1 00:00:00,075 --> 00:00:01,645 This guy is financially racist 2 00:00:01,645 --> 00:00:04,165 because he tried to financially and legally kill me. 3 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 4 00:00:04,275 --> 00:00:05,805 He's a bad guy. And let me just say, 5 00:00:05,805 --> 00:00:07,245 if you ever get a letter from Bill Joiner 6 00:00:07,245 --> 00:00:08,765 and he says, Hey, do you want some easy money? 7 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 8 00:00:08,765 --> 00:00:10,645 Don't worry about your credit. Run the other way. 9 00:00:10,735 --> 00:00:13,365 Don't call him back. Stay away. Don't take his money. 10 00:00:13,565 --> 00:00:14,485 'cause he'll try to take your home. 11 00:00:14,485 --> 00:00:15,325 That's what I'd recommend. 12 00:00:15,325 --> 00:00:17,205 That's who Bill Joiner is. Hey Kelly, how you doing? 13 00:00:17,465 --> 00:00:19,205 Hey, good, Andrew, how are you to see you? Hey, you too. 14 00:00:19,205 --> 00:00:20,685 Good to see you. Greetings. So for those who don't know, 15 00:00:20,685 --> 00:00:21,725 where are we and what are we doing today? 16 00:00:21,745 --> 00:00:23,005 Uh, we're in Orange, California. 17 00:00:23,015 --> 00:00:24,405 We're in front of Planned Parenthood, 18 00:00:24,425 --> 00:00:26,005 and we're here to save the babies. 19 00:00:26,225 --> 00:00:28,005 Uh, not enough people know what's going on. 20 00:00:28,005 --> 00:00:30,765 3000 babies in the United States are, are murdered 21 00:00:30,825 --> 00:00:31,925 and aborted every day. 22 00:00:32,105 --> 00:00:33,485 And I dunno if you saw the sign over here, 23 00:00:33,485 --> 00:00:34,405 did you get a picture of the sign here where 24 00:00:34,405 --> 00:00:35,485 they're selling the baby parts? 25 00:00:35,905 --> 00:00:37,205 My understanding is they'll, 26 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:39,325 they'll actually rip off the head 27 00:00:39,345 --> 00:00:42,125 and then start taking the organs off one at a time 28 00:00:42,225 --> 00:00:44,245 so they can then sell them and, and make money. 29 00:00:44,345 --> 00:00:46,525 So that, that's what this is all about. It's demonic. 30 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:48,925 Save the babies, save the kids. 31 00:00:49,555 --> 00:00:51,725 Save my house for Bill Joyner. 32 00:00:54,825 --> 00:00:57,285 God bless America. Don't tread on me. 33 00:00:57,695 --> 00:01:00,845 Don't even think about it. Don't even think about it. 34 00:01:01,405 --> 00:01:02,725 I got First Amendment rights 35 00:01:03,025 --> 00:01:04,565 and I got Second Amendment rights. 36 00:01:04,635 --> 00:01:08,525 Boom. And don't forget it. Don't tread on me. Nobody. 37 00:01:09,065 --> 00:01:10,685 I'm ready to die from my country or the Lord. 38 00:01:10,825 --> 00:01:14,325 Any day, any day. Bring it on. Bring it on. 39 00:01:16,395 --> 00:01:19,045 Hold on here. This brownish Corolla. 40 00:01:19,045 --> 00:01:20,285 There you cc the two black. 41 00:01:20,285 --> 00:01:22,645 The next one, it looks like might be one I'm praying 42 00:01:22,645 --> 00:01:24,405 for right now as we speak. 43 00:01:24,765 --> 00:01:26,725 I think that they dated Sex for Joy, 44 00:01:26,725 --> 00:01:28,405 and then they don't think that their career 45 00:01:28,955 --> 00:01:30,165 will take him that way though. 46 00:01:30,165 --> 00:01:31,645 But it looks like the boyfriend is 47 00:01:31,805 --> 00:01:32,845 bringing the girlfriend here. 48 00:01:32,985 --> 00:01:34,925 So let's see what we can do with this great coral. 49 00:01:35,035 --> 00:01:36,485 They still haven't got out yet, 50 00:01:36,505 --> 00:01:38,045 and I'm praying that they may see the truth 51 00:01:38,105 --> 00:01:39,365 and the truth will set them free. 52 00:01:42,875 --> 00:01:45,125 What the heck is going on here at Planned Parenthood? 53 00:01:45,125 --> 00:01:47,405 I've heard some crazy things. Let's find out. 54 00:01:48,505 --> 00:01:52,005 Hey, parent Patty Hattie. 55 00:01:53,465 --> 00:01:56,685 Hi. I understand. Do you guys sell baby parts? 56 00:01:57,305 --> 00:01:58,445 Do you guys sell baby parts? 57 00:01:58,565 --> 00:02:00,645 I wanted to find out if you guys sell baby parts. 58 00:02:00,715 --> 00:02:03,605 What, what baby parts you sell and how much they are. 59 00:02:04,025 --> 00:02:05,485 Excuse me, sir. Can, who's gonna mask 60 00:02:05,485 --> 00:02:06,485 On? Who, who do you who, 61 00:02:06,485 --> 00:02:08,165 who qualifies to buy baby parts? 62 00:02:08,265 --> 00:02:09,365 Do I have to have a card? 63 00:02:09,905 --> 00:02:11,205 Do I have to have to take the vaccine? 64 00:02:12,025 --> 00:02:13,405 Who gets to buy baby parts? 65 00:02:13,795 --> 00:02:15,365 Because I understand there's a lot of money 66 00:02:15,385 --> 00:02:16,525 to be made in this industry. 67 00:02:16,645 --> 00:02:17,685 I just wanna know how it works. 68 00:02:18,105 --> 00:02:20,045 Aren't you selling baby parts? Yes or no? 69 00:02:20,665 --> 00:02:23,565 Do you sell baby parts? Yes or no? They wouldn't tell me. 70 00:02:23,565 --> 00:02:25,845 They said, I'm on private property right now. 71 00:02:25,845 --> 00:02:26,725 If you guys need to get off our 72 00:02:26,925 --> 00:02:27,765 property right now, we'll leave. 73 00:02:27,765 --> 00:02:28,965 That's fine. But, but are you, 74 00:02:29,305 --> 00:02:30,965 how are you selling baby parts? 75 00:02:30,965 --> 00:02:32,885 And how much, how much are baby parts? 76 00:02:33,025 --> 00:02:35,405 How much, how much are the baby parts? 77 00:02:37,395 --> 00:02:39,045 It's hard to get answers. It hard. 78 00:02:39,105 --> 00:02:40,805 It is hard to get answers. You know, 79 00:02:40,955 --> 00:02:42,445 they wanna know everything about us. 80 00:02:42,675 --> 00:02:43,805 They wanna control us, 81 00:02:43,945 --> 00:02:45,285 but they don't wanna tell us anything. 82 00:02:45,805 --> 00:02:47,645 I think it has something to do with the truth about what, 83 00:02:47,645 --> 00:02:49,645 what, what really the f**k is going on here. 84 00:02:49,645 --> 00:02:52,045 They're all about money. We talked about that. 85 00:02:52,155 --> 00:02:53,445 They know it's all about money 86 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:55,005 and they wouldn't gimme a price list. 87 00:02:55,105 --> 00:02:56,485 And they're hiding behind the doors. 88 00:02:56,595 --> 00:02:58,365 They're hiding behind the damn doors here. 89 00:02:58,635 --> 00:03:00,965 Just like Bill Joyner hides behind the PO box, 90 00:03:01,195 --> 00:03:03,285 just like he hides behind the gates of Shady Canyon. 91 00:03:03,665 --> 00:03:05,645 That's a bunch of b******t if you ask me. 92 00:03:05,775 --> 00:03:07,645 Bunch of cowards, cowards. 93 00:03:24,955 --> 00:03:28,455 2 9 2 4G subsection A 2 9 2 4G, 94 00:03:28,455 --> 00:03:33,135 subsection D 2 9 2 4 0.1 7 2 9 2 4 0.19, subsection B 95 00:03:33,155 --> 00:03:35,935 and D California penal code section 115 96 00:03:36,095 --> 00:03:39,215 regarding filing a false document, sections 1 1 8 97 00:03:39,275 --> 00:03:42,615 and 1 2 5 regarding perjury, section 1, 3 2, 98 00:03:42,615 --> 00:03:46,055 regarding knowingly present false written evidence. 99 00:03:46,445 --> 00:03:49,535 William Joyner as President of Dove Canyon Holdings. 100 00:03:49,635 --> 00:03:51,215 He is a complete financial 101 00:03:51,235 --> 00:03:54,455 and legal bully as he is tried to destroy me 102 00:03:54,475 --> 00:03:56,935 and has destroyed me and my family financially 103 00:03:57,355 --> 00:03:59,615 and legally in the preparation 104 00:03:59,995 --> 00:04:03,135 and submission of knowingly false, misleading, 105 00:04:03,315 --> 00:04:06,775 and fraudulent documents in his efforts to steal our home 106 00:04:07,035 --> 00:04:08,215 and devastate our family. 107 00:04:09,715 --> 00:04:11,015 My name is Andrew Callahan, 108 00:04:11,015 --> 00:04:13,775 and this is a documentary about a guy named Kelly Johnson. 109 00:04:13,945 --> 00:04:17,815 Kelly j Patriot, SoCal Kelly here. Kelly J two A. 110 00:04:17,835 --> 00:04:19,175 My fingers are messed up kinda like that. 111 00:04:19,175 --> 00:04:20,815 Kelly J two A. God bless America, 112 00:04:20,995 --> 00:04:23,255 An outspoken patriot who hates the Democrat Party. 113 00:04:23,565 --> 00:04:26,335 It's it's demonic people who kill the kids, 114 00:04:26,555 --> 00:04:29,255 But not as much as he hates a man named Bill Joiner. Bill 115 00:04:29,315 --> 00:04:31,015 Joiner, Who you don't know about yet, 116 00:04:31,015 --> 00:04:32,775 but you're gonna learn a lot about later. 117 00:04:33,005 --> 00:04:34,615 Bill Joyner stole my home. 118 00:04:34,725 --> 00:04:37,375 It's all right here, but nobody cares. 119 00:04:37,375 --> 00:04:38,735 There's a guy that lives over here 120 00:04:38,735 --> 00:04:40,055 that rips people off financially. 121 00:04:40,055 --> 00:04:41,855 I didn't know if you knew about him. He's a financial 122 00:04:42,095 --> 00:04:43,815 predator and a domestic terrorist. 123 00:04:44,155 --> 00:04:47,255 So I first met Kelly back on April 11th, 2021. They 124 00:04:47,535 --> 00:04:49,735 Assassinated Kobe Bryant. They whacked him. 125 00:04:49,835 --> 00:04:51,855 The year before 2020, if you can remember, 126 00:04:51,875 --> 00:04:53,775 was a hellish time for America. In many ways. 127 00:04:54,415 --> 00:04:56,615 Everyone feel like that. Everybody feel like that. 128 00:04:56,975 --> 00:04:58,935 I would rather die than wear a 129 00:04:58,935 --> 00:04:59,935 Mask. And I just spent 130 00:04:59,935 --> 00:05:01,455 four months following Trump's campaign 131 00:05:01,455 --> 00:05:04,215 trail across the country filming for my directorial debut 132 00:05:04,215 --> 00:05:05,495 that would later end up on HBO. 133 00:05:05,495 --> 00:05:06,975 It was called This Place Rules. 134 00:05:06,995 --> 00:05:08,375 But the initial title was supposed 135 00:05:08,375 --> 00:05:11,695 to be called America S***s Itself, which I far preferred. 136 00:05:11,715 --> 00:05:14,615 During that three month period, we filmed an insane amount 137 00:05:14,615 --> 00:05:16,815 of stuff, like an Antifa soccer game in Seattle. 138 00:05:17,095 --> 00:05:18,655 I just gotta go on Antifascist school. 139 00:05:18,815 --> 00:05:22,695 I gotta f*****g go Antifa. Antifa. 140 00:05:23,575 --> 00:05:25,695 A series of daily wake up shots in the rv. 141 00:05:25,695 --> 00:05:28,255 They began with a pro lens emerging from my tonsils 142 00:05:28,255 --> 00:05:30,735 and almost used Killer Mike as a recurring voice of reason 143 00:05:30,755 --> 00:05:31,975 to make sense of the political 144 00:05:31,975 --> 00:05:33,175 chaos unfolding in the streets. 145 00:05:33,355 --> 00:05:34,615 The truth of the matter is, 146 00:05:34,805 --> 00:05:36,735 it's being made into theater by media. 147 00:05:37,085 --> 00:05:39,095 It's good tv. They get ratings, they get more money 148 00:05:39,395 --> 00:05:41,935 As far as capturing the craziness of that time, I think 149 00:05:41,935 --> 00:05:43,695 that America S***s itself did its job 150 00:05:44,005 --> 00:05:45,005 F**k. And er 151 00:05:45,005 --> 00:05:46,575 you a Jew Mudhole. 152 00:05:46,915 --> 00:05:49,135 But I was still disappointed for a couple reasons, mainly 153 00:05:49,375 --> 00:05:50,735 'cause I didn't feel like I'd gotten any closer 154 00:05:50,755 --> 00:05:52,215 to answering the why question 155 00:05:52,215 --> 00:05:53,535 that I was actually curious about. 156 00:05:53,955 --> 00:05:56,015 Why did the framework created by Q Anon 157 00:05:56,015 --> 00:05:58,805 and Trump propaganda cause an innumerable amount of people 158 00:05:58,825 --> 00:06:01,525 to jump head first down the rabbit hole endangering their 159 00:06:01,525 --> 00:06:03,365 safety lives and freedom. Dominic 160 00:06:03,835 --> 00:06:06,245 Pola shouted Trump won In the courtroom. 161 00:06:06,345 --> 00:06:08,685 But I'm a firm believer that most people actually think 162 00:06:08,685 --> 00:06:09,725 they're doing the right thing 163 00:06:09,785 --> 00:06:12,285 and see themselves as logical, discerning people in general. 164 00:06:12,465 --> 00:06:16,365 So I was curious about outside of politics, what economic 165 00:06:16,385 --> 00:06:18,965 and social factors caused them to become so susceptible 166 00:06:18,965 --> 00:06:20,245 to brainwashing in the first place? 167 00:06:20,315 --> 00:06:23,365 Unfortunately, I felt like America s***s itself didn't 168 00:06:23,565 --> 00:06:25,485 actually come that close to answering that question. 169 00:06:25,785 --> 00:06:27,045 Not to mention the experience 170 00:06:27,045 --> 00:06:28,565 of actually making the movie the year 171 00:06:28,565 --> 00:06:30,525 after was its own like nightmare. 172 00:06:30,665 --> 00:06:32,565 The executive producers of that film, one 173 00:06:32,565 --> 00:06:35,165 of them in particular, was deeply concerned about being 174 00:06:35,165 --> 00:06:37,045 under fire by his demographic for 175 00:06:37,725 --> 00:06:41,125 platforming problematic ideologies, particularly Alex Jones. 176 00:06:41,345 --> 00:06:43,165 And so they wouldn't move the film forward 177 00:06:43,255 --> 00:06:47,005 until I recorded this insanely cringey high horse director's 178 00:06:47,005 --> 00:06:49,205 chair monologue where the producers fed me lines 179 00:06:49,205 --> 00:06:50,805 to make the movie studio suit. 180 00:06:52,345 --> 00:06:53,765 The companies like Facebook 181 00:06:53,765 --> 00:06:54,965 and Twitter, they're private companies. 182 00:06:55,005 --> 00:06:56,565 I think they have a right to do whatever they want. 183 00:06:56,985 --> 00:06:59,045 Uh, what am I say? That's really embarrassing. 184 00:06:59,225 --> 00:07:01,925 So that sucked. And then also they made me record these like 185 00:07:02,295 --> 00:07:05,645 super cringey Jimmy Kimmel style Orange Man jokes. 186 00:07:06,125 --> 00:07:08,125 I think one of them was I went to a Trump rally 187 00:07:08,125 --> 00:07:09,565 and all I got was COVID-19. 188 00:07:09,635 --> 00:07:10,765 Like I actually had to say that. 189 00:07:11,045 --> 00:07:12,125 I don't think I need to say any of that. 190 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:15,365 So, you know, between, uh, kind of being just fatigued 191 00:07:15,365 --> 00:07:18,365 by talking to like 5,000 Trump supporters in two months, 192 00:07:18,545 --> 00:07:20,205 and then coming to LA right after 193 00:07:20,545 --> 00:07:22,405 and having to record this monologue 194 00:07:22,405 --> 00:07:24,045 that made me sound like somebody I wasn't. 195 00:07:24,205 --> 00:07:26,525 I definitely for multiple reasons wanted 196 00:07:26,525 --> 00:07:28,965 to step away from politics pretty much for good 197 00:07:28,965 --> 00:07:30,125 or until the next election. 198 00:07:30,505 --> 00:07:32,325 So I pivoted toward punk rockers. 199 00:07:32,545 --> 00:07:33,765 I'm about to take this balloon 200 00:07:33,785 --> 00:07:35,085 to the f*****g neck and that 201 00:07:35,085 --> 00:07:37,085 S**t Spring Breakers. My name is Justin. 202 00:07:37,525 --> 00:07:40,245 I like big booty Latinos, Local gang members. You 203 00:07:40,245 --> 00:07:41,965 Gotta drink water cab fire you drink. 204 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:43,805 It's not rocket science m**********r. 205 00:07:43,945 --> 00:07:45,365 And NASCAR fans, Kyle 206 00:07:45,425 --> 00:07:47,805 Bus said that he locked Daytona better than Talladega. 207 00:07:47,805 --> 00:07:48,925 So if you're from around here, dude, 208 00:07:48,925 --> 00:07:50,605 you gotta f*****g hate Kyle Bus. F**k Kyle 209 00:07:50,605 --> 00:07:52,725 Busch hoping to never see a MAGA hat 210 00:07:52,785 --> 00:07:54,485 or an Antifa flag ever again. 211 00:07:54,545 --> 00:07:57,245 But then in mid-April 2021, I opened my phone 212 00:07:57,425 --> 00:07:59,245 and I hear about something happening called a 213 00:07:59,245 --> 00:08:00,485 White Lives Matter rally. 214 00:08:00,825 --> 00:08:02,285 And I was like, what the f**k? Where's this happening at 215 00:08:02,455 --> 00:08:06,005 Huntington Beach, California, only 45 minutes from la these 216 00:08:06,065 --> 00:08:08,805 Are the quote, white Lives Jew matter flyers 217 00:08:08,805 --> 00:08:10,485 that Huntington Beach Police have said. 218 00:08:10,485 --> 00:08:13,565 They received a report about from at least one neighborhood. 219 00:08:13,665 --> 00:08:15,525 It was such a drastic event, 220 00:08:15,595 --> 00:08:17,085 like at least it looked that way. 221 00:08:17,425 --> 00:08:19,445 So I felt like I had to go at least see what would happen. 222 00:08:19,665 --> 00:08:21,805 To be honest upon my arrival, I expected 223 00:08:21,805 --> 00:08:24,645 to at least see five to 10 angry whites. 224 00:08:26,385 --> 00:08:27,445 Always keep this as wide 225 00:08:27,445 --> 00:08:28,445 As possible too. But 226 00:08:28,445 --> 00:08:30,125 instead, there was no whites. 227 00:08:30,135 --> 00:08:34,565 There was mostly about 500 protestors from the local BLM 228 00:08:34,565 --> 00:08:37,365 chapter who showed up an hour and a half before the call. 229 00:08:37,365 --> 00:08:39,205 Time to form a standing army 230 00:08:39,265 --> 00:08:40,885 to resist the Klansman. What? Oh, what 231 00:08:40,885 --> 00:08:41,885 Up? What's up, man? 232 00:08:41,885 --> 00:08:43,925 All gas, no breaks. What up? What's up? 233 00:08:43,925 --> 00:08:45,565 How you doing? Okay, we're chilling. 234 00:08:45,755 --> 00:08:47,085 It's good to see y'all out here. So 235 00:08:47,085 --> 00:08:48,605 For those who don't know, where are we at right now? Man? 236 00:08:48,655 --> 00:08:50,325 We're at Huntington Beach. Why are we here? 237 00:08:50,765 --> 00:08:51,805 Because White Lives Matter. 238 00:08:51,805 --> 00:08:54,325 Wanted to show up in the KKK, whoever the f**k shows up 239 00:08:54,325 --> 00:08:55,670 and supported out, out, we're kicking them. 240 00:08:55,670 --> 00:08:58,485 The f**k outta here. No cops, no k, KK, no Fascist USA. 241 00:08:58,485 --> 00:09:00,445 Yeah, we're live here at Huntington Beach, California. 242 00:09:00,815 --> 00:09:02,045 Huntington Beach Pier. 243 00:09:02,045 --> 00:09:03,285 There's supposed to be a, uh, 244 00:09:03,445 --> 00:09:07,285 a White Lives Matter rally at 1:00 PM It's about 1145. 245 00:09:07,345 --> 00:09:09,205 And the, uh, the counter protest is here. 246 00:09:09,555 --> 00:09:11,325 What else should I say? Channel five. 247 00:09:11,545 --> 00:09:13,685 Oh yeah, you're watching Channel five News, 248 00:09:13,685 --> 00:09:15,245 Huntington Beach Pier and Huntington Beach. 249 00:09:15,985 --> 00:09:17,605 It seems like nowadays all you see on 250 00:09:17,605 --> 00:09:18,805 TV is Black Lives Matter. 251 00:09:18,805 --> 00:09:21,285 That's Black Lives Matter that, but you know what? 252 00:09:21,285 --> 00:09:25,285 You don't hear every day? White Lives 253 00:09:25,285 --> 00:09:26,365 Matter. Find out why 254 00:09:26,675 --> 00:09:28,605 F**k white supremacy racist. Lives 255 00:09:28,605 --> 00:09:29,565 Don't matter. I 256 00:09:29,565 --> 00:09:31,725 Think it's inappropriate to say White lives matter simply 257 00:09:31,845 --> 00:09:33,565 because we have all the power. 258 00:09:33,825 --> 00:09:35,885 You know, look, I'm white. You know, 259 00:09:36,585 --> 00:09:38,645 If they start shooting, get behind me. 260 00:09:38,955 --> 00:09:40,645 Hashtag white privilege. 261 00:09:41,025 --> 00:09:43,885 If we start shooting The cops, you need to be prepared 262 00:09:43,885 --> 00:09:45,725 to put your white body in between yourself 263 00:09:45,745 --> 00:09:47,685 and people of color and danger. 264 00:09:48,105 --> 00:09:50,765 Um, so you just have to be willing to do that. 265 00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:53,765 Uh, f**k raising, f**k Nazis, f**k all that s**t. 266 00:09:53,765 --> 00:09:55,645 You can't make 'em f*****g feel comfortable here. 267 00:09:55,645 --> 00:09:57,045 You gotta make 'em feel uncomfortable 268 00:09:57,105 --> 00:09:59,165 as f*****g possible. That's what we're here for. 269 00:09:59,545 --> 00:10:01,965 Hit the far right with the feminist left, 270 00:10:02,545 --> 00:10:05,565 hit the far right with the feminist left Radical women, 271 00:10:05,795 --> 00:10:08,045 Despite the fighting words of these counter protestors, 272 00:10:08,065 --> 00:10:10,885 the only people there that could be remotely mistaken 273 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:12,965 for white supremacists were confused. 274 00:10:13,095 --> 00:10:14,325 Local Republican guys. 275 00:10:14,805 --> 00:10:16,045 I just came down here to relax. 276 00:10:16,245 --> 00:10:19,365 I come here every Sunday and, uh, I don't own a plantation. 277 00:10:19,385 --> 00:10:22,325 And the blacks aren't picking cotton. I see it firsthand. 278 00:10:22,825 --> 00:10:24,005 See what That there's no racism. 279 00:10:24,625 --> 00:10:27,085 How I have Mexican friends, white friends, 280 00:10:27,385 --> 00:10:28,845 of course I have black friends. 281 00:10:28,905 --> 00:10:30,845 We smoke cigars together, even down here. 282 00:10:31,025 --> 00:10:33,325 And I work with Latino guys, fabulous workers. 283 00:10:33,705 --> 00:10:34,845 El Salvadorian guys. 284 00:10:34,845 --> 00:10:36,765 They, they're the hardest workers I ever saw. 285 00:10:36,795 --> 00:10:38,765 There's no racism overblown, 286 00:10:38,985 --> 00:10:39,985 To be honest. The entire 287 00:10:39,985 --> 00:10:41,565 thing kind of seemed like a sham. 288 00:10:41,735 --> 00:10:45,245 Maybe an FBI honeypot to identify white nationalists. 289 00:10:45,595 --> 00:10:48,365 It's hard to say. But regardless, I was ready to go. 290 00:10:48,505 --> 00:10:50,045 But then from the corner of my eye, 291 00:10:50,125 --> 00:10:51,925 I could make out a black BMW 292 00:10:52,115 --> 00:10:54,325 with an extremely determined looking driver, 293 00:10:54,515 --> 00:10:55,805 heading straight to the event. 294 00:10:56,025 --> 00:10:57,365 At the time, it was just a car. 295 00:10:57,425 --> 00:11:00,245 But this car would soon to become known to me as the MPU. 296 00:11:00,385 --> 00:11:02,885 So this is the mobile protest unit. We call it the MPU. 297 00:11:03,275 --> 00:11:04,285 This is the MPU. 298 00:11:04,285 --> 00:11:07,605 Just to show you, I don't do death taxes or registration. 299 00:11:07,605 --> 00:11:10,325 Everything is in there for a reason. He's got a gun. 300 00:11:10,875 --> 00:11:13,485 He's got a gun. Oh, but wait, it's just a staple gun. 301 00:11:13,485 --> 00:11:15,325 It's got a little, little, be nice to me. Stick. 302 00:11:17,035 --> 00:11:19,565 Just got a little auxiliary hammer, hammer time. 303 00:11:20,235 --> 00:11:23,205 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just a little hook stick here in case you 304 00:11:23,325 --> 00:11:25,325 need a little something that'll pry a little something here. 305 00:11:25,545 --> 00:11:26,965 Get down. Willie Brown says Kamala, 306 00:11:26,965 --> 00:11:28,205 they're trying to shut me down. 307 00:11:28,505 --> 00:11:30,525 Got another one that I wear on my neck sometimes. 308 00:11:31,185 --> 00:11:35,925 Ah, so you're walking down the street. 309 00:11:36,185 --> 00:11:38,165 So you're walking down the street minding your own business. 310 00:11:38,645 --> 00:11:42,045 Somebody says, Hey, you look weird. What's wrong with you? 311 00:11:42,425 --> 00:11:44,805 Say, what's wrong with me? What are you talking about? 312 00:11:45,885 --> 00:11:48,765 I support kids. Are you a girl? You're wearing a purse. 313 00:11:49,385 --> 00:11:51,965 Hey, I'm just trying to pass by. Hey, your name's Kelly. 314 00:11:52,425 --> 00:11:53,525 That's a girl's name. 315 00:11:53,665 --> 00:11:55,805 And so in that regard, there is the Second Amendment. 316 00:11:55,865 --> 00:11:58,845 And right here, and right here and right here. 317 00:11:59,905 --> 00:12:01,165 So just don't forget that. 318 00:12:01,935 --> 00:12:05,205 Don't forget that God bless America once again. 319 00:12:06,005 --> 00:12:10,205 I come in peace, Whack. 320 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:13,685 Have a great day. God bless you. God bless America. 321 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:15,845 The moment that I saw the MPU, 322 00:12:16,025 --> 00:12:18,605 my journalistic spidey senses began firing. 323 00:12:18,605 --> 00:12:20,285 So I followed the car across the street 324 00:12:20,415 --> 00:12:22,245 where it parked in front of the Hurley store. 325 00:12:23,185 --> 00:12:24,525 You got this rolling? Yep. Alright, cool. 326 00:12:24,835 --> 00:12:28,525 This was my first time meeting Kelly J two a SoCal patriot. 327 00:12:28,895 --> 00:12:31,285 How's it going, you guys? You guys here for the, uh, event? 328 00:12:31,665 --> 00:12:33,845 Uh, I love the Lord. I love our country. 329 00:12:34,275 --> 00:12:35,925 President Trump was trying 330 00:12:35,925 --> 00:12:37,725 to protect our country, protect our people. 331 00:12:37,815 --> 00:12:41,045 Heads up here. This whole thing with the virus, with BLM, 332 00:12:41,045 --> 00:12:43,205 with Antifa, that was to hurt President Trump. 333 00:12:43,265 --> 00:12:45,205 And the reason that President Trump wasn't backed 334 00:12:45,205 --> 00:12:47,965 by January 20th, the reason he hasn't been back yet is 335 00:12:47,965 --> 00:12:49,725 because he didn't want to have Civil War. 336 00:12:50,185 --> 00:12:51,445 He cares about the people. 337 00:12:51,885 --> 00:12:54,165 I think you know where I was on January 6th. Where were you? 338 00:12:54,405 --> 00:12:55,925 I think you know where I was on January 6th. 339 00:12:55,985 --> 00:12:58,045 The, the Deep State is trying to control the people. 340 00:12:58,235 --> 00:13:00,525 They control the banking, they control the countries. 341 00:13:00,525 --> 00:13:03,325 They control the Vatican. They assassinated Kobe Bryant. 342 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:05,845 How many people know that they assassinated Kobe Bryant? 343 00:13:05,845 --> 00:13:07,045 They tried to kill Tiger Woods 344 00:13:07,125 --> 00:13:08,245 in that car accident recently. 345 00:13:08,465 --> 00:13:11,365 Why? Uh, the Kobe Bryant deal is that he had dirt on the, 346 00:13:11,385 --> 00:13:12,565 uh, on the Clintons 347 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:14,005 and he was getting ready to go in the, uh, 348 00:13:14,005 --> 00:13:16,405 witness protection program and they whacked him. 349 00:13:16,465 --> 00:13:19,405 But many people are asking why the chopper was flying in 350 00:13:19,405 --> 00:13:20,725 dense fog, especially since 351 00:13:20,725 --> 00:13:21,845 other choppers have been grounded. 352 00:13:22,125 --> 00:13:23,285 I care about our country. I want 353 00:13:23,285 --> 00:13:24,845 people to know what's going on. What's 354 00:13:24,845 --> 00:13:26,325 Going on as a White Lives Matter rally. 355 00:13:26,545 --> 00:13:27,965 Is that what's going on? Yeah. Oh, okay. 356 00:13:27,965 --> 00:13:29,165 I had no idea what was going on. I heard 357 00:13:29,165 --> 00:13:30,565 that there was a BLM thing going on, 358 00:13:30,565 --> 00:13:32,285 and with that usually comes Antifa. 359 00:13:32,745 --> 00:13:34,605 And, uh, I'm kind of anti Antifa. 360 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:39,005 It's, it's demonic people who, uh, that, that kill the kids, 361 00:13:39,215 --> 00:13:41,525 drink their blood, uh, probably eat them too. 362 00:13:41,685 --> 00:13:43,125 I mean, that's what they haven't put this out. 363 00:13:43,285 --> 00:13:44,525 'cause when that happens, people 364 00:13:44,535 --> 00:13:45,685 won't be able to believe it. 365 00:13:45,785 --> 00:13:47,885 But that's the truth. And sometimes the truth hurts. 366 00:13:48,155 --> 00:13:51,045 Sometimes the truth hurts. Sometimes the truth hurts. 367 00:13:51,255 --> 00:13:54,165 Given that I just interviewed probably 4,000 people 368 00:13:54,225 --> 00:13:57,125 for America, s***s itself with the exact same talking points 369 00:13:57,225 --> 00:13:59,485 as Kelly Bar for bar, in all likelihood, 370 00:13:59,485 --> 00:14:00,845 I probably would've cut it short. 371 00:14:00,985 --> 00:14:02,445 Had I not asked one question. 372 00:14:02,585 --> 00:14:04,725 What's the most painful piece of truth that's hurt you? 373 00:14:05,225 --> 00:14:08,285 Uh, guy stealing my home. Uh, guy stealing my home. 374 00:14:08,625 --> 00:14:09,965 Uh, guy stealing my home. 375 00:14:10,315 --> 00:14:12,285 He's falsified a trustee deed to himself 376 00:14:12,285 --> 00:14:14,125 with seven false representations on it 377 00:14:14,265 --> 00:14:15,965 and stole my home to take about 378 00:14:15,965 --> 00:14:17,645 600,000 equity down Laguna Hills. 379 00:14:17,645 --> 00:14:19,405 And Nelly Gale ranches name's Bill Joiner. 380 00:14:19,425 --> 00:14:20,645 His name's Bill Joyner. 381 00:14:20,745 --> 00:14:24,045 He lives in Shady Canyon and he's, uh, demonic also. 382 00:14:24,065 --> 00:14:26,765 He destroyed my family, destroyed my 25 year business, 383 00:14:27,035 --> 00:14:28,725 separated and devastated my family. 384 00:14:28,745 --> 00:14:30,205 So that answers your question. This dude 385 00:14:30,205 --> 00:14:31,405 Sounds like he sucks. Uh, 386 00:14:31,845 --> 00:14:33,325 I don't think he's a good guy, in my opinion. 387 00:14:33,395 --> 00:14:34,925 He's a bad guy and he's hurt a lot of people. 388 00:14:35,025 --> 00:14:36,405 But then again, look what the Democrats 389 00:14:36,405 --> 00:14:37,525 are doing to others. In 390 00:14:37,525 --> 00:14:40,405 Kelly's answer, the why that I talked about, which I tried 391 00:14:40,405 --> 00:14:43,325 and failed to answer for the HBO project seemed to sort 392 00:14:43,325 --> 00:14:45,605 of present itself on a silver platter in the way that he 393 00:14:45,605 --> 00:14:47,325 so casually connected a tragic 394 00:14:47,925 --> 00:14:50,845 personal situation in his life to a grander spiritual war 395 00:14:50,845 --> 00:14:52,165 between good and evil in the country. 396 00:14:52,565 --> 00:14:54,365 I had so many more questions for Kelly, but 397 00:14:54,365 --> 00:14:56,485 before I could even get a word out, he was on the move 398 00:14:56,515 --> 00:14:57,805 with four flags in hand, 399 00:14:58,285 --> 00:15:00,285 approaching a blood thirsty army of hostiles. 400 00:15:00,545 --> 00:15:02,405 He had this genuine look of terror 401 00:15:02,545 --> 00:15:04,245 and bewilderment as he approached the corner. 402 00:15:04,505 --> 00:15:06,445 And probably for good reason, 30 seconds later, 403 00:15:06,545 --> 00:15:08,165 he was swarmed, not 404 00:15:08,185 --> 00:15:09,165 His No ho 405 00:15:16,945 --> 00:15:17,945 All lives matter. 406 00:15:18,265 --> 00:15:21,725 All lives matter. This flag is for the 3000 aborted babies 407 00:15:21,995 --> 00:15:23,085 that happen every day. 408 00:15:23,305 --> 00:15:25,805 Why are they talking about all the people getting killed in 409 00:15:25,805 --> 00:15:27,805 Chicago every weekend? 410 00:15:27,985 --> 00:15:29,045 Do they care about that? 411 00:15:29,385 --> 00:15:31,325 All the black people getting killed in Chicago? 412 00:15:31,795 --> 00:15:33,685 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 413 00:15:33,835 --> 00:15:36,005 Shut the f**k up, b***h. F**k you. Yeah, I will. 414 00:15:36,005 --> 00:15:37,565 Are you stupid b***h? F**k your life. 415 00:15:38,365 --> 00:15:40,045 I hope you f*****g die. Homie me straight up. 416 00:15:40,235 --> 00:15:41,405 F**k everything you represent. 417 00:15:41,555 --> 00:15:43,485 Look for the truth. And keep the faith, bro. 418 00:15:46,395 --> 00:15:50,485 F**k up. Kobe Bryant was assassinated by the Quinns. 419 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:56,165 Hey, hey, hey. You can see at least two men carrying 420 00:15:56,215 --> 00:15:57,645 Trump, 2020 flags 421 00:15:57,645 --> 00:16:00,845 and one going head to head with protestors who surround him 422 00:16:00,865 --> 00:16:02,205 and rip his flag down 423 00:16:02,985 --> 00:16:07,045 My broke the f**k about your hat. 424 00:16:07,865 --> 00:16:08,845 Hey, man, can you just give 425 00:16:08,845 --> 00:16:09,845 us an overview of what happened? 426 00:16:10,405 --> 00:16:11,765 I got attacked. Someone took my hat, 427 00:16:11,765 --> 00:16:12,765 someone took my flags. 428 00:16:13,745 --> 00:16:15,925 And, uh, they just try to cancel you. 429 00:16:15,925 --> 00:16:17,525 If they don't like your position, they just attack you 430 00:16:17,525 --> 00:16:18,565 and try to cancel you second 431 00:16:18,565 --> 00:16:19,685 attack you and try to cancel you, 432 00:16:19,685 --> 00:16:21,045 Attack you, and try to cancel you, 433 00:16:21,045 --> 00:16:22,445 attack you, and try to cancel you. 434 00:16:22,825 --> 00:16:27,405 Hey. No fastest 435 00:16:27,585 --> 00:16:28,725 on our f*****g streets. 436 00:16:29,235 --> 00:16:33,565 Hold on. Who? Street R Street. Who street RC. 437 00:16:33,705 --> 00:16:35,725 That's right. What's up? 438 00:16:36,065 --> 00:16:37,965 What's up? Hey, I like the show, bro. I'm good. 439 00:16:40,205 --> 00:16:42,045 I left Huntington Beach that day with a lot 440 00:16:42,045 --> 00:16:43,085 of things on my mind. 441 00:16:43,185 --> 00:16:45,445 But mainly I couldn't stop thinking about Kelly. 442 00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:48,525 And more importantly, his arch nemesis Bill. His 443 00:16:48,525 --> 00:16:49,525 Name's Bill Joiner. 444 00:16:49,725 --> 00:16:52,165 I wanted to learn as much as I possibly could about the 445 00:16:52,365 --> 00:16:54,325 collapse of Kelly's career, life, and family, 446 00:16:54,665 --> 00:16:55,685 and figure out how 447 00:16:55,685 --> 00:16:58,565 and when exactly that collapse coincided with politics. 448 00:16:58,635 --> 00:17:00,365 This all connected to a theory that I've had 449 00:17:00,365 --> 00:17:01,805 for a long time about 450 00:17:01,865 --> 00:17:03,845 how exactly people jumped down the rabbit hole. 451 00:17:03,985 --> 00:17:05,205 For the purposes of this movie, 452 00:17:05,385 --> 00:17:07,645 I'm gonna name it Andrew's Radicalization Theory, 453 00:17:07,645 --> 00:17:10,965 because I'm Andrew, and this is my radicalization theory. 454 00:17:11,185 --> 00:17:13,445 The leading experts among those who study cults 455 00:17:13,445 --> 00:17:16,005 and radicalization often points to undercurrents of hatred, 456 00:17:16,315 --> 00:17:17,725 echo chambers of misinformation. 457 00:17:17,825 --> 00:17:19,805 And grifter is selling t-shirts online 458 00:17:19,965 --> 00:17:22,125 with provocative slogans when dissecting 459 00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:24,045 and diagnosing the transformation of an 460 00:17:24,045 --> 00:17:27,565 otherwise normal person into a radicalized individual. 461 00:17:27,845 --> 00:17:30,605 I mean, all the empirical evidence overwhelmingly suggests 462 00:17:30,605 --> 00:17:33,565 that there's an enormous 200 foot ice wall holding the 463 00:17:33,565 --> 00:17:35,605 oceans in level and flat. How do you stand on Hitler? 464 00:17:35,625 --> 00:17:39,045 But I believe the true catalyst without fault is a deep 465 00:17:39,285 --> 00:17:40,725 personal tragedy or some kind 466 00:17:40,725 --> 00:17:43,125 of negative canon event in someone's personal life 467 00:17:43,315 --> 00:17:45,645 that ultimately collapses their support system, 468 00:17:45,955 --> 00:17:47,725 depriving them of their three core needs, 469 00:17:47,725 --> 00:17:51,125 which I believe are security, significance, and connection. 470 00:17:51,965 --> 00:17:53,605 Security asks the question, am I safe? 471 00:17:53,785 --> 00:17:55,005 Be it from physical danger 472 00:17:55,185 --> 00:17:57,325 or safe from suffering, from heartbreak 473 00:17:57,325 --> 00:17:59,805 or hunger significance asks, do I matter? 474 00:17:59,815 --> 00:18:02,165 Oftentimes that can be mattering to your community, 475 00:18:02,165 --> 00:18:03,965 like if you're running a soup kitchen or something. 476 00:18:04,105 --> 00:18:05,965 But more often it's fulfilled through work 477 00:18:06,025 --> 00:18:07,445 and contribution and output. 478 00:18:07,505 --> 00:18:09,245 We don't have to go to work on Monday. 479 00:18:09,545 --> 00:18:13,085 We can't go to work on Monday. Get baby, let's go, let's go. 480 00:18:13,145 --> 00:18:14,285 Let the heavy hitters go. 481 00:18:14,495 --> 00:18:15,645 Third core need is something 482 00:18:15,645 --> 00:18:17,165 that you can't buy connection, 483 00:18:17,175 --> 00:18:20,325 which in my eyes is the most essential human need connection 484 00:18:20,325 --> 00:18:22,005 asks a plain and simple question, which is, 485 00:18:22,185 --> 00:18:23,685 am I loved for who I am? 486 00:18:23,955 --> 00:18:26,925 This is typically fulfilled through romance, family ties, 487 00:18:27,025 --> 00:18:28,965 social bonds like brotherhood and comradery. 488 00:18:29,185 --> 00:18:31,405 One thing I've noticed in the field, especially 489 00:18:31,405 --> 00:18:33,765 with teenagers and young adults, is that the absence 490 00:18:33,765 --> 00:18:35,405 of core need fulfillment causes them 491 00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:36,805 to engage in attention seeking 492 00:18:37,165 --> 00:18:38,405 criminal behavior to fill the void. 493 00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:40,445 But with adults like Kelly, for example, 494 00:18:40,615 --> 00:18:42,445 these three core needs collapsing 495 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,485 after they've already had maybe 20, 30, 40 years 496 00:18:45,505 --> 00:18:47,445 of all them being fulfilled, causes them 497 00:18:47,445 --> 00:18:50,845 to develop a vengeful, nihilistic self victimizing worldview 498 00:18:50,865 --> 00:18:52,645 as an overwhelmed trauma response, 499 00:18:52,775 --> 00:18:54,805 often leading them straight into politics, 500 00:18:55,405 --> 00:18:57,085 specifically reactionary politics. 501 00:18:57,265 --> 00:18:59,125 That's because I believe that in the fight 502 00:18:59,125 --> 00:19:00,165 or flight state that happens 503 00:19:00,165 --> 00:19:02,845 after a traumatic event, people are the most susceptible 504 00:19:03,005 --> 00:19:04,965 to being brainwashed by politicized media 505 00:19:05,305 --> 00:19:07,245 as it feeds on their anger and bewilderment. 506 00:19:07,425 --> 00:19:11,205 We have videos of firefighters using women's purses 507 00:19:11,625 --> 00:19:13,525 to try and put out the fires, 508 00:19:13,825 --> 00:19:16,245 and they have intentionally tried to drive out all 509 00:19:16,245 --> 00:19:18,485 of the white people from the firefighting 510 00:19:18,485 --> 00:19:19,565 force in Los Angeles. 511 00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:22,445 It's biblical. Uh, and it's a message. 512 00:19:22,675 --> 00:19:24,245 There's a ton of examples of this, 513 00:19:24,385 --> 00:19:25,725 but this movie's about Kelly. 514 00:19:25,825 --> 00:19:28,485 So I wanna stay focused in Kelly's story about Bill 515 00:19:28,505 --> 00:19:30,485 and his home being taken, which caused the collapse 516 00:19:30,485 --> 00:19:31,645 of his family and business. 517 00:19:31,845 --> 00:19:33,845 I saw a chance to finally tackle the why 518 00:19:34,025 --> 00:19:35,685 and to prove my theory about the connection 519 00:19:35,685 --> 00:19:37,165 between collapsed unmet needs 520 00:19:37,265 --> 00:19:39,165 and conservative political psychosis. 521 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,005 So I found Kelly on Facebook 522 00:19:41,005 --> 00:19:43,805 and set up a secondary interview at a motel in Orange County 523 00:19:43,865 --> 00:19:44,925 to get some more information. 524 00:19:47,185 --> 00:19:49,125 Hey, we are in Huntington Beach, California 525 00:19:49,905 --> 00:19:51,405 at the Shore Break Hotel. 526 00:19:52,505 --> 00:19:57,125 And it, uh, and my 527 00:19:57,125 --> 00:19:59,685 prediction is that Donald Trump will be back over the next 528 00:19:59,685 --> 00:20:02,045 several months with possibly some military intervention. 529 00:20:02,065 --> 00:20:03,125 In the meantime, uh, 530 00:20:03,205 --> 00:20:05,525 I believe President Trump will be coming back once these 531 00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:08,005 audits start rolling out when people can see the truth. 532 00:20:08,035 --> 00:20:10,525 Part of the problem is, is this false narrative. 533 00:20:11,625 --> 00:20:13,645 So what happened at the rally after we left, I 534 00:20:13,645 --> 00:20:14,805 Went right back to the same corner 535 00:20:14,805 --> 00:20:15,965 where I just got attacked. 536 00:20:16,065 --> 00:20:19,365 So I'm standing there, some, some big burly cop all 537 00:20:19,365 --> 00:20:22,285 of a sudden grabs my left arm and says, you're arrested. 538 00:20:22,365 --> 00:20:24,805 Officers eventually confiscate the man's flag 539 00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:25,965 and take him into custody 540 00:20:26,305 --> 00:20:29,885 And manhandled me, getting me into the back of an SUV 541 00:20:30,155 --> 00:20:32,205 that had metal seats, metal seats, 542 00:20:32,205 --> 00:20:33,885 and they put me at an angle uncomfortable 543 00:20:34,255 --> 00:20:35,325 destroying my wrist. 544 00:20:35,485 --> 00:20:37,045 I asked him to loosen the handcuffs 545 00:20:37,045 --> 00:20:38,925 and they expressly told me they 546 00:20:38,925 --> 00:20:39,965 aren't meant to be comfortable. 547 00:20:40,345 --> 00:20:42,765 And I was arrested for the first time in my life 548 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:45,325 after being an attorney for about 30 years. 549 00:20:45,515 --> 00:20:48,605 They, they wrote me up for having a dangerous weapon at a 550 00:20:48,605 --> 00:20:50,525 public event that was not a weapon 551 00:20:50,835 --> 00:20:53,845 that was obviously a flagpole, and it was in the air. 552 00:20:54,085 --> 00:20:56,685 I later learned that dangerous weapon in question is 553 00:20:56,845 --> 00:20:59,525 referred to as the for banger Kelly's battle staff 554 00:20:59,525 --> 00:21:01,325 that he brings everywhere he goes. What 555 00:21:01,325 --> 00:21:03,125 This is, is the, for banger, four banger is 556 00:21:03,125 --> 00:21:04,205 for flags on one pole, 557 00:21:04,205 --> 00:21:06,565 channel five live worldwide, Hollywood and 558 00:21:06,565 --> 00:21:07,565 Vine. Being that I 559 00:21:07,565 --> 00:21:09,005 wasn't there for the actual arrest, 560 00:21:09,205 --> 00:21:10,645 I asked him if we could recreate the scene. 561 00:21:10,745 --> 00:21:11,885 All lives matter. Okay? 562 00:21:11,885 --> 00:21:14,285 You're Arrested. Oh my God, for what he 563 00:21:14,285 --> 00:21:15,285 Did. I didn't even say, I was 564 00:21:15,285 --> 00:21:16,005 just blown away. 565 00:21:16,065 --> 00:21:17,205 He didn't say anything. No, 566 00:21:17,205 --> 00:21:18,325 Let's act it out like it's happening. 567 00:21:18,325 --> 00:21:19,325 Let's start, let's start from the top. 568 00:21:19,395 --> 00:21:21,845 Kobe Bryant was assassinated by the Clintons. 569 00:21:21,845 --> 00:21:24,005 Come here Nazi. You're going to Guantanamo. Oh 570 00:21:24,005 --> 00:21:25,005 My gosh. What did I do? 571 00:21:25,005 --> 00:21:25,725 Am I getting 572 00:21:25,885 --> 00:21:26,885 Canceled? The Democrats don't 573 00:21:26,885 --> 00:21:28,165 like you. They're gonna cancel you. 574 00:21:28,425 --> 00:21:30,285 Oh, man. So one thing that we talked about 575 00:21:30,285 --> 00:21:33,005 during our interview is you mentioned that, uh, 576 00:21:33,005 --> 00:21:34,285 you had your home stolen 577 00:21:34,865 --> 00:21:38,445 by a shady real estate agent named Bill Joiner. He's 578 00:21:38,445 --> 00:21:40,085 Falsified a trustee deed to himself 579 00:21:40,085 --> 00:21:41,965 with seven false representations on it. 580 00:21:42,145 --> 00:21:46,205 And he had, uh, a piece of paper that he prepared saying 581 00:21:46,205 --> 00:21:48,965 that he owned my home and it was a false document. 582 00:21:49,105 --> 00:21:50,765 And he used that to steal my home 583 00:21:50,945 --> 00:21:52,005 As a lifelong renter. 584 00:21:52,085 --> 00:21:54,045 I had no idea what the hell Kelly was talking about. 585 00:21:54,345 --> 00:21:56,245 So I set us up in the bathroom to get down 586 00:21:56,245 --> 00:21:57,725 to the nitty gritty of what really happened. 587 00:21:59,145 --> 00:22:01,885 So going back to the very beginning, how did this all start? 588 00:22:02,825 --> 00:22:06,765 Uh, sometime in, in late October, early November, 2006, 589 00:22:06,965 --> 00:22:09,845 I received the, uh, unsolicited, uh, 590 00:22:09,845 --> 00:22:11,965 letter from the Joiner group saying, Hey, 591 00:22:11,965 --> 00:22:13,085 we've got a family trust. 592 00:22:13,175 --> 00:22:15,885 We've got some money available. Easy loans. 593 00:22:16,135 --> 00:22:18,725 Don't have to worry about all the, uh, formalities that the, 594 00:22:18,825 --> 00:22:21,165 the, the banks and the typical lenders have. 595 00:22:21,425 --> 00:22:22,645 And, uh, they'll loan money. 596 00:22:22,645 --> 00:22:24,565 They've loaned money in my area, uh, 597 00:22:24,565 --> 00:22:26,445 which is Laguna Hills, Nellie Gale Ranch. 598 00:22:26,585 --> 00:22:28,965 Uh, you know, I had a lot of debt. I had a law office. 599 00:22:29,205 --> 00:22:32,325 I had a home. So a traditional bank loan would be 600 00:22:32,325 --> 00:22:33,445 maybe be difficult to get. 601 00:22:33,505 --> 00:22:35,965 So this was a way for me to get some funding. You have 602 00:22:35,965 --> 00:22:37,005 A family, right? Yeah. 603 00:22:37,265 --> 00:22:41,245 Uh, three kids, Kyle, Kaylee, and Sydney. 604 00:22:41,435 --> 00:22:43,365 Figured I'd check. I followed up. 605 00:22:43,465 --> 00:22:46,165 Uh, it seemed like, uh, you know, easy money, 606 00:22:46,305 --> 00:22:47,525 it seemed like I would qualify. 607 00:22:48,185 --> 00:22:51,645 So this letter says I can give you between 35,000 608 00:22:51,665 --> 00:22:55,565 and $3 million after only just a five minute phone call. 609 00:22:55,705 --> 00:22:57,165 How much did you ask for initially? 610 00:22:57,445 --> 00:22:58,525 A hundred thousand. Okay. 611 00:22:58,525 --> 00:23:02,645 Keeping in mind that this was through 2008, 2009, 10, 612 00:23:02,825 --> 00:23:05,125 the worst financial crisis our country's had 613 00:23:05,125 --> 00:23:06,205 since the Great Depression. 614 00:23:06,205 --> 00:23:08,205 So this guy knew that that was occurring 615 00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:10,925 and I was four, I think four months late with him. 616 00:23:11,515 --> 00:23:13,565 Four times 15. It was about $6,000. 617 00:23:13,945 --> 00:23:17,805 Uh, that's when Bill Joyner filed a notice of default on a, 618 00:23:17,805 --> 00:23:19,605 on a million, half plus value home. 619 00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:24,365 And thereafter, on February 1st, 2017, all 620 00:23:24,365 --> 00:23:26,685 of a sudden there were eight officers 621 00:23:26,685 --> 00:23:29,285 and six squad cars that came knocking on our door. 622 00:23:29,635 --> 00:23:30,965 They took us out at gunpoint 623 00:23:31,505 --> 00:23:35,205 and I had on flip flops, I had shorts and a t-shirt, 624 00:23:35,665 --> 00:23:37,125 and they wouldn't let me go back into the 625 00:23:37,125 --> 00:23:38,165 home and get anything else. 626 00:23:38,495 --> 00:23:39,845 Kelly says that in their hands, 627 00:23:39,865 --> 00:23:41,965 orange County Sheriff's had a signed document 628 00:23:41,995 --> 00:23:44,805 that said his home now belonged to Bill Joiner. 629 00:23:44,885 --> 00:23:47,125 Through this document, he stole my home. 630 00:23:47,475 --> 00:23:49,245 What Kelly continuously refers to 631 00:23:49,345 --> 00:23:51,525 as a theft was actually just a foreclosure 632 00:23:51,945 --> 00:23:53,445 of which there was over 12 million 633 00:23:53,455 --> 00:23:55,285 after the Great Recession in 2008. 634 00:23:55,425 --> 00:23:58,165 It was one of the most profound events in generations 635 00:23:58,165 --> 00:24:00,645 with huge consequences for the American economy 636 00:24:00,785 --> 00:24:03,205 and households throughout the country. It 637 00:24:03,405 --> 00:24:05,165 Was very difficult time for our family. 638 00:24:05,665 --> 00:24:07,485 Our three kids had to move out 639 00:24:07,485 --> 00:24:09,165 and move in with friends at that point in time, 640 00:24:09,185 --> 00:24:10,845 and they were with friends for several months. 641 00:24:11,425 --> 00:24:12,925 My wife and I went our own ways. 642 00:24:13,355 --> 00:24:14,965 Just a few months after the foreclosure, 643 00:24:15,115 --> 00:24:17,045 Kelly's wife took full custody of their kids 644 00:24:17,145 --> 00:24:18,805 as his mental health and financial 645 00:24:18,965 --> 00:24:20,205 stability continued to spiral. 646 00:24:20,845 --> 00:24:22,325 I, I was functionally homeless. 647 00:24:22,525 --> 00:24:24,405 I was functionally homeless. I slept in my car. 648 00:24:24,565 --> 00:24:26,765 I didn't have places to stay. I didn't have income. 649 00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:29,645 I went from having a law office to not being able to work. 650 00:24:29,705 --> 00:24:31,005 And during this timeframe, 651 00:24:31,155 --> 00:24:33,405 because of what Bill Joyner did to me, 652 00:24:33,865 --> 00:24:35,605 we never got back together as a family. 653 00:24:36,335 --> 00:24:38,125 Never. No. To this day, 654 00:24:38,755 --> 00:24:39,765 Upon further research, 655 00:24:39,965 --> 00:24:41,765 I learned something pretty interesting, which is 656 00:24:41,765 --> 00:24:42,965 that the home foreclosure 657 00:24:43,105 --> 00:24:45,725 to capital Rioter Pipeline was overflowing 658 00:24:45,725 --> 00:24:49,125 and analyzing the public records of the 125 January 6th. 659 00:24:49,125 --> 00:24:51,085 Capital rioters, arrested and convicted. 660 00:24:51,295 --> 00:24:53,725 60% of them had recently filed for bankruptcy. 661 00:24:53,995 --> 00:24:55,765 Half of them were in severe debt to a creditor, 662 00:24:55,865 --> 00:24:58,645 and 20% had recently lost their homes as a result 663 00:24:58,805 --> 00:25:00,005 of eviction and foreclosure. 664 00:25:00,005 --> 00:25:02,925 Looking back at America's s***s itself, I began to wonder 665 00:25:03,025 --> 00:25:05,285 how many of the people I had spoken to during the heat 666 00:25:05,285 --> 00:25:07,405 of 2020 had a similar story to Kelly 667 00:25:07,665 --> 00:25:10,485 and had totally normal stable lives that were derailed 668 00:25:10,485 --> 00:25:12,045 by financial hardship way 669 00:25:12,045 --> 00:25:13,445 before politics came into the picture. 670 00:25:13,585 --> 00:25:16,485 But before I drew any wild conclusions about, I don't know, 671 00:25:16,825 --> 00:25:19,525 two party electoral politics, being a corporate scam, 672 00:25:19,885 --> 00:25:21,365 engineered by a singular power structure 673 00:25:21,425 --> 00:25:24,125 to evenly divide the public and to monetize consumer groups 674 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:26,005 and keep them busy fighting each other while the ruling 675 00:25:26,005 --> 00:25:27,485 class tightens their monopoly on wealth 676 00:25:27,485 --> 00:25:28,805 information and natural resources. 677 00:25:29,085 --> 00:25:30,125 I had to ask the question, 678 00:25:30,425 --> 00:25:32,725 was Kelly really normal before all this? 679 00:25:32,825 --> 00:25:35,405 His Facebook page had a pretty limited selection of media, 680 00:25:35,545 --> 00:25:36,885 so there wasn't much to look at. 681 00:25:37,485 --> 00:25:40,005 I asked Kelly if he had any footage or recordings of himself 682 00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:42,325 and his family in the home before it was stolen. 683 00:25:42,465 --> 00:25:44,805 He said, yeah, and let me borrow a VHS tape 684 00:25:44,805 --> 00:25:47,125 of home movies filmed back in the good old days 685 00:25:47,145 --> 00:25:48,805 before everything came crashing down. 686 00:25:48,935 --> 00:25:51,405 These are the Johnson Family tapes. I hope you guys enjoy 687 00:25:55,185 --> 00:25:57,965 The de de Hi. 688 00:25:58,795 --> 00:26:02,855 Hi. Hi. How are you baby? There's Kyle. 689 00:26:03,795 --> 00:26:06,855 Kyle's here. Kyle's here. Hi. 690 00:26:09,075 --> 00:26:10,175 You gimme a big hug. 691 00:26:10,715 --> 00:26:14,455 No, Kaylee, can daddy have a kiss, kiss? No. 692 00:26:14,915 --> 00:26:17,655 That's how you need to treat those men. Good. 693 00:26:17,715 --> 00:26:19,575 Top here's Mommy. 694 00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:23,995 I wish you the best of luck 695 00:26:24,135 --> 00:26:25,195 and hope that everything goes 696 00:26:25,595 --> 00:26:26,715 absolutely great for you in the future. 697 00:26:27,625 --> 00:26:32,515 Shannon. Ready? Ready. 698 00:26:33,505 --> 00:26:37,395 Alright. Wants a noodle? Is this on? Hey, noodle. 699 00:26:40,465 --> 00:26:42,275 Here, here, here. Kyle, you're up. Here's a noodle. 700 00:26:42,615 --> 00:26:46,285 Do the noodle dance. Hey, that was cool. We got it. 701 00:26:48,225 --> 00:26:51,325 Oh, how are you little girl? Come on, miss Piggy. 702 00:26:51,625 --> 00:26:52,685 Hey, what are you getting? 703 00:26:52,955 --> 00:26:57,885 Come get a little snack. Oh, she's racing. 704 00:26:58,215 --> 00:27:00,365 Let's go see the doggies. Come on, come on, come on. 705 00:27:00,365 --> 00:27:02,805 Let's go outside. Oh, dropping those little bombs. 706 00:27:02,835 --> 00:27:06,845 Tail a wagon. Oh, miss C Oh, little pork stir. 707 00:27:07,055 --> 00:27:08,445 Kelly was not lying about 708 00:27:08,445 --> 00:27:10,405 how dope his life was back at the old house, 709 00:27:10,705 --> 00:27:13,485 but still I was fascinated by the sheer number 710 00:27:13,505 --> 00:27:15,645 of animals living at the property at one time. 711 00:27:16,395 --> 00:27:20,525 Good girl. Snowy. Oh honey, look how cute. Rudy the rat. 712 00:27:20,525 --> 00:27:22,925 There's his tail. He is a male. He is. Got a big sack there. 713 00:27:23,105 --> 00:27:25,405 See the little frogs there? I, what do we got over there? 714 00:27:25,425 --> 00:27:28,125 We got the new tank. That is the stingray new 715 00:27:28,125 --> 00:27:30,085 125 gallon tank here. Ooh, 716 00:27:30,085 --> 00:27:31,485 They're all land now. Yay. 717 00:27:32,195 --> 00:27:33,285 Yeah, there's a re rad. 718 00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:35,165 Like he just had some surgery, but he's doing pretty good. 719 00:27:35,305 --> 00:27:39,365 And there's old co buster, little pygmy goat. Yeah. Okay. 720 00:27:39,915 --> 00:27:43,885 Alright. Valentine's weekend. February, 1697. 721 00:27:43,885 --> 00:27:46,005 Heading to the Ritz later signing off. 722 00:27:50,305 --> 00:27:51,325 And I rang the doorbell. 723 00:27:52,325 --> 00:27:53,685 I don't know that anybody's answering here. 724 00:27:54,115 --> 00:27:56,005 This was our home. This is our home at, uh, 725 00:27:56,385 --> 00:27:57,485 it looks a lot different 726 00:27:57,645 --> 00:27:59,885 'cause these people have really, I think they really 727 00:27:59,915 --> 00:28:02,925 destroyed the, uh, the outer portion of our property. 728 00:28:02,925 --> 00:28:05,565 They put all this, this plants, all these plants in here. 729 00:28:05,705 --> 00:28:07,285 It looks like they're trying to barricade 730 00:28:07,285 --> 00:28:08,645 themselves in there, kinda like a prison. 731 00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:11,605 Kinda like Bill Joyner's home in Shady Canyon. For 732 00:28:11,605 --> 00:28:14,125 Kelly, the physical home itself was his security, 733 00:28:14,225 --> 00:28:16,125 but it also bled into his significance 734 00:28:16,505 --> 00:28:17,685 in the timeline of his life. 735 00:28:17,905 --> 00:28:20,405 The home was the ultimate symbol of material achievement. 736 00:28:20,615 --> 00:28:22,605 Kelly was born in a mobile home in Iowa 737 00:28:22,745 --> 00:28:23,965 to two working class parents. 738 00:28:24,145 --> 00:28:25,485 And after getting straight A's 739 00:28:25,485 --> 00:28:27,765 and playing football in high school, he followed his dreams 740 00:28:27,785 --> 00:28:30,805 of moving to California where he graduated from USC 741 00:28:30,865 --> 00:28:32,605 and went on to study law at Pepperdine, 742 00:28:33,165 --> 00:28:34,445 ultimately establishing himself 743 00:28:34,585 --> 00:28:36,445 as a prominent bankruptcy attorney in the 744 00:28:36,445 --> 00:28:37,965 upscale Laguna Hills area. 745 00:28:38,345 --> 00:28:40,485 Man, we had a great pool in jacuzzi. 746 00:28:40,545 --> 00:28:41,765 Uh, we had a koi pond. 747 00:28:41,765 --> 00:28:44,525 We had a koi pond that I built with my own hands, Gail. 748 00:28:44,525 --> 00:28:46,205 We actually had about 47 animals. 749 00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:48,525 We had dogs, cats, rabbits, and a potbelly pig. 750 00:28:48,525 --> 00:28:51,125 Miss piggy, double digit rabbits, double digit cats. 751 00:28:51,345 --> 00:28:53,165 My next door neighbor was the vice president, 752 00:28:53,165 --> 00:28:54,925 chief General Counsel of Taco Bell. 753 00:28:55,025 --> 00:28:56,525 As you see, it's an equestrian area. 754 00:28:56,525 --> 00:28:59,525 There's 32 miles of horse trails. Nellie Gale Ranch. Why 755 00:28:59,525 --> 00:29:01,125 Don't you guys run over there and I'll take your picture, 756 00:29:02,145 --> 00:29:03,805 But you don't Go into the street, do you? 757 00:29:03,855 --> 00:29:06,125 Right up over here on the left, uh, top portion, 758 00:29:06,135 --> 00:29:08,605 those first two windows are, uh, the, uh, 759 00:29:08,635 --> 00:29:10,285 bath in the master, uh, bedroom. 760 00:29:11,075 --> 00:29:12,075 Whoa. 761 00:29:13,145 --> 00:29:15,085 Tackle The other window here. 762 00:29:15,085 --> 00:29:18,005 Kind of in the middle is, uh, Kyle's bedroom. So where are 763 00:29:18,005 --> 00:29:19,005 You going today? I'm 764 00:29:19,005 --> 00:29:20,925 going to school. Is it your first day? 765 00:29:21,275 --> 00:29:24,125 It's my first day. Okay. Go down by the first day of school. 766 00:29:24,585 --> 00:29:26,725 Bye bye. You're going to school and I'm going to work. Okay. 767 00:29:27,065 --> 00:29:30,365 And then over on the far right is, uh, Sydney's room. 768 00:29:30,425 --> 00:29:33,045 And then Kaylee's room was across the hallway from Sydney's 769 00:29:33,045 --> 00:29:34,925 in the back of the house overlooking the pool 770 00:29:35,075 --> 00:29:36,085 jacuzzi and koi pine. 771 00:29:36,145 --> 00:29:38,965 We had a lot of fun here and it was a real family oriented 772 00:29:41,365 --> 00:29:43,125 Ow For Halloween. 773 00:29:43,125 --> 00:29:44,125 That was really, really fun. 774 00:29:44,325 --> 00:29:46,125 'cause what we do, we set up tables right here. 775 00:29:46,515 --> 00:29:48,725 We'd all decorate, we'd all bring food, 776 00:29:48,955 --> 00:29:51,405 we'd all have our candy, and we'd all line up out here 777 00:29:51,405 --> 00:29:52,885 and just with all these neighbors here, 778 00:29:56,815 --> 00:29:58,435 And look sunlight. 779 00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:12,395 I had everything 780 00:30:13,465 --> 00:30:16,835 that I'd accumulated my entire lifetime in this home. 781 00:30:17,335 --> 00:30:19,475 And that's everything that I had in the world. 782 00:30:19,535 --> 00:30:21,875 So when Bill Joyner took that away from our family, 783 00:30:22,255 --> 00:30:25,275 he took me away from our foundation, the foundation 784 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:26,835 of our family being our home. 785 00:30:27,225 --> 00:30:28,275 It's kinda like a lot of things 786 00:30:28,275 --> 00:30:29,475 that are going on in our world right now. 787 00:30:29,475 --> 00:30:32,195 Nobody cares about the truth that a guy does this to me. 788 00:30:32,355 --> 00:30:35,795 A 25 close to 30 year attorney steals my home 789 00:30:35,795 --> 00:30:37,715 and the legal system allows it to do it. 790 00:30:38,135 --> 00:30:41,355 And then President Trump wins the election in a landslide. 791 00:30:41,695 --> 00:30:44,635 But the media says, no, no, no. Joe Biden won. 792 00:30:44,735 --> 00:30:47,355 And, and I see a parallel there, taking my home by fraud, 793 00:30:47,415 --> 00:30:48,875 taking the election by fraud. 794 00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:51,275 That's the parallel, you know, same people, different day. 795 00:30:52,095 --> 00:30:53,795 It seemed like through Kelly's story, 796 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:56,835 my initial thesis about political fanaticism being built 797 00:30:56,945 --> 00:30:58,795 atop of unprocessed trauma was proving 798 00:30:58,795 --> 00:31:00,075 itself in a clear cut fashion. 799 00:31:00,255 --> 00:31:03,035 But then again, even if I was right, who cares? 800 00:31:03,735 --> 00:31:05,955 Too often in today's world, reaching conclusions 801 00:31:05,975 --> 00:31:07,675 and raising awareness about things 802 00:31:07,675 --> 00:31:10,715 that are going on without offering a helping hand is exalted 803 00:31:10,715 --> 00:31:13,835 as a noble cause Sometimes it feels like as a generation, 804 00:31:13,855 --> 00:31:17,195 we haven't actually moved on from the Ney 2012 model, 805 00:31:17,405 --> 00:31:18,835 which suggests that if a bunch 806 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:20,235 of people know about something 807 00:31:20,255 --> 00:31:21,995 and collectively voice their outrage 808 00:31:22,275 --> 00:31:23,795 together, that thing will change. 809 00:31:24,095 --> 00:31:25,835 But most of the time it never does. 810 00:31:25,975 --> 00:31:28,275 And so I became struck with a genuine desire 811 00:31:28,275 --> 00:31:30,955 to help Kelly move on, help him process his resentments, 812 00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:33,515 and most importantly move on from Bill Joiner. 813 00:31:33,815 --> 00:31:36,115 But how he was devastated in a way 814 00:31:36,115 --> 00:31:37,915 that at the time I just couldn't understand. 815 00:31:38,155 --> 00:31:40,195 I, it, it hit me hard. It hit me emotionally. 816 00:31:40,195 --> 00:31:42,395 It hit me financially. It hit me legally, obviously. 817 00:31:42,895 --> 00:31:44,115 And it impacted our family. 818 00:31:44,115 --> 00:31:45,355 And I'm, I'm trying to move on, 819 00:31:45,355 --> 00:31:47,395 but I, I would like to get justice at some point in time. 820 00:31:47,395 --> 00:31:49,675 We need some justice. We need justice for our country. 821 00:31:50,335 --> 00:31:51,955 And the Johnson family needs justice. 822 00:31:52,905 --> 00:31:55,675 He's a financial predator and a domestic terrorist. 823 00:31:55,905 --> 00:31:57,395 Hope you get all the money you need, bill. 824 00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:58,995 Hope you get all the money you need. 825 00:32:00,975 --> 00:32:04,675 Go to hell, go to jail, whichever comes first. 826 00:32:06,995 --> 00:32:08,995 I figured that the first step in helping Kelly would 827 00:32:09,195 --> 00:32:11,155 probably be enlisting the help of his children. 828 00:32:11,255 --> 00:32:12,875 So I asked for their numbers. He said, 829 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:15,035 don't worry about a phone number, just come by on a Friday. 830 00:32:15,255 --> 00:32:17,595 I'm gonna be taking my oldest son Kyle to an event, 831 00:32:18,035 --> 00:32:19,475 a justice for January 6th. 832 00:32:19,475 --> 00:32:20,475 Rally. 833 00:32:21,915 --> 00:32:26,395 U-S-A-U-S-A-U-S-A America first. 834 00:32:26,775 --> 00:32:28,395 Yo, he might done Google bill. 835 00:32:28,855 --> 00:32:31,475 He Vietnamese folks are fired up. They don't want communism. 836 00:32:31,475 --> 00:32:32,795 They've already seen communism. 837 00:32:33,015 --> 00:32:35,155 We are here at the FBI office in Orange County, 838 00:32:35,155 --> 00:32:37,835 their FBI field office at 4,000 West Metropolitan 839 00:32:37,925 --> 00:32:39,405 Drive in Orange, California. 840 00:32:39,475 --> 00:32:41,485 Kelly's a great guy. I've known Kelly for months. 841 00:32:41,605 --> 00:32:42,885 I think he's probably the most committed 842 00:32:42,885 --> 00:32:44,045 patriot here in Orange County. 843 00:32:44,115 --> 00:32:45,525 He's always going out with his flags 844 00:32:45,525 --> 00:32:47,245 and, you know, standing alone against the tide. 845 00:32:47,395 --> 00:32:48,445 Kelly's son is awesome. 846 00:32:48,505 --> 00:32:50,205 He actually looked exactly like Kelly just, 847 00:32:50,205 --> 00:32:51,365 you know, 30, 40 years younger. 848 00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,125 Uh, so my name's Kyle Johnson 849 00:32:53,265 --> 00:32:54,605 and then, uh, my dad is Kelly. 850 00:32:54,745 --> 00:32:57,845 I'm his son. And yeah, we're just out here today, uh, 851 00:32:57,845 --> 00:32:59,085 just out here protesting. 852 00:32:59,225 --> 00:33:01,285 You know, it's my first time at one of these Johns 853 00:33:01,385 --> 00:33:02,765 and uh, just happy to be out here. 854 00:33:02,955 --> 00:33:05,445 Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the candle. Sweet. 855 00:33:05,905 --> 00:33:08,045 God bless America. They're trying to take our country. 856 00:33:08,135 --> 00:33:10,805 Let's get it back. Let's get it back. People gotta wake up. 857 00:33:11,025 --> 00:33:13,405 So, uh, yeah, with this like it's uh, it's a cool way to, 858 00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,045 uh, connect with him and like, 859 00:33:15,045 --> 00:33:16,765 obviously it's not my favorite thing in the world, 860 00:33:16,985 --> 00:33:18,605 but I do see a lot of the points of like 861 00:33:18,605 --> 00:33:21,245 where he's coming from and I could understand why he's 862 00:33:21,245 --> 00:33:22,405 so passionate about these things. 863 00:33:22,635 --> 00:33:24,565 Yeah. So it's cool to be a part of that, just 864 00:33:24,565 --> 00:33:25,725 to be supportive of him. 865 00:33:25,985 --> 00:33:29,405 The occupational regime is founded upon a swamp 866 00:33:29,745 --> 00:33:32,205 of lies and depravity. What are some of 867 00:33:32,205 --> 00:33:33,205 The other things that you and your dad 868 00:33:33,385 --> 00:33:34,385 Do together besides this? 869 00:33:34,835 --> 00:33:36,805 Yeah, so I mean, uh, we like to go on bike rides. 870 00:33:36,865 --> 00:33:39,005 Uh, that's like one of the funnest things we'll do is go hit 871 00:33:39,005 --> 00:33:40,805 up, uh, either like Newport or Huntington Beach 872 00:33:40,865 --> 00:33:42,445 and just go, uh, you know, get some sun. 873 00:33:42,445 --> 00:33:44,485 That kind of stuff. You know, just watch the sports. 874 00:33:44,865 --> 00:33:46,085 But honestly, I mean this is something 875 00:33:46,085 --> 00:33:47,765 that he's pretty passionate about, so I've kind 876 00:33:47,765 --> 00:33:49,005 of just learned to like cater to that, 877 00:33:49,005 --> 00:33:50,085 if that makes sense a little bit. 878 00:33:50,095 --> 00:33:52,765 We're gonna sing the national anthem in conjunction 879 00:33:52,765 --> 00:33:54,005 with the J six prisoners 880 00:33:54,005 --> 00:33:55,885 who do this every night from their selves. 881 00:33:56,585 --> 00:34:00,205 Oh, say, can you see 882 00:34:01,745 --> 00:34:06,485 by the light for the 883 00:34:08,025 --> 00:34:11,925 of the and the 884 00:34:12,115 --> 00:34:14,405 home of God. 885 00:34:19,755 --> 00:34:24,285 Good. Joe Biden, Biden. Team. USA team. 886 00:34:24,405 --> 00:34:26,245 USA. Let's get it back folks. How 887 00:34:26,245 --> 00:34:27,245 Often do you see your dad? 888 00:34:27,385 --> 00:34:29,045 Uh, uh, Kelly. I see him. 889 00:34:29,065 --> 00:34:31,765 Uh, yeah, I see him every time I'm in town. Uh, you say Kes? 890 00:34:31,985 --> 00:34:34,085 Kes. We got a, I got a lot of nicknames for him. 891 00:34:34,225 --> 00:34:36,725 Uh, probably my favorite one's. Uh, son you 892 00:34:36,725 --> 00:34:37,605 Call him. You call him son. 893 00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:39,725 Son. Every now and then. Yeah. How come? 894 00:34:39,865 --> 00:34:42,085 You know, I just think like one day it was just, uh, 895 00:34:42,285 --> 00:34:43,925 I think we were just hanging out one day 896 00:34:43,925 --> 00:34:45,805 and it just for some reason just just 897 00:34:45,805 --> 00:34:47,005 said it and it kind of just stuck. 898 00:34:47,555 --> 00:34:49,645 Yeah. But yeah, no, sometimes, you know, 899 00:34:49,685 --> 00:34:50,725 I just feel like his pops. 900 00:34:50,725 --> 00:34:52,885 But he's a good guy. You feel like his dad? Yeah. 901 00:34:53,075 --> 00:34:55,285 Yeah, yeah. How come? You know, I just gotta like, you know, 902 00:34:55,285 --> 00:34:56,765 he'll go off on these little tangents, you know, 903 00:34:56,785 --> 00:34:57,845 get pretty passionate about stuff. 904 00:34:57,865 --> 00:34:59,125 I'm like, you know, hey, like it's 905 00:34:59,125 --> 00:35:00,245 okay. Like, he'll calm down. 906 00:35:00,505 --> 00:35:03,205 Say her name her, 907 00:35:05,415 --> 00:35:07,405 There he is, He's hanging out with the poor 908 00:35:07,525 --> 00:35:08,525 Bearer. Had a couple extra flight 909 00:35:08,525 --> 00:35:09,605 for guys. Stop by. 910 00:35:10,585 --> 00:35:12,005 People say you look like each other. 911 00:35:12,025 --> 00:35:16,645 And I say, well, we're related. He thinks he's my dad. 912 00:35:16,835 --> 00:35:17,925 Yeah, this is my son. 913 00:35:18,575 --> 00:35:22,965 Daddy tackle me. No, he was gonna come tackle you brother. 914 00:35:23,105 --> 00:35:24,965 Tackle, ah, tackle you. 915 00:35:25,105 --> 00:35:26,845 Ah, you 916 00:35:31,515 --> 00:35:32,005 America. 917 00:35:32,995 --> 00:35:33,995 America. 918 00:35:41,095 --> 00:35:43,715 The Torry lanes. Megan thee stallion controversy is the 919 00:35:43,715 --> 00:35:45,715 January 6th of hip hop. Undoubtedly. 920 00:35:45,785 --> 00:35:47,635 What do you mean by that? Uh, in the sense that, 921 00:35:47,695 --> 00:35:49,395 you know, we don't know all the evidence out there about 922 00:35:49,395 --> 00:35:51,435 what Torry Lanes did or what Megan thee stallion's saying. 923 00:35:51,435 --> 00:35:52,795 You know what I mean? It's just a he said, she said. 924 00:35:52,795 --> 00:35:53,715 And I think we need to wait for the real 925 00:35:53,875 --> 00:35:54,235 evidence to come out. 926 00:35:54,635 --> 00:35:56,155 Musician Torry Lanes convicted 927 00:35:56,275 --> 00:35:58,595 of shooting rapper Megan Thee stallion sentenced 928 00:35:58,615 --> 00:35:59,795 to 10 years in prison. 929 00:36:00,055 --> 00:36:02,435 But my favorite solo rappers from Wu-Tang Clan are j**z 930 00:36:02,435 --> 00:36:03,875 of the genius and Rayquan the chef. 931 00:36:03,895 --> 00:36:05,355 And then I guess for more modern stuff, 932 00:36:05,395 --> 00:36:06,755 I do like 21 Savage a lot. 933 00:36:06,985 --> 00:36:08,275 It's a knife, you know what I mean? 934 00:36:08,355 --> 00:36:10,755 I, myself, I grew up big w****r, 935 00:36:10,795 --> 00:36:12,475 I guess you could say. You know what I mean? Wait, 936 00:36:12,475 --> 00:36:13,435 Wait, what do you mean? I don't 937 00:36:13,435 --> 00:36:14,435 Know. I just like all kinds 938 00:36:14,435 --> 00:36:15,635 of stuff really. All kinds of rap. 939 00:36:15,635 --> 00:36:16,715 And I just think it's, I like hip 940 00:36:16,715 --> 00:36:17,915 hop just 'cause you know, it's cool man. 941 00:36:17,915 --> 00:36:20,035 It's a lot of charisma. A lot of machismo. I think it's cool 942 00:36:20,335 --> 00:36:21,355 To a certain extent. 943 00:36:21,355 --> 00:36:24,035 There was only so much I could handle of that g*****n rally. 944 00:36:24,235 --> 00:36:25,275 I was there to talk to Kyle 945 00:36:25,375 --> 00:36:26,595 and while it was pretty obvious 946 00:36:26,595 --> 00:36:29,675 that their traditional father son dynamic had been warped 947 00:36:29,675 --> 00:36:31,315 by the eviction, Kyle didn't seem 948 00:36:31,315 --> 00:36:34,075 to care too much about his dad's over the top politics. 949 00:36:34,255 --> 00:36:36,715 So I became much more curious about Kelly's daughter, 950 00:36:36,865 --> 00:36:40,115 Kaleigh Kelly had dropped a couple small hints about her 951 00:36:40,115 --> 00:36:41,515 personality suggesting 952 00:36:41,515 --> 00:36:44,075 that maybe just maybe she was a liberal 953 00:36:44,295 --> 00:36:46,355 And my daughter at UCLA is kinda left field. 954 00:36:46,675 --> 00:36:47,915 'cause that's kind of how she's been 955 00:36:47,915 --> 00:36:49,715 indoctrinated, uh, in that way. 956 00:36:49,855 --> 00:36:52,315 So yeah, know we kinda lost her a couple years ago. 957 00:36:52,385 --> 00:36:54,035 What do you think Kaylee would say if she saw 958 00:36:54,035 --> 00:36:55,155 both of you guys out here right now? 959 00:36:55,325 --> 00:36:56,715 She'd probably roll her eyes and laugh a little 960 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:57,755 bit, but she probably wouldn't be thrilled. 961 00:37:01,865 --> 00:37:03,115 This is my necklace. 962 00:37:03,455 --> 00:37:06,435 It basically means, uh, sic, WLW 963 00:37:06,495 --> 00:37:08,355 so it means woman love and woman. How 964 00:37:08,355 --> 00:37:09,355 Do, why do you have it? 965 00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:11,115 Oh, because I'm gay. Gay. 966 00:37:20,035 --> 00:37:21,875 I discovered this in college 967 00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:23,555 because apparently not everyone 968 00:37:23,555 --> 00:37:24,755 wants to make out with girls at parties. 969 00:37:24,985 --> 00:37:28,795 Then I came out April of 2020, so quarantine 970 00:37:29,215 --> 00:37:32,475 and um, I mean since then I've just hated men more 971 00:37:32,475 --> 00:37:33,675 and more. So I ain't 972 00:37:33,675 --> 00:37:34,955 Trying to have babies right now. 973 00:37:35,055 --> 00:37:37,555 So we fought with a rub, but I got a raw 974 00:37:37,555 --> 00:37:39,035 B***h when I came out to him. 975 00:37:39,755 --> 00:37:42,715 I said, I'm bi. Does this hair make me look gay? 976 00:37:43,335 --> 00:37:46,035 Uh, why do you wanna look gay? Yeah. Are you gay? Huh? 977 00:37:46,215 --> 00:37:48,355 Huh? Bi. Okay. Super. 978 00:37:48,815 --> 00:37:52,355 And then he said, you know what Kaylee, I'm Trisexual. 979 00:37:53,415 --> 00:37:55,915 And I was like, what the f**k does that mean? 980 00:37:56,215 --> 00:37:59,235 And he was like, I like brown, black and Asian. 981 00:37:59,575 --> 00:38:01,475 And I was like, well that doesn't include mom. 982 00:38:01,895 --> 00:38:03,715 Um, anyway, I don't know if you can include that. 983 00:38:04,675 --> 00:38:05,995 I used to say I'm Trisexual. 984 00:38:06,155 --> 00:38:07,675 I like black, brown and Asian women. 985 00:38:07,895 --> 00:38:09,035 He was so high that day. 986 00:38:09,035 --> 00:38:12,675 Like, I honestly didn't know if he like understood. 987 00:38:15,775 --> 00:38:17,155 My dad is high 24 7 988 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:19,955 and he does stuff like his normal is being high. 989 00:38:19,985 --> 00:38:23,355 Like if, I don't know if I've ever seen him not high. Why 990 00:38:23,355 --> 00:38:24,395 Is wake up embarrassed? 991 00:38:24,395 --> 00:38:27,075 Wake up, wake up, excerpt your head outta your ass 992 00:38:27,135 --> 00:38:29,035 and see what the f**k is going on right now. 993 00:38:29,225 --> 00:38:31,075 It's very important. If you don't, 994 00:38:31,285 --> 00:38:32,675 we're gonna f*****g lose rights. 995 00:38:32,975 --> 00:38:35,035 If not die, you're never gonna have those rights 996 00:38:35,085 --> 00:38:36,085 Back. White 997 00:38:36,085 --> 00:38:38,365 privilege people, we are not losing any rights. At 998 00:38:39,505 --> 00:38:40,725 The way Kaylee described it, 999 00:38:40,745 --> 00:38:44,045 her dad was a somewhat conservative, quirky, mellow, 1000 00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:46,645 suburban dude until the family began 1001 00:38:46,645 --> 00:38:47,725 having financial troubles. 1002 00:38:47,755 --> 00:38:49,805 When we started having financial difficulties. 1003 00:38:49,825 --> 00:38:51,365 And when Bill Joyner entered the picture, 1004 00:38:52,425 --> 00:38:54,365 my dad became very obsessive. 1005 00:38:54,755 --> 00:38:56,365 Bill Joyner stole my home. 1006 00:38:56,475 --> 00:38:59,165 It's all right here, but nobody cares. 1007 00:38:59,395 --> 00:39:02,005 Bill Joyner just became like the antagonist. 1008 00:39:02,235 --> 00:39:04,605 Like that was the person who 1009 00:39:05,425 --> 00:39:07,605 was the end all be all worst person, 1010 00:39:07,915 --> 00:39:10,005 most terrible person in his life who was 1011 00:39:10,525 --> 00:39:11,925 actively trying to destroy him. 1012 00:39:12,345 --> 00:39:14,205 Are these people that live here rip other people off 1013 00:39:14,205 --> 00:39:15,205 and steal other people's money? 1014 00:39:15,385 --> 00:39:17,245 Is that how they, is that how they f*****g get in here? 1015 00:39:17,305 --> 00:39:19,165 When's the last time the feds came? Tell me. 1016 00:39:19,565 --> 00:39:21,005 I, at first I don't think he handled 1017 00:39:21,105 --> 00:39:22,165 the, handled it the best. 1018 00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:23,565 Um, he was almost in like a little bit 1019 00:39:23,565 --> 00:39:25,205 of a denial stage. At first. 1020 00:39:25,545 --> 00:39:28,405 He was really like fighting like he was, you know, 1021 00:39:28,515 --> 00:39:32,205 over 40 hours a week, like typing s**t, reading s**t. 1022 00:39:32,385 --> 00:39:34,805 He was just trying all of these different things. 1023 00:39:34,985 --> 00:39:37,565 And like I said, like he wasn't working like this was all 1024 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:38,965 that his time was devoted to, 1025 00:39:39,155 --> 00:39:42,205 This is a flyer that I had prepared, uh, 1026 00:39:42,525 --> 00:39:44,405 entitled Bill Joyner stole my home. 1027 00:39:44,785 --> 00:39:47,125 And uh, it sets forth the 10 1028 00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:50,685 or 15 code sections that he violated by doing what he did. 1029 00:39:50,965 --> 00:39:52,845 I gave a little background on, on him 1030 00:39:52,935 --> 00:39:55,885 where he lives in this area called Shady Canyon, 1031 00:39:55,885 --> 00:39:57,525 appropriately named Shady Canyon. 1032 00:39:57,945 --> 00:39:59,885 He hides behind the gates of Shady Canyon. 1033 00:40:00,225 --> 00:40:02,005 He has a PO box for his business. 1034 00:40:02,345 --> 00:40:04,045 So he, he's really nowhere 1035 00:40:04,095 --> 00:40:06,485 where anybody can access them because he's hiding. 1036 00:40:06,755 --> 00:40:08,165 There's a guy that lives over here 1037 00:40:08,165 --> 00:40:09,485 that rips people off financially. 1038 00:40:09,525 --> 00:40:10,685 I didn't know if you knew about him. If, 1039 00:40:10,685 --> 00:40:11,885 if not, you should know about 'em. 1040 00:40:11,885 --> 00:40:14,045 Just stay away from him. His name's Bill Joyner. 1041 00:40:14,195 --> 00:40:16,405 Just don't do business with the guy stole my home in Nellie. 1042 00:40:16,405 --> 00:40:17,565 Ga Let me give you one of these flyers. 1043 00:40:17,565 --> 00:40:19,285 You don't know Bill Joyner do ya, bill? 1044 00:40:19,285 --> 00:40:21,845 No, I know Wally Joyner. Oh, he's okay. Wally's. Okay. 1045 00:40:21,845 --> 00:40:22,885 Bill Joyner rips you off. Why? 1046 00:40:22,885 --> 00:40:24,005 Financially on, on real estate 1047 00:40:24,005 --> 00:40:25,085 deals, you gotta be careful with him. 1048 00:40:25,085 --> 00:40:27,405 He lives here in Shady Canyon. He screws people. 1049 00:40:27,705 --> 00:40:28,965 He definitely screwed me. 1050 00:40:29,425 --> 00:40:30,565 And, and then he hides 1051 00:40:30,745 --> 00:40:32,325 and then he hides behind his attorneys. 1052 00:40:32,595 --> 00:40:35,805 Like I said, he spends more time on these things than his 1053 00:40:35,805 --> 00:40:37,525 family and that's very difficult. 1054 00:40:37,755 --> 00:40:40,565 Despite everything I said, I love my dad 1055 00:40:40,785 --> 00:40:42,445 and I really want the best for him. 1056 00:40:43,605 --> 00:40:44,965 I know that he's a good person, 1057 00:40:45,865 --> 00:40:50,205 but it's been a long time, I think since I've seen, I, 1058 00:40:50,325 --> 00:40:51,285 I think it's been a long time 1059 00:40:51,285 --> 00:40:52,565 since I've actually seen my dad. 1060 00:40:52,755 --> 00:40:54,685 Well, okay, we'll just walk, we'll just walk. Okay. 1061 00:40:56,055 --> 00:41:00,045 Daddy, I can't walk, walk with me. I'll hold your hand. 1062 00:41:00,315 --> 00:41:02,405 Okay. Okay. 1063 00:41:07,745 --> 00:41:09,005 Now that I'd met both Kyle 1064 00:41:09,065 --> 00:41:10,885 and Kaylee, I wanted to get them together 1065 00:41:10,985 --> 00:41:13,605 to brainstorm on ways that we could help their dad let go 1066 00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:15,165 of his resentments and hopefully 1067 00:41:15,185 --> 00:41:16,605 become a caring father again. 1068 00:41:16,825 --> 00:41:18,405 But I wasn't sure how to get the kids together. 1069 00:41:18,755 --> 00:41:22,565 That was until Kyle told me he was having a project X style 1070 00:41:22,885 --> 00:41:25,045 frat party the next weekend at PE Chico State 1071 00:41:25,305 --> 00:41:26,805 and that Kaylee would be there. 1072 00:41:27,065 --> 00:41:28,565 So I hopped on my favorite highway, 1073 00:41:28,815 --> 00:41:30,845 interstate five and headed north. 1074 00:41:31,225 --> 00:41:33,765 But along the way, somewhere near Stockton, 1075 00:41:34,205 --> 00:41:37,165 I realized there was a huge problem in my plan. 1076 00:41:38,475 --> 00:41:42,125 Kyle is a freshman and freshman parties suck ass. 1077 00:41:42,385 --> 00:41:44,165 So I had to think fast about how 1078 00:41:44,165 --> 00:41:47,605 to make Kyle's function pop off in a last ditch effort 1079 00:41:47,605 --> 00:41:49,805 to recruit party goers for Kyle Shindig. 1080 00:41:50,005 --> 00:41:52,845 I made a pit stop at the local skate park in Chico. 1081 00:41:52,845 --> 00:41:55,965 Whereas if sent from the heavens, a prophet emerged, 1082 00:41:56,345 --> 00:41:58,445 Hey b***h, I'm from the gutter. 1083 00:41:58,685 --> 00:42:00,085 I don't use a brother when I'm f*****g 1084 00:42:00,085 --> 00:42:01,845 with your mother mama Super soaker dunk. 1085 00:42:01,905 --> 00:42:04,245 You don't want me on your bumper momma call m**********r, 1086 00:42:04,305 --> 00:42:05,565 you won't catch me with no suckers. 1087 00:42:05,565 --> 00:42:08,925 Watch me do this. I'm off two fists. Yo b***h in the back. 1088 00:42:08,945 --> 00:42:10,205 And she Y two. This 1089 00:42:10,425 --> 00:42:12,525 The man said his name was simply Uncle Pill, 1090 00:42:12,645 --> 00:42:14,565 a Chico resident and king of the skate park 1091 00:42:14,565 --> 00:42:17,445 with an extensive social network seeing no other option. 1092 00:42:17,525 --> 00:42:20,285 I told Uncle Pill to invite everyone he knows 1093 00:42:20,285 --> 00:42:21,805 to Kyle's party and gave him the address. 1094 00:42:22,105 --> 00:42:23,245 The rest was history. 1095 00:42:24,915 --> 00:42:27,285 Have you guys got a drink? Put that s**t in the air. 1096 00:42:27,715 --> 00:42:29,725 Have a f*****g good ass time. Let's get f****d up. 1097 00:42:54,915 --> 00:42:56,725 That shit's for f*****g Kyle, man. 1098 00:42:56,905 --> 00:42:58,165 Uh, Kyle's just a great guy. 1099 00:42:58,165 --> 00:43:00,365 You know, he showed me life like I've never seen it before. 1100 00:43:00,885 --> 00:43:04,125 I f**k with my n***a Kyle. I f**k with my n***a Kyle. 1101 00:43:04,665 --> 00:43:06,405 That's it. What's your favorite thing about Kyle? 1102 00:43:06,865 --> 00:43:09,365 My my favorite thing about Kyle, he gets b*****s. 1103 00:43:09,585 --> 00:43:11,685 That's why I follow Kyle. He gets the b*****s 1104 00:43:12,265 --> 00:43:14,965 And he has good ethics. Kyle. 1105 00:43:15,425 --> 00:43:18,485 He has OCD, oversized c**k down syndrome. 1106 00:43:20,305 --> 00:43:22,525 Now you don't know about the real Chico blood On my mamas. 1107 00:43:22,525 --> 00:43:24,045 This ain't s**t we used to. 1108 00:43:24,245 --> 00:43:27,005 This b***h patch strippers getting it really doing 1109 00:43:27,035 --> 00:43:28,045 s**t really busting. 1110 00:43:28,255 --> 00:43:30,485 Thats open type of s**t. You acting hard. 1111 00:43:30,485 --> 00:43:31,605 B***h that didn't get you smoke. 1112 00:43:31,905 --> 00:43:33,085 I'm choking on this fire b***h. 1113 00:43:33,105 --> 00:43:34,645 I'm aiming through the smoke. Remember 1114 00:43:34,645 --> 00:43:35,765 smoking Reggie in streets? 1115 00:43:35,785 --> 00:43:37,645 I'm still broke but I'm still doing drills. 1116 00:43:37,645 --> 00:43:39,325 B***h, I'm good with the ball. Hey b***h. 1117 00:43:39,945 --> 00:43:41,125 Hey what you man 1118 00:43:41,225 --> 00:43:43,565 for all up in my phone like you m***********g task 1119 00:43:43,565 --> 00:43:44,765 force all up in my phone. 1120 00:43:44,765 --> 00:43:46,165 B***h you different from my last one. 1121 00:43:46,405 --> 00:43:47,405 I ain't really tripping. B***h, 1122 00:43:47,405 --> 00:43:48,405 I'll bless you like a pastor. 1123 00:43:48,665 --> 00:43:49,845 You n***a really tripping. B***h. 1124 00:43:49,845 --> 00:43:51,085 I'll turn him in up Passport. 1125 00:43:51,325 --> 00:43:53,405 I ain't never lacking b***h Streets is who I blast for. 1126 00:43:53,405 --> 00:43:55,805 They looking for a plug. I'm the n***a that they asked for. 1127 00:43:55,825 --> 00:43:58,285 I'm hopping on his plate. I ain't even got a passport. 1128 00:43:58,285 --> 00:44:00,405 Daddy b***h. I'm from the gta. 1129 00:44:00,405 --> 00:44:02,565 Everything was going quite well until 1130 00:44:02,585 --> 00:44:05,565 for some reason Kyle's roommate became very offended 1131 00:44:05,585 --> 00:44:06,845 by Uncle Pill's performance. 1132 00:44:07,225 --> 00:44:09,285 Hey he who's up there? His hands aren't up. 1133 00:44:09,345 --> 00:44:11,685 His hands aren't up. No. Look at his n***a hands aren't up. 1134 00:44:12,305 --> 00:44:14,045 Hey dude, Doug 1135 00:44:14,625 --> 00:44:18,485 the n***a. 1136 00:44:18,485 --> 00:44:22,165 Brent, watch out. No, 1137 00:44:22,165 --> 00:44:23,885 that's my little n***a where he from. 1138 00:44:24,025 --> 00:44:26,365 It seems as if things are going in a negative direction. 1139 00:44:27,225 --> 00:44:30,485 Hey, what you wanna do? What the f**k is going on? 1140 00:44:30,815 --> 00:44:33,125 Don't tripping. He drunk check him. 1141 00:44:33,315 --> 00:44:35,485 Okay, well he is drunk but I don't give a f**k right now. 1142 00:44:35,485 --> 00:44:37,125 This that's, no one jumped him. 1143 00:44:37,125 --> 00:44:38,565 He wanted to get in my face. Hey bro, 1144 00:44:38,925 --> 00:44:40,365 I just broke my hands and I'm about to go 1145 00:44:40,365 --> 00:44:41,725 to the hospital. Kyle, there was just 1146 00:44:41,725 --> 00:44:42,725 A fight in your backyard. 1147 00:44:42,785 --> 00:44:45,285 No way. Was it sick? It was sick. Alright, 1148 00:44:45,385 --> 00:44:46,385 Bet. No. 1149 00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:57,245 Yeah, I definitely, uh, 1150 00:44:57,245 --> 00:44:59,325 definitely blame Bill Joyner a little bit just 1151 00:44:59,345 --> 00:45:02,605 for like the predatory style of like loans 1152 00:45:02,675 --> 00:45:03,685 that he would give out. 1153 00:45:03,685 --> 00:45:05,045 Like at the end of the day, 1154 00:45:05,045 --> 00:45:07,805 like targeting people while they're down is just wrong. 1155 00:45:07,805 --> 00:45:09,645 And I get like, I'm all about capitalism. 1156 00:45:09,665 --> 00:45:12,645 But at the same time though, like yes you 1157 00:45:12,645 --> 00:45:15,445 are. What up homie? 1158 00:45:16,305 --> 00:45:17,325 Hey Jelly Charlie, 1159 00:45:17,915 --> 00:45:20,765 Both you guys went up, uh, to hang with each 1160 00:45:20,765 --> 00:45:21,765 Other and hang with. Yeah, so 1161 00:45:21,765 --> 00:45:23,845 we're, we're just chilling in my bedroom right now 1162 00:45:23,955 --> 00:45:25,365 with, uh, Andrew and the gang. 1163 00:45:25,385 --> 00:45:27,565 Listen, there's gonna be a lot of hoes here tonight. 1164 00:45:27,585 --> 00:45:28,585 Any advice for me? 1165 00:45:29,705 --> 00:45:31,125 Uh, just be careful. 1166 00:45:31,265 --> 00:45:33,365 Double wrap and maybe wear a body condom. 1167 00:45:34,025 --> 00:45:35,765 Dad. Dad, should I get some women tonight? 1168 00:45:37,345 --> 00:45:38,525 Kaylee, you know what? 1169 00:45:38,825 --> 00:45:41,485 Uh, it's good to be friendly with all people, 1170 00:45:41,745 --> 00:45:45,445 but, uh, you gotta, you know, uh, love the one you're with, 1171 00:45:45,505 --> 00:45:47,685 huh uh but, uh, what, what does that even mean? 1172 00:45:47,685 --> 00:45:49,805 You know, see what you can get there. Kely. Huh? 1173 00:45:50,185 --> 00:45:52,885 As we wrapped up, the kids revealed a shocking fact 1174 00:45:52,885 --> 00:45:55,005 that I couldn't have ever believed in a 1175 00:45:55,005 --> 00:45:56,125 million years. Oh my 1176 00:45:56,125 --> 00:45:57,125 God. The craziest part 1177 00:45:57,125 --> 00:45:58,765 is he hasn't even ever met the 1178 00:45:58,765 --> 00:45:59,765 Guy. Yeah, the f*****g like 1179 00:45:59,765 --> 00:46:00,965 Bill Jordan, the f*****g guy 1180 00:46:00,965 --> 00:46:02,125 who ruined his life, he's 1181 00:46:02,125 --> 00:46:03,645 Never even met him. 1182 00:46:03,975 --> 00:46:07,405 Kelly Johnson has never met Bill Joiner. Bill 1183 00:46:07,505 --> 00:46:09,045 Joiner, The boogeyman, 1184 00:46:09,265 --> 00:46:12,205 the man he claims ruined his life, destroyed his career 1185 00:46:12,505 --> 00:46:13,605 and separated his family. 1186 00:46:13,875 --> 00:46:15,365 I've never met him. I've never met him. 1187 00:46:15,385 --> 00:46:16,605 So it was over the phone. Yeah. 1188 00:46:16,785 --> 00:46:18,805 My understanding is he's kind of a smaller guy. 1189 00:46:18,915 --> 00:46:20,085 He's one of those small guys. 1190 00:46:20,565 --> 00:46:23,045 I would have to think that he's kind of an elitist, uh, 1191 00:46:23,425 --> 00:46:24,805 you know, cabalist type person. 1192 00:46:25,125 --> 00:46:27,565 A little puny, wealthy guy who just tries to destroy people. 1193 00:46:27,825 --> 00:46:30,845 He could just be a person behind the curtain 1194 00:46:31,065 --> 00:46:32,685 who just maybe doesn't exist 1195 00:46:32,685 --> 00:46:34,605 and maybe he's just the guy that they write checks to. 1196 00:46:34,885 --> 00:46:36,165 I don't know if that's even a real guy. 1197 00:46:36,465 --> 00:46:38,925 And so after Kyle's party, I hatched a new idea. 1198 00:46:39,515 --> 00:46:42,165 Mediation. I figured that if I could sit Kelly down 1199 00:46:42,165 --> 00:46:44,085 with Bill, maybe they could just have a man 1200 00:46:44,085 --> 00:46:45,765 to man straightforward dialogue 1201 00:46:45,765 --> 00:46:47,085 and that would take the edge off of it. 1202 00:46:47,155 --> 00:46:49,045 What do you think you'd say to him if you saw him in person? 1203 00:46:49,825 --> 00:46:52,845 Um, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not a vulgar person. 1204 00:46:53,065 --> 00:46:54,125 I'm not a violent person. 1205 00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:57,125 I would just ask him, why'd you do this bill? 1206 00:46:57,305 --> 00:46:58,845 And was it worth it? And 1207 00:46:58,845 --> 00:47:01,405 Thankfully Kyle and Kaylee were on board with the idea. 1208 00:47:01,585 --> 00:47:03,845 So like, obviously that outcome right now is like final, 1209 00:47:04,235 --> 00:47:06,005 like, like that house has been sold already. 1210 00:47:06,005 --> 00:47:07,285 Like there's other people living in there. 1211 00:47:07,285 --> 00:47:08,965 Like that's, that's done. You know? Mm-hmm. 1212 00:47:09,145 --> 00:47:12,365 But, um, some type of like, you know, reevaluation of 1213 00:47:12,365 --> 00:47:14,125 that case and like what happened with like, 1214 00:47:14,125 --> 00:47:16,085 maybe provide some closure for Kelly, if 1215 00:47:16,085 --> 00:47:17,405 that made sense. Literally 1216 00:47:17,405 --> 00:47:19,805 Kelly and his arch nemesis were just able to like, 1217 00:47:19,805 --> 00:47:22,405 punch out a conversation. We wouldn't be here. 1218 00:47:23,145 --> 00:47:24,165 We gotta find Bill joint. 1219 00:47:24,755 --> 00:47:26,405 Yeah, I think, uh, that's the next step. 1220 00:47:30,465 --> 00:47:32,045 If I wanted to pull this off, I had 1221 00:47:32,045 --> 00:47:33,405 to first reach Bill Joyner. 1222 00:47:33,405 --> 00:47:35,085 So I began by writing a polite email. 1223 00:47:35,085 --> 00:47:36,245 First we have to choose a poem. 1224 00:47:36,885 --> 00:47:38,525 Helvetica in Nue, regular 11 point. 1225 00:47:38,755 --> 00:47:39,885 He's not gonna be able to read that. He 1226 00:47:39,885 --> 00:47:40,925 is like 65. What kind 1227 00:47:40,925 --> 00:47:42,125 Of font do you think Bill Joyner would use? 1228 00:47:42,565 --> 00:47:44,205 18 point font. The Pirate Bull. 1229 00:47:45,275 --> 00:47:46,325 Wait. Graffiti font, 1230 00:47:46,745 --> 00:47:47,965 Subway, New York Fight. 1231 00:47:48,395 --> 00:47:50,005 Take take your community. 1232 00:47:50,345 --> 00:47:52,645 Am American typewriter is pretty like creepy. 1233 00:47:53,035 --> 00:47:55,685 Like to Hello Bill. We've been watching you 1234 00:47:57,135 --> 00:47:58,135 While you Sleep. 1235 00:47:59,315 --> 00:48:01,285 Sincerely Kelly's army. 1236 00:48:02,425 --> 00:48:04,525 All right, so Newton's new Roman. 1237 00:48:05,415 --> 00:48:08,405 Hello, Mr. Joiner. Joiner. 1238 00:48:08,635 --> 00:48:10,765 Several months ago I met an interesting character 1239 00:48:10,765 --> 00:48:12,245 by the name of Kelly Johnson. Um, 1240 00:48:12,255 --> 00:48:16,885 Since the election, Kelly has been on the front lines 1241 00:48:17,185 --> 00:48:19,765 of, of nearly every, every Patriot 1242 00:48:19,765 --> 00:48:23,245 Protest, Capital P and demanding a recount 1243 00:48:23,825 --> 00:48:26,485 And accosting strangers, You look out for Bill, join. 1244 00:48:26,515 --> 00:48:29,165 Stay away from him. Shady Canyon. No trespassing 1245 00:48:29,395 --> 00:48:31,805 With the absurd allegation. 1246 00:48:32,145 --> 00:48:33,405 If you see him keep running. 1247 00:48:33,545 --> 00:48:36,605 He stole my home down in Nel Gale Ranch. He's a bad guy that 1248 00:48:37,065 --> 00:48:38,605 You Stole. Stole, stole his 1249 00:48:38,705 --> 00:48:40,245 His home. Home. Yeah. 1250 00:48:40,505 --> 00:48:42,125 Do you guys know who Hunter Biden is? 1251 00:48:42,475 --> 00:48:45,085 I've heard that Hunter Biden and Bill Joyner are tight. 1252 00:48:45,435 --> 00:48:47,565 He's tied, he's tied in with the White House. Oops. 1253 00:48:47,565 --> 00:48:49,125 Careful, careful. If you go this way, 1254 00:48:49,125 --> 00:48:50,165 look after Bill Joyner. 1255 00:48:51,385 --> 00:48:53,165 I'm sure you're familiar. I hope you 1256 00:48:53,375 --> 00:48:54,965 You'd be willing to talk, talk more with me. 1257 00:48:55,225 --> 00:48:57,645 That's good. Maybe we could even play golf sometime. 1258 00:49:00,515 --> 00:49:02,525 Yeah, I like that. You guys ready? Should I hit it? 1259 00:49:02,555 --> 00:49:03,555 Yeah, send it. 1260 00:49:10,045 --> 00:49:13,295 Unfortunately, bill did not respond to our emails 1261 00:49:13,715 --> 00:49:16,135 or our phone calls and didn't acknowledge the edible 1262 00:49:16,135 --> 00:49:17,655 arrangement that we sent to his residence. 1263 00:49:18,555 --> 00:49:21,295 So I figured it was time to pay his workplace a visit. 1264 00:49:26,675 --> 00:49:28,695 Bill's office was a lifeless corporate park. 1265 00:49:28,835 --> 00:49:30,415 The kind of place I'd never want to be, 1266 00:49:30,635 --> 00:49:32,335 but surely if I wanted to find this guy 1267 00:49:32,485 --> 00:49:34,095 that was the place. So what's on your mind? 1268 00:49:34,235 --> 00:49:35,935 Uh, my lunch right now, frankly, 1269 00:49:36,435 --> 00:49:38,495 we get a free lunch on Fridays, 1270 00:49:38,705 --> 00:49:41,055 which is very exciting for me. 1271 00:49:41,295 --> 00:49:42,655 I guess I hate paying for lunch. 1272 00:49:42,835 --> 00:49:45,015 Our company is actually holding like an event today 1273 00:49:45,145 --> 00:49:47,655 where they're going out and they're actually buying us lunch 1274 00:49:47,835 --> 00:49:49,575 and is a way to kind of like boost some 1275 00:49:49,575 --> 00:49:50,935 morale and get people back together. So. 1276 00:49:51,075 --> 00:49:52,615 So what's your uh, 40 year plan? 1277 00:49:52,795 --> 00:49:54,375 Get rich and retire young. What 1278 00:49:54,375 --> 00:49:55,735 Do you wanna do when you retire? Golf, 1279 00:49:56,345 --> 00:49:58,215 Drink and hang out with my friends and family. 1280 00:49:58,395 --> 00:50:00,295 What's your favorite way to haze someone into the company? 1281 00:50:00,635 --> 00:50:02,575 Rotten Eggs in the desk is a good one. 1282 00:50:03,035 --> 00:50:04,695 Uh, super glue them to their chair. 1283 00:50:04,915 --> 00:50:06,095 That's one of my favorites. 1284 00:50:06,445 --> 00:50:08,455 When this guy started, he doesn't know this, 1285 00:50:08,555 --> 00:50:11,815 but I took all of his tires off his car and rotated them. 1286 00:50:12,205 --> 00:50:13,975 He's got Get a second. 1287 00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:16,175 Do you know Bill Joiner? I don't. 1288 00:50:16,175 --> 00:50:18,455 Have you ever seen Bill Joiner before? No. 1289 00:50:18,625 --> 00:50:21,215 Since a friendly introduction seemed out of the question, 1290 00:50:21,395 --> 00:50:23,615 and being that his office was technically in a public 1291 00:50:23,855 --> 00:50:26,135 building, I figured I'd also take the elevator 1292 00:50:26,415 --> 00:50:27,485 upstairs to give the door a knock. 1293 00:50:27,745 --> 00:50:29,445 I'm actually kind of nervous 'cause if he is here, 1294 00:50:29,955 --> 00:50:31,605 it's gonna be like super f*****g awkward. 1295 00:50:31,605 --> 00:50:32,805 What the hell am I gonna say? Hey, 1296 00:50:32,805 --> 00:50:34,165 we're we're making a documentary film. 1297 00:50:34,165 --> 00:50:35,165 Yeah. 1298 00:50:59,275 --> 00:50:59,765 F**k dude. 1299 00:51:07,035 --> 00:51:08,565 They're probably all working from home, man. 1300 00:51:10,145 --> 00:51:12,325 So I'm thinking that like literally nobody works here. 1301 00:51:13,145 --> 00:51:15,685 As the phone calls and the emails continued, 1302 00:51:15,765 --> 00:51:18,285 I figured I'd also pay to join the country club 1303 00:51:18,285 --> 00:51:19,965 where he's listed as a member in the hopes 1304 00:51:19,965 --> 00:51:22,005 of maybe running into him at the Chinese 1305 00:51:22,175 --> 00:51:23,325 lunar New Year's celebration. 1306 00:51:31,145 --> 00:51:34,365 So we're at the, uh, shady Canyon, lunar New Year banquet. 1307 00:51:34,925 --> 00:51:36,845 I think, uh, a lot of these people probably know Bill, 1308 00:51:37,025 --> 00:51:39,205 but uh, I don't want to blow my chances, 1309 00:51:39,205 --> 00:51:41,245 so I'm not gonna ask too many people if they know. 1310 00:51:41,245 --> 00:51:43,805 Bill. Do you know a guy named, uh, bill Joiner? I do not. 1311 00:51:43,915 --> 00:51:45,085 Have you seen this guy before? 1312 00:51:45,345 --> 00:51:47,405 Uh, I don't think so. 1313 00:51:50,185 --> 00:51:52,965 As the chances of physically meeting Bill became slimmer 1314 00:51:52,965 --> 00:51:55,085 and slimmer, I hatched a new theory, which is 1315 00:51:55,085 --> 00:51:57,245 that maybe Kelly didn't actually need to sit down with him 1316 00:51:57,245 --> 00:51:58,845 for mediation and it would be enough 1317 00:51:58,845 --> 00:52:01,805 to just physically see him in the flesh, even from afar, 1318 00:52:02,025 --> 00:52:05,245 to realize that Bill is no more than a mortal man made 1319 00:52:05,245 --> 00:52:07,125 of meat and bones, much like himself. 1320 00:52:07,585 --> 00:52:10,445 Not a baby eating Democrat demon from the underworld, 1321 00:52:10,625 --> 00:52:11,925 as Kelly often paints it. 1322 00:52:12,115 --> 00:52:13,605 Yeah, I mean, that's how my dad paints him, 1323 00:52:13,905 --> 00:52:17,925 is like this big scary like monster, which maybe he is like, 1324 00:52:18,225 --> 00:52:19,485 you know, metaphorically. 1325 00:52:19,625 --> 00:52:23,445 But in the end, he is probably just like a 60-year-old 1326 00:52:23,525 --> 00:52:24,885 conservative white male. 1327 00:52:25,065 --> 00:52:26,525 I'm literally describing my dad, but 1328 00:52:26,625 --> 00:52:27,805 Seeing no other option. 1329 00:52:27,965 --> 00:52:30,005 I ordered Kelly and I some Gilly suits online 1330 00:52:30,145 --> 00:52:32,925 and hatched a plan to get a covert visual ID on bill from 1331 00:52:32,925 --> 00:52:34,805 as close to his house as legally possible. 1332 00:52:35,275 --> 00:52:38,245 Bill. Truth and Justice is heading your way. 1333 00:52:38,595 --> 00:52:40,885 Nothing more, nothing less. 1334 00:52:41,275 --> 00:52:45,205 Bill, we're gonna get you, we to get you. Happy Halloween. 1335 00:52:47,305 --> 00:52:50,965 Ha ha. Bill Joy winner. We're coming out to get you. 1336 00:52:51,055 --> 00:52:53,005 We're gonna find you. We're gonna find out if you really 1337 00:52:53,015 --> 00:52:56,085 exist and if you don't exist, we're gonna verify that too. 1338 00:52:56,585 --> 00:52:58,645 Oh yeah. Look at this. I think it's over here 1339 00:52:59,095 --> 00:53:00,805 where those big McMansions are. 1340 00:53:01,235 --> 00:53:03,325 It's like the f*****g Wild West Iron Man. 1341 00:53:03,505 --> 00:53:04,565 But this was the old West. 1342 00:53:04,795 --> 00:53:06,725 He'd be dead right now because someone would've shot him. 1343 00:53:06,725 --> 00:53:08,485 And the old Wesley wouldn't have tolerated this. 1344 00:53:08,705 --> 00:53:09,845 Not that I would do that and 1345 00:53:09,845 --> 00:53:10,965 it wouldn't have even had to be me. 1346 00:53:10,965 --> 00:53:12,285 It would've been someone before me. 1347 00:53:12,565 --> 00:53:15,005 'cause he did this to other people. He screws people. 1348 00:53:15,345 --> 00:53:16,565 He definitely screwed me. 1349 00:53:17,065 --> 00:53:19,045 And, and then he hides if he's hiding, 1350 00:53:19,165 --> 00:53:20,285 I think he's hiding right up there. 1351 00:53:20,595 --> 00:53:21,685 What would you, uh, say 1352 00:53:21,685 --> 00:53:24,005 to him if you saw him? Why'd you rip me off? 1353 00:53:24,225 --> 00:53:26,325 As we tried different vantage points, we came 1354 00:53:26,325 --> 00:53:28,805 to the realization that from literally nowhere on the hiking 1355 00:53:28,805 --> 00:53:30,765 trail was the inside of Bill's house 1356 00:53:30,865 --> 00:53:32,405 or driveway actually visible. 1357 00:53:33,025 --> 00:53:34,925 So unfortunately it was another failed mission. 1358 00:53:35,225 --> 00:53:37,725 But, uh, you know, this is just part of the journey. Oh, 1359 00:53:37,755 --> 00:53:38,755 Just the beginning, man. 1360 00:53:39,135 --> 00:53:42,645 Appreciate it. Yeah, you're a good Gilly. You're 1361 00:53:42,645 --> 00:53:43,645 A good Gilly Man. Thanks. 1362 00:53:43,645 --> 00:53:44,325 Thanks. 1363 00:53:46,765 --> 00:53:49,275 After trying and failing three different times 1364 00:53:49,295 --> 00:53:50,595 to find Bill, my team 1365 00:53:50,615 --> 00:53:53,115 and I pretty much hit a creative standstill with the film 1366 00:53:53,175 --> 00:53:55,035 and really had no idea how to proceed. 1367 00:53:55,335 --> 00:53:57,355 The only option to get in contact with them is 1368 00:53:57,355 --> 00:53:58,675 to pursue unconventional measures. 1369 00:53:58,765 --> 00:53:59,635 We've already done every 1370 00:53:59,635 --> 00:54:01,395 unconventional measure if possible. We've 1371 00:54:01,395 --> 00:54:04,635 Done, we've done most unconventional measure measures, 1372 00:54:04,695 --> 00:54:06,275 but like, we haven't left him a letter. 1373 00:54:06,655 --> 00:54:08,435 Nah, letter. Just like creepy 1374 00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:10,275 as f**k. Just call him again. 1375 00:54:10,585 --> 00:54:12,275 Yeah, let's do that. How many more numbers do you have? 1376 00:54:12,645 --> 00:54:15,035 Quite a few. Hey Bill, this is Evan Gilbert Katz. 1377 00:54:15,135 --> 00:54:16,275 I'm just calling 'cause I reached out 1378 00:54:16,275 --> 00:54:17,515 to you over email a couple days ago 1379 00:54:17,565 --> 00:54:18,955 about a documentary that I'm making. 1380 00:54:19,215 --> 00:54:20,875 You're very familiar with my subject. 1381 00:54:21,195 --> 00:54:22,355 I was wondering if you'd be available 1382 00:54:22,535 --> 00:54:23,835 for comment or interview. 1383 00:54:23,835 --> 00:54:25,515 Feel free to reach me anytime at this number. 1384 00:54:25,535 --> 00:54:27,475 Thanks for your time. Hope you have a great day. You 1385 00:54:27,535 --> 00:54:28,675 Hit him up on email twice. 1386 00:54:28,775 --> 00:54:29,955 You've hit him up on LinkedIn. 1387 00:54:29,955 --> 00:54:31,075 You've also left that message. 1388 00:54:31,175 --> 00:54:33,115 So there's no way that Bill doesn't know about 1389 00:54:33,115 --> 00:54:34,355 you and about the documentary. 1390 00:54:34,455 --> 00:54:35,555 So if he doesn't respond, it means 1391 00:54:35,555 --> 00:54:37,435 that he doesn't want to like, get near the story. 1392 00:54:37,695 --> 00:54:39,395 If the purpose of the movie is 1393 00:54:39,395 --> 00:54:41,115 to bring Kelly's family back together, 1394 00:54:41,345 --> 00:54:43,475 it's probably actually worth it to hire an actor 1395 00:54:43,815 --> 00:54:45,795 to play Bill Joiner, someone who's dealt 1396 00:54:45,795 --> 00:54:47,835 with like deprogramming people from cults. 1397 00:54:47,855 --> 00:54:49,755 And then we should have them act 1398 00:54:49,755 --> 00:54:52,115 as Bill in virtual reality model the VR 1399 00:54:52,115 --> 00:54:53,235 character off of Bill. 1400 00:54:53,625 --> 00:54:55,755 Tell Kelly that Bill's too scared to meet him in real life 1401 00:54:55,755 --> 00:54:57,395 because Kelly thinks that Bill's like a huge 1402 00:54:57,595 --> 00:54:58,635 p***y. Anyway, my 1403 00:54:58,635 --> 00:55:00,715 Understanding is he's kind of a smaller guy. 1404 00:55:00,785 --> 00:55:03,075 He's one of those small guys that has a lot of money, 1405 00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:07,075 Have the bill actor be so familiar with the documentary 1406 00:55:07,075 --> 00:55:08,875 and subject matter that like he can't slip up 1407 00:55:09,885 --> 00:55:11,225 and just say like, all the right s**t. 1408 00:55:11,695 --> 00:55:13,065 They wanna know everything about us. 1409 00:55:13,255 --> 00:55:14,425 They wanna control us, 1410 00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,145 but they don't wanna tell us anything. 1411 00:55:16,425 --> 00:55:18,425 I think it has something to do with the truth about what, 1412 00:55:18,425 --> 00:55:20,185 what, what really the f**k is going on here. 1413 00:55:20,445 --> 00:55:21,865 And they're hiding behind the doors. 1414 00:55:21,935 --> 00:55:23,785 They're hiding behind the damn doors here. 1415 00:55:24,015 --> 00:55:26,305 Just like Bill Joyner hides behind a PO box, 1416 00:55:26,535 --> 00:55:28,625 just like he hides behind the gates. A shady canyon. 1417 00:55:29,245 --> 00:55:31,265 I'm sorry Kelly, it was wrong of me to do that, 1418 00:55:31,285 --> 00:55:34,625 and I'm so sorry you deserved better than that, Kelly. 1419 00:55:37,545 --> 00:55:38,545 I just think it would be cool. So 1420 00:55:38,545 --> 00:55:40,425 the bill actor is the therapist. 1421 00:55:40,605 --> 00:55:42,865 The bill actor is the therapist connected 1422 00:55:42,865 --> 00:55:46,425 to a VR system. Basically, 1423 00:55:46,965 --> 00:55:48,985 You need to reconnect with your family, Kelly, 1424 00:55:49,355 --> 00:55:51,905 disconnect from politics and reconnect with your family 1425 00:55:51,965 --> 00:55:53,185 before it's too late. 1426 00:55:56,205 --> 00:55:57,985 The real thesis of this documentary is 1427 00:55:57,985 --> 00:55:59,785 that men benefit from therapy. 1428 00:56:01,015 --> 00:56:03,865 Wait, how do we even like know 1429 00:56:04,605 --> 00:56:07,185 if Bill Joyner actually stole Kelly's home? 1430 00:56:07,905 --> 00:56:10,985 Actually stole Kelly's home, actually stole Kelly's home, 1431 00:56:11,665 --> 00:56:12,785 actually stole Kelly's home. 1432 00:56:13,645 --> 00:56:16,025 As we deliberated on ways to conclude the film, 1433 00:56:16,265 --> 00:56:18,585 I reached a sobering realization, which is 1434 00:56:18,585 --> 00:56:21,265 that I hadn't really been questioning Kelly's narrative, 1435 00:56:21,765 --> 00:56:24,365 not just about the home, but about himself. 1436 00:56:25,105 --> 00:56:27,725 He painted this image of himself as a squeaky clean, 1437 00:56:27,735 --> 00:56:30,765 Midwestern family man, who by no fault of his own, 1438 00:56:31,115 --> 00:56:33,285 fell into the jaws of a heartless scammer 1439 00:56:33,285 --> 00:56:35,125 who took everything from him for no reason 1440 00:56:35,125 --> 00:56:36,965 Because of Bill Joyner stealing our home. 1441 00:56:37,365 --> 00:56:40,405 I was away from my son for his senior year of high school, 1442 00:56:40,535 --> 00:56:42,365 which can't, can't be replaced. 1443 00:56:42,865 --> 00:56:44,685 But while investigating Bill, I failed 1444 00:56:44,685 --> 00:56:46,085 to also investigate Kelly. 1445 00:56:46,685 --> 00:56:49,365 I mean, who was Kelly really? 1446 00:56:49,765 --> 00:56:51,965 I went back and re-watched all of our interview footage, 1447 00:56:51,965 --> 00:56:53,365 which totaled over a hundred hours 1448 00:56:53,465 --> 00:56:55,605 to see if maybe I'd missed something along the way 1449 00:56:55,905 --> 00:56:57,525 or if there was any loopholes in his story. 1450 00:56:57,705 --> 00:57:00,045 And I found one specifically surrounding 1451 00:57:00,165 --> 00:57:01,325 his disbarment as a lawyer. 1452 00:57:01,465 --> 00:57:02,725 Here's what Kelly said about it. 1453 00:57:02,915 --> 00:57:05,125 Because of what Bill Joyner did to me, 1454 00:57:05,525 --> 00:57:07,605 I ended up getting suspended by the state bar. 1455 00:57:07,865 --> 00:57:09,605 Uh, why? Uh, just 1456 00:57:09,605 --> 00:57:11,245 for a couple small little issues with clients. 1457 00:57:11,245 --> 00:57:12,845 Nothing. Just a little slap on the wrist. Stop. 1458 00:57:13,185 --> 00:57:14,205 No, no big deal. Then 1459 00:57:14,205 --> 00:57:15,725 I look back at the interview with Kaylee 1460 00:57:15,725 --> 00:57:18,485 who said he was disbarred far before the foreclosure. 1461 00:57:19,045 --> 00:57:23,325 I think I was about 13 when my dad was disbarred 1462 00:57:23,325 --> 00:57:24,565 and couldn't practice law anymore. 1463 00:57:24,795 --> 00:57:27,125 Then we were evicted. Um, two years later. 1464 00:57:27,665 --> 00:57:28,805 To me, the chicken coming 1465 00:57:28,805 --> 00:57:31,365 before the egg here was a huge loophole in Kelly's story. 1466 00:57:31,505 --> 00:57:34,045 So I decided to sit down with attorney Ben Marsh, who agreed 1467 00:57:34,045 --> 00:57:35,285 to open Kelly's legal file 1468 00:57:35,345 --> 00:57:37,805 and explained to me exactly why he was disbarred. 1469 00:57:37,865 --> 00:57:39,685 My name is Ben Marsh. I'm an attorney here 1470 00:57:39,685 --> 00:57:40,805 in Los Angeles, California. 1471 00:57:41,205 --> 00:57:42,805 I jumped on Google first 1472 00:57:42,805 --> 00:57:45,485 and foremost just to try to find a case number, uh, 1473 00:57:45,585 --> 00:57:49,285 and ultimately came across Kelly Johnson's Orange County 1474 00:57:49,605 --> 00:57:51,365 Superior Court action that he had filed against 1475 00:57:51,365 --> 00:57:52,805 William g Joiner. 1476 00:57:53,975 --> 00:57:56,005 Kelly had 21 counts of misconduct. 1477 00:57:57,145 --> 00:57:58,325 Yes, three counts 1478 00:57:58,325 --> 00:58:01,445 of entering into improper transactions with clients. 1479 00:58:01,585 --> 00:58:04,845 Two counts of advising, violation of the law, two counts 1480 00:58:04,845 --> 00:58:06,485 of failing to report sanctions 1481 00:58:06,485 --> 00:58:07,725 of a thousand dollars or more. 1482 00:58:07,865 --> 00:58:10,725 Two counts of failing to employ only means consistent 1483 00:58:10,725 --> 00:58:13,605 with two counts of failing to obey court count orders, count 1484 00:58:13,605 --> 00:58:16,165 of failing to cooperate in a state bar disciplinary 1485 00:58:16,805 --> 00:58:19,605 investigation, properly accepting compensation from one 1486 00:58:19,605 --> 00:58:21,285 other than the client, one count of failing 1487 00:58:21,345 --> 00:58:22,765 to return client's file. 1488 00:58:23,065 --> 00:58:24,805 So did Bill Joyner steal his home? 1489 00:58:25,505 --> 00:58:28,005 Not from what I saw in any of the pleadings. 1490 00:58:28,005 --> 00:58:31,045 I mean, it looks like he's cherry picking the facts to, 1491 00:58:31,105 --> 00:58:32,645 to support his narrative. 1492 00:58:33,315 --> 00:58:35,205 That loan was secured by a deed of trust. 1493 00:58:35,345 --> 00:58:38,245 So if a borrower, uh, is incapable 1494 00:58:38,265 --> 00:58:39,525 or fails to repay the loan, 1495 00:58:39,825 --> 00:58:43,285 the the lender has a security interest, a way 1496 00:58:43,285 --> 00:58:44,725 of getting repaid. 1497 00:58:45,145 --> 00:58:47,805 Mr. Johnson failed to repay that loan. 1498 00:58:48,425 --> 00:58:50,965 Uh, and that sort of set into motion the chain of events 1499 00:58:51,195 --> 00:58:52,925 that caused him to lose his home. 1500 00:58:53,025 --> 00:58:56,325 And he filed quite a few other lawsuits 1501 00:58:56,325 --> 00:58:57,685 and ultimately was deemed 1502 00:58:57,685 --> 00:58:59,885 to be what's called a Vexatious litigant. 1503 00:59:00,285 --> 00:59:03,405 A vexatious litigant is someone that files lawsuits, 1504 00:59:03,545 --> 00:59:06,365 you know, without having good cause to do so 1505 00:59:06,665 --> 00:59:08,045 and doing it over and over. 1506 00:59:08,925 --> 00:59:10,005 Ultimately, the court wants 1507 00:59:10,005 --> 00:59:11,805 to prevent someone from being able to do that. 1508 00:59:12,155 --> 00:59:13,805 Upon further research, I learned that 1509 00:59:13,805 --> 00:59:15,845 after being banned from California courts, 1510 00:59:15,895 --> 00:59:17,525 Kelly shifted fronts to Nevada 1511 00:59:17,625 --> 00:59:20,685 and attempted to shake down NFL Player Ezekiel Elliott 1512 00:59:20,685 --> 00:59:22,005 for $500,000. 1513 00:59:22,545 --> 00:59:25,125 Six, signed to Dallas Cowboys jerseys and a meet 1514 00:59:25,125 --> 00:59:26,805 and greet with cowboys owner Jerry Jones. 1515 00:59:27,015 --> 00:59:29,525 After Ezekiel knocked down Kyle while he was working 1516 00:59:29,885 --> 00:59:31,045 security at a festival in Vegas, 1517 00:59:35,995 --> 00:59:38,805 Ezekiel Elliot's legal team believes he's being 1518 00:59:39,005 --> 00:59:40,085 extorted right now. 1519 00:59:40,205 --> 00:59:42,445 A security guard is pressing charges against the 1520 00:59:42,445 --> 00:59:43,485 Cowboys running bag. 1521 00:59:43,665 --> 00:59:45,165 If I had been there, Zeke 1522 00:59:45,165 --> 00:59:46,445 would've been the next guy on the ground. 1523 00:59:46,905 --> 00:59:49,325 He wanted a half a million dollars to be quiet. 1524 00:59:49,735 --> 00:59:54,325 Other requests were $25,000 cash tickets to Cowboys games. 1525 00:59:54,895 --> 00:59:56,765 Press conference with Zeke Elliot. 1526 00:59:57,885 --> 01:00:01,445 I also learned that Bill Joiner offered Kelly $75,000 1527 01:00:01,445 --> 01:00:04,285 after the foreclosure for him to stop putting up flyers, 1528 01:00:04,285 --> 01:00:06,885 which he flat out refused to me, though it makes sense, 1529 01:00:07,185 --> 01:00:08,485 it doesn't fit his narrative. 1530 01:00:08,505 --> 01:00:10,965 So I decided to sit down with the one person I hadn't spoken 1531 01:00:10,985 --> 01:00:13,445 to yet, his ex-wife, Shannon, who agreed 1532 01:00:13,445 --> 01:00:15,765 to give me a candid interview about Kelly's 1533 01:00:15,765 --> 01:00:16,925 financial decision making. 1534 01:00:16,925 --> 01:00:18,725 During those so-called perfect years, 1535 01:00:19,035 --> 01:00:21,525 Kelly's always had a a money issue. 1536 01:00:21,685 --> 01:00:22,765 I mean, we never had enough. 1537 01:00:23,105 --> 01:00:25,005 We like to spend money and like I said, we were, 1538 01:00:25,005 --> 01:00:27,925 he was never good about saving, looking for the future kids. 1539 01:00:28,225 --> 01:00:30,205 It was just, I'll deal with it when I need to deal with it. 1540 01:00:30,345 --> 01:00:32,045 I'm successful, I'm good. I I can do it. 1541 01:00:32,115 --> 01:00:34,565 Driving a thousand dollar a month, Beamer, we had rabbits, 1542 01:00:34,585 --> 01:00:36,605 pot, belly pigs, several dogs, several cats. 1543 01:00:36,845 --> 01:00:37,605 I won't get into the numbers 1544 01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:38,805 'cause they're not relevant, but 1545 01:00:38,855 --> 01:00:39,855 47 animals. 1546 01:00:39,995 --> 01:00:41,365 Kelly's always had a big ego, 1547 01:00:41,365 --> 01:00:43,285 Double digit rabbits, double digit cats. 1548 01:00:43,565 --> 01:00:45,805 I gotta drive the car, I gotta be in the right address. 1549 01:00:46,105 --> 01:00:47,805 My next door neighbor was the vice president, 1550 01:00:47,805 --> 01:00:49,365 chief General counsel of Taco Bell. 1551 01:00:49,705 --> 01:00:53,845 Not a good feeling for financial security and, and saving 1552 01:00:53,945 --> 01:00:57,605 and planning, especially having a law firm that Kelly had 1553 01:00:57,605 --> 01:00:59,885 that cost as much as our mortgage did. 1554 01:00:59,885 --> 01:01:01,405 Mm-hmm. So that was hard to swallow. 1555 01:01:01,705 --> 01:01:04,405 But I tried to talk to Kelly throughout the years about 1556 01:01:04,415 --> 01:01:07,005 maybe downsizing, uh, leaving Newport. 1557 01:01:07,065 --> 01:01:08,805 Mm-hmm. And coming to Laguna Hills. 1558 01:01:09,135 --> 01:01:11,445 Rents were half the cost he got, like I said, 1559 01:01:11,445 --> 01:01:12,485 it was a big ego problem. 1560 01:01:12,585 --> 01:01:14,205 He had the staff to pay for. 1561 01:01:14,385 --> 01:01:16,285 He had, he had a lot to pay for. 1562 01:01:16,705 --> 01:01:18,565 So what can you tell us about Bill Joyner 1563 01:01:18,565 --> 01:01:19,725 and his loan company? 1564 01:01:20,265 --> 01:01:21,325 Oh gosh. You know, 1565 01:01:21,765 --> 01:01:23,365 I don't believe they were corrupt in any way. 1566 01:01:23,775 --> 01:01:26,125 Kelly fell behind on his payments, pure and simple, 1567 01:01:26,785 --> 01:01:28,245 and this thing happened. 1568 01:01:28,545 --> 01:01:31,165 But Bill Joyner, you know, I think he was just doing 1569 01:01:31,595 --> 01:01:33,285 what he was able to do legally. 1570 01:01:33,665 --> 01:01:34,925 That's all I can say about him. 1571 01:01:36,635 --> 01:01:37,865 After this conversation, 1572 01:01:38,045 --> 01:01:39,865 my mission began to shift fronts again. 1573 01:01:39,985 --> 01:01:42,585 I wanted to figure out how to help Kelly take accountability 1574 01:01:42,645 --> 01:01:44,265 for his own financial recklessness, 1575 01:01:44,265 --> 01:01:45,385 which plunged him into debt, 1576 01:01:45,385 --> 01:01:46,745 gave him in abysmal credit score, 1577 01:01:46,745 --> 01:01:47,825 and put him in the position 1578 01:01:47,825 --> 01:01:49,705 to take Bill's loan in the first place. 1579 01:01:49,895 --> 01:01:51,785 This wouldn't mean blaming himself entirely, 1580 01:01:51,885 --> 01:01:54,585 but I believe that Kelly leaning into his own role in this 1581 01:01:54,865 --> 01:01:57,585 situation as opposed to bills would cause a mentality shift 1582 01:01:57,645 --> 01:02:00,665 and allow Kelly to properly grieve without spiraling into 1583 01:02:00,665 --> 01:02:02,345 fantasies about payback and revenge. 1584 01:02:02,485 --> 01:02:04,545 But knowing how deep in his own narrative Kelly was, 1585 01:02:04,705 --> 01:02:05,745 I figured that any kind 1586 01:02:05,745 --> 01:02:08,025 of confrontation would probably backfire. 1587 01:02:08,325 --> 01:02:09,945 So I decided to just hold my breath 1588 01:02:10,085 --> 01:02:11,305 and wait in the hopes 1589 01:02:11,305 --> 01:02:13,345 that one day Kelly would've some kind of breakthrough. 1590 01:02:13,365 --> 01:02:15,345 And sure enough, he hit me up about a year later 1591 01:02:15,365 --> 01:02:16,985 and said he wanted to meet up urgently 1592 01:02:17,005 --> 01:02:18,945 to share some newfound revelations. You 1593 01:02:19,045 --> 01:02:20,925 Know, it's just, you know, I've come 1594 01:02:20,925 --> 01:02:24,845 to the realization on some things, uh, time, time is, uh, 1595 01:02:25,025 --> 01:02:26,685 you know, pretty good in terms of healing 1596 01:02:27,305 --> 01:02:30,685 and, uh, I just, I, I don't have any animosity towards him. 1597 01:02:31,065 --> 01:02:32,485 You know, he did what he did. 1598 01:02:32,645 --> 01:02:35,085 I think he will pay whatever price he needs 1599 01:02:35,085 --> 01:02:37,885 to pay in this world, or, or, or, or hereafter. 1600 01:02:38,225 --> 01:02:40,725 You know, I just, I can't, I can't focus my, 1601 01:02:41,225 --> 01:02:44,085 my whole life on, on trying to re regain what I had 1602 01:02:44,105 --> 01:02:47,365 or try to recoup from him or take it outta his flesh. 1603 01:02:47,625 --> 01:02:50,245 Um, you know, that revenge period, it, it, 1604 01:02:50,265 --> 01:02:51,605 it certainly happens, but you 1605 01:02:51,605 --> 01:02:52,805 can't let it be your whole life. 1606 01:02:53,225 --> 01:02:54,725 You know, there's a lot of evil out there 1607 01:02:54,745 --> 01:02:57,165 and we don't see it coming a lot of times, but it's there 1608 01:02:57,225 --> 01:02:59,845 and, and it, uh, can come up and hit you upside the head or, 1609 01:03:00,145 --> 01:03:02,845 or take away everything you had. And, um, yeah. And I was 1610 01:03:02,845 --> 01:03:04,845 Gonna ask you, you know, looking back at your life 1611 01:03:04,845 --> 01:03:06,085 before the eviction, you know, 1612 01:03:06,105 --> 01:03:07,205 do you think there was anything, 1613 01:03:07,465 --> 01:03:09,405 any behavior patterns that put you at risks? 1614 01:03:09,635 --> 01:03:11,205 Well, that's a good question and, 1615 01:03:11,205 --> 01:03:14,165 and I, I probably could have done, done things differently 1616 01:03:14,425 --> 01:03:17,405 so that the Bill Junior situation didn't put me 1617 01:03:17,405 --> 01:03:18,445 in such a bad spot. 1618 01:03:18,705 --> 01:03:19,965 You know, I could have sold the home, 1619 01:03:20,065 --> 01:03:23,765 but, you know, I was so dedicated to trying to preserve 1620 01:03:23,765 --> 01:03:25,285 what I had, kinda like you and your business 1621 01:03:25,285 --> 01:03:26,805 that you don't want to have to give it up. 1622 01:03:26,865 --> 01:03:30,765 So I, you know, I, um, human nature, 1623 01:03:31,055 --> 01:03:32,125 maybe we were a little selfish 1624 01:03:32,225 --> 01:03:33,965 and I've tried to, you know, work on things 1625 01:03:34,065 --> 01:03:36,725 and uh, you know, and try to walk a better path. 1626 01:03:36,785 --> 01:03:38,325 So there's things that, that I've done 1627 01:03:38,325 --> 01:03:39,365 and that, that you've done 1628 01:03:39,365 --> 01:03:41,605 and that we can do, you know, going forward. 1629 01:03:41,785 --> 01:03:45,085 But, uh, our family has not been together as a family unit. 1630 01:03:45,105 --> 01:03:47,365 And that's the one thing that I, I really regret 1631 01:03:47,365 --> 01:03:48,805 that we haven't been able to maintain. 1632 01:03:49,425 --> 01:03:50,805 And, but, you know, I love our kids. 1633 01:03:51,025 --> 01:03:54,045 And, and Kaylee just graduated UCLA, uh, 1634 01:03:54,305 --> 01:03:56,285 Kyle's up in his last year at Chico State, 1635 01:03:56,825 --> 01:03:59,645 and my youngest daughter's, uh, a senior at Laguna Hills. 1636 01:03:59,825 --> 01:04:02,165 And, uh, and, and I love him dearly, 1637 01:04:02,165 --> 01:04:04,125 and it just, that's, that's the toughest part is, 1638 01:04:04,145 --> 01:04:06,965 is keeping you know me away from our children during that, 1639 01:04:06,965 --> 01:04:08,245 that point in time in their lives. 1640 01:04:09,145 --> 01:04:11,525 Coincidentally, Kaylee hit me up shortly after 1641 01:04:11,625 --> 01:04:12,845 and took a much different tone. 1642 01:04:12,875 --> 01:04:15,365 Despite bestowing me with these newfound realizations, 1643 01:04:15,455 --> 01:04:17,165 Kelly was apparently drifting further 1644 01:04:17,185 --> 01:04:18,445 and further away from his family 1645 01:04:18,585 --> 01:04:20,805 and told them that he was planning to move to Arizona 1646 01:04:20,905 --> 01:04:23,085 to be closer to the patriot scene, which they saw 1647 01:04:23,085 --> 01:04:24,805 as the final step in his total estrangement. 1648 01:04:24,825 --> 01:04:26,525 So they wanted to give him an intervention 1649 01:04:26,585 --> 01:04:28,725 and present Kelly with an ultimatum commit 1650 01:04:28,725 --> 01:04:31,285 to staying in California and seek mental health treatment, 1651 01:04:31,285 --> 01:04:32,445 or they'd cut 'em off entirely. 1652 01:04:32,635 --> 01:04:33,965 Kyle and Kaylee also wanted 1653 01:04:33,965 --> 01:04:36,045 to get their youngest daughter Sydney involved, 1654 01:04:36,225 --> 01:04:38,165 who had only met very briefly in passing, 1655 01:04:38,345 --> 01:04:39,445 but now felt compelled 1656 01:04:39,445 --> 01:04:41,205 to share her perspective in the documentary. 1657 01:04:46,095 --> 01:04:47,045 How's everybody feeling? 1658 01:04:47,775 --> 01:04:48,965 Optimistic, I'd say, 1659 01:04:49,235 --> 01:04:50,205 Yeah, feeling pretty good 1660 01:04:50,205 --> 01:04:51,285 about like, what we're about to do. 1661 01:04:51,385 --> 01:04:54,165 So our whole goal today is to like, you know, just say 1662 01:04:54,165 --> 01:04:55,685 that we love him and stuff and like, you know, 1663 01:04:55,685 --> 01:04:56,805 explain like what's been going on, 1664 01:04:57,515 --> 01:04:58,845 What made you guys feel like now 1665 01:04:58,845 --> 01:04:59,965 is the time for an intervention. 1666 01:05:00,465 --> 01:05:02,205 Seeing that like, you know, we're approaching another 1667 01:05:02,405 --> 01:05:03,525 election year, that's probably gonna be one of the most 1668 01:05:03,525 --> 01:05:04,725 tense election years in history. 1669 01:05:05,225 --> 01:05:07,125 Uh, you know, just getting Kelly on the right path 1670 01:05:07,125 --> 01:05:09,005 before something like that starts seems like the right idea. 1671 01:05:09,185 --> 01:05:10,845 And I'm really glad that I reached out to you 1672 01:05:10,845 --> 01:05:13,285 and that we're here today because this is like the best 1673 01:05:13,605 --> 01:05:15,645 possible scenario that I think we could ever be in. 1674 01:05:15,865 --> 01:05:18,325 For sure. Thankfully, I was able to enlist the help 1675 01:05:18,385 --> 01:05:20,645 of a professional interventionist named Heather Hayes 1676 01:05:20,745 --> 01:05:22,845 who agreed to take the case on pro bono. 1677 01:05:23,105 --> 01:05:25,205 Hey, thanks so much for coming. I really appreciate it. 1678 01:05:25,275 --> 01:05:26,805 Good to see you. Yeah, good to see you too. 1679 01:05:27,365 --> 01:05:28,445 Absolutely. So, I'm Heather Hayes. 1680 01:05:28,465 --> 01:05:30,765 I'm a family consultant. I work out of Atlanta, 1681 01:05:30,825 --> 01:05:31,965 but I work nationally 1682 01:05:31,965 --> 01:05:34,565 and internationally all over helping families come together 1683 01:05:34,705 --> 01:05:36,325 and put together plans for healing. 1684 01:05:36,625 --> 01:05:38,325 How many times do you think you've done this before? 1685 01:05:38,505 --> 01:05:40,165 Oh, I've done probably 3000. 1686 01:05:40,405 --> 01:05:42,805 Needless to say. I felt like we were in good hands 1687 01:05:43,145 --> 01:05:44,145 For today. I think 1688 01:05:44,145 --> 01:05:47,005 what's most important is that the family be able 1689 01:05:47,005 --> 01:05:49,845 to talk about their feelings, where they're at, 1690 01:05:49,905 --> 01:05:53,605 and what their wishes and desires are for hope and healing. 1691 01:05:54,225 --> 01:05:55,925 So anyway, so I'm really honored to be here 1692 01:05:56,225 --> 01:05:57,765 and my goal for today is 1693 01:05:57,765 --> 01:06:00,445 that we just have a loving, respectful talk. 1694 01:06:00,495 --> 01:06:02,165 We're not, I'm gonna give some ground rules. 1695 01:06:02,585 --> 01:06:04,405 We are not talking about politics, 1696 01:06:04,745 --> 01:06:07,525 but what we are gonna talk about is we're gonna talk about 1697 01:06:08,115 --> 01:06:11,845 relationships and how you all can 1698 01:06:12,715 --> 01:06:15,125 feel more connected is what's important is 1699 01:06:15,125 --> 01:06:17,765 that even though we're all different, which makes us unique 1700 01:06:17,785 --> 01:06:20,605 and individual, is that we learn how to connect in ways, 1701 01:06:21,155 --> 01:06:22,405 feel closer to each other. 1702 01:06:22,835 --> 01:06:25,485 They love you. There is so much love for you in this room. 1703 01:06:25,785 --> 01:06:29,445 Um, you know, they, they miss you and they need both of you. 1704 01:06:29,605 --> 01:06:30,605 I mean, they need their parents. 1705 01:06:31,235 --> 01:06:33,645 It's different connecting with our kids when they're kids, 1706 01:06:33,645 --> 01:06:35,765 when they're teens, then they become adults. 1707 01:06:35,785 --> 01:06:37,605 And there's this shift that happens where 1708 01:06:38,305 --> 01:06:40,725 now we have an adult child, you know, 1709 01:06:40,745 --> 01:06:41,885 to parent relationship. 1710 01:06:41,945 --> 01:06:44,645 And it can be really actually just incredible 1711 01:06:44,705 --> 01:06:46,045 as incredible it is as it is. 1712 01:06:46,045 --> 01:06:49,685 Seeing them from tiny grow up 1713 01:06:49,685 --> 01:06:50,885 and go through all those stages. 1714 01:06:51,345 --> 01:06:53,925 Having adult children can really be magnificent too, 1715 01:06:53,985 --> 01:06:55,845 is they go through all of their milestones 1716 01:06:56,065 --> 01:07:00,285 and you know, they, you know, graduate start careers, 1717 01:07:00,895 --> 01:07:03,005 start families, whatever it is they wanna do, 1718 01:07:03,345 --> 01:07:04,805 and they need both of you. 1719 01:07:04,885 --> 01:07:08,325 I mean, they need their parents. What I also want is 1720 01:07:08,325 --> 01:07:10,965 for everyone to be honest and open and loving. 1721 01:07:11,185 --> 01:07:14,005 So I always ask people like, think about like, 1722 01:07:14,005 --> 01:07:16,685 here's your opportunity, what do you wanna say? 1723 01:07:17,305 --> 01:07:20,125 What's going well? What are your concerns? 1724 01:07:20,275 --> 01:07:22,725 Like, what's your ask from this meeting? 1725 01:07:23,225 --> 01:07:25,685 So I always have people take a little time and, 1726 01:07:25,825 --> 01:07:27,445 and write it down. 1727 01:07:27,865 --> 01:07:30,445 So what I'd like to do, just to kind of get started, 1728 01:07:30,945 --> 01:07:33,725 is like go around and let everybody kind of read, you know, 1729 01:07:34,075 --> 01:07:36,525 read from their heart, talk to you from their heart about 1730 01:07:36,695 --> 01:07:39,285 where, where they're at, what their goals are for today. 1731 01:07:39,345 --> 01:07:40,405 Is that okay? Sure. 1732 01:07:40,765 --> 01:07:44,965 Absolutely. So Dear back then, 1733 01:07:45,425 --> 01:07:47,045 you are my daddy who would do anything 1734 01:07:47,045 --> 01:07:48,045 to protect his little girl. 1735 01:07:49,455 --> 01:07:50,645 Smart. It's okay. 1736 01:07:51,175 --> 01:07:52,245 After getting evicted, 1737 01:07:52,765 --> 01:07:54,165 I didn't feel like we just lost the house. 1738 01:07:54,805 --> 01:07:56,365 I felt like I lost my daddy too. 1739 01:07:57,105 --> 01:07:59,325 Bad things happen in life that are out of your control. 1740 01:07:59,555 --> 01:08:01,565 It's inevitable. What matters is 1741 01:08:01,565 --> 01:08:02,685 how you respond to these things. 1742 01:08:03,265 --> 01:08:05,925 And when our family broke apart, you left it 1743 01:08:05,925 --> 01:08:07,165 to mom to get us back together. 1744 01:08:07,605 --> 01:08:08,885 I don't exactly blame you for that, 1745 01:08:09,385 --> 01:08:10,525 but I blame you for your lack 1746 01:08:10,525 --> 01:08:11,765 of involvement and responsibility. 1747 01:08:12,265 --> 01:08:13,485 Having an absent father 1748 01:08:13,505 --> 01:08:16,445 for the last seven years has affected me in so many ways. 1749 01:08:17,155 --> 01:08:19,365 I've gone through so much that you don't even know about. 1750 01:08:19,715 --> 01:08:21,205 I've been battling with an eating disorder 1751 01:08:21,225 --> 01:08:23,965 for the last three years, and when I was at my lowest, 1752 01:08:26,605 --> 01:08:28,005 I truly couldn't see a way out. 1753 01:08:29,265 --> 01:08:31,005 And I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Now. 1754 01:08:31,265 --> 01:08:34,685 If I can get help and try to change, you can too. 1755 01:08:35,545 --> 01:08:37,125 I'd like to think that I have a good understanding 1756 01:08:37,125 --> 01:08:38,205 of why you are the way you are. 1757 01:08:38,585 --> 01:08:40,845 And I'm not here to judge you for it. None of us are. 1758 01:08:41,605 --> 01:08:42,885 I just want you to confront the things 1759 01:08:42,885 --> 01:08:45,445 that are holding you back from living life to the fullest. 1760 01:08:46,905 --> 01:08:48,885 I'm writing this letter to remind you of how much I love you 1761 01:08:49,025 --> 01:08:50,805 and that you'll always be my dad no matter what. 1762 01:08:51,745 --> 01:08:53,405 I'm also writing it to make you aware of 1763 01:08:53,405 --> 01:08:55,285 how your actions have affected me as a person. 1764 01:08:55,995 --> 01:08:57,325 Most importantly, though, 1765 01:08:57,975 --> 01:09:01,165 everything we want today is just an investment in your 1766 01:09:01,165 --> 01:09:03,525 future, our future as a family. 1767 01:09:04,905 --> 01:09:07,765 That's all. Thank You. Thank you sin. Love 1768 01:09:07,825 --> 01:09:08,825 God. 1769 01:09:08,995 --> 01:09:09,995 Love you son. 1770 01:09:11,065 --> 01:09:14,165 Dad pops. I have so many great memories of us. 1771 01:09:14,585 --> 01:09:16,125 You have taught me how to do things. Good job. 1772 01:09:16,125 --> 01:09:17,925 Always do the right thing. Even me if it's not easy. 1773 01:09:18,155 --> 01:09:20,085 Good job. I'm proud to be here at one and only son. 1774 01:09:20,755 --> 01:09:22,965 However, at the cost of not having you present, 1775 01:09:23,145 --> 01:09:24,125 all I could ever want from you 1776 01:09:24,125 --> 01:09:25,245 is something money could never buy. 1777 01:09:25,725 --> 01:09:26,805 I want you to be my dad again. 1778 01:09:27,205 --> 01:09:28,805 I want us to rebuild what we have 1779 01:09:28,945 --> 01:09:30,565 and take a step in the right direction. 1780 01:09:30,825 --> 01:09:32,725 All of this is still possible, 1781 01:09:32,825 --> 01:09:34,965 and it's not too late to start or do the right thing. 1782 01:09:35,685 --> 01:09:37,005 I love you, dad, and we'll always. 1783 01:09:37,315 --> 01:09:38,725 However, we need to come together 1784 01:09:38,745 --> 01:09:40,885 and make the right choices to get you to a healthy place 1785 01:09:40,885 --> 01:09:42,685 where the dynamic of our family can be restored. 1786 01:09:42,835 --> 01:09:44,125 That'll be a hard road ahead of us. 1787 01:09:44,125 --> 01:09:45,325 However, I firmly believe 1788 01:09:45,325 --> 01:09:47,725 with the utmost confidence we can accomplish this task 1789 01:09:48,105 --> 01:09:49,285 and have you be a great father. 1790 01:09:49,295 --> 01:09:50,845 Again. I love you dad, 1791 01:09:50,865 --> 01:09:53,165 and I want to think more than you being 1792 01:09:53,165 --> 01:09:54,285 here for me and the family. 1793 01:09:54,295 --> 01:09:55,565 Again, I love you, 1794 01:09:58,345 --> 01:09:59,345 Dad. 1795 01:09:59,845 --> 01:10:01,245 I don't know who my father is anymore. 1796 01:10:02,025 --> 01:10:03,405 I'm scared of the man. I see. 1797 01:10:04,445 --> 01:10:06,885 I know you love me, but I don't feel loved by you. 1798 01:10:07,065 --> 01:10:08,805 You love talking about the idea of me. 1799 01:10:09,145 --> 01:10:11,525 You are UCLA graduate daughter that you're so proud of, 1800 01:10:11,905 --> 01:10:13,805 but I don't actually feel that love. 1801 01:10:14,485 --> 01:10:17,245 I feel like a prop. More bonus points for that. 1802 01:10:17,245 --> 01:10:19,205 One time you told me I was going to hell for being gay, 1803 01:10:19,205 --> 01:10:20,525 and the same phone call that you called 1804 01:10:20,525 --> 01:10:22,325 and asked me for money that happened. 1805 01:10:22,755 --> 01:10:25,805 Five kids, dad, not that that happened anytime soon, 1806 01:10:26,435 --> 01:10:28,085 like you wouldn't be fit to see them. 1807 01:10:28,905 --> 01:10:30,005 It is so difficult 1808 01:10:30,265 --> 01:10:32,325 to be mourning you while you're still alive. 1809 01:10:33,065 --> 01:10:35,725 We haven't been a family, and it's not 1810 01:10:35,725 --> 01:10:38,045 because we don't have a house, but because me, Kyle, 1811 01:10:38,065 --> 01:10:39,285 and Cindy don't have a father. 1812 01:10:40,105 --> 01:10:43,525 But most importantly, I don't know how many times I need 1813 01:10:43,525 --> 01:10:46,685 to say this, I want you to come back to your family. 1814 01:10:47,205 --> 01:10:48,725 I need my dad's love and support. 1815 01:10:49,505 --> 01:10:51,165 If you can't do this for your family 1816 01:10:51,305 --> 01:10:53,005 and everyone who loves you in the world, 1817 01:10:53,195 --> 01:10:55,005 then I will be the saddest girl in the world. 1818 01:10:56,545 --> 01:10:59,045 Andrew, I'm next up. You're 1819 01:10:59,045 --> 01:11:00,045 Next up. 1820 01:11:00,595 --> 01:11:03,125 Dear Kelly, when I first met you two 1821 01:11:03,125 --> 01:11:06,525 and a half years ago on April 11th, 2021, 1822 01:11:07,145 --> 01:11:10,765 you were carrying four flags at one time, surrounded 1823 01:11:10,765 --> 01:11:13,525 by a swarm of Antifa super soldiers 1824 01:11:14,075 --> 01:11:15,565 with blood leaking from your head. 1825 01:11:16,245 --> 01:11:17,685 I always figured you wondered why I followed 1826 01:11:17,705 --> 01:11:18,805 up after that first meeting. 1827 01:11:19,345 --> 01:11:21,285 And it was because of your lethal fixation 1828 01:11:21,585 --> 01:11:22,645 on Bill Joiner, bill 1829 01:11:22,705 --> 01:11:24,485 Joiner, bill Joiner, bill Joiner, 1830 01:11:24,485 --> 01:11:25,685 look after Bill Joiner. So 1831 01:11:25,685 --> 01:11:27,445 I figured that through investigating with what happened 1832 01:11:27,445 --> 01:11:30,125 with Bill Joiner, I could get to the bottom of what happened 1833 01:11:30,385 --> 01:11:32,245 to you psychologically 1834 01:11:32,705 --> 01:11:35,005 and hopefully reveal some universal truths about the 1835 01:11:35,205 --> 01:11:38,085 pipeline between deep personal loss and radical politics. 1836 01:11:38,465 --> 01:11:41,165 And through learning about your storied past, I was able 1837 01:11:41,165 --> 01:11:43,405 to sort of understand the extreme pain 1838 01:11:43,405 --> 01:11:44,765 that you went through after the eviction. 1839 01:11:45,205 --> 01:11:47,565 I mean, as a father, you have a fundamental obligation 1840 01:11:47,565 --> 01:11:48,605 to take care of your family. 1841 01:11:48,825 --> 01:11:51,605 That's like the core, almost primitive responsibility. 1842 01:11:51,985 --> 01:11:53,405 And I can only imagine the pain 1843 01:11:53,405 --> 01:11:55,725 and anguish that resulted from after that situation. 1844 01:11:56,215 --> 01:11:58,525 Being suddenly unable to provide for your family 1845 01:11:58,665 --> 01:12:01,005 and exiled from your core social group is enough 1846 01:12:01,005 --> 01:12:02,125 to drive anybody insane. 1847 01:12:02,465 --> 01:12:04,325 And when I was going through a really hard time in my 1848 01:12:04,685 --> 01:12:06,325 personal life, you were, you know, one 1849 01:12:06,325 --> 01:12:07,525 of the first people to reach out 1850 01:12:07,525 --> 01:12:09,005 to me. Here's what you said, 1851 01:12:09,425 --> 01:12:10,425 Andrew, this is Kelly. 1852 01:12:10,545 --> 01:12:12,605 Hey, hey, how you doing? Just want to touch base. 1853 01:12:12,785 --> 01:12:14,285 So I hope you're doing well. Hang in there. 1854 01:12:14,555 --> 01:12:17,365 It's never over till it's over, and you are not done yet. 1855 01:12:17,785 --> 01:12:20,565 So keep your chin up and you're gonna make 1856 01:12:20,565 --> 01:12:21,565 It. And as I've said for 1857 01:12:21,565 --> 01:12:22,125 a long time, 1858 01:12:22,405 --> 01:12:24,285 I will always be there for you, Andrew. And 1859 01:12:24,285 --> 01:12:27,005 Once again, it's not, you know, it's not what happens 1860 01:12:27,005 --> 01:12:29,605 because something happens to everybody. 1861 01:12:29,665 --> 01:12:31,325 You get knocked down at some point in time, 1862 01:12:31,385 --> 01:12:35,445 but people remember how you respond to adversity. 1863 01:12:35,865 --> 01:12:38,245 You give up and you go away, then you weren't anything. 1864 01:12:38,505 --> 01:12:41,245 If you are something, then you continue to stand up 1865 01:12:41,245 --> 01:12:42,605 and you move on and you stay strong. 1866 01:12:42,745 --> 01:12:44,045 And I, I see that as being, you 1867 01:12:45,125 --> 01:12:48,285 Remember Clipper's owner, Donald Sperling took a big hit 1868 01:12:48,305 --> 01:12:50,805 and had to sell the team and he was 85. 1869 01:12:51,425 --> 01:12:55,005 You're 26, and America loves to give people second chances. 1870 01:12:55,385 --> 01:12:56,765 So if not too horrendous, 1871 01:12:56,985 --> 01:12:59,125 you'll almost always be given a second chance. 1872 01:13:00,425 --> 01:13:02,805 PS I'm not preaching and I'm a flawed human being, 1873 01:13:03,065 --> 01:13:04,165 but I'm trying hard. 1874 01:13:04,675 --> 01:13:06,405 Love you, man. Hang in there and I'll talk to you soon. 1875 01:13:06,405 --> 01:13:08,895 Take care. We're gonna make it outta you. 1876 01:13:09,595 --> 01:13:11,855 And in the same way that you encouraged me to step up 1877 01:13:11,855 --> 01:13:14,135 to the plate when I was at my lowest, I want 1878 01:13:14,135 --> 01:13:17,175 to encourage you to do the same and really step up 1879 01:13:17,175 --> 01:13:20,455 because your kids love you and they're pretty young. 1880 01:13:20,915 --> 01:13:23,055 And I remember when you first saw me, you said to me, 1881 01:13:23,365 --> 01:13:25,335 bill Joiner destroyed my family. 1882 01:13:25,475 --> 01:13:28,095 He destroyed my family, destroyed my 25 year business. 1883 01:13:28,395 --> 01:13:31,895 He didn't, everybody's still here. 1884 01:13:32,755 --> 01:13:34,335 God always gives people circumstances 1885 01:13:34,755 --> 01:13:35,815 and I think this is yours. 1886 01:13:36,545 --> 01:13:38,815 Appreciate that. Yeah, man. Thank you Andrew. 1887 01:13:40,935 --> 01:13:42,575 I went through a lot. We all went through a lot. 1888 01:13:42,595 --> 01:13:44,095 Yes, I've seen what's impacted me. 1889 01:13:44,125 --> 01:13:46,695 I've been through a lot of pain suffering. Yes. 1890 01:13:47,115 --> 01:13:50,015 And so I've been trying to get myself in a position so 1891 01:13:50,015 --> 01:13:51,495 that I can go forward. 1892 01:13:51,595 --> 01:13:53,935 And at the same time, there's been things going on 1893 01:13:54,145 --> 01:13:57,215 throughout our country that have, you know, 1894 01:13:57,215 --> 01:13:59,175 obviously inundated a lot of us. 1895 01:13:59,475 --> 01:14:01,055 And, and, and my thought is, 1896 01:14:01,075 --> 01:14:05,975 unless I could do things to help that situation 1897 01:14:05,975 --> 01:14:08,095 after our house was taken, when our country taken, 1898 01:14:08,115 --> 01:14:10,215 if our country's taken, it's all over for everybody. 1899 01:14:10,395 --> 01:14:11,805 And that's been my focus 1900 01:14:12,875 --> 01:14:16,765 because if we don't have a country to live in, then we, it, 1901 01:14:16,835 --> 01:14:18,845 it's over our, our freedoms, our rights 1902 01:14:18,845 --> 01:14:20,605 and everything that, that we, you know, have, 1903 01:14:20,605 --> 01:14:23,245 have believed in since the formation of our country is gone. 1904 01:14:23,505 --> 01:14:24,965 And, uh, you know, I'm a proud person 1905 01:14:25,065 --> 01:14:28,885 and you know, I haven't had any type of, of counseling 1906 01:14:29,185 --> 01:14:31,725 or advice or assistance or anything. 1907 01:14:31,945 --> 01:14:35,685 I'm just, um, I'm sorry for causing the pain that I have. 1908 01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:39,325 I had, you know, I it I've been walking in my shoes 1909 01:14:39,345 --> 01:14:40,525 and it's been a tough road 1910 01:14:41,505 --> 01:14:43,805 and, uh, I'm, I'm sorry I haven't been there for you 1911 01:14:43,805 --> 01:14:44,845 as much as I could have been. 1912 01:14:45,005 --> 01:14:48,525 I just, it's been so difficult for me 1913 01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:50,005 and I just need to be more understanding 1914 01:14:50,025 --> 01:14:51,445 of the impact on you also. 1915 01:14:51,505 --> 01:14:53,765 And I, and I haven't been, and I apologize for that. 1916 01:14:54,825 --> 01:14:58,765 So there's a program in Pennsylvania, it's a program 1917 01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:00,885 that does a lot of work with families, 1918 01:15:01,385 --> 01:15:03,205 but it does a lot of work with individuals. 1919 01:15:03,945 --> 01:15:07,765 Um, a big part of what they'll ask you to do 1920 01:15:08,185 --> 01:15:12,125 and what take a look at is to stop smoking weed 1921 01:15:12,305 --> 01:15:16,205 for a little while and then also take a look at what is it 1922 01:15:16,205 --> 01:15:18,085 underneath there that the weed's covering up. 1923 01:15:19,225 --> 01:15:24,005 And so this is an opportunity that would help you get, 1924 01:15:25,865 --> 01:15:30,285 you know, started in that, you know, nothing's a quick fix. 1925 01:15:30,615 --> 01:15:31,885 Right. But there's certainly 1926 01:15:32,255 --> 01:15:33,885 jumpstarts that can be really helpful. 1927 01:15:34,635 --> 01:15:35,765 Yeah. Yes. 1928 01:15:38,265 --> 01:15:42,115 Yeah. Well, I, I'd be, I'd definitely be, um, you know, 1929 01:15:42,115 --> 01:15:44,635 interested and receptive, uh, to that. 1930 01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:46,835 That makes me really happy. 1931 01:15:49,105 --> 01:15:52,035 Ex-wife say, 1932 01:15:57,535 --> 01:15:59,275 oh my God, we, yeah, 1933 01:15:59,295 --> 01:16:01,475 We don't have a lot of time, but Jelly, I'm really proud 1934 01:16:01,475 --> 01:16:02,635 of you for taking a step. 1935 01:16:02,895 --> 01:16:04,435 We just want you to build a solid foundation, 1936 01:16:04,435 --> 01:16:05,555 man, and get the help you need, need 1937 01:16:05,555 --> 01:16:07,115 To, it's, I love you so much. 1938 01:16:07,385 --> 01:16:09,155 Love you babe. Yeah, 1939 01:16:09,155 --> 01:16:10,155 I've been here. Was was Saddam 1940 01:16:10,155 --> 01:16:10,515 here? 1941 01:16:10,905 --> 01:16:12,355 Yeah, Saddam was here. Yeah. 1942 01:16:12,625 --> 01:16:15,075 Okay. Bye. You guys love you. I'll keep you posted. 1943 01:16:15,075 --> 01:16:16,755 I'll talk to you soon. Bye Kyle. Love you buddy. Love 1944 01:16:16,755 --> 01:16:17,395 You too. I'm proud of you. 1945 01:16:17,775 --> 01:16:18,915 You too. See you, man. 1946 01:16:19,065 --> 01:16:20,835 Love you babe. Love you. Okay, love you. Love 1947 01:16:20,835 --> 01:16:21,835 You. Sounds good. So 1948 01:16:21,835 --> 01:16:22,515 hot. All right. 1949 01:16:22,515 --> 01:16:23,835 Do you sy love you, babe. Get well. 1950 01:16:24,575 --> 01:16:26,395 You, I'm so Proud of you. Thank you, babe. 1951 01:16:26,545 --> 01:16:28,315 Okay, take care. Okay, thank you. Bye-bye. 1952 01:16:28,335 --> 01:16:31,435 God bless America. Take care. Bye. You guys love you. 1953 01:16:31,615 --> 01:16:34,195 And just like that we were off headed straight 1954 01:16:34,195 --> 01:16:35,435 to LAX. They 1955 01:16:35,435 --> 01:16:38,555 Need dad to be there, you know, to, to support and, 1956 01:16:38,615 --> 01:16:40,075 and be a bigger part of their life. 1957 01:16:40,135 --> 01:16:42,715 And I'm prepared to, you know, take steps to do that. 1958 01:16:43,435 --> 01:16:46,515 I, I look to, to learn about myself, 1959 01:16:46,565 --> 01:16:47,915 learn about our situation, 1960 01:16:47,925 --> 01:16:50,795 learn about putting ourselves in a, in a better situation 1961 01:16:50,815 --> 01:16:53,515 and, and what I can do to help, uh, you know, help do that. 1962 01:16:54,055 --> 01:16:55,835 Hey, Karen, man, thank you. I love you, man. 1963 01:16:55,835 --> 01:16:57,675 Appreciate everything man. No problem. 1964 01:16:57,985 --> 01:16:59,715 Good luck out there, man. Stay on track. I appreciate it. 1965 01:16:59,715 --> 01:17:01,635 Thank you very much. Out to Philly, 1966 01:17:01,795 --> 01:17:04,075 LAX God bless America, Kelly g Patriot. 1967 01:17:29,325 --> 01:17:31,685 I didn't study, I'm just Kidding. Kyle never studies, 1968 01:17:33,145 --> 01:17:35,765 You guys talk to him a lot when he was in there, right? 1969 01:17:35,765 --> 01:17:37,325 Yeah. How would you describe what that, 1970 01:17:37,325 --> 01:17:38,445 that your correspondence with 1971 01:17:38,445 --> 01:17:39,445 Him? I would say 1972 01:17:39,445 --> 01:17:41,805 I had like one of the strongest relationships 1973 01:17:41,805 --> 01:17:43,165 with my father that I ever had. 1974 01:17:43,345 --> 01:17:45,565 You know, we talked, like every day he'd call me, 1975 01:17:45,905 --> 01:17:48,165 I'd hear daily updates, you know, 1976 01:17:48,165 --> 01:17:49,565 he was taking his vitamins. 1977 01:17:49,565 --> 01:17:52,085 They had unlimited chocolate milk. He was a happy guy. 1978 01:17:52,185 --> 01:17:54,485 He was, I mean, come on, you know, he, he met some, um, 1979 01:17:54,485 --> 01:17:55,725 rainbow people, he told me. 1980 01:17:55,825 --> 01:17:58,125 So, you know, it was good for our relationship. 1981 01:17:58,325 --> 01:17:59,405 I, I do think it was, 1982 01:17:59,705 --> 01:18:00,805 but I mean, when he was there, 1983 01:18:00,805 --> 01:18:03,005 it really seemed like he was progressing. 1984 01:18:03,025 --> 01:18:05,645 He was having a lot of realizations 1985 01:18:05,825 --> 01:18:07,245 and such about so many different things. 1986 01:18:07,545 --> 01:18:08,885 The first time, maybe a week 1987 01:18:08,885 --> 01:18:11,725 or so in, he admitted to me that he had an addiction. 1988 01:18:12,065 --> 01:18:13,285 And I'm, I'm, I'm outta whack. 1989 01:18:13,525 --> 01:18:15,285 I mean, addiction is a disease. 1990 01:18:15,675 --> 01:18:17,525 Addiction's a disease, and I had a disease. 1991 01:18:17,705 --> 01:18:20,205 So I'm, I'm trying to, you know, get my disease treated 1992 01:18:20,435 --> 01:18:21,435 Just crazy. Right. 1993 01:18:21,435 --> 01:18:24,285 Have you ever heard him say that before in his life? 1994 01:18:24,915 --> 01:18:27,205 Also? I talked to Kelly a couple times during treatment 1995 01:18:27,205 --> 01:18:29,445 and it really seemed like he was changing for the better. 1996 01:18:29,805 --> 01:18:32,405 I, I saw a, uh, psychologist two days ago, 1997 01:18:32,425 --> 01:18:34,685 and you know, what I learned there was that I dealt 1998 01:18:34,685 --> 01:18:38,005 with about four major life events within about three 1999 01:18:38,005 --> 01:18:40,565 or four years, which, you know, f****d up my head. 2000 01:18:40,565 --> 01:18:42,725 And I, you know, I didn't even realize I had nobody to talk 2001 01:18:42,725 --> 01:18:43,685 to, never talked to anybody, 2002 01:18:43,685 --> 01:18:45,765 never got any treatment or anything. So what 2003 01:18:45,765 --> 01:18:48,085 Do you think those four major life events were? My 2004 01:18:48,165 --> 01:18:50,245 Mom passing away, losing my home, 2005 01:18:50,385 --> 01:18:52,165 losing my business, losing my family. 2006 01:18:52,355 --> 01:18:54,805 When it came to genuine spiritual breakthroughs, 2007 01:18:54,895 --> 01:18:56,645 Kelly took things to a whole new level 2008 01:18:56,645 --> 01:18:57,645 that I couldn't believe I 2009 01:18:57,645 --> 01:18:58,645 Need to do. I need to go 2010 01:18:58,645 --> 01:18:59,245 back and I need 2011 01:18:59,245 --> 01:19:02,045 to forgive Bill Joy on apologize to him for not taking care 2012 01:19:02,045 --> 01:19:03,365 of my financial obligations 2013 01:19:03,385 --> 01:19:05,925 and put me in that position for him to do that to me 2014 01:19:05,925 --> 01:19:07,445 and my family kind of thing. 2015 01:19:07,585 --> 01:19:09,165 You know, I created it. I can't, you know, 2016 01:19:09,165 --> 01:19:11,405 I can't put my finger fingers in everybody else forever. 2017 01:19:11,705 --> 01:19:14,245 He said, I need to apologize to Bill Joiner. Oh yeah. 2018 01:19:14,345 --> 01:19:17,085 He was saying stuff that I was like, what the f**k is happen 2019 01:19:17,085 --> 01:19:18,085 Happening? But then it kind of, 2020 01:19:18,085 --> 01:19:20,365 uh, morphed into, oh, 2021 01:19:20,525 --> 01:19:23,725 I have an addiction and so all 2022 01:19:23,725 --> 01:19:25,245 of my actions are not my fault. 2023 01:19:25,505 --> 01:19:27,485 Mm-hmm. That's kind of what it turned into. 2024 01:19:27,585 --> 01:19:30,005 And then it turned into, I can only be saved 2025 01:19:30,025 --> 01:19:31,605 by God and everything I've done. 2026 01:19:31,985 --> 01:19:34,565 It was the addiction, not me, it was the weed. 2027 01:19:34,725 --> 01:19:35,845 I didn't make those decisions. 2028 01:19:36,065 --> 01:19:37,805 You know, a lot of people go to rehab 2029 01:19:37,905 --> 01:19:40,445 and usually try to find that higher power within themselves. 2030 01:19:40,905 --> 01:19:42,405 Mm-hmm. And I think 2031 01:19:43,155 --> 01:19:45,805 that would've been a lot more useful if my dad more found it 2032 01:19:45,805 --> 01:19:49,165 within himself and like took, you know, accountability 2033 01:19:49,225 --> 01:19:50,765 for all of his actions instead 2034 01:19:50,765 --> 01:19:53,285 of blaming it on all external factors. 2035 01:19:53,285 --> 01:19:55,365 Accountability is like the biggest thing. Like yeah. 2036 01:19:55,625 --> 01:19:57,365 To like wipe the slate clean and like move forward. 2037 01:19:57,365 --> 01:19:58,845 There's been no ability to like move forward. 2038 01:19:59,105 --> 01:20:00,565 He still is not at terms of himself 2039 01:20:00,585 --> 01:20:02,605 to like accept what's happened, but 2040 01:20:02,765 --> 01:20:03,805 There was still, there was a lot 2041 01:20:03,805 --> 01:20:05,765 of optimism also when he came back. 2042 01:20:06,425 --> 01:20:10,085 But then it kind of started going away when we were pushing, 2043 01:20:10,545 --> 01:20:13,765 oh dad, like, get out of your s****y living situation 2044 01:20:13,765 --> 01:20:15,365 where you're just stuck. The 2045 01:20:15,425 --> 01:20:17,605 Dow on my closet collapsed about two weeks 2046 01:20:17,745 --> 01:20:21,645 Ago And let us put you in a halfway house, you know, 2047 01:20:21,985 --> 01:20:23,205 dad, why don't you get a job? 2048 01:20:23,615 --> 01:20:26,245 Turns into, why don't you want me to be happy? 2049 01:20:26,315 --> 01:20:28,405 Like, you just want me to rot at a desk all day. 2050 01:20:28,505 --> 01:20:29,645 You must f*****g hate me. 2051 01:20:29,985 --> 01:20:31,565 Do you want me to go sit by the desk somewhere? 2052 01:20:31,565 --> 01:20:33,325 That's not what I'm saying. Waste my f*****g time. 2053 01:20:33,385 --> 01:20:35,525 That's not wasting your time. You do this every time. 2054 01:20:35,795 --> 01:20:37,685 I've partied a lot time I've stopped 2055 01:20:37,685 --> 01:20:38,725 doing that could be a better time. 2056 01:20:38,725 --> 01:20:41,525 It's not just a party. The it's not what you're doing. 2057 01:20:41,835 --> 01:20:43,485 It's how much time you put in that. 2058 01:20:43,505 --> 01:20:46,085 And how much time do you put into this? That's the problem. 2059 01:20:46,235 --> 01:20:48,565 What do wanna say? I'm sorry, I f*****g said it. 2060 01:20:48,905 --> 01:20:50,765 Do you wanna f*****g happy fought a f*****g sword. 2061 01:20:50,905 --> 01:20:53,645 No, I don't fought a f*****g sword. Are you happy? No. 2062 01:20:54,235 --> 01:20:55,285 It's his pride, truly. 2063 01:20:55,835 --> 01:20:58,405 Like he, he's really honest about it. 2064 01:20:58,405 --> 01:21:00,805 He's like, I will never work a dust job. 2065 01:21:00,985 --> 01:21:02,885 And we're not even saying that he should do that. 2066 01:21:03,145 --> 01:21:05,565 We also offered to put him up in a sober living facility 2067 01:21:05,585 --> 01:21:08,365 on the company dying, which he flat out refused still 2068 01:21:08,365 --> 01:21:09,845 employment and housing aside. 2069 01:21:10,105 --> 01:21:11,605 We hope that Kelly would step up 2070 01:21:11,605 --> 01:21:13,645 and become a more active father as he once was, 2071 01:21:13,645 --> 01:21:15,165 which he had a perfect chance to do. 2072 01:21:15,215 --> 01:21:17,765 About four months after he got out, unfortunately, 2073 01:21:17,765 --> 01:21:20,005 another crisis struck the family, Sidney, 2074 01:21:20,185 --> 01:21:22,325 his youngest daughter's eating disorder worsened, 2075 01:21:22,325 --> 01:21:25,085 causing her to be hospitalized in an inpatient facility. 2076 01:21:25,505 --> 01:21:27,805 Um, I spearheaded, I called the treatment places, 2077 01:21:27,945 --> 01:21:29,885 got my sister into treatment, got the insurance going, 2078 01:21:29,945 --> 01:21:31,205 and eventually like my mom 2079 01:21:31,715 --> 01:21:33,085 started doing more things for that. 2080 01:21:33,105 --> 01:21:34,605 But I spearheaded that. Kay, you put 2081 01:21:34,605 --> 01:21:36,245 That s**t on her Back. Yeah, I did. And 2082 01:21:36,245 --> 01:21:37,605 I'm gonna try to be there as much as I can 2083 01:21:37,665 --> 01:21:39,765 for my youngest daughter who's, uh, 2084 01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:41,205 gonna be a senior next year. 2085 01:21:41,505 --> 01:21:44,885 Sydnee had, um, something for treatment 2086 01:21:44,885 --> 01:21:48,885 that parents should go to and my dad said he couldn't go. 2087 01:21:49,025 --> 01:21:52,645 And I was like, why not? Oh, I'm gonna a Charlie Kirk event. 2088 01:21:53,065 --> 01:21:54,125 Ah, who the f**k is that? 2089 01:21:54,505 --> 01:21:57,325 Kamala Harris is a war monger who wants to send hundreds 2090 01:21:57,325 --> 01:21:59,565 of billions of dollars to Ukraine while our own border 2091 01:21:59,565 --> 01:22:03,005 remains wide open and 320,000 kids are missing in sex 2092 01:22:03,165 --> 01:22:04,125 trafficking because of your 2093 01:22:04,125 --> 01:22:05,365 preferred candidate, Kamala Harris. 2094 01:22:06,085 --> 01:22:09,285 I look 'em up. Turning Point America Far right. 2095 01:22:09,655 --> 01:22:12,565 Think tank discussion at UCLA's campus. 2096 01:22:12,825 --> 01:22:16,205 So I invited myself, me, I went to Charlie Kirk 2097 01:22:17,025 --> 01:22:20,525 and I, let's just say I was not the typical 2098 01:22:20,815 --> 01:22:21,815 Crowd member. 2099 01:22:21,835 --> 01:22:23,205 It's good to be having these conversations. 2100 01:22:23,205 --> 01:22:25,525 Okay, no good then. Like my dad is a far right Q Anon 2101 01:22:25,525 --> 01:22:27,685 conspiracy theorist, but here I f*****g am. 2102 01:22:27,785 --> 01:22:28,925 So yeah, 2103 01:22:29,165 --> 01:22:31,285 I I maybe you can learn something from him. So 2104 01:22:32,115 --> 01:22:34,525 Yeah, And then I just started, 2105 01:22:35,605 --> 01:22:37,085 I don't know, I just started getting real. 2106 01:22:37,165 --> 01:22:38,645 I was like, you know what? Like 2107 01:22:38,665 --> 01:22:41,245 My dad doesn't, he to spends all of his time on Q anon 2108 01:22:41,245 --> 01:22:42,725 and everything doesn't support his family. 2109 01:22:42,835 --> 01:22:45,045 Like, hasn't had a job since he was just fared as a lawyer. 2110 01:22:45,145 --> 01:22:47,005 So it's pretty ironic being with him 2111 01:22:47,025 --> 01:22:48,565 and listening to you to be honest. 2112 01:22:48,905 --> 01:22:51,125 Um, but yeah, I mean, I love you dad. 2113 01:22:51,125 --> 01:22:52,605 That's why we had an intervention, 2114 01:22:53,185 --> 01:22:56,205 but it's, it's really tough. 2115 01:22:56,265 --> 01:22:57,405 And I know these are like some 2116 01:22:57,405 --> 01:22:59,605 of the biggest things in my life, but I appreciate it. 2117 01:22:59,605 --> 01:23:00,605 Thank you very much. 2118 01:23:03,345 --> 01:23:05,125 And that was that I went back to my seat. 2119 01:23:06,785 --> 01:23:08,445 My dad completely ignored me. 2120 01:23:09,045 --> 01:23:12,325 I mean, I was just speaking about my true lived experience 2121 01:23:12,385 --> 01:23:14,645 and how it has been. Yeah. 2122 01:23:14,795 --> 01:23:17,325 Shortly after this confrontation, I wanted to meet 2123 01:23:17,325 --> 01:23:18,645 with Kelly one last time 2124 01:23:18,665 --> 01:23:20,445 to give him a final word in this documentary. 2125 01:23:20,665 --> 01:23:22,685 And predictably, he was in the one place 2126 01:23:22,685 --> 01:23:24,445 that his family was begging him not 2127 01:23:24,445 --> 01:23:27,365 to go Arizona at a different Charlie Kirk event. 2128 01:23:27,805 --> 01:23:30,125 Apparently working for a patriot news company called Liberty 2129 01:23:30,145 --> 01:23:31,565 Report as the star of a show, 2130 01:23:31,565 --> 01:23:32,885 Turning Point USA, 2131 01:23:33,305 --> 01:23:35,285 the last time we saw them was out at 2132 01:23:35,405 --> 01:23:36,765 UCLA with my daughter Kaylee. 2133 01:23:36,945 --> 01:23:40,565 Her whole Rainbow Coalition of beliefs is really contrary 2134 01:23:40,905 --> 01:23:41,965 to where I'm at. 2135 01:23:42,185 --> 01:23:44,525 And I expressly told her, if you get married sometime 2136 01:23:44,745 --> 01:23:47,285 and it's to a girl, I'm not gonna be there for the wedding. 2137 01:23:47,645 --> 01:23:50,325 'cause uh, as a Christian, I can't support that. 2138 01:23:50,385 --> 01:23:51,725 I'm not gonna support that. And 2139 01:23:51,725 --> 01:23:53,165 It's because we all wanna save America. 2140 01:23:53,305 --> 01:23:54,845 That's right. You all love this country 2141 01:23:55,265 --> 01:23:57,045 and we are going to save it. Hey, 2142 01:23:57,425 --> 01:23:58,565 How you doing man? 2143 01:23:59,205 --> 01:24:00,525 I didn't know you were here. How you doing? 2144 01:24:02,115 --> 01:24:03,765 Kelly's a man. He does great work. 2145 01:24:04,315 --> 01:24:06,845 He's a patriot and we, he loves America. 2146 01:24:06,995 --> 01:24:10,045 Charlie, gimme one second. No problem. No problem. 2147 01:24:10,825 --> 01:24:13,365 Do it, do it. Go ahead. Sorry about that. Sorry. 2148 01:24:13,745 --> 01:24:16,125 So UCLA recently my daughter was one said I'm a 2149 01:24:16,125 --> 01:24:17,445 liberal, my dad's Q anon. Yeah. 2150 01:24:17,725 --> 01:24:19,725 I thought I I I handled that gently. 2151 01:24:19,745 --> 01:24:21,045 You did, you did well, you did well. 2152 01:24:21,045 --> 01:24:21,925 I said maybe you could learn from you 2153 01:24:21,925 --> 01:24:22,725 learned something you did. 2154 01:24:22,785 --> 01:24:23,885 And then you said about family 2155 01:24:23,985 --> 01:24:26,045 and you know, listen to your parents and God bless you. 2156 01:24:26,045 --> 01:24:27,805 Appreciate it. Thanks Charlie. Keep 2157 01:24:27,805 --> 01:24:28,685 Praying for Her. Oh, 2158 01:24:28,685 --> 01:24:29,685 I know. And when she comes back, 2159 01:24:29,685 --> 01:24:30,725 prodigal 2160 01:24:30,725 --> 01:24:32,325 son. Absolutely none of it happened before. 2161 01:24:32,605 --> 01:24:33,565 Remember. Absolutely. Thank you Charlie. 2162 01:24:33,565 --> 01:24:34,165 Good seeing you again. 2163 01:24:34,165 --> 01:24:38,365 Thank you. He's a good man. 2164 01:24:38,385 --> 01:24:40,165 So he remembered, he remembered specifically 2165 01:24:40,785 --> 01:24:42,085 my daughter saying she's liberal 2166 01:24:42,465 --> 01:24:44,485 and what he said to her in terms 2167 01:24:44,485 --> 01:24:45,565 of maybe you'll learn something. 2168 01:24:45,665 --> 01:24:48,125 So he's a good man and he's tall. He's tall, 2169 01:24:50,915 --> 01:24:51,915 All said and done. Kelly 2170 01:24:51,915 --> 01:24:54,855 really didn't change that much, at least in the way 2171 01:24:54,855 --> 01:24:56,015 that his family wanted him to. 2172 01:24:56,275 --> 01:24:58,335 But it wasn't all for nothing on the bright side. 2173 01:24:58,515 --> 01:25:00,695 Do you still care about Bill Joyner? 2174 01:25:01,315 --> 01:25:04,575 Um, No. Which is good for Bill, I guess. 2175 01:25:04,755 --> 01:25:07,135 But going back to my original thesis about the collapse 2176 01:25:07,135 --> 01:25:08,095 of core needs causing 2177 01:25:08,095 --> 01:25:10,055 radicalization, I do still believe that. 2178 01:25:10,115 --> 01:25:12,015 And I do still believe that it was that collapse 2179 01:25:12,015 --> 01:25:14,055 that were the primary drivers in Kelly's downfall. 2180 01:25:14,115 --> 01:25:15,175 But after an intervention 2181 01:25:15,275 --> 01:25:17,175 and a free 30 day treatment, 2182 01:25:17,175 --> 01:25:18,735 he had every chance in the world 2183 01:25:18,735 --> 01:25:20,215 to turn the page and become a new person, 2184 01:25:20,405 --> 01:25:22,375 Look for the truth and keep the faith, bro. 2185 01:25:22,595 --> 01:25:24,255 And he actively made the choice not to. 2186 01:25:24,755 --> 01:25:25,815 But I'd be remiss 2187 01:25:25,815 --> 01:25:29,095 to say at this particular semi conclusive juncture 2188 01:25:29,095 --> 01:25:31,015 that I'm a bit disappointed in 2189 01:25:31,015 --> 01:25:32,815 how things panned out after the intervention. 2190 01:25:33,175 --> 01:25:35,255 I wish that Kelly knew how much we cared about him 2191 01:25:35,355 --> 01:25:36,575 and took things more seriously. 2192 01:25:36,975 --> 01:25:38,575 I wish the recovery center that he went 2193 01:25:38,575 --> 01:25:40,975 to didn't emphasize cannabis addiction so heavily. 2194 01:25:41,415 --> 01:25:43,095 I wish that, uh, bill Joyner 2195 01:25:43,095 --> 01:25:44,295 would've responded to my emails. 2196 01:25:44,655 --> 01:25:47,575 I wish I was filming Uncle Pill on a wide screen instead 2197 01:25:47,575 --> 01:25:49,095 of vertical when I met him at the skate park. 2198 01:25:49,315 --> 01:25:50,535 But that's the nature of life. 2199 01:25:50,795 --> 01:25:52,775 But I guess, you know, on the bright side, 2200 01:25:52,905 --> 01:25:54,935 Kelly is only 62 years old 2201 01:25:54,935 --> 01:25:57,295 and will probably live for decades longer. 2202 01:25:57,775 --> 01:26:00,015 I hope a lot can change between now and then. 2203 01:26:00,135 --> 01:26:02,895 I mean, a lot's changed in the past four years, so I'd like 2204 01:26:02,895 --> 01:26:04,765 to think that maybe we planted the seeds 2205 01:26:04,765 --> 01:26:06,605 for a future psychic shift in Kelly. 2206 01:26:07,105 --> 01:26:09,365 But I'm not sure I'll wrap this documentary up 2207 01:26:09,395 --> 01:26:11,405 with the same thoughts and uncertainty that I had 2208 01:26:11,415 --> 01:26:13,045 after I left the tunnels in Las Vegas 2209 01:26:13,745 --> 01:26:15,845 or the streets of SF where I attempted, 2210 01:26:16,075 --> 01:26:17,205 despite my best efforts 2211 01:26:17,345 --> 01:26:18,925 to help people suffering from addiction 2212 01:26:18,925 --> 01:26:22,085 and homelessness, only to be met with disappointing results, 2213 01:26:22,295 --> 01:26:24,365 which is that people can change if they want to, 2214 01:26:24,705 --> 01:26:27,285 and no amount of external pressure can actually make 2215 01:26:27,565 --> 01:26:28,565 somebody turn the page until 2216 01:26:28,565 --> 01:26:29,845 they're ready and want to do it. 2217 01:26:31,625 --> 01:26:34,085 Hey, look, let me give y'all some real m***********g game. 2218 01:26:34,395 --> 01:26:35,725 Rome wasn't built in a day. 2219 01:26:36,145 --> 01:26:40,165 Change is hard and change hurts for real, for real. 2220 01:26:40,425 --> 01:26:42,805 If Kelly wanted to change, he would change. 2221 01:26:43,305 --> 01:26:44,605 It just is what it is. 2222 01:26:44,755 --> 01:26:47,525 Like it's gotta be in them, not on them. 2223 01:26:47,985 --> 01:26:51,605 And Kaylee, like Kyle and Kaylee, he f***s with y'all. 2224 01:26:51,605 --> 01:26:55,405 Like, I don't even know where my dad is, to be honest. 2225 01:26:55,545 --> 01:26:58,005 You feel me? So like, you gotta, you know, 2226 01:26:58,005 --> 01:27:01,405 you just gotta let m***********s be m***********s. 2227 01:27:01,545 --> 01:27:05,005 And Kelly, Jay Patriot, he's gonna mail it out soon. 2228 01:27:05,355 --> 01:27:08,525 Trump's in office now, bud. We're gonna see where this goes. 2229 01:27:09,145 --> 01:27:11,245 And then, you know, we got four years of this. 2230 01:27:11,265 --> 01:27:13,925 And if nothing changes in four years, man, Kelly, 2231 01:27:14,145 --> 01:27:15,805 you did it all for nothing, bud. 2232 01:27:16,425 --> 01:27:19,725 You think what I'm saying? Like that kind of sucks, man. 2233 01:27:19,745 --> 01:27:22,005 Hey, nobody knows about the real Chico, bro. 2234 01:27:22,105 --> 01:27:25,045 You had to been there, you had to gone through it. 2235 01:27:25,185 --> 01:27:26,645 You know what I mean? Like you could read a book 2236 01:27:26,645 --> 01:27:28,565 and s**t, like you could read a book about Vietnam, 2237 01:27:28,665 --> 01:27:29,805 but you don't know about Vietnam 2238 01:27:29,805 --> 01:27:31,605 until you're on the m***********g shores. 2239 01:27:31,655 --> 01:27:33,245 Until you can see Vietnam, 2240 01:27:33,865 --> 01:27:36,845 you don't know about the real f*****g Chico man, 2241 01:27:37,545 --> 01:27:39,045 and it ain't coming back ever again. 2242 01:27:39,705 --> 01:27:41,525 But hey, f**k Bill Joiner.