1 00:00:00,458 --> 00:00:03,795  ♪♪♪  2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:20,311  ♪ intense music plays ♪  5 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:28,862       Good          evening, my fellow Americans.    6 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:33,283  First, I should like   to express my gratitude  7 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:35,910  to the radio   and television networks  8 00:00:35,952 --> 00:00:39,247  for the opportunities they          have given me over the years    9 00:00:39,289 --> 00:00:42,375  to bring reports       and messages to our nation.     10 00:00:43,585 --> 00:00:47,547  ♪♪♪  11 00:00:47,589 --> 00:00:51,634      We annually spend         on military security alone,     12 00:00:51,676 --> 00:00:55,722  more than the net income of all         United States corporations.     13 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:00,560     In the councils of government,  14 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:02,270  we must guard against  15 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:04,773  the acquisition   of unwarranted influence,      16 00:01:04,814 --> 00:01:06,941  whether sought or unsought     17 00:01:06,941 --> 00:01:09,986  by the military-industrial      complex.  18 00:01:10,028 --> 00:01:11,863       President Eisenhower      used the term  19 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:14,282      military-industrial complex      in his farewell address,      20 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:16,868  and what that referred     to is this increasing alliance    21 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:18,787  between our industrial capacity    22 00:01:18,828 --> 00:01:20,121  in the United States   and the military.  23 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:23,833    War is fought   on the battlefields  24 00:01:23,875 --> 00:01:26,294  with kinetic energy   and kinetic weapons,  25 00:01:26,294 --> 00:01:28,213  but also,   it's fought in the mind.      26 00:01:28,254 --> 00:01:29,964     It's fought in public opinion.  27 00:01:30,006 --> 00:01:32,217  It's fought through   public relations and propaganda.  28 00:01:34,135 --> 00:01:35,887  The military-entertainment      complex,  29 00:01:35,929 --> 00:01:37,472  as a term,   is playing off of that.  30 00:01:37,514 --> 00:01:40,517     It's suggesting that a similar       kind of alliance is forming,    31 00:01:40,558 --> 00:01:43,228      not with industrial powers,         but with entertainment powers.  32 00:01:45,271 --> 00:01:47,774      The  really powerful       storytelling mechanism  33 00:01:47,816 --> 00:01:48,775  that is Hollywood,  34 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:50,610  speaks to a different   part of us.  35 00:01:50,652 --> 00:01:52,946  It speaks to an emotional       register.  36 00:01:52,987 --> 00:01:55,156  It is the most powerful   storytelling mechanism  37 00:01:55,156 --> 00:01:57,075    ever devised by human beings.     38 00:01:58,201 --> 00:01:59,702  In the invasion of Iraq,      39 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:03,331  we found out a lot about       how the military massages      40 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:05,667  and manipulates   those industries  41 00:02:05,708 --> 00:02:06,918  to get its message out.  42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,337  We must stop the terror.  43 00:02:09,337 --> 00:02:11,005  Now, watch this drive.  44 00:02:11,047 --> 00:02:12,340       Do you trust this   person?  45 00:02:12,340 --> 00:02:13,258  Yes, I do.  46 00:02:13,299 --> 00:02:14,843    Combat boots and   fatigues,  47 00:02:14,884 --> 00:02:16,302  mingled with stilettos   and bling.  48 00:02:16,344 --> 00:02:17,679  Good evening, Achmed.  49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,309  Good evening... infidel.  50 00:02:23,351 --> 00:02:25,353       But, if you can get       history written  51 00:02:25,395 --> 00:02:27,897  in Hollywood celluloid,  52 00:02:27,897 --> 00:02:31,151  then you've really done      your job in selling the public  53 00:02:31,192 --> 00:02:34,070  on the story   that you wanna tell.  54 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:35,613      In the battle     of Iraq,  55 00:02:35,655 --> 00:02:39,701  the United States     and our allies have prevailed.    56 00:02:43,204 --> 00:02:46,291  There are large dominant  57 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:48,126  military-entertainment complexes   out there,  58 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:49,711  but there's a lot   of small ones too  59 00:02:49,752 --> 00:02:52,338     that are vying for attention      and brain space.  60 00:02:53,673 --> 00:02:55,216  And ISIS is one of them.  61 00:02:55,258 --> 00:02:58,219  ♪♪♪  62 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:23,953     ISIS has released  63 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:25,705  a new propaganda video.  64 00:03:26,706 --> 00:03:29,334    This production         displays glossy camera work     65 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:31,628  and high-level   production techniques.  66 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:34,255     The ISIS PR machine  67 00:03:34,255 --> 00:03:36,216  is constantly making sure      68 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:38,551  the world is aware.  69 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:52,023     Denis Cuspert is his real name,    70 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:53,983  a former German rapper,  71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,403  a notorious ISIS fighter       and recruiter.  72 00:04:07,163 --> 00:04:08,706  Allahu Akbar.  73 00:04:09,165 --> 00:04:11,167    He was the face of ISIS.  74 00:04:11,209 --> 00:04:14,212      There were no celebrities   in ISIS except for him.  75 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:15,755     They would put him on YouTube.  76 00:04:15,797 --> 00:04:17,590     They would put him everywhere,   all the time.  77 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:20,134  They were constantly   broadcasting Denis.  78 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:21,886  Denis Cuspert had,   you know, basically  79 00:04:21,928 --> 00:04:23,304      rock star status in ISIS.  80 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:25,848  This individual had   a relative free rein  81 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:28,309  to encourage   and recruit others online.     82 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:30,478    When I met Denis   the first time,  83 00:04:30,478 --> 00:04:32,522  I could see   he was very charismatic.      84 00:04:32,522 --> 00:04:33,856  I could clearly see   this is somebody  85 00:04:33,898 --> 00:04:35,650    who was gonna become a leader.    86 00:04:35,692 --> 00:04:37,777       Denis Cuspert having         his own social media accounts,  87 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:40,655  creating propaganda,       and just trying to make it      88 00:04:40,697 --> 00:04:42,323  more personalized   for people back home.  89 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:53,167    If I'm the FBI,   they've seen the videos.      90 00:04:53,209 --> 00:04:54,669  They know he's a player.      91 00:04:54,711 --> 00:04:56,087  It makes sense to target Denis.    92 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:08,558    Daniela Greene   was hired by the FBI,  93 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:09,851  as an FBI linguist,  94 00:05:09,892 --> 00:05:11,352  a skill set   they desperately needed.      95 00:05:14,147 --> 00:05:15,440  Allahu Akbar.  96 00:05:16,566 --> 00:05:19,110  Allahu Akbar.  97 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,988   Allahu Akbar.  98 00:05:22,030 --> 00:05:24,907  The FBI thought,      "Let's take this young woman     99 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:27,160  and let's put her up   against him."  100 00:05:30,496 --> 00:05:33,624       But communicating       gives you their thoughts      101 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:34,959  and their motivations,  102 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:38,755  and it gives you kind       of a window into their soul.    103 00:05:40,548 --> 00:05:45,470  Honey Trap operations,   they come with risks.  104 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:48,264  Humans all have   vulnerabilities,  105 00:05:48,306 --> 00:05:51,434  and there's no greater   vulnerability than sex,  106 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:53,186  and romance, and love.  107 00:05:53,227 --> 00:05:55,772       Allahu Akbar. Allahu.      108 00:05:55,772 --> 00:05:58,024  Allahu Akbar.    109 00:07:19,647 --> 00:07:22,525       I had heard of Denis      during my teenage years.      110 00:07:23,651 --> 00:07:27,947     He was a figure who hung out      with people from my high school.  111 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:30,658  He was very charming.  112 00:07:30,658 --> 00:07:34,120  There were girls   who had a crush on Denis,      113 00:07:34,162 --> 00:07:37,498  but he was well-known   as someone who had a spectacular  114 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:41,043  kind of criminal past   in terms of very violent crimes    115 00:07:41,085 --> 00:07:42,962  that he'd gone to jail   for repeatedly.  116 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:07,069    Denis came out of prison   from a longer stint,  117 00:08:07,111 --> 00:08:09,071      and he came out and decided     118 00:08:09,113 --> 00:08:11,616  that he was   gonna do gangster rap.  119 00:09:37,326 --> 00:09:40,246  ♪♪♪  120 00:09:46,335 --> 00:09:49,213    In Kreuzberg,       the kind of most famous gang    121 00:09:49,213 --> 00:09:50,923  was "36 Boys,"  122 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:53,634  which was a gang   of mostly Turkish  123 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:55,595      and Arab and Kurdish youth.     124 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:58,431  Denis was a member of the gang.    125 00:09:58,472 --> 00:09:59,974  He hung with them.  126 00:12:45,598 --> 00:12:48,350        Denis grew up in West Berlin,    127 00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:51,312  which was occupied   by American soldiers.  128 00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:54,356  ♪♪♪  129 00:12:55,733 --> 00:12:59,111    In 1945,   the US liberates Germany      130 00:12:59,111 --> 00:13:00,112  from Nazi rule.  131 00:13:00,696 --> 00:13:01,989       Liberated, occupied.     132 00:13:01,989 --> 00:13:04,450  It's important to always       add that.  133 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,914  When the US Army   occupied Germany,  134 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:12,124  the US Army   was still segregated.  135 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:14,043  Black American soldiers   were fighting  136 00:13:14,084 --> 00:13:16,086  in a segregated US Army,      137 00:13:16,128 --> 00:13:18,255  and occupying a country   where they were told,  138 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,465  "This is an enemy population.  "    139 00:13:19,507 --> 00:13:23,010  There were   non-fraternization rules.      140 00:13:23,052 --> 00:13:24,345  But they were starving  141 00:13:24,345 --> 00:13:26,472  and living in   bombed-out cities.  142 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,767  Black American G.I.s   were particularly  143 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,143  friendly and generous.  144 00:13:32,853 --> 00:13:33,979  Within a year,   you have children  145 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,357      born who are biracial kids.     146 00:13:36,398 --> 00:13:40,027  So, that was part   of what was associated  147 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:42,655      with Blackness, was America.    148 00:13:47,368 --> 00:13:51,288    Denis' mom      was a young woman in the 70s.    149 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:53,123      She was living in Kreuzberg      at the time  150 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:54,667  in an unheated apartment  151 00:13:54,708 --> 00:13:57,837  with no warm water,   that kind of thing.  152 00:13:59,296 --> 00:14:01,257      She would go to night clubs     153 00:14:01,257 --> 00:14:04,468  where American G.I.s   would hang out.  154 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:07,012     Then she met this DJ one night   at a night club  155 00:14:07,429 --> 00:14:09,682  from Ghana,   who was playing there.  156 00:14:11,475 --> 00:14:16,063  Denis' biological father           was deported back to Ghana.     157 00:14:16,105 --> 00:14:17,690     And she never saw him again.     158 00:14:17,731 --> 00:14:19,316  She said she had      one photo of him somewhere.      159 00:14:21,485 --> 00:14:25,030       Denis was born then,      very premature.  160 00:14:25,072 --> 00:14:28,701  Denis had no relationship       to his biological father.      161 00:14:29,785 --> 00:14:32,037  She actually showed me   an outfit,  162 00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:33,622  the first outfit   that she dressed him in.  163 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,624    She had it pinned to the wall      in her apartment.  164 00:14:35,666 --> 00:14:39,879    It was a Woolworth teddy bear      that she dressed him  165 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,048     in the-- in the teddy bear's      like overalls.  166 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:45,759     They were really very tiny.      167 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:49,054  A couple of years later,          when Denis was three or four,    168 00:14:49,096 --> 00:14:50,764  she met Benjamin Cuspert      169 00:14:50,806 --> 00:14:53,851      who was an American soldier      in Berlin,  170 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:58,606  and they married,   and had a second son, Jermaine.    171 00:15:00,941 --> 00:15:03,193  It's kind of interesting       that Germany's  172 00:15:03,193 --> 00:15:04,987  most well-known terrorist      173 00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:07,448  carries the name   of an American soldier.  174 00:15:07,489 --> 00:15:10,534  ♪♪♪  175 00:16:01,001 --> 00:16:02,670  ♪♪♪  176 00:16:45,462 --> 00:16:48,549    The media,   which contains journalism,     177 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:52,469      which contains Hollywood,   and entertainment,  178 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:55,347  people have called that   the fourth branch of government.  179 00:16:57,558 --> 00:17:01,353  Part of the storytelling       is how Muslims  180 00:17:01,395 --> 00:17:05,941      are understood by Hollywood     181 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:08,736  and the American   political system.  182 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:13,157  Frequently,   it's so hard to get away      183 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,826  from the casting   of the characters  184 00:17:15,826 --> 00:17:19,913  like Denis   as the Muslim boogeyman.      185 00:17:19,955 --> 00:17:24,918     Now, what I find interesting      is how that story  186 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,922  can open us up   to talking about stories  187 00:17:28,964 --> 00:17:31,383      that operate as propaganda      188 00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:34,595    to consent to military action.    189 00:17:41,643 --> 00:17:44,438     From the earliest films,      190 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,317  there's been   quite a long history  191 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,779  of representing Arabs,  192 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:56,116  the Middle East, Muslims       in a certain kind of way.      193 00:17:56,116 --> 00:17:57,743    In terms   of the representations  194 00:17:57,785 --> 00:17:59,036  of Middle East  --  195 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:00,829  If you went to the Middle East,     you will find  196 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:04,124  incredible diversity,   like all human beings.  197 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,376  And yet, if you looked at       Hollywood films,  198 00:18:06,376 --> 00:18:09,463  which for a long time   was the main propaganda  199 00:18:09,505 --> 00:18:13,425  that was representing   American state power  200 00:18:13,467 --> 00:18:15,469     and American corporate power,    201 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:18,097  you'd find a very,   very narrow range.  202 00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:21,141     You'd better be able to pay       for that.  203 00:18:21,141 --> 00:18:24,645     Do you know what the penalty      is for stealing?  204 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:26,980    There is a scholar   called Jack Shaheen.  205 00:18:27,022 --> 00:18:31,068  He went through Hollywood films     and documented  206 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:33,403     how Arabs were represented.      207 00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:35,781  Very, very dehumanizing.      208 00:18:35,823 --> 00:18:37,658  So you're sitting   like I am, for example,  209 00:18:37,658 --> 00:18:39,368     watching  Back To The Future--    210 00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:43,122  Why does Hollywood inject Arabs    211 00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:46,166      and/or slurs demeaning Arabs    212 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:48,752  in movies having nothing           to do with the Middle East?     213 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,254  Who? Who?  214 00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:51,380  Who do you think?  215 00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:52,881  The Libyans!  216 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,149       We have thrillers,       we have  True Lies,  217 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:11,358      we have  Executive Decision.     218 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,026  In some of these   Hollywood films,  219 00:19:13,068 --> 00:19:15,821  you see a white woman   stripped down,  220 00:19:15,863 --> 00:19:19,283  her clothes taken off, tied up,    221 00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:21,785  and she's being sold   at an auction block.  222 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:25,539  You have a series of films     223 00:19:25,581 --> 00:19:27,082  called  The Delta Forces.      224 00:19:27,124 --> 00:19:29,042  American marines       killed many of my friends  225 00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:30,919  when they bombed Beirut.  226 00:19:30,919 --> 00:19:33,964       This also coincides      with the obsession  227 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:37,259  around the alleged proliferation  228 00:19:37,301 --> 00:19:39,928    of Arab hijackings of planes,     229 00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:42,181  which happens decontextualized,    230 00:19:42,222 --> 00:19:46,935  with these absurd   cartoonish characters  231 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:51,565  instilling fear      in white female stewardesses.    232 00:19:51,607 --> 00:19:54,026  We even have these benign films    233 00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:57,070  that have nothing to do   with Muslims or Arabs  234 00:19:57,112 --> 00:20:00,741     portray cartoonish characters.  235 00:20:00,782 --> 00:20:02,451  -What key?   -That key.  236 00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:05,579  Who's taken the key?  237 00:20:05,621 --> 00:20:06,872      The negative portrayal     of Muslims  238 00:20:06,914 --> 00:20:09,958  in Western countries      and how Muslims are treated,     239 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,460  it's "us against them."  240 00:20:11,501 --> 00:20:15,297  Muslims are unfortunately       viewed as a monolith  241 00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:16,798  by people   who may not understand,  242 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,093    and their only exposure might          be through shows like  24.  243 00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:23,430     Stories are at the center      244 00:20:23,472 --> 00:20:25,432  of social cohesion.  245 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:27,059     We're gonna have to come up       with an alternative.  246 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,603  This is alternative.  247 00:20:29,645 --> 00:20:31,438     Hollywood doesn't happen      248 00:20:31,438 --> 00:20:33,941     or create images in isolation.  249 00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:37,861  There is a triangle of politics,   pop culture, and public opinion    250 00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:39,446  that are at work.  251 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,323  They have dynamic relationships.  252 00:20:41,365 --> 00:20:43,116  We better wake up   and smell the falafel.  253 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,703        Islam is taking over       our country.  254 00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:50,582  No, ma'am. No, ma'am.  255 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:52,084  He's a-- he's  --  256 00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:53,877  he's a decent, family man.     257 00:20:59,466 --> 00:21:01,385  You see,  258 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,929  there's no shades of gray           in this war against terror.     259 00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:06,223  Either you're with   the United States  260 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,350  or you're not with   the United States.  261 00:21:12,020 --> 00:21:15,732    When you decide   to destroy Iraq,  262 00:21:15,774 --> 00:21:20,028      for example, then you've got     to prime a population.  263 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:23,490     If you look at the propaganda     following 9/11,  264 00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:25,284  there is two years  265 00:21:25,325 --> 00:21:27,327  of intense propaganda  266 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:29,162  trying to convince people      267 00:21:29,204 --> 00:21:32,749  that 9/11 was connected   to Saddam Hussein.  268 00:21:32,791 --> 00:21:35,961  So that by the time   the Iraq invasion happens,     269 00:21:36,003 --> 00:21:39,756  you have something   like 83% of the population     270 00:21:39,798 --> 00:21:41,425  in support of the war.  271 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:46,013  With horrible   disastrous results  272 00:21:46,054 --> 00:21:48,432      and a power vacuum created      273 00:21:48,473 --> 00:21:52,144     into which ISIS was thrust.      274 00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:56,982     If you look at the propaganda,      you pick on the most powerless  275 00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:58,066  people in the society  276 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:00,027  and you turn them   into scapegoats.  277 00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:01,653  "These people   aren't really human.  278 00:22:01,653 --> 00:22:04,614  They don't love their kids      like we love them  .  "  279 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:07,075  If you believe that,   then these are not real people.    280 00:22:07,075 --> 00:22:08,702  These are not   real human beings.  281 00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:10,996  And therefore,       you can do anything to them.    282 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:14,041  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  283 00:22:19,755 --> 00:22:23,175  The invisibilized dominant power  284 00:22:23,216 --> 00:22:24,718      is the American military.  285 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,054      It's the American empire,  286 00:22:27,095 --> 00:22:30,098    how it pervades and influences    287 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:33,518  every part of his  288 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,896  and his community's   understanding  289 00:22:35,937 --> 00:22:39,191      of what is just and unjust.     290 00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:22,734    In 2006,   he was meant to tour  291 00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:25,779  with DMX in the US  292 00:23:25,779 --> 00:23:28,407  after touring with him   in Germany and Europe.  293 00:23:31,993 --> 00:23:34,788      So whoever the fuck gets on      this stage tonight,  294 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:38,583  real dudes, we're doing   real fucking things, baby.     295 00:23:38,583 --> 00:23:43,088    Denis flew to LA   to perform there with him,     296 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:45,715  but he wasn't allowed   to fly in.  297 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,467  He thought they   didn't let him in  298 00:23:47,509 --> 00:23:50,345  because he had like      a kind of knockoff Adidas shoe  299 00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:52,264  with a plane flying in,  300 00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:54,307  that was supposed to   look like the Twin Towers.     301 00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:58,103  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  302 00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:27,716         Denis kind of jumped around     303 00:24:27,757 --> 00:24:30,510     from subculture to subculture     in a way.  304 00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:35,974  He went from rap   to trying to be an MMA fighter.    305 00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:38,977  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  306 00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,980  ♪♪♪  307 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:52,676    Denis challenged   Ismail Cetinkaya.  308 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,553  He sort of     very publicly challenged him.     309 00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:43,268    Fight!  310 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,694    The main guy   in the German context  311 00:27:34,694 --> 00:27:36,446  who was recruiting Germans     312 00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:38,281    to join the Salafist movement,    313 00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:40,200    and many of them went to ISIS,    314 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:42,243  was this guy   called Pierre Vogel,  315 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:44,371  who's a white German guy,      316 00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:46,456  who was a boxing champion.     317 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:51,419  I do think that   there was a correlation  318 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:53,254  between Denis losing  319 00:27:53,296 --> 00:27:55,423  and being humiliated   in that fight,  320 00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:59,219     and then having this meeting      with Pierre Vogel,  321 00:27:59,260 --> 00:28:00,804      where he was given an out.      322 00:28:02,555 --> 00:28:04,849  There's a video of Pierre Vogel    323 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:07,310     where he's sitting with Denis,  324 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:12,023      and it's the video where he      convinces Denis to give up rap.    325 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:29,207       Denis is very humble      and moved.  326 00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:32,210  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  327 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:36,047  ♪♪♪  328 00:29:07,245 --> 00:29:09,122    People thought   it was kind of ridiculous,     329 00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:11,499      but he was serious about it.    330 00:31:25,258 --> 00:31:28,219  ♪ dramatic music plays ♪  331 00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:30,763  ♪♪♪  332 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,810       Do you wanna just      introduce yourself?  333 00:31:35,852 --> 00:31:37,770  Mm-hm.      My name is Souad Mekhennet.      334 00:31:37,812 --> 00:31:39,606  I'm the international   security correspondent  335 00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:41,608  for the  Washington Post.  336 00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:42,984       For nearly 20 years,     337 00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:44,485  journalist Souad Mekhennet     338 00:31:44,527 --> 00:31:46,195  had-- has covered   some of the world's  339 00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:47,947  most dangerous conflicts.      340 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,491  She's gained rare access   to the inner circles  341 00:31:50,533 --> 00:31:53,578      of groups like the Taliban,      Al-Qaeda, and ISIS.  342 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:57,290  In 2015, she co-wrote   the blockbuster  Washington Post    343 00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,793  article that unmasked   ISIS killer Jihadi John  344 00:32:00,793 --> 00:32:03,630  as British citizen,   Mohammed Emwazi.  345 00:32:03,671 --> 00:32:05,423  Her latest book,   recounts some of her  346 00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:07,467  most dangerous   reporting assignments.  347 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,636    The last book   I published is called  348 00:32:09,677 --> 00:32:11,137      I Was Told To Come Alone:  349 00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:12,764  My Journey Behind   the Lines of Jihad,  350 00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:15,850  where I also wrote   about Denis Cuspert.  351 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:20,813  I met Denis Cuspert   before he joined ISIS.  352 00:32:20,855 --> 00:32:24,233  A young imam from Berlin     contacted me one day and said,    353 00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,152      "Souad, there is somebody  354 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,029     who I think you should meet.     355 00:32:28,071 --> 00:32:30,031  He's someone   who comes to my mosque  356 00:32:30,073 --> 00:32:32,116  and I'm a bit   worried about him."  357 00:32:32,158 --> 00:32:33,660  I went to Berlin  358 00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:35,828  and I entered   the office of the imam,  359 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:38,539  and there was this   young man sitting  360 00:32:38,581 --> 00:32:40,333  who then stood up       when I entered the office,      361 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:44,796  which I found very interesting,     to show his respect.  362 00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:48,174      And we greeted each other   in Arabic  363 00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:50,176  with, you know,   As-salamu alaykum,  364 00:32:50,218 --> 00:32:52,887     and that was Denis Cuspert.      365 00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:57,141  We had a very long conversation    366 00:32:57,183 --> 00:32:59,644  where we spoke about   how he felt as a child  367 00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:01,145  growing up with, you know,     368 00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:03,940  a lot of discrimination   and racism.  369 00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:06,734  I could relate to that   a little bit  370 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:08,861  because I grew up   in Germany as well  371 00:33:08,903 --> 00:33:12,156  as the child      of so-called guest workers.      372 00:33:14,283 --> 00:33:17,745  He was looking for   an identity like,  373 00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:21,332     "Who am I? Where do I belong?     Where's my home?"  374 00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:24,419    He felt like somebody who was          really looking for a path,      375 00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:27,171     but he was also looking for      376 00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,966  being able to talk to somebody.    377 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,968      Now, you have to understand,    378 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:33,886  in Germany or in Europe,      379 00:33:33,886 --> 00:33:37,432      very often when young men     want to discuss these things,     380 00:33:37,473 --> 00:33:40,893  imams feel a bit--   they're very careful  381 00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:43,646  about having   such political debates  382 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:46,441  in their mosques   because they are afraid  383 00:33:46,482 --> 00:33:47,900  that the intelligence   services would say,  384 00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:49,444  "Wait a second,   you're allowing these--  385 00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:51,112  this is extremism.  386 00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:53,031  You're allowing people   to talk-- discuss this  387 00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:55,575  and to have       anti-Western views there."      388 00:33:55,616 --> 00:33:59,245  This is where   recruiters understand  389 00:33:59,245 --> 00:34:03,291      they can actually step in   and recruit somebody.  390 00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,586  When I met Cuspert in--   Cuspert in--  391 00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:09,297  at the mosque in Berlin,  392 00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:12,425  he was still somebody   where I felt  393 00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:15,261    there could have been a chance     to not lose him  394 00:34:15,303 --> 00:34:17,180     into the hands of extremism,     395 00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:18,848      but there was no one there      396 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:20,475  who would have     these conversations with him.     397 00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:44,290      A gunman fired shots  398 00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:46,417  at US military personnel       on a bus  399 00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:49,170  outside Frankfurt Airport,      Wednesday.  400 00:34:49,212 --> 00:34:53,174     Two Air Force airmen are dead     and two more wounded.  401 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:56,886       I'm saddened       and I'm outraged by this attack    402 00:34:56,886 --> 00:34:58,304  that took the lives   of two Americans.  403 00:34:58,346 --> 00:34:59,472     I want everybody to understand  404 00:34:59,514 --> 00:35:01,224     that we will spare no effort     405 00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:04,227  in learning how   this outrageous act took place.    406 00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:05,895  And in working   with German authorities  407 00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:08,231  to ensure that   all of the perpetrators  408 00:35:08,272 --> 00:35:09,857  are brought to justice.  409 00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:11,150         US and German officials say     410 00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:12,318      they have a better idea now     411 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,861  who the suspected gunman      412 00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:15,363  Arid Uka might be.  413 00:35:15,404 --> 00:35:17,698  He apparently was       a prolific Facebook poster.     414 00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:19,992  He visited a lot   of Jihadi websites.  415 00:35:20,034 --> 00:35:22,495     When asked about the shooting     of the airmen, he said, simply,    416 00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:24,330  "They're at war with us."      417 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:25,790     Which tells us something about  418 00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:27,625  his mindset   and possible motive.  419 00:35:28,751 --> 00:35:31,587       I learned that there          was an attack in Frankfurt.     420 00:35:31,629 --> 00:35:35,466      I went to see Arid's family      after the attack happened.     421 00:35:35,508 --> 00:35:37,260  I asked them   if they would speak to me,     422 00:35:37,301 --> 00:35:39,178      and they said he was a quiet    423 00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:41,514  but sometimes also   very depressed young man      424 00:35:41,514 --> 00:35:42,932  who had also issues  425 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:44,517  trying to find his way   in the world.  426 00:35:45,685 --> 00:35:47,186  His brother told me,  427 00:35:47,228 --> 00:35:49,814  Arid told him that he was       following on Facebook  428 00:35:49,856 --> 00:35:52,900     somebody who posted a video.     429 00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:55,570  The video showed an Iraqi woman    430 00:35:55,611 --> 00:35:58,197  was raped by US soldiers.      431 00:35:58,197 --> 00:36:00,366    We're searching for evidence.     432 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:01,951  We're looking for, what?  433 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:03,452     Weapons of mass destruction.     434 00:36:03,452 --> 00:36:04,912  You ready? Here you go.  435 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,539  Here you go. Come here, Salazar.  436 00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:08,457  Come here.   Take her fucking hand.  437 00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:13,212    And a message      from the person who posted it,  438 00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:16,007      "We need to defend the honor     of our sisters."  439 00:36:16,048 --> 00:36:16,924  And I asked him,  440 00:36:16,966 --> 00:36:18,509  "Do you remember   who posted the video?  441 00:36:18,551 --> 00:36:20,428  Like, who was the person           your brother was following?"    442 00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:22,972  He said,   "I think it was somebody,      443 00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:25,766  something like Dogg,   Deso, Deso."  444 00:36:25,766 --> 00:36:26,976  And I said, "Deso Dogg?  445 00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,644     You mean the former rapper?"     446 00:36:28,644 --> 00:36:30,980  And he said, "Yes, yes.   He was a former rapper."  447 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:33,024     And I was actually in shock.     448 00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:37,695  We see here   is a video he posted.  449 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,822     This young man, followed him,     watched the video,  450 00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:43,159  and was emotionally   so upset about this,  451 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:44,577  thinking it was reality.  452 00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:46,120     We know now today it wasn't.     453 00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:14,857        I spoke to Cuspert       about it later.  454 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:18,194  I said, "Did you know that      the video was not reality,     455 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,738  that it was actually   from a movie?"  456 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:22,365  And he didn't know that,      457 00:37:22,365 --> 00:37:24,450  but he actually felt  458 00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:27,119  that what Arid Uka did   was right.  459 00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:29,622  And he congratulated   "the brother"  460 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:31,540      as he called him and said,      461 00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:33,668     "Because you know, those--"          he said, "Those servicemen,      462 00:37:33,709 --> 00:37:35,753     they were on their way to--       you know,  463 00:37:35,795 --> 00:37:37,797  they were killing--   they would have killed Muslims,    464 00:37:37,838 --> 00:37:40,424     so they were not innocent."      465 00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:42,927  When the thing   with the video happened,  466 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,303  I understood, "Okay.  467 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:47,014  He actually crossed that bridge    468 00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:48,933  into the extremism."  469 00:37:57,692 --> 00:37:59,151         My name is Kevin Gallagher.     470 00:37:59,151 --> 00:38:01,028  I'm a special agent   with the FBI's  471 00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:02,530  Washington Field Office.      472 00:38:02,571 --> 00:38:03,698  My particular squad  473 00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:05,825  focused primarily on   what we refer to  474 00:38:05,866 --> 00:38:07,326  as terrorist   use of the internet,  475 00:38:07,326 --> 00:38:10,162  which heavily relies   on investigations  476 00:38:10,162 --> 00:38:12,206  into terrorist   media organizations  477 00:38:12,248 --> 00:38:13,791  and their radicalization   and recruitment  478 00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:15,251  of people in the United States.    479 00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,129  Denis Cuspert was an individual    480 00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:20,506  who I was aware of   probably in about 2011,  481 00:38:20,548 --> 00:38:22,508  2012 timeframe.  482 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:23,801  Yes, he was a terrorist,      483 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:25,636  but he was also   a cult of personality.  484 00:38:25,678 --> 00:38:27,680  This is an individual   who's had contact  485 00:38:27,722 --> 00:38:29,015  with, you know,   American rappers.  486 00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:30,683  The types of rappers      that I grew up in high school    487 00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:32,560  and college listening to.      488 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,854     The FBI is interested in--     489 00:38:34,854 --> 00:38:36,897     what are his communications      490 00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:38,691  with people   in the United States?  491 00:38:38,691 --> 00:38:41,694     Does he have followers here      492 00:38:41,694 --> 00:38:43,779  who might have   a sleeper cell here?  493 00:38:59,211 --> 00:39:01,380    At the FBI,   we broke up the world  494 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:04,425  into various areas   of responsibility.  495 00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:08,179  The German language   radicalization movement  496 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:09,722      was one of those efforts,  497 00:39:09,764 --> 00:39:12,350  and that is why   the Detroit Field Office  498 00:39:12,391 --> 00:39:15,186  had the investigation   of Denis Cuspert.  499 00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:24,111      Daniela Greene was assigned          to the Detroit Field office     500 00:39:24,153 --> 00:39:26,530  as a contract linguist.  501 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:30,826  Her job was to accurately       translate information  502 00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,287  as it was recovered   related to communications      503 00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:34,538     that Denis Cuspert was having,  504 00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:35,956  not only with people   in the United States,  505 00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,958  but all across the world.      506 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,711  In the FBI,       our translators' perspective    507 00:39:40,711 --> 00:39:42,838  and their professional opinions     is highly important  508 00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:44,131  to the investigative team.     509 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:47,259  So she was part       of that investigative team,     510 00:39:47,301 --> 00:39:49,637  and her information   and her input was vital  511 00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:52,223  to tracking Denis Cuspert.     512 00:39:52,223 --> 00:39:54,934    Tracking is just   following their online chatter,    513 00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:56,602  looking at their   propaganda releases  514 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,229  in various online spaces,      515 00:39:58,270 --> 00:39:59,605  and also just observing,      516 00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,649  kind of just being   like a fly on the wall.  517 00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:04,402      She was assigned to the case     involving Deso Dogg.  518 00:40:04,443 --> 00:40:06,987  Her goal was to lure him       out of Syria into Turkey      519 00:40:07,029 --> 00:40:08,823  so he would be   subject to arrest.  520 00:40:08,864 --> 00:40:11,200      But I have seen situations       in ISIS chat rooms  521 00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:13,702  where individuals seem       to begin to very strongly  522 00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:15,579  emotionally bond   with one another.  523 00:40:15,621 --> 00:40:17,706  And it does recall   more normal circumstances      524 00:40:17,706 --> 00:40:18,916  like online dating.  525 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,545  I have seen that type   of relationship  526 00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,255  resulting in people   being willing  527 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:26,507  to make really bad,   awful decisions  528 00:40:26,549 --> 00:40:30,136  because of the social bond      that they create online.      529 00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:41,772         I've seen the tabloids that     530 00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:44,316  lend to Daniela Greene   being a honeypot.  531 00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:46,444  That couldn't be   further from the truth.  532 00:40:48,028 --> 00:40:51,240      To say that Daniela      was not a traditional  533 00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:54,076  honeypot operation   is very true.  534 00:40:55,202 --> 00:40:57,371  But the reality is,  535 00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,999    I think it was very deliberate    536 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,209  to use Daniela  537 00:41:02,251 --> 00:41:04,378  to communicate   with Denis Cuspert.  538 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:07,089  When people are running   intelligence operations,  539 00:41:07,089 --> 00:41:08,674    they're always thinking about     540 00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:10,676  what is gonna be   the best tactic.  541 00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:14,346  And I think that   in this particular case,  542 00:41:14,346 --> 00:41:17,349  they recognized   that maybe Denis Cuspert  543 00:41:17,391 --> 00:41:19,560      had a weakness for women.  544 00:41:19,602 --> 00:41:22,521  ♪ upbeat music plays ♪  545 00:41:22,563 --> 00:41:26,275  ♪♪♪  546 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:28,360        He's likely to respond to her    547 00:41:28,402 --> 00:41:30,362  and wanna chat with her,       and Skype with her,  548 00:41:30,404 --> 00:41:32,990      and maybe send her pictures      and tell her secrets.  549 00:41:33,032 --> 00:41:35,367  He's not gonna do that   with a dude.  550 00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:36,785  It's just human nature.  551 00:41:38,412 --> 00:41:40,748  Everybody conducts   honeypot operations.  552 00:41:40,789 --> 00:41:43,250  The FBI, the CIA,  553 00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:45,753  the Russian Intelligence   Services, the Mossad.  554 00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:48,547  Now, I should be clear       about that, because the--  555 00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:51,926    often, there's confusion about       what a honeypot operation is.     556 00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:55,888      A honeypot operation is one     557 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:59,308  where typically a woman  558 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,477  targets a man,  559 00:42:02,770 --> 00:42:06,899  plays upon   his male vulnerabilities,      560 00:42:06,899 --> 00:42:08,692     flirts with him, seduces him.    561 00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:10,069   ♪  With nothing   but a piece of rope  ♪  562 00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:13,113    And gets him   to tell her secrets.  563 00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:16,825     ♪  Dreaming every night of you  ♪    564 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:19,787        As an operative,       it was easy for me  565 00:42:19,828 --> 00:42:22,540  to go up and talk   to a foreign man  566 00:42:22,581 --> 00:42:24,708  and to express interest.      567 00:42:26,418 --> 00:42:29,922  It is strictly forbidden          for CIA officers or FBI agents  568 00:42:29,964 --> 00:42:33,050     to have romantic relationships   with their targets.  569 00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,010  But that does happen.  570 00:42:35,052 --> 00:42:36,428  It's happened   throughout history.  571 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:38,180  This was not   the first time it happened     572 00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:39,974  and it certainly   won't be the last.  573 00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:49,108  But we have       to keep in mind that Daniela    574 00:42:49,149 --> 00:42:52,903  was not a trained   CIA operative,  575 00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:54,613  not a trained recruiter,      576 00:42:54,655 --> 00:42:56,824  nor was she   a trained FBI agent.  577 00:42:56,865 --> 00:43:00,953  She was really      conscripted as a translator.     578 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:02,496  This is an FBI   contract employee  579 00:43:02,496 --> 00:43:04,123  with a top secret   security clearance.  580 00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:06,834  There's a lot of trust   that the government puts  581 00:43:06,834 --> 00:43:08,544     in the people that it hires.     582 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:10,879  These individuals   are granted access  583 00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:14,800      to some of the United States        government's biggest secrets.    584 00:43:14,842 --> 00:43:18,178  What is always the risk   in that case  585 00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:21,056     is that there's going to be       some real romance  586 00:43:21,098 --> 00:43:22,558  that emerges from that.  587 00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:25,644      So the investigative team  588 00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:27,646  was aware of two Skype accounts    589 00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:31,108  that were being utilized   by Denis Cuspert  590 00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:33,944  to communicate   with his associates.  591 00:43:33,986 --> 00:43:37,740  Daniela Greene     created a third Skype account     592 00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:40,951     and had direct communication      with Denis Cuspert  593 00:43:40,993 --> 00:43:42,494  that was unknown       to the investigative team  594 00:43:42,536 --> 00:43:43,996  and that's where   she went off the rails.  595 00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:45,205  It's probably...  596 00:43:48,042 --> 00:43:50,294  the most concerning part   of that case  597 00:43:50,336 --> 00:43:54,757    is how do we defend ourselves      from our own?  598 00:44:07,269 --> 00:44:09,188    You know, other aspects       to think about in this case,    599 00:44:09,229 --> 00:44:11,190  her marriage   to her first husband  600 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,317     who was a US military officer.  601 00:44:15,736 --> 00:44:18,322  How does someone   go from an FBI linguist,      602 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:20,866  to a military wife,  603 00:44:20,908 --> 00:44:22,951  to joining a foreign   terrorist organization?  604 00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:24,662  That's a hell       of a radicalization path.  605 00:44:31,752 --> 00:44:33,504       I first met Daniela       when she was a student  606 00:44:33,545 --> 00:44:36,090  here at Cameron   in Lawton, Oklahoma.  607 00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:41,679     She was extremely intelligent,   a hard-worker,  608 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,890  and kinda quiet   and very attractive,  609 00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:46,767  which I normally   wouldn't mention,  610 00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:48,977  but I think, you know,   she seemed out of  --  611 00:44:48,977 --> 00:44:51,063  this guy   that she hooked up with,      612 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:53,315     she was way out of his league.  613 00:44:54,274 --> 00:44:56,819      I'm an Air Force wife.    614 00:44:56,819 --> 00:44:59,196        And Daniela was an army wife.    615 00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:03,659  She is married       to my brother-in-law, Matt.     616 00:45:05,577 --> 00:45:08,414  Being married      to a military man, in my view,  617 00:45:08,455 --> 00:45:10,416  that's like an honor,   you know?  618 00:45:10,457 --> 00:45:13,252  Matthew got married   to Daniela,  619 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:16,839  who was from Germany,      because Matthew was stationed    620 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,968  over in Germany,   in the army at the time.      621 00:45:21,009 --> 00:45:24,221        Got this American      soldier stationed in Germany,    622 00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:28,350  meets a German girl,       and I hope it was true love,    623 00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:31,395  but he must've been   her ticket out of Germany.     624 00:45:31,437 --> 00:45:33,772  And I don't mean to be       critical or negative of him.    625 00:45:33,814 --> 00:45:35,441  That was just   an impression I had.  626 00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:39,778  She's young   but she's already married.     627 00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:41,447      She's not from around here.     628 00:45:41,488 --> 00:45:43,449  So she gets here   not knowing anyone.  629 00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,119    I'm sure   it was still hard on her,      630 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,288      for her to leave her family.    631 00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:52,291  The military life   for the wife, you know,  632 00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:54,001      it's not an easy lifestyle.     633 00:45:54,042 --> 00:45:56,462      Not everybody can handle it.    634 00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:00,132        I met Matt when she graduated.  635 00:46:00,174 --> 00:46:01,842  It didn't seem   like a happy couple.  636 00:46:03,886 --> 00:46:05,387  There was kind of   a sadness about her.  637 00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:07,848      She just didn't seem happy.     638 00:46:09,516 --> 00:46:11,643      We didn't know what happened     to her after that.  639 00:46:11,643 --> 00:46:13,812  And, of course,   we found out later  640 00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:16,148     she'd gotten hired by the FBI.  641 00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:18,317  I don't think they cared       about her master's degree.     642 00:46:18,358 --> 00:46:20,319  They liked the fact      that she was fluent in German.  643 00:46:23,405 --> 00:46:26,784       They had her talking      to this recruiter of ISIS.     644 00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:30,287      And with her talking to him,         I think she may have started    645 00:46:30,329 --> 00:46:31,705  getting feelings for him.      646 00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:34,249  Because that happens   to people, you know?  647 00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:35,751  When you talk   to people online,  648 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:37,461  you hear about it   all the time.  649 00:46:37,503 --> 00:46:39,171  I don't know   if she's having problems      650 00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:41,173  with my brother-in-law,  651 00:46:41,215 --> 00:46:43,550  but I think just with her       talking to him,  652 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:46,053  she may have seen him   in a different light  653 00:46:46,094 --> 00:46:48,138  than what we see him.  654 00:46:50,682 --> 00:46:55,187      I would never have imagined         her doing something like this.  655 00:46:57,231 --> 00:46:59,483  I think she's a traitor   to our country.  656 00:47:17,793 --> 00:47:20,629    After the terror attack     in Frankfurt,  657 00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:22,548  Denis took part   in a demonstration  658 00:47:22,548 --> 00:47:25,676      against the Danish cartoons.    659 00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:28,679  Demonstrations that got violent.  660 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,181  And a policeman   was stabbed there.  661 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:35,769      But it's a very well-filmed     662 00:47:35,811 --> 00:47:39,022  and well-produced video.      663 00:47:39,064 --> 00:47:41,733  And Denis is sort   of like the star of it.  664 00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:54,037    That was the last thing     that happened.  665 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:55,539  And because a policeman   was injured,  666 00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:58,000  he disappeared then.  667 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,877     One of the interesting aspects  668 00:47:59,918 --> 00:48:04,756      of the German state's role       in ISIS  669 00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:08,927     is that German intelligence          encouraged German Salafists      670 00:48:08,969 --> 00:48:10,762     to go to Syria for a while.      671 00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:13,265  They encouraged   and they facilitated it.  672 00:48:14,474 --> 00:48:15,893  So they encouraged people       to leave,  673 00:48:15,934 --> 00:48:18,604     sort of to export the problem     of these people  674 00:48:18,645 --> 00:48:19,938      like, "Oh, they're gone now.    675 00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,773  Let them terrorize people       somewhere else."  676 00:48:23,108 --> 00:48:26,486  And he, in fact,   resurfaced in Syria.  677 00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:30,490  Which was, I think,   surprised a lot of people      678 00:48:30,532 --> 00:48:33,994  because he'd always   basically been in Berlin.      679 00:48:34,036 --> 00:48:36,455      He was this boy from Berlin,     this guy from Berlin  680 00:48:36,496 --> 00:48:38,248  who we've all known about      681 00:48:38,290 --> 00:48:40,250     through these various episodes   of his life.  682 00:48:48,926 --> 00:48:50,469       When he joined ISIS,     683 00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:52,262  they wanted you   to do something.  684 00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:54,222  You could either   be a soldier  685 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:58,018  or you became a member   of the propaganda team.  686 00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:01,355  He became a member   of the propaganda team.  687 00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:04,608        Denis Cuspert   becomes one of the most  688 00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:08,654      prominent ISIS influencers.     689 00:49:08,695 --> 00:49:10,656  But something   happened over time.  690 00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:12,366  The propagandists of ISIS      691 00:49:12,407 --> 00:49:14,701  were deeply   influenced by Hollywood.  692 00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:19,206  Isis had been producing   these videos  693 00:49:19,247 --> 00:49:20,457  terrifying people.  694 00:49:24,586 --> 00:49:28,256  Their videos      got more and more extravagant,  695 00:49:28,298 --> 00:49:30,592  better production values.      696 00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:33,261  You see a kind   of cinematic creativity.      697 00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:42,020    What ISIS did      was a totally different level.  698 00:49:42,062 --> 00:49:44,898     I mean, ISIS created videos      699 00:49:44,898 --> 00:49:46,608  that really looked like  700 00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,652  professionally-made   Hollywood movies.  701 00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,038       ISIS has released      a new propaganda video.  702 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,874       This new and very      glossy recruitment video      703 00:50:02,916 --> 00:50:04,626  which looks   professionally shot  704 00:50:04,668 --> 00:50:07,379  and edited as though ISIS       were taking cues  705 00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:10,173  from Hollywood films   such as  Zero Dark Thirty      706 00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:13,343  and  The Hurt Locker   to maximize the terror.  707 00:50:13,385 --> 00:50:17,055      ISIS' media production     facilities  708 00:50:17,097 --> 00:50:19,057  take a direct cue       from what has been going on     709 00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:20,600  in the United States   for a long time.  710 00:50:20,642 --> 00:50:22,060  They've watched   all the war movies.  711 00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:23,687  They view the military   entertainment complex  712 00:50:23,687 --> 00:50:26,732  as kind of the tail end   or the final maturation  713 00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:29,943  of what scholars call      "the mediatization of war."      714 00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:34,948        The US government   is into our media sphere      715 00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:36,283  in every possible way.  716 00:50:36,324 --> 00:50:38,785  The DOD, in 1949, set up      717 00:50:38,827 --> 00:50:41,580  the Entertainment Media   Production Office.  718 00:50:41,621 --> 00:50:44,249    And if you wanna make a movie      that involves military equipment  719 00:50:44,249 --> 00:50:46,293      or personnel, there's only       one place to get it.  720 00:50:47,169 --> 00:50:49,588       You have to hand in       your script.  721 00:50:49,629 --> 00:50:51,381  Have them look it over.   Review it.  722 00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:55,510  And the Pentagon responds           with script change requests.    723 00:50:55,927 --> 00:50:58,680  You make those changes   and you get  724 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,558    a sort of clean bill of health     from the military  725 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,310  and you get access   to the stuff.  726 00:51:03,351 --> 00:51:05,520  And that's the core   of this relationship.  727 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,898  But, you know,      this is sort of industry-wide.  728 00:51:08,315 --> 00:51:10,192  Really,       when we started digging in,     729 00:51:10,233 --> 00:51:12,819  we had to make official     requests to the US government.    730 00:51:12,861 --> 00:51:15,489  You do this through   the Freedom of Information Act.    731 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:17,574  And so we started      doing this by the hundreds.      732 00:51:17,616 --> 00:51:20,243  It's happened,   by our account,  733 00:51:20,285 --> 00:51:23,205  2,500 to 3,000 times   that we can confirm.  734 00:51:23,246 --> 00:51:25,624  My expectation was it's      gonna be a bunch of war films.  735 00:51:25,665 --> 00:51:28,043  And it's not. Maybe 10%.      736 00:51:28,085 --> 00:51:29,669  Pitch Perfect 3,  737 00:51:29,669 --> 00:51:31,755  the military   gave them access to bases      738 00:51:31,797 --> 00:51:33,465  and access to troops  739 00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:35,133  and pretty much gave them       the whole set.  740 00:51:35,133 --> 00:51:37,636     The military went into sci-fi.  741 00:51:37,677 --> 00:51:41,681  So you see a lot   of  Transformers  and  Iron Man.      742 00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:43,767  There are, you know,      some hardcore representations    743 00:51:43,809 --> 00:51:47,437  in  Iron Man   of Afghani terrorists  744 00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:48,939     who are antagonizing  Iron Man    745 00:51:48,980 --> 00:51:50,857  and killing children   and things like that,  746 00:51:50,857 --> 00:51:53,944  that are,   you know, DOD-sponsored.      747 00:51:53,985 --> 00:51:56,279  Iron Man  and  Transformers           become this way of talking      748 00:51:56,321 --> 00:51:58,865  about the war, but not   really being a war movie.      749 00:51:58,907 --> 00:51:59,950  My turn.  750 00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:04,871        There's an entire   apparatus at work.  751 00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:07,499  Not just one individual   pulling the strings,  752 00:52:07,541 --> 00:52:11,795  an interaction between two      large institutions.  753 00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:13,171  You know,      Hollywood's driven by money      754 00:52:13,171 --> 00:52:14,673  and they want   the biggest bang for their buck,  755 00:52:14,714 --> 00:52:16,842  and obviously, they're gonna go     for this relationship.  756 00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:19,469    And the US government is in it    757 00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:22,514  to fill the recruitment quotas.    758 00:52:23,306 --> 00:52:25,851  The military   entertainment complex  759 00:52:25,892 --> 00:52:28,812  is going to wanna   maximize recruitment.  760 00:52:28,854 --> 00:52:30,188    Top Gun  is a good place to go     761 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:31,982  if you wanna talk   about recruitment.  762 00:52:32,023 --> 00:52:33,984  Top Gun  completely   turned the set of images      763 00:52:34,025 --> 00:52:35,944  about what the military is      on its head.  764 00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:38,530  You know, it's not wading       through the jungle muck  765 00:52:38,572 --> 00:52:39,906     and watching your friend die.    766 00:52:39,948 --> 00:52:41,575  It's about being encased      767 00:52:41,575 --> 00:52:43,410  in this high-tech   tube of steel  768 00:52:43,451 --> 00:52:45,203  and rocketing   through the atmosphere  769 00:52:45,203 --> 00:52:47,164     and high-fiving your friends.    770 00:52:48,623 --> 00:52:53,086  And ISIS' very powerful       and high-production value...    771 00:52:54,462 --> 00:52:56,256  image making factory,  772 00:52:56,298 --> 00:52:58,049  they very well understand that,     you know,  773 00:52:58,091 --> 00:53:00,886  this empire over here     is doing that very, very well.    774 00:53:00,927 --> 00:53:02,888  Our little empire   might try to, you know,  775 00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:05,348  take a cue from them   and try it as well.  776 00:53:05,390 --> 00:53:09,060  ISIS' military equipment,       it's not F-22s,  777 00:53:09,102 --> 00:53:12,105  it's little white pickups       with a bunch of AK-47s.  778 00:53:12,147 --> 00:53:13,565  But they've got stuff.  779 00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:15,859  They're using   established genres,  780 00:53:15,901 --> 00:53:18,153  they're using   established storylines.  781 00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:20,739    Even though       they were against the West,     782 00:53:20,780 --> 00:53:22,490  they were, in many ways,      783 00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:26,953    deeply influenced by the West.    784 00:53:26,953 --> 00:53:29,915  So you'll see      an ISIS video, if you look at,  785 00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:31,791  like, there's a bunch of horses,  786 00:53:31,791 --> 00:53:35,003      and you slow the video down      and you broaden up,  787 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:38,089  and you see that they're       the Riders of Rohan  788 00:53:38,131 --> 00:53:39,549  from  Lord of the Rings.  789 00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:43,470  Almost you can say   that they were fans.  790 00:53:45,764 --> 00:53:49,017  You can say       they're wannabe Tarantinos,     791 00:53:49,059 --> 00:53:51,603  taking this all in,  792 00:53:51,645 --> 00:53:53,605      having it influence them,  793 00:53:53,605 --> 00:53:55,190  and then wanting   to put it back  794 00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,567  in their own variation  795 00:53:57,609 --> 00:53:59,945  of what they were taking       from the West.  796 00:53:59,986 --> 00:54:03,615      But obviously, doing things      that Hollywood can't do,      797 00:54:03,657 --> 00:54:06,034  which is actually   killing people on-screen.      798 00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:15,794    I spoke to one   of the people who--  799 00:54:15,835 --> 00:54:17,629  he was responsible   for ISIS' media.  800 00:54:17,671 --> 00:54:20,090  He said sometimes,   when they were planning  801 00:54:20,131 --> 00:54:22,759  a beheading, and I'm sorry          I have to speak about this,     802 00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:24,135  but I mean, it was unbelievable    803 00:54:24,177 --> 00:54:27,389  that even when they had planned     a beheading,  804 00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:29,766  they would bring in   the camera team.  805 00:54:29,808 --> 00:54:32,852  And the camera team,   while this person was kneeling,    806 00:54:32,894 --> 00:54:36,481     while this man was kneeling       in front of the person  807 00:54:36,481 --> 00:54:39,526  who was supposed to behead him,         they would tell this guy,  808 00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:41,361  "Okay. You have to hold   the knife this way.  809 00:54:41,403 --> 00:54:44,239  You have to, you know,   wait, turn this way  810 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,283      because the sun is better,       the lighting is there."  811 00:55:01,047 --> 00:55:03,633      ISIS propaganda films      evolved to a place  812 00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:06,553  where they had a story   and a plot.  813 00:55:10,432 --> 00:55:12,517  In some films,   they would force their captives    814 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,855  to be actors. They would       perform reenactments.  815 00:55:23,403 --> 00:55:25,405  And the prisoners would   play themselves  816 00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:28,325      right up to their execution.    817 00:55:39,377 --> 00:55:41,713     ISIS realized that  818 00:55:41,755 --> 00:55:44,424  "media is more than   half the battle."  819 00:55:44,466 --> 00:55:47,052  You have   these incredible videos  820 00:55:47,093 --> 00:55:51,139  released before   the fall of Mosul.  821 00:55:51,181 --> 00:55:55,185      You could say an extensive       propaganda campaign,  822 00:55:55,226 --> 00:55:58,897  kind of information   operations by ISIS,  823 00:55:58,938 --> 00:56:00,523  to prepare the ground  824 00:56:00,565 --> 00:56:02,567  for the taking   of the city of Mosul.  825 00:56:02,609 --> 00:56:04,778  And we know   for example that the ISIS force    826 00:56:04,819 --> 00:56:09,366  that took Mosul was outnumbered     ten to one or more.  827 00:56:10,909 --> 00:56:13,370  They just melted away  828 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,246  in terror that these guys       were in the city  829 00:56:15,288 --> 00:56:16,998  and that they were coming       to get them.  830 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,275        The ISIS propaganda apparatus    831 00:56:44,275 --> 00:56:47,654  saw that you wanted   not one approach,  832 00:56:47,695 --> 00:56:49,364  but many approaches.  833 00:56:50,156 --> 00:56:52,617      So, you know, for example,           we in the West often focus      834 00:56:52,659 --> 00:56:54,285      on "the slaughter videos"  835 00:56:54,327 --> 00:56:56,621  and those certainly   got a lot of eyeballs,  836 00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:59,124  a lot of attention,   a lot of controversy.  837 00:56:59,165 --> 00:57:00,625  But actually,   the slaughter videos  838 00:57:00,667 --> 00:57:03,294  are only a small part   of what ISIS produced.  839 00:57:03,336 --> 00:57:05,505  ISIS produced     lots of other types of videos.    840 00:57:10,718 --> 00:57:12,762         The utopian version of ISIS,    841 00:57:12,804 --> 00:57:14,806  the version they put   on their propaganda  842 00:57:14,848 --> 00:57:16,349  and things like that,   is they're basically  843 00:57:16,391 --> 00:57:18,977      pitching an American dream,      ISIS version.  844 00:57:19,018 --> 00:57:21,229  We'll give you a white      picket fence and the house,      845 00:57:21,271 --> 00:57:22,647  and we'll build   this great society.  846 00:57:23,148 --> 00:57:26,776      Fifty-three thousand     men, women, and children      847 00:57:26,818 --> 00:57:29,946  joined the Islamic State       from over 80 countries.  848 00:57:29,988 --> 00:57:31,030  That's a big number.  849 00:57:32,532 --> 00:57:33,825        ISIS' real goal  850 00:57:33,867 --> 00:57:35,618  was this state-building   project.  851 00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:40,039      They took over large swaths      of territory  852 00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:41,499  in Syria and Iraq.  853 00:57:43,835 --> 00:57:46,171  A lot of their propaganda       that they were doing,  854 00:57:46,212 --> 00:57:47,964  their videos,   their magazines,  855 00:57:48,006 --> 00:57:50,383      was a lot of state-building      propaganda.  856 00:57:50,425 --> 00:57:53,887  They collected taxes,   they ran the police force.     857 00:57:56,931 --> 00:57:58,349     Come to Syria and Iraq,  858 00:57:58,391 --> 00:57:59,767      we're gonna build a society     859 00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:01,811  and we need you to join.      860 00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:03,688  And you had   these charismatic leaders.     861 00:58:03,688 --> 00:58:05,148  Denis is a great example   of that.  862 00:58:14,699 --> 00:58:16,826    I don't know      what was going on in her head.  863 00:58:16,868 --> 00:58:19,037  I don't know   if it was part of her job      864 00:58:19,078 --> 00:58:20,955  to pretend   that she was interested  865 00:58:20,997 --> 00:58:24,042     in that part of the messaging     of the caliphate.  866 00:58:24,083 --> 00:58:25,418      It was definitely something     867 00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:27,295      Daniela was fascinated by,      868 00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:29,339      how equal everything was.  869 00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:30,757  That's what I was told  870 00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,800  by somebody   who was close to her.  871 00:58:35,303 --> 00:58:38,097    Daniela Greene   knew what ISIS was.  872 00:58:38,139 --> 00:58:40,391  She knew what ISIS   was trying to achieve  873 00:58:40,391 --> 00:58:42,185  and perhaps   part of it had to do  874 00:58:42,185 --> 00:58:44,229  with her relationship   with Denis Cuspert  875 00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:47,398  and her   wanting to explore that.      876 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,025  But there's wanting   to explore that,  877 00:58:49,067 --> 00:58:51,069  and there's wanting   to travel to Syria  878 00:58:51,110 --> 00:58:53,488      to join the Islamic State     to explore that with someone.     879 00:59:07,252 --> 00:59:10,421    June 11, 2014,   Greene told her supervisor     880 00:59:10,463 --> 00:59:12,257  her intentions   to travel to Germany  881 00:59:12,298 --> 00:59:14,884  to visit her mother.  882 00:59:14,926 --> 00:59:17,262      There's a normal form     that the FBI requires  883 00:59:17,303 --> 00:59:18,638  everyone who's traveling           with a top secret clearance     884 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,889  to fill out.  885 00:59:19,889 --> 00:59:21,808  She fills out the form,     says she's gonna go to Germany    886 00:59:21,849 --> 00:59:23,893  to see her family,   and clearly doesn't.  887 00:59:33,403 --> 00:59:35,446    Daniela Greene   fell for him  888 00:59:35,446 --> 00:59:38,116  and really wanted to go   and live there in Syria.      889 00:59:38,157 --> 00:59:42,161  The FBI had not realized       that she had gone rogue.      890 00:59:42,203 --> 00:59:44,831  I was at home     with my family and I received     891 00:59:44,872 --> 00:59:47,792  a phone call   from my supervisor at the time.    892 00:59:47,792 --> 00:59:49,919  He informed me   that Daniela Greene  893 00:59:49,919 --> 00:59:51,921      had never had any intention      to travel to Germany,  894 00:59:51,963 --> 00:59:53,756  but in fact   to travel to Syria.  895 00:59:53,798 --> 00:59:55,550  So at the time     we started the investigation,     896 00:59:55,550 --> 00:59:57,677     we didn't really understand       why she left.  897 00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:59,804  When the investigation   really got into it  898 00:59:59,804 --> 01:00:02,849      and we were able to review       the Skype conversations  899 01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:04,559  that she was having   with Denis Cuspert,  900 01:00:04,601 --> 01:00:06,811  what we saw was not just   the communications  901 01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:09,147  between one individual   and a terrorist,  902 01:00:09,188 --> 01:00:12,108     but the communications between   Daniela and another human.     903 01:00:12,108 --> 01:00:13,985  There were pet names   that were provided  904 01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:15,945  to one another   throughout these conversations.    905 01:00:15,987 --> 01:00:19,157  We don't know if she was, like,         genuinely in love with him      906 01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:22,785  or just kind   of lost and decided  907 01:00:22,785 --> 01:00:24,954  that she would   take certain risks.  908 01:00:24,996 --> 01:00:30,001  And maybe   she was a rogue agent  909 01:00:30,043 --> 01:00:32,462      who thought she was gonna   get a promotion  910 01:00:32,462 --> 01:00:35,506  for doing really dangerous work    911 01:00:35,548 --> 01:00:37,842  of being a honey trap.  912 01:00:37,884 --> 01:00:41,846      At that time when Daniela      went to meet Denis in Syria,     913 01:00:41,846 --> 01:00:45,475     Turkey was the obvious place      to go as a conduit.  914 01:00:45,516 --> 01:00:47,352      You get to Istanbul,     915 01:00:47,393 --> 01:00:49,354  you go down   to the border towns,  916 01:00:49,395 --> 01:00:51,606  you kind of wait     until someone vouches for you.    917 01:00:52,857 --> 01:00:54,359  In this case,   she already had an in.  918 01:00:54,359 --> 01:00:56,027  She had Denis   to vouch for her.  919 01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:57,278     So that pulls a lot of weight.  920 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,322      And so instead of waiting   weeks at a time,  921 01:00:59,364 --> 01:01:00,990  which we saw a number of cases,    922 01:01:01,032 --> 01:01:02,367  you know, she was able   to cross very quickly.  923 01:01:03,576 --> 01:01:06,079  Daniela Greene   traveled over to Syria  924 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,998      and married Denis Cuspert   within a matter of days.  925 01:01:19,008 --> 01:01:22,637       Daniela came to Syria       the same day I arrived.  926 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:24,305  My name is Kim  927 01:01:24,305 --> 01:01:26,182  and I went to Syria  928 01:01:26,224 --> 01:01:30,061  from 2014 until 2020.  929 01:01:30,061 --> 01:01:33,523      And I just got out of jail       in August--  930 01:01:33,564 --> 01:01:35,692      the 1st August, this year.      931 01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:42,490  The first time I met Deso,      so it was here in Germany.     932 01:01:43,741 --> 01:01:46,661  He was handsome      and the people knew about him,  933 01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:48,705  everybody knew about him.      934 01:01:48,746 --> 01:01:51,958  I didn't see it like,   "Oh, I know Deso Dogg.  935 01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:53,334  I talked with him."  936 01:01:53,334 --> 01:01:55,086  So I was not like,   "Oh, my God.  937 01:01:55,128 --> 01:01:56,963  Deso Dogg is in town..."  938 01:01:57,004 --> 01:02:01,718  Throwing my bra at him.   No.  939 01:02:01,759 --> 01:02:04,095  But the men were,   like, groupies on him.  940 01:02:04,137 --> 01:02:06,305  It was very weird.  941 01:02:06,347 --> 01:02:07,432  I don't know why.  942 01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:14,397     I was over there in ISIS area    943 01:02:14,439 --> 01:02:18,067  with my ex-husband   because... problems in Germany.    944 01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:23,239  Here, we have only a lot           of problems and shit around,    945 01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:25,783  and the people   called my ex-husband also      946 01:02:25,825 --> 01:02:28,494  and told him,   "It's great here.  947 01:02:28,536 --> 01:02:30,288  Come over.   You'll get houses  948 01:02:30,288 --> 01:02:32,290     and everything will be fine."    949 01:02:32,331 --> 01:02:35,126  They talked about it like           it's a fairytale over there,    950 01:02:35,168 --> 01:02:38,463  so it made   the decision very easy.  951 01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:48,473  And it wasn't--   it wasn't the real life.  952 01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:52,477    So when I arrived over there,      I was completely shocked  953 01:02:52,518 --> 01:02:54,353     because it wasn't like this.     954 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,356  The foreign people,  955 01:02:57,398 --> 01:02:59,984  they were more harsh   than Arabic people.  956 01:02:59,984 --> 01:03:01,986  German people,  957 01:03:02,028 --> 01:03:05,448  yes, they were very harsh       to the  --  958 01:03:05,490 --> 01:03:07,950  to the local people.  959 01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:11,120  They were weird people   with not a lot of friends.     960 01:03:12,497 --> 01:03:16,167      In Syria, they got power.  961 01:03:18,377 --> 01:03:20,129  In the beginning   when I met Daniela,  962 01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:23,090  she seemed like   a nice, polite person,  963 01:03:23,132 --> 01:03:25,301  very quiet and calm.  964 01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:27,637      But also a little bit weird     965 01:03:27,678 --> 01:03:32,183  because I asked her      about how long she is in Islam  966 01:03:32,225 --> 01:03:35,061    and she said, "Not that long.        Maybe few weeks, few months."     967 01:03:35,102 --> 01:03:37,355  And she doesn't know   how to pray.  968 01:03:37,396 --> 01:03:41,734  Daniela, she was doing   a lot of stupid shit, dumb shit,  969 01:03:41,734 --> 01:03:46,113  and she was       putting her ass in danger.      970 01:03:47,740 --> 01:03:50,368      ISIS was at the height     of its power  971 01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:53,204  when Daniela Greene   showed up in Syria  972 01:03:53,246 --> 01:03:55,206  to marry Denis.  973 01:03:55,248 --> 01:03:58,668  But it's not like   a stable environment  974 01:03:58,709 --> 01:04:01,379  to have a honeymoon   with your boyfriend.  975 01:04:01,420 --> 01:04:03,840  People like Denis   were going back and forth      976 01:04:03,881 --> 01:04:07,760  between the front in Iraq       and then back to Syria.  977 01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:10,137  And so she's left       with a bunch of other women     978 01:04:10,179 --> 01:04:13,015  who aren't particularly   well-inclined toward her  979 01:04:13,057 --> 01:04:15,852  because she's sketchy.  980 01:04:15,893 --> 01:04:17,854    She wanted to know   everything about everybody     981 01:04:17,895 --> 01:04:20,022  and she was checking   on the window.  982 01:04:20,064 --> 01:04:22,358  She was looking   inside of the room,  983 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,821    in the cupboards, and she was,     like, spying around.  984 01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:28,906     It got very dangerous for her.  985 01:04:28,906 --> 01:04:32,702  I don't understand why she          put herself in more trouble.    986 01:06:22,311 --> 01:06:26,148    He helped her      because I think he didn't want  987 01:06:26,190 --> 01:06:28,776  to get her killed   if ISIS catches her.  988 01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:33,447         The fact that Daniela Greene    989 01:06:33,489 --> 01:06:37,868  was able to leave   is very, very interesting.     990 01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:40,871  If the version   of what the people  991 01:06:40,871 --> 01:06:44,041  who were close to him--  992 01:06:44,083 --> 01:06:45,751      what they told me is true,      993 01:06:45,793 --> 01:06:47,545      he was able to get her out      994 01:06:47,545 --> 01:06:49,964      even though so many people       were suspicious of her.  995 01:06:49,964 --> 01:06:52,466     People say that he loved her      as well,  996 01:06:52,466 --> 01:06:56,929  which is why after       she told him, supposedly,  997 01:06:56,929 --> 01:07:00,307     that she worked for the FBI,          he still allowed her to--  998 01:07:00,307 --> 01:07:02,727     or helped her to-- to return     999 01:07:02,768 --> 01:07:05,187  to Turkey--   to cross into Turkey  1000 01:07:05,229 --> 01:07:06,939      because he didn't want her       to get killed.  1001 01:07:14,447 --> 01:07:16,490         My name is Volkmar Kabisch.     1002 01:07:16,532 --> 01:07:19,827      I am working for the German      public broadcaster, NDR,      1003 01:07:19,869 --> 01:07:22,288  and I was quite often   in Syria, Iraq  1004 01:07:22,329 --> 01:07:24,457  since 2014.  1005 01:07:24,498 --> 01:07:27,293        I was interested       in what happened  1006 01:07:27,334 --> 01:07:30,421  to people joining ISIS.  1007 01:07:30,463 --> 01:07:32,131  I made films about this.      1008 01:07:42,475 --> 01:07:44,643    Fared Saal   was pretty much involved      1009 01:07:44,685 --> 01:07:48,689      in the German Islamist scene     for quite a long time  1010 01:07:48,731 --> 01:07:49,857  before joining ISIS.  1011 01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:53,903    And Denis Cuspert did the same     and they met in Syria.  1012 01:07:54,945 --> 01:07:57,990  And Denis was, like,   the big shot  1013 01:07:58,032 --> 01:08:00,409  and Fared was  1014 01:08:00,451 --> 01:08:03,537  not that famous as Denis.      1015 01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:05,831  But Denis wanted him   to be more famous,  1016 01:08:05,873 --> 01:08:09,543  so Denis planned  1017 01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:11,337  a public relation act,  1018 01:08:11,378 --> 01:08:15,925  which was filming   very brutal ISIS video.  1019 01:08:53,712 --> 01:08:56,715    There was a video   full of dead bodies,  1020 01:08:56,757 --> 01:08:57,842  Syrian bodies.  1021 01:08:57,883 --> 01:09:00,427      And Fared Saal was standing      just next to them,  1022 01:09:00,427 --> 01:09:03,305  and he was there   together with Denis  1023 01:09:03,347 --> 01:09:04,431  who filmed him.  1024 01:09:04,473 --> 01:09:06,225  So he was the director.  1025 01:09:08,477 --> 01:09:12,898  And it was all about   public relation.  1026 01:09:14,525 --> 01:09:16,402     Denis was still important.     1027 01:09:16,443 --> 01:09:20,239  The propaganda team   had quite a lot of power.      1028 01:09:20,281 --> 01:09:26,370      They were seen as important      as the fighters for ISIS.      1029 01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:30,708  But it didn't mean     that you wouldn't have to also    1030 01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:33,377  kill somebody   if they asked you to.  1031 01:09:33,419 --> 01:09:37,256  I believe the fact   that he stayed there for so long  1032 01:09:37,256 --> 01:09:41,886  is that he--       if they would've asked him      1033 01:09:41,927 --> 01:09:44,054  to kill somebody,      he would've killed somebody.     1034 01:09:44,054 --> 01:09:45,514  Yeah.  1035 01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:33,562      I've had a lot of FBI      cases come across my desk      1036 01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:34,980  and I've seen quite a lot       in the 15 years  1037 01:10:35,022 --> 01:10:36,607      that I've worked at the FBI.    1038 01:10:36,649 --> 01:10:38,609  But I had never seen   something like this.  1039 01:10:38,651 --> 01:10:40,736  I remember meeting her   at Dulles Airport  1040 01:10:40,778 --> 01:10:41,946  upon her arrival  1041 01:10:41,987 --> 01:10:44,114  and her being placed in custody.  1042 01:10:44,156 --> 01:10:45,783     I introduced myself to her,      1043 01:10:45,824 --> 01:10:46,951  said,      "My name is Kevin Gallagher.     1044 01:10:46,992 --> 01:10:48,619  I'm a special agent   with the FBI."  1045 01:10:48,661 --> 01:10:52,039     And she looked me in the eye         and she said, "I know you."      1046 01:10:52,039 --> 01:10:53,832    I came to learn that her and I    1047 01:10:53,874 --> 01:10:56,043  are actually     in a training course in 2012.     1048 01:10:58,212 --> 01:11:00,130    My name is Shawn Moore.    1049 01:11:00,172 --> 01:11:03,801  I was the attorney   for Daniela Greene.  1050 01:11:03,842 --> 01:11:05,928  I was a public defender  1051 01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:09,431  doing cases here in DC  ,      1052 01:11:09,473 --> 01:11:11,642     and it was in the courtroom       that I first met her.  1053 01:11:13,018 --> 01:11:16,397  They kept her   at a hotel near Dulles  1054 01:11:16,438 --> 01:11:19,441  for a couple of days,   interviewing her.  1055 01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:23,112  It wasn't as if I met her          immediately upon her arrival.    1056 01:11:23,153 --> 01:11:26,073  The prosecutors   approached me and said,  1057 01:11:26,115 --> 01:11:29,368  "Look, she's facing     a considerable amount of time,    1058 01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:31,829  she could help herself   if she could help us."  1059 01:11:31,870 --> 01:11:35,708      The charges against Daniela  ,  1060 01:11:35,708 --> 01:11:39,461  it involved   making a false statement      1061 01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:42,089  to the government,      but there was an enhancement     1062 01:11:42,131 --> 01:11:45,175     because the false statements      also involved terrorism.  1063 01:11:45,217 --> 01:11:48,887      Initially, when she started      doing the translating,  1064 01:11:48,887 --> 01:11:50,597  she was following the line     1065 01:11:50,639 --> 01:11:54,685  in trying to help   lure him to a place  1066 01:11:54,727 --> 01:11:57,146     where he could be arrested.      1067 01:11:57,187 --> 01:12:01,608     Now, aside from the romantic         conversations with Cuspert,      1068 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:03,694  I don't know too much about that  1069 01:12:03,694 --> 01:12:06,572  and whether that was   true or false or what.  1070 01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:09,908  But my impression was that     1071 01:12:09,908 --> 01:12:12,453  because it wasn't working,     1072 01:12:12,494 --> 01:12:14,204  she became frustrated  1073 01:12:14,204 --> 01:12:17,624    and she decided to take things     into her own hands  1074 01:12:17,666 --> 01:12:21,003      and she got into something       way, way over her head.  1075 01:12:21,045 --> 01:12:23,589    You have       a high-ranking FBI employee     1076 01:12:23,589 --> 01:12:26,550  who had knowledge that   would've been restricted      1077 01:12:26,592 --> 01:12:29,178  and that right there   is enough to be criminal  1078 01:12:29,219 --> 01:12:30,971     in terms of the Espionage Act.  1079 01:12:31,013 --> 01:12:32,389  That law was passed  1080 01:12:32,431 --> 01:12:34,808  for the sake   of chomping down on people     1081 01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:36,560      who walk away with secrets.     1082 01:12:36,602 --> 01:12:38,479  The Espionage Act   does not require you  1083 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,106  to go online       and distribute information.     1084 01:12:41,148 --> 01:12:43,650  It's enough to make   information available.  1085 01:12:43,650 --> 01:12:45,027      And her knowing information     1086 01:12:45,069 --> 01:12:47,321      and going to ISIS-held Syria    1087 01:12:47,363 --> 01:12:49,907  would've been   a slam dunk court case.  1088 01:12:49,948 --> 01:12:51,992  And these are, like,   stiff sentences.  1089 01:12:51,992 --> 01:12:54,870  It's, like, ten years per count.  1090 01:12:54,912 --> 01:12:57,915    After she was arraigned     and brought to jail,  1091 01:12:57,915 --> 01:13:01,085  we immediately   went to an offsite.  1092 01:13:01,126 --> 01:13:03,087  We spent with her   over the course  1093 01:13:03,128 --> 01:13:05,130  of the next 24 hours,   probably about 12 hours,      1094 01:13:05,172 --> 01:13:06,423  interviewing her,  1095 01:13:06,423 --> 01:13:08,425     triaging that with focusing on   any potential threats  1096 01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:09,802  to the United States.  1097 01:13:09,843 --> 01:13:13,764  At no point did we feel     that she withheld information     1098 01:13:13,806 --> 01:13:15,724  from the United States   government.  1099 01:13:15,766 --> 01:13:17,726     And based on the information      that we received  1100 01:13:17,726 --> 01:13:19,061  in the sentencing memo,  1101 01:13:19,103 --> 01:13:20,771  the Assistant   United States Attorney  1102 01:13:20,813 --> 01:13:23,440    identifies that Daniela Greene     came very close  1103 01:13:23,482 --> 01:13:26,443  to skirting the line      of far more serious charges.     1104 01:13:26,485 --> 01:13:29,113    Ultimately, she pleaded guilty    1105 01:13:29,113 --> 01:13:31,698  and was given   a sentence of two years.  1106 01:13:31,698 --> 01:13:34,159     She was obviously relieved.      1107 01:13:38,831 --> 01:13:42,292    But it's almost as if she was     1108 01:13:42,334 --> 01:13:44,128  still kind of   in a state of shock  1109 01:13:44,169 --> 01:13:47,256  about what everything   that had happened.  1110 01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:50,676  But that said, throughout this,     she was always concerned  1111 01:13:50,717 --> 01:13:52,302  about how much of this   was going to get out  1112 01:13:52,344 --> 01:13:53,554  and if so, when.  1113 01:14:06,483 --> 01:14:07,985    I've been   in the hotel business  1114 01:14:08,026 --> 01:14:09,987  for approximately 30 years     1115 01:14:09,987 --> 01:14:11,738  and there was   a great opportunity  1116 01:14:11,780 --> 01:14:15,159  for me to transfer   to a big brand new hotel  1117 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,203  in downtown Syracuse as director   of sales and marketing.  1118 01:14:19,329 --> 01:14:20,664  Each night after work,  1119 01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:22,207  I would go   to the concierge lounge  1120 01:14:22,249 --> 01:14:24,126  and kind of unwind a little bit,  1121 01:14:24,168 --> 01:14:26,170  have a nice cold beer   and eat some dim sum.  1122 01:14:26,211 --> 01:14:29,298  And Daniela   was the hostess there.  1123 01:14:30,591 --> 01:14:32,176  When I first met Daniela,      1124 01:14:32,176 --> 01:14:34,553  she was quite   an attractive woman  1125 01:14:34,595 --> 01:14:38,265    with European characteristics,     straight blonde hair  1126 01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:41,602      and a slight little German       tint of an accent  1127 01:14:41,643 --> 01:14:42,644  to her voice.  1128 01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:47,399      She was well-poised and was      obviously in quite command     1129 01:14:47,441 --> 01:14:49,359     of the job that she was doing.  1130 01:14:49,401 --> 01:14:52,279     She was a person that I saw          as immediately overqualified     1131 01:14:52,321 --> 01:14:53,739      for the position she had.  1132 01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:55,199  So right away,   I started thinking,  1133 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,659  "Gee, where can she fit?      Where does she want to go?"      1134 01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:02,539  I walked   into the lounge one day  1135 01:15:02,581 --> 01:15:04,833  and Daniela was obviously upset    1136 01:15:04,875 --> 01:15:07,044  and she was really very shaken.    1137 01:15:07,085 --> 01:15:09,963  I knew that she   was previously married.  1138 01:15:10,005 --> 01:15:13,383  She was separated   from her husband, Matt.  1139 01:15:13,425 --> 01:15:15,344  It was really very tough.      1140 01:15:15,385 --> 01:15:19,056  She was going-- obviously going       through a transitional period     1141 01:15:19,097 --> 01:15:20,140  in her life.  1142 01:15:21,475 --> 01:15:23,268  I asked her   what the problem was  1143 01:15:23,310 --> 01:15:26,104  and she just blew it off       a little bit and said,  1144 01:15:26,146 --> 01:15:28,732  "Gee, it's just something       that happened  1145 01:15:28,774 --> 01:15:32,152  in my previous life       that I'm really sorry about     1146 01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:34,029  and I really regret."  1147 01:15:36,156 --> 01:15:38,242       It's preposterous       to me that she only spent      1148 01:15:38,283 --> 01:15:39,409  two years in prison.  1149 01:15:39,451 --> 01:15:43,914     The fact that she went rogue      in this fashion,  1150 01:15:43,956 --> 01:15:45,707  that they had no idea   where she was,  1151 01:15:45,749 --> 01:15:49,294  that she was essentially  1152 01:15:49,336 --> 01:15:52,130     operating against the Bureau     1153 01:15:52,172 --> 01:15:54,007    without their knowledge of it,    1154 01:15:54,049 --> 01:15:56,218  it's very embarrassing   for the FBI.  1155 01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:58,262    The US government and the FBI,    1156 01:15:58,262 --> 01:16:02,266      they don't want the press   questioning Daniela.  1157 01:16:02,266 --> 01:16:06,728  They don't want her side   of the story to get out.  1158 01:16:06,770 --> 01:16:11,733     The FBI would have preferred      if no one knew about this case,    1159 01:16:11,733 --> 01:16:14,861    if it just kind of got brushed     under the carpet.  1160 01:16:14,903 --> 01:16:16,905  ♪♪♪  1161 01:16:26,206 --> 01:16:28,917     A bizarre story that really           does sound like something  1162 01:16:28,959 --> 01:16:30,961  straight out of  Homeland   or a terrorism movie.  1163 01:16:31,003 --> 01:16:33,088  It's an FBI translator  1164 01:16:33,130 --> 01:16:37,092  who was investigating   an ISIS fighter in 2014  1165 01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:39,595  and then fled the United States     for Syria  1166 01:16:39,636 --> 01:16:41,388  and married him.  1167 01:16:41,388 --> 01:16:43,724    Love can make us   do strange things.  1168 01:16:43,765 --> 01:16:46,602     The story of an FBI translator  1169 01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:48,770     who married an ISIS terrorist.  1170 01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:51,189       It's a story almost           too preposterous to be true.    1171 01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:53,942  The FBI translator who       runs off to the Middle East     1172 01:16:53,984 --> 01:16:56,320  to marry the terrorist   she was tracking  1173 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,572  from the Detroit FBI   Field Office.  1174 01:16:58,572 --> 01:17:00,198  Drew, this is   an incredible story.  1175 01:17:00,198 --> 01:17:02,618  What's the FBI saying   about how it happened?  1176 01:17:02,659 --> 01:17:04,119      Greene, who still had      an American husband  1177 01:17:04,161 --> 01:17:05,412     at the time, wrote an email...  1178 01:17:05,454 --> 01:17:07,789    You know, was having an affair     with an ISIS operative.  1179 01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:10,500  Given that Cuspert knew   she worked for the FBI.  1180 01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:12,336     The case got zero publicity       for months  1181 01:17:12,377 --> 01:17:14,421  because the records   were sealed by the court  1182 01:17:14,463 --> 01:17:17,049  and critics say Greene     got off with a light sentence,    1183 01:17:17,049 --> 01:17:18,592  two years and probation,  1184 01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:21,011  because she cooperated   with the FBI.  1185 01:17:21,053 --> 01:17:23,347  And like we said in our report,     most people facing  1186 01:17:23,388 --> 01:17:25,307  these type of charges   are getting  1187 01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:28,810      much more severe sentences         than this former FBI employee.    1188 01:17:30,812 --> 01:17:32,522    Daniela got a great deal.    1189 01:17:32,564 --> 01:17:34,941      It seems that the government     is protecting itself  1190 01:17:34,941 --> 01:17:36,026  by protecting her.  1191 01:17:36,068 --> 01:17:38,195  She's back in the US   with her ex-husband,  1192 01:17:38,236 --> 01:17:39,529  Sergeant Matthew Greene,      1193 01:17:39,571 --> 01:17:41,740  and after serving   a short sentence,  1194 01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:43,492  she's now working   at the Home Depot.  1195 01:17:44,951 --> 01:17:46,495    So in 2014,   you have to remember,  1196 01:17:46,536 --> 01:17:48,747  our intelligence on ISIS       was good,  1197 01:17:48,789 --> 01:17:50,040  but it wasn't great.  1198 01:17:50,082 --> 01:17:51,625      We knew the top leadership.     1199 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:54,086     We could have a general sense     of the structure,  1200 01:17:54,127 --> 01:17:57,339  but anyone who could   light up the network,  1201 01:17:57,381 --> 01:17:59,883  who goes where,   what do you do in there,      1202 01:17:59,925 --> 01:18:02,094      that is immensely valuable.     1203 01:18:02,135 --> 01:18:04,179    Her cooperation   was extensive.  1204 01:18:04,179 --> 01:18:07,224  It provided information   about ISIS  1205 01:18:07,265 --> 01:18:09,726      that we hadn't seen to date     1206 01:18:09,768 --> 01:18:12,270     and we had eyes on the ground.  1207 01:18:12,312 --> 01:18:13,897  While that was not   our intention,  1208 01:18:13,897 --> 01:18:16,692  it was a byproduct   of the situation  1209 01:18:16,733 --> 01:18:18,151  that we were presented.  1210 01:18:18,193 --> 01:18:20,529      Maybe she's savvier      than we all think  1211 01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:23,657  and she was able   to negotiate that deal  1212 01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:27,828  by providing   very specific information.     1213 01:18:27,869 --> 01:18:30,914    The FBI agents,   they were very interested      1214 01:18:30,956 --> 01:18:35,085  in locations of houses,   where he stayed.  1215 01:18:35,127 --> 01:18:37,713  She provided as much   information as she could      1216 01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:39,881     about what Cuspert was doing,    1217 01:18:39,923 --> 01:18:41,758  led me to believe   that they were trying  1218 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,010  to get information   to target him.  1219 01:18:50,475 --> 01:18:52,102    Last night on my orders,  1220 01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:54,229  America's armed forces   began strikes  1221 01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:56,022     against ISIL targets in Syria.  1222 01:19:11,121 --> 01:19:15,792        Wars succeed by this       drumbeat of propaganda,  1223 01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:18,712  to feel people encouraged,     1224 01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:22,924      to inspire, and to terrify,      has real meaning.  1225 01:19:22,966 --> 01:19:27,137      To move the heart is power.     1226 01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:18,081   Thank you.  1227 01:21:18,123 --> 01:21:19,833  Thank you too.  1228 01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:21,835  -That's good?     - That's great. Yes.    1229 01:21:21,877 --> 01:21:24,129  -Thank you.   -Thank you. Thank you.