1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:26,484 --> 00:00:29,154 I think, ultimately, kids' music is amazing 4 00:00:29,237 --> 00:00:30,822 because kids are amazing 5 00:00:30,905 --> 00:00:33,742 and adults who choose to make music for children 6 00:00:33,825 --> 00:00:35,035 are basically signing up 7 00:00:35,118 --> 00:00:37,328 for a lifetime of being underestimated. 8 00:00:37,412 --> 00:00:39,748 So I wanted to elevate those artists 9 00:00:39,831 --> 00:00:42,917 and show them for the kind of heroic figures 10 00:00:43,001 --> 00:00:44,210 that I think they are. 11 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:57,223 I don't know how successful we're going to be with the... 12 00:00:57,307 --> 00:00:58,349 Sit in the chair, 13 00:00:58,433 --> 00:01:00,518 sit in the chair, sit in the chair. 14 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:01,644 Oh my gosh. 15 00:01:03,980 --> 00:01:05,774 Yeah, and show your guitar. 16 00:01:05,857 --> 00:01:07,067 There we go. 17 00:01:07,776 --> 00:01:09,778 -There we are. -Mommy. 18 00:01:09,861 --> 00:01:11,905 -You got to sit in your chair. -You got to sit in the chair. 19 00:01:11,988 --> 00:01:13,448 Gotta sit in the chair-- No. 20 00:01:14,032 --> 00:01:15,116 This is a challenge. 21 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:22,123 -Oh man! -Whoa! There he goes. 22 00:01:22,832 --> 00:01:24,584 Ready? Good job. 23 00:01:26,002 --> 00:01:27,212 Hold it up. 24 00:01:31,007 --> 00:01:34,260 You do have a boo-boo? Let me see. 25 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:39,641 I wonder what most people think about 26 00:01:39,724 --> 00:01:41,101 when you say "kids' music." 27 00:01:41,726 --> 00:01:44,062 Whenever I would tell people that's what I did, 28 00:01:44,145 --> 00:01:45,438 there was a little look of like... 29 00:01:46,314 --> 00:01:47,982 "Oh, that's sweet. 30 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:51,069 Do you ever want to, like, write music for adults?" 31 00:01:51,152 --> 00:01:52,946 Like it wasn't real music. 32 00:01:54,656 --> 00:01:57,575 I've been on stages in front of 50,000 people, 33 00:01:57,659 --> 00:02:00,745 but to be in an auditorium with some five-year-olds... 34 00:02:01,538 --> 00:02:03,373 I get intimidated by those little kids. 35 00:02:12,298 --> 00:02:15,135 Kids are the greatest drunk people ever. 36 00:02:15,718 --> 00:02:17,470 I was like, this would never happen 37 00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:19,222 at the punkest punk rock show. 38 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:20,890 If this was a Fugazi show, 39 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:23,017 that kid would be given $5 and told to leave. 40 00:02:25,603 --> 00:02:28,648 Some of it has become commonplace for me, 41 00:02:28,731 --> 00:02:30,150 where it seems crazy 42 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:32,277 for someone who sees it the first time. 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,779 I'm just getting dizzy. My body is hurting. 44 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:36,948 But the children have to love it, it's gotta be good music. 45 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:49,419 Usually people who come up to us 46 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:52,380 when we walk around the streets, it's just so positive. 47 00:02:52,463 --> 00:02:54,591 But sometimes we get parents 48 00:02:54,674 --> 00:02:56,092 who've been driven mad by our music 49 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:59,429 and want to physically harm us. 50 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:02,015 A dad came up to me and said, 51 00:03:02,098 --> 00:03:03,725 "I don't know whether to strangle you 52 00:03:03,808 --> 00:03:05,351 or pat you on the back." 53 00:03:19,741 --> 00:03:21,826 He likes to listen to a lot of music. 54 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:23,411 Right now it's a song called 55 00:03:23,494 --> 00:03:25,079 "I Love My Little Garbage Truck." 56 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:27,749 We listened to it about 77 times the other day. 57 00:03:27,832 --> 00:03:30,084 I love my little garbage truck 58 00:03:30,168 --> 00:03:32,045 I don't know the rest of the words 59 00:03:32,128 --> 00:03:34,214 Welcome to our learning farm 60 00:03:34,297 --> 00:03:36,424 We have lots to show you 61 00:03:36,507 --> 00:03:37,884 It makes me want to blow my brains out. 62 00:03:37,967 --> 00:03:40,094 Helicopter, helicopter 63 00:03:40,178 --> 00:03:41,846 And it's on and on. 64 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:44,265 Helicopter, helicopter 65 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:45,600 Yeah. He knows that song. 66 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:49,229 The truth is we listen to more songs 67 00:03:49,312 --> 00:03:53,107 that he and I want to listen to than kids' songs. 68 00:03:53,191 --> 00:03:55,610 'Cause I find a lot of kids' songs, 69 00:03:55,693 --> 00:03:57,779 like, terribly repetitive and annoying. 70 00:03:57,862 --> 00:03:59,656 It's always going to be children's music 71 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:01,908 as opposed to, you know, "actual music." 72 00:04:01,991 --> 00:04:04,244 It'd be nice for him to listen to things 73 00:04:04,327 --> 00:04:08,373 that weren't kind of dumbed, you know, dumbed down at all. 74 00:04:08,456 --> 00:04:12,085 There could be music for seven-year-olds, six-year-olds 75 00:04:12,168 --> 00:04:15,588 where there is a little bit more complex emotional... 76 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:18,258 kind of content. 77 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:22,220 Is he somewhere near here? Do you see him? 78 00:04:22,303 --> 00:04:24,639 -You can move if you need to. -Okay. 79 00:04:24,722 --> 00:04:26,766 -You can take a minute-- -I'm sure it's fine. 80 00:04:26,849 --> 00:04:28,059 I'm sure he's fine. 81 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:32,647 I'm sure he's fine. 82 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:35,775 Welcome to the Wiggly Big Day Out Tour, 83 00:04:35,858 --> 00:04:38,111 proudly presented by Huggies. 84 00:04:38,194 --> 00:04:41,072 Be sure to pick up a sample of Huggies Nappy Pants 85 00:04:41,155 --> 00:04:42,198 on your way out. 86 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:47,704 And now, please welcome to the stage... 87 00:04:47,787 --> 00:04:51,291 The Wiggles! 88 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:54,460 Hello, we're The Wiggles 89 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:56,462 We'd like to say hello to you 90 00:04:56,546 --> 00:04:59,882 Hello, we're The Wiggles We'd like to say hello 91 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:03,970 Hello, we're The Wiggles We'd like to say hello to you 92 00:05:04,053 --> 00:05:06,931 Hello, we're The Wiggles We'd like to say hello 93 00:05:07,765 --> 00:05:09,517 We're called The Wiggles because 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,644 probably the first movement children do 95 00:05:11,728 --> 00:05:13,271 is just a little wiggle. 96 00:05:16,274 --> 00:05:18,318 I can't really dance 97 00:05:18,401 --> 00:05:22,697 and so it's good because what I can do is wiggle 98 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:25,533 and children are pretty well learning that as well. 99 00:05:25,616 --> 00:05:27,368 So I'm probably at their level. 100 00:05:31,205 --> 00:05:35,084 Simon, can you use your voice to make that low tone? 101 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:37,003 I'll sing my notes so low that they... 102 00:05:37,086 --> 00:05:38,963 And I think with the name The Wiggles, 103 00:05:39,797 --> 00:05:42,800 no one's going to confuse us with Metallica 104 00:05:42,884 --> 00:05:44,594 or a, you know, a heavy metal group. 105 00:05:44,677 --> 00:05:46,679 Everybody clap 106 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:50,099 Everybody clap your hands to the Skeleton Scat 107 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:53,311 Clap, clap, clap, clap Everybody clap 108 00:05:53,394 --> 00:05:55,855 -Your turn. -Clap, clap, clap, clap 109 00:05:55,938 --> 00:05:57,190 Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap 110 00:06:01,277 --> 00:06:02,403 Hey! 111 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,492 This one's in? 112 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:11,537 Okay, set and action. 113 00:06:13,164 --> 00:06:16,000 Now it's time to count from one to 20 114 00:06:16,084 --> 00:06:17,085 One 115 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:19,420 Two 116 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:24,050 I've been wiggling now for 33 years. 117 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:26,344 I'm creative director. 118 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:29,472 To this day, I produced all the music that we've ever done. 119 00:06:29,555 --> 00:06:33,601 It gets harder when it gets to 17, 18. That's when-- Yeah. 120 00:06:33,684 --> 00:06:36,479 I know I'm a little bit eccentric only because, 121 00:06:36,562 --> 00:06:39,399 not that I know that, just people tell me all the time. 122 00:06:39,482 --> 00:06:41,234 Seventeen 123 00:06:41,317 --> 00:06:44,570 But one thing we've always done is know our audience. 124 00:06:45,530 --> 00:06:49,200 We've done over 10,000 shows over the years. 125 00:06:49,283 --> 00:06:52,036 Sometimes three, even four shows a day. 126 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,538 ...count from one to 20 127 00:06:53,621 --> 00:06:57,583 On Spotify, we've had four billion streams. 128 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:00,378 Are you ready to wiggle? 129 00:07:00,461 --> 00:07:01,879 I'm ready to wiggle. 130 00:07:01,963 --> 00:07:04,048 Is everyone ready to wiggle? Yeah! 131 00:07:04,132 --> 00:07:06,217 Yeah, let's get ready to go on a dancing ride. 132 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:09,720 When The Wiggles started, 133 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:12,348 I actually had the idea to do it at university. 134 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:15,935 I was learning to be a teacher, 135 00:07:16,018 --> 00:07:18,438 doing early childhood studies. 136 00:07:18,521 --> 00:07:23,693 The original Wiggles: Murray, Greg, myself, and Jeff, 137 00:07:23,776 --> 00:07:28,364 we had an idea to make an album of early childhood music 138 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:32,160 just to put into practice what we'd learnt at university. 139 00:07:34,328 --> 00:07:35,955 At the time, I was in a rock band in Australia 140 00:07:36,038 --> 00:07:37,582 called the Cockroaches. 141 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:39,876 Yeah, it's on again just like it was... 142 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:43,004 And we took some of the Cockroaches' songs 143 00:07:43,087 --> 00:07:45,214 and made them Wiggles songs. 144 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:48,009 Eating all Mum's roses there in the moonlight 145 00:07:48,092 --> 00:07:50,470 It was Dorothy the Dinosaur 146 00:07:51,387 --> 00:07:52,889 I knew that if Mum saw her... 147 00:07:52,972 --> 00:07:56,184 At the start, people were really suspicious of us. 148 00:07:57,477 --> 00:07:59,770 Four men singing children's songs? 149 00:07:59,854 --> 00:08:03,065 You know, are these guys in it for the right reasons? 150 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:07,069 One of the reasons The Wiggles do this all the time 151 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:10,781 is so in photographs you know where our hands are. 152 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:12,492 Three, two, one. Cheese! 153 00:08:12,575 --> 00:08:14,327 But we made this cassette 154 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:18,706 and we took it to Australian Broadcasting Commission, 155 00:08:18,789 --> 00:08:20,958 and one of the ladies said to us, 156 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:24,962 "You'll be lucky to sell 100 copies, but we'll put it out." 157 00:08:25,046 --> 00:08:29,091 And that first album I think sold 300,000 copies. 158 00:08:31,886 --> 00:08:33,554 Everybody loosen up. 159 00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:37,141 As adults, we can understand the hype of the Rolling Stones, 160 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:39,018 but it's hard to comprehend toddlers 161 00:08:39,101 --> 00:08:41,479 going berserk over a rock band. 162 00:08:41,562 --> 00:08:43,606 You have to see it to believe it. 163 00:08:43,689 --> 00:08:44,857 I've got my ticket. 164 00:08:45,441 --> 00:08:47,485 The Wiggles have been the group of choice 165 00:08:47,568 --> 00:08:48,819 for preschoolers. 166 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:51,322 The equivalent of U2, if you will, 167 00:08:51,405 --> 00:08:53,074 for the diaper-clad. 168 00:08:53,157 --> 00:08:55,034 For some reason it clicked. 169 00:08:55,117 --> 00:08:57,245 We were on Disney Channel four times a day. 170 00:08:58,037 --> 00:09:00,414 We did the Macy's Parade in New York. 171 00:09:01,832 --> 00:09:03,584 We played Madison Square Garden. 172 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:07,463 Robert De Niro and Jerry Seinfeld came, 173 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:09,840 all amazing celebrities. 174 00:09:10,716 --> 00:09:12,468 Well, they've all got kids, so... 175 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:14,178 And we never got a big head about it. 176 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:15,596 Wiggles rule! 177 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:17,390 Yeah! 178 00:09:17,473 --> 00:09:19,475 Bye, Wiggles! 179 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,227 The Wiggles have been named 180 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:24,897 Australian entertainment's top earners for 2005. 181 00:09:24,981 --> 00:09:27,858 With gross earnings of $50 million, 182 00:09:27,942 --> 00:09:29,902 they again topped the BRW list, 183 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:32,488 which includes the rock band AC/DC. 184 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:33,739 Pretty good! 185 00:09:34,865 --> 00:09:36,200 Wow! 186 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:38,869 Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle! Wiggle! 187 00:09:39,662 --> 00:09:41,163 Oh no! 188 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:53,009 -What is my name? -Laurie. 189 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:55,595 -And I have a what? -A pig. 190 00:09:55,678 --> 00:09:57,179 On my what? 191 00:09:57,263 --> 00:09:58,973 -Head. -Yeah. 192 00:09:59,056 --> 00:10:03,019 Laurie has a pig on her head 193 00:10:03,853 --> 00:10:07,690 Laurie has a pig on her head 194 00:10:08,357 --> 00:10:13,237 Laurie has a pig on her head 195 00:10:13,321 --> 00:10:17,033 And she keeps it there all day 196 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:19,410 Dad has an elephant on his head 197 00:10:19,493 --> 00:10:21,746 My dad has an elephant on his head 198 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:24,373 My dad has an elephant on his head 199 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:26,000 And he keeps it there all day 200 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,002 Okay, let me see your elephant trunk. 201 00:10:28,878 --> 00:10:30,338 And flamingos. 202 00:10:30,421 --> 00:10:31,422 Oh my goodness. 203 00:10:35,676 --> 00:10:38,638 Now clap your hands Clap, clap your hands 204 00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:40,723 Clap your hands Clap, clap your hands 205 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:43,601 Clap your hands Clap, clap your hands 206 00:10:43,684 --> 00:10:48,648 Clap, clap, clap away 207 00:10:50,775 --> 00:10:52,234 Yay! 208 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:55,363 So this is a thing my entire career, 209 00:10:55,446 --> 00:10:57,323 "children's musician." 210 00:10:57,406 --> 00:10:59,825 Sounds like a child musician, right? 211 00:10:59,909 --> 00:11:01,243 Child music-- Right? 212 00:11:01,327 --> 00:11:02,995 Am I the children or am I... 213 00:11:03,079 --> 00:11:04,914 Anyway, children musician-- 214 00:11:04,997 --> 00:11:07,208 I guess children's musician sort of works. 215 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:11,504 When I was starting, 216 00:11:11,587 --> 00:11:14,632 I was a music teacher for preschoolers 217 00:11:14,715 --> 00:11:16,884 and I was terrible the first year. 218 00:11:16,967 --> 00:11:20,846 Like, I would spend my days with these kids trying to sing a song 219 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,515 and the three-year-olds wouldn't listen to me. 220 00:11:22,598 --> 00:11:24,850 They would just run around the room and I was like, I can't, 221 00:11:24,934 --> 00:11:27,395 I don't know what to do. I can't control them. 222 00:11:28,437 --> 00:11:30,481 I cried every night. 223 00:11:30,564 --> 00:11:32,983 I just remember feeling like, I don't know 224 00:11:33,067 --> 00:11:34,568 how to talk to these kids. 225 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:37,029 They speak a language that I don't understand. 226 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:40,825 And I would try to figure out, what is missing? 227 00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:43,869 What do I need to help bring them back in? 228 00:11:45,162 --> 00:11:47,456 I just finally looked around at the kids and said, 229 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:50,334 "Look, what do you guys want to sing about?" 230 00:11:50,418 --> 00:11:54,588 And one child said, "Dinosaurs!" 231 00:11:54,672 --> 00:11:57,842 And then everybody else in the room just erupted. 232 00:11:57,925 --> 00:11:59,468 They were like, "Yeah, dinosaurs! 233 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:01,303 That's what we want. We want a dinosaur song!" 234 00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:04,849 So I was like, "Everyone, follow me. 235 00:12:04,932 --> 00:12:06,892 Start marching." 236 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:10,146 And I was like, minor chords, marching sound... 237 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,605 let's be dinosaurs! 238 00:12:11,689 --> 00:12:15,568 We are the dinosaurs Marching, marching 239 00:12:15,651 --> 00:12:19,238 We are the dinosaurs What do you think of that? 240 00:12:19,321 --> 00:12:20,823 And then they started clawing at each other 241 00:12:20,906 --> 00:12:22,491 and I was like, "Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. 242 00:12:22,575 --> 00:12:24,577 Uh..." 243 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:26,704 Stop and eat your food We stop and eat our food 244 00:12:26,787 --> 00:12:27,913 When we're in the mood 245 00:12:27,997 --> 00:12:29,957 Stop and eat our food 246 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,001 When we're in the mood 247 00:12:32,084 --> 00:12:35,337 Stop and eat our food on the ground 248 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:36,547 And I was like, "Now we're gonna roar. 249 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:38,549 Everybody roar!" 250 00:12:38,632 --> 00:12:43,763 -Roar -Roar! 251 00:12:43,846 --> 00:12:46,182 I remember when I wrote it, I was like, 252 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:47,850 "Is this a dumb song?" 253 00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:53,647 But I made my first album 254 00:12:53,731 --> 00:12:56,442 and I sold them all in like three months. 255 00:12:56,525 --> 00:12:59,445 We are the dinosaurs Marching... 256 00:12:59,528 --> 00:13:02,072 I got a call from somebody at The Today Show 257 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:04,492 and she was like, "I want you on this show. 258 00:13:04,575 --> 00:13:07,077 I think you should play in the Plaza." 259 00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:09,121 People were just freaking out. 260 00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:11,207 We are the dinosaurs 261 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:12,917 We make the earth flat 262 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,794 We make the earth flat 263 00:13:15,377 --> 00:13:17,421 One of the first things I learned was that 264 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:19,799 if I did not have something interactive, 265 00:13:19,882 --> 00:13:23,677 which is often movement, in a song that I was doing, 266 00:13:23,761 --> 00:13:26,180 I could not keep the kids engaged. 267 00:13:27,681 --> 00:13:30,518 Oh, Victor Vito and Freddie Vasco 268 00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:33,646 Asking them to move their bodies, 269 00:13:33,729 --> 00:13:36,065 to make a rhythm, to clap. 270 00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:38,526 Some of the youngest kids, 271 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:41,570 they've been moving longer than they've been talking. 272 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:43,656 -Hey, Victor -Hey, Victor 273 00:13:43,739 --> 00:13:45,199 -Hey, Freddie -Hey, Freddie 274 00:13:45,282 --> 00:13:47,034 -Let's eat some -Let's eat some 275 00:13:47,117 --> 00:13:48,536 -Spaghetti -Spaghetti 276 00:13:48,619 --> 00:13:50,538 I will do a ska rhythm, an upbeat, 277 00:13:50,621 --> 00:13:52,832 and even a five-month-old baby 278 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:54,416 who is, like, just barely sitting 279 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,709 will start to bounce. 280 00:13:55,793 --> 00:13:57,461 -Hey, Freddie -Hey, Freddie 281 00:13:57,545 --> 00:13:59,129 -Let's eat some -Let's eat some 282 00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:00,923 -Spaghetti -Spaghetti 283 00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,425 They just respond so naturally that way. 284 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:05,177 I almost feel like as adults sometimes 285 00:14:05,261 --> 00:14:07,179 we learn to shut some of that down. 286 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:09,682 Thank you so much! 287 00:14:09,765 --> 00:14:13,477 It's not often that adults allow themselves to be playful. 288 00:14:15,354 --> 00:14:16,939 Unless they get drunk enough 289 00:14:17,022 --> 00:14:20,359 that they would actually get up and sing and move 290 00:14:20,442 --> 00:14:21,610 and get into it. 291 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:31,161 Like, I remembered the "Macarena." 292 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:33,205 I was like, okay, somebody wrote a kids' song 293 00:14:33,289 --> 00:14:35,499 and it became like a global sensation. 294 00:14:38,419 --> 00:14:41,422 Part of the reason I love writing songs for kids 295 00:14:41,505 --> 00:14:43,382 is that sense of freedom, 296 00:14:43,465 --> 00:14:46,093 just to be able to allow yourself 297 00:14:46,176 --> 00:14:49,471 to enjoy what's going on and play. 298 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,432 But I do get asked a lot, 299 00:14:51,515 --> 00:14:54,393 "Do you ever want to do an album for adults? 300 00:14:54,476 --> 00:14:56,520 Do you ever want to write music for adults?" 301 00:14:56,604 --> 00:14:59,315 I do feel like that is something 302 00:14:59,398 --> 00:15:01,734 that comes to people's minds right away, 303 00:15:01,817 --> 00:15:04,862 that doing music for kids wouldn't be... 304 00:15:05,946 --> 00:15:07,281 anyone's first choice. 305 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:10,993 Uh-huh. 306 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:12,369 Let's move this sucker. 307 00:15:13,329 --> 00:15:15,331 Hey, there's termites in that stump. 308 00:15:16,373 --> 00:15:17,499 Wait a minute. 309 00:15:19,376 --> 00:15:20,878 Oh, that's good. 310 00:15:22,588 --> 00:15:23,756 Yeah, get in there. 311 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:26,342 All right, here, come on, dead termite, get over there. 312 00:15:27,259 --> 00:15:28,552 Okay. 313 00:15:29,136 --> 00:15:31,972 I feel the warmth of my little fire-fire 314 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:36,143 As the rain comes down outside-side 315 00:15:36,226 --> 00:15:38,646 But I see blue sky-sky 316 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:41,607 Coming out through the rain tonight 317 00:15:41,690 --> 00:15:46,111 Little dead termite, do you see the blue sky-sky? 318 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:48,864 No, he doesn't because he died 319 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:51,075 That's okay There'll be more 320 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:54,119 Someone's got to eat this little log 321 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:56,330 But the fire's singing now. 322 00:15:56,413 --> 00:15:57,581 Take it, fire. 323 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:01,752 Yeah, drum solo. 324 00:16:03,379 --> 00:16:05,339 So jazzy, so jazzy. 325 00:16:05,422 --> 00:16:09,426 Little jazzy fire-fire Taking the drum solo 326 00:16:09,510 --> 00:16:12,304 When I sing, everything comes alive 327 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:16,475 We go, hey We go, hey 328 00:16:16,558 --> 00:16:19,436 We go, hey We go, hey 329 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,772 Hey, little termite 330 00:16:21,855 --> 00:16:25,359 Little termite next to the fire-fire 331 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:27,319 Ohh, ooh 332 00:16:27,403 --> 00:16:31,615 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 333 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:34,785 Thank you. 334 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:38,122 And cut. 335 00:16:38,706 --> 00:16:39,957 And speed. 336 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,251 -Sound. -Speeding. 337 00:16:43,752 --> 00:16:45,671 Every time they'd say that, "Speed," 338 00:16:45,754 --> 00:16:48,841 I'd be like, "No, thank you. I don't want any speed." 339 00:16:50,926 --> 00:16:53,095 Moving to the country 340 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:55,222 I'm gonna eat a lot of peaches 341 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:56,515 I'm moving... 342 00:16:56,598 --> 00:16:58,767 So I was in a rock and roll band 343 00:16:58,851 --> 00:17:01,020 called The Presidents of the United States of America. 344 00:17:02,146 --> 00:17:03,731 In the early days of The Presidents, 345 00:17:03,814 --> 00:17:07,651 I think our strength was that we were three dorks 346 00:17:07,735 --> 00:17:09,028 trying to rock. 347 00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:10,863 I'm gonna eat a lot of peaches 348 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:13,657 But we played one show 349 00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:16,035 in Seattle at a club that we played at all the time, 350 00:17:16,118 --> 00:17:17,870 but it happened to be a weekend where a lot of people 351 00:17:17,953 --> 00:17:19,580 from the industry were in town, 352 00:17:19,663 --> 00:17:23,292 and the next day we had seven major label offers. 353 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,378 We just blew up and we got to be a big actual rock band. 354 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:28,797 Sun-soakin' bulges in the shade 355 00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:30,424 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome 356 00:17:30,507 --> 00:17:33,177 The Presidents of the United States of America. 357 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:37,222 It was like a crazy experience. 358 00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:40,059 We got on MTV and got on the radio in the '90s 359 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:41,518 when all that still mattered. 360 00:17:41,602 --> 00:17:43,228 Totally motionless except for her heart 361 00:17:43,312 --> 00:17:45,814 It was wonderful to be validated, 362 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:47,524 but it was also really scary 363 00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:49,401 because there was so much all of a sudden 364 00:17:49,485 --> 00:17:51,111 that was out of our control. 365 00:17:51,195 --> 00:17:53,739 She's lump, she's lump She's in my head 366 00:17:53,822 --> 00:17:57,451 I imagined that I was getting let into a secret room. 367 00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,286 Like the velvet rope had been pulled aside, 368 00:17:59,369 --> 00:18:01,830 the room opened, and I thought when I go in that room, 369 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:05,751 all my problems will go away, I'll be rich and famous. 370 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:07,753 And then I realized there's another rope and a door 371 00:18:07,836 --> 00:18:09,338 and another rope and a door. 372 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:11,840 And I knew that I didn't have what it took 373 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:15,219 to continue to prove myself over and over again 374 00:18:15,302 --> 00:18:16,637 and I really wanted out. 375 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,765 I tried to convince the band to break up at that point, 376 00:18:19,848 --> 00:18:23,143 but if you're riding a pony that's pooping gold bricks, 377 00:18:23,227 --> 00:18:24,394 you hold on for dear life 378 00:18:24,478 --> 00:18:26,188 and ride that pony into the sunset. 379 00:18:26,271 --> 00:18:27,648 So that's what we did. 380 00:18:30,442 --> 00:18:33,529 Is this lump outta my head? 381 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:36,240 But during that ride, 382 00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:38,909 I had this internal voice saying, 383 00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:40,911 "Congratulations on everything you've achieved, 384 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:42,913 but you are not done. 385 00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:44,873 This is not your final stop." 386 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,291 And I was like, really? 387 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:48,710 Okay, I guess I'll keep exploring. 388 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,087 And so I did on the side. 389 00:18:50,170 --> 00:18:52,256 I'm looking for songs now 390 00:18:52,339 --> 00:18:55,050 There's a little fern with a leaf 391 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:57,719 I wonder if they've been properly introduced 392 00:18:58,846 --> 00:19:01,598 And eventually those side projects 393 00:19:01,682 --> 00:19:04,852 got smaller and more acoustic and more mellow. 394 00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:06,854 I still didn't know who it was for. 395 00:19:08,063 --> 00:19:10,440 And then I met Kate, who is my wife. 396 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:16,446 Her artwork really spoke to me and I thought, 397 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:18,699 whatever planet this artwork is coming from, 398 00:19:18,782 --> 00:19:21,034 it's coming from the same planet as this music 399 00:19:21,118 --> 00:19:23,328 I can't quite get a handle on. 400 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:25,706 She sits at her table all day 401 00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:28,417 And she's basically printing money 402 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:30,627 Don't tell the IRS 403 00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:33,672 -I pay my taxes. -Oh yeah, that's true. 404 00:19:33,755 --> 00:19:36,466 So I made a few songs inspired by her artwork 405 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:41,013 and literally a cartoon light bulb went off over my head 406 00:19:41,096 --> 00:19:44,474 and I realized it's music for children, music for kids, 407 00:19:44,558 --> 00:19:46,476 music for families. However you want to say it. 408 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,271 It was this incredible, like, ah, yes, 409 00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:51,648 that's what this voice was all about. 410 00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:55,152 And I was so relieved to have found it 411 00:19:55,235 --> 00:19:58,822 that it kind of unleashed this volcano of songs. 412 00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:00,908 I just started writing and I couldn't stop. 413 00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:03,035 Oh so cute, oh so grumpy 414 00:20:03,118 --> 00:20:05,078 The sea is smooth and your shell is bumpy 415 00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:07,247 I feel good, but you feel funky 416 00:20:07,331 --> 00:20:09,082 Hey, hey, pretty crabby 417 00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:11,293 Butterfly driving a truck 418 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:14,838 So Caspar Babypants started around 2008, 419 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:18,175 and then by 2010, I was starting to do shows. 420 00:20:18,258 --> 00:20:20,260 Sis-a-wish, a-sis-a-wish 421 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,430 Biboo bah 422 00:20:23,513 --> 00:20:26,016 I never thought of myself as competing 423 00:20:26,099 --> 00:20:28,310 with the big dogs like Disney. 424 00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:30,479 I always felt like it was a strength 425 00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:33,774 to be the little guy that people would stumble on 426 00:20:33,857 --> 00:20:36,735 and go, "Oh wow, we found this." 427 00:20:36,818 --> 00:20:38,612 Under the sun and over a log 428 00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:42,157 Biboo bah Watch those frogs 429 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:44,117 Jump really big Watch them leap 430 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:45,827 When I started performing for kids, 431 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,746 I kind of realized that The Presidents 432 00:20:47,829 --> 00:20:51,667 had that innocent core already in place. 433 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:55,045 We'd kind of covered that core with innuendo, 434 00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:58,548 but Caspar was all about taking that outer shell off 435 00:20:58,632 --> 00:21:00,968 and just revealing the innocent core. 436 00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:04,137 I just want noodles and butter 437 00:21:04,221 --> 00:21:06,223 Noodles and butter 438 00:21:06,306 --> 00:21:08,058 You are my favorite treat 439 00:21:08,141 --> 00:21:11,186 That was such a relief because the first thing I felt was, 440 00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,230 I don't have to be cool. 441 00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:15,482 I'm free of the culture of cool. 442 00:21:15,565 --> 00:21:17,484 I don't have to be judged. 443 00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:20,445 And I looked at that as a gift because from that spot, 444 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:23,323 being creative is easy. 445 00:21:25,158 --> 00:21:26,785 Noodles and butter 446 00:21:26,868 --> 00:21:28,912 There is no other 447 00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:31,039 Nothing else that I want to eat 448 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,346 Thank you guys so much for coming. 449 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:49,308 I think we're ready to start. Are we ready to start? 450 00:21:53,186 --> 00:21:54,354 My name is Johnny Only. 451 00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:55,939 Everybody say, "Hi, Johnny Only." 452 00:21:56,023 --> 00:21:58,608 -Hi, Johnny Only! -Very nice. 453 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:02,946 Hello, how are you? 454 00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:05,866 Glad you came today 455 00:22:05,949 --> 00:22:08,994 So nice to see you 456 00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:11,872 Let's say hello in Spanish 457 00:22:11,955 --> 00:22:14,875 -Everybody say hola -Hola! 458 00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:17,586 -Everybody say hola -Hola! 459 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:20,756 -Everybody say hola -Hola! 460 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,050 -Everybody say hola -Hola! 461 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:25,469 If you want to say hello in Spanish 462 00:22:25,552 --> 00:22:27,304 Just say hola 463 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:31,767 Do you mind if I take a picture straight ahead? 464 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:34,269 -Awesome. Awesome. -We look amazing back here. 465 00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:42,486 It's actually, it's quite an interesting perspective for me. 466 00:22:42,569 --> 00:22:44,529 Let me see. I want to catch the microphone in front. 467 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,657 You got to hop 468 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,118 You got to hop 469 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:52,079 I've always been local to this area. 470 00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:53,580 You got to hop 471 00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:58,543 Mostly I've had one location with weekly shows. 472 00:22:58,627 --> 00:23:02,339 How about if we dance with our entire body? 473 00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:04,800 Yeah, there we go. 474 00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:07,427 I mean, yes, I suppose 475 00:23:08,678 --> 00:23:14,184 the bigger stars do this in arenas and auditoriums, 476 00:23:14,267 --> 00:23:17,062 but for me to have the kids sitting 477 00:23:17,145 --> 00:23:20,065 right on the ground and the carpet in front of me, 478 00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:21,858 you know, I love that. 479 00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:23,360 Here we go. Whoa. 480 00:23:23,443 --> 00:23:25,112 Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. 481 00:23:25,195 --> 00:23:27,823 Just getting a little feedback from my... 482 00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:29,449 And you can pet the animals. 483 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:30,659 There's a petting zoo. 484 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,244 You can pet the animals before the show. 485 00:23:32,327 --> 00:23:33,912 You can pet the animals after the show. 486 00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:36,790 This little piggy went to market 487 00:23:36,873 --> 00:23:39,000 This little piggy stayed home 488 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,211 This little piggy had roast beef 489 00:23:41,294 --> 00:23:43,296 This little piggy had none 490 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:44,423 This little piggy said 491 00:23:44,506 --> 00:23:47,092 "I wanna be a superstar like you" 492 00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:50,303 I started out in a garage band, 493 00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:52,347 wanted to be a rock star at 18, 494 00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:55,142 you know, and of course I was not. 495 00:23:57,477 --> 00:24:00,397 And I was self-employed as a DJ. 496 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,274 I was a karaoke host. 497 00:24:02,357 --> 00:24:04,109 I was a country line dance instructor. 498 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:06,319 So trying to keep all of that going, you know. 499 00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:14,119 And I did not really have appreciation 500 00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:17,038 for children's music until I had my own children. 501 00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:23,920 One of the ways for me to interact with them 502 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:26,506 was to play the guitar and sing. 503 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:31,470 If you want to wave You can wave with your hat 504 00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:36,141 And if you want to hide You can hide behind your hat 505 00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:40,145 Immediately like, light bulb, I got it, right? 506 00:24:40,228 --> 00:24:41,897 Why don't we do some kids' music? 507 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:43,982 My name is Johnny Only. 508 00:24:44,065 --> 00:24:45,734 Everybody say, "Hi, Johnny Only." 509 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:47,319 Hi, Johnny Only. 510 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:52,657 A ring around the rosie, pocket full of posies 511 00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:56,369 And I did every children's song I could think of. 512 00:24:57,537 --> 00:25:00,040 I performed at the Jewish community center. 513 00:25:00,123 --> 00:25:02,876 I was at one of the churches for a while. 514 00:25:02,959 --> 00:25:05,837 We would have 100, 200 people. 515 00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:11,051 The kids used to line up to give me a hug at the end of the show. 516 00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:14,429 It was just wonderful. 517 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,806 Johnny, you were fantastic! 518 00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:19,309 Oh, well, thank you so much and thank you for coming today. 519 00:25:19,392 --> 00:25:22,521 Give yourself a round of applause! 520 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,899 After a while, I was getting bored with the same songs 521 00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:28,485 and I was like, "I need some other material." 522 00:25:28,568 --> 00:25:31,071 So I started writing my own original pieces 523 00:25:31,154 --> 00:25:32,781 that I could bring to the table. 524 00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:42,958 -Hats off for your neighbor -Hats off 525 00:25:43,041 --> 00:25:44,417 Hats on for your friend 526 00:25:44,501 --> 00:25:46,503 So the hat song is still being written 527 00:25:46,586 --> 00:25:48,964 even though we've been performing it for several weeks. 528 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:52,634 And it also needs work on the verse here. 529 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,344 -Mikayla, are you somewhere? -Mm-hmm. 530 00:25:54,427 --> 00:25:56,137 So you're going to say, "What's this hat?" 531 00:25:56,221 --> 00:25:57,764 Then I'm going to say, "It's a cowboy hat." 532 00:25:57,847 --> 00:26:00,600 -Yeah. -Here we go. 533 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,063 What's this hat? 534 00:26:05,772 --> 00:26:07,607 So it'd be like this, would be like... 535 00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:10,402 As country as can be 536 00:26:10,485 --> 00:26:11,903 What's this hat? 537 00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:13,863 Perfect. So then I would answer... 538 00:26:18,493 --> 00:26:20,245 a cowboy hat! 539 00:26:23,081 --> 00:26:25,375 -What's this hat? -A cowboy hat! 540 00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:28,420 This hat is right for me. 541 00:26:28,503 --> 00:26:30,922 -Hats off for your neighbor -Hats off 542 00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:33,049 -Hats on for your friend -Hats on 543 00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:36,428 I think writing music that resonates with children 544 00:26:36,511 --> 00:26:39,514 is a very specialized art form in itself. 545 00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:47,147 Yeah, that's better. Okay, up a little bit. 546 00:26:47,230 --> 00:26:49,149 Okay, here we go. Boom. 547 00:27:11,546 --> 00:27:12,881 Hmm... 548 00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:16,134 Misconceptions is that it's easy! 549 00:27:19,721 --> 00:27:22,098 Is that what you do is easy. 550 00:27:22,182 --> 00:27:23,558 That is not true. 551 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,393 It's not until you start doing it 552 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:27,896 that you realize, no, this is not easy at all. 553 00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:32,984 Kids are very honest. 554 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:36,112 They're either going to be into it or not. 555 00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:39,324 De-de-de-do, that was wrong, but it sounded cool. 556 00:27:39,407 --> 00:27:42,243 Especially the eight- and nine-year-olds. 557 00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:45,080 They're looking at everything with this sort of, 558 00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:46,915 "Hmm... Impress me. 559 00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:49,042 What are you going to do that's different?" 560 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:52,754 I get intimidated by those little kids. 561 00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:58,802 I am very new in the field of kids' music, for sure, 562 00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:02,514 but I got into making music a long time ago actually. 563 00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:06,267 I rap, I sing, I produce, I write. 564 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,853 Got to get it low, if you go to the right 565 00:28:08,937 --> 00:28:12,691 Then you got to take it low Take it low, take it low 566 00:28:12,774 --> 00:28:15,652 Let me see you take it low Oh, take it low 567 00:28:15,735 --> 00:28:18,029 And yes, I toured with Beyoncé as her bass player 568 00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:20,198 and co-musical director for five years. 569 00:28:21,157 --> 00:28:23,451 'Cause everything I see is you 570 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:25,787 And I don't want no substitute 571 00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:32,794 And then since then, I've been doing the Divinity Roxx 572 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:35,714 rocked out, hip-hop, jazz fusion 573 00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:36,798 that was still positive, 574 00:28:36,881 --> 00:28:39,634 but it had this little angst in it. 575 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:40,969 You know? 576 00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:42,554 I'm amongst all these legends 577 00:28:42,637 --> 00:28:44,556 Birds of a feather, well, they flock together 578 00:28:44,639 --> 00:28:46,266 I am the last of the wildest of children 579 00:28:46,349 --> 00:28:47,976 Everybody, everybody round here... 580 00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:51,646 I did that for a while and then a friend of mine called 581 00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:54,023 and said, "I'm working with Scholastic 582 00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:55,817 on this pre-K program. 583 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,361 Would you like to write some music for it?" 584 00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:00,447 And I said yes. 585 00:29:02,323 --> 00:29:07,203 Hey, kids, I want you to clap your hands to the beat. 586 00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:10,206 Yeah. You got it. You got it. 587 00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:11,708 If you're happy and you're healthy 588 00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:13,918 Clap your hands, clap your hands 589 00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:17,589 If you're feeling really strong do a dance, do a dance 590 00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:21,217 Now I'm thinking, okay, I just said yes to this project. 591 00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:22,802 Maybe I should make an album. 592 00:29:23,511 --> 00:29:25,722 I mean, I'm an artist. Why not? 593 00:29:25,805 --> 00:29:28,349 I'm happy and I'm healthy and I know it, I know it 594 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:31,102 And I think historically when you think about kids' music, 595 00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:34,981 if you're not PBS or Disney, 596 00:29:35,064 --> 00:29:37,484 then you're making folk music 597 00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,444 and that's what children are listening to. 598 00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:43,156 My mama gave me a nickel to buy a pickle 599 00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:47,243 A little nickel pickle It cost a quarter 600 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:54,793 Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea 601 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,296 You are my sunshine... 602 00:29:58,379 --> 00:30:02,634 I know a lot of parents are looking for music 603 00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:05,094 that's going to resonate with their kids, 604 00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:07,472 but if the only music out there is folk music, 605 00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:08,848 that might not resonate with them. 606 00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:10,266 And I think that's probably why 607 00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,311 people were excited to see me jump into this space 608 00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:15,855 because we do need to see more diverse voices. 609 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:18,024 I grew up during a time in hip-hop music 610 00:30:18,107 --> 00:30:20,443 where hip-hop was for everybody. 611 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:21,986 It was edutainment. 612 00:30:24,781 --> 00:30:27,700 I think about A Tribe Called Quest. 613 00:30:27,784 --> 00:30:29,869 -Can I kick it? -Yes you can 614 00:30:29,953 --> 00:30:32,121 -Can I kick it? -Yes you can 615 00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:33,331 Well, I'm gone 616 00:30:33,414 --> 00:30:35,208 I think about Busta Rhymes 617 00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:37,627 and Leaders of the New School. 618 00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:39,671 Chickens in the midst Everything is right 619 00:30:39,754 --> 00:30:41,381 Oh my gosh, oh my gosh 620 00:30:41,464 --> 00:30:42,882 Oh my gosh, I'm aging myself. 621 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:45,593 I think about... Slick Rick. 622 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,428 Once upon a time not long ago... 623 00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:49,722 All of that music was so positive 624 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:51,975 and inspiring and fun. 625 00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:54,227 By anotha lil' boy and this is what he said 626 00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:57,021 So I started working on the kids' album 627 00:30:57,105 --> 00:30:58,523 called Ready Set Go. 628 00:30:58,606 --> 00:31:01,734 It's one of those songs that gets in your head for sure. 629 00:31:02,318 --> 00:31:05,363 Ready, set, go It's a brand new day 630 00:31:05,446 --> 00:31:07,282 And I'm feeling good You're feeling good 631 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:08,867 Let's get-get on our way 632 00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:11,619 And I also received a Grammy nomination 633 00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:13,454 for my kids' album. 634 00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:15,415 I was really surprised. 635 00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:22,714 Divinity Roxx! Divinity Roxx Kids! 636 00:31:24,757 --> 00:31:26,885 Most of my learning experiences are live 637 00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:29,470 and I'm still in the process of navigating 638 00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:31,431 what works and what doesn't. 639 00:31:31,514 --> 00:31:33,850 You ready? I'm ready Yeah 640 00:31:33,933 --> 00:31:35,435 I don't have a formula. 641 00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,772 My whole identity as an artist and performer 642 00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:43,026 has been connected to me playing the bass, 643 00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:45,695 but I don't think the kids care. 644 00:31:45,778 --> 00:31:47,447 They do not care. 645 00:31:48,364 --> 00:31:49,949 The parents care, you know, when we take-- 646 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:51,993 I'll take a little bass solo and the parents are like, 647 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:55,079 "Oh yeah, yeah, bass face!" You know? 648 00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:57,874 But the kids are like, "Okay. Can we get back to the music?" 649 00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:01,669 Ready, set, go Ready, ready, set, go 650 00:32:02,837 --> 00:32:04,923 I'm still learning in this genre. 651 00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:06,925 I feel like I don't know anything. 652 00:32:07,008 --> 00:32:09,052 Thank you all so much! 653 00:32:09,135 --> 00:32:11,846 Enjoy Kidzapalooza. 654 00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:18,519 A, B, C, D, E, F 655 00:32:19,479 --> 00:32:20,480 G. 656 00:32:20,563 --> 00:32:21,773 H, I, J, K 657 00:32:21,856 --> 00:32:23,274 L, M, N, O 658 00:32:24,609 --> 00:32:25,818 P. 659 00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:30,782 Q, R, S 660 00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:32,492 T, U 661 00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:33,576 V. 662 00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:36,287 W, X, Y and Z 663 00:32:36,371 --> 00:32:37,872 I do not know the rest. 664 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:42,502 Now I know my hamburgers 665 00:32:49,342 --> 00:32:51,052 I think as a non-parent, you're told 666 00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:52,971 that children's music is terrible 667 00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:54,764 and you should avoid it. 668 00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:56,474 You know, until you have children, 669 00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:58,393 until you have to listen to it, you know? 670 00:32:58,476 --> 00:33:03,147 It's thought of as the thing with which you pacify, 671 00:33:03,231 --> 00:33:05,817 with which you amuse a child 672 00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:08,319 that has not developed the taste, 673 00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:10,488 you know, to get into the real shit yet. 674 00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:11,572 Excuse me. 675 00:33:16,619 --> 00:33:20,456 As the parent of a 13-, a 10-, and a three-year-old, 676 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:23,334 what I wanted to avoid was being the cool dad. 677 00:33:24,335 --> 00:33:27,839 You know, where I was like, "Son, this is Captain Beefheart 678 00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:30,758 and you need to really..." I didn't want to be that dad. 679 00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:34,512 But as a rock critic, as a professional snob, 680 00:33:34,595 --> 00:33:38,975 I was always interested in both the art and the science 681 00:33:39,058 --> 00:33:41,644 of what makes a good children's song. 682 00:33:43,896 --> 00:33:45,857 Toddlers love a good hook. 683 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:49,444 Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O 684 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:52,155 A three to five to maybe seven second 685 00:33:52,238 --> 00:33:54,323 repeated melodic phrase. 686 00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:56,242 They wouldn't articulate it that way, 687 00:33:56,325 --> 00:33:57,952 but they know it when they hear it. 688 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,121 Yes, sir, three bags full 689 00:34:02,206 --> 00:34:04,250 The itsy bitsy spider 690 00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:06,044 It's a good hook. 691 00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:09,213 The wheels on the bus go round and round 692 00:34:09,297 --> 00:34:11,424 I think the first song my daughter loved 693 00:34:11,507 --> 00:34:13,926 was "The Wheels on the Bus." 694 00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:17,096 This song was precision engineered to delight children. 695 00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:20,808 The wheels on the bus go round and round 696 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:22,226 Round and round 697 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:23,394 Round and round 698 00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:26,355 There's this bouncy, very repetitive melody, 699 00:34:26,439 --> 00:34:28,858 but it's always introducing new characters. 700 00:34:28,941 --> 00:34:31,527 There's just always something new happening. 701 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:33,362 -Up and down -Because kids 702 00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:36,949 want to be comforted, but they also want to be surprised. 703 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:39,827 And I wondered, you know, listening to her sing this song, 704 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:41,662 just watching her absorb this song, 705 00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:43,539 is she picturing the bus? 706 00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:45,625 Does she think she's on the bus 707 00:34:45,708 --> 00:34:47,835 or does she just like the noise and the movement 708 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,837 and just the sense of fun? 709 00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:52,465 -All through the town -The town 710 00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:54,050 I have to go potty. 711 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:56,427 Oh, I hear you, buddy. 712 00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:59,138 You better do that. You better do that. 713 00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:00,556 It's a good time to do it. 714 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,183 Parents come up to me and say, 715 00:35:02,266 --> 00:35:04,060 "It must be nice making music for kids 716 00:35:04,143 --> 00:35:05,394 'cause you can just say anything 717 00:35:05,478 --> 00:35:07,522 and they're just happy to hear sound." 718 00:35:07,605 --> 00:35:09,065 Well, that's totally not the case. 719 00:35:09,148 --> 00:35:10,650 In fact, it's the opposite. 720 00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:14,237 I feel like in a, you know, alternative rock band, 721 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,240 you could read the phone book with the right snarl, 722 00:35:17,323 --> 00:35:19,742 run it through some distortion, and you're set. 723 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:21,661 You never have to write another lyric. 724 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:27,583 Oh, I think it's time for "Fruit Salad Yummy Yummy"! 725 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:30,378 Let's do the actions together, everyone. 726 00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:32,797 "Fruit Salad Yummy Yummy." 727 00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:36,676 Fruit Salad Yummy Yummy 728 00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:39,428 Children are different thinkers to adults. 729 00:35:39,512 --> 00:35:44,058 I would say 90% of adult songs are about falling in love. 730 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:45,518 Children are not into... 731 00:35:45,601 --> 00:35:47,186 It's not what they're about at the time. 732 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,313 You've got to actually speak to them 733 00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:51,107 in the language they understand. 734 00:35:52,525 --> 00:35:54,652 Children love singing about food. 735 00:35:54,735 --> 00:35:58,156 We can't do a show without doing "Fruit Salad Yummy Yummy." 736 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,826 Yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy fruit salad 737 00:36:01,909 --> 00:36:03,452 That's exciting to them. 738 00:36:03,536 --> 00:36:06,956 They can learn about every part of their life through music. 739 00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,334 -Hot potato, hot potato -Hot potato, hot potato 740 00:36:10,418 --> 00:36:13,212 -Hot potato, hot potato -Hot potato, hot potato 741 00:36:13,296 --> 00:36:14,714 Hot potato, hot potato 742 00:36:14,797 --> 00:36:16,799 And one thing I've always believed 743 00:36:16,883 --> 00:36:20,595 is that music for children should be married with actions. 744 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:22,805 Cold spaghetti Cold spaghetti 745 00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:24,515 Cold spaghetti Cold spaghetti 746 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,559 So all the great Wiggles songs, 747 00:36:26,642 --> 00:36:28,144 "Hot Potato, Hot Potato," 748 00:36:28,895 --> 00:36:31,814 they've all got these really simple actions for children. 749 00:36:31,898 --> 00:36:33,149 Totally interactive. 750 00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:34,442 Whoo, wiggy wiggy wiggy 751 00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:37,320 Whoo, wiggy wiggy wiggy 752 00:36:37,403 --> 00:36:40,823 And also, children love repetition. 753 00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:42,116 They love what's coming next. 754 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,534 They love knowing what's coming next. 755 00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:48,039 My daughter Lucia loved a song called "Sing with Me," 756 00:36:48,122 --> 00:36:53,002 and she listened to it 43 times in a row, we counted, 757 00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:56,005 which is very hard for Mum and Dad 758 00:36:56,088 --> 00:36:58,049 listening to it over and over, 759 00:36:58,799 --> 00:37:02,845 but it can also give the children a sense of self-esteem 760 00:37:02,929 --> 00:37:05,514 where they get confident, "I can do this." 761 00:37:05,598 --> 00:37:07,433 And that's what you want children to do, 762 00:37:07,516 --> 00:37:09,143 feel good about themselves. 763 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:12,355 Whoo, wiggy wiggy wiggy Whoo, wiggy wiggy wiggy 764 00:37:14,023 --> 00:37:15,858 Whoo! 765 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,614 When I started performing for children, 766 00:37:21,697 --> 00:37:24,533 I very quickly realized that there's a reason why 767 00:37:24,617 --> 00:37:26,869 "If You're Happy And You Know It, Clap Your Hands" 768 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:27,954 is such a hit. 769 00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:30,873 If you're happy and you know it 770 00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:31,999 Clap your hands 771 00:37:32,917 --> 00:37:34,919 If you're happy and you know it 772 00:37:35,002 --> 00:37:36,295 Clap your hands 773 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:39,298 I think that's the greatest children's song ever written. 774 00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:41,092 Well, if you're happy and you know it 775 00:37:41,175 --> 00:37:42,718 Clap your hands 776 00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:44,720 If you're happy and you know it 777 00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:46,138 Clap your hands 778 00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:48,140 If you're happy and you know it 779 00:37:48,224 --> 00:37:49,850 And you really want to show it 780 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:52,061 If you're happy and you know it 781 00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:53,229 Clap your hands 782 00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:54,772 I think mostly we think, 783 00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:56,274 "Oh, 'Happy And You Know It, Clap Your Hands.' 784 00:37:56,357 --> 00:37:57,525 I could do that song." 785 00:37:57,608 --> 00:37:59,777 Indeed, the guitar part is not difficult. 786 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:01,070 I will tell you that. 787 00:38:01,153 --> 00:38:02,738 If you're happy and you know it 788 00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:04,782 But we've heard it millions of times 789 00:38:04,865 --> 00:38:07,910 and yet it doesn't make people say, "I hate that song." 790 00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:10,246 No, we're not going to listen to it alone on our iPods, 791 00:38:10,329 --> 00:38:12,248 but if we're with a group of kids, 792 00:38:12,331 --> 00:38:16,168 let's sing "Happy And You Know It, Clap Your Hands." 793 00:38:16,252 --> 00:38:18,087 I love that song. 794 00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:22,758 Woo! 795 00:38:22,842 --> 00:38:25,594 One of the things that's unbelievably important 796 00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:30,266 is that, for kids, there is that sense of "my music." 797 00:38:30,349 --> 00:38:32,810 -Bubble, bubble, bubble -Pop! 798 00:38:32,893 --> 00:38:34,186 Yeah. 799 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:35,646 It's not adult music, 800 00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:37,606 it's something different, 801 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:39,483 which gives them the sense of respect 802 00:38:39,567 --> 00:38:41,944 that an adult would say, "Here. 803 00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:43,988 You can do this. This is yours." 804 00:38:44,071 --> 00:38:45,281 -Pop! -Woo! 805 00:38:45,364 --> 00:38:48,284 There is an aspect to this genre 806 00:38:48,367 --> 00:38:50,202 where it's ownership for the kids. 807 00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:52,121 Like it might be their first experience 808 00:38:52,204 --> 00:38:54,582 with making aesthetic choices. 809 00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:56,417 Bubble, bubble, bubble 810 00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:57,960 -Pop! -Good job! 811 00:38:58,044 --> 00:38:59,670 Give yourselves a round of applesauce. 812 00:39:01,505 --> 00:39:02,631 Applesauce! 813 00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:07,928 The whole dynamic of kids' music being seen as less than 814 00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:09,513 is a mystery to me. 815 00:39:09,597 --> 00:39:11,724 I don't understand why. 816 00:39:11,807 --> 00:39:14,935 I guess when I first started performing for families, 817 00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:17,146 I looked around at the genre, 818 00:39:17,229 --> 00:39:19,231 there was a lot of educational stuff 819 00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:20,900 and "here's how to do this." 820 00:39:20,983 --> 00:39:23,611 Hey, you ready to get those teeth clean? 821 00:39:23,694 --> 00:39:26,072 Here's a song you can brush along to. 822 00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:27,365 Let's go. 823 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:29,575 But for myself, I definitely knew 824 00:39:29,658 --> 00:39:31,744 I didn't want to be instructional at all. 825 00:39:31,827 --> 00:39:34,246 I've never written a song about brushing your teeth. 826 00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:36,415 I've never written a song about the alphabet. 827 00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:38,376 I've never written a song about how to count. 828 00:39:38,459 --> 00:39:39,752 One hammer, one hammer 829 00:39:39,835 --> 00:39:41,837 Johnny works with one hammer 830 00:39:41,921 --> 00:39:43,047 Then he works with two 831 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:45,758 I'm like, that's for parents and school. 832 00:39:45,841 --> 00:39:47,259 You learn things at school. 833 00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:50,471 When you put on a Caspar album, you fly away. 834 00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:55,101 Jellyfish Jones has got no bones 835 00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:58,896 But if he did, where would he go? 836 00:39:58,979 --> 00:40:02,858 He would tap dance live on a TV show, get in... 837 00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:05,236 Writing for children is this beautiful opportunity 838 00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:07,279 to have all the rules of gravity 839 00:40:07,363 --> 00:40:09,573 and time and space removed. 840 00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:11,617 You can have a jellyfish that rides a bicycle, 841 00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:14,036 you can have a bear that changes color, 842 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,288 and you can have a flea that has dogs. 843 00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:17,832 My flea has dogs 844 00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:19,417 He don't know it's wrong 845 00:40:20,459 --> 00:40:23,295 Oh, my flea has dogs 846 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:26,257 I love the opportunity to be weird and surreal 847 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:28,717 and not tell kids to use their imagination, 848 00:40:28,801 --> 00:40:30,594 but I wanted to use my imagination. 849 00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:34,849 I am a little bear So cute with fuzzy hair 850 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,852 Once upon a time, I was so nice 851 00:40:39,311 --> 00:40:41,605 When I made these Caspar Babypants records, 852 00:40:41,689 --> 00:40:43,899 I would sit back and listen to the song I'm working on 853 00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:47,194 and I would think of a family in a car, 854 00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:51,407 and they're all hot and hungry and tired and mad 855 00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:52,908 and they all have to pee. 856 00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:55,077 I can still see them if I close my eyes. 857 00:40:55,161 --> 00:40:56,620 They're just all so mad. 858 00:40:57,663 --> 00:41:00,040 And then I would press play on the song 859 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:01,459 and listen to it and think, 860 00:41:01,542 --> 00:41:03,294 is this song going to help that family? 861 00:41:03,377 --> 00:41:07,548 This little soul of mine is nine ninety-nine 862 00:41:07,631 --> 00:41:10,342 And if you've got some thread then you can fix me 863 00:41:10,426 --> 00:41:12,636 And I started to piece together what was doing the job 864 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,181 that I wanted done, which is to really bring 865 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:17,099 the whole family into the same room. 866 00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:19,101 I get so many emails from people saying, 867 00:41:19,185 --> 00:41:20,728 "I dropped the kids off at school 868 00:41:20,811 --> 00:41:23,105 and didn't realize until I got home that I just kept listening 869 00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:25,065 to Caspar Babypants the whole way." 870 00:41:25,858 --> 00:41:28,277 That is so gratifying. I love that. 871 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,114 This little soul of mine is nine ninety-nine 872 00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:33,657 And if you've got some thread 873 00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:35,242 I think there's a beautiful opportunity 874 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:39,371 to have children's experience with media and music 875 00:41:39,455 --> 00:41:43,250 and movies be rich and imaginative, 876 00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:47,671 not kind of shoddy and trashy and simplistic. 877 00:41:47,755 --> 00:41:48,839 "Baby Shark." 878 00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:55,137 Tell me about your shirt. What's your shirt say? 879 00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:57,848 Baby Shark. 880 00:41:57,932 --> 00:42:00,142 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 881 00:42:00,226 --> 00:42:01,852 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 882 00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:03,687 Baby shark 883 00:42:03,771 --> 00:42:05,022 Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo 884 00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:08,901 I mean, there's so many things about the Baby Shark phenomenon 885 00:42:08,984 --> 00:42:12,988 that are totally modern-day things. 886 00:42:13,072 --> 00:42:16,283 The idea that two-year-olds could have like... 887 00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:19,620 such a strong preference for a song, they can make it 888 00:42:19,703 --> 00:42:22,414 the most watched YouTube video of all time, for example. 889 00:42:22,498 --> 00:42:24,875 I mean, that is very weird. 890 00:42:24,959 --> 00:42:29,713 Mommy doo, doo Mommy doo, doo 891 00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:31,340 One of my daughters came home 892 00:42:31,423 --> 00:42:33,342 and she was singing part of some song 893 00:42:33,425 --> 00:42:35,094 I hadn't heard about a shark. 894 00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:39,181 And then I was like, "Oh, this is like a thing." 895 00:42:40,099 --> 00:42:42,393 Alexa, put "Baby Shark" on. 896 00:42:43,727 --> 00:42:46,355 Here's "Baby Shark" by Pinkfong. 897 00:42:59,618 --> 00:43:02,580 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 898 00:43:02,663 --> 00:43:05,249 Get ready for "Baby Shark" to be in your head all day. 899 00:43:05,958 --> 00:43:07,459 Believe it or not, it's become 900 00:43:07,543 --> 00:43:09,920 the most watched video ever on YouTube 901 00:43:10,004 --> 00:43:12,381 and we've just played it now, adding to the total. 902 00:43:12,464 --> 00:43:14,174 You know why it gets in our heads? 903 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,385 I'm so curious about what it is about this song, 904 00:43:16,468 --> 00:43:17,761 but something happens. 905 00:43:17,845 --> 00:43:20,014 Doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo Daddy Shark 906 00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:21,557 "Baby Shark" does a lot of things 907 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,436 that a lot of kids' music standards do, right? 908 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,522 It repeats itself with some variation. 909 00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:33,027 There's hand motions, which are cute and fun to do, 910 00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:34,820 but it actually sounds a little different. 911 00:43:34,903 --> 00:43:36,530 Maybe it sounds like what your parents listen to. 912 00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:39,658 There is like this patina of pop-ness to it 913 00:43:39,742 --> 00:43:41,869 that I think does distinguish it 914 00:43:41,952 --> 00:43:44,496 from what we think of as kids' music. 915 00:43:45,372 --> 00:43:48,375 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 916 00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:49,501 Baby shark, doo, doo... 917 00:43:49,585 --> 00:43:53,255 For much of my career, I wanted to be somebody 918 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:55,132 who can write a really great song. 919 00:43:55,215 --> 00:43:59,178 And I would say that the peak of my creativity 920 00:43:59,261 --> 00:44:03,349 was when I started performing my "Baby Shark" song. 921 00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:08,020 Johnny Only's original "Baby Shark." 922 00:44:08,103 --> 00:44:10,939 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 923 00:44:11,023 --> 00:44:12,983 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 924 00:44:13,067 --> 00:44:15,402 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 925 00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:18,614 Originally, that was a song that was a camp song 926 00:44:18,697 --> 00:44:21,659 for middle school and high school campers. 927 00:44:21,742 --> 00:44:25,412 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 928 00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:27,164 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 929 00:44:27,247 --> 00:44:28,874 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 930 00:44:28,957 --> 00:44:30,000 Baby shark 931 00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:32,961 It started back in the '80s and '90s. 932 00:44:33,045 --> 00:44:34,338 Doo, doo, doo-doo 933 00:44:34,421 --> 00:44:35,923 Mama shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo 934 00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:37,299 They did it without music. 935 00:44:37,383 --> 00:44:39,051 They did it in the chanting tradition. 936 00:44:39,134 --> 00:44:41,095 Shark attack, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo! 937 00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:43,222 Shark attack, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo! 938 00:44:43,305 --> 00:44:47,101 And it was used as a fun activity for the kids 939 00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:49,311 to improvise their new version 940 00:44:49,395 --> 00:44:51,689 that was even bloodier and gorier than the next. 941 00:44:51,772 --> 00:44:54,483 Lost a leg, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 942 00:44:54,566 --> 00:44:57,778 You might have, you know, lost an arm, doo, doo, doo, doo, 943 00:44:57,861 --> 00:45:00,823 lost a leg, so now you're like hopping on one leg, you know? 944 00:45:00,906 --> 00:45:03,450 Lost a head, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 945 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:04,660 Lost a head, doo, doo... 946 00:45:04,743 --> 00:45:05,911 I just loved it. 947 00:45:05,994 --> 00:45:08,038 It was in the public domain, 948 00:45:08,122 --> 00:45:12,418 so I adapted it for my toddler audiences. 949 00:45:12,501 --> 00:45:14,128 For me, it was very important 950 00:45:14,211 --> 00:45:16,588 that it's the non-dismemberment version. 951 00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:19,174 Like no blood and guts and gore, right? 952 00:45:19,258 --> 00:45:21,427 Daddy shark, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo-doo 953 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:23,470 And we made this video around the pool. 954 00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:27,099 It was just so much fun. All the kids got involved. 955 00:45:27,182 --> 00:45:31,061 I published on YouTube in 2011. 956 00:45:31,145 --> 00:45:33,564 It was very well received, 957 00:45:33,647 --> 00:45:39,361 and then I believe 2016, Pinkfong published theirs. 958 00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:43,615 Pinkfong! 959 00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:47,786 Pinkfong is a South Korean educational company 960 00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:51,415 and so they have a lot of videos online 961 00:45:51,498 --> 00:45:54,084 that are sort of in this very familiar YouTube style. 962 00:45:54,168 --> 00:45:56,378 Did you ever see my tail 963 00:45:56,462 --> 00:46:00,174 Very bright, very simply animated, 964 00:46:00,257 --> 00:46:01,800 with these children's songs, 965 00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:03,260 some of which you would recognize. 966 00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:06,346 The crocodile's teeth are stinky, stinky, stinky 967 00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:07,931 And the whole business model of those 968 00:46:08,015 --> 00:46:10,851 is to just generate a lot of content 969 00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:13,687 so more people watch them so you get paid from the ads. 970 00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:15,063 That's how it works. 971 00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:19,276 So if you need songs at that volume, 972 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:21,820 you can't pay for those songs. 973 00:46:21,904 --> 00:46:24,364 So you want songs that are in the public domain 974 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:28,327 or don't belong to anybody that everybody can use. 975 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:33,332 But if you do something to that song that is unique, 976 00:46:33,415 --> 00:46:36,251 like if you do a particular instrumentation, 977 00:46:36,335 --> 00:46:38,879 a particular structure, give it a particular melody, 978 00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:42,633 you can copyright that, the arrangement, even-- 979 00:46:42,716 --> 00:46:45,427 So you don't own the rights to the song wholly, 980 00:46:45,511 --> 00:46:48,764 but if someone is to do the exact version of the song 981 00:46:48,847 --> 00:46:52,559 that you did, you have legal recourse. 982 00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:55,229 I started with some water sound, 983 00:46:55,312 --> 00:46:57,022 they started with some water sound. 984 00:46:57,105 --> 00:46:58,816 And then it was in the key of G. 985 00:46:58,899 --> 00:47:01,193 Baby shark, doo, doo doo, doo, doo-doo 986 00:47:01,276 --> 00:47:03,779 Pinkfong's is in the key of G as well. 987 00:47:03,862 --> 00:47:05,697 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 988 00:47:05,781 --> 00:47:07,866 Baby shark 989 00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:12,454 My tempo is 116-ish beats per minute. 990 00:47:12,538 --> 00:47:16,208 Their tempo is 116-ish beats per minute. 991 00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:20,504 And then I added in a low voice when they say Daddy Shark. 992 00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:22,047 Daddy shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 993 00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:24,049 They did that exact same thing as well. 994 00:47:25,926 --> 00:47:29,388 They didn't speed it up to the exact same tempo as I did, 995 00:47:30,681 --> 00:47:31,974 but it was close 996 00:47:32,057 --> 00:47:34,184 and then they slowed it down again just like I did it. 997 00:47:34,268 --> 00:47:36,770 You know, it was just amazing. 998 00:47:37,646 --> 00:47:40,524 Same melody, the same chord structure, 999 00:47:40,607 --> 00:47:42,276 and of course the Pinkfong version 1000 00:47:42,359 --> 00:47:45,445 had the exact same lyrical content 1001 00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:47,614 and the same target audience. 1002 00:47:48,365 --> 00:47:50,117 It was so similar. 1003 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,662 Baby shark, doo, doo Baby Shark! 1004 00:47:56,999 --> 00:48:03,589 I remember the worst part was all of a sudden... 1005 00:48:03,672 --> 00:48:06,758 Alexa, play "Baby Shark." 1006 00:48:06,842 --> 00:48:10,178 ...Pinkfong was the "Baby Shark" standard. 1007 00:48:10,262 --> 00:48:12,180 Here's a sample of "Baby Shark" 1008 00:48:12,264 --> 00:48:14,558 by Johnny Only on Amazon Music. 1009 00:48:19,438 --> 00:48:21,315 Tell Alexa. 1010 00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:26,236 Alexa, play "Baby Shark." 1011 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,196 "Baby Shark" by Pinkfong. 1012 00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:34,870 It is the annoyingly catchy ditty 1013 00:48:34,953 --> 00:48:36,496 that became a global phenomenon 1014 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:40,208 and there seems no stopping the "Baby Shark" juggernaut. 1015 00:48:40,292 --> 00:48:41,919 It was everywhere. 1016 00:48:42,002 --> 00:48:43,629 I mean, it was on The Late Late Late Show 1017 00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:46,757 and there's a billion hits on Pinkfong's YouTube channel. 1018 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,092 It was a viral TikTok thing. 1019 00:48:49,176 --> 00:48:51,470 The shark song has quickly grown 1020 00:48:51,553 --> 00:48:53,055 into a viral dance challenge 1021 00:48:53,138 --> 00:48:56,099 that people all over the world are taking part in. 1022 00:48:57,434 --> 00:48:59,519 "Baby Shark" has been a bonanza 1023 00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,272 that has spawned a slew of spin-off parodies. 1024 00:49:02,356 --> 00:49:03,857 -Baby shark! -Doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo. 1025 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:05,150 Mommy shark. 1026 00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:07,653 Even finding its way into street protests. 1027 00:49:08,445 --> 00:49:10,447 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 1028 00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:11,865 Baby shark 1029 00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:14,910 I mean, this song's been played, I'm sure, a billion times. 1030 00:49:14,993 --> 00:49:17,037 More than 1.6 billion YouTube views. 1031 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,789 More than 2 billion views. 1032 00:49:18,872 --> 00:49:20,290 4.5 billion views. 1033 00:49:20,374 --> 00:49:21,458 Seven billion views. 1034 00:49:21,541 --> 00:49:23,543 Fifteen billion views, 1035 00:49:23,627 --> 00:49:26,213 making it the most viewed YouTube video of all time. 1036 00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:31,510 It's a known torture device that's used by CIA and others 1037 00:49:31,593 --> 00:49:33,845 to play it on a loop for hours on end. 1038 00:49:33,929 --> 00:49:36,598 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo 1039 00:49:36,682 --> 00:49:39,101 Baby shark, doo, doo, doo-doo, doo-doo, baby shark 1040 00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:44,648 Baby shark 1041 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:53,073 It was upsetting. It was very upsetting. 1042 00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:54,491 It was very upsetting. 1043 00:49:54,574 --> 00:49:56,743 And I stopped performing it 1044 00:49:56,827 --> 00:49:58,620 because it was just too upsetting. 1045 00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:05,002 So, Ryan, if content is king, 1046 00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:08,797 then what can we expect from Pinkfong? 1047 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,550 Can we expect Baby Shark the film, 1048 00:50:11,633 --> 00:50:13,468 Baby Shark the musical, 1049 00:50:13,552 --> 00:50:16,138 Baby Shark the TV program, cartoon? 1050 00:50:16,221 --> 00:50:17,931 What's in the content pipeline? 1051 00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:20,726 Our goal is to maybe make some theme park 1052 00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:23,020 or maybe some Baby Shark cruise. 1053 00:50:25,605 --> 00:50:27,566 A little piece of me when "Baby Shark" blew up 1054 00:50:27,649 --> 00:50:30,318 that was like, I'm right here. 1055 00:50:30,402 --> 00:50:33,238 Like could I please blow up maybe a little bit 1056 00:50:33,321 --> 00:50:35,198 because I'm trying to do something high quality? 1057 00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:39,953 But I wonder if the channels are not open 1058 00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:42,581 to music like mine. 1059 00:50:42,664 --> 00:50:44,458 I wonder if the channels are greased 1060 00:50:44,541 --> 00:50:50,088 by simplistic, splashy technicolor, 1061 00:50:50,172 --> 00:50:53,759 and the more seemingly flimsy forms of expression 1062 00:50:53,842 --> 00:50:55,302 hit more people. 1063 00:51:03,602 --> 00:51:06,521 I just felt a little bit angry and vengeful. 1064 00:51:09,024 --> 00:51:11,943 Yes, there is a lawsuit. Been going on for some time. 1065 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,237 American children's music performer Johnny Only 1066 00:51:14,321 --> 00:51:16,990 filed a complaint with the Seoul Central District Court 1067 00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:18,658 in October 2018. 1068 00:51:18,742 --> 00:51:21,203 Pinkfong dismisses Only's claim saying 1069 00:51:21,286 --> 00:51:24,247 "Baby Shark" is based on a traditional sing-along chant, 1070 00:51:24,331 --> 00:51:26,583 which has passed to public domain. 1071 00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:29,961 I-I do, in no way, shape, or form, 1072 00:51:30,045 --> 00:51:33,757 claim ownership to the public domain version. 1073 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,135 My adaptation is covered by copyright. 1074 00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:38,386 Daddy shark, doo, doo... 1075 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:40,222 Who owns "Baby Shark"? 1076 00:51:40,305 --> 00:51:42,265 There's the answer we wish it might be, 1077 00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:45,352 which is that we all own "Baby Shark," right? 1078 00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:49,106 Pinkfong behaves as if they own "Baby Shark" 1079 00:51:49,189 --> 00:51:50,816 and are as litigious and protective 1080 00:51:50,899 --> 00:51:54,945 as any company would be over a piece of intellectual property 1081 00:51:55,028 --> 00:51:58,573 that is worth millions if not billions of dollars. 1082 00:51:58,657 --> 00:52:02,119 Whether or not they really own it, 1083 00:52:02,202 --> 00:52:06,581 given that they didn't write it, they didn't create it, 1084 00:52:06,665 --> 00:52:08,458 they did popularize it, 1085 00:52:08,542 --> 00:52:12,254 they may not even have created this exact version, 1086 00:52:12,337 --> 00:52:15,674 I think makes what they're doing seem morally, 1087 00:52:15,757 --> 00:52:18,218 if not legally suspect. 1088 00:52:18,301 --> 00:52:21,179 Of the traumas that have happened to me as an adult, 1089 00:52:22,139 --> 00:52:24,808 this is right up there 1090 00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:28,395 with divorce and child custody fight. 1091 00:52:29,104 --> 00:52:32,524 And your friends say, "Oh, just write another song." 1092 00:52:33,108 --> 00:52:35,277 And it's not what happens. 1093 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,195 What happens is you're like, 1094 00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:39,823 "I gave my best and it's gone now." 1095 00:52:39,906 --> 00:52:42,868 Hi, I'm Johnny Only with Silent Disco Rental, 1096 00:52:42,951 --> 00:52:44,870 and I just want to explain that when you rent 1097 00:52:44,953 --> 00:52:46,329 your headphones from us... 1098 00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:48,039 I stopped writing songs altogether 1099 00:52:48,123 --> 00:52:50,834 and I was like, "You know what? I quit." 1100 00:52:50,917 --> 00:52:53,003 I'm just going to rent out headphones from my basement 1101 00:52:53,086 --> 00:52:54,713 for the Silent Disco business. 1102 00:52:54,796 --> 00:52:57,465 Silent-disco-rental.com. 1103 00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:01,011 I decided I'm done with children's music. 1104 00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:08,935 All right, just one of those... 1105 00:53:10,937 --> 00:53:12,022 Or just... 1106 00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:18,195 Here we go. 1107 00:53:18,278 --> 00:53:20,113 One, two, three, four. 1108 00:53:22,073 --> 00:53:24,910 So good to see you It's great to see you 1109 00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:28,121 How are you today? 1110 00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:31,082 The Wiggles, we're all in it for the right reasons. 1111 00:53:31,166 --> 00:53:32,918 They all want to do the best job they can. 1112 00:53:33,001 --> 00:53:35,212 They love the audience. 1113 00:53:36,588 --> 00:53:39,507 Yeah, it's good, man. Well done. You got Tsehay dancing, man. 1114 00:53:39,591 --> 00:53:41,676 That's... Yeah, you know that's the mark. 1115 00:53:42,427 --> 00:53:43,720 Yay! 1116 00:53:43,803 --> 00:53:45,597 It's sad, but these days 1117 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,265 there's a lot of stuff on YouTube 1118 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:50,727 which I wouldn't want to listen to as an adult. 1119 00:53:50,810 --> 00:53:54,773 Teddy bear, teddy bear Turn around 1120 00:53:54,856 --> 00:53:56,900 There's no thought involved in it. 1121 00:53:56,983 --> 00:53:58,443 Touch the ground 1122 00:53:58,526 --> 00:54:02,155 Somehow it's generated by a computer or something. 1123 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,951 Teddy bear, teddy bear Off to school 1124 00:54:08,411 --> 00:54:12,207 There's just a dystopian feel to AI. You know? 1125 00:54:12,290 --> 00:54:16,002 I'm trying to keep an open mind about it, but it freaks me out. 1126 00:54:16,086 --> 00:54:18,463 The human versus the robot 1127 00:54:18,546 --> 00:54:21,633 is just a very strict binary in my head 1128 00:54:21,716 --> 00:54:23,843 and it's just I don't need robots 1129 00:54:23,927 --> 00:54:26,888 writing my kids' songs, man. 1130 00:54:26,972 --> 00:54:29,474 Like, please, please don't do that. 1131 00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:33,353 I know there's tons of people out there 1132 00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:34,854 actively making money 1133 00:54:34,938 --> 00:54:37,274 creating YouTube channels for kids 1134 00:54:37,357 --> 00:54:39,693 and they're using an AI generator. 1135 00:54:39,776 --> 00:54:42,779 Ask AI for an animal list, 1136 00:54:42,862 --> 00:54:45,282 then take your animal list, pick the ones you like. 1137 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:48,535 It will just write lyrics for you. 1138 00:54:51,746 --> 00:54:53,748 Stick them in another AI. 1139 00:54:54,666 --> 00:54:56,918 If you tell it a genre of music, 1140 00:54:57,002 --> 00:54:59,462 it will just create a song. 1141 00:54:59,546 --> 00:55:02,507 ...land so far away where the dinos like to play 1142 00:55:02,590 --> 00:55:06,052 There's a T-Rex with a roar and a Triceratops galore 1143 00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:08,138 And then if you don't like it, you just click on another one 1144 00:55:08,221 --> 00:55:09,723 and it'll write the music in a different way. 1145 00:55:10,265 --> 00:55:12,976 And the Brachiosaurus eats the leaves 1146 00:55:13,059 --> 00:55:14,769 That's what it loves the most 1147 00:55:15,312 --> 00:55:17,647 The Velociraptor's quick and smart 1148 00:55:17,731 --> 00:55:19,357 Always on the go 1149 00:55:19,899 --> 00:55:22,027 Dinosaurs, dinosaurs Big and small 1150 00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:24,404 Let's all go and see them Come and play with us all! 1151 00:55:25,905 --> 00:55:28,033 Those channels, there probably are a lot of them 1152 00:55:28,116 --> 00:55:29,117 already out there. 1153 00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:32,871 It's just a matter of time before somebody learns 1154 00:55:32,954 --> 00:55:34,414 how to do that very well. 1155 00:55:34,497 --> 00:55:36,916 Peter pickle-eater 1156 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,795 Like, of course it's bad. Of course it's bad. 1157 00:55:40,879 --> 00:55:44,132 Daddy finger, daddy finger Where are you? 1158 00:55:44,215 --> 00:55:49,262 The AI content is like the most addictive baseline slop 1159 00:55:50,388 --> 00:55:55,018 made by some robot in some back room in some place 1160 00:55:55,101 --> 00:55:58,021 that's just trying to churn out a thousand YouTube videos 1161 00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:00,148 to make someone money. 1162 00:56:00,231 --> 00:56:04,736 Like that's just so antithetical to what we want to be doing 1163 00:56:04,819 --> 00:56:06,780 with our two-year-olds and like... 1164 00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:09,574 I think I feel for people who make kids' music 1165 00:56:09,657 --> 00:56:12,827 'cause I think it's like, I just imagine you go to a party 1166 00:56:12,911 --> 00:56:15,705 and it's like, "Oh, you couldn't make it as a grown-up musician." 1167 00:56:15,789 --> 00:56:17,624 But I don't know. They hang out with our kids 1168 00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,919 and like sing them nice songs and have real... 1169 00:56:21,002 --> 00:56:23,004 They're actually attending to them 1170 00:56:23,088 --> 00:56:25,632 and what they like and what they don't like 1171 00:56:25,715 --> 00:56:28,301 and trying to hold their attention in a human way. 1172 00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:31,429 And that versus some content farm 1173 00:56:31,513 --> 00:56:34,474 that all it cares about is that your kid just sits there 1174 00:56:34,557 --> 00:56:37,519 drooling, never, ever stopping. 1175 00:56:37,602 --> 00:56:39,396 Like that's... It's so bad. 1176 00:56:40,271 --> 00:56:43,233 Yo. One, two, two, two, three. 1177 00:56:43,316 --> 00:56:46,653 Now if you put your hands up then you got to put them down 1178 00:56:46,736 --> 00:56:49,656 Then you move it to the right Let me see you shake it down 1179 00:56:49,739 --> 00:56:53,868 Shake it down, shake it down Let me see you shake it down 1180 00:56:53,952 --> 00:56:55,370 Shake it down 1181 00:56:56,788 --> 00:56:58,456 Let's see what's happening, girl. 1182 00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:01,960 You know, it's hard to compete on the platforms. 1183 00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:03,795 It's hard to compete on YouTube. 1184 00:57:03,878 --> 00:57:07,048 It's hard to get our music on YouTube Kids. 1185 00:57:07,132 --> 00:57:08,675 Shake it down 1186 00:57:08,758 --> 00:57:11,344 And if you're not in the app, you don't exist. 1187 00:57:12,429 --> 00:57:13,763 Then you move it to left 1188 00:57:13,847 --> 00:57:15,432 We're the little mom and pops 1189 00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:20,353 and oftentimes we don't survive because the big corporations 1190 00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:21,563 come and knock us out. 1191 00:57:26,192 --> 00:57:30,405 "Candle Chase," YouTube short, action. 1192 00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:34,325 In my window 1193 00:57:34,409 --> 00:57:37,787 Where you can see the glow from my menorah 1194 00:57:37,871 --> 00:57:40,123 On newly fallen snow 1195 00:57:40,206 --> 00:57:42,459 And you're not going too far above your head, right? 1196 00:57:42,542 --> 00:57:44,169 -You're just going-- -No, gonna be in front of me. 1197 00:57:44,252 --> 00:57:46,129 -Mostly in front of you. -I'll try and do it in small. 1198 00:57:46,212 --> 00:57:47,964 And try not to put it in front of your face 1199 00:57:48,047 --> 00:57:49,382 -as much as possible. -Okay. 1200 00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:51,718 Eight nights filled with lights 1201 00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:54,387 Happy Hanukkah 1202 00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:57,265 Eight nights filled with lights 1203 00:57:57,348 --> 00:58:00,435 I mean, it is an interesting place to be in. 1204 00:58:00,518 --> 00:58:03,980 I am an artist, I am a musician, 1205 00:58:04,063 --> 00:58:05,482 and I'm a business owner. 1206 00:58:05,565 --> 00:58:08,234 And like, I want to keep doing this thing 1207 00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:09,944 that I'm doing and make enough money 1208 00:58:10,028 --> 00:58:12,030 to make a career out of it. 1209 00:58:12,947 --> 00:58:15,492 I had to relearn, okay, what is this YouTube thing? 1210 00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:16,993 How do I make videos myself? 1211 00:58:17,076 --> 00:58:20,497 And just trying to find a new way to reach families. 1212 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:23,166 So we are going to do egg shakers for this one. 1213 00:58:23,249 --> 00:58:26,336 I realize now I am the brand. 1214 00:58:26,419 --> 00:58:29,088 I was very resistant to that when I started. 1215 00:58:29,172 --> 00:58:31,382 I was like, "I'm not a brand! I'm a person!" 1216 00:58:31,466 --> 00:58:33,218 Hi. It's me, Laurie. 1217 00:58:33,301 --> 00:58:35,678 But the transition was like, really? 1218 00:58:35,762 --> 00:58:37,805 This is what I'm doing? I make audio. 1219 00:58:37,889 --> 00:58:39,349 It's for listening, it's singing, 1220 00:58:39,432 --> 00:58:40,850 it's using your body. 1221 00:58:40,934 --> 00:58:44,354 And then suddenly I couldn't do audio without videos. 1222 00:58:44,437 --> 00:58:48,650 -It was hard. -And then we all fall down 1223 00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:51,778 My own daughter, I just remember I was sitting home with her 1224 00:58:51,861 --> 00:58:55,240 and I was trying to do something with her on the couch 1225 00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:58,326 and she kept asking me to put on my DVD. 1226 00:58:58,409 --> 00:59:01,454 Like the DVD of me, the original Laurie Berkner Band. 1227 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:07,001 And she would not engage with me as a person. 1228 00:59:07,085 --> 00:59:09,462 She only wanted to watch the DVD. 1229 00:59:09,546 --> 00:59:13,049 And I was like, "This is terrible." 1230 00:59:13,132 --> 00:59:16,177 -Hey, Victor, hey, Freddie -Hey, Freddie! 1231 00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:19,347 So I had to figure out how to hold on to the things 1232 00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:22,225 that are important to me so that I am doing something 1233 00:59:22,308 --> 00:59:25,061 that's still true to who I am 1234 00:59:25,144 --> 00:59:26,980 and what I want to create for kids, 1235 00:59:27,063 --> 00:59:30,316 and, like, remind myself that is my job. 1236 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,902 And it's like... It's kind of a huge job. 1237 00:59:38,074 --> 00:59:41,828 I remember singing a lullaby called "The Great Big Dog," 1238 00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:44,872 and one part of it is... 1239 00:59:44,956 --> 00:59:47,792 Mama loves you Papa loves you 1240 00:59:47,875 --> 00:59:50,503 Everybody loves baby 1241 00:59:52,964 --> 00:59:54,841 Half the kids in the room would start crying 1242 00:59:54,924 --> 00:59:56,092 when I sang it to them. 1243 00:59:56,843 --> 00:59:59,554 I remember one kid telling me like, "I miss my mom." 1244 00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:06,227 The great big dog came down the meadow... 1245 01:00:07,061 --> 01:00:10,440 There's something very emotional and filled with love 1246 01:00:10,523 --> 01:00:12,191 about a lullaby. 1247 01:00:13,318 --> 01:00:16,112 This is the time parents leave the room. 1248 01:00:16,195 --> 01:00:17,864 You're left in the dark. 1249 01:00:17,947 --> 01:00:21,909 There's a lot of things to be worried about, afraid of. 1250 01:00:22,952 --> 01:00:24,954 I think it's hard to fall asleep as a kid 1251 01:00:25,038 --> 01:00:26,331 a lot of times. 1252 01:00:27,498 --> 01:00:30,668 So the lullaby is meant to create that bonding, 1253 01:00:30,752 --> 01:00:33,630 intimate moment that is not something 1254 01:00:33,713 --> 01:00:36,215 that we get a lot with our parents. 1255 01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:41,262 Everybody loves baby 1256 01:00:42,930 --> 01:00:44,641 Making music for families 1257 01:00:44,724 --> 01:00:49,145 is this huge opportunity to create a bonding experience, 1258 01:00:50,438 --> 01:00:54,651 to really have those two generations glued together 1259 01:00:54,734 --> 01:00:58,780 through a love of sound and lyrics and melody. 1260 01:00:58,863 --> 01:01:00,948 And if you don't take that opportunity, 1261 01:01:01,032 --> 01:01:04,869 you're cheating yourself out of a beautiful outcome. 1262 01:01:05,662 --> 01:01:09,916 What do you like about music? 1263 01:01:09,999 --> 01:01:12,960 I like sitting next to my mom. 1264 01:01:13,044 --> 01:01:15,380 Oh, you like to sit next to your mom when you listen to music? 1265 01:01:15,463 --> 01:01:16,964 Yeah. 1266 01:01:18,091 --> 01:01:20,051 What does Mommy sing you before you go to sleep? 1267 01:01:20,134 --> 01:01:24,180 Mommy sings me "Down By the Station." 1268 01:01:24,263 --> 01:01:27,475 How does that make you feel when Mommy sings that to you? 1269 01:01:27,558 --> 01:01:28,601 Good. 1270 01:01:32,980 --> 01:01:34,565 Oh, do that one. 1271 01:01:35,483 --> 01:01:37,402 -Um... -Okay, I'll get this done first. 1272 01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:39,904 Da-doink. 1273 01:01:39,987 --> 01:01:42,073 -All right, so... -I need a green pen. 1274 01:01:42,156 --> 01:01:45,743 -Just in that general vicinity. -Mm-hmm. 1275 01:01:45,827 --> 01:01:50,748 -And I need you to do that one. -Uh-huh. I got it. I got it. 1276 01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:53,501 Right around 2020, 1277 01:01:53,584 --> 01:01:57,296 I reached a point where I had made 19 albums, 1278 01:01:57,380 --> 01:01:59,966 352 songs, 1279 01:02:00,049 --> 01:02:03,469 and I just kind of felt like I had said it all. 1280 01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:07,849 It just was like this seemingly never-ending song volcano 1281 01:02:07,932 --> 01:02:10,852 that I just rode until all the magma was gone 1282 01:02:10,935 --> 01:02:13,521 and I just allowed it to cool. 1283 01:02:13,604 --> 01:02:15,231 352 songs. 1284 01:02:17,608 --> 01:02:19,986 It's too many songs. Don't need more. 1285 01:02:21,571 --> 01:02:23,698 But the people want more. 1286 01:02:23,781 --> 01:02:26,200 But the people want more 1287 01:02:26,284 --> 01:02:29,662 But I don't want to do more But the people want more 1288 01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:31,080 Woo, woo, woo 1289 01:02:31,164 --> 01:02:33,499 Musically, you know, I've just moved on. 1290 01:02:33,583 --> 01:02:36,753 It's just sort of in the rear view, you know? 1291 01:02:36,836 --> 01:02:38,212 But I'm very proud of it. 1292 01:02:38,296 --> 01:02:41,799 Like, I'm so happy I had that time 1293 01:02:41,883 --> 01:02:44,844 where I was so inspired and driven. 1294 01:02:44,927 --> 01:02:47,013 I look back and I think, "Man, there were times 1295 01:02:47,096 --> 01:02:49,599 when I did three shows a day three days in a row." 1296 01:02:49,682 --> 01:02:51,726 Where did all these kangaroos come from? 1297 01:02:51,809 --> 01:02:53,728 Oh my goodness. 1298 01:02:53,811 --> 01:02:56,355 Kangaroo, kangaroo 1299 01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:59,108 I felt like back in the day when we were a pop band 1300 01:02:59,192 --> 01:03:01,652 and on the radio, commerce really 1301 01:03:01,736 --> 01:03:04,572 seeped into the creative process, 1302 01:03:04,655 --> 01:03:07,408 and made it kind of perverted in a way. 1303 01:03:07,492 --> 01:03:09,577 And so at the very beginning with Caspar, 1304 01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:13,748 I decided to run an experiment, which was to do nothing. 1305 01:03:13,831 --> 01:03:16,876 Don't spend time doing a lot of promotion stuff 1306 01:03:16,959 --> 01:03:20,671 or conjuring ways to make it a trend. 1307 01:03:20,755 --> 01:03:24,133 But just to make the music as great as it could be 1308 01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:26,052 and let the music do the work. 1309 01:03:26,135 --> 01:03:28,971 Butterfly driving a truck All right 1310 01:03:29,055 --> 01:03:31,724 Butterfly driving a truck All right 1311 01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:35,102 Because of the age range that I'm working with, 1312 01:03:35,186 --> 01:03:38,439 every five years, my entire audience ages out. 1313 01:03:38,523 --> 01:03:41,025 And that's true for all these kids' artists. 1314 01:03:41,734 --> 01:03:45,154 Luckily, I think the power of happy parents 1315 01:03:45,238 --> 01:03:47,406 telling other parents to check it out 1316 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:49,367 is enough to keep the ball rolling, 1317 01:03:49,450 --> 01:03:51,536 even if I don't do shows or put out new records. 1318 01:03:52,662 --> 01:03:55,164 I was trying to make something that would be around forever. 1319 01:03:55,248 --> 01:03:58,084 And so far it looks like it's being shepherded along 1320 01:03:58,167 --> 01:04:00,294 from generation to generation and I don't do anything 1321 01:04:00,378 --> 01:04:01,504 to make that happen. 1322 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:06,467 We are at the end of the show. 1323 01:04:06,551 --> 01:04:08,678 It is time to say goodbye. Two hands up in the air. 1324 01:04:09,387 --> 01:04:10,638 Start waving and say bye-bye! 1325 01:04:10,721 --> 01:04:12,306 Over the years with The Wiggles, 1326 01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:14,308 I've had thousands and thousands 1327 01:04:14,392 --> 01:04:15,601 and thousands of shows. 1328 01:04:16,644 --> 01:04:18,187 I'm 60 years old. 1329 01:04:18,271 --> 01:04:21,357 I've been wiggling now for more than half my life. 1330 01:04:26,737 --> 01:04:29,156 Oh, Madison, thank you so much, mate. 1331 01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:32,285 The Wiggles have been going so long 1332 01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:35,746 that we do have multiple generations of fans. 1333 01:04:36,956 --> 01:04:41,711 Sometimes we do shows for the original audience. 1334 01:04:41,794 --> 01:04:43,796 They grew up with The Wiggles as children 1335 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,050 and now they're 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30 years old. 1336 01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,470 And they come in their t-shirts 1337 01:04:51,554 --> 01:04:53,639 or their hats they had when they were four years old. 1338 01:04:53,723 --> 01:04:55,182 And it is the wildest. 1339 01:04:55,266 --> 01:04:58,269 This next guest is The fucking Wiggles! 1340 01:04:58,352 --> 01:04:59,604 Oh, shit! 1341 01:05:00,521 --> 01:05:02,690 Make some fucking noise! 1342 01:05:11,574 --> 01:05:13,034 As the years have gone on, 1343 01:05:13,117 --> 01:05:15,453 we've had a lot of change in our lineup. 1344 01:05:16,537 --> 01:05:19,081 I really thought to myself, we have a responsibility 1345 01:05:19,165 --> 01:05:20,499 to be inclusive. 1346 01:05:21,417 --> 01:05:25,880 So these days we have a real diverse group of performers. 1347 01:05:25,963 --> 01:05:29,091 Three, two, one, cheese. 1348 01:05:29,842 --> 01:05:34,430 I love working with people who share the passion, 1349 01:05:34,513 --> 01:05:37,058 share the love of children and children's music. 1350 01:05:39,769 --> 01:05:41,437 Do the propeller 1351 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,607 It's been an amazing time over the last 33 years 1352 01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:47,360 and I'm really looking forward to the next 33. 1353 01:05:47,443 --> 01:05:49,403 Do the propeller 1354 01:05:49,487 --> 01:05:52,114 Do the propeller around and around 1355 01:05:54,617 --> 01:05:57,495 Hey, everybody. How you doing today? 1356 01:05:58,204 --> 01:05:59,914 Okay, here we go. 1357 01:05:59,997 --> 01:06:04,043 This one is for everybody to just dance. 1358 01:06:04,126 --> 01:06:07,129 I'm feeling good I'm feeling great 1359 01:06:07,213 --> 01:06:09,173 I feel like everything is going my way 1360 01:06:09,256 --> 01:06:10,341 Hey. 1361 01:06:10,424 --> 01:06:11,592 I feel alive 1362 01:06:11,676 --> 01:06:13,260 -Yeah. Hey. -Come catch the wave 1363 01:06:13,344 --> 01:06:15,096 I feel alive, yeah 1364 01:06:15,179 --> 01:06:16,722 Some type of way, hey! 1365 01:06:16,806 --> 01:06:19,392 Everybody feeling good, feeling great 1366 01:06:19,475 --> 01:06:23,646 How are you? I'm feeling good 1367 01:06:23,729 --> 01:06:25,898 Hey, I'm feeling like I'm feeling like 1368 01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,650 Everything's going my way 1369 01:06:27,733 --> 01:06:30,486 I'm operating in the independent kids' music space 1370 01:06:30,569 --> 01:06:35,825 and this space is vast, the genre is expanding, 1371 01:06:35,908 --> 01:06:39,620 and I think it's become really, really diverse now. 1372 01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:42,248 Rock this I know you got this... 1373 01:06:42,331 --> 01:06:44,125 That's where the key is 1374 01:06:44,208 --> 01:06:46,335 because when you start inspiring other artists, 1375 01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:49,296 then it just continues to diversify more and more. 1376 01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:51,298 And so now you have kids' hip hop. 1377 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:52,883 Sometimes when you play at school 1378 01:06:52,967 --> 01:06:55,428 Another kid acts like you're not so cool 1379 01:06:55,511 --> 01:06:58,014 -There's jazz. -Doo-wop, doo-wop 1380 01:06:58,097 --> 01:06:59,849 Artists like Jazzy Ash. 1381 01:06:59,932 --> 01:07:02,059 Take it outside I won't go outside 1382 01:07:02,977 --> 01:07:05,229 123 Andrés and Christina. 1383 01:07:08,357 --> 01:07:09,442 Oh, I love them so much. 1384 01:07:09,525 --> 01:07:11,068 Just when you think that it's time to quit 1385 01:07:11,152 --> 01:07:14,280 The reality is that there is a huge community 1386 01:07:14,363 --> 01:07:16,782 of kids' music artists of color. 1387 01:07:16,866 --> 01:07:19,869 Just when you think that it's time to give up and quit 1388 01:07:19,952 --> 01:07:24,999 That is exciting, that's fun, that's like, wow. 1389 01:07:25,082 --> 01:07:29,378 It just inspires you to do more, to keep going. 1390 01:07:29,462 --> 01:07:31,672 And now I'm thinking, okay, what's this next record 1391 01:07:31,756 --> 01:07:32,798 going to sound like? 1392 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:34,675 I should call Bootsy Collins 1393 01:07:34,759 --> 01:07:37,053 and be like, "Bootsy, let's do 'Wheels on the Bus.'" 1394 01:07:37,136 --> 01:07:38,929 That would be dope. 1395 01:07:42,808 --> 01:07:44,143 Okay. 1396 01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,527 So after "Baby Shark," 1397 01:07:53,611 --> 01:07:56,864 you know, I stopped performing children's music for a while. 1398 01:07:58,824 --> 01:08:03,704 And then I got an email from you guys two months ago. 1399 01:08:05,706 --> 01:08:07,750 I said, "Well, do you need a performance?" 1400 01:08:07,833 --> 01:08:10,294 I says, "You know, I'm retiring." 1401 01:08:10,377 --> 01:08:13,255 You said, "Well, we'd kind of like a performance." 1402 01:08:18,135 --> 01:08:21,555 And so I called Farmer Jen at the petting zoo 1403 01:08:21,639 --> 01:08:24,308 and I'm like, "We got to get the band back together!" 1404 01:08:29,063 --> 01:08:34,443 Bubbles, bubbles I love those bubbles 1405 01:08:34,527 --> 01:08:37,321 Take away my struggles 1406 01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:38,989 I love those bubbles 1407 01:08:39,073 --> 01:08:41,700 And the other thing is, during that space of time, 1408 01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:44,578 like I've given up on being the one-hit wonder. 1409 01:08:44,662 --> 01:08:46,247 I've given up on being good. 1410 01:08:46,330 --> 01:08:49,250 Bum-bum, ba-ba-ba-bum 1411 01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:52,086 I'm just writing songs that are fun 1412 01:08:52,169 --> 01:08:54,964 and that are meaningful to me and meaningful to my audience. 1413 01:08:55,047 --> 01:08:56,674 Ba-ba-ba-bum 1414 01:08:57,508 --> 01:09:00,344 Bum-bum-ba-bum Bum-bum-ba-bum, ba-bum 1415 01:09:00,427 --> 01:09:02,346 It just feels so good to be back doing it again. 1416 01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:04,765 It's like part of me, you know. 1417 01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:06,934 Bubbles, bubbles 1418 01:09:07,017 --> 01:09:10,146 Bubbles, bubbles in the air 1419 01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:11,230 Pop 1420 01:09:11,313 --> 01:09:13,232 We may take a couple of months off 1421 01:09:13,315 --> 01:09:14,775 in the winter when the snow gets-- 1422 01:09:14,859 --> 01:09:16,277 and that barn gets really cold. 1423 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,653 But we got heat in the barn for now, 1424 01:09:17,736 --> 01:09:18,988 so we're just going to keep it going. 1425 01:09:19,071 --> 01:09:21,282 Bubbles, yes, bubbles 1426 01:09:22,408 --> 01:09:25,661 They're bringing a brand new day 1427 01:09:33,711 --> 01:09:37,006 Hello. Come have a seat. What's your name? 1428 01:09:37,089 --> 01:09:39,133 -Julia. -Julia. 1429 01:09:39,216 --> 01:09:40,634 Hi, Julia. 1430 01:09:40,718 --> 01:09:42,136 -Juliet or Julia? -Julia. 1431 01:09:42,219 --> 01:09:43,762 -Welcome. -You're our favorite. 1432 01:09:43,846 --> 01:09:45,598 Aw. Thank you. Thanks, guys. 1433 01:09:45,681 --> 01:09:49,852 I remember when I started doing kids' music, 1434 01:09:49,935 --> 01:09:53,314 I did feel a little bit like maybe people thought that 1435 01:09:53,397 --> 01:09:55,566 for some reason kids as an audience 1436 01:09:55,649 --> 01:09:58,444 means that the art or the product, 1437 01:09:58,527 --> 01:10:01,447 the music itself is somehow not as good. 1438 01:10:03,032 --> 01:10:04,158 Cheese! 1439 01:10:04,241 --> 01:10:05,492 I felt like I... 1440 01:10:05,576 --> 01:10:07,995 I took that in when I was younger 1441 01:10:08,078 --> 01:10:11,832 and it's taken a lot of years to let it go, 1442 01:10:11,916 --> 01:10:14,210 and just feel really proud of what I do. 1443 01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:19,840 It felt like, oh, I can write a song like this very quickly. 1444 01:10:19,924 --> 01:10:21,050 It feels really good. 1445 01:10:22,176 --> 01:10:25,221 The songs are catchy and easy right away, 1446 01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:28,682 and I worked a lot harder when I was trying to write 1447 01:10:28,766 --> 01:10:32,686 for grown-ups, and it just wasn't as much fun. 1448 01:10:33,395 --> 01:10:35,814 I don't know. I'd prefer to spend my life doing something 1449 01:10:35,898 --> 01:10:38,150 that I think is fun and that I enjoy. 1450 01:10:41,445 --> 01:10:44,406 The first thing you're taught as a professional rock critic 1451 01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:47,618 is that funny music isn't cool. 1452 01:10:49,870 --> 01:10:54,458 Like, silly music is incredibly uncool. 1453 01:10:55,084 --> 01:10:57,753 We sort of over-articulate what it is 1454 01:10:57,836 --> 01:11:01,131 and why it is and how it is and should it be. 1455 01:11:02,091 --> 01:11:04,426 But a three-year-old doesn't have to do any of that. 1456 01:11:04,510 --> 01:11:06,011 A three-year-old just is. 1457 01:11:06,845 --> 01:11:10,099 And there's something beautiful about watching a kid 1458 01:11:10,182 --> 01:11:13,560 have that experience without any of the intellectual, 1459 01:11:13,644 --> 01:11:15,354 the emotional baggage of it. 1460 01:11:16,146 --> 01:11:18,816 Just like, "I love this," and that's enough. 1461 01:11:18,899 --> 01:11:20,484 That's all you ever need. 1462 01:11:22,987 --> 01:11:26,824 I got some career advice from Madonna back in the '90s. 1463 01:11:27,408 --> 01:11:28,993 I remember her saying, 1464 01:11:29,076 --> 01:11:31,578 "Know that because your music is funny, 1465 01:11:31,662 --> 01:11:33,956 you will never get critical acclaim 1466 01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:36,208 for the craft of what you've achieved." 1467 01:11:36,792 --> 01:11:39,461 And she saved me a lot of frustration, I guess, 1468 01:11:39,545 --> 01:11:41,463 because I never looked for it. 1469 01:11:41,547 --> 01:11:44,300 You know, I never factored in critical acclaim 1470 01:11:44,383 --> 01:11:47,678 or people respecting the craft of what I do 1471 01:11:47,761 --> 01:11:51,682 to be able to make it and share it and love it. 1472 01:11:55,811 --> 01:11:59,148 Kick. Kick. Kick. 1473 01:11:59,231 --> 01:12:01,650 I do miss the kids. 1474 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:05,863 I miss being around that energy, 1475 01:12:05,946 --> 01:12:07,239 those zero-to-five-year-olds, 1476 01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:09,283 and they're just weird, surreal. 1477 01:12:09,366 --> 01:12:10,826 They know the parts of the world, 1478 01:12:10,909 --> 01:12:12,369 but they don't know how the parts fit, 1479 01:12:12,453 --> 01:12:14,538 but they try to fit them and they don't really fit. 1480 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:19,251 Their explanations of how things work, 1481 01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:20,377 their questions. 1482 01:12:21,462 --> 01:12:22,588 I do miss that. 1483 01:12:25,883 --> 01:12:29,636 All of this stuff is raw material. 1484 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,056 It's like making them into people. 1485 01:12:32,139 --> 01:12:34,808 Alexa! Put on "Baby Shark"! 1486 01:12:35,559 --> 01:12:37,186 It's creating their taste. 1487 01:12:37,853 --> 01:12:40,230 It's telling them what to care about, 1488 01:12:41,106 --> 01:12:42,399 what we care about. 1489 01:12:42,483 --> 01:12:44,943 Little monkeys jumping on the bed 1490 01:12:45,027 --> 01:12:48,530 And one fell off and bumped his head 1491 01:12:48,614 --> 01:12:51,575 Mama called the doctor and the doctor said 1492 01:12:51,658 --> 01:12:53,118 What'd he say? 1493 01:12:53,202 --> 01:12:55,579 No more monkeys jumping on the bed! 1494 01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:07,633 I don't know what it is about it, 1495 01:13:07,716 --> 01:13:11,512 but I feel like there is this mystery about music. 1496 01:13:14,098 --> 01:13:18,102 Like, why is music so important? Why do I care about it so much? 1497 01:13:18,185 --> 01:13:19,853 Why does it make me feel so many things? 1498 01:13:19,937 --> 01:13:21,980 Why does it make me want to do so much? 1499 01:13:22,064 --> 01:13:24,566 Why does it make people want to reach out? 1500 01:13:25,651 --> 01:13:29,238 I actually think part of it is the vibratory nature of music, 1501 01:13:29,321 --> 01:13:33,450 the actual vibrations, the energetic quality of it. 1502 01:13:35,577 --> 01:13:39,123 The fact that even the super newborn love music 1503 01:13:39,206 --> 01:13:41,834 and in utero, they love music, 1504 01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:46,088 it speaks to the value of music as an abstract language 1505 01:13:47,506 --> 01:13:50,426 that is really about tickling nervous systems. 1506 01:13:50,509 --> 01:13:52,970 -Yes, it is. -No, it's not. 1507 01:13:53,053 --> 01:13:55,597 Deep inside the, like, compressed nucleus 1508 01:13:55,681 --> 01:13:57,266 of a song atom 1509 01:13:57,349 --> 01:14:01,979 is this ancient nervous system experience. 1510 01:14:02,688 --> 01:14:06,191 Probably goes so far back to just making rhythm... 1511 01:14:07,484 --> 01:14:10,237 of any kind, being natural and soothing 1512 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,030 for the human organism. 1513 01:14:16,827 --> 01:14:18,328 One of the things we have in common 1514 01:14:18,412 --> 01:14:19,830 is we were all little kids, 1515 01:14:20,497 --> 01:14:23,959 and this music somehow 1516 01:14:24,042 --> 01:14:26,545 is breaking through the adult barrier, 1517 01:14:26,628 --> 01:14:31,175 the "I'm grown, I'm serious about life," 1518 01:14:31,258 --> 01:14:33,594 and touching that little person inside of you 1519 01:14:34,219 --> 01:14:36,930 who's still moved by these messages, 1520 01:14:37,014 --> 01:14:39,975 who still believes in a little bit of magic. 1521 01:14:40,058 --> 01:14:41,643 'Cause that's what we're giving in the music 1522 01:14:41,727 --> 01:14:44,104 is a little bit of magic, and we all need it. 1523 01:14:46,023 --> 01:14:47,858 Maybe that's what I wanted to say, 1524 01:14:47,941 --> 01:14:50,152 is that I feel so grateful that there is this magic 1525 01:14:50,235 --> 01:14:54,364 around music and around reaching kids and families 1526 01:14:54,448 --> 01:14:57,868 and hearing back from them how much it means to them 1527 01:14:57,951 --> 01:15:02,080 that I am so happy I get to experience every day. 1528 01:15:03,749 --> 01:15:05,792 Yeah, it just makes me... I'm... 1529 01:15:06,543 --> 01:15:09,379 I'm really glad I get to do it. 1530 01:15:10,631 --> 01:15:13,759 So maybe that was all I wanted to say. 1531 01:15:13,842 --> 01:15:17,596 And the stars are shining brightly 1532 01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:21,433 And the lights are dimming down 1533 01:15:21,517 --> 01:15:25,312 And the twilight, it comes nightly 1534 01:15:25,395 --> 01:15:27,606 Sun is off, moon is on 1535 01:15:27,689 --> 01:15:30,776 Everybody knows the day is gone 1536 01:15:33,111 --> 01:15:36,657 And the crickets are all singing 1537 01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:39,952 And the frogs call out tonight 1538 01:15:40,577 --> 01:15:44,456 That's the song this night is bringing 1539 01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:46,792 Sun is off, moon is on 1540 01:15:46,875 --> 01:15:49,795 Everybody knows the day is gone 1541 01:15:51,964 --> 01:15:55,759 All the rivers are done running 1542 01:15:55,842 --> 01:15:59,596 And the mountains are all still 1543 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,141 And the purple sky is stunning 1544 01:16:03,850 --> 01:16:05,894 Sun is off, moon is on 1545 01:16:05,978 --> 01:16:09,064 Everybody knows the day is gone 1546 01:16:48,729 --> 01:16:52,399 And the houses are all silent 1547 01:16:52,482 --> 01:16:56,236 As the colors fade to gray 1548 01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,282 And the sky is wide and giant 1549 01:17:00,365 --> 01:17:02,492 Sun is off, moon is on 1550 01:17:02,576 --> 01:17:05,662 Everybody knows the day is gone 1551 01:17:07,998 --> 01:17:10,125 Sun is off, moon is on 1552 01:17:10,208 --> 01:17:13,879 Everybody knows the day is gone 1553 01:17:15,380 --> 01:17:19,009 And the stillness is astounding 1554 01:17:19,092 --> 01:17:22,387 Does the planet spin no more? 1555 01:17:23,096 --> 01:17:26,892 And the silence is announcing 1556 01:17:26,975 --> 01:17:29,144 Sun is off, moon is on 1557 01:17:29,227 --> 01:17:32,397 Everybody knows the day is gone 1558 01:17:34,816 --> 01:17:36,735 Sun is off, moon is on 1559 01:17:36,818 --> 01:17:40,405 Everybody knows the day is gone 1560 01:17:42,366 --> 01:17:44,493 Sun is off, moon is on 1561 01:17:44,576 --> 01:17:47,829 Everybody knows the day is gone 1562 01:17:49,915 --> 01:17:51,958 Sun is off, moon is on 1563 01:17:52,042 --> 01:17:55,212 Everybody knows the day is gone