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- I'm gonna ask you a bunch of questions.
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And there's no wrong answer.
- 'Kay.
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Tell me, if you could do
anything when you're older,
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- what do you wanna do? What's your thing?
- I wanna be a famous singer.
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Well, it's kind of complicated.
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A famous soccer player.
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I wanna be an actor.
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I really love to act,
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but I also really would love
to teach little kids.
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When I grow up,
I would like to be a gamer.
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Uh...
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a model.
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Do you know what being famous is?
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Kinda like being, like, popular at school,
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but, like, times 1,000.
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I think it's, yeah, fun
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and sort of in the middle of good and bad.
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You get a lot of money.
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Yeah, everyone knows you.
Everyone likes you.
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Everyone wants to be your friend.
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You get a bunch of attention.
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And you get to travel the world
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and do stuff in other places.
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Everybody would know you
because you don't wanna be a lone wolf!
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What's bad about it is that
you can get very egotistica--
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egotistical, I think?
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People would try to take photos of you
and post them on Internet.
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Lots of people crowd around you,
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and sometimes it makes you nervous.
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It's, it's kinda hard, if you're famous,
having your own life.
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Do you like it when people film you?
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How does it feel now?
You're doing it right now.
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I'm a little bit nervous
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and a little bit happy.
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On a scale of one to 10,
how much are you hating me filming you?
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Um... I don't mind.
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Be honest.
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I think on a scale of one to 10,
it's like an eight.
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Feels like a nine.
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I think I just
don't like being on camera.
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Why?
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I think that...
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like, being on camera
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makes a lot of
my body image issues come up
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and...
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I'm constantly like, when I'm--
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when I'm on camera,
I'm just hyper-aware of that.
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yeah, it just makes me
a little uncomfortable.
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When I was a kid,
I was so close with my great-grandparents.
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They were my world.
I just loved them so much.
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They had these two recliner chairs
that they would sit in
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and we would watch TV together.
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I just have this memory of
Shirley Temple appearing on their TV.
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And I thought,
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"I'm going to be the next Shirley Temple.
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"I'm gonna be the next child star.
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If she can do it, I can do it."
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♪ ...of the sea,
we'll join in the jamboree ♪
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♪ At the Codfish Ball ♪
And I did.
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Barney!
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♪ Mirror, mirror, mirror ♪
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I've dreamed about this for so long!
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- Thank you!
- Demi Lovato.
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Some girl screamed and said my name,
and I was like...
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News about Demi Lovato.
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How could you?
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Sorry. We're gonna need a lot more work.
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We're not giving up.
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I'm serious.
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I didn't realize that it would
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have such a negative impact
on my mental health.
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And, unfortunately,
sometimes that looks explosive,
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like an incident where you punch
your backup dancer on an airplane
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or you overdose from heroin.
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I really thought I had all the answers
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and I thought I had gone through so much
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that I knew everything.
And now, I look at other people,
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and I'm like, "I know nothing,
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and the only way I'm gonna
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When I'm performing in a show,
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and I see an empty seat, like,
it really fucks with me.
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Even on stage.
Like, I'll see an empty seat,
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and I'm like, "Ugh, I'm not good enough."
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Really?
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it's this belief that was instilled in me
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as a, as a young performer...
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that... I, I...
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looked at my success as my self-worth.
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Mm-hmm.
- You know?
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I had a really hard time
differentiating the two.
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Mm-hmm.
- And I dealt with...
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a lot of need for external validation,
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um, because I was equating
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my success to my self-worth.
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Um, I was just wondering if you
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and what that would've been
like for you if you did.
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Yeah, I mean, that's wild to hear,
you know what I mean?
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Because you are so, like, beloved.
You know what I mean? Like, you have
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fanatics, you know what I mean?
And, like, those people have those things
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because it's earned, you know what I mean?
You're a giant ball of talent,
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but, like, to see that one
inkling of a thing like that
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can irk a person like that is--
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yeah, I mean, I've had those
same kind of experiences where
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there's a chip in the armor,
you know what I mean?
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And it's like,
"Shit, everything's not perfect,"
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or "I'm not perfect enough."
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So, you, you migrate towards those
that are going to give you
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that, you know, validation,
whether that, you know,
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it's good for you or not,
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you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
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So, it's not a normal existence to have
somebody in your family be famous,
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you know what I mean? And, like,
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that's just a, a weird thing that,
like, you have to know--
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You don't have to, but it's good to know
what you're signing up for.
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When I was 11 months old,
I wanted be an actress.
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Can I get you a glass of milk, honey?
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Milk? I'm a Barrymore!
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Get me a drink, and make it a double!
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Hi!
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- Hi.
- Hi.
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- Thank you so much for doing this.
- We finally get to do this.
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- Yes! We finally get to.
- I think we've been talking about it for,
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- what, a year almost?
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I feel lucky that I'm a part of it.
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Oh, my God, of course!
How could we not have you a part of this?
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You were sort of almost born into it,
given that you started at 11 months old.
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Totally.
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It was a Gaines-Burgers
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And I've never stopped working since then
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except for when I was
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institutionalized by my mother.
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My mom was a waitress at the Troubadour
and The Comedy Store,
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which were coolest of the cool.
Wow.
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And then she met my dad
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who was so cool,
he was lethally, deadly cool.
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Toxically cool.
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And I think she knew
she needed to get away from him.
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Mm-hmm.
- Um, he was dangerous.
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He was on a lot of drugs.
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And then, she's just this single mom,
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raising a baby in 1975 with no money.
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There was a, a quietness in our apartment.
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A, a loneliness.
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And then when I got to ET,
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it was like a big bustling
environment full of people
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and life and creativity
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What kid doesn't wanna play?
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Look what I made for you, Elliott!
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I wonder why did my mom
think it was a good idea
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for me to go into this?
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Was it 'cause she wanted
to be an actress herself?
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Was it the fact that
my dad and his family,
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the Barrymores, were actors?
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I've suddenly become quite important.
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I was always studying my family
and the old black-and-white movies.
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Mm-hmm.
So Shirley Temple was
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the child star of that era.
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Yeah, I also looked up to Shirley Temple
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as a young child performer
and was just like,
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"I wanna be that someday. I wanna be
the youngest and the best at what I do."
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♪ Hey, what did the blue jay say? ♪
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Children have been part of the workforce
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for an incredibly long time.
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Half a million children
are working as young as 5,
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work 14 hours a day for
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But in 1938,
the Federal Fair Labor Standards Act
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was the first set of comprehensive
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that had wage, hour,
and workplace condition laws
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for the whole country.
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Child labor is appalling.
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And children received special protections,
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except for child actors.
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The Shirley Temple Act
carved out child entertainers
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from the protections that children got
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Congress didn't really seem to think
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that child entertainers
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of the nation's workforce
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Look at these.
Oh, my God!
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This is me in the pageants.
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- Did you sing?
- Yeah, singing was my, my talent.
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- Aw!
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I love that picture.
You were so cute.
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I remember one time, you made a whole CD
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of, like, eight songs you sang to tracks.
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Yeah.
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And you sold the CDs for $10 each.
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I went around in the neighborhood
and sold my CD so that I could raise money
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- to be in the pageants.
- Pushing mix tapes.
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Yeah, mix tapes.
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Hottest Mix Tape of the Year.
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But, we did things,
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uh, we bought dresses at Goodwill.
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I wanted to give them
every opportunity I could
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to let them do what I didn't
get to do when I was a kid.
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And some things we couldn't
afford to do at that time,
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but if we could, we did it.
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Do you remember when
we would drive to auditions to Austin,
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- and we would hold up signs in the back?
- And we'd say, "Honk if--"
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"Honk if you're beautiful."
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And it's on the back of a script!
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That script is the one where
Dallas threw the milkshake out the window.
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I know!
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She didn't realize the window
in the back seat was open.
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So when she threw the milkshake out,
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- it just went right back in all over us.
- Came right back in, yeah.
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The wind threw it right back--
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We were on our way to an audition.
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And we had to wash our hair
at a gas station,
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- like in the sink at a gas station.
- Did you show up with wet hair?
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I don't remember. I may have dried--
No!
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I stuck both of them
underneath the hand dryer.
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And I went like this.
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Here's the thing, it's the ultimate sin
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to show up at an audition late.
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Or with milkshake in your hair.
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Let me tell you, I was panicking.
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It's really hard to be an actor's parent.
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You have to give up your career.
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You have to take them to
auditions all of the time.
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You have to be on set.
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How are you gonna work?
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A lot of times,
we think that it's the parents
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dragging the kids to Hollywood,
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and they have ideas about how this child
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can support the family, and everyone can
go live on a yacht or something.
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In many cases, it's the kid who sees this
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as a way out.
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They are born artists,
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this sense of seeing the world
in a different way.
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The characteristics that
some of the kid actors share
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is that they're quirky.
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I'm not perky.
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That's for damn sure.
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But I wanna be.
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So, how do you find your lanes in life
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to work with your quirkiness?
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I wanna smile. And sing and dance.
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Oh, darling, do you really mean it?
248
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If acting is your thing,
249
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be the best entertainment
professional you can be.
250
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Some see this as a way
of catapulting the family
251
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to stability and becoming happy.
252
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I was really unhappy
in my home life and at school,
253
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and I was really bored, and I was getting
into, like, really crazy trouble at 7.
254
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Wow, okay.
Mm-hmm.
255
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And so, as soon as
I started going on auditions
256
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every day after school with
my mother, all of it stopped.
257
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- All the trouble, everything.
- Mm-hmm.
258
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But what I really loved
259
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was getting to go with my mom
on the bus to New York
260
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to the Port Authority.
261
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And my mother was kept
in a place in my home
262
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where she was not present.
Mm-hmm.
263
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And as soon as she and I
got out of the house,
264
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she had a personality.
265
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We became very close,
266
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and she would teach me about street smarts
267
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and getting around Manhattan
268
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and all the stuff to avoid getting killed
at the Port Authority.
269
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And, um-- 'Cause it was 1987,
270
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so it was a really unsafe time to be...
271
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Yeah.
- Thank you.
272
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...at the Port Authority.
273
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So, having that one-on-one
attention from my mother
274
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was something that was really incredible.
275
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I think I also really loved
having something finally
276
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that I knew I was good at.
Mm-hmm.
277
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And getting all that positive
reinforcement all the time
278
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for being good at something.
Yeah.
279
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Bravo!
280
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Bravo!
281
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What a wonderful job
282
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- you did in this movie!
- Thank you.
283
00:15:54,955 --> 00:15:57,040
I had a very chaotic home.
284
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My father was a failed cult leader.
285
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And so, he had all that
same sort of, like,
286
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really crazy narcissism,
287
00:16:05,924 --> 00:16:09,344
uh, that goes along with someone
wanting to run a cult.
288
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Mm-hmm.
- Um,
289
00:16:10,721 --> 00:16:13,849
and he was very physically violent.
290
00:16:13,849 --> 00:16:16,768
There was never any peace in my house.
Right.
291
00:16:16,768 --> 00:16:18,979
And you found peace on set.
Yeah!
292
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I knew nothing totally insane
was about to happen.
293
00:16:23,275 --> 00:16:24,651
Right.
You know?
294
00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:27,279
Nobody was gonna, like,
get really mad and pretend
295
00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:29,072
they were gonna drive the car into a wall.
296
00:16:29,615 --> 00:16:32,826
For me, there was this
refuge of emotional safety.
297
00:16:33,327 --> 00:16:37,289
He's a nice director, that's for sure.
And, um...
298
00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:41,877
...he, he needs a lot of sleep. That's--
299
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Because he has to work late at night.
300
00:16:45,756 --> 00:16:48,842
That film changed my life.
301
00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:51,887
There was something
very different about E.T.
302
00:16:51,887 --> 00:16:55,057
because of the way
Steven Spielberg treated me.
303
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I did not have a father,
304
00:16:57,726 --> 00:17:02,564
and he was the person
who made me feel like,
305
00:17:02,564 --> 00:17:05,484
all of a sudden
I wanted to be my best for.
306
00:17:06,401 --> 00:17:08,153
Gimme your other hand. There we go!
307
00:17:08,153 --> 00:17:10,989
Ah! That's great for
the small of your back.
308
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As I was saying.
309
00:17:13,492 --> 00:17:16,745
What I loved was that
Steven went out of his way
310
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to make E.T. real for me.
311
00:17:18,747 --> 00:17:21,083
He's really real.
312
00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:23,418
Then why are all those wires?
313
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Those aren't wires. Those are his feet.
Didn't you know that?
314
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He was also the first person
I felt embarrassed in front of
315
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if I behaved badly or was caught drinking.
316
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There was no authority in my life,
317
00:17:38,684 --> 00:17:42,479
so I loved any boundary he set to me.
318
00:17:42,479 --> 00:17:44,398
It didn't hit me until I was an adult,
319
00:17:44,398 --> 00:17:46,817
"Oh, that's how parents are
supposed to make you feel."
320
00:17:48,402 --> 00:17:49,486
What is this?
321
00:17:50,237 --> 00:17:52,781
Cheese ball pick-me-ups,
accompanied by miniature franks,
322
00:17:52,781 --> 00:17:56,243
and, for dessert, marshmallow kebobs.
323
00:17:56,243 --> 00:17:59,329
My mother at the time did not know
anything about making movies.
324
00:17:59,329 --> 00:18:02,249
She just really didn't know.
And Cher took me under her wing,
325
00:18:02,249 --> 00:18:04,710
and she recognized that
sometimes you could be on a set,
326
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:07,880
and you don't know exactly
what is going on behind the scenes,
327
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,549
power struggles or different issues,
328
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:12,551
and if you don't know any better
and have no experience,
329
00:18:12,551 --> 00:18:14,052
you could think it was your fault.
330
00:18:14,052 --> 00:18:16,597
Right.
- And she never wanted me to feel insecure.
331
00:18:16,597 --> 00:18:18,473
She was great.
I spent all my time with her.
332
00:18:18,473 --> 00:18:21,852
I used to hide from tutor school
in her trailer
333
00:18:21,852 --> 00:18:24,354
and eating See's.
334
00:18:24,354 --> 00:18:27,024
She was obsessed with
the chocolate See's lollipops.
335
00:18:27,024 --> 00:18:28,442
Yeah, yeah.
- Yeah, yeah.
336
00:18:28,442 --> 00:18:31,778
It was the first time I had
ever seen, um, sparkling water also.
337
00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:33,030
I was like,
338
00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:36,074
"These rich people with
their bubbly water."
339
00:18:36,074 --> 00:18:38,535
She kind of was like--
Was she a mentor to you?
340
00:18:38,535 --> 00:18:41,997
Yeah, I was really lucky
in that when I first started,
341
00:18:41,997 --> 00:18:44,666
I had a lot-- I worked with a lot of women
342
00:18:44,666 --> 00:18:46,877
that were very strong.
343
00:18:46,877 --> 00:18:50,297
They weren't-- They were,
they were great talents,
344
00:18:50,297 --> 00:18:53,342
but they were also very strong
and had boundaries
345
00:18:53,342 --> 00:18:56,094
and had rules about how they were treated,
346
00:18:56,094 --> 00:18:58,722
and that's one thing
I definitely got from her.
347
00:18:58,722 --> 00:19:01,058
That's so nice that you had someone,
348
00:19:01,058 --> 00:19:04,269
a strong woman to look up to on set.
Yeah.
349
00:19:04,269 --> 00:19:05,729
And that, that looked after you.
350
00:19:05,729 --> 00:19:07,064
Um, I think it's--
351
00:19:07,064 --> 00:19:09,942
And it was my first experience,
and she was really in charge.
352
00:19:09,942 --> 00:19:12,319
Yeah. Um, I didn't have that experience.
353
00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,863
- I'm sorry.
- It was a man's world for me.
354
00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:18,242
Nobody around me really knew
355
00:19:18,242 --> 00:19:20,661
this is what can happen to your kid.
356
00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:23,580
I think anybody lucky enough,
357
00:19:24,498 --> 00:19:26,959
or is a lucky person
to get a mentor, for sure.
358
00:19:26,959 --> 00:19:28,418
Yeah.
- 'Cause it's like,
359
00:19:28,418 --> 00:19:30,128
you know, it starts
with your parents, yes,
360
00:19:30,128 --> 00:19:33,382
but kids don't listen to their parents,
you know what I mean?
361
00:19:33,382 --> 00:19:35,509
Like, kids will listen
to their parents' friend
362
00:19:35,509 --> 00:19:38,053
saying the exact same thing
that their parents said
363
00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:40,097
and actually listen to that person.
364
00:19:40,097 --> 00:19:42,641
Right.
- It's just one of those dynamics in life.
365
00:19:42,641 --> 00:19:45,477
I had, you know, my theater mentor,
366
00:19:45,477 --> 00:19:48,730
you know, our drama teacher,
Freddie Hendricks, was a big one.
367
00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:50,315
You know, a lot of people in the church,
368
00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:52,776
I would say, like, the church
as a whole growing up.
369
00:19:54,111 --> 00:19:57,573
And then, you know, as I got older
or, you know, further into the business,
370
00:19:57,573 --> 00:19:58,991
like, you know,
371
00:19:58,991 --> 00:20:00,993
Brian Robbins is a big mentor of mine,
372
00:20:00,993 --> 00:20:03,579
the producer on the show All That.
373
00:20:03,579 --> 00:20:06,123
Woo! What's happening, y'all?
374
00:20:06,123 --> 00:20:07,207
Hi, Kenan!
375
00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:08,709
I secretly was bummed
376
00:20:08,709 --> 00:20:11,044
that I was a Disney kid
because I was like I never got to, like--
377
00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:13,463
- Yeah, I knew it!
- I never got to get slimed!
378
00:20:13,463 --> 00:20:16,466
Yeah, no, I was a huge fan of Nickelodeon,
like, for that reason.
379
00:20:16,466 --> 00:20:18,844
Double Dare was the craziest thing
I'd ever seen,
380
00:20:18,844 --> 00:20:20,929
- and I just, I wanted that.
- Yes!
381
00:20:20,929 --> 00:20:24,558
Disney was like the most wholesome reality
there could ever be created.
382
00:20:24,558 --> 00:20:26,310
- Right.
- So, Nickelodeon was just like,
383
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:27,603
"Yeah, we're punks or whatever.
384
00:20:27,603 --> 00:20:29,813
We listen to hip-hop, we listen to R&B."
You know what I mean?
385
00:20:31,607 --> 00:20:33,525
Ha! Hello there.
386
00:20:34,526 --> 00:20:36,695
Welcome to Good Burger,
home of the Good Burger.
387
00:20:36,695 --> 00:20:39,489
- Can I take your order?
- Oh, no, no. No food for me now.
388
00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:44,453
Before Nickelodeon,
before the 1980s really,
389
00:20:44,453 --> 00:20:49,082
children's entertainment was
definitely geared toward children,
390
00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:51,043
but there was only the three channels,
391
00:20:51,043 --> 00:20:53,420
and there's not really
a lot of children per se.
392
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,217
Even the cartoons were ostensibly adults.
393
00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:00,677
Look at me. I'm calm.
394
00:21:00,677 --> 00:21:03,263
Why shouldn't you be?
Your wife isn't having a baby.
395
00:21:03,263 --> 00:21:05,349
The broadcast television model
396
00:21:05,349 --> 00:21:07,518
was as broad as possible,
397
00:21:07,518 --> 00:21:10,062
and then, all of a sudden,
there was this new way
398
00:21:10,062 --> 00:21:12,105
of piping television into homes: cable.
399
00:21:17,903 --> 00:21:20,113
We've got that splintering
of the audience.
400
00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:25,661
It starts to become compartmentalized
to very specific demographics.
401
00:21:25,661 --> 00:21:28,288
Well, why not start
a channel aimed at kids?
402
00:21:29,081 --> 00:21:32,042
Nickelodeon is narrowly cast at children.
403
00:21:32,042 --> 00:21:33,544
Alright!
By the early '80s,
404
00:21:33,544 --> 00:21:36,296
everybody's got a TV.
Some people have three TVs, four TVs.
405
00:21:36,296 --> 00:21:38,340
There's a TV in the kids' room.
406
00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,133
It's not just downstairs anymore.
407
00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:43,345
So Nickelodeon does some of the first-ever
408
00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:45,013
focus groups for children.
409
00:21:45,013 --> 00:21:47,015
It's really the first time
where they're sitting down
410
00:21:47,015 --> 00:21:50,185
with the kids and saying,
"What do you want us to show?"
411
00:21:50,185 --> 00:21:53,313
The biggest thing that they realize
is that kids wanna see themselves.
412
00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:55,524
Me?
- Great idea, Spongie.
413
00:21:56,233 --> 00:21:58,026
I'm really gettin' sick of this.
414
00:21:58,026 --> 00:22:01,864
From the '80s onward,
there was a big ideological shift,
415
00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:04,074
and there were more
and more kids on television.
416
00:22:04,074 --> 00:22:06,451
Three, two, one!
417
00:22:10,414 --> 00:22:13,625
The Disney Channel is on the air!
418
00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:16,461
Disney kicks off its own channel.
419
00:22:16,461 --> 00:22:18,046
Now, there's competition.
420
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:23,260
Nickelodeon, they actually were trying
to be very anti-Disney,
421
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:25,679
kind of "Damn the Man," irreverent,
422
00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:27,181
dirty, and disgusting, and slime,
423
00:22:27,181 --> 00:22:30,434
and, as they would tout,
"What children want."
424
00:22:30,434 --> 00:22:31,977
Nickelodeon gives you what you want!
425
00:22:33,896 --> 00:22:36,356
Yo, what's up, everybody?
Kenan Thompson here
426
00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:38,442
on the set of Good Burger, the movie.
427
00:22:38,442 --> 00:22:42,654
I had the Good Burger orange VHS.
The orange tape.
428
00:22:42,654 --> 00:22:44,489
And I probably still do in storage.
429
00:22:44,489 --> 00:22:47,159
Yeah, that orange tape is synonymous,
430
00:22:47,159 --> 00:22:49,203
I think, with that era.
Like, everybody says it.
431
00:22:49,203 --> 00:22:51,914
Like, "Yo, when I was growing up..."
Yes. The orange tape.
432
00:22:51,914 --> 00:22:54,374
That was the-- Some people are like,
"That's the only movie we had."
433
00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:55,709
Aw.
It was the orange tape.
434
00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:58,420
I'm like, "That's--
I'm-I'm glad to bring you joy."
435
00:23:00,214 --> 00:23:02,174
You do remember that it was my idea
436
00:23:02,174 --> 00:23:04,551
to put the salsa on Good Burgers
in the first place.
437
00:23:04,551 --> 00:23:07,054
That first commercial, when they paid me,
it was, like, $800.
438
00:23:07,054 --> 00:23:09,640
Yeah.
- And I was, you know, 12,
439
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,683
something like that. 11.
Yeah.
440
00:23:11,683 --> 00:23:13,519
So, that might as well have been
a million dollars,
441
00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:14,895
you know what I'm saying? Like,
442
00:23:14,895 --> 00:23:17,940
you know how much candy I was thinking...
Yeah! Of course!
443
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:20,108
...like, $800 is gonna buy me?
Of course.
444
00:23:20,108 --> 00:23:23,111
Yeah, I remember booking Barney,
445
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,822
and seeing the episodic checks
that would come in,
446
00:23:25,822 --> 00:23:27,366
and you're-- Yeah.
Crazy.
447
00:23:27,366 --> 00:23:30,410
And it was just like,
I don't even know-- I-- There's not a--
448
00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:32,788
I, I can't even spend this
in one day on toys.
449
00:23:32,788 --> 00:23:36,875
♪ This one is a triangle
that has three sides ♪
450
00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:38,293
♪ We draw... ♪
451
00:23:38,293 --> 00:23:41,046
Tell us a little bit about
some of your acting that you've done.
452
00:23:41,046 --> 00:23:44,216
My acting that I've done, um,
has probably been Barney.
453
00:23:44,216 --> 00:23:46,802
That really got me started
and, like, with singing, too,
454
00:23:46,802 --> 00:23:48,929
'cause after that,
I found a voice teacher.
455
00:23:48,929 --> 00:23:52,224
My paychecks would
go back into voice lessons
456
00:23:52,224 --> 00:23:54,685
and acting lessons and guitar lessons,
457
00:23:54,685 --> 00:23:57,646
and I was kind of like an investment.
458
00:23:58,814 --> 00:24:02,317
There was a fire in her
459
00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:05,237
that she wanted to get to the next level.
460
00:24:09,449 --> 00:24:12,077
Barney was my first audition,
and I booked it, and that was great.
461
00:24:12,077 --> 00:24:15,372
But then, like, I found it
really hard to book other jobs,
462
00:24:15,372 --> 00:24:17,457
and I was so frustrated.
463
00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:19,918
There were a lot of "nos."
464
00:24:21,461 --> 00:24:24,882
And it's also like,
I feel like when you are young
465
00:24:24,882 --> 00:24:26,175
and you start out in the industry
466
00:24:26,175 --> 00:24:28,093
and you start making
a bunch of money right away,
467
00:24:28,093 --> 00:24:30,053
no one ever tells you that it runs out.
468
00:24:30,053 --> 00:24:32,598
And all of a sudden, you wake up one day,
and you're like,
469
00:24:32,598 --> 00:24:36,351
"Oh, shit. This is like...
I have to keep working,
470
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:37,853
if I'm lucky enough to keep working."
471
00:24:37,853 --> 00:24:39,188
- You know?
- Yeah, man.
472
00:24:39,188 --> 00:24:41,815
For a long time, it was,
you know, a lot of auditioning,
473
00:24:41,815 --> 00:24:44,818
- like, a lot of struggle, whatever.
- Mm-hmm. A lot of rejection.
474
00:24:44,818 --> 00:24:46,570
- Ton of rejection. Like--
- Yeah.
475
00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:49,156
And I really considered
not wanting to act anymore,
476
00:24:49,156 --> 00:24:51,241
like, if these are the kinds
of things I had to go through.
477
00:24:51,241 --> 00:24:54,703
It was almost like
I was forced to stay humble,
478
00:24:54,703 --> 00:24:56,330
if you will, you know what I'm saying?
479
00:24:56,330 --> 00:25:00,042
'Cause, like, when I could've
been in my most boisterous,
480
00:25:00,042 --> 00:25:03,754
everybody-knows-my-name
kinda years, I didn't want that
481
00:25:03,754 --> 00:25:07,299
because I didn't want people
to know I was struggling.
482
00:25:07,299 --> 00:25:08,467
You know what I mean?
483
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:12,054
So, it's kind of the beautiful
kind of conundrum of, you know,
484
00:25:12,054 --> 00:25:15,224
the irony of life, if you will. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
485
00:25:15,224 --> 00:25:17,392
I took it personal every time I got a no.
Yeah.
486
00:25:17,392 --> 00:25:19,478
'Cause I was like,
"There's something wrong with me."
487
00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:24,900
I knew that that was what I wanted to do
488
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:28,529
instead of going to public school
with other kids.
489
00:25:28,529 --> 00:25:31,365
Like, I never felt normal, so doing--
490
00:25:31,365 --> 00:25:33,033
performing in arts made me feel
491
00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:35,244
more comfortable being myself.
492
00:25:35,244 --> 00:25:38,747
Oh, my God!
493
00:25:38,747 --> 00:25:42,376
Yeah, I learned really
early on that I could never talk about
494
00:25:42,376 --> 00:25:45,671
what ha-- what I did when I was away
when I was back at school.
495
00:25:45,671 --> 00:25:48,340
I think the first day I came
back from shooting Mermaids,
496
00:25:48,340 --> 00:25:50,300
there were two little girls
that I'd been friends with,
497
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:53,762
and I went to talk to them
and tell them about what I had done.
498
00:25:53,762 --> 00:25:56,223
And they very quickly turned on me
499
00:25:56,223 --> 00:25:58,267
and thought I was bragging.
Yeah. Right.
500
00:25:58,267 --> 00:26:00,185
And I was like...
501
00:26:00,185 --> 00:26:03,939
And I just realized that it
was not going to go over well.
502
00:26:03,939 --> 00:26:05,274
Mm-hmm.
- And so after that,
503
00:26:05,274 --> 00:26:06,984
I never spoke about it ever.
504
00:26:06,984 --> 00:26:09,152
Oh, that must've been so isolating.
505
00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:11,947
I guess so. At the time, I didn't, um--
506
00:26:12,698 --> 00:26:16,660
It didn't-- At the time, you know,
I wasn't doing a lot of, uh...
507
00:26:18,287 --> 00:26:21,206
self-analysis at that age, obviously.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
508
00:26:21,206 --> 00:26:25,419
But I do think that I felt--
I was not a child that felt, um,
509
00:26:26,003 --> 00:26:28,297
like I had a group where
I belonged, you know?
510
00:26:28,297 --> 00:26:29,590
Mm-hmm.
- And I guess that--
511
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:31,550
I guess maybe, yeah,
that would've started then.
512
00:26:39,266 --> 00:26:41,435
As soon as I started
auditioning for roles,
513
00:26:41,435 --> 00:26:43,729
the bullying started happening.
514
00:26:44,688 --> 00:26:48,275
The popular girls started
writing in the bathroom stalls,
515
00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:52,321
"Demi's a whore," all these nasty things.
516
00:26:52,321 --> 00:26:56,325
And then it got to the point where,
like, by the end of the day on a Friday,
517
00:26:56,325 --> 00:27:00,120
I remember going to lunch and feeling like
everyone was staring at me.
518
00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:03,999
They had signed a suicide petition
519
00:27:03,999 --> 00:27:06,877
saying that I should kill myself,
520
00:27:06,877 --> 00:27:09,963
and it was passed around
and people signed it.
521
00:27:13,509 --> 00:27:16,011
It was so extremely hurtful.
522
00:27:18,138 --> 00:27:20,974
And that was a part of
my motivation to follow my dreams
523
00:27:20,974 --> 00:27:23,310
because I knew it would
get me out of Texas.
524
00:27:25,479 --> 00:27:28,732
I imagined what it would be like
being on Disney Channel.
525
00:27:29,525 --> 00:27:34,821
I was like, "I'm gonna become so famous,
they can't escape my name."
526
00:27:37,282 --> 00:27:39,952
The turning point for our family
527
00:27:39,952 --> 00:27:41,578
was when...
528
00:27:42,579 --> 00:27:46,542
Demi went to the Disney Channel
to audition for...
529
00:27:48,043 --> 00:27:50,587
the Jonas Brothers show.
530
00:27:50,587 --> 00:27:52,548
And she wanted it so bad.
531
00:27:53,257 --> 00:27:55,634
You know, we had heard
so many "nos" on things.
532
00:27:55,634 --> 00:27:59,388
At this point, we had been auditioning
for several years,
533
00:27:59,388 --> 00:28:01,974
and they flew us out.
534
00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:06,728
Hi!
535
00:28:06,728 --> 00:28:09,273
I screen tested for it and everything.
536
00:28:09,273 --> 00:28:12,401
Wow!
You were here five minutes ago.
537
00:28:12,401 --> 00:28:14,611
I know, but I've dreamed
about this for so long,
538
00:28:14,611 --> 00:28:16,989
and I still can't believe
that I-- we're here.
539
00:28:16,989 --> 00:28:19,199
I was so excited. I couldn't believe
540
00:28:19,199 --> 00:28:21,285
that they were considering me
for the role.
541
00:28:22,661 --> 00:28:24,955
The agent called us and said,
542
00:28:24,955 --> 00:28:28,166
"I'm sorry, Demi didn't get it."
543
00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:31,503
I was so close.
544
00:28:31,503 --> 00:28:35,549
I had gotten my hopes up so high.
545
00:28:35,549 --> 00:28:37,843
Disney said,
"Even though you didn't get this one,
546
00:28:37,843 --> 00:28:39,595
we still wanna see you
for two other roles."
547
00:28:40,679 --> 00:28:43,724
And we got a phone call.
Her agent put it on speaker,
548
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,728
and they said, "Congratulations, Demi.
549
00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:51,732
You are Camp Rock's Mitchie."
550
00:28:51,732 --> 00:28:53,317
That was the name of the character.
551
00:28:53,317 --> 00:28:56,320
♪ Off to the races, I'm going places ♪
552
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,989
♪ Might be a long shot,
not gonna waste it ♪
553
00:28:58,989 --> 00:29:01,617
♪ This is the big break ♪
554
00:29:01,617 --> 00:29:05,495
♪ And it's calling my name, yeah ♪
555
00:29:06,371 --> 00:29:08,040
♪ So far, so great ♪
556
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,085
I also booked
Sonny with a Chance, so I got both.
557
00:29:12,711 --> 00:29:13,712
♪ Yow! ♪
558
00:29:13,712 --> 00:29:17,382
When you get a "yes"
that's really that big,
559
00:29:18,509 --> 00:29:21,762
that was like, "This is gonna change
my family's whole life."
560
00:29:21,762 --> 00:29:22,888
Mom!
561
00:29:22,888 --> 00:29:25,432
Ah! This is so exciting!
562
00:29:25,432 --> 00:29:26,767
You know it's not every day
563
00:29:26,767 --> 00:29:29,603
that I hand my beautiful daughter
over to show business.
564
00:29:29,603 --> 00:29:31,897
Bye!
565
00:29:31,897 --> 00:29:34,691
The attorney that was on the phone said,
566
00:29:34,691 --> 00:29:36,818
"When are you gonna be moving out here?"
567
00:29:36,818 --> 00:29:39,238
And I said,
"Oh, we're not gonna be moving out."
568
00:29:39,238 --> 00:29:42,866
And they-- [chuckles] they laughed at me.
They were like,
569
00:29:42,866 --> 00:29:45,452
"No, that's not how this works."
570
00:29:46,537 --> 00:29:51,542
We were so green in this industry.
571
00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:54,086
I just had no idea how any of this worked.
572
00:29:54,086 --> 00:29:58,340
And you know what?
That was the easy part of our lives.
573
00:29:58,340 --> 00:30:02,000
I'm not kidding. It got harder from there.
Trust me.
574
00:30:17,192 --> 00:30:18,777
Whoa.
575
00:30:18,777 --> 00:30:21,029
Disney comes along and realizes
576
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:25,701
the idea of being famous is a real hook
577
00:30:25,701 --> 00:30:28,704
to teenage girls in particular.
578
00:30:28,704 --> 00:30:30,747
The Cheetah Girls In Concert Collection.
579
00:30:30,747 --> 00:30:32,165
You can make them sing!
580
00:30:32,165 --> 00:30:35,961
The first is Cheetah Girls, 2003,
581
00:30:35,961 --> 00:30:38,839
about a formation of a girl group.
582
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:41,633
And then you have High School Musical
583
00:30:41,633 --> 00:30:43,135
and Hannah Montana.
584
00:30:43,135 --> 00:30:46,138
I wrote this song
about an 11-year-old girl
585
00:30:46,138 --> 00:30:47,681
who wanted to be a rock star.
586
00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:50,017
These shows about performing
587
00:30:50,017 --> 00:30:52,436
and what it might be like to be famous.
588
00:30:52,436 --> 00:30:54,229
This could lead to something bigger,
589
00:30:54,229 --> 00:30:57,024
like T-shirts, backpacks, lunchboxes.
590
00:30:57,024 --> 00:30:59,818
It's always been a dream of mine
to be on a lunchbox!
591
00:30:59,818 --> 00:31:02,279
The big thing that the networks realize
592
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:04,406
is that these shows in particular
593
00:31:04,406 --> 00:31:07,451
are very merchandise-friendly.
594
00:31:10,245 --> 00:31:12,331
JoJo Siwa!
595
00:31:12,331 --> 00:31:14,750
Entertainer-performer
JoJo Siwa can do it all.
596
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:17,044
She's fun, she's positive,
and she's so sparkly!
597
00:31:17,044 --> 00:31:18,712
We're in JoJo heaven,
598
00:31:18,712 --> 00:31:20,547
and now, your little one can be, too,
599
00:31:20,547 --> 00:31:22,883
with the JoJo range at Walmart.
Available now!
600
00:31:22,883 --> 00:31:25,844
You have so much merchandise!
601
00:31:25,844 --> 00:31:26,929
It's crazy!
602
00:31:26,929 --> 00:31:28,680
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
603
00:31:30,807 --> 00:31:33,435
- You need a bath bomb?
- Oh, scented bath bombs?
604
00:31:33,435 --> 00:31:35,729
[laughs] Fully.
- What else do we have? We have--
605
00:31:35,729 --> 00:31:36,980
I mean, art kits.
606
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,399
- We got toys, electronics...
- Art kits.
607
00:31:39,399 --> 00:31:41,568
- ...merchandise, bows.
- Cups.
608
00:31:41,568 --> 00:31:44,321
"Design your own glitter tumblers."
Yep.
609
00:31:44,321 --> 00:31:45,781
You have everything!
610
00:31:45,781 --> 00:31:47,824
I have everything you could ever need
611
00:31:47,824 --> 00:31:50,327
for a 7-year-old girl's birthday party.
612
00:31:51,411 --> 00:31:53,288
♪ I'ma come back like a boomerang ♪
613
00:31:53,288 --> 00:31:55,791
Just updated the JoJo Siwa merch room!
614
00:31:55,791 --> 00:31:58,752
It was always really cool to me.
It was weird
615
00:31:58,752 --> 00:32:01,421
being produced as an animation almost,
616
00:32:01,421 --> 00:32:03,215
you know what I mean? But it was real,
617
00:32:03,215 --> 00:32:06,009
- it was me, like the-- not a character.
- Right.
618
00:32:06,009 --> 00:32:09,221
- But at the same time, same as SpongeBob.
- Right.
619
00:32:09,221 --> 00:32:10,764
You know what I mean?
Same as Mickey Mouse.
620
00:32:10,764 --> 00:32:12,808
- 'Cause your name is on this, so it's you.
- Mm-hmm.
621
00:32:12,808 --> 00:32:15,269
- It's me. Yeah.
- It's your likeness. It's not a character
622
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:17,020
that you're playing,
which is totally different
623
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,857
- than what Hannah Montana and other--
- Exactly. You.
624
00:32:19,857 --> 00:32:21,441
- And, and me, yeah.
- You, yeah!
625
00:32:26,196 --> 00:32:28,949
Growing up, seeing
Hannah Montana on stage with the fans,
626
00:32:28,949 --> 00:32:30,617
and she was singing Nobody's Perfect,
627
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:32,661
that was like, I wanted to be it.
628
00:32:35,831 --> 00:32:39,251
If you get a Disney show
or a Nickelodeon show,
629
00:32:39,251 --> 00:32:41,712
suddenly, your life changes overnight.
630
00:32:41,712 --> 00:32:45,257
You not only become famous,
631
00:32:45,257 --> 00:32:47,384
your image becomes merchandised.
632
00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:49,845
You're in Target aisle.
633
00:32:49,845 --> 00:32:51,847
They send you to the theme parks
634
00:32:51,847 --> 00:32:54,850
to stand on the top of a parade.
635
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:58,312
If you can sing from Disney's, uh,
music label,
636
00:32:58,312 --> 00:33:00,564
as that triple-threat benefit can be,
637
00:33:00,564 --> 00:33:03,150
"Oh, wait, you can act and dance.
638
00:33:03,150 --> 00:33:04,985
Uh, let's put you in front of cameras."
639
00:33:04,985 --> 00:33:06,904
You're such the triple-threat.
You dance, you act.
640
00:33:06,904 --> 00:33:08,197
Is singing your number one?
641
00:33:08,197 --> 00:33:10,157
Triple-threat star Ariana Grande
642
00:33:10,157 --> 00:33:12,242
is following the super
successful footsteps...
643
00:33:12,242 --> 00:33:13,368
Kinda wanna be a triple threat.
644
00:33:14,578 --> 00:33:17,873
Everyone at that time
wanted to be on Disney Channel.
645
00:33:17,873 --> 00:33:22,377
It was the coolest thing to do
is to be a Disney channel star.
646
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:26,798
- Justin.
- Keri.
647
00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:28,217
- JC.
- Britney.
648
00:33:28,217 --> 00:33:29,593
Ryan.
649
00:33:29,593 --> 00:33:32,721
It was the only way
that teens were able
650
00:33:32,721 --> 00:33:36,767
to make it in the industry at a young age
651
00:33:36,767 --> 00:33:38,936
because getting a movie role
652
00:33:38,936 --> 00:33:41,647
that would break
a child actor was so rare,
653
00:33:41,647 --> 00:33:44,358
and here came along this...
654
00:33:44,358 --> 00:33:46,777
...massive platform
655
00:33:46,777 --> 00:33:49,863
that could easily transform your life.
656
00:33:54,701 --> 00:33:58,080
I had so much fun filming Camp Rock.
657
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,540
The whole thing was so exciting.
658
00:33:59,540 --> 00:34:02,459
We were all kind of just thrown
into this Disney machine.
659
00:34:02,793 --> 00:34:05,587
What up?
This is our school room!
660
00:34:06,672 --> 00:34:08,173
This is where we hang out.
661
00:34:08,173 --> 00:34:10,259
We called it Disney High.
662
00:34:15,722 --> 00:34:17,683
You know, we were dating each other,
663
00:34:17,683 --> 00:34:19,685
and there was people
that didn't like each other,
664
00:34:19,685 --> 00:34:21,979
and we were all the same age.
665
00:34:21,979 --> 00:34:25,274
And none of us were in high school,
so that was our experience of it.
666
00:34:26,108 --> 00:34:28,610
Oh, my God!
667
00:34:30,696 --> 00:34:33,740
I don't think there's been
one night where we're not hanging out.
668
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:36,368
It shows how close
we've really gotten with each other.
669
00:34:36,368 --> 00:34:39,746
Everyone in this movie is friends
with each other, and that's hard to find.
670
00:34:39,746 --> 00:34:40,831
Ha-ha!
671
00:34:40,831 --> 00:34:41,915
Oh, my gosh!
672
00:34:42,583 --> 00:34:45,377
- [Alyson] Do you remember this?
- Oh, yeah!
673
00:34:45,377 --> 00:34:47,880
♪ Hand it up,
let's start, start, start ♪
674
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,882
- Oh, it was this.
- Why do I know this dance still?
675
00:34:49,882 --> 00:34:51,675
This is embarrassing.
676
00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:54,386
It lives forever in my cellular memory.
677
00:34:56,305 --> 00:34:59,016
Oh, my God!
Stop!
678
00:34:59,016 --> 00:35:00,601
Well, Anne Marie.
679
00:35:00,601 --> 00:35:02,144
- Yeah!
- Yeah.
680
00:35:02,144 --> 00:35:04,271
- Do you ever talk to her?
- No!
681
00:35:04,271 --> 00:35:06,481
- Yeah, I stalked her.
- Also-- Okay.
682
00:35:06,481 --> 00:35:08,775
I think she has a baby
and, like, is married.
683
00:35:08,775 --> 00:35:10,152
What?
- Yeah.
684
00:35:10,152 --> 00:35:11,486
♪ I know you're never gonna wanna ♪
685
00:35:11,486 --> 00:35:14,323
Who out of us have babies?
686
00:35:14,323 --> 00:35:16,366
Giovanni!
687
00:35:16,366 --> 00:35:18,368
I feel like dancing
to the beat of a different drum.
688
00:35:18,368 --> 00:35:19,828
Oh, wow.
689
00:35:19,828 --> 00:35:22,122
Hi, I'm Caitlyn, camper today,
690
00:35:22,122 --> 00:35:24,750
top-selling music producer tomorrow.
Check me out.
691
00:35:26,877 --> 00:35:28,253
Cool!
692
00:35:28,253 --> 00:35:29,838
Do you the keyboard scene?
693
00:35:29,838 --> 00:35:33,008
- I don't know what you're talking about.
- You--
694
00:35:35,177 --> 00:35:39,014
It's like... like this. It's so good!
695
00:35:41,767 --> 00:35:45,354
I play a piano
that wasn't plugged in on the day
696
00:35:45,354 --> 00:35:47,439
and didn't know what song
they were gonna add.
697
00:35:47,439 --> 00:35:49,983
Oh, no... Yes.
- Do you-- And then when I heard it
698
00:35:49,983 --> 00:35:52,569
when the movie came out,
I was like, "That's what you chose?"
699
00:35:53,987 --> 00:35:56,114
"I'm supposed to be a talented producer!
700
00:35:56,114 --> 00:35:58,075
That's what you're playing?"
701
00:36:01,078 --> 00:36:03,038
And I'm like, "Wow, she's really good!"
702
00:36:03,038 --> 00:36:05,082
That's the moment.
703
00:36:06,834 --> 00:36:10,546
I remember one time,
you followed me into the bathroom.
704
00:36:10,546 --> 00:36:12,589
- In Camp Rock one.
- Yeah. Yeah.
705
00:36:12,589 --> 00:36:14,758
And I had been purging,
706
00:36:14,758 --> 00:36:17,886
and you picked up on it
because your Spidey senses
707
00:36:17,886 --> 00:36:21,014
were already in tune with those behaviors.
708
00:36:21,014 --> 00:36:22,558
Mm-hmm.
- And you followed me in,
709
00:36:22,558 --> 00:36:23,767
and you talked to me.
710
00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,854
And I was really grateful that someone...
711
00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:31,149
didn't just, like, shun me in that moment,
712
00:36:31,149 --> 00:36:33,235
um, or shame me at all.
713
00:36:33,235 --> 00:36:36,029
I felt like you were
very understanding and--
714
00:36:36,029 --> 00:36:40,075
But, that was definitely
a moment that I remember being, like--
715
00:36:41,201 --> 00:36:43,662
One, I was like, "Oh, my God,
somebody knows."
716
00:36:43,662 --> 00:36:45,289
Mm-hmm.
Like, "Fuck."
717
00:36:45,289 --> 00:36:48,333
But two, I was, like, really grateful
that you were there for me.
718
00:36:48,333 --> 00:36:51,086
Yeah, and I felt that support mutually
719
00:36:51,086 --> 00:36:53,380
and feeling like we ha-- we know--
Yeah.
720
00:36:54,131 --> 00:36:57,050
We know that what we're dealing with
at the surface level
721
00:36:57,050 --> 00:37:00,387
is just one part of the story
of what we're going through each day.
722
00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:03,640
Do you remember doing, like,
the photo shoots that we did
723
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,728
for the teen magazines?
Yes, like, like Popstar!
724
00:37:07,728 --> 00:37:10,189
and Tiger Beat.
Yeah. I remember they removed
725
00:37:10,189 --> 00:37:13,984
every line and airbrushed under my eyes,
726
00:37:13,984 --> 00:37:16,945
almost not recognizing myself,
and then immediately going,
727
00:37:16,945 --> 00:37:20,949
"I didn't know that those things
were wrong with me before."
728
00:37:20,949 --> 00:37:24,161
And that, like, stuck with me, you know,
729
00:37:24,161 --> 00:37:26,663
for all the subsequent
photo shoots of, like,
730
00:37:26,663 --> 00:37:31,460
"Oh, I know that in post,
they're gonna fix these five things."
731
00:37:32,628 --> 00:37:34,046
You see yourself, and you're like,
732
00:37:34,046 --> 00:37:36,215
"Oh, my gosh, this is amazing."
Yeah.
733
00:37:36,215 --> 00:37:39,676
"I look perfect," you know?
And then I look in the mirror,
734
00:37:39,676 --> 00:37:41,929
and I'm like, "Wait, what?" Like--
Yeah.
735
00:37:41,929 --> 00:37:44,973
It's definitely caused
a lot of self-esteem
736
00:37:44,973 --> 00:37:46,892
and self-confidence issues.
737
00:37:47,434 --> 00:37:49,811
- Hey, guys! It's me, Demi.
- Hello. And Alyson.
738
00:37:49,811 --> 00:37:51,688
Yes, and guess where we are?
739
00:37:51,688 --> 00:37:53,565
London!
Yeah, you see the flag?
740
00:37:53,565 --> 00:37:57,236
The Camp Rock press junket in Europe
741
00:37:57,236 --> 00:38:02,658
- was a really, really dark time for me...
- Yeah.
742
00:38:02,658 --> 00:38:05,202
- ...with my eating disorder.
- Mm-hmm.
743
00:38:05,202 --> 00:38:07,538
And I remember specifically
744
00:38:07,538 --> 00:38:10,290
feeling terrified of my appearance
745
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:12,918
and being in very, very,
very obsessive behaviors
746
00:38:12,918 --> 00:38:15,254
before the press started
747
00:38:15,254 --> 00:38:17,297
and knowing we, we were both
748
00:38:17,297 --> 00:38:19,132
going through a lot.
Mm-hmm.
749
00:38:19,132 --> 00:38:21,885
And you know, on the outside,
then people were like, "That was amazing!
750
00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:25,264
Look how great you look!"
And we're like, "You have no idea
751
00:38:25,264 --> 00:38:26,932
what's going on right now."
752
00:38:26,932 --> 00:38:29,935
Yeah. It was a way to take
control of the situation.
753
00:38:29,935 --> 00:38:32,646
Yes, and sometimes also understanding
754
00:38:32,646 --> 00:38:35,482
that is the only sense of safety
and control that you have.
755
00:38:35,482 --> 00:38:39,194
Mm-hmm.
- It was just like, "I was trained to be
756
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,490
"at your beck and call,
and whatever you want from me,
757
00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:44,950
I will provide."
758
00:38:46,368 --> 00:38:49,913
Definitely being easy
to work with was the ultimate.
759
00:38:49,913 --> 00:38:51,540
You knew you were gonna get the next job
760
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:54,334
based on how easy you
and your mother were to work with.
761
00:38:54,334 --> 00:38:55,711
Yeah.
762
00:38:55,711 --> 00:38:57,754
And then I was pretty easy, too,
763
00:38:57,754 --> 00:38:59,840
because I just so desperately
wanted to be there.
764
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,842
The idea of agency was not something
765
00:39:01,842 --> 00:39:04,595
- that was even... You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
766
00:39:04,595 --> 00:39:06,805
Like, it didn't even occur to me,
you know?
767
00:39:06,805 --> 00:39:08,015
The right to--
Yeah.
768
00:39:08,015 --> 00:39:10,851
The right to argue or say
or disagree and all that stuff
769
00:39:10,851 --> 00:39:13,937
was something that was almost--
Yeah, it was earned.
770
00:39:21,278 --> 00:39:25,949
I was pretty convinced that
the more open and available I was,
771
00:39:25,949 --> 00:39:28,243
that makes you better at your job.
772
00:39:28,243 --> 00:39:30,579
Yeah.
So the memo I got was
773
00:39:30,579 --> 00:39:33,790
your job requirement is to unzip,
774
00:39:33,790 --> 00:39:37,252
metaphorically speaking,
and open yourself up to everything.
775
00:39:37,252 --> 00:39:39,296
- Right.
- I, I didn't know boundaries.
776
00:39:39,296 --> 00:39:41,423
Could you step back
and let us see the dress?
777
00:39:41,423 --> 00:39:43,425
We're doing a story on fashion.
778
00:39:45,219 --> 00:39:48,639
When you turn yourself into a commodity,
779
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:50,474
you're talking about validation.
780
00:39:50,474 --> 00:39:52,976
You're talking about feeling less than.
781
00:39:52,976 --> 00:39:56,355
You're talking about losing people,
gaining people.
782
00:39:56,355 --> 00:39:59,983
That's a serious mental game...
Right.
783
00:39:59,983 --> 00:40:03,070
...that you need to have intact
in order to handle it all.
784
00:40:04,404 --> 00:40:07,282
I think I became aware of it,
785
00:40:07,282 --> 00:40:11,578
like, it-- I started noticing the word
"brand" in conversations,
786
00:40:11,578 --> 00:40:15,290
and it just came into my consciousness
when I was about 15,
787
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:17,835
whenever I started
working on Disney Channel.
788
00:40:17,835 --> 00:40:21,296
You know, like, "What image am I going
to put out there of myself?"
789
00:40:22,089 --> 00:40:25,592
It's confusing when you start
profiting off of...
790
00:40:26,134 --> 00:40:29,763
your brand,
which you confuse with yourself.
791
00:40:29,763 --> 00:40:31,682
And the m-- Like you said,
792
00:40:31,682 --> 00:40:34,059
that's an exhausting part of the industry.
793
00:40:43,151 --> 00:40:45,237
Hey, hey!
Hello. How's it going?
794
00:40:45,237 --> 00:40:46,822
I'm chillin'. How are you?
795
00:40:46,822 --> 00:40:50,534
I'm good. Good to see you.
It's good to see you, too.
796
00:40:52,327 --> 00:40:54,454
There's all this pressure
to create a hit song,
797
00:40:54,454 --> 00:40:57,666
and that takes away from the joy of it,
798
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,503
'cause I'm in the studio second-guessing
everything I do and write.
799
00:41:04,006 --> 00:41:05,090
♪ We had it all ♪
800
00:41:05,090 --> 00:41:06,550
Dammit, that wasn't good enough.
801
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:07,634
Let me give you another.
802
00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:11,763
♪ We had it all ♪
803
00:41:11,763 --> 00:41:12,848
Fuck.
804
00:41:12,848 --> 00:41:14,266
Dammit, why are you beating yourself up?
805
00:41:14,266 --> 00:41:15,767
I didn't like that. Let me take a sip.
806
00:41:15,767 --> 00:41:16,852
♪ Ever hold ♪
807
00:41:16,852 --> 00:41:18,395
♪ Ever holding ♪
808
00:41:18,395 --> 00:41:21,398
- ♪ Ever holding my hand ♪
- Is that it?
809
00:41:21,398 --> 00:41:23,567
Nope, that wasn't it.
Eh, yeah, could've been it, but...
810
00:41:23,567 --> 00:41:26,987
Just this cycle that feels
like it's never-ending.
811
00:41:26,987 --> 00:41:31,033
♪ Than we were before, I won't forget ♪
812
00:41:31,992 --> 00:41:33,994
♪ I won't forget ♪
813
00:41:34,745 --> 00:41:36,997
♪ About us ♪
814
00:41:37,581 --> 00:41:39,291
Nice. I think we got it.
815
00:41:39,291 --> 00:41:40,918
One more just for shits.
816
00:41:40,918 --> 00:41:42,920
♪ Did you regret ♪
817
00:41:43,754 --> 00:41:46,465
♪ Ever holding my hand ♪
818
00:41:46,465 --> 00:41:48,509
♪ Never forget ♪
819
00:41:48,509 --> 00:41:50,010
♪ Please, don't forget ♪
820
00:41:51,011 --> 00:41:52,888
What was that?!
- That's pain.
821
00:41:52,888 --> 00:41:56,683
♪ Ever holding my hand, never again ♪
822
00:41:57,726 --> 00:41:58,727
Yeah.
823
00:41:58,727 --> 00:42:01,188
Where it changed for me was I sat down
824
00:42:01,188 --> 00:42:03,774
with my former management when I was 15,
825
00:42:04,733 --> 00:42:08,195
and they said, "Do you have any songs?"
And I played them
826
00:42:08,195 --> 00:42:10,197
five of the songs I'm most proud of,
827
00:42:11,114 --> 00:42:15,118
and they didn't react to them
the way that I was hoping.
828
00:42:15,118 --> 00:42:18,288
They were like, "Those are okay.
829
00:42:18,288 --> 00:42:21,250
"Um, let's get you in the studio with
830
00:42:21,250 --> 00:42:24,837
such-and-such artists and writers."
831
00:42:25,838 --> 00:42:29,341
And that, to me, chipped away
832
00:42:30,342 --> 00:42:34,388
at that raw connection to music.
833
00:42:36,974 --> 00:42:38,976
Obviously, my ego was hurt.
834
00:42:41,436 --> 00:42:43,313
It chipped away at my confidence,
835
00:42:43,313 --> 00:42:47,317
and I never turned to music
the same way again.
836
00:42:49,403 --> 00:42:50,904
They've got the looks,
837
00:42:50,904 --> 00:42:52,781
personality, and talent
to land feature roles
838
00:42:52,781 --> 00:42:55,033
on some of TV's hottest shows.
839
00:42:55,033 --> 00:42:59,663
In the '80s, all of sudden you start
having more and more of these child actors
840
00:42:59,663 --> 00:43:00,998
who are becoming stars.
841
00:43:00,998 --> 00:43:05,544
Their formative years are completely
and totally impacted
842
00:43:05,544 --> 00:43:07,838
by their being in show business.
843
00:43:07,838 --> 00:43:09,756
It's fun, and it's big bucks.
844
00:43:09,756 --> 00:43:10,966
Yes, big bucks.
845
00:43:10,966 --> 00:43:13,927
4-year-old Cosby Show cutie
Raven-Symoné and her father
846
00:43:13,927 --> 00:43:16,305
say that's exactly why
she's in this business.
847
00:43:16,305 --> 00:43:19,016
This is fun, but it's also a job,
848
00:43:19,016 --> 00:43:21,685
and she does this to get what?
849
00:43:21,685 --> 00:43:25,272
Mm, paid.
- Exactly. Um, there's...
850
00:43:25,272 --> 00:43:27,941
there's, uh, um, college
851
00:43:27,941 --> 00:43:30,235
and things that she wants,
so forth like that.
852
00:43:30,235 --> 00:43:32,321
When did you realize it was work?
853
00:43:32,321 --> 00:43:33,780
I knew it was work immediately.
854
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:35,949
My parents made sure
that I understood that this was a job.
855
00:43:35,949 --> 00:43:37,784
I get paid for it, and you do--
856
00:43:37,784 --> 00:43:39,077
You show up professionally.
857
00:43:39,077 --> 00:43:42,372
At what age do you start
to fathom what money is?
858
00:43:42,372 --> 00:43:45,042
When you're told how much you're getting
paid for the job that you do.
859
00:43:45,042 --> 00:43:48,170
So, I knew at 3 how much I was making,
and I understood that this was a job.
860
00:43:48,170 --> 00:43:50,506
If you lose it, you don't make--
you don't make the money.
861
00:43:50,506 --> 00:43:54,551
Right. When did you realize
you were the breadwinner for your family?
862
00:43:54,551 --> 00:43:56,428
We call it a family business.
863
00:43:56,428 --> 00:43:58,472
Right.
Everybody has a job
864
00:43:58,472 --> 00:44:00,807
within the family business.
Okay.
865
00:44:00,807 --> 00:44:04,144
So, nobody likes to say one person
is the breadwinner or not.
866
00:44:05,229 --> 00:44:07,439
Right.
- Read through those lines.
867
00:44:07,439 --> 00:44:09,858
Oh, Raven!
868
00:44:09,858 --> 00:44:12,319
Hi! How are you?
869
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:14,655
Good.
870
00:44:15,614 --> 00:44:17,908
Hi!
871
00:44:17,908 --> 00:44:20,702
Booking The Cosby Show,
I mean, I can only imagine
872
00:44:20,702 --> 00:44:24,206
the excitement within the family dynamic.
873
00:44:24,498 --> 00:44:26,458
Cousins, grandmas, and aunties.
874
00:44:26,458 --> 00:44:28,043
Tell me how you got this job.
875
00:44:28,043 --> 00:44:31,713
Cosby Show was the number-one
television show in America
876
00:44:31,713 --> 00:44:35,300
especially with an African-American cast
and so influential
877
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:38,136
within the fabric of society.
Um, you know,
878
00:44:38,136 --> 00:44:41,014
a young girl from Atlanta, Georgia.
879
00:44:41,014 --> 00:44:42,891
Good luck to you, Raven.
It's so nice to have you.
880
00:44:42,891 --> 00:44:44,893
So nice to have you, too.
Thank you.
881
00:44:44,893 --> 00:44:48,605
I mean, that's the dream
of so many Black people at that time.
882
00:44:50,023 --> 00:44:53,068
From the age of 16 months,
I knew that my job
883
00:44:53,068 --> 00:44:54,695
was to entertain other people.
884
00:44:54,695 --> 00:44:57,322
I mean, that's a mind thing in itself.
Mm-hmm.
885
00:44:57,322 --> 00:44:58,574
You know?
Mm-hmm.
886
00:44:58,574 --> 00:45:00,284
One of the youngest Black females
887
00:45:00,284 --> 00:45:03,495
to have a show named after them
is a lot of pressure.
888
00:45:03,495 --> 00:45:05,038
Yep, that's me!
889
00:45:05,038 --> 00:45:08,584
Sometimes, though, the parents' dreams
890
00:45:08,584 --> 00:45:11,170
might bleed into the child's...
Mm-hmm.
891
00:45:11,170 --> 00:45:13,630
...and you get so enmeshed,
you know?
892
00:45:13,630 --> 00:45:15,007
Mm-hmm.
893
00:45:15,007 --> 00:45:18,177
Parents forget that children,
894
00:45:18,177 --> 00:45:21,346
young kids,
are performing for their parent.
895
00:45:21,346 --> 00:45:22,472
Mm-hmm.
896
00:45:22,472 --> 00:45:25,726
They're performing for their parents'
love and affection...
897
00:45:25,726 --> 00:45:27,686
Mm-hmm.
- ...and their "Good job!"
898
00:45:27,686 --> 00:45:29,271
And yes, it's a lot of money.
899
00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:32,274
It's a lot of money,
and money does crazy shit.
900
00:45:35,694 --> 00:45:38,906
It's 1920,
and Jackie arrives in Los Angeles,
901
00:45:38,906 --> 00:45:41,950
acting very much the role
of popular movie star,
902
00:45:41,950 --> 00:45:44,286
but he's still a little boy to grownups.
903
00:45:45,871 --> 00:45:49,541
Jackie Coogan was one of the most famous
904
00:45:49,541 --> 00:45:51,752
child actors in American history.
905
00:45:51,752 --> 00:45:56,298
He made very good money
performing alongside Charlie Chaplin,
906
00:45:56,298 --> 00:45:58,842
but he actually wasn't able
907
00:45:58,842 --> 00:46:03,138
to access the bulk of his own money
upon becoming an adult.
908
00:46:03,138 --> 00:46:07,726
His parents had frittered away
what should have been millions.
909
00:46:21,156 --> 00:46:24,034
So, California passed the first Coogan Law
910
00:46:24,034 --> 00:46:28,622
that required that there be
some percentage of money
911
00:46:28,622 --> 00:46:31,583
for a child actor set aside in a trust.
912
00:46:31,583 --> 00:46:33,627
So, in those states where they do exist,
913
00:46:33,627 --> 00:46:38,799
Coogan Laws are really important
for child entertainers.
914
00:46:38,799 --> 00:46:41,510
In Florida, they didn't have the same kind
of labor laws or whatever.
915
00:46:42,594 --> 00:46:45,138
My mom met this dude, I think, like,
916
00:46:45,138 --> 00:46:47,057
somewhere through the community,
like, either church
917
00:46:47,057 --> 00:46:50,227
or just neighborhood shit,
like, a book club or something, like,
918
00:46:50,227 --> 00:46:54,231
who claimed to be a good,
you know, kinda tax accountant.
919
00:46:54,231 --> 00:46:56,149
Like, will get you out of, like,
your tax problems
920
00:46:56,149 --> 00:46:57,943
for, like, the cheap or whatever.
921
00:46:58,485 --> 00:47:01,196
Um, but, he was basically a con artist
922
00:47:01,196 --> 00:47:03,657
and, like, ran away with,
like, my entire, like,
923
00:47:04,533 --> 00:47:06,869
biggest earnings up to that point,
you know what I mean?
924
00:47:06,869 --> 00:47:09,788
So, by the time it was discovered,
925
00:47:09,788 --> 00:47:12,666
it was towards the end
of that Nickelodeon tenure
926
00:47:12,666 --> 00:47:17,045
and the end of, you know,
the job-to-job, you know, existence
927
00:47:17,045 --> 00:47:20,966
that I had at that point.
And it was, it was devastating
928
00:47:20,966 --> 00:47:23,051
because I, like, discovered it
929
00:47:23,051 --> 00:47:24,970
in front of others,
you know what I'm saying?
930
00:47:24,970 --> 00:47:28,348
Like, I was going to buy a house
in, you know, Atlanta,
931
00:47:28,348 --> 00:47:29,558
like, my first home kinda shit,
932
00:47:29,558 --> 00:47:32,895
and then he didn't show up with
the fuckin' check, you know what I mean?
933
00:47:32,895 --> 00:47:34,688
I'm in these, like,
real estate people's office,
934
00:47:34,688 --> 00:47:36,273
like, waiting to sign this paperwork,
935
00:47:36,273 --> 00:47:38,317
and he doesn't bring
the check kinda thing.
936
00:47:38,317 --> 00:47:40,694
Uh-huh.
It's crazy, going from
937
00:47:40,694 --> 00:47:43,488
rags to riches and back to rags.
It's a motherfucker.
938
00:47:49,077 --> 00:47:52,289
It wasn't until the early '20s,
I was touring my original music.
939
00:47:53,415 --> 00:47:56,084
One of the dancers I brought with me said
940
00:47:56,084 --> 00:47:57,628
the check bounced,
941
00:47:57,628 --> 00:48:01,423
uh, when I paid them out weekly.
And I was like,
942
00:48:02,508 --> 00:48:06,220
"This is impossible because
I've been working since I was 7,
943
00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:09,431
and I don't spend any money ever."
944
00:48:09,431 --> 00:48:12,267
And I uncovered
945
00:48:12,267 --> 00:48:15,062
that people in my...
946
00:48:17,189 --> 00:48:20,817
surrounding network had been taking money
947
00:48:20,817 --> 00:48:22,486
without me knowing...
Mm.
948
00:48:22,486 --> 00:48:23,904
...for years.
949
00:48:26,532 --> 00:48:28,742
I came from a working-class family,
950
00:48:28,742 --> 00:48:30,744
and I've seen it
a couple of times with kids
951
00:48:30,744 --> 00:48:32,746
when we see someone who comes
from a working-class family,
952
00:48:32,746 --> 00:48:34,164
and suddenly, they're thrown into,
953
00:48:34,164 --> 00:48:36,542
the kid becomes
the breadwinner for the family.
954
00:48:36,542 --> 00:48:38,377
Particularly if you're doing a franchise.
955
00:48:39,211 --> 00:48:41,588
We went from shooting Home Alone one,
956
00:48:41,588 --> 00:48:44,383
nobody cared, but in the course of a year,
957
00:48:44,383 --> 00:48:46,760
Macaulay Culkin became a huge star,
958
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,554
and that was unexpected.
959
00:48:48,554 --> 00:48:50,681
It's not like Harry Potter where you know
960
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,851
that it may be extraordinarily successful.
961
00:48:56,061 --> 00:48:58,438
The new Harry Potter film are looking
962
00:48:58,438 --> 00:49:00,649
for children to play the three main roles.
963
00:49:00,649 --> 00:49:02,818
The first Potter film,
in terms of casting,
964
00:49:02,818 --> 00:49:04,570
it was very intense.
965
00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:08,782
I had to put blinders on because
that's all I was hearing, everywhere.
966
00:49:08,782 --> 00:49:11,368
You know, you go out on the street,
you go into a pub, you go anywhere,
967
00:49:11,368 --> 00:49:13,036
and people are saying,
"Who are you gonna cast?
968
00:49:13,036 --> 00:49:15,080
Who's gonna be Harry Potter?
Who's gonna be Harry Potter?"
969
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,249
And that, you take that information,
970
00:49:17,249 --> 00:49:19,293
and you bring it back to the actor
and the actor's parents.
971
00:49:19,293 --> 00:49:22,379
Gentlemen, this is Rupert.
Hi, Rupert!
972
00:49:22,379 --> 00:49:23,797
This is Daniel.
- Hi, Daniel.
973
00:49:23,797 --> 00:49:24,965
And this is Emma.
974
00:49:24,965 --> 00:49:26,216
This is gonna get pretty intense.
975
00:49:26,216 --> 00:49:28,135
Daniel, are you going to be a, a saver?
976
00:49:30,137 --> 00:49:33,223
Probably. Um...
977
00:49:34,850 --> 00:49:37,436
I-- No, I don't have any idea.
978
00:49:38,937 --> 00:49:40,606
You nervous?
979
00:49:40,606 --> 00:49:42,649
Yeah, very! I'm, like, so totally nervous.
980
00:49:42,649 --> 00:49:44,526
It's your first day. How does it feel?
981
00:49:44,526 --> 00:49:46,195
It feels absolutely fantastic.
982
00:49:46,987 --> 00:49:48,238
Now, see?
983
00:49:48,238 --> 00:49:50,908
I just felt a tremendous
responsibility to the actors,
984
00:49:50,908 --> 00:49:52,784
that they knew what
they were getting into.
985
00:49:52,784 --> 00:49:56,079
Yeah, insanely nervous.
The amount of people here is amazing.
986
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,916
You're really getting the
Hollywood superstar treatment out there.
987
00:49:58,916 --> 00:50:02,002
Yeah, it was, um, weird,
but really, really cool.
988
00:50:02,002 --> 00:50:05,422
Kids signed for--
on for, like, five movies.
989
00:50:05,422 --> 00:50:08,425
That's the rest of your life
as a child star.
990
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,303
Well, chaps, six down, two to go.
991
00:50:12,012 --> 00:50:14,306
That's gonna be your legacy,
992
00:50:14,306 --> 00:50:16,725
and you have to learn
how to live with that.
993
00:50:20,938 --> 00:50:23,732
When I was young, I had some pretty...
994
00:50:23,732 --> 00:50:26,318
rough experiences
with other films that I had done.
995
00:50:26,318 --> 00:50:27,986
We would use a dolly shot.
996
00:50:27,986 --> 00:50:29,821
Yeah, what should I do here?
997
00:50:29,821 --> 00:50:31,949
- Do a dolly shot. Yeah.
- You think so?
998
00:50:31,949 --> 00:50:34,326
- I don't know. Do you-- Really? Okay.
- Yeah. Yeah.
999
00:50:34,326 --> 00:50:36,912
- And what about after this?
- Mm...
1000
00:50:36,912 --> 00:50:40,832
Once we wrapped,
I, I didn't know what was going on.
1001
00:50:46,421 --> 00:50:52,010
Suddenly, I realized that parents
had to be a big part of it.
1002
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:55,514
I can't have him go home
to a really sort of shaky environment
1003
00:50:55,514 --> 00:50:57,766
for the sake of a film. It's not worth it.
1004
00:50:57,766 --> 00:51:01,270
It was as important to cast the parents
as it was to cast the kids.
1005
00:51:01,270 --> 00:51:03,438
You're supposed to be interviewing me,
but I'm just curious. Is it--
1006
00:51:03,438 --> 00:51:05,524
Did you have people supporting you
1007
00:51:05,524 --> 00:51:07,818
who wanted to--
I think my--
1008
00:51:07,818 --> 00:51:09,611
I love my parents to death,
1009
00:51:09,611 --> 00:51:12,197
but they didn't know how
to manage that situation.
1010
00:51:12,197 --> 00:51:14,116
- Right.
- You know, it's a very tricky situation
1011
00:51:14,116 --> 00:51:16,076
when I'm the breadwinner.
1012
00:51:16,076 --> 00:51:18,412
- Yeah.
- And, um, and my parents,
1013
00:51:18,412 --> 00:51:20,455
- there was no manual on what to do.
- Mm-hmm.
1014
00:51:22,374 --> 00:51:24,501
There was one trip that we took,
1015
00:51:24,501 --> 00:51:28,172
she was doing a show
with the Jonas Brothers one night,
1016
00:51:28,172 --> 00:51:31,550
and we'd had interviews
and photo shoots and everything all day.
1017
00:51:31,550 --> 00:51:34,595
And she was about to go out
1018
00:51:34,595 --> 00:51:36,388
on stage, and she said,
1019
00:51:36,388 --> 00:51:39,641
"I just need five minutes, Mama. I need
five minutes. I just need to sleep."
1020
00:51:41,643 --> 00:51:44,605
And I remember trying to wake her up.
1021
00:51:44,605 --> 00:51:47,983
She couldn't open her eyes,
and I started crying,
1022
00:51:47,983 --> 00:51:49,818
and then she started crying.
1023
00:51:49,818 --> 00:51:53,238
And here she's about to have
to go out on stage. But, it was just,
1024
00:51:53,238 --> 00:51:55,282
for me as a mom,
1025
00:51:55,282 --> 00:51:58,493
that's when I vowed to say,
1026
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,663
"Hey, she's proven herself now.
1027
00:52:02,956 --> 00:52:05,709
"Can we pull back a little bit?
1028
00:52:05,709 --> 00:52:08,754
"And that's all I'm asking.
We're not asking not to do our job.
1029
00:52:08,754 --> 00:52:10,881
"We're just saying, you know,
can we get her
1030
00:52:10,881 --> 00:52:13,884
a little more sleep when she gets there?"
That kind of thing.
1031
00:52:14,843 --> 00:52:17,179
I was a teenager,
and I was just exhausted.
1032
00:52:17,179 --> 00:52:19,848
I was being worked into the ground.
Right.
1033
00:52:19,848 --> 00:52:23,310
We were all just kind of flapping around,
1034
00:52:23,310 --> 00:52:25,854
- figuring out how to swim, you know?
- Yeah.
1035
00:52:27,439 --> 00:52:30,734
It started out me booking Camp Rock,
1036
00:52:30,734 --> 00:52:32,528
filming Camp Rock,
1037
00:52:32,528 --> 00:52:34,780
and then going back to LA,
1038
00:52:34,780 --> 00:52:37,199
filming a season of my TV show.
Actually, no.
1039
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,326
I filmed Camp Rock.
1040
00:52:39,326 --> 00:52:41,537
Then, I worked on my album.
1041
00:52:41,537 --> 00:52:44,831
I wrote it, recorded it
within about a month.
1042
00:52:44,831 --> 00:52:47,876
And then, I went on tour. After tour,
1043
00:52:47,876 --> 00:52:50,629
I filmed a season of my TV show
Sonny with a Chance.
1044
00:52:51,713 --> 00:52:56,051
Then, I filmed
Princess Protection Program.
1045
00:52:56,051 --> 00:52:57,469
After Princess Protection Program,
1046
00:52:57,469 --> 00:52:59,888
I started making another album.
1047
00:52:59,888 --> 00:53:02,933
Then, I toured.
Then, I filmed Camp Rock 2.
1048
00:53:02,933 --> 00:53:06,019
I worked on another album,
another season of my TV show.
1049
00:53:06,019 --> 00:53:09,273
It was back to back to back to back.
1050
00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:14,361
Nobody really knew how
to stop the machine.
1051
00:53:14,361 --> 00:53:16,655
The, the train just kept moving.
1052
00:53:16,655 --> 00:53:18,657
Like, it was, there were never any pauses.
1053
00:53:18,657 --> 00:53:22,202
I've been touring almost
every day since June 1st,
1054
00:53:22,202 --> 00:53:24,329
which I don't know the day today.
1055
00:53:24,329 --> 00:53:27,666
But, it is, like, the 5th of September.
1056
00:53:27,666 --> 00:53:30,252
Could be the 5th September today.
I don't know.
1057
00:53:30,252 --> 00:53:34,298
♪ Machine... ♪
1058
00:53:36,967 --> 00:53:38,719
It burnt me out.
1059
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,929
♪ Machine! ♪
1060
00:53:41,805 --> 00:53:44,766
♪ Machine! ♪
1061
00:53:44,766 --> 00:53:47,436
♪ I won't change anything of my life ♪
1062
00:53:59,948 --> 00:54:01,950
There was one time
where I was in my tour bus,
1063
00:54:01,950 --> 00:54:05,037
and I looked out the window,
and there were fans chasing the bus,
1064
00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:06,997
and they were screaming,
and they were so excited
1065
00:54:06,997 --> 00:54:09,708
that my bus was showing up to the venue.
1066
00:54:09,708 --> 00:54:11,877
And I was just crying.
1067
00:54:11,877 --> 00:54:14,463
Like, I could not stop crying.
1068
00:54:14,463 --> 00:54:16,965
Like, "Why am I living my dream
and doing what I love
1069
00:54:16,965 --> 00:54:18,675
"and have these opportunities
in front of me,
1070
00:54:18,675 --> 00:54:21,720
but I'm so fucking unhappy?"
1071
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,889
I would always feel so gross about myself.
1072
00:54:23,889 --> 00:54:27,059
I knew that being on Disney Channel,
1073
00:54:27,059 --> 00:54:29,186
I was in a coveted position
1074
00:54:29,186 --> 00:54:32,898
that millions of people would
trade me in a heartbeat,
1075
00:54:32,898 --> 00:54:36,109
and just, I felt like
I was taking it for granted.
1076
00:54:36,109 --> 00:54:38,070
But really, I was just...
1077
00:54:38,070 --> 00:54:40,155
just a teenager that was struggling.
1078
00:54:43,450 --> 00:54:45,869
Hi, how's it going?
1079
00:54:45,869 --> 00:54:49,831
Do you guys have any questions for me?
I would love to answer them.
1080
00:54:49,831 --> 00:54:51,542
"What's it like to be living my dream?"
1081
00:54:51,542 --> 00:54:54,586
Um, I am living my dream.
1082
00:54:54,586 --> 00:54:57,339
I don't think I could be
asking to do anything else.
1083
00:54:57,339 --> 00:54:59,258
I'm, like, having the
best time in my life,
1084
00:54:59,258 --> 00:55:01,218
and I...
1085
00:55:01,218 --> 00:55:03,679
I love it so much. It's incredible.
1086
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:06,765
Camp Rock, I remember a lot more than I do
1087
00:55:06,765 --> 00:55:08,016
Camp Rock 2.
Camp Rock 2.
1088
00:55:08,016 --> 00:55:10,227
And there were, like,
entire projects that...
1089
00:55:11,061 --> 00:55:14,857
it was like, "Oh! That film." Like--
Yeah. Yeah.
1090
00:55:14,857 --> 00:55:16,650
Disassociation.
1091
00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:19,862
It's, like, a common thread between--
1092
00:55:19,862 --> 00:55:21,572
- All of us. Yep.
- All of us.
1093
00:55:21,572 --> 00:55:24,783
Please welcome 10-year-old
hip-hop dancer Alyson Stoner.
1094
00:55:29,955 --> 00:55:32,624
Congratulations on the, uh, on the video.
Thank you.
1095
00:55:32,624 --> 00:55:33,876
Best Video of the Year.
1096
00:55:33,876 --> 00:55:34,960
Yes, that was very exciting.
1097
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,795
I'll bet is was exciting!
1098
00:55:36,795 --> 00:55:38,046
Yes, it was, it was.
1099
00:55:38,046 --> 00:55:40,507
♪ I put my thang down,
flip it and reverse it ♪
1100
00:55:42,342 --> 00:55:44,803
I know I started dancing
around 3 years old,
1101
00:55:44,803 --> 00:55:47,890
and I just went straight to, like,
1102
00:55:48,557 --> 00:55:50,559
treating it like work,
1103
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,228
and so I think I was dissociated
1104
00:55:53,228 --> 00:55:55,063
kind of throughout the whole journey.
1105
00:55:56,231 --> 00:55:59,234
On the outside,
you look like everything's okay.
1106
00:55:59,234 --> 00:56:01,737
Yeah.
- And then years later,
1107
00:56:01,737 --> 00:56:04,239
you can't remember a thing.
1108
00:56:12,331 --> 00:56:14,208
You've been working!
Yes!
1109
00:56:14,208 --> 00:56:16,627
The first time I was
in front of a professional camera,
1110
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:18,545
I was 16 months old.
1111
00:56:18,545 --> 00:56:20,380
Sixteen--
- Do I remember it? Fuck no.
1112
00:56:22,049 --> 00:56:25,010
Do I have the picture of it? Yes.
I'm, like, shirtless like this,
1113
00:56:25,010 --> 00:56:28,138
and my hair is big and fluffy,
but, um, I do not remember it.
1114
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,600
♪ You got the right one, baby ♪
1115
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,477
Do you remember working on the show?
1116
00:56:33,477 --> 00:56:35,604
No. Okay, wow.
1117
00:56:35,604 --> 00:56:38,106
It's disappearing every single day.
Back in the day,
1118
00:56:38,106 --> 00:56:41,318
probably if you would've asked me that
when I was 13, my answer was,
1119
00:56:41,318 --> 00:56:44,071
"I remember what the floor looked like.
I remember the smells."
1120
00:56:44,071 --> 00:56:46,615
Mm-hmm.
- But even that is a recall from a recall.
1121
00:56:46,615 --> 00:56:48,909
Like, nothing is a pure memory right now.
1122
00:56:48,909 --> 00:56:50,953
I also wanna talk about that a little bit.
1123
00:56:50,953 --> 00:56:53,080
Like, 'cause I don't--
1124
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,332
You guest starred on my show
Sonny with a Chance.
1125
00:56:55,332 --> 00:56:56,416
Yes, I did.
1126
00:56:56,416 --> 00:56:58,836
I've completed my own investigation!
1127
00:56:58,836 --> 00:57:01,338
And my own conclusion is that you
1128
00:57:01,338 --> 00:57:03,715
are a wackadoodle-doo.
1129
00:57:03,715 --> 00:57:05,467
I'm a wackadoodle-who?
1130
00:57:05,467 --> 00:57:06,635
Doo!
1131
00:57:06,635 --> 00:57:08,178
- What?!
- Whoa, hey! Okay, girls, girls, girls.
1132
00:57:08,178 --> 00:57:09,763
When we first got on the phone
1133
00:57:09,763 --> 00:57:13,100
to talk about this project,
you were like--
1134
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,185
I was like, "I watched you
on That's so Raven,
1135
00:57:15,185 --> 00:57:18,397
such an inspiration." You were like,
"Bitch, I was on your show."
1136
00:57:18,397 --> 00:57:21,108
And I was like, "Oh, my God, she was!"
1137
00:57:21,108 --> 00:57:22,818
Yeah.
- And I--
1138
00:57:22,818 --> 00:57:25,988
But it was part of my disassociation
that I don't even remember
1139
00:57:25,988 --> 00:57:28,323
so much of my show that I was on.
Yeah.
1140
00:57:28,323 --> 00:57:30,659
But I do remember how
difficult I was to work with
1141
00:57:30,659 --> 00:57:32,828
because I was in so much pain,
and I was hurting.
1142
00:57:32,828 --> 00:57:36,331
I mean, you weren't the nicest person.
Right.
1143
00:57:36,331 --> 00:57:40,377
You weren't like, "Welcome!" You know?
You weren't doing that. But,
1144
00:57:41,503 --> 00:57:43,797
being the type of person I am
1145
00:57:43,797 --> 00:57:46,425
and that I've been in the industry
for as long as you,
1146
00:57:46,425 --> 00:57:49,845
and I understand
the glaze over the eyes...
1147
00:57:49,845 --> 00:57:51,346
Mm.
1148
00:57:51,346 --> 00:57:52,890
...I didn't hold it against you.
1149
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:54,099
Yeah.
- I just was like,
1150
00:57:54,099 --> 00:57:56,727
"Something's going on there."
1151
00:57:56,727 --> 00:57:58,687
We love you!
1152
00:57:58,687 --> 00:58:01,440
Aw, thank you. There we go.
1153
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,526
Uh, I took your pen. Sorry.
1154
00:58:04,526 --> 00:58:06,820
It just kind of happened so fast.
1155
00:58:06,820 --> 00:58:11,158
Our stars have become true global
megastars since the first movie.
1156
00:58:11,909 --> 00:58:13,952
It must be overwhelming,
1157
00:58:13,952 --> 00:58:18,832
and a lot of these kids
come from normal backgrounds,
1158
00:58:18,832 --> 00:58:22,419
and the pressure can be
absolutely excruciating
1159
00:58:22,419 --> 00:58:25,422
to the point that some
don't cope all that well.
1160
00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:30,719
I felt like more of
an equal when I did Camp Rock
1161
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,930
because the first one,
we were all at The Grand.
1162
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:36,308
Okay, the memories are flooding! Um...
1163
00:58:36,308 --> 00:58:39,186
I do know that we had
a bunch of cast dinners
1164
00:58:39,186 --> 00:58:40,771
at the restaurant.
Yes.
1165
00:58:43,273 --> 00:58:47,152
Then, my career exploded,
1166
00:58:48,445 --> 00:58:51,615
and all of a sudden,
I was staying at the Four Seasons.
1167
00:58:53,534 --> 00:58:58,664
There was definitely a power dynamic
and a shift in that.
1168
00:58:58,664 --> 00:59:01,375
When the second movie came,
it felt really validating
1169
00:59:01,375 --> 00:59:05,212
because I had been leveled up,
but I was trading connection for success.
1170
00:59:07,923 --> 00:59:12,928
I remember that it felt so hard
to access you in that way.
1171
00:59:12,928 --> 00:59:15,597
Oh yeah.
- Like, we had lost that thread of trust.
1172
00:59:15,597 --> 00:59:18,392
Mm-hmm.
- We had lost that closeness.
1173
00:59:18,392 --> 00:59:20,644
It didn't seem maybe like you wanted
1174
00:59:20,644 --> 00:59:22,688
- to be reached either at that point.
- Mm-hmm.
1175
00:59:22,688 --> 00:59:27,401
And so, the last few years
of working together
1176
00:59:28,151 --> 00:59:30,153
felt really challenging.
1177
00:59:31,113 --> 00:59:36,451
The... treatment did feel
drastically different.
1178
00:59:44,459 --> 00:59:48,547
My heart is racing.
[laughs] Oh, no!
1179
00:59:48,547 --> 00:59:53,844
Um, I do remember, you know,
a sense of walking on eggshells.
1180
00:59:53,844 --> 00:59:56,972
- Mm-hmm.
- And so there was definitely, like,
1181
00:59:57,723 --> 01:00:00,893
f-- a lot of fear of a blow-up.
1182
01:00:00,893 --> 01:00:03,061
I'm just trying to get stuff done,
but if you guys don't care--
1183
01:00:03,061 --> 01:00:04,855
Mitchie!
1184
01:00:04,855 --> 01:00:07,357
We all care. You gotta lighten up.
1185
01:00:08,108 --> 01:00:11,111
Really? And what will that get us?
1186
01:00:12,154 --> 01:00:16,116
I know that we both were
going through our own stuff,
1187
01:00:16,116 --> 01:00:20,704
but it still didn't give me an excuse
to treat anyone poorly,
1188
01:00:20,704 --> 01:00:25,834
and so I just wanna genuinely,
deeply apologize for like any...
1189
01:00:26,543 --> 01:00:29,671
um, stress or any, like,
walking on eggshells,
1190
01:00:29,671 --> 01:00:30,797
any hurt feelings.
1191
01:00:30,797 --> 01:00:33,050
Like, I'm genuinely so sorry for that.
1192
01:00:33,050 --> 01:00:34,885
Thank you.
And I look back at that time,
1193
01:00:34,885 --> 01:00:37,721
and I have, like, profound sadness
'cause I'm like,
1194
01:00:37,721 --> 01:00:39,806
"How many people did I treat poorly?"
1195
01:00:41,058 --> 01:00:46,146
There are such big feelings that I've had
since you told me you were doing this.
1196
01:00:47,105 --> 01:00:50,984
I know that things that have
happened along the way, though,
1197
01:00:51,693 --> 01:00:55,614
certain excess and certain behaviors
and certain looking the other way
1198
01:00:55,614 --> 01:00:58,200
or certain...
...forcing things
1199
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,495
has led to my own rebellion or downfall.
1200
01:01:01,912 --> 01:01:02,913
Um...
1201
01:01:03,622 --> 01:01:06,583
But, again, those were all my actions.
1202
01:01:06,583 --> 01:01:10,546
Those were my reactions.
That was my coping mechanisms.
1203
01:01:10,546 --> 01:01:14,007
I'm very accountable.
I don't blame other people.
1204
01:01:14,007 --> 01:01:15,342
Well...
1205
01:01:16,552 --> 01:01:19,847
it's hard to say that
you don't blame other people
1206
01:01:20,764 --> 01:01:23,100
when other people
1207
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:25,686
may have been giving you
1208
01:01:25,686 --> 01:01:28,897
substances as a kid.
Yeah, yeah.
1209
01:01:28,897 --> 01:01:32,150
Because at, at that age, at however old--
1210
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:34,945
How old were you when you
were first given something?
1211
01:01:36,238 --> 01:01:40,284
I mean, I used to get high
with my mom's friend at, like...
1212
01:01:42,536 --> 01:01:45,122
10. You know?
Right.
1213
01:01:45,122 --> 01:01:50,460
And I thought she was so cool,
and she would give weed to me and her son.
1214
01:01:50,460 --> 01:01:51,962
Wow.
- Mm.
1215
01:01:52,546 --> 01:01:56,175
I would say it's hard
to not blame someone else
1216
01:01:56,175 --> 01:01:57,467
when you're 10 years old.
1217
01:01:58,010 --> 01:02:01,263
I mean, having
a 10-year-old daughter now, I--
1218
01:02:01,930 --> 01:02:03,765
I just, I--
1219
01:02:03,765 --> 01:02:05,851
It's unfathomable.
1220
01:02:05,851 --> 01:02:07,644
Right.
- Um...
1221
01:02:08,770 --> 01:02:12,566
But that's just how I grew up.
1222
01:02:19,615 --> 01:02:23,577
I immediately went right
to drugs and alcohol,
1223
01:02:24,036 --> 01:02:26,580
uh, in my teens.
1224
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:29,750
I don't remember it feeling
like there was any other way
1225
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:32,044
to be happy.
Right.
1226
01:02:32,044 --> 01:02:35,797
Um, and I would imagine,
too, if you felt like
1227
01:02:35,797 --> 01:02:37,883
you had absolutely
no control over your life,
1228
01:02:37,883 --> 01:02:39,927
that's one of the few things
you had control over.
1229
01:02:39,927 --> 01:02:42,971
I would say,
"If you're gonna work me like an adult,
1230
01:02:42,971 --> 01:02:44,473
I'm gonna party like an adult."
1231
01:02:44,473 --> 01:02:46,058
I had to be so conscious
1232
01:02:46,058 --> 01:02:48,560
of everything that I did as a Disney kid.
1233
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,939
You obviously couldn't
cuss or swear in public.
1234
01:02:51,939 --> 01:02:55,400
You couldn't be seen with red Solo cups
1235
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,238
because it could insinuate
that there's alcohol in there.
1236
01:02:59,238 --> 01:03:00,906
I actually remember that, too.
Yeah.
1237
01:03:00,906 --> 01:03:02,991
If you, if you had a Solo cup on set,
1238
01:03:02,991 --> 01:03:05,452
it would be a whole thing.
Yeah, it was a whole thing,
1239
01:03:05,452 --> 01:03:07,079
- and so I never was photographed--
- So I put--
1240
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:08,622
I put my booze in my Diet Coke can.
1241
01:03:08,622 --> 01:03:11,583
[laughs] I put it in a coffee cup!
Yes.
1242
01:03:11,583 --> 01:03:15,504
And I would say to my assistant,
"Can I have a warming Diet Coke, please?"
1243
01:03:16,964 --> 01:03:20,968
Teen star Demi Lovato's rise
to superstardom has taken a detour
1244
01:03:20,968 --> 01:03:22,928
straight to a treatment center.
1245
01:03:22,928 --> 01:03:26,014
I knew I couldn't
show that I was drinking,
1246
01:03:26,014 --> 01:03:27,766
even though I was.
1247
01:03:27,766 --> 01:03:30,519
It just made me rebel even more.
1248
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:34,273
There was a moment after the incident,
and you left tour where--
1249
01:03:34,273 --> 01:03:37,860
The incident, by the way,
just so that everyone is aware,
1250
01:03:37,860 --> 01:03:40,445
is when I...
1251
01:03:40,445 --> 01:03:42,531
had punched...
1252
01:03:42,531 --> 01:03:45,367
my backup dancer
while on tour in South America.
1253
01:03:47,870 --> 01:03:50,497
I got kicked off the tour, basically,
1254
01:03:50,497 --> 01:03:53,542
and I'm on my way home,
and we have a layover in Dallas,
1255
01:03:53,542 --> 01:03:55,544
and I'm like, "When do we land in LA?"
1256
01:03:57,713 --> 01:03:58,797
Wait.
1257
01:03:58,797 --> 01:04:00,299
It turns out that they had set up
1258
01:04:00,299 --> 01:04:03,385
for me to go to treatment
in a suburb in Chicago.
1259
01:04:04,094 --> 01:04:06,930
It wasn't like a situation where it was
like I came to the conclusion
1260
01:04:06,930 --> 01:04:10,058
that I needed help.
It was like, "I'm getting punished.
1261
01:04:10,058 --> 01:04:13,103
This is the end of my career.
What did I just do?"
1262
01:04:13,103 --> 01:04:15,522
Yeah.
And I felt so hopeless.
1263
01:04:15,522 --> 01:04:17,941
There were just these...
1264
01:04:17,941 --> 01:04:21,361
intense pressures that were incessant.
1265
01:04:22,196 --> 01:04:24,948
I mean,
I still think about what's on-brand.
1266
01:04:24,948 --> 01:04:26,033
Yeah.
1267
01:04:26,033 --> 01:04:28,368
That's something that
I deal with to this day,
1268
01:04:28,952 --> 01:04:31,914
that teenage role model,
1269
01:04:31,914 --> 01:04:34,124
and those words should
never be put together,
1270
01:04:34,124 --> 01:04:35,792
teenage role model.
1271
01:04:35,792 --> 01:04:38,045
Together, we'll save the planet,
one friend at a time.
1272
01:04:42,466 --> 01:04:45,969
There becomes a point where the kids
1273
01:04:45,969 --> 01:04:49,139
are not just characters
that they're playing.
1274
01:04:49,139 --> 01:04:51,433
They are role models.
1275
01:04:51,433 --> 01:04:53,185
First starts in the '90s.
1276
01:04:53,185 --> 01:04:54,520
Welcome to the Mickey Mouse Club.
1277
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,731
It's not just,
"I'm an actor on this show."
1278
01:04:57,731 --> 01:05:00,442
It becomes, "I am this character.
1279
01:05:00,442 --> 01:05:02,528
I am this brand."
1280
01:05:02,528 --> 01:05:05,405
And it really shoots off
into the stratosphere
1281
01:05:05,405 --> 01:05:08,367
with the idea of the superstar pop idol.
1282
01:05:14,081 --> 01:05:16,917
That includes, "Buy this stuff."
1283
01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:21,505
Or, "Buy what I'm wearing."
It becomes unprecedented
1284
01:05:21,505 --> 01:05:23,090
in a way that you just couldn't do before.
1285
01:05:23,966 --> 01:05:26,426
When we think about child stars,
1286
01:05:26,426 --> 01:05:28,720
really what is gonna set them apart
1287
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,058
is not that they have the best soprano
you've ever heard in a child.
1288
01:05:33,058 --> 01:05:36,645
Four sizes. 12 inches, 15 inches,
1289
01:05:36,645 --> 01:05:38,981
17 inches, and 19 inches.
1290
01:05:38,981 --> 01:05:43,026
It's going to be
that the adults around them
1291
01:05:43,026 --> 01:05:46,405
are building an empire
1292
01:05:46,405 --> 01:05:50,033
that is designed to turn them
into, really, a vehicle
1293
01:05:50,033 --> 01:05:54,079
for advertising,
product placement, and viewership.
1294
01:05:57,291 --> 01:06:00,002
At its peak,
Hannah Montana was generating
1295
01:06:00,002 --> 01:06:03,797
about a billion dollars from
many different revenue points,
1296
01:06:03,797 --> 01:06:06,049
but that is the type of money
1297
01:06:06,049 --> 01:06:09,636
that not just the channel executives
pay attention to.
1298
01:06:09,636 --> 01:06:13,682
Wall Street analysts ask executives
about it on their earnings calls.
1299
01:06:13,682 --> 01:06:17,019
The board of the company is aware of it,
1300
01:06:17,019 --> 01:06:21,023
and that's a whole different
level of pressure and scrutiny.
1301
01:06:21,023 --> 01:06:24,318
Disney Best in Breed in the media group.
We're gonna talk about that. Bill?
1302
01:06:28,906 --> 01:06:33,327
As the conglomerates grow,
they become multinational behemoths.
1303
01:06:35,495 --> 01:06:38,707
Viacom owns MTV, BET, VH1,
1304
01:06:38,707 --> 01:06:41,627
Country Music Network, Nickelodeon.
1305
01:06:41,627 --> 01:06:44,505
The CEO of the company in 2010 told me
1306
01:06:44,505 --> 01:06:48,258
that there was no more important
component than Nickelodeon.
1307
01:06:48,258 --> 01:06:52,304
It was the cash cow.
It was what drove the entire company.
1308
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:56,600
Good day everyone,
and welcome to the Viacom conference call.
1309
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,895
We've seen robust
audience engagement with kids.
1310
01:06:59,895 --> 01:07:01,355
Our strategy is working.
1311
01:07:01,939 --> 01:07:04,816
We're investing in content
with a disciplined approach.
1312
01:07:04,816 --> 01:07:06,235
We have a lot in the pipeline.
1313
01:07:06,235 --> 01:07:08,153
Good day, ladies and gentlemen,
1314
01:07:08,153 --> 01:07:09,696
and welcome to the Walt Disney
1315
01:07:09,696 --> 01:07:12,866
second quarter 2009
earnings conference call.
1316
01:07:12,866 --> 01:07:14,701
Be great if you could comment
1317
01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:16,995
on how strong you feel like
the upcoming content cycle is
1318
01:07:16,995 --> 01:07:19,998
at Disney Channel.
We've had such a great run,
1319
01:07:19,998 --> 01:07:22,334
and particularly in summer with
High School Musical
1320
01:07:22,334 --> 01:07:23,836
and years ago with Cheetah Girls...
1321
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:34,763
These shows generally
run for about four years,
1322
01:07:34,763 --> 01:07:37,850
tape about 100 episodes,
1323
01:07:37,850 --> 01:07:41,186
and at the beginning,
the child star and their family
1324
01:07:41,186 --> 01:07:43,689
is extremely grateful, right?
1325
01:07:43,689 --> 01:07:45,607
"All of a sudden, I'm a star."
1326
01:07:45,607 --> 01:07:48,819
And toward the end,
they're starting to think about
1327
01:07:48,819 --> 01:07:52,447
what, what my next career move might be,
1328
01:07:52,447 --> 01:07:56,785
and they want things that
the brand might not want.
1329
01:07:56,785 --> 01:07:59,121
You all are gonna freak out.
1330
01:07:59,121 --> 01:08:02,040
They want to age into
a new type of entertainment.
1331
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,834
That was what Miley Cyrus
was doing, right?
1332
01:08:06,044 --> 01:08:09,882
"I'm not a nerdy 13-year-old anymore.
1333
01:08:09,882 --> 01:08:12,259
"I'm becoming an adult.
1334
01:08:12,259 --> 01:08:14,928
I have other aspirations than
being on Disney Channel."
1335
01:08:16,805 --> 01:08:20,267
That became a five-alarm fire for Disney.
1336
01:08:20,934 --> 01:08:24,897
When something like that happens,
it's a very big operation.
1337
01:08:24,897 --> 01:08:28,108
Hundreds of people are, are trying
1338
01:08:28,108 --> 01:08:31,153
to keep these properties,
really, on track.
1339
01:08:33,906 --> 01:08:37,159
Basically, I signed
an umbrella deal for everything,
1340
01:08:37,159 --> 01:08:40,954
so they owned all my rights to everything
except for social media.
1341
01:08:40,954 --> 01:08:42,998
We were very smart to be
able to keep that separate.
1342
01:08:42,998 --> 01:08:47,127
But, if I had, like, a brand deal,
I had to get it approved by Nickelodeon.
1343
01:08:47,127 --> 01:08:48,462
- Okay.
- So, that was always, yeah.
1344
01:08:48,462 --> 01:08:50,714
But, they own everything.
1345
01:08:52,424 --> 01:08:55,761
When I was 17,
it just became something that
1346
01:08:55,761 --> 01:08:58,847
I didn't wanna be
a part of at all anymore,
1347
01:08:58,847 --> 01:09:02,309
would do anything I could
to break away from it, get out of it.
1348
01:09:02,309 --> 01:09:04,728
Always people would ask me like,
1349
01:09:04,728 --> 01:09:08,273
"Are you-- Are you gay?"
And I would just be like,
1350
01:09:08,273 --> 01:09:10,067
"I don't really, like,
think I'm anything."
1351
01:09:12,361 --> 01:09:14,154
It was like 2:00 in the morning,
1352
01:09:14,154 --> 01:09:15,656
I was on FaceTime with my girlfriend,
1353
01:09:15,656 --> 01:09:17,449
and I did a video singing Born This Way.
1354
01:09:17,449 --> 01:09:21,036
♪ No matter gay, straight, or bi,
lesbian, transgender life ♪
1355
01:09:21,036 --> 01:09:24,456
♪ I'm on the right track, baby,
I was born to survive ♪
1356
01:09:24,456 --> 01:09:26,667
And I was like, "I think I wanna
put this on my Reels Story,"
1357
01:09:26,667 --> 01:09:28,877
'cause it was all my close friends.
She's like, "Okay, do it."
1358
01:09:28,877 --> 01:09:30,879
Boop, that was it.
Fell asleep, woke up the next morning
1359
01:09:30,879 --> 01:09:32,840
and was like, "Oh, my God!"
1360
01:09:36,093 --> 01:09:38,512
I didn't realize, I guess,
1361
01:09:38,512 --> 01:09:42,307
that, like, no child star,
as still a child star,
1362
01:09:42,307 --> 01:09:44,393
has ever come out before.
1363
01:09:44,393 --> 01:09:47,229
The president of the network called me
1364
01:09:47,229 --> 01:09:49,982
and was like,
"What are we gonna tell the kids?"
1365
01:09:49,982 --> 01:09:51,275
And I was like, "What do you mean?"
1366
01:09:51,275 --> 01:09:54,278
And he was like, "What are we gonna tell
kids and parents?" And I was like,
1367
01:09:55,696 --> 01:09:56,947
again, like, "What do you mean?"
1368
01:09:56,947 --> 01:09:59,324
And he was like,
"What are we gonna tell them about this?"
1369
01:09:59,324 --> 01:10:01,451
And I was like, "That I'm happy?
1370
01:10:01,451 --> 01:10:04,079
"That I, like am...
1371
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:06,456
"What? Like, you want me to tell 'em
that I'm making out with a girl?
1372
01:10:06,456 --> 01:10:08,083
I'm not gonna tell them that!"
Yeah.
1373
01:10:08,083 --> 01:10:10,502
But, like, you want me-- Like...
I don't know.
1374
01:10:10,502 --> 01:10:13,755
And he was like, "Well, you need
to have a call with every retailer
1375
01:10:13,755 --> 01:10:16,133
and tell 'em that you're not going crazy."
1376
01:10:16,133 --> 01:10:19,553
I was like, "Okay. Like, alright, sick."
Going crazy.
1377
01:10:19,553 --> 01:10:21,555
Going crazy.
Came out, came out, going crazy.
1378
01:10:21,555 --> 01:10:24,516
And I, I-- So I did, and I had
a call with every retailer,
1379
01:10:24,516 --> 01:10:28,061
Target, Walmart, JCPenney,
Toys R Us, Claire's,
1380
01:10:28,061 --> 01:10:30,522
Justice, every retailer at the time.
1381
01:10:30,522 --> 01:10:33,108
And Amazon, had a call with them.
1382
01:10:33,108 --> 01:10:35,194
Oh, my God, I can't imagine.
1383
01:10:35,194 --> 01:10:38,322
And everything,
everything after I came out
1384
01:10:38,322 --> 01:10:40,199
was, like, changed.
1385
01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:42,201
The way they communicated with me changed.
1386
01:10:42,201 --> 01:10:44,161
The way they worked with me changed.
1387
01:10:44,161 --> 01:10:47,664
The way they developed my work changed.
Everything changed.
1388
01:10:47,664 --> 01:10:50,042
I remember they had
the Kids' Choice Awards,
1389
01:10:50,042 --> 01:10:53,587
and I, for the last seven years,
like, have done everything
1390
01:10:53,587 --> 01:10:55,047
for the Kids' Choice Awards.
1391
01:10:55,047 --> 01:10:58,175
Mm-hmm.
Performed, hosted,
1392
01:10:58,175 --> 01:11:01,345
nominated, won, presented,
like done it all.
1393
01:11:01,345 --> 01:11:03,639
♪ I'ma come back like a boomerang ♪
1394
01:11:03,639 --> 01:11:05,098
A lot of you have been asking me
1395
01:11:05,098 --> 01:11:09,061
why I'm not at the Nickelodeon
Kids' Choice Awards tonight,
1396
01:11:09,061 --> 01:11:11,313
and the answer is very simple.
1397
01:11:11,313 --> 01:11:13,732
I wasn't invited.
1398
01:11:13,732 --> 01:11:16,109
I'm not sure why,
1399
01:11:16,109 --> 01:11:18,195
but I just didn't get an invite.
1400
01:11:18,195 --> 01:11:20,697
I basically got, like, blackballed
from the company.
1401
01:11:23,534 --> 01:11:26,119
They said that it was, like, an accident.
1402
01:11:26,787 --> 01:11:28,789
And I don't know. It--
1403
01:11:29,373 --> 01:11:31,375
I guess I just didn't realize, like,
1404
01:11:32,125 --> 01:11:34,336
how young I was.
Mm-hmm.
1405
01:11:34,336 --> 01:11:37,589
How "scary" it was supposed to be.
1406
01:11:37,589 --> 01:11:39,758
But I think it's the best thing
that I could've ever done.
1407
01:11:39,758 --> 01:11:42,010
I don't think coming out
should be a scary thing.
1408
01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:43,345
Right.
- I wish it wasn't.
1409
01:11:43,345 --> 01:11:45,389
I wish there wasn't that stigma around it,
1410
01:11:45,389 --> 01:11:46,932
but there is.
Right.
1411
01:11:46,932 --> 01:11:49,643
My parents were like, "We knew." I was
like, "Alright, you knew. Okay, for sure."
1412
01:11:49,643 --> 01:11:52,354
- Right.
- But, like, if you pass through
1413
01:11:52,354 --> 01:11:55,274
the industry mask, you still have to meet
1414
01:11:55,274 --> 01:11:57,109
the mask that's
the gay person that's like,
1415
01:11:57,109 --> 01:11:59,945
"Oh, you not getting past
this one to find the real me."
1416
01:11:59,945 --> 01:12:01,405
Right.
"This is mine to hold."
1417
01:12:01,405 --> 01:12:03,490
And that one, no one saw,
1418
01:12:03,490 --> 01:12:05,909
probably... yeah.
1419
01:12:05,909 --> 01:12:09,037
For-for-for-for-for a long time.
Mm-hmm.
1420
01:12:10,205 --> 01:12:13,709
There was a moment in my life when I got
asked if I wanted to stop the industry.
1421
01:12:14,793 --> 01:12:18,046
But it was, like, second season of
That's So Raven.
1422
01:12:18,046 --> 01:12:21,300
It was, like, third album.
Mm-hmm.
1423
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:23,844
And I'm like, "Why would you
ask me that question now?
1424
01:12:23,844 --> 01:12:25,804
"Just to make me feel bad to say yes
1425
01:12:25,804 --> 01:12:28,265
when you know I don't really
wanna be here right now?"
1426
01:12:35,063 --> 01:12:37,191
I didn't know that
you could take time off
1427
01:12:37,191 --> 01:12:40,277
because no one told me.
1428
01:12:42,738 --> 01:12:46,533
At one point,
I played 70 shows in 90 days.
1429
01:12:47,284 --> 01:12:49,494
I was gonna have two nights off,
1430
01:12:49,494 --> 01:12:52,497
and then, when push came to shove,
1431
01:12:53,248 --> 01:12:57,085
they were like, "We need those two days
of rehearsals for the movie."
1432
01:12:58,837 --> 01:13:01,340
People are going to milk
all of your light out of you
1433
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:03,509
because, "You're young
and you have the energy,"
1434
01:13:03,509 --> 01:13:05,010
but you do not.
Right.
1435
01:13:05,010 --> 01:13:06,637
You're still a human.
1436
01:13:06,637 --> 01:13:09,515
When I look back, when I was working...
Mm-hmm.
1437
01:13:09,515 --> 01:13:11,808
...I was undiagnosed bipolar.
1438
01:13:12,643 --> 01:13:15,270
I dealt with depression.
I dealt with all these things,
1439
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:17,940
and I also had a eating disorder...
Yeah.
1440
01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,692
...and was binge drinking on the weekends.
1441
01:13:20,692 --> 01:13:23,320
Ooh, girl.
And yeah, I was a mess, and--
1442
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,073
What age? Underage?
This was, yeah, underage.
1443
01:13:26,073 --> 01:13:27,157
Damn!
1444
01:13:28,158 --> 01:13:31,036
It was the escapism that
I was chasing because I couldn't...
1445
01:13:31,036 --> 01:13:33,413
find time off.
1446
01:13:36,959 --> 01:13:38,544
This is a cry for help.
1447
01:13:38,544 --> 01:13:40,295
We're gonna be doing
the Lindsay Lohan walk.
1448
01:13:40,295 --> 01:13:42,214
We're gonna be doing
the Paris Hilton walk.
1449
01:13:42,214 --> 01:13:45,926
Lovato's troubles bring to mind
the problems of another Disney star.
1450
01:13:45,926 --> 01:13:49,179
There's actually research there that shows
1451
01:13:49,179 --> 01:13:52,474
people who experience fame
have an average lifespan
1452
01:13:52,474 --> 01:13:56,228
that's 14 years younger
than non-famous people
1453
01:13:56,228 --> 01:14:01,066
due to the rate of
mental health struggles...
1454
01:14:01,066 --> 01:14:03,902
Mm-hmm.
- ...and that a famous person
1455
01:14:03,902 --> 01:14:07,239
is four times more likely
to die by suicide.
1456
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:12,327
And that fame also has,
uh, addictive properties,
1457
01:14:12,327 --> 01:14:15,414
uh, similar to substances.
1458
01:14:16,748 --> 01:14:18,750
So, if that's the case,
1459
01:14:19,334 --> 01:14:24,548
why are we hooking a child to a drug
1460
01:14:24,548 --> 01:14:26,842
that's fundamentally altering
1461
01:14:26,842 --> 01:14:30,429
their brain chemistry
and future development?
1462
01:14:32,806 --> 01:14:35,184
Sweet 16, screen star Judy Garland
1463
01:14:35,184 --> 01:14:39,563
cuts her birthday cake at a party
given by film chief Louis B. Mayer
1464
01:14:39,563 --> 01:14:41,815
and attended by Hollywood's younger set,
1465
01:14:41,815 --> 01:14:44,902
including irrepressible Mickey Rooney.
1466
01:14:47,029 --> 01:14:48,780
Judy Garland's daughter Liza Minnelli
1467
01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:50,908
had requested that
her mother's funeral be held
1468
01:14:50,908 --> 01:14:53,035
in as dignified a manner as possible.
1469
01:14:53,035 --> 01:14:54,995
Some of the thousands of people
who came today...
1470
01:14:58,498 --> 01:14:59,750
Finding drugs was easy.
1471
01:15:00,959 --> 01:15:03,462
That was the only way
I knew how to escape.
1472
01:15:05,797 --> 01:15:07,674
But I was dealing with something that I--
1473
01:15:07,674 --> 01:15:09,801
that was much bigger
than what I could see.
1474
01:15:15,516 --> 01:15:18,352
[on phone] I think
it's Valium or something, I don't know.
1475
01:15:18,352 --> 01:15:21,313
Hollywood is mourning
one of its brightest young stars,
1476
01:15:21,313 --> 01:15:24,566
23-year-old River Phoenix,
who collapsed and died
1477
01:15:24,566 --> 01:15:27,653
outside a Hollywood nightclub
early on Sunday morning.
1478
01:15:30,405 --> 01:15:32,991
Lee Thompson Young was found dead.
1479
01:15:32,991 --> 01:15:36,328
Pop star Aaron Carter
has died at the age of 34.
1480
01:15:36,328 --> 01:15:39,623
The troubled performer
grew up in the limelight...
1481
01:15:39,623 --> 01:15:42,292
I was so unhappy
and in the muck of it all.
1482
01:15:42,292 --> 01:15:44,837
[phone] About how old is she?
1483
01:15:44,837 --> 01:15:46,755
[phone] We just need
to get somebody out here.
1484
01:15:46,755 --> 01:15:49,550
[phone] Hang in there, okay?
We're on our way. Stay with the patient.
1485
01:15:49,550 --> 01:15:51,301
I'm gonna remain on the line
with you all the way
1486
01:15:51,301 --> 01:15:54,304
until the paramedics arrive, okay?
1487
01:15:54,304 --> 01:15:55,764
I get a lot of anxiety
1488
01:15:55,764 --> 01:15:58,684
when I think of how close
I came to not being here at all.
1489
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:07,526
I just tapped out.
1490
01:16:35,387 --> 01:16:36,763
We don't have to start with this one.
1491
01:16:36,763 --> 01:16:40,017
I did get you some other ones
that I think that you will like,
1492
01:16:40,017 --> 01:16:41,602
specifically this one.
1493
01:16:41,602 --> 01:16:44,396
Oh, my God! Well, we have to do this one!
1494
01:16:44,396 --> 01:16:46,815
That's what I was thinking.
1495
01:16:46,815 --> 01:16:48,567
We gotta start with the edges.
1496
01:16:51,111 --> 01:16:54,239
I feel like I didn't see you very much
1497
01:16:55,157 --> 01:16:58,952
- for a few years of my life.
- Yeah.
1498
01:16:58,952 --> 01:17:03,624
And I feel like I didn't anybody very much
except for the people I was working with,
1499
01:17:03,624 --> 01:17:06,418
but especially when you were on
Desperate Housewives
1500
01:17:06,418 --> 01:17:08,670
and I was doing Sonny with a Chance.
Yeah.
1501
01:17:08,670 --> 01:17:09,755
How's that one fit?
1502
01:17:09,755 --> 01:17:11,924
Oh, I think we're gonna
need the next size up.
1503
01:17:15,093 --> 01:17:17,554
There is no next size up.
1504
01:17:17,554 --> 01:17:19,932
They don't make princess dresses
for girls over 7.
1505
01:17:19,932 --> 01:17:21,600
She's only 4 and a half.
1506
01:17:22,476 --> 01:17:24,061
Oh...
1507
01:17:24,061 --> 01:17:25,145
Wow.
1508
01:17:25,145 --> 01:17:26,772
Did you ever think,
1509
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:30,234
looking back on being
on Desperate Housewives,
1510
01:17:30,234 --> 01:17:33,487
- where it was so body shaming...
- Yeah.
1511
01:17:33,487 --> 01:17:36,490
...that we had a mom
with an eating disorder.
1512
01:17:37,032 --> 01:17:39,952
I had an eating disorder,
and here you were in this position.
1513
01:17:39,952 --> 01:17:41,578
Like, did that ever occur to you?
1514
01:17:41,578 --> 01:17:43,914
I'm kind of realizing it now,
but at the time,
1515
01:17:43,914 --> 01:17:45,707
I don't think any of us truly realized
1516
01:17:45,707 --> 01:17:47,793
that what was happening
1517
01:17:48,544 --> 01:17:50,379
with us was...
1518
01:17:51,088 --> 01:17:52,089
an eating disorder.
1519
01:17:56,218 --> 01:17:58,136
I don't know, it makes me a little sad.
1520
01:17:58,136 --> 01:18:00,138
Yeah, it makes me sad, too.
1521
01:18:00,138 --> 01:18:02,057
That this was something
1522
01:18:02,057 --> 01:18:04,977
that we were all
battling with individually
1523
01:18:05,602 --> 01:18:07,896
while standing next to each other.
1524
01:18:07,896 --> 01:18:10,274
- Yeah.
- Especially because...
1525
01:18:11,775 --> 01:18:16,196
...that was originally the focus
of my role on Desperate Housewives,
1526
01:18:16,196 --> 01:18:17,823
and then, eventually,
1527
01:18:17,823 --> 01:18:20,617
turned into the focus of my life.
1528
01:18:20,617 --> 01:18:22,411
Mm-hmm.
And...
1529
01:18:22,995 --> 01:18:27,332
I somehow believed
that I was struggling with this
1530
01:18:27,332 --> 01:18:29,835
completely and entirely on my own.
1531
01:18:29,835 --> 01:18:31,587
Yeah, I felt like I was, too.
1532
01:18:31,587 --> 01:18:33,964
Which was just not the case at all.
1533
01:18:33,964 --> 01:18:38,260
Mm-mm. We didn't see much of each other
'cause we both had our own schedules.
1534
01:18:38,260 --> 01:18:40,804
Right, and we were
constantly missing each other.
1535
01:18:40,804 --> 01:18:42,472
Yeah.
- Constantly.
1536
01:18:42,472 --> 01:18:45,601
I mean, if I wasn't working,
you were working.
1537
01:18:45,601 --> 01:18:47,394
We didn't really get
1538
01:18:48,437 --> 01:18:51,398
summers as sisters
1539
01:18:51,398 --> 01:18:53,942
once we moved to LA.
1540
01:18:53,942 --> 01:18:55,444
I would love to make up for lost time,
1541
01:18:55,444 --> 01:18:57,738
even though it's been so long.
1542
01:18:59,781 --> 01:19:02,451
Well, look at that!
We did it.
1543
01:19:02,451 --> 01:19:05,746
So, that's how big the puzzle is,
in case you were wondering.
1544
01:19:05,746 --> 01:19:07,748
I'm so proud of us.
1545
01:19:07,748 --> 01:19:12,878
How do you understand
what is real and important
1546
01:19:14,296 --> 01:19:16,924
and going to feed you and nourish you,
1547
01:19:16,924 --> 01:19:19,384
and what is the candy?
1548
01:19:19,384 --> 01:19:22,721
I now am kind of reprogramming my brain.
1549
01:19:22,721 --> 01:19:25,682
Yep.
- Trying to change things that I learned
1550
01:19:25,682 --> 01:19:28,101
- as a child star.
- 100%.
1551
01:19:28,101 --> 01:19:30,812
It's deprogramming, reprogramming.
1552
01:19:30,812 --> 01:19:32,689
Yeah.
I hope I'm not overstepping,
1553
01:19:32,689 --> 01:19:35,526
but you looked at that overdose and said,
1554
01:19:35,526 --> 01:19:37,861
"I will not go down this way.
1555
01:19:37,861 --> 01:19:41,031
I won't go down at all.
I'm gonna actually rise."
1556
01:19:41,031 --> 01:19:42,115
Yeah.
1557
01:19:42,115 --> 01:19:44,660
"And I'm gonna
come out of this triumphant."
1558
01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:48,789
I can't believe how much I respect life
1559
01:19:48,789 --> 01:19:51,458
knowing that I disrespected it
so many times.
1560
01:19:52,751 --> 01:19:55,629
I think there was plenty of my life
1561
01:19:55,629 --> 01:19:58,507
where I was a human
walking cautionary tale.
1562
01:19:58,507 --> 01:20:00,634
I have done shit no one knows I did
1563
01:20:00,634 --> 01:20:03,804
that is so crazy
that somehow nobody found out about,
1564
01:20:03,804 --> 01:20:06,598
and it's because we all had more anonymity
1565
01:20:06,598 --> 01:20:10,811
before social media,
especially before cell phones.
1566
01:20:10,811 --> 01:20:12,646
- Right, right.
- Oh, my God!
1567
01:20:12,646 --> 01:20:14,690
That's just the world we live in
1568
01:20:14,690 --> 01:20:17,359
and a whole new trade.
Right.
1569
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:23,282
A whole new world
of a job opportunity that's been created.
1570
01:20:23,282 --> 01:20:27,828
And then, that goes in with, like, likes
or "followers,"
1571
01:20:28,203 --> 01:20:32,958
um, how valuable one is.
1572
01:20:35,127 --> 01:20:38,380
When I was really young, I was 13,
I got addicted to numbers.
1573
01:20:38,380 --> 01:20:39,923
And so, I would see my YouTube channel,
1574
01:20:39,923 --> 01:20:42,342
and I would see how many views I got,
1575
01:20:42,342 --> 01:20:43,802
and I would see how much money it made,
1576
01:20:43,802 --> 01:20:46,054
six digits a month easily.
1577
01:20:46,054 --> 01:20:47,973
And I would see how many
subscribers it gained,
1578
01:20:47,973 --> 01:20:49,308
and then I wanted to beat it,
1579
01:20:49,308 --> 01:20:50,851
and then I wanted to beat it.
Right.
1580
01:20:50,851 --> 01:20:53,353
And then I wouldn't beat it,
and I would go crazy.
1581
01:20:53,353 --> 01:20:54,730
Okay.
- Do you do Snapchat?
1582
01:20:54,730 --> 01:20:56,481
I don't.
1583
01:20:56,481 --> 01:20:58,775
Do you know how many people would die
1584
01:20:58,775 --> 01:21:01,695
to see you getting ready in the morning?
1585
01:21:01,695 --> 01:21:04,198
Yeah.
- You eating lunch,
1586
01:21:04,198 --> 01:21:05,699
like, you know what I mean?
1587
01:21:05,699 --> 01:21:08,160
I do it on a very extreme level.
1588
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,954
I post 250 to 300 things a day on there.
1589
01:21:11,622 --> 01:21:12,623
Uh-huh.
1590
01:21:12,623 --> 01:21:15,250
- It's nuts.
- It's so much work!
1591
01:21:15,250 --> 01:21:19,004
It's so much work,
and my whole day is filmed.
1592
01:21:19,004 --> 01:21:20,088
Gimme your take on this.
1593
01:21:20,088 --> 01:21:21,757
Everything I eat is filmed.
1594
01:21:21,757 --> 01:21:24,760
Every song I sing in the car is filmed.
Everything I do gets picked apart.
1595
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,429
Everything I do gets talked about.
1596
01:21:27,429 --> 01:21:30,641
There's nothing left for me
at the end of the day.
1597
01:21:40,692 --> 01:21:44,279
Hi! How are you?
1598
01:21:44,279 --> 01:21:45,781
Nice to meet you guys.
1599
01:21:47,407 --> 01:21:49,368
- First of all, welcome. Great to see you.
- Thank you.
1600
01:21:49,368 --> 01:21:51,537
So, Demi, I'm curious,
when you first heard
1601
01:21:51,537 --> 01:21:53,288
that there were gonna
be a bunch of kids here,
1602
01:21:53,288 --> 01:21:55,040
and you were gonna be
talking to these kids,
1603
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,416
what went through your head?
1604
01:21:56,416 --> 01:21:58,877
Oh, just joy.
1605
01:21:59,795 --> 01:22:02,422
I wish that I had been
able to ask questions
1606
01:22:02,422 --> 01:22:05,926
to somebody in the industry
when I was first starting out.
1607
01:22:05,926 --> 01:22:08,178
I didn't know what
I was getting myself into...
1608
01:22:08,178 --> 01:22:10,514
- Mm-hmm.
- ...and I didn't have a mentor.
1609
01:22:10,514 --> 01:22:12,266
There wasn't any guidance,
1610
01:22:12,266 --> 01:22:18,146
and there definitely is not a manual
on how to navigate this industry
1611
01:22:18,146 --> 01:22:20,065
at such a young age.
Yeah.
1612
01:22:20,065 --> 01:22:23,819
Like, obviously, you wanna make
a great film, TV show, or commercial,
1613
01:22:23,819 --> 01:22:26,613
but what matters is your well-being
1614
01:22:26,613 --> 01:22:29,074
and the other things in your life
1615
01:22:29,074 --> 01:22:31,118
- like family and friends.
- Hmm.
1616
01:22:31,118 --> 01:22:32,828
That's what really matters.
Yeah.
1617
01:22:32,828 --> 01:22:36,373
Today, being in the public eye,
social media is so common,
1618
01:22:36,373 --> 01:22:38,750
no matter what you do,
it's, like, seen right away,
1619
01:22:38,750 --> 01:22:40,836
and everyone has
something to say about it.
1620
01:22:40,836 --> 01:22:44,089
When you were going through it
at such a young age, what--
1621
01:22:44,089 --> 01:22:46,425
how did you feel about it
and how'd you deal with it?
1622
01:22:46,425 --> 01:22:49,845
I can't imagine growing up
with TikTok at your age.
1623
01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:54,641
There's so much pressure
to make things go viral
1624
01:22:54,641 --> 01:22:56,685
and to look a certain way.
1625
01:22:56,685 --> 01:22:58,729
It's just, it's really tough.
1626
01:23:05,235 --> 01:23:08,280
Can you tell me what
your favorite thing is to watch on TV?
1627
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:09,656
YouTube.
1628
01:23:09,656 --> 01:23:10,866
Do you watch TV?
1629
01:23:10,866 --> 01:23:13,660
I just watch YouTube shows.
1630
01:23:13,660 --> 01:23:17,372
I watch YouTube,
and I make TikTok videos for my friends,
1631
01:23:17,372 --> 01:23:21,126
like the dances that people do.
Sometimes I do that on TikTok.
1632
01:23:21,126 --> 01:23:23,962
My favorite thing to watch is YouTube.
1633
01:23:23,962 --> 01:23:26,507
- Charli D'Amelio.
- MrBeast.
1634
01:23:26,507 --> 01:23:29,426
- YouTube.
- Minecraft videos.
1635
01:23:29,426 --> 01:23:31,512
I like watching, like, them...
1636
01:23:32,638 --> 01:23:35,682
showing me what they got at Sephora
1637
01:23:35,682 --> 01:23:37,476
or, like, doing-- get--
1638
01:23:37,476 --> 01:23:39,978
like, showing their morning routine
or night routine.
1639
01:23:39,978 --> 01:23:42,940
Can I say somebody who's a kid?
1640
01:23:42,940 --> 01:23:45,567
Yes, better if they're a kid.
- Ryan.
1641
01:23:45,567 --> 01:23:50,280
He has his own show, his own video game,
and his own toys.
1642
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,574
I don't know if he's really that famous
1643
01:23:52,574 --> 01:23:55,827
or companies just like, all--
um, making toys
1644
01:23:55,827 --> 01:23:57,538
and video games about him.
1645
01:23:57,538 --> 01:23:59,623
Still, that's pretty famous.
1646
01:23:59,623 --> 01:24:02,125
That's him, Ryan of Ryan's World.
1647
01:24:02,125 --> 01:24:06,171
Ryan is like the Elvis
for anyone under the age of 10.
1648
01:24:06,171 --> 01:24:09,383
He blew up on YouTube
by playing with toys.
1649
01:24:09,383 --> 01:24:11,218
He's been on the internet since he was 3.
1650
01:24:11,218 --> 01:24:12,886
Okay, let's go!
1651
01:24:12,886 --> 01:24:16,139
He makes tens of millions
of dollars in his licensing deals.
1652
01:24:16,139 --> 01:24:18,892
He's now one of the top-paid YouTubers
on the entire planet.
1653
01:24:18,892 --> 01:24:21,937
Okay, Ryan, on a scale of one
through five, what do you think about
1654
01:24:21,937 --> 01:24:27,025
the Hot Wheels Color Shifters
Color Splash Science Lab?
1655
01:24:27,860 --> 01:24:28,861
Five!
1656
01:24:28,861 --> 01:24:31,905
This is a massive
multi-billion-dollar industry.
1657
01:24:31,905 --> 01:24:35,367
There's over 50 million
content creators worldwide.
1658
01:24:35,367 --> 01:24:37,703
Hello, everyone.
Welcome back to our channel.
1659
01:24:37,703 --> 01:24:39,997
According to Goldman Sachs,
the content creator industry
1660
01:24:39,997 --> 01:24:42,749
is set to be worth a half
a trillion dollars in the next two years.
1661
01:24:42,749 --> 01:24:45,169
It dwarfs the traditional
entertainment industry.
1662
01:24:45,919 --> 01:24:48,005
Bye!
1663
01:24:48,005 --> 01:24:50,966
Kids are making so much money
in an unregulated space.
1664
01:24:50,966 --> 01:24:54,094
Yeah! It worries me
because there's no Coogan Law for it.
1665
01:24:54,094 --> 01:24:57,681
You know, we had protections put in place
when I was a child actor
1666
01:24:57,681 --> 01:25:01,393
that said a percentage of my money
is going to be returned to me,
1667
01:25:01,393 --> 01:25:04,771
or given to me at 18.
1668
01:25:04,771 --> 01:25:07,941
Therefore, I had, like, a system in place
1669
01:25:07,941 --> 01:25:11,320
that guaranteed me to have
some sort of financial gain
1670
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,739
when I was of legal age.
1671
01:25:13,739 --> 01:25:19,995
And to hear that these kids
are making tens of millions of dollars,
1672
01:25:19,995 --> 01:25:22,247
and there's no Coogan Account for that,
1673
01:25:22,247 --> 01:25:26,126
it just scares me because I'm like,
who's controlling that money,
1674
01:25:26,126 --> 01:25:27,711
and where is it going?
1675
01:25:28,962 --> 01:25:30,422
This is an entirely new industry
1676
01:25:30,422 --> 01:25:33,050
that's developed really
in the past decade.
1677
01:25:33,050 --> 01:25:36,220
The real money has only come
in the past five to seven years.
1678
01:25:36,220 --> 01:25:37,304
Wow, it's nice!
1679
01:25:37,304 --> 01:25:39,139
And there are absolutely zero safeguards
1680
01:25:39,139 --> 01:25:42,059
or legal protections for children
working in this industry.
1681
01:25:42,059 --> 01:25:43,852
Hi, Chris?
- Hi, Demi!
1682
01:25:43,852 --> 01:25:45,771
Hi, how's it going?
- It's going well. Thank you.
1683
01:25:45,771 --> 01:25:48,148
It's so nice to meet you.
So nice to meet you, too.
1684
01:25:48,148 --> 01:25:50,901
Tell me a little bit about
what you're doing with this legislation.
1685
01:25:50,901 --> 01:25:53,862
I was doing this research
about family influencers,
1686
01:25:53,862 --> 01:25:57,741
and I was seeing that a lot of parents
are monetizing their children online,
1687
01:25:57,741 --> 01:26:01,203
and it doesn't seem like the children
are able to opt out of this.
1688
01:26:01,203 --> 01:26:03,705
It is a lot harder when
your parents are your bosses
1689
01:26:03,705 --> 01:26:05,541
and the set is your house.
1690
01:26:06,959 --> 01:26:09,169
It feels like maybe a child
1691
01:26:09,169 --> 01:26:11,547
doesn't know when to turn it off.
Right.
1692
01:26:11,547 --> 01:26:14,675
Because they have to be on all the time,
and that can be really damaging.
1693
01:26:14,675 --> 01:26:17,219
Right, I have an idea
for a new policy concept,
1694
01:26:17,219 --> 01:26:20,889
and I went to Washington
State legislature.
1695
01:26:20,889 --> 01:26:23,100
Hello, Representative Reeves.
1696
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,893
A lot of cold calling, cold emailing.
1697
01:26:24,893 --> 01:26:27,604
I had a phone script,
I had an email script.
1698
01:26:27,604 --> 01:26:31,567
Eventually, connected with
Representative Kristine Reeves.
1699
01:26:31,567 --> 01:26:34,278
I wanted to talk to you
about this bill that you're passing,
1700
01:26:34,278 --> 01:26:37,239
and what was it that made
you wanna get involved?
1701
01:26:37,239 --> 01:26:40,075
When I got
into politics, my kids were 2 and 4,
1702
01:26:40,075 --> 01:26:42,286
and I was walking down
the hall in my house,
1703
01:26:42,286 --> 01:26:45,205
and I hear my daughter
giggling in the mirror going,
1704
01:26:45,205 --> 01:26:48,625
"Like and subscribe!"
And I just thought, "What on earth?
1705
01:26:48,625 --> 01:26:50,460
- Where did she hear that?"
- Right.
1706
01:26:50,460 --> 01:26:53,463
Here my 7-year-old daughter's
got my makeup brushes out,
1707
01:26:53,463 --> 01:26:55,883
doing a makeup tutorial
in the bathroom mirror,
1708
01:26:55,883 --> 01:26:58,927
and I think it just clicked
very quickly for me.
1709
01:26:58,927 --> 01:27:01,722
The internet is kind of this unregulated
1710
01:27:01,722 --> 01:27:04,266
kind of wild, wild West,
and if, if not us,
1711
01:27:04,266 --> 01:27:06,768
if not parents who are
paying attention to this,
1712
01:27:06,768 --> 01:27:07,895
who's gonna take care of it?
1713
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,566
When I was a child actor,
I had a Coogan Account.
1714
01:27:12,566 --> 01:27:16,111
Mm-hmm.
- Um, which puts money into a reserve
1715
01:27:16,111 --> 01:27:19,031
so that you can get it
whenever you turn 18.
1716
01:27:19,031 --> 01:27:20,574
Well, and that's what
this bill does, right?
1717
01:27:20,574 --> 01:27:24,578
It proposes that we would
create accounts from folks
1718
01:27:24,578 --> 01:27:28,415
who are basically monetizing
their children on social media
1719
01:27:28,415 --> 01:27:30,959
to ensure that those kids
have the opportunity
1720
01:27:30,959 --> 01:27:33,086
to have some compensation.
1721
01:27:33,086 --> 01:27:35,797
The bill also focuses on ensuring
1722
01:27:35,797 --> 01:27:38,926
that the kids have the opportunity
to go to these platforms
1723
01:27:38,926 --> 01:27:41,220
and to request that their
likeness be taken down,
1724
01:27:41,220 --> 01:27:43,430
to be able to kind of
take that power back.
1725
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:46,183
You know, there have
to be children out there
1726
01:27:46,183 --> 01:27:48,644
who want to make YouTube videos.
1727
01:27:48,644 --> 01:27:50,979
- Just for fun.
- Yeah, my daughter, apparently.
1728
01:27:50,979 --> 01:27:52,648
In the bathroom.
Like your daughter.
1729
01:27:52,648 --> 01:27:57,402
And so it's not about stopping kids
that want to be online.
1730
01:27:57,402 --> 01:27:59,196
It's just about protecting them.
1731
01:27:59,196 --> 01:28:00,948
Yeah.
1732
01:28:00,948 --> 01:28:02,950
Thank you so much. You're amazing.
1733
01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:06,078
Oh, well, it's Chris
is actually who's amazing.
1734
01:28:06,078 --> 01:28:08,413
Like, they, they did a lot of the homework
and the research
1735
01:28:08,413 --> 01:28:09,831
- to, like, make this all...
- Yeah.
1736
01:28:09,831 --> 01:28:11,208
...kind of come to fruition.
1737
01:28:11,208 --> 01:28:14,169
And so, getting the opportunity
to have somebody so young
1738
01:28:14,169 --> 01:28:17,256
just believe in government
the way that I do, that, you know--
1739
01:28:17,256 --> 01:28:19,550
'cause I fundamentally believe
government can be a force for good.
1740
01:28:20,384 --> 01:28:23,512
House Bill 1627 is a bill to protect kids
1741
01:28:23,512 --> 01:28:26,723
who are monetized on family
social media accounts.
1742
01:28:26,723 --> 01:28:29,977
Taking steps to safeguard
a child influencer's earnings
1743
01:28:29,977 --> 01:28:33,522
and privacy is a crucial step
in minimizing the harm
1744
01:28:33,522 --> 01:28:36,525
that hundreds of thousands of children
1745
01:28:36,525 --> 01:28:39,403
have already experienced
across traditional
1746
01:28:39,403 --> 01:28:42,155
and digital media,
myself being one of them.
1747
01:28:42,155 --> 01:28:44,449
First-of-its-kind law
takes effect in Illinois.
1748
01:28:44,449 --> 01:28:46,702
SB 764 applies
the Coogan Act to modern performers.
1749
01:28:46,702 --> 01:28:48,453
34 to 0, the measure passes.
1750
01:28:52,124 --> 01:28:53,292
I can't put my fame away.
1751
01:28:53,292 --> 01:28:55,919
Like, I can't just say
"I don't wanna be famous,"
1752
01:28:55,919 --> 01:28:58,422
and that can be a little isolating.
1753
01:28:59,464 --> 01:29:02,467
But, I got a second chance at life,
1754
01:29:02,467 --> 01:29:06,471
and because of that,
I appreciate every day that I have.
1755
01:29:07,181 --> 01:29:10,767
You know, I feel like I have a little bit
more permission to celebrate the wins.
1756
01:29:13,228 --> 01:29:15,022
Alright, hello, everybody!
1757
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:19,026
Demi!
1758
01:29:24,656 --> 01:29:28,619
I mean,
you know the road better than most
1759
01:29:28,619 --> 01:29:31,455
of like how... I'm like...
1760
01:29:31,455 --> 01:29:34,875
"How did we even get here?
Are we gonna be able to stay here?"
1761
01:29:34,875 --> 01:29:38,128
I always think
it's getting creative [indistinct].
1762
01:29:38,128 --> 01:29:41,006
Do you still have that, like--
Yes, of course.
1763
01:29:41,006 --> 01:29:44,092
Okay, good. Oh, good!
That makes me feel so not alone.
1764
01:29:44,092 --> 01:29:46,470
And it's like, I'm like, "Be present.
1765
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:49,139
Don't be afraid of it disappearing."
Yeah. Yeah.
1766
01:29:49,139 --> 01:29:50,516
When will we feel stable?
1767
01:29:50,516 --> 01:29:53,602
I don't know, but we're gonna keep moving.
1768
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,620
do you think stories
help you understand yourself?
1769
01:30:11,620 --> 01:30:12,704
Yeah.
1770
01:30:12,704 --> 01:30:16,959
It's fun to write and draw
and do all those stuff.
1771
01:30:16,959 --> 01:30:19,503
I've actually made
a story about me before.
1772
01:30:19,503 --> 01:30:21,630
I feel like if I don't, like,
use my imagination
1773
01:30:21,630 --> 01:30:22,714
and express myself,
1774
01:30:22,714 --> 01:30:24,299
it kind of just is like...
1775
01:30:25,217 --> 01:30:27,261
like, I don't really know
if there's, like, a word for it,
1776
01:30:27,261 --> 01:30:30,597
but, like, when you feel like
you're not really, like,
1777
01:30:30,597 --> 01:30:31,807
living, I guess?
1778
01:30:31,807 --> 01:30:34,893
What is the hardest thing
about being a kid?
1779
01:30:37,145 --> 01:30:39,231
Probably when, like,
1780
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:42,401
you feel misunderstood.
1781
01:30:43,235 --> 01:30:47,739
Like, when nobody knows what
you're talking about but you.
1782
01:30:48,699 --> 01:30:51,076
I feel that way a lot.
1783
01:30:51,076 --> 01:30:53,036
And so, what do you do?
1784
01:30:54,371 --> 01:30:56,915
Sometimes, I write down
a song in my notebook.
1785
01:30:58,500 --> 01:31:00,043
There's always been an intensity
1786
01:31:00,043 --> 01:31:03,213
that I've felt since I was a child
1787
01:31:03,213 --> 01:31:06,675
and just never wanted to have a diary
1788
01:31:06,675 --> 01:31:08,886
because you never know
who's gonna find it one day.
1789
01:31:10,512 --> 01:31:13,807
I always turn to music as a safe way
1790
01:31:13,807 --> 01:31:16,059
for me to feel my emotions,
1791
01:31:16,059 --> 01:31:18,645
and it saved me a lot of times.
1792
01:31:48,634 --> 01:31:49,885
Okay!
1793
01:31:53,597 --> 01:31:55,807
I'm back!
1794
01:32:04,191 --> 01:32:06,985
Building that connection to music again
is the most important thing
1795
01:32:06,985 --> 01:32:10,614
- I can do for myself as an artist.
- ♪ Whoa... ♪
1796
01:32:14,701 --> 01:32:17,120
♪ It's all gonna happen ♪
1797
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,706
♪ But not how you think ♪
1798
01:32:20,582 --> 01:32:24,044
So, it's just like lifting
that melody a little bit.
1799
01:32:26,755 --> 01:32:30,259
I think the second pre-chorus you should
extend until it's full length, though.
1800
01:32:30,259 --> 01:32:33,136
Okay.
- I like a short first pre,
1801
01:32:33,136 --> 01:32:36,223
but it'd be nice to go what you'd like...
1802
01:32:36,223 --> 01:32:38,016
♪ Da da da, da da da ♪
1803
01:32:38,016 --> 01:32:41,895
Oh, that's beautiful! I love that.
1804
01:32:41,895 --> 01:32:44,773
♪ We'll be okay, whoa ♪
♪ We'll be okay ♪
1805
01:32:47,025 --> 01:32:50,988
♪ Wide eyes, wild heart ♪
1806
01:32:50,988 --> 01:32:53,282
♪ Blowing out candles ♪
1807
01:32:53,282 --> 01:32:55,242
♪ Blowing out candles ♪
♪ Wishing on stars ♪
1808
01:32:55,242 --> 01:32:56,910
♪ Wishing on stars ♪
♪ Stars ♪
1809
01:32:56,910 --> 01:32:59,913
- ♪ One day ♪
- Yeah, and then so you're gonna have to...
1810
01:32:59,913 --> 01:33:02,374
♪ You'll bring ♪
1811
01:33:02,374 --> 01:33:07,171
♪ It's all gonna happen,
but not how you think... ♪
1812
01:33:08,714 --> 01:33:11,008
If you had to do everything
from the very start
1813
01:33:11,008 --> 01:33:13,760
all over again, is it worth it?
1814
01:33:14,344 --> 01:33:17,139
I try to live by the philosophy
of never having regrets.
1815
01:33:17,139 --> 01:33:18,223
Mm-hmm.
1816
01:33:18,223 --> 01:33:22,227
And I've made some really
questionable choices in my life,
1817
01:33:22,227 --> 01:33:25,189
but I wouldn't end up
where I am in this moment
1818
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:28,358
right now today
had I not made all the choices
1819
01:33:28,358 --> 01:33:31,695
that I made in my life
leading up to this point.
1820
01:33:31,695 --> 01:33:34,114
Oh, there we go!
Wait, do one more.
1821
01:33:34,114 --> 01:33:36,074
- Do your iconic pose!
- Wait, what's my iconic pose?
1822
01:33:36,074 --> 01:33:38,577
Okay, okay, ready?
1823
01:33:38,577 --> 01:33:41,830
Alright.
Yes!
1824
01:33:41,830 --> 01:33:44,708
♪ Wide eyes ♪
1825
01:33:44,708 --> 01:33:47,336
♪ Wild heart ♪
1826
01:33:47,336 --> 01:33:49,838
♪ Blowing out candles ♪
1827
01:33:49,838 --> 01:33:52,591
♪ Wishing on stars ♪
1828
01:33:52,591 --> 01:33:57,804
♪ One day, you'll blink ♪
1829
01:33:57,804 --> 01:33:59,973
♪ It's all gonna happen ♪
1830
01:33:59,973 --> 01:34:02,142
♪ But not how you can think ♪
You look so beautiful!
1831
01:34:02,142 --> 01:34:06,396
♪ Can't stop you, don't want to ♪
1832
01:34:06,396 --> 01:34:08,398
♪ Here's what I wish I knew ♪
1833
01:34:08,398 --> 01:34:12,277
When I do throw that
flare out into the sky,
1834
01:34:12,277 --> 01:34:14,154
that flare attracts others.
1835
01:34:14,154 --> 01:34:18,116
It's that connection where they understand
and know where I was coming from.
1836
01:34:18,116 --> 01:34:20,911
Here's to growth, to the amazing memories
1837
01:34:20,911 --> 01:34:23,080
that we've made this year!
1838
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,083
Ten, nine, eight, seven, six,
1839
01:34:26,083 --> 01:34:30,254
five, four, three, two,
1840
01:34:30,254 --> 01:34:33,173
one. Happy New Year!
1841
01:34:33,173 --> 01:34:38,595
♪ The sharks in the water
will teach you to swim ♪
1842
01:34:39,012 --> 01:34:43,684
♪ The thorns on the roses
will thicken your skin ♪
1843
01:34:44,351 --> 01:34:49,690
♪ People might hurt you
and break promises ♪
1844
01:34:50,232 --> 01:34:53,610
♪ But darling, I promise you this ♪
1845
01:34:53,610 --> 01:34:57,406
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1846
01:34:58,824 --> 01:35:02,536
♪ You'll okay, kid ♪
1847
01:35:04,079 --> 01:35:06,874
♪ You'll be okay ♪
1848
01:35:14,631 --> 01:35:17,634
♪ Slow down, deep breath ♪
1849
01:35:17,634 --> 01:35:22,890
♪ Don't let the monsters
scare you to death ♪
1850
01:35:22,890 --> 01:35:27,978
♪ They'll try to tear you apart ♪
1851
01:35:27,978 --> 01:35:33,275
♪ But know that you're perfect
the way that you are ♪
1852
01:35:33,275 --> 01:35:36,278
♪ I know you can't see it now ♪
1853
01:35:36,278 --> 01:35:39,781
♪ But someday, it all works out ♪
1854
01:35:41,033 --> 01:35:46,246
♪ The sharks in the water
will teach you to swim ♪
1855
01:35:46,246 --> 01:35:52,002
♪ The thorns on the roses
will thicken your skin ♪
1856
01:35:52,002 --> 01:35:57,174
♪ People might hurt you
and break promises ♪
1857
01:35:57,174 --> 01:36:01,386
♪ But, darling, I promise you this ♪
1858
01:36:01,386 --> 01:36:04,515
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1859
01:36:06,558 --> 01:36:10,562
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1860
01:36:11,313 --> 01:36:15,609
♪ You'll make it like I did ♪
1861
01:36:17,277 --> 01:36:21,073
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1862
01:36:22,616 --> 01:36:26,578
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1863
01:36:27,829 --> 01:36:32,125
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1864
01:36:33,168 --> 01:36:36,880
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1865
01:36:38,382 --> 01:36:42,261
♪ You'll be okay, kid ♪
1866
01:36:43,887 --> 01:36:46,890
♪ You'll be okay ♪