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I was her only daughter.

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Just imagine, I was always…
everything, right? I was her everything.

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I was her everything and she was mine.

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She was demanding, but very warm.

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She really spoiled me.

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She gave me everything, right?
Her love, mainly.

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I was very happy to have her as my mom.

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She was the most indulgent grandmother
that you can imagine.

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She took them out
and traveled with them everywhere.

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A week before an event
that changed my life,

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something amazing and magical happened.

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It was as if my mom could tell
what was going to happen

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because she gave me
even more love than she ever had before.

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At around 1:00 or 1:30,

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the phone rang

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and I saw that it was my mom's number.

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I froze and didn't want to pick up,
you know?

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Román, my partner, said,

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"Answer the phone.
Why aren't you answering?"

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I grabbed the phone.

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"Yes, Mom, what's up? How are you?"

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And I heard the voice of my nephew,
who lived here.

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"Vero, your mom died."

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Someone had strangled her with a cable.

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Despite the evidence
that the police has,

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seniors are still being murdered.

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FEDERAL DISTRICT, MEXICO
SERIAL KILLER

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The killer is a tall,

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fair-skinned, and has a muscular build.

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Between 1998 and 2005,

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at least 49 cases
have been recorded in Mexico City.

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The "Mataviejitas" case has become

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the biggest challenge
for the Federal District police squad.

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THE LADY OF SILENCE:
THE MATAVIEJITAS MURDERS

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My mom was applying
for her seniors' benefits ID card.

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My cousin mentioned,

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"Yes, a social worker came
and said that she would apply for her."

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She didn't ask for ID or anything.

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She took off
and left her at my mom's house.

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And when Román came to see her,

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she was very bloated
and her skin was blue, in fact.

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OCTOBER 28, 2003

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OLD LADY IS STRANGLED

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The investigation began.

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There were helicopters
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I mean, it was shocking.

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Riot policemen and others came here.

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They were looking everywhere for clues.

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I mean, we had no idea what was going on.

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I noticed a number
next to my mother's name.

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So I started asking a police officer,

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"Why do you have a board…?"

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"My mom is number six. Why?"

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"Because this could be
the work of a serial killer."

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I was astonished.

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I have always liked investigative work.

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Crime, the study of crime,
and its social impact.

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I have a close friendship

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with the forensic doctor assigned
to the Benito Juárez borough back then.

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Each time they brought in a body,

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I was curious to come
and investigate the causes of death

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because I have a diploma
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

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In September 2003,
I noticed there was a body.

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And he said, "It is an elderly lady."

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She had been strangled to death.

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The cord was still
wrapped around her neck.

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One week later, we found another body,

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that of an elderly person

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who had died in the same manner,
asphyxiated due to strangulation.

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We started examining the victim's wounds,

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and the type of knot that was used,

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and we thought it was very odd
because it was very similar.

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Two weeks later, we received

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the body of another elderly person.

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Same thing.

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We thought it was too odd
and too frequent.

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And about one month later,
there was another homicide.

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This time it was in Coyoacán,
rather than Benito Juárez,

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with the exact same characteristics.

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That's when I first thought,

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"This is a serial killer."

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In 2003, we weren't sure yet
if it was a serial killer,

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because we didn't have serial killers
in our country.

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They didn't really take me seriously.

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"No, don't watch so many TV shows."

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"You're exaggerating."

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The last serial killer we had,
who was actually a spree killer,

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was Goyo Cárdenas back in 1942.

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He had killed four housekeepers

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which is why
he was considered a serial killer.

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But from 1942 until 2003,

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the fact that nothing like this
had happened in our country

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presented us with a big challenge.

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I followed the news.

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And I started keeping notes.

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I started to work backward.

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The earliest I got

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was 1996, 1997,

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which is when I found
the first violent robbery

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against an elderly person

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in which the victim was strangled.

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SERIAL KILLING OF OLD WOMEN

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MURDERER OF NINE OLD LADIES
IS BEING TRACKED

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SERIAL KILLER IS THREATENING
FEDERAL DISTRICT

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We started telling each other

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that something was going on,

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and asking the questions
that forced the police

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to acknowledge that this was happening.

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Because they obviously didn't want
to make it public.

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We slowly realized

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that this was a serial killer.

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Maybe I denied it at one point,

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but it must have been at the beginning.

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We also didn't want to spark an outrage,

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or appear in sensationalist headlines.

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We tried to be as discreet as possible.

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There was no link

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between the victim and the murderer.

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They weren't family members,
or friends, or enemies, or neighbors.

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There was no real motive
other than robbery.

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The wave
of senior killings in the Federal District

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continues unabated.

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In the eyes of the people,

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the District Attorney's Office
of the Federal District

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is not doing anything.

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After fierce resistance,

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the city government had to acknowledge
that there was actually a serial killer,

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and the District Attorney's Office
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formed a special group
for finding and locating them.

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-Prickly pears, ten pesos per bag.
-What are you taking?

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We were ready because
we had a great team

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of specialists and experts

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in crime scene reconstruction,

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crime scene preservation.

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Of course not. Who would be ready?

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So we got ready along the way.

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And what happened?
The victim's family members

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cleaned the crime scene,
washed, picked up everything.

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And when you got there, you'd say,

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"Why did you clean everything?
There's no way we'll find fingerprints."

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"We won't be able
to document with photos."

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They'd say,
"No, we're holding a vigil for Grandma."

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I mean, I get it.

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And who could blame them?

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Police in Milwaukee said today

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accused serial killer, Jeffrey Dahmer,

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has now confessed to 17 killings.

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We started studying

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serial killer cases,

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events in other countries.

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Dahmer has confessed to police

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that he drugged,
strangled and mutilated 11 men.

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New charges include
the murder of a 14-year-old boy.

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…John Wayne Gacy,
and coined the term "serial killer."

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Richard Ramirez was caught
and brought to justice.

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Ted Bundy is a law school dropout
convicted of killing three young women,

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and suspected of killing
literally dozens of others.

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The first female serial killer
ever brought to trial in this country.

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Wuornos admitted to killing seven men,
all, she said, in self-defense.

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The jury in the case recommended
that Aileen Wuornos

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get the electric chair.

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We asked for help from abroad,

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from people who have investigated
these types of cases for years.

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Mainly the French,

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who had dealt
with the Monster of Montmartre.

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Thierry Paulin could be the worst murderer

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in the history
of the French justice system.

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Eleven old ladies killed,
always with the same method.

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He followed the victims to their homes,

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he tortured them until they told him
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and then he strangled them to death.

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Death sentence!

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He caused great unease in Paris.

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The old lady killer

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that was arrested yesterday
committed at least 21 murders.

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Thanks to fingerprints and other evidence,

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Thierry Paulin, 24, was identified.

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It's the result of three years of work.

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TOULON, FRANCE

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In serial cases like these,

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there is no link
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So you can work as much as you want

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around the victim,

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around their personal environment,
but you won't find anything

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because the encounter with the murderer
is isolated and incidental.

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That's why these investigations
are so hard.

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And perhaps
everybody was aware at that time

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of how difficult it was
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to work in these situations.

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My first contact with the Mexican police

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was when I came to teach the course.

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COURSE ON SERIAL KILLINGS
IS BROUGHT FROM ABROAD

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It was a homicide investigation course.

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They already had certain techniques

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for investigating serial killers.

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…participation in the course.

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Each country has
its own type of criminality.

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Sometimes,
there were even some misunderstandings

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because they couldn't understand
our methods and they would say,

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"This cannot be done in Mexico
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And I understood very well

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because we do not work the same way.

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Between signs,
a bit of English, and a bit of French,

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we took the course,

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and I think I did learn a lot
from those techniques.

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We created the profile

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based on the descriptions
provided by the witnesses.

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It was a tall person.

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Between 45 and 48 years old.

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Broad back, big hands.

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Strong and burly.

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Short hair.

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Dressed as a nurse.

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One of the killer's stratagems

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was to pretend to be someone
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through the public policy program,
through the welfare program,

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elderly persons.

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It was provided as financial support.

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Andrés Manuel López Obrador,
Mexico City's Governor, had this idea,

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which he considered a way

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to safeguard the dignity
of elderly people.

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Acts of support continue

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for seniors.

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352,000 respectable seniors

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are receiving this benefit.

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A very original program, very important.

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So if a person showed up

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pretending to be someone
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get this card to receive this benefit,

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that person would be welcome.

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The information that we had
started to match.

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However, there were some variations.

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No two witnesses
describe a person the same way.

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The main lines of investigation
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were finding nurses,

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healthcare workers.

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And we started noticing
the modus operandi

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of the perpetrator.

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Today, a nurse that works at the ISSSTE

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was detained.

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Matilde Sánchez Gallegos

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was a good coworker who we all liked.

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MATILDE SÁNCHEZ
WAS INTERROGATED FOR MORE THAN 10 HOURS

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Back then, I used to represent

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these workers at the ten ISSSTE clinics.

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Well, on January 9, 2004,

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my coworkers called me on the phone

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to tell me that Matilde

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had basically been forced

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to get into a patrol car
and was driven away.

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The Metro newspaper
published on its front page

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one of the first composite sketches
of the "Mataviejitas".

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A pair of beat cops
who'd bought the newspaper that day,

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while skimming through the newspaper,

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noticed there was a person at a bank

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with the physical features
of the composite sketch.

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The nurse was detained at a bank branch

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in the Coyoacán borough.

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When she saw the police,
she started acting suspiciously,

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so the police decided to detain her.

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We requested information about Matilde.

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They said that she wasn't there,
that they didn't know what I meant.

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Suddenly, they came out running

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with a person,
covering her with some jackets,

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and I saw
that she was wearing white shoes.

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I immediately thought it was Matilde.

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So, I yelled,
"Matilde! Don't take Matilde!"

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The news started showing

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that the "Mataviejitas" had been found.

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And when I saw the composite sketch again,

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it resembled my coworker more and more.

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I couldn't believe it, but the features

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actually fully matched.

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I told my coworkers, "You know what?"

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"What will happen
is that we'll have a scapegoat

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and she will be sent to prison."

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She was put in a room
with a one-way mirror

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to be identified by witnesses
of some of the cases.

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Obviously, they didn't recognize her.

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00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:36,996
We decided to block Tlalpan Avenue

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as a way to pressure them
to release Matilde.

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We said that once
she was released into our care,

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we would leave.

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They had to release her 15 hours later

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without any charges.

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We had some fingerprints
and compared them to hers,

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and they didn't match at all.

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00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:09,737
She was released

292
00:17:09,820 --> 00:17:11,905
and we're very sorry for what happened

293
00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:15,242
because these things
should not happen, right?

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00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:24,001
The FBI says

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that serial killers have different phases.

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The first is the selection phase.

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Observing and stalking
their potential victim.

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Choosing their victim.

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We knew that she studied the person

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and made sure that the person was alone.

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The next was the seduction phase.

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That was important.

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The skill
that would grant her access to the home.

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It was difficult.

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00:18:19,556 --> 00:18:22,392
Back then, especially due to
the lack of public safety

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nobody agreed to it.

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So, the killer displayed an ability
to interact with seniors.

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"Hey, I work for the City Government."

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"I provide support to seniors.
What do you need?"

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"Let me help you."

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"We'll give you a special card
because I see that you live by yourself."

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"Yes, come in. Let me make you some tea."

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She sat down to have some tea.
The seduction phase.

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Once she realized
that her victim would be her victim,

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she moved on to the execution phase.

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Then, she strangled.

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In a very similar way in all cases.

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With a scarf

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or with one if the old lady's items.

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00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:17,698
It could be
the cord of a curtain rod.

321
00:19:17,781 --> 00:19:21,493
It could be a robe sash.

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00:19:21,577 --> 00:19:25,622
It could be the cable
of an old tape recorder.

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00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:31,879
And then there was
a "take a souvenir" phase.

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She would take something
that reminded her of that victim.

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PRAYER TO ST. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL

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00:20:07,915 --> 00:20:11,043
And it creates outrage within the society.

327
00:20:11,126 --> 00:20:12,461
I hope they solve it soon.

328
00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:15,756
It was my grandma, but I don't want it
to happen to anybody's grandma.

329
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,926
They're not taking care of it
as they should.

330
00:20:19,009 --> 00:20:21,136
The authorities aren't doing anything.

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00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:24,431
Years ago,
nobody paid attention to the elderly.

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00:20:25,349 --> 00:20:29,061
And now, they want to protect us
from murderers running amok.

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00:20:29,728 --> 00:20:33,232
The District Attorney's Office
acknowledged that the number of murders

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00:20:33,315 --> 00:20:36,652
of seniors increased
from 12 to 14 this year.

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00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,863
When you turned on the TV
or opened the newspaper,

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00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:42,908
the first thing you saw
was news about the "Mataviejitas."

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00:20:42,991 --> 00:20:44,284
"Mataviejitas."

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00:20:44,368 --> 00:20:46,161
OLD LADY STRANGLED

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00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:47,746
There wasn't a single place

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00:20:47,829 --> 00:20:49,748
where the case wasn't being discussed.

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00:20:50,499 --> 00:20:52,334
ANOTHER OLD LADY IS KILLED,
IN SANTA MARÍA

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00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:54,086
SERIAL HOMICIDES

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00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,213
18 SENIORS KILLED IN A YEAR

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00:20:56,296 --> 00:20:57,881
ONE SINGLE PERSON KILLED 20 OLD LADIES

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00:20:57,965 --> 00:21:04,263
In every family, everybody
has to go to work, go to school.

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00:21:04,346 --> 00:21:07,140
And seniors

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00:21:07,224 --> 00:21:09,476
stay home, alone.

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00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:13,897
And then they become potential victims

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00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:16,942
of someone
who might want to take advantage of that.

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00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:20,362
Some precautions are put into place,
even within families,

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00:21:20,445 --> 00:21:23,699
"Don't open the door to anybody.
Don't talk to anybody."

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00:21:23,782 --> 00:21:27,327
If you see a senior with someone else,

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00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:31,707
call the agency's emergency numbers
as soon as possible.

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00:21:31,790 --> 00:21:33,083
What we are doing

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00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:36,545
is telling people to be cautious.

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00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:38,338
To be wary.

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00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:39,965
To be alert.

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00:21:40,048 --> 00:21:44,261
To not be deceived the way other seniors
were, unfortunately, deceived.

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00:21:45,595 --> 00:21:50,309
MARÍA DE LUZ GONZÁLEZ ANAYA
64 YEARS OLD

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00:22:04,072 --> 00:22:08,327
They started realizing
that all the female victims

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00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:10,579
were women who lived by themselves.

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00:22:10,662 --> 00:22:12,664
They said that their lives were gloomy

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00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,208
and filled with nostalgia.

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00:22:15,292 --> 00:22:19,004
And this defines
the serial killer profile,

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00:22:19,087 --> 00:22:21,590
and the prevention strategy
for the serial killer.

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00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:23,508
Knowing there's a man on the loose

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00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:27,095
who is murdering seniors

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00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:28,347
and walking alone

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00:22:28,972 --> 00:22:32,642
on these streets,
like this woman walking here, vulnerable.

370
00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:35,020
Which precautions do you take?
Do you look around?

371
00:22:35,103 --> 00:22:36,563
I turn around and I watch.

372
00:22:36,646 --> 00:22:38,273
If I see someone

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00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:40,776
who is following me,

374
00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:44,738
I cross over there
and I turn around discreetly to see

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00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:46,823
if they're still following me.

376
00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:49,701
Do you know what this person looks like?

377
00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:53,163
No, because
I am actually scared of everybody.

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00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:56,875
There was a specific statement

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00:22:56,958 --> 00:22:59,419
made by District Attorney Bernardo Bátiz

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00:22:59,503 --> 00:23:02,005
that defined the parameters
of the investigation.

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00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:05,342
Old habits and standards of behavior

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00:23:05,425 --> 00:23:10,138
regarding respect towards the elderly,
children and women start disappearing

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00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:14,017
and the number
of homicides indeed increases.

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00:23:14,935 --> 00:23:19,856
Bátiz says that before
he finishes his term, he has to find

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00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:22,234
the "Mataviejitas" serial killer

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00:23:22,317 --> 00:23:25,237
because they are attacking
a sector of the population

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00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,657
that nobody attacked before,
not even criminals.

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00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:34,413
Sara García,

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00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:38,250
one of the most important actresses
of the Mexican Golden Era,

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00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:41,753
and who, as time went by,
became Mexico's grandma,

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00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:45,590
played the part,
in her movie The Three Garcías,

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00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:47,926
of a selfless grandma

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00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:49,803
that scolds her grandsons,

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00:23:49,886 --> 00:23:54,391
classic macho men who have respect
for nobody, except their grandma.

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00:23:57,394 --> 00:24:00,021
Bernardo Bátiz's statement was, literally,

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00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:03,984
like a scene from The Three Garcías.

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00:24:04,067 --> 00:24:07,279
There is
a general sense of respect

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00:24:07,362 --> 00:24:12,367
towards seniors, especially older ladies.

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00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:16,663
Everybody calls them "grandma,"
even if they are not their grandmas.

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00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,907
In Mexican culture, grandmothers

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00:24:51,990 --> 00:24:54,034
represent the ideal woman.

402
00:24:54,117 --> 00:24:57,412
A selfless mom
that makes sacrifices for her family.

403
00:24:57,996 --> 00:25:00,207
That's why it was preposterous

404
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:03,335
that Mexican grandmas were getting killed.

405
00:25:14,804 --> 00:25:16,681
I didn't want to go
inside that house.

406
00:25:18,558 --> 00:25:20,602
We felt that, any minute,

407
00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:23,855
something awful would happen again.

408
00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:26,525
Our nerves were shot.

409
00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:34,991
We had to ask the police to come with us,

410
00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:40,539
to take every strand of hair,
every piece of garbage.

411
00:25:40,622 --> 00:25:43,458
I found the glass
that was in the living room,

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00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,043
I put it in a bag.

413
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:50,340
Turns out, it had the fingerprint
of the person who hurt my mom.

414
00:25:51,258 --> 00:25:52,634
That was crucial.

415
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,678
A FINGERPRINT LEFT BEHIND…

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00:25:57,681 --> 00:25:59,933
LINK FOUND TO KILLER
OF ELDERLY WOMAN IN CUAUHTÉMOC

417
00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:01,560
EVIDENCE POINTS TO "MATAVIEJITAS"

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00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:04,437
A victim's report
led to the capture of this woman,

419
00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:07,482
who, through the fingerprints
she left behind on a glass,

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00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,526
was identified and located.

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00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:14,406
She was identified by four elderly people

422
00:26:14,489 --> 00:26:18,577
who were deceived with the promise
of financial aid cards.

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00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:19,661
She will be in custody

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00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:23,123
of the Main Prosecutor's Office
for Homicide Investigation.

425
00:26:28,712 --> 00:26:30,547
Araceli Vázquez was linked

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00:26:31,131 --> 00:26:33,300
to several burglaries

427
00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:36,177
by the investigative police unit
at main prosecutor's offices.

428
00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:47,272
My mom had this quirk.

429
00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:49,816
She never removed tags from anything.

430
00:26:49,899 --> 00:26:52,444
I remember that she had these watches

431
00:26:52,527 --> 00:26:56,239
with tags that were yellowed
because they were old.

432
00:26:56,323 --> 00:26:59,200
And one of the watches taken from Araceli

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00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:01,119
had that characteristic.

434
00:27:02,203 --> 00:27:04,205
That was the only thing I saw.

435
00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:06,916
And my children, who had to be there,

436
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,253
said, "My grandma used to wear this.
My grandma used to wear that."

437
00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:11,880
Because of her methods,

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00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:14,507
the police are investigating if this woman

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00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:18,178
is also linked
to at least five of the murders

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00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:22,474
of old people
that have been committed lately.

441
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:25,101
Please note
that we found at her home

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00:27:25,685 --> 00:27:28,563
a white coat, a wig,

443
00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:31,566
and some ID cards
from the National Institute of Old Age

444
00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:33,234
that were issued to elderly people,

445
00:27:33,318 --> 00:27:36,529
and this matches
the modus operandi of the murders.

446
00:27:37,113 --> 00:27:41,242
At that time,
suspects were shown in public.

447
00:27:41,326 --> 00:27:43,870
This happened at a press room.

448
00:27:43,953 --> 00:27:46,915
People were exposed there

449
00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:49,959
to whatever the police
wanted to do and say.

450
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:53,296
Let her do it herself!

451
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:54,547
Let her do it herself!

452
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:56,383
The thief is female?

453
00:28:00,261 --> 00:28:03,973
We could yell
a question at them.

454
00:28:04,057 --> 00:28:07,394
How did you know which houses to target?

455
00:28:07,477 --> 00:28:10,313
Because I never followed
a specific method.

456
00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:11,940
I walked.

457
00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:15,527
If I saw an elderly person sweeping
or peeking outside…

458
00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:17,946
I don't know, cleaning their windows,

459
00:28:18,029 --> 00:28:19,656
I'd say, "There's someone here."

460
00:28:19,739 --> 00:28:22,826
If I saw a family member,
a son, a daughter, someone,

461
00:28:22,909 --> 00:28:24,744
I kept walking, I never went inside.

462
00:28:24,828 --> 00:28:27,997
I mean, in fact,
I never broke into a house.

463
00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:30,166
She was accused of several robberies,

464
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:33,461
but perhaps she was identified
in one of the murder cases.

465
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:35,004
We had prepared a lineup

466
00:28:35,088 --> 00:28:38,633
with all the murderers
linked to this case,

467
00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,802
in a one-way mirror room
for the witnesses.

468
00:28:40,885 --> 00:28:44,389
ARACELI VÁZQUEZ'S HOUSE IS SEARCHED
IN ACOLMAN AND STOLEN OBJECTS ARE FOUND

469
00:28:44,472 --> 00:28:46,057
ROBBER IS LINKED TO OLD LADY'S DEATH

470
00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:48,143
THIEF IS ACCUSED OF FIVE CRIMES

471
00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:49,894
ARACELI VÁZQUEZ GARCÍA
39 YEARS OLD

472
00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:52,814
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE LINKS
ARACELI VÁZQUEZ TO HUSBAND IN THE CRIMES

473
00:28:54,315 --> 00:28:55,900
"MATAVIEJITAS" IS PUNISHED

474
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:58,987
PRESUMED COLLUSION
IN THE HOMICIDE OF GRANDMAS

475
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:13,626
Early this morning,

476
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:16,296
the body
of María de los Ángeles Repper Hernández

477
00:29:16,379 --> 00:29:19,340
was found in her room
with a garment tied around her neck.

478
00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:21,176
She was 92 years old.

479
00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:27,015
I remember that a few months
after Araceli was detained,

480
00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:30,393
murders of old ladies kept happening

481
00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:31,978
and so, the question was,

482
00:29:33,563 --> 00:29:34,731
"Are they?"

483
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,399
"Are they not?"

484
00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:40,820
"And who is then committing these crimes?"

485
00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:44,449
GUADALUPE GONZÁLEZ SÁNCHEZ
74 YEARS OLD

486
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:50,872
ESTELA CANTORAL TREJO
85 YEARS OLD

487
00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:56,211
DELFINA GONZÁLEZ CASTILLO
92 YEARS OLD

488
00:29:57,337 --> 00:29:59,881
MARÍA VIRGINIA XELEHUATZI TIZAPÁN
84 YEARS OLD

489
00:30:01,382 --> 00:30:04,344
MARGARITA MARTELL VÁZQUEZ
72 YEARS OLD

490
00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:09,557
MARÍA DE LOS ÁNGELES CORTÉS
84 YEARS OLD

491
00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:15,271
More than ten old ladies
have been strangled so far

492
00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:18,107
in the Federal District in 2004.

493
00:30:18,191 --> 00:30:21,903
They all lived alone
and had some form of income.

494
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,868
Another alleged murderer
of elderly women was detained.

495
00:30:29,452 --> 00:30:31,788
His name is Jorge Mario Tablas Silva,

496
00:30:31,871 --> 00:30:34,707
and he, allegedly, committed two crimes.

497
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:36,960
He wore a white coat
and either a wig

498
00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:38,211
or dyed hair.

499
00:30:38,294 --> 00:30:39,754
He pretended to be a nurse

500
00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:43,591
in order to establish a relationship
with María Eugenia Guzmán Noguez,

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00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:48,638
of 66 years of age, to whom he promised
to give a financial support card.

502
00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:50,598
The District Attorney's Office

503
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,852
believes that he's the perpetrator
of eight additional murders.

504
00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:58,398
The District Attorney's Office
conducted many searches and, officially,

505
00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,775
found many belongings

506
00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,902
linked to the murder of old ladies.

507
00:31:02,986 --> 00:31:05,530
FIFTH CRIME IS ATTRIBUTED
TO IMPRISONED "MATAVIEJITAS"

508
00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:10,159
A blonde wig,

509
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:14,581
a stethoscope, and even a Bible,

510
00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:17,250
which had some passage on the front cover

511
00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:20,962
through which God
gave his permission to exterminate.

512
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:25,717
Apparently,
he was the second serial killer,

513
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,052
and we were wondering,
"How many are there?"

514
00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:29,387
It's been six years

515
00:31:29,470 --> 00:31:32,515
since Jorge Mario Tablas
committed his first crime

516
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,393
against a person
who gave him a place to stay.

517
00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:37,186
In May 1998,

518
00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:40,189
the suspect was linked to the murder

519
00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:42,692
of María Amparo González Salceda,

520
00:31:42,775 --> 00:31:44,903
who also died by strangulation.

521
00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:47,238
Were you able to prove that homicide?

522
00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:50,950
No, I don't think we were.

523
00:31:51,618 --> 00:31:55,246
And there wasn't,
just like in Araceli's case,

524
00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:58,291
any conclusive evidence

525
00:31:58,374 --> 00:32:01,127
to prove that he was the serial killer.

526
00:32:01,794 --> 00:32:03,504
There were copycats.

527
00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:05,632
And they kept killing people.

528
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,426
We had to keep working.

529
00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:13,890
There were copycats
and the Prosecutor's Office,

530
00:32:13,973 --> 00:32:16,601
formerly the District Attorney's Office,
needed

531
00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:19,103
to deliver some results.

532
00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:21,564
That's the problem with these cases.

533
00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:25,485
Back then, many times,
and in many District Attorney offices,

534
00:32:25,568 --> 00:32:29,155
they detained people to investigate,
instead of investigating to detain people.

535
00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:33,618
It was a chance
for the Office of the District Attorney

536
00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:38,081
to decrease
some of the pressure they were feeling.

537
00:32:38,164 --> 00:32:42,001
Political, social, and media-related.

538
00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:45,922
Despite the composite sketches
and the leads that the police has,

539
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:50,385
the killings of elderly people
in Mexico City haven't stopped.

540
00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:52,261
The District Attorney's Office

541
00:32:52,345 --> 00:32:54,263
requested the help of this institute,

542
00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:57,475
whose investigators concluded
that the "Mataviejitas"

543
00:32:57,558 --> 00:32:59,894
has decreased
the interval between murders.

544
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,605
The first ones are one year apart.

545
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,774
Then, the interval decreased
to a few months.

546
00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:06,317
And now, it's a few weeks.

547
00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:18,871
The opposing party in Mexico City

548
00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:21,958
obviously used this
to attack the government.

549
00:33:22,041 --> 00:33:24,377
To prove that things were not done right.

550
00:33:24,460 --> 00:33:27,296
There were complaints
against the District Attorney, Mr. Bátiz.

551
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:30,842
They said, "Are you going to catch
the 'Mataviejitos'?"

552
00:33:30,925 --> 00:33:32,510
"Our grandmas are being murdered."

553
00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:35,471
Mr. Bernardo Bátiz Vázquez,

554
00:33:35,555 --> 00:33:38,099
District Attorney of the Federal District.

555
00:33:38,182 --> 00:33:43,062
We hereby formally express
our sincere concern

556
00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:47,483
over the rising wave of violence
against elderly women.

557
00:33:48,067 --> 00:33:50,695
And we urge you to take decisive action

558
00:33:50,778 --> 00:33:52,613
to protect this segment of society

559
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:56,200
which is classified
as one of the most vulnerable ones.

560
00:33:56,284 --> 00:33:59,787
They were demanding the removal
of the former District Attorney.

561
00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:03,291
We, the local legislators
from Acción Nacional Parliamentary Group

562
00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:06,836
have launched actions
to inform and prevent,

563
00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:09,839
through a campaign called Safe Home,

564
00:34:09,922 --> 00:34:13,051
which we believe
you've been made aware of.

565
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,680
There are some PAN legislators

566
00:34:17,764 --> 00:34:20,224
that, with good or bad intentions,

567
00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:24,979
are saying that some locks,
some little chains, are necessary.

568
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,482
They even gave me one for free.

569
00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:29,233
The lock for Bátiz's home.

570
00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:34,989
It was not necessary to force open doors
to get to the victims.

571
00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:37,200
They opened the door.

572
00:34:37,283 --> 00:34:41,746
Or out on the street,
they gave the criminal instructions

573
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:43,498
on how to get to their home.

574
00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:47,293
When I made that joke,
the journalists said,

575
00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:50,129
"Hey, they say that,
since you're an old man,

576
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:53,925
they'll bring a lock to your home."

577
00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:56,677
I live with my wife.

578
00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:58,721
And I may be old, but I still got it.

579
00:35:00,723 --> 00:35:02,517
But this kind of…

580
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,478
They got very upset,
but then they calmed down.

581
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,441
I think that the trigger
that made the case explode

582
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,693
was the fact that in 2005,

583
00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:16,823
we already had more than 30 homicides
that were connected to this case.

584
00:35:16,906 --> 00:35:19,534
Between 1998 and 2005,

585
00:35:19,617 --> 00:35:23,121
at least 49 cases
have been recorded in Mexico City.

586
00:35:23,871 --> 00:35:27,125
There were three murders
committed in 1998.

587
00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:29,877
Two in 1999.

588
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:32,880
Two in 2001. Two in 2002.

589
00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:34,924
By 2003, there were 12.

590
00:35:35,007 --> 00:35:36,968
Seventeen in 2004.

591
00:35:37,051 --> 00:35:39,887
And on the weekend,
two more were recorded.

592
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:44,851
The investigations done by the police
didn't seem meticulous.

593
00:35:45,434 --> 00:35:49,313
We know there was concern
inside the District Attorney's Office.

594
00:35:50,606 --> 00:35:52,942
It was affecting the administration.

595
00:35:53,025 --> 00:35:56,612
It was undermining
the people's trust in the police

596
00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:58,823
and the fight against crime at the time.

597
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:02,201
INAPAM HIRES CRIMINOLOGIST
TO "HUNT" "MATAVIEJITAS"

598
00:36:02,285 --> 00:36:04,871
PGJDF OFFERS MORE RESOURCES
TO CATCH THE "MATAVIEJITAS"

599
00:36:05,454 --> 00:36:08,416
One of the factors
that made this a high-profile case

600
00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:12,420
was the daily political confrontation
between the Governor of Mexico City

601
00:36:12,503 --> 00:36:14,630
and former President Vicente Fox.

602
00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:18,718
There were disputes every single day.

603
00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:21,846
Therefore, the possibility
that a serial killer might exist

604
00:36:21,929 --> 00:36:24,390
could reflect the inability
of the Governor of Mexico City,

605
00:36:24,473 --> 00:36:27,226
who wanted to run for President back then.

606
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:31,439
Long live Mexico!

607
00:36:31,522 --> 00:36:33,232
Long may it live!

608
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:36,652
I think that this "Mataviejitas" case

609
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:41,324
became very high-profile
because it happened in Mexico City.

610
00:36:41,407 --> 00:36:43,868
Because, even though we were seeing

611
00:36:43,951 --> 00:36:48,164
an increase in the number of femicides
in the State of Mexico,

612
00:36:48,831 --> 00:36:51,709
and, unfortunately,
in Ciudad Juárez as well,

613
00:36:51,792 --> 00:36:53,586
in that poor border area,

614
00:36:53,669 --> 00:36:57,215
it wasn't treated the same way
because that was happening far away.

615
00:36:58,799 --> 00:37:02,345
Violent crimes against women
are unstoppable in Ciudad Juárez.

616
00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:05,181
According to numbers provided
by the State Attorney's Office,

617
00:37:05,264 --> 00:37:10,019
murdered women make up more
than 10% of the crimes recorded

618
00:37:10,102 --> 00:37:12,521
in that part of the state of Chihuahua.

619
00:37:12,605 --> 00:37:16,525
The investigation binders
created more than a decade ago

620
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:18,778
are still unsolved.

621
00:37:18,861 --> 00:37:21,781
There's been a lot of violence
in Ciudad Juárez for a long time.

622
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:24,492
They haven't solved anything.
We don't have faith in them.

623
00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:26,327
I don't even have faith in the police.

624
00:37:28,704 --> 00:37:32,208
During my investigation work
in the "Mataviejitas" case,

625
00:37:32,291 --> 00:37:34,043
which lasted at least ten years,

626
00:37:34,126 --> 00:37:36,295
I noticed that during the same time

627
00:37:36,379 --> 00:37:39,674
that the murder of old ladies
took place in Mexico City,

628
00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:42,927
more than 300 murders
of young women

629
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:46,264
were officially recorded in Ciudad Juárez.

630
00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:50,726
And at least 4,000 people disappeared
in the State of Mexico.

631
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:55,648
The statements provided
by the police and the media

632
00:37:55,731 --> 00:37:57,525
are drastically different.

633
00:37:58,192 --> 00:38:00,569
While the "Mataviejitas" victims

634
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:02,280
are considered vulnerable,

635
00:38:02,363 --> 00:38:06,409
femicide victims
are judged by the way they dress,

636
00:38:06,492 --> 00:38:09,078
where they go, where they are.

637
00:38:09,787 --> 00:38:13,291
The government has never launched
such an exhaustive search

638
00:38:13,374 --> 00:38:16,335
to solve the femicide cases

639
00:38:16,419 --> 00:38:20,089
as they did with the search
of the old lady serial killer.

640
00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:24,510
In fact, 92% of femicides

641
00:38:24,593 --> 00:38:26,012
go unsolved.

642
00:38:36,731 --> 00:38:39,233
Teacher Lolita left her door open

643
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:41,986
almost all afternoon long
after coming home from work.

644
00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:44,280
And in the evening,

645
00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:46,407
she closed her door and went to bed.

646
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:52,330
The "Mataviejitas"
used to sit down with the doorman

647
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:55,708
and talked about the neighbors,

648
00:38:55,791 --> 00:38:57,501
which ones lived by themselves…

649
00:38:57,585 --> 00:39:01,964
So, she found out
that Teacher María Dolores lived alone

650
00:39:02,631 --> 00:39:05,092
and she befriended her.

651
00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:06,844
And she'd go up to her apartment.

652
00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:10,723
Therefore, she knew and was aware,
as they say, of all her activities.

653
00:39:13,934 --> 00:39:16,395
And it didn't take her long.

654
00:39:16,479 --> 00:39:20,775
Maybe a month or two
before she was killed in her apartment.

655
00:39:23,194 --> 00:39:26,906
Apparently, the telephone cord was wrapped
around her neck and she was choked.

656
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:42,004
Ever since, her apartment has remained
exactly like she left it.

657
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:48,469
GRANDMA KILLER ATTACKS

658
00:39:50,846 --> 00:39:54,600
A few months later,
we were told there was a suspect.

659
00:39:54,683 --> 00:39:57,311
A potentially suspicious man.

660
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:02,316
In some cases,

661
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,821
the murderer is tall,
with fair complexion and stocky.

662
00:40:06,904 --> 00:40:10,825
Actually, due to how the victims
have been subdued,

663
00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:14,328
it can't be ruled out
that it's a man dressed as a woman.

664
00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:17,331
We know that the suspect
dresses as a woman,

665
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:21,710
but is also reportedly strong
and with big hands,

666
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:23,295
so it could be a man.

667
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:26,715
We knew it could be a man
dressed as a woman

668
00:40:26,799 --> 00:40:31,095
or a strong woman
with some masculine features.

669
00:40:31,178 --> 00:40:35,891
We have information from witnesses

670
00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:38,853
and we think

671
00:40:38,936 --> 00:40:44,150
that this is the one
that most closely resembles

672
00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:45,526
the potential serial killer.

673
00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:48,487
The one thing that
made it less likely that it was a woman

674
00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:52,366
was the strength used
to suffocate the victims.

675
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:54,452
That was one of the most solid theories,

676
00:40:54,535 --> 00:40:57,413
that it was a man dressed as a woman.

677
00:40:57,496 --> 00:40:59,373
And it could be a homosexual.

678
00:40:59,957 --> 00:41:02,251
I mean, we couldn't rule out anything.

679
00:41:03,377 --> 00:41:05,045
We had to investigate everything.

680
00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:21,312
At a certain time, we went
to the meeting spot where we work.

681
00:41:21,395 --> 00:41:24,857
I found it strange to see patrol cars,

682
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,151
but I didn't think it was important.

683
00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:32,865
And I arrived
at the spot with the ladies,

684
00:41:32,948 --> 00:41:34,992
and we were all talking.

685
00:41:35,075 --> 00:41:37,161
"There are many patrol cars back there."

686
00:41:37,244 --> 00:41:40,289
The trucks
of the famous riot police officers.

687
00:41:40,372 --> 00:41:43,334
We never imagined it was an operation

688
00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:46,670
against sex trade work,
as it's called nowadays.

689
00:41:46,754 --> 00:41:48,714
Previously, we called it "whoring."

690
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:52,968
And they started to come
to the spot where we gathered.

691
00:41:53,052 --> 00:41:55,679
From the left and the right sides.

692
00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:57,765
And they started making arrests.

693
00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:03,312
Those who resisted or said,
"Tell me why," or "What's going on?"…

694
00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:06,524
Pardon the language,
but we were fucking forced to go.

695
00:42:09,068 --> 00:42:12,571
Once inside the vehicle,
they used tear gas.

696
00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:16,033
"Don't look at me. You are so fucked."

697
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,454
And they kidnapped us

698
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:23,874
because at that moment,
we didn't know the cause of the operation.

699
00:42:41,308 --> 00:42:43,269
I remember I was home,

700
00:42:43,352 --> 00:42:45,604
and my coworker Alma Delia called me.

701
00:42:45,688 --> 00:42:47,189
She said, "Hey, guess what."

702
00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:49,817
"There's an operation
and everyone is being taken."

703
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,360
"They are being beaten up."

704
00:42:51,443 --> 00:42:52,903
"They are being tear-gassed."

705
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:57,449
We didn't know
what was happening around us.

706
00:42:57,533 --> 00:43:01,537
They took our fingerprints
from both hands.

707
00:43:02,037 --> 00:43:06,166
They violated all our rights.
They trampled us and all that.

708
00:43:13,048 --> 00:43:16,719
It was what is commonly
or colloquially known as a raid.

709
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:27,104
I never ordered a raid
or a massive search.

710
00:43:28,397 --> 00:43:31,066
If the preventive police
or the judicial police

711
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:33,110
did something on their own

712
00:43:33,193 --> 00:43:35,738
which, sometimes, they did…

713
00:43:35,821 --> 00:43:38,532
They had to confront on the streets

714
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:42,453
what I only saw from far away
in my office.

715
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:46,957
The District Attorney's Office,
with their absurd theory or hypothesis

716
00:43:47,041 --> 00:43:49,376
that the "Mataviejitas"
was a cross-dresser…

717
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,795
well, obviously,
who else, except the hookers?

718
00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:54,590
"This one has more resemblance.
This one has more features."

719
00:43:54,673 --> 00:43:57,676
"No, this one
is almost the composite sketch."

720
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,597
In fact, they got me involved
by saying that I was the "Mataviejitas."

721
00:44:16,528 --> 00:44:18,697
I think it was simply
because of my physique.

722
00:44:23,702 --> 00:44:26,705
My appearance, because I am stocky,

723
00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:30,417
I don't look like a Barbie doll.

724
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,091
Why did you suspect, at some point,
that it was a transvestite?

725
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:39,968
Because of the physical strength.

726
00:44:55,317 --> 00:44:59,613
I believe they arrested
between 80 and 120.

727
00:45:00,406 --> 00:45:02,282
Most of us were booked.

728
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,371
There were no bookings.

729
00:45:07,454 --> 00:45:09,331
There were no bookings or anything else.

730
00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:13,377
We only wanted to see
if the fingerprints matched.

731
00:45:13,460 --> 00:45:17,172
They didn't match and they were released.
We didn't do anything else.

732
00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:20,843
HOMESEXUALS DEMAND
NOT TO BE TREATED AS CRIMINALS

733
00:45:20,926 --> 00:45:24,346
TRANSVESTITES AGAINST "MATAVIEJITAS"

734
00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:29,893
We apologized.

735
00:45:29,977 --> 00:45:31,979
But we had to investigate.

736
00:45:32,062 --> 00:45:34,732
We were working on a very serious,
very severe case.

737
00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:37,359
And we were working on a case

738
00:45:37,443 --> 00:45:41,196
of murder of the most vulnerable people
in our society, the elderly.

739
00:45:43,615 --> 00:45:46,493
They tried to solve the case

740
00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:48,537
without having all the evidence.

741
00:45:49,496 --> 00:45:51,039
There was great confusion.

742
00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:52,708
I remember

743
00:45:52,791 --> 00:45:57,296
around 47, 48

744
00:45:58,505 --> 00:45:59,840
crime scenes.

745
00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:03,552
They had traces of fingerprints.

746
00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:07,806
But none of them helped
to make an identification.

747
00:46:09,933 --> 00:46:15,314
Criminals rarely leave behind
full fingerprints.

748
00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:19,193
In one of the cases,
we had a full fingerprint.

749
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:21,570
She pretended to be a paramedic.

750
00:46:21,653 --> 00:46:23,655
She offered her services.

751
00:46:23,739 --> 00:46:25,532
She had some X-rays…

752
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,409
The victim had some X-rays.

753
00:46:27,493 --> 00:46:29,244
The killer asks to see the X-ray.

754
00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:31,205
The killer takes it, looks at it.

755
00:46:31,288 --> 00:46:34,750
A family member of the potential victim
stopped by, so the killer fled.

756
00:46:35,334 --> 00:46:37,628
We had a full fingerprint on an X-ray.

757
00:46:38,545 --> 00:46:41,507
Now we had to link a name
to that fingerprint.

758
00:46:43,217 --> 00:46:47,554
And we had a very large
fingerprint database.

759
00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:51,683
And we compared the fingerprints
left behind by the "Mataviejitas"

760
00:46:51,767 --> 00:46:53,227
at the crime scene,

761
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:54,895
and there were no matches.

762
00:46:55,604 --> 00:46:58,190
We accessed all
the databases we could.

763
00:46:58,273 --> 00:47:00,609
We obviously accessed
the databases linked

764
00:47:00,692 --> 00:47:03,070
to other prosecutor's offices back then.

765
00:47:03,153 --> 00:47:06,323
They meticulously scrutinized

766
00:47:06,406 --> 00:47:08,784
each case during the investigation,

767
00:47:08,867 --> 00:47:10,953
but they didn't know who it was.

768
00:47:11,036 --> 00:47:14,706
It was kind of an obsession,

769
00:47:15,624 --> 00:47:19,378
because I already knew
what this person looked like.

770
00:47:20,170 --> 00:47:22,381
And you start searching, right?

771
00:47:22,464 --> 00:47:25,968
Who looks like the killer? This one does.
This one has a different height.

772
00:47:26,051 --> 00:47:30,097
The walls in my room were covered
with the composite sketches.

773
00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:31,431
With the maps.

774
00:47:35,936 --> 00:47:39,106
They said, "We have to catch her,
no matter what."

775
00:47:41,775 --> 00:47:45,112
I told the head of Forensic Services

776
00:47:45,195 --> 00:47:47,823
that we should make a 3D bust.

777
00:47:47,906 --> 00:47:51,243
And he said, "No, we only do that

778
00:47:51,326 --> 00:47:54,037
to identify bone remains."

779
00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:56,373
So I decided to do it myself.

780
00:47:59,334 --> 00:48:03,171
Since I had all the composite sketches
up to that point,

781
00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:06,466
120 or 125 composite sketches,

782
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:10,304
I started getting averages
of the same type of eyes,

783
00:48:10,387 --> 00:48:13,348
the same type of nose,
the same type of lips,

784
00:48:13,432 --> 00:48:15,058
and I created a composite picture.

785
00:48:15,934 --> 00:48:19,104
And that was enough
to create the 3D bust.

786
00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:25,110
I created it with a Styrofoam base

787
00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:27,696
and commercial plasticine.

788
00:48:28,238 --> 00:48:29,823
The eyes are made of glass.

789
00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:31,992
I used fake eyelashes.

790
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,496
And since it was commercial plasticine,

791
00:48:37,164 --> 00:48:39,917
it melts with heat.

792
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,294
I kept it in the fridge at home.

793
00:48:42,377 --> 00:48:45,547
My daughters were young and used to say,
"Mom, get that out of there."

794
00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:48,508
"Each time we open the fridge,
we see that head."

795
00:49:05,734 --> 00:49:08,403
And people started to identify her.

796
00:49:08,487 --> 00:49:10,864
Because when I was creating it,

797
00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:13,200
I was in touch
with some witnesses and victims.

798
00:49:13,283 --> 00:49:15,285
I'd ask, "What do you think?"

799
00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:18,580
"Does it look like her?
From which angle did you see her?"

800
00:49:18,664 --> 00:49:20,916
And I started doing little modifications,

801
00:49:20,999 --> 00:49:24,419
until I got the bust that people know.

802
00:49:25,045 --> 00:49:26,129
Gender, female.

803
00:49:27,089 --> 00:49:28,966
Age, 45 years old.

804
00:49:29,049 --> 00:49:31,093
Height, 1.70 meters.

805
00:49:31,176 --> 00:49:34,596
Build, stocky.
Mouth, medium. Lips, thin.

806
00:49:42,396 --> 00:49:46,191
My grandma had fallen
inside her apartment.

807
00:49:46,274 --> 00:49:50,070
Ever since, she couldn't go outside
to run her errands.

808
00:49:50,696 --> 00:49:53,073
I asked her
to come live with me somewhere else.

809
00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:54,783
She refused. This was her home.

810
00:49:54,866 --> 00:49:57,619
I asked her, "Do you want to stay here?"

811
00:49:57,703 --> 00:49:59,454
She said, "Yes," and I said, "Fine."

812
00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:02,708
Let's get organized and we can stay here.

813
00:50:04,376 --> 00:50:05,961
What made us happy

814
00:50:06,545 --> 00:50:10,007
was going to museums,
the opera, Bellas Artes.

815
00:50:10,590 --> 00:50:12,718
I even took her to bars.

816
00:50:12,801 --> 00:50:13,969
She was…

817
00:50:14,052 --> 00:50:17,097
She was… my favorite person in the world.

818
00:50:24,146 --> 00:50:27,607
She was sleeping.
In the morning, I went to work early.

819
00:50:29,276 --> 00:50:32,821
I always called her
between 3:00 and 4:00 in the afternoon.

820
00:50:35,449 --> 00:50:36,575
She didn't answer.

821
00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:45,709
It was around noon.

822
00:50:45,792 --> 00:50:49,588
Between 12:00 and 1:00,
I was having lunch.

823
00:50:49,671 --> 00:50:54,468
My mom and my dad used to close the window
when they were eating.

824
00:50:56,636 --> 00:50:58,055
I said, "I'll close it."

825
00:50:59,014 --> 00:51:00,348
Then I turned around,

826
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:06,688
and saw someone
going through Margarita's drawers.

827
00:51:09,316 --> 00:51:10,650
She stared at me.

828
00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:14,780
We stared at each other.

829
00:51:15,447 --> 00:51:18,283
The look in her eye was harsh,
cold, disturbing.

830
00:51:23,747 --> 00:51:25,916
Since I left in a hurry,
I forgot the keys.

831
00:51:26,416 --> 00:51:28,418
And so, I rang the bell.

832
00:51:30,837 --> 00:51:34,007
She didn't come out, and all the lights
were off. It was getting dark.

833
00:51:35,008 --> 00:51:36,426
I rang the neighbor's bell.

834
00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:39,846
I said, "My grandma didn't answer the door
and I don't have my keys."

835
00:51:40,722 --> 00:51:43,433
Through the window, he yelled,
"Miss Margarita!"

836
00:51:43,517 --> 00:51:45,852
And I yelled, "Mane,"
but there was no answer.

837
00:51:46,937 --> 00:51:50,357
Then Ale said, "Something is going on."

838
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,942
That's why they broke the glass.

839
00:51:57,072 --> 00:52:00,158
The back bedroom looked like
it had been ransacked.

840
00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:02,077
Then, someone called me…

841
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,705
I don't remember which of the two
called me and said, "She's here."

842
00:52:16,424 --> 00:52:18,009
There were two pieces of evidence.

843
00:52:18,093 --> 00:52:20,095
One, the jewelry boxes.

844
00:52:21,555 --> 00:52:23,390
They found fingerprints there.

845
00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:28,061
And second, my grandma
was very eccentric, maybe.

846
00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:30,939
And if she placed some cushions
in the living room,

847
00:52:31,898 --> 00:52:34,025
they had to be perfectly aligned.

848
00:52:34,901 --> 00:52:37,654
And I said,
"Those cushions are misaligned."

849
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:42,117
They flipped one of them,
and it was stained.

850
00:52:45,203 --> 00:52:46,997
They performed forensic tests

851
00:52:48,373 --> 00:52:50,792
and realized
that it was my grandma's blood.

852
00:52:52,085 --> 00:52:53,712
In short, she suffocated her.

853
00:52:57,424 --> 00:52:59,885
The street was in chaos
because of the live broadcasts.

854
00:52:59,968 --> 00:53:02,762
The neighbors asked, "What happened?
We're watching the news."

855
00:53:02,846 --> 00:53:05,515
And I said I didn't know anything.

856
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:09,477
Someone told me to pack some clothes.
I only took my pajamas.

857
00:53:10,645 --> 00:53:13,440
I didn't know
that they would shut down the apartment.

858
00:53:17,277 --> 00:53:18,403
Jewels were stolen.

859
00:53:19,613 --> 00:53:21,907
Money, since my grandma
received a pension.

860
00:53:22,741 --> 00:53:24,743
The killer knew exactly where to look.

861
00:53:24,826 --> 00:53:28,330
The jewelry boxes that were not visible.
They were among her clothes.

862
00:53:30,207 --> 00:53:33,960
Then we went to the police station,

863
00:53:34,669 --> 00:53:36,087
and that's when they told me.

864
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:38,006
That's when I learned

865
00:53:38,965 --> 00:53:40,592
that my grandma was very likely…

866
00:53:42,677 --> 00:53:44,012
one more victim.

867
00:53:56,691 --> 00:53:58,860
In a city like
the Federal District,

868
00:53:59,736 --> 00:54:02,364
it isn't easy to find
a needle in a haystack.

869
00:54:02,864 --> 00:54:07,744
But there was a key piece of evidence
that helped us see a common pattern,

870
00:54:07,827 --> 00:54:10,747
which is what you look for
in cases like this.

871
00:54:11,998 --> 00:54:14,793
I started creating
a geographical profile

872
00:54:14,876 --> 00:54:16,711
by pinpointing on a map

873
00:54:16,795 --> 00:54:20,674
the spots where the homicides took place.

874
00:54:23,051 --> 00:54:26,012
I gave each year a different color.

875
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:36,481
Serial killers
never kill close to their homes,

876
00:54:36,564 --> 00:54:39,192
never kill close to their workplaces.

877
00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:46,074
We could see
that there were subway stations

878
00:54:46,157 --> 00:54:47,826
in the surrounding areas.

879
00:54:47,909 --> 00:54:50,370
Next stop, Tlatelolco station.

880
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:53,498
The killer would exit the station
or transfer to another train.

881
00:54:53,581 --> 00:54:56,084
And went looking for a new victim.

882
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,004
Sometimes, the killer didn't find anybody

883
00:54:59,671 --> 00:55:02,257
and went somewhere else the following day.

884
00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:22,986
Mattresses, refrigerators.

885
00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:32,454
Or anything made of iron
that you're selling.

886
00:55:41,546 --> 00:55:45,216
While we tried to determine
where the killer lived or worked,

887
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:49,054
we realized that the murders
always happened in front of parks.

888
00:55:49,137 --> 00:55:52,849
So, we noticed how this matched
the selection phase.

889
00:55:53,391 --> 00:55:54,851
And we have the modus operandi.

890
00:55:54,934 --> 00:55:58,772
She approaches by gaining,
or trying to gain, the victim's trust.

891
00:56:00,148 --> 00:56:02,275
Most likely close to a park or garden,

892
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,361
because in 99% of all cases,

893
00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:07,739
the homicides take place
next to a park or garden.

894
00:56:38,686 --> 00:56:41,189
At the Undersecretary's
Office of Public Safety,

895
00:56:41,272 --> 00:56:44,651
as well as other agencies
related to safety,

896
00:56:44,734 --> 00:56:48,446
people who have a position

897
00:56:48,530 --> 00:56:51,533
are usually identified
by means of a moniker.

898
00:56:51,616 --> 00:56:52,826
A nickname.

899
00:56:52,909 --> 00:56:55,620
In my case, they called me "Tiger."

900
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:01,709
I had the opportunity to be called

901
00:57:01,793 --> 00:57:05,505
by Mr. Renato Sales Heredia,
deputy district attorney,

902
00:57:05,588 --> 00:57:08,633
who told me, "Tiger, come to my office."

903
00:57:08,716 --> 00:57:12,429
And he said, "We want to show you
what we're doing

904
00:57:12,512 --> 00:57:14,222
to stop the "Mataviejitas."

905
00:57:14,305 --> 00:57:17,725
And they showed me a map of Mexico City

906
00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:21,104
that had some pins attached to it.

907
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:25,733
He said, "This is the area
where the crimes are taking place."

908
00:57:26,693 --> 00:57:30,864
We have deployed an operation
called "Parks and Gardens."

909
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:35,326
The criminal goes to parks

910
00:57:36,035 --> 00:57:38,955
to find elderly people,

911
00:57:39,038 --> 00:57:41,624
and then offers to walk them
to their home,

912
00:57:42,709 --> 00:57:44,002
killing them there."

913
00:57:44,794 --> 00:57:47,255
So, I said, "Come over to this side."

914
00:57:47,338 --> 00:57:48,465
"What do you see?"

915
00:57:49,591 --> 00:57:52,010
He went over and checked.
And he just stared.

916
00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:55,763
He said, "The map." I said, "Yes,
but the map is telling you something."

917
00:57:55,847 --> 00:57:57,724
Renato said, "I don't understand."

918
00:57:57,807 --> 00:58:01,686
I said, "Tell me the distance
between this park

919
00:58:01,769 --> 00:58:03,271
and the house where it happened."

920
00:58:03,354 --> 00:58:04,898
"Six blocks."

921
00:58:04,981 --> 00:58:06,900
I said, "Six blocks on foot."

922
00:58:07,817 --> 00:58:08,985
"That's not it."

923
00:58:09,068 --> 00:58:10,820
"Have you at least inquired

924
00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:14,657
if there are activities at those parks

925
00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:17,702
geared towards elderly people?"

926
00:58:17,785 --> 00:58:19,746
"No, there aren't any."

927
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:22,790
I said, "Then you should rule out
that hypothesis."

928
00:58:22,874 --> 00:58:27,086
I asked, "Do you have a map
that shows which way the streets go?"

929
00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:29,631
They brought a road atlas,
and I said, "Look."

930
00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:32,509
"The sites where the crimes occur

931
00:58:33,218 --> 00:58:37,388
are connected to main roads

932
00:58:38,097 --> 00:58:40,475
that allow for a quick escape route."

933
00:58:41,142 --> 00:58:44,229
"As long as you do it
going the opposite way."

934
00:58:45,855 --> 00:58:48,983
So, they asked, "Would you help us?"
I said, "Of course."

935
00:59:07,460 --> 00:59:10,713
It was on September 28, 2005.

936
00:59:15,677 --> 00:59:19,264
There was a knock on the door,
and it was Ms. Lupita.

937
00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:22,725
But I noticed that she came with a woman.

938
00:59:22,809 --> 00:59:24,477
Very stocky.

939
00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:29,274
Not really fat, but stocky.
Like with a broad back.

940
00:59:30,149 --> 00:59:33,236
I just remember
that she was wearing a red raincoat.

941
00:59:33,987 --> 00:59:35,697
A red raincoat.

942
00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:39,409
She had cropper hair
and dark olive complexion.

943
00:59:40,118 --> 00:59:44,247
And when I peeked outside,
she turned away from me and popped

944
00:59:44,831 --> 00:59:45,957
her collar.

945
00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:49,168
Like she wanted to hide.

946
00:59:52,213 --> 00:59:54,215
We didn't pay attention to those things.

947
00:59:55,425 --> 00:59:58,845
Then, Ms. Lupita
went upstairs with that person.

948
00:59:59,804 --> 01:00:01,681
And that was it.

949
01:00:06,269 --> 01:00:09,439
There was no commotion,
no noise, no nothing.

950
01:00:21,242 --> 01:00:23,703
Miss Lupita was lying on her back.

951
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:26,039
Her skirt was pulled up.

952
01:00:26,122 --> 01:00:29,459
Completely suffocated,
with her hosiery still around her neck.

953
01:00:29,542 --> 01:00:31,753
You know? Like wrapped around it.

954
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:38,926
SEPTEMBER 28, 2005

955
01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:40,053
OLD PEOPLE PANIC

956
01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:42,513
MRS. GUADALUPE OLIVEIRA WAS CHOKED

957
01:00:42,597 --> 01:00:44,349
LAST FAREWELL TO MRS. LUPITA

958
01:00:56,235 --> 01:00:59,656
I immediately called
all the police officers.

959
01:01:00,615 --> 01:01:03,201
They arrived right away, as always.

960
01:01:03,284 --> 01:01:06,120
You have to treat police officers
like police officers.

961
01:01:06,204 --> 01:01:10,166
So, I said, "I'm just leaving
the District Attorney's Office,

962
01:01:11,292 --> 01:01:12,710
where they say

963
01:01:13,211 --> 01:01:17,632
that you are only good to get drunks
out of bars, and just occasionally."

964
01:01:17,715 --> 01:01:21,344
"They wouldn't stop saying
that you are all incompetent,

965
01:01:21,427 --> 01:01:23,930
useless, worthless."

966
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:36,567
My patrol car that day was BC3-2050.

967
01:01:37,151 --> 01:01:40,196
I was in charge of the first section
of the Moctezuma neighborhood.

968
01:01:40,279 --> 01:01:42,407
We were neighborhood police officers
back then.

969
01:01:42,990 --> 01:01:46,828
And then,
one of the officers said, "Motherfuckers."

970
01:01:46,911 --> 01:01:49,205
I said,
"They said worse things about you."

971
01:01:50,748 --> 01:01:52,959
That you root for América."
They all said, "Oh."

972
01:01:53,042 --> 01:01:56,671
"Tell me. Is it true what they said
at the District Attorney's Office?"

973
01:01:56,754 --> 01:01:58,047
"No, sir."

974
01:01:58,131 --> 01:02:00,508
"Who owns this city?" "We do."

975
01:02:00,591 --> 01:02:02,427
"Who patrols?" "We do."

976
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:04,512
"Who will stop her?" "We will!"

977
01:02:04,595 --> 01:02:06,139
I said, "Go ahead then."

978
01:02:09,267 --> 01:02:13,855
I started going around
neighborhoods at 5:00 a.m.

979
01:02:14,439 --> 01:02:19,610
All the officers went out with that order,
to find the serial killer.

980
01:02:19,694 --> 01:02:22,655
Then I took out the composite sketches.

981
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:24,907
After the pep talk, I said,

982
01:02:24,991 --> 01:02:28,202
"Distribute them immediately
among all units."

983
01:02:30,329 --> 01:02:32,165
And we had it with us
the whole time,

984
01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:35,835
as if it was part of our uniform.

985
01:02:40,173 --> 01:02:42,550
"Keep your eyes wide open."

986
01:02:42,633 --> 01:02:44,886
"Report anything that seems odd."

987
01:02:46,053 --> 01:02:47,805
Chief Briones. A great guy.

988
01:02:48,473 --> 01:02:49,474
I said, "Look."

989
01:02:50,558 --> 01:02:52,560
"This dude is operating in this area."

990
01:02:53,352 --> 01:02:54,395
"Look at this map."

991
01:02:54,479 --> 01:02:58,649
"Then, increase the patrol rounds,
but do it differently."

992
01:02:59,192 --> 01:03:01,944
And I remember he said,
"Yes, in a serpentine pattern."

993
01:03:02,028 --> 01:03:05,656
I said, "Whichever way you want, man,
but you should innovate."

994
01:03:05,740 --> 01:03:09,452
Operation Serpentine
consisted in patrol cars

995
01:03:10,328 --> 01:03:15,458
driving at cruising speed
with the siren on.

996
01:03:18,544 --> 01:03:20,254
We had to be unpredictable.

997
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:23,341
They covered every street
of that neighborhood

998
01:03:23,424 --> 01:03:26,135
north to south, and south to north.

999
01:03:43,986 --> 01:03:47,281
The composite sketches
started showing up all around the city.

1000
01:03:47,365 --> 01:03:50,117
In the media, the campaign intensified.

1001
01:03:50,868 --> 01:03:54,038
We were hard on her heels.

1002
01:04:06,425 --> 01:04:09,095
Most of the time
that I lived in Jasso

1003
01:04:09,178 --> 01:04:11,514
it was at Ana María de los Reyes's house.

1004
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:15,434
Normally, the space
that we shared most often was the kitchen.

1005
01:04:16,060 --> 01:04:18,604
Drinking coffee or smoking a cigarette.

1006
01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:21,941
There was a song called
"I Smoke While I Wait."

1007
01:04:23,401 --> 01:04:26,821
She had this couch where she watched TV,
and she'd say, "Sit here."

1008
01:04:26,904 --> 01:04:30,575
"Pretend that you're smoking
and sing the song."

1009
01:04:38,374 --> 01:04:41,502
We were always communicating
through little notes.

1010
01:04:42,003 --> 01:04:44,255
If we didn't tell each other something,

1011
01:04:44,338 --> 01:04:45,923
she'd leave a note on my door.

1012
01:04:47,258 --> 01:04:49,510
"Joel, I went out shopping."

1013
01:04:50,011 --> 01:04:54,140
"I left food on the stove,
strawberries, and lemonade."

1014
01:04:55,850 --> 01:04:59,061
I loved watching them.
They held hands and looked like a couple.

1015
01:04:59,145 --> 01:05:01,230
They went to the market and came back.

1016
01:05:01,314 --> 01:05:03,983
And he whistled at her
like Pedro Infante to La Chorreada…

1017
01:05:04,066 --> 01:05:05,192
And she answered…

1018
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:12,575
We were like two children enjoying life.

1019
01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:17,496
She came very often

1020
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:20,708
because she liked coming
to smoke a cigarette with me.

1021
01:05:20,791 --> 01:05:23,210
We had coffee, we had juice.

1022
01:05:23,294 --> 01:05:27,465
And then she'd ask, "Shall I bring cheese
or beans? Let's have a taco."

1023
01:05:27,548 --> 01:05:28,799
We'd have a taco.

1024
01:05:29,383 --> 01:05:31,385
A beautiful person.

1025
01:05:41,479 --> 01:05:44,607
Based on the chronology
of the crimes, when do you expect…?

1026
01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:46,651
She liked watching news programs.

1027
01:05:47,234 --> 01:05:51,322
And I do remember that at some point,
she talked about that.

1028
01:05:51,405 --> 01:05:54,659
In the Federal District,
the number of deaths could be between…

1029
01:05:54,742 --> 01:05:56,744
I just remember that I said,

1030
01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:59,246
"Oh, those are just stories."

1031
01:05:59,330 --> 01:06:03,000
More than 100 police officers
search for this serial killer,

1032
01:06:03,084 --> 01:06:05,711
whose composite sketch
has been released on TV.

1033
01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:07,421
As an expert on serial killers,

1034
01:06:07,505 --> 01:06:09,632
Ontiveros believes that the "Mataviejitas"

1035
01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:12,677
has been killing for about seven years
in the capital city.

1036
01:06:16,263 --> 01:06:18,683
JANUARY 25, 2006

1037
01:06:24,271 --> 01:06:26,440
That day, I woke up, got ready,

1038
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,317
saw Ana,

1039
01:06:28,401 --> 01:06:29,652
she waved like this…

1040
01:06:29,735 --> 01:06:31,737
I left, went to work
and completed my shift.

1041
01:06:34,073 --> 01:06:37,326
Unfortunately,
Joel was late that day.

1042
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:40,371
He had to receive some merchandise
at work, and he was late.

1043
01:06:43,457 --> 01:06:45,167
When I left the subway station

1044
01:06:47,086 --> 01:06:50,756
and got to the corner
to turn on Jasso Street…

1045
01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:56,470
I turned and I saw
a patrol car on the left.

1046
01:06:59,306 --> 01:07:00,266
I had…

1047
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:02,601
a weird feeling.

1048
01:07:07,523 --> 01:07:08,566
I got home

1049
01:07:09,859 --> 01:07:11,986
and saw that the windows were open…

1050
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,240
as well as the front door to the house.

1051
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:21,287
That seemed very odd.

1052
01:07:21,370 --> 01:07:22,580
And I whistled.

1053
01:07:25,916 --> 01:07:27,460
But there was no response.

1054
01:07:30,254 --> 01:07:33,299
That was very strange,
so I thought, "I'll take a peek."

1055
01:07:35,968 --> 01:07:38,471
All the drawers were open.

1056
01:07:39,597 --> 01:07:41,932
The clothes were scattered.

1057
01:07:44,435 --> 01:07:45,770
I turned to my left…

1058
01:07:49,231 --> 01:07:51,692
and I saw Ana
lying on the floor of the TV room.

1059
01:07:57,114 --> 01:07:58,491
I thought…

1060
01:08:00,534 --> 01:08:02,078
"This can't be happening."

1061
01:08:02,161 --> 01:08:03,871
KITCHEN - TV ROOM

1062
01:08:04,538 --> 01:08:06,707
At that moment, I heard a noise.

1063
01:08:12,463 --> 01:08:13,506
And I saw…

1064
01:08:15,174 --> 01:08:16,008
that woman.

1065
01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:18,803
During that brief moment…

1066
01:08:21,847 --> 01:08:23,599
we looked into each other's eyes.

1067
01:08:24,266 --> 01:08:26,268
I never spoke with her.

1068
01:08:27,436 --> 01:08:29,522
That woman turned around.

1069
01:08:29,605 --> 01:08:32,233
She left calmly through the living room.

1070
01:08:33,150 --> 01:08:36,237
I remember that I walked slowly,
kind of following her.

1071
01:08:38,739 --> 01:08:40,241
I went outside,

1072
01:08:40,324 --> 01:08:42,034
and at that moment,

1073
01:08:43,077 --> 01:08:45,079
I had the impulse to yell.

1074
01:08:45,579 --> 01:08:47,081
"Stop that woman!"

1075
01:08:47,581 --> 01:08:48,791
"Stop that woman!"

1076
01:08:50,167 --> 01:08:52,169
And I thought about Celina.

1077
01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:55,589
And I started yelling, "Celina!"

1078
01:08:56,590 --> 01:08:57,800
"Celina, help me!"

1079
01:08:58,676 --> 01:09:01,637
He came in
and pushed the door very hard.

1080
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,181
"Help me! That woman hurt Ani!"

1081
01:09:04,265 --> 01:09:09,979
At that moment,
we were driving along Zaragoza Street.

1082
01:09:12,022 --> 01:09:14,692
We turned on José Jasso Street.

1083
01:09:14,775 --> 01:09:16,360
A young man came running.

1084
01:09:16,443 --> 01:09:17,820
He said, "Officer, help me!"

1085
01:09:20,531 --> 01:09:24,201
I noticed that the person turned around
and started running faster.

1086
01:09:24,994 --> 01:09:26,036
So I sped up

1087
01:09:26,912 --> 01:09:28,956
and told my partner, "You know what?"

1088
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:30,666
"Get out and go to the other side."

1089
01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:32,626
"If she gets to the subway, she's gone."

1090
01:09:32,710 --> 01:09:35,004
When she was about
to go inside the subway station,

1091
01:09:35,087 --> 01:09:37,173
I grabbed her
and she stared at me like this.

1092
01:09:37,256 --> 01:09:39,049
She asked why.

1093
01:09:39,133 --> 01:09:40,843
"Get inside. Let's see what you did."

1094
01:09:40,926 --> 01:09:42,720
She tried to hit me.

1095
01:09:42,803 --> 01:09:45,764
I saw her trying to hit my partner.

1096
01:09:45,848 --> 01:09:48,434
I got out of the car and went to help him.

1097
01:09:54,398 --> 01:09:55,816
The young man came

1098
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:58,819
and asked, "What did you do?
What did you do to my neighbor?"

1099
01:10:11,582 --> 01:10:13,459
She ran out of the house.

1100
01:10:13,542 --> 01:10:16,962
The lady took off,
running down the street.

1101
01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:20,758
My partner and I
each grabbed one of her arms

1102
01:10:20,841 --> 01:10:22,259
and put her in the patrol car.

1103
01:10:22,343 --> 01:10:24,345
THE "MATAVIEJITAS" HAS BEEN CAUGHT

1104
01:10:24,803 --> 01:10:28,766
The "Mataviejitas" was caught more than
seven years after the murders began.

1105
01:10:28,849 --> 01:10:31,936
The most wanted serial killer in Mexico
was finally arrested.

1106
01:10:32,019 --> 01:10:34,647
She was arrested today
in the Venustiano Carranza borough.

1107
01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:37,024
…by officers of the city police unit

1108
01:10:37,107 --> 01:10:40,361
after having killed an 82-year-old person.

1109
01:10:40,444 --> 01:10:43,489
Thanks to the statement
of a person who saw her leaving,

1110
01:10:43,572 --> 01:10:46,200
the police managed to capture her.

1111
01:10:46,283 --> 01:10:49,370
The "Mataviejitas" was caught.
Let's see what happened.

1112
01:10:49,453 --> 01:10:52,748
A neighbor noticed something suspicious.
He asked the police for help.

1113
01:10:52,831 --> 01:10:55,209
Fortunately,
there was a patrol car nearby,

1114
01:10:55,292 --> 01:10:57,628
car BCA3-1050.

1115
01:10:58,212 --> 01:10:59,421
She is now in custody.

1116
01:10:59,505 --> 01:11:00,339
CAPTURED!

1117
01:11:00,422 --> 01:11:03,217
We've been able to confirm,
with great accuracy,

1118
01:11:03,842 --> 01:11:07,930
that this is the woman who has committed

1119
01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:12,309
several homicides of elderly women.

1120
01:11:14,019 --> 01:11:17,314
She had two shopping bags,
the kind you get at the supermarket,

1121
01:11:17,398 --> 01:11:18,899
with plastic handles.

1122
01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:23,362
She had some voter ID cards,

1123
01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:28,575
food bank ID cards for seniors.

1124
01:11:28,659 --> 01:11:32,454
She had several wrestlers' business cards,

1125
01:11:32,538 --> 01:11:35,958
receipts of professional
wrestling ring rentals.

1126
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:38,711
She had some bottles of shampoo
in her bags.

1127
01:11:38,794 --> 01:11:40,045
Lotions.

1128
01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:41,422
A hairspray,

1129
01:11:41,505 --> 01:11:43,799
a cell phone,

1130
01:11:43,882 --> 01:11:46,969
a blood pressure monitor.

1131
01:11:47,052 --> 01:11:49,013
She had some old coins,

1132
01:11:49,555 --> 01:11:51,348
pendants, chains.

1133
01:11:51,432 --> 01:11:53,600
A card of Saint Lazarus

1134
01:11:53,684 --> 01:11:56,020
and another one
of Our Lady of Holy Death.

1135
01:11:56,103 --> 01:11:58,355
She also had a keychain

1136
01:11:59,690 --> 01:12:02,318
that had the inscription
"The Lady of Silence!"

1137
01:12:02,401 --> 01:12:06,739
"Professional wrestler,
wrestling female world champion."

1138
01:12:06,822 --> 01:12:09,908
"Wishing you a Merry Christmas
and a Happy New Year" on it.

1139
01:12:11,869 --> 01:12:15,080
I was surprised.

1140
01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:17,082
Seeing such a calm person.

1141
01:12:17,166 --> 01:12:20,919
Seeing a person
with no malice on her face.

1142
01:12:21,545 --> 01:12:24,798
She sat in the car, took out a sandwich,
and started eating.

1143
01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,676
In fact, she had in her hand
an image of the Holy Death.

1144
01:12:28,344 --> 01:12:29,887
And she started to eat.

1145
01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:40,647
I arrived.

1146
01:12:40,731 --> 01:12:45,486
I saw a very flashy person

1147
01:12:46,403 --> 01:12:47,780
with too much makeup.

1148
01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:53,494
I said, "Good afternoon." I sat down,
and she turned around to see me.

1149
01:12:53,577 --> 01:12:55,662
I asked, "Tell me, what do you do?"

1150
01:12:56,538 --> 01:12:58,499
She said, "Well, I do lots of things."

1151
01:12:59,208 --> 01:13:02,336
I said, "You must be an important woman."

1152
01:13:02,419 --> 01:13:05,422
"Besides, you're imposing."
I was looking at her arms.

1153
01:13:05,506 --> 01:13:07,132
I was looking at her hands.

1154
01:13:07,674 --> 01:13:09,927
Because when I talked to Renato

1155
01:13:10,761 --> 01:13:14,098
he told us
that his forensic team had indicated

1156
01:13:14,598 --> 01:13:18,644
that because of how the murders
had happened, and the testimonials,

1157
01:13:19,395 --> 01:13:23,607
it was probably a male
who practiced wrestling.

1158
01:13:24,525 --> 01:13:26,485
Because of how the chokehold was applied.

1159
01:13:26,568 --> 01:13:27,986
It's the headlock.

1160
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:29,863
Yes, it's the headlock.

1161
01:13:29,947 --> 01:13:33,200
Those who practice it,
apply the lock with their arm.

1162
01:13:33,283 --> 01:13:34,827
She did it with an object.

1163
01:13:34,910 --> 01:13:37,704
I thought about this
when I was talking to her,

1164
01:13:37,788 --> 01:13:41,458
and I saw her arms and her big hands.

1165
01:13:41,542 --> 01:13:43,669
I asked, "What sport do you like?"

1166
01:13:43,752 --> 01:13:46,672
I said, "Tell me."
And I nudged her with my elbow.

1167
01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:50,551
She said, "Well, I really like wrestling."

1168
01:13:50,634 --> 01:13:52,010
I was like, "Oh, shit."

1169
01:13:54,221 --> 01:13:56,807
"Awesome. Great. I love wrestling."

1170
01:13:57,891 --> 01:14:02,855
I said, "Well, I'll be right back.
Let me speed up the paperwork."

1171
01:14:02,938 --> 01:14:04,189
"Fine. Thanks."

1172
01:14:06,275 --> 01:14:09,945
I stepped out. Briones was there.
The officers that detained her were there.

1173
01:14:10,028 --> 01:14:12,448
I turned towards Briones
and said, "It's her."

1174
01:14:12,948 --> 01:14:14,366
Why did you kill her?

1175
01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:16,785
-Why did you kill her?
-I can't tell you.

1176
01:14:16,869 --> 01:14:18,662
Ma'am, what's your name?

1177
01:14:18,745 --> 01:14:20,789
Did you have a relationship with her?

1178
01:14:20,873 --> 01:14:21,707
No, sir.

1179
01:14:21,790 --> 01:14:24,084
-Is this your first murder?
-What's your name?

1180
01:14:24,168 --> 01:14:25,502
Juana Barraza Samperio.

1181
01:14:25,586 --> 01:14:28,505
-Is it the first, ma'am?
-Yes, ma'am.

1182
01:14:29,006 --> 01:14:31,508
-Did you steal something from the home?
-No.

1183
01:14:31,592 --> 01:14:33,343
Is it the first time you've done this?

1184
01:14:33,427 --> 01:14:36,263
The first crime was in 1998.

1185
01:14:36,346 --> 01:14:40,684
And over the course of almost eight years,
48 old ladies died.

1186
01:14:40,767 --> 01:14:44,188
And the District Attorney's
Office says that this woman's fingerprints

1187
01:14:44,271 --> 01:14:48,484
match the fingerprints found
in at least ten murders

1188
01:14:48,567 --> 01:14:51,445
in which she would be directly involved.

1189
01:14:53,197 --> 01:14:56,366
We were always looking
for a man.

1190
01:14:56,450 --> 01:14:59,745
And what surprised the whole police force

1191
01:15:00,287 --> 01:15:02,206
was that the serial killer was a woman.

1192
01:15:02,789 --> 01:15:06,502
Later I told one of my female coworkers

1193
01:15:06,585 --> 01:15:09,046
to check if she was actually a woman,
and she was.

1194
01:15:09,671 --> 01:15:11,048
I was really surprised.

1195
01:15:11,715 --> 01:15:14,551
Forty victims. A woman did it.

1196
01:15:14,635 --> 01:15:16,887
It wasn't easy to imagine

1197
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:20,140
because this is not what usually happens.

1198
01:15:20,224 --> 01:15:22,184
Besides, there was violence,

1199
01:15:23,101 --> 01:15:26,563
which is more common with men
than with women.

1200
01:15:27,147 --> 01:15:29,066
Strong arms, a man.

1201
01:15:30,025 --> 01:15:31,735
Uses chokeholds, a man.

1202
01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:35,447
The stereotype of a serial killer

1203
01:15:35,531 --> 01:15:37,950
is always a man, not a woman.

1204
01:15:38,033 --> 01:15:41,662
Even saying "serial murderess"
creates a different type of allure.

1205
01:15:41,745 --> 01:15:43,914
"Oh, murderess. Look. Wow!"

1206
01:15:43,997 --> 01:15:45,874
A totally different curiosity.

1207
01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:48,710
Well, her name is Juana Barraza Samperio,

1208
01:15:48,794 --> 01:15:51,463
and she admitted that she murdered
her victims out of anger.

1209
01:15:51,547 --> 01:15:54,841
The district attorney disclosed
this woman's troubled past

1210
01:15:54,925 --> 01:16:00,097
and said it could be the root cause
that turned her into a serial killer.

1211
01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:02,599
She was asked

1212
01:16:02,683 --> 01:16:07,062
about her motive,
why she killed her victims,

1213
01:16:07,145 --> 01:16:08,689
and she said it was out of anger.

1214
01:16:09,982 --> 01:16:12,401
When did you start committing
your homicides?

1215
01:16:12,484 --> 01:16:14,695
-My what?
-The homicides.

1216
01:16:14,778 --> 01:16:17,030
-No, it's the first time.
-It was the first time?

1217
01:16:17,114 --> 01:16:20,158
You haven't committed any others?
Why did you murder someone today?

1218
01:16:22,035 --> 01:16:23,412
Honestly, I lost it.

1219
01:16:23,495 --> 01:16:25,664
Why? What happened? Tell me.

1220
01:16:25,747 --> 01:16:29,501
-That lady and I started arguing.
-Why?

1221
01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,670
-Because of money.
-What money?

1222
01:16:31,753 --> 01:16:34,214
-My wages.
-I wasn't there.

1223
01:16:34,298 --> 01:16:37,551
Tell me everything in detail.
Why did you argue?

1224
01:16:37,634 --> 01:16:41,013
I arrived at her house and she
was going inside, opening the door.

1225
01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:43,265
She was coming back from the market.

1226
01:16:43,348 --> 01:16:48,687
And I asked her if she needed me
to wash or tidy up her home.

1227
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:52,107
She said, "Not now."
I said, "Please give me some water."

1228
01:16:52,190 --> 01:16:54,985
She did, and she happily invited me
to come inside.

1229
01:16:55,777 --> 01:16:58,614
I checked things out,
but didn't steal anything.

1230
01:16:58,697 --> 01:17:02,743
But how was it? What made you
so angry that you'd want to hurt her?

1231
01:17:02,826 --> 01:17:06,997
Because I asked her how much
she would pay me for the quilts.

1232
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,917
When she told me, I said,
"That's very little, ma'am."

1233
01:17:11,001 --> 01:17:14,671
She said, "You want to make
twice as much". That made me furious.

1234
01:17:14,755 --> 01:17:17,007
And I grabbed the rubber band,
but it wasn't mine.

1235
01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:18,592
It was on her table.

1236
01:17:18,675 --> 01:17:21,303
I grabbed it and choked her with it.

1237
01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:26,266
You left your fingerprints
in each of your crimes.

1238
01:17:26,350 --> 01:17:29,686
We are not making things up
or trying to trick you.

1239
01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:31,521
We don't need
to treat you badly.

1240
01:17:31,605 --> 01:17:33,565
This is an open-and-shut case.

1241
01:17:33,649 --> 01:17:37,444
-You're here. We caught you.
-Yes.

1242
01:17:37,527 --> 01:17:39,988
I am not denying it.

1243
01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:42,199
First she said all of them,
then she said none.

1244
01:17:42,282 --> 01:17:45,160
Then she said one,
then she said only the last one.

1245
01:17:47,621 --> 01:17:50,082
-Were you mistreated as a child?
-Yes.

1246
01:17:50,165 --> 01:17:51,625
-By whom?
-By my mom.

1247
01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:53,710
Your mom mistreated you? Tell me about it.

1248
01:17:54,670 --> 01:17:55,921
Tell me.

1249
01:17:56,004 --> 01:17:58,548
My mom mistreated me badly.
She used to hit me.

1250
01:17:59,299 --> 01:18:02,594
And she always cursed me.
She gave me away to an older man.

1251
01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:07,265
-She gave you away? Let it off your chest.
-Yes, with a very old man.

1252
01:18:07,349 --> 01:18:09,559
-And I was abused?
-You were abused?

1253
01:18:09,643 --> 01:18:13,271
-Yes, that's why I hated the ladies.
-You hated the ladies.

1254
01:18:14,106 --> 01:18:16,233
-Let it off your chest.
-I know it's no excuse.

1255
01:18:16,316 --> 01:18:18,985
I don't deserve to be forgiven
by God or anybody.

1256
01:18:20,654 --> 01:18:21,822
I did it.

1257
01:18:25,742 --> 01:18:28,245
According to what she said herself,

1258
01:18:28,328 --> 01:18:33,792
when she was a teenager,
when she started her teenage years,

1259
01:18:33,875 --> 01:18:38,755
her mom exchanged her
for a carton of beer.

1260
01:18:38,839 --> 01:18:43,593
She gave her to a person,
an old man, a senior man,

1261
01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:45,679
in exchange for a carton of beer.

1262
01:18:46,263 --> 01:18:49,599
That's when the drama began for her.

1263
01:18:49,683 --> 01:18:54,438
That was, undoubtedly,
one of the psychological causes

1264
01:18:54,521 --> 01:18:57,691
of her deviation,
of her personal conflict.

1265
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,615
Probably our first serial murderess,
right?

1266
01:19:05,699 --> 01:19:07,367
A Mexican one.

1267
01:19:08,326 --> 01:19:10,245
We would like to know what goes on

1268
01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:13,206
inside the mind of this type of criminal.

1269
01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:19,212
When she was
in the prosecutor's waiting room,

1270
01:19:20,881 --> 01:19:25,385
Dr. Apodaca asked her,
"Show me how you strangled them."

1271
01:19:25,469 --> 01:19:29,431
I decided to take off my tie
and give it to her.

1272
01:19:32,476 --> 01:19:34,352
And she began explaining.

1273
01:19:34,436 --> 01:19:38,398
She used Dr. Apodaca to show us,
and began strangling him.

1274
01:19:38,482 --> 01:19:41,735
At one point, she got excited
and squeezed hard.

1275
01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:46,198
I told another coworker, Miguel,

1276
01:19:46,281 --> 01:19:49,451
"Miguel, there is some hosiery
at the office."

1277
01:19:51,411 --> 01:19:52,662
Something like this.

1278
01:19:53,789 --> 01:19:58,084
When… Can you lower yourself a bit?
I did something like this.

1279
01:19:58,668 --> 01:20:02,255
I pulled like this, but leaning
my hand here so it doesn't straighten.

1280
01:20:02,839 --> 01:20:04,257
-And here.
-Mmm-hmm.

1281
01:20:05,383 --> 01:20:07,385
Here I pull tighter,

1282
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:11,389
and when you can't breathe,
you fall, and I release you.

1283
01:20:11,473 --> 01:20:13,058
But I never remove…

1284
01:20:13,141 --> 01:20:16,561
And if the victim doesn't
lower herself, what do you do?

1285
01:20:16,645 --> 01:20:19,272
I push her down, like this.

1286
01:20:19,356 --> 01:20:21,149
But I never touch her with my hands.

1287
01:20:21,233 --> 01:20:23,735
-Just with the forearms.
-Yes.

1288
01:20:23,819 --> 01:20:26,029
And you tie another knot?

1289
01:20:26,112 --> 01:20:28,114
Yes, when I do this and…

1290
01:20:28,198 --> 01:20:31,535
I mean, because I won't remove it.
I do this.

1291
01:20:32,536 --> 01:20:34,538
Yes. Just leave it like that.

1292
01:20:34,621 --> 01:20:37,040
Look. Nobody has this.

1293
01:20:38,416 --> 01:20:40,877
This is one of the knots.

1294
01:20:40,961 --> 01:20:43,463
This is the knot
with which she strangled Miguel.

1295
01:20:45,048 --> 01:20:47,509
But the most important thing,
I'll show you,

1296
01:20:48,009 --> 01:20:49,469
is that she leaves an autograph.

1297
01:20:50,971 --> 01:20:53,723
This is Juana's… signature.

1298
01:20:54,349 --> 01:20:57,561
I told her, "Give me your autograph."

1299
01:20:57,644 --> 01:20:58,895
And she happily did.

1300
01:20:59,729 --> 01:21:03,191
Well, this is the second one,
because on the other side

1301
01:21:03,275 --> 01:21:06,945
is the first signature
on the same piece of hosiery.

1302
01:21:07,612 --> 01:21:10,031
This is priceless,

1303
01:21:10,115 --> 01:21:13,910
especially because of the knot
and the signature.

1304
01:21:22,168 --> 01:21:25,505
The capital police will get together
with the person who reported

1305
01:21:25,589 --> 01:21:29,134
the serial killer to see
how they can reward him.

1306
01:21:29,217 --> 01:21:31,469
The police officers
that carried out the arrest

1307
01:21:31,553 --> 01:21:33,972
will each be rewarded with 100,000 pesos.

1308
01:21:34,055 --> 01:21:36,391
I was told they were holding a ceremony

1309
01:21:37,684 --> 01:21:39,811
in which I would get an award.

1310
01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:43,815
He would actually be deemed a hero
just like the preventive police officers.

1311
01:21:44,608 --> 01:21:46,735
We give you this award
and our congratulations.

1312
01:21:47,235 --> 01:21:49,112
-Good luck.
-Buy us something.

1313
01:21:49,195 --> 01:21:52,365
-Were you afraid?
-No, because it's our job.

1314
01:21:52,449 --> 01:21:56,036
It's your job. How did catching
this serial killer change your lives?

1315
01:21:56,119 --> 01:21:58,830
It's mostly personal satisfaction.
It's all personal.

1316
01:21:58,914 --> 01:22:01,291
-What did they tell you at home?
-"Congratulations."

1317
01:22:01,374 --> 01:22:03,335
-Your kids. Do you have kids?
-Yes, one.

1318
01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:04,502
-How old?
-Six.

1319
01:22:04,586 --> 01:22:06,254
-Six. He's young, right?
-Yes.

1320
01:22:06,338 --> 01:22:08,548
-What did your wife tell you?
-"Congratulations."

1321
01:22:08,632 --> 01:22:11,468
My siblings, my mom, even my neighbors.

1322
01:22:11,551 --> 01:22:13,637
When we did interviews,

1323
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,515
people asked us to pose
for a photo with their kids.

1324
01:22:17,599 --> 01:22:20,685
In fact, a grandma once told me

1325
01:22:20,769 --> 01:22:23,855
that she had lit a votive candle for me.
"I lit a candle for you."

1326
01:22:23,939 --> 01:22:27,901
I got this medal from Congress.

1327
01:22:29,361 --> 01:22:33,907
We also received
the Police Achievement Award.

1328
01:22:34,532 --> 01:22:36,034
And as financial reward,

1329
01:22:36,117 --> 01:22:38,536
we each received 100,000 pesos
and an apartment.

1330
01:22:39,162 --> 01:22:40,205
That's what we…

1331
01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:45,293
And they suddenly said,

1332
01:22:46,544 --> 01:22:49,339
"You were instrumental. You were a hero."

1333
01:22:50,173 --> 01:22:51,758
But I don't see it that way.

1334
01:22:54,302 --> 01:22:55,887
I would have wanted…

1335
01:22:57,555 --> 01:22:59,224
to rescue her.

1336
01:23:04,771 --> 01:23:08,066
Everything about the crime!
She killed the grandmas.

1337
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:10,276
It's in the newspaper!

1338
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,155
According to her neighbors,
Juana Barraza was a normal woman.

1339
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:15,907
She lived with her two children.

1340
01:23:15,991 --> 01:23:18,785
Like any other woman,
she had her hair cut two months ago

1341
01:23:18,868 --> 01:23:20,787
at the salon near her home.

1342
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:24,207
I cut it and didn't want to dye it
because it was brittle.

1343
01:23:24,290 --> 01:23:27,252
I found it odd
that she wanted a new look every week.

1344
01:23:27,335 --> 01:23:31,673
And she had like a lower back injury
because she couldn't walk properly.

1345
01:23:31,756 --> 01:23:33,675
Even though she's been detained,

1346
01:23:33,758 --> 01:23:35,427
the neighbors are afraid.

1347
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:38,930
In a way, I'm very afraid
because just imagine.

1348
01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:42,100
This is where
she had been living the last six months.

1349
01:23:42,183 --> 01:23:44,936
According to some neighbors,
she was a very lonesome woman

1350
01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:48,189
who did not interact
with any of the other residents.

1351
01:23:54,738 --> 01:23:57,032
Her whole place was painted red.

1352
01:23:58,241 --> 01:24:00,326
A total mess,

1353
01:24:00,410 --> 01:24:03,788
and the bedrooms were full of objects.

1354
01:24:03,872 --> 01:24:05,915
There were beds,
and you couldn't walk around

1355
01:24:05,999 --> 01:24:09,753
because of all the bags, shoes,
and clothes that were scattered.

1356
01:24:12,922 --> 01:24:15,383
On the right side of the entrance,

1357
01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:18,553
there was an altar
dedicated to the Holy Death.

1358
01:24:34,027 --> 01:24:38,031
There was a framed photo
in the living room.

1359
01:24:38,865 --> 01:24:40,366
What size?

1360
01:24:40,450 --> 01:24:43,828
Like 80 centimeters, so like a poster.

1361
01:24:43,912 --> 01:24:46,998
Of herself with her arms like this,

1362
01:24:47,082 --> 01:24:50,126
posing as a wrestler.

1363
01:24:54,422 --> 01:24:55,924
"MATAVIEJITAS"
CAPTURED

1364
01:24:56,007 --> 01:24:58,802
Yes, today's main story
is the "Mataviejitas."

1365
01:24:58,885 --> 01:25:02,555
The mysterious killer
turned out to be a female wrestler.

1366
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:04,682
She called herself "The Lady of Silence."

1367
01:25:04,766 --> 01:25:07,185
For a while,

1368
01:25:07,268 --> 01:25:10,480
she was a professional wrestler.

1369
01:25:10,563 --> 01:25:12,482
She was called "The Lady of Silence."

1370
01:25:13,233 --> 01:25:14,359
"The Lady of Silence."

1371
01:25:15,068 --> 01:25:16,736
"The Lady of Silence."

1372
01:25:16,820 --> 01:25:20,198
"The Lady of Silence."
That was her nickname.

1373
01:25:21,825 --> 01:25:24,285
Well, we all wanted to learn more,

1374
01:25:24,369 --> 01:25:29,624
so we decided to go to the San Juan Arena.

1375
01:25:29,707 --> 01:25:32,210
Ladies and gentlemen,
there is wrestling tonight!

1376
01:25:32,293 --> 01:25:35,296
We have great fights lined up.
Heels versus Faces!

1377
01:25:35,380 --> 01:25:38,883
I have a question for you. Are you ready?

1378
01:25:38,967 --> 01:25:43,763
The Lady of Silence!

1379
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:46,850
THE LADY OF SILENCE

1380
01:25:52,856 --> 01:25:57,277
We were sort of friends…
when it came to partying.

1381
01:25:57,944 --> 01:26:00,238
We partied together all the time.

1382
01:26:00,321 --> 01:26:03,283
Like, "Are you dating that guy?
Then I'll date this one."

1383
01:26:03,366 --> 01:26:04,200
We were…

1384
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,661
We were wild.

1385
01:26:11,207 --> 01:26:14,085
She always said,
"What do you need? I'll come see you."

1386
01:26:14,169 --> 01:26:15,545
Yes, I really trusted her

1387
01:26:15,628 --> 01:26:19,465
because I even told her
about my personal problems.

1388
01:26:19,549 --> 01:26:21,676
I told her about my problems
with my daughter.

1389
01:26:21,759 --> 01:26:24,679
Lady!

1390
01:26:24,762 --> 01:26:26,431
But she never seemed angry.

1391
01:26:26,514 --> 01:26:28,933
There wasn't a trace of aggression in her.

1392
01:26:29,017 --> 01:26:31,895
She was a sweetheart.

1393
01:26:31,978 --> 01:26:35,523
Do it!

1394
01:26:35,607 --> 01:26:37,609
But I did find it odd

1395
01:26:37,692 --> 01:26:41,237
that she treated us to lunch
and paid a huge bill.

1396
01:26:41,321 --> 01:26:43,781
Yes, my pal carried quite a bit of money.

1397
01:26:53,249 --> 01:26:56,211
I found it strange
that she dyed her hair a lot.

1398
01:26:56,294 --> 01:26:58,588
I remember telling hair,
"Your hair will fall off."

1399
01:26:58,671 --> 01:27:00,298
She dyed it almost every month.

1400
01:27:00,965 --> 01:27:02,884
She dyed it blonde, red,

1401
01:27:03,384 --> 01:27:04,636
brown.

1402
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,596
And she moved often.

1403
01:27:07,263 --> 01:27:08,806
Just last Friday,

1404
01:27:08,890 --> 01:27:11,392
there was a story in the midday newscast

1405
01:27:11,476 --> 01:27:14,979
that makes you wonder
about life's surprises.

1406
01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:18,858
That's right.
That woman that was wrestling that day

1407
01:27:18,942 --> 01:27:21,736
is the "Mataviejitas."

1408
01:27:21,819 --> 01:27:24,280
It seems like an act of defiance

1409
01:27:24,364 --> 01:27:26,991
that the woman most wanted by the police

1410
01:27:27,075 --> 01:27:30,328
whose composite sketch
was all over the country

1411
01:27:30,411 --> 01:27:32,872
would dare to appear on television.

1412
01:27:32,956 --> 01:27:35,166
In cold blood, the alleged killer

1413
01:27:35,250 --> 01:27:38,211
of, at least, ten old ladies,

1414
01:27:38,294 --> 01:27:41,798
said before our cameras
last Tuesday, January 17,

1415
01:27:41,881 --> 01:27:43,758
that she is very, very tough.

1416
01:27:43,841 --> 01:27:45,385
Never…

1417
01:27:45,969 --> 01:27:50,390
I never suspected that she was…

1418
01:27:50,932 --> 01:27:51,933
That it was her.

1419
01:27:52,016 --> 01:27:56,646
And my mom and I were watching TV,
and when she saw her…

1420
01:27:56,729 --> 01:27:58,856
I looked at my mom

1421
01:27:58,940 --> 01:28:01,943
and she said,
"Oh, honey. That's your friend."

1422
01:28:02,610 --> 01:28:05,405
"See? And you used to bring her here."

1423
01:28:05,488 --> 01:28:08,241
And when she was caught, I missed her.

1424
01:28:08,324 --> 01:28:12,495
And my family used to say, "Don't say
she's your friend. Aren't you ashamed?"

1425
01:28:12,578 --> 01:28:14,163
"Why would I be?"

1426
01:28:14,247 --> 01:28:17,583
THE LADY OF SILENCE

1427
01:28:20,420 --> 01:28:21,963
"The Lady of Silence."

1428
01:28:22,046 --> 01:28:24,882
That is a Face name.

1429
01:28:24,966 --> 01:28:26,009
It's not a Heel name.

1430
01:28:26,884 --> 01:28:28,344
But she was quite tough.

1431
01:28:28,428 --> 01:28:32,640
Maybe when you learn
that she's The Lady of Silence

1432
01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,475
it's because she was keeping a secret.

1433
01:28:35,143 --> 01:28:38,855
Strangely enough, when she quit wrestling
due to a back injury…

1434
01:28:39,522 --> 01:28:41,941
She used to lift 100-kilogram weights.

1435
01:28:42,025 --> 01:28:44,527
When she quit wrestling,
she started killing.

1436
01:28:44,610 --> 01:28:48,197
So, I think she unloaded
a large part of her frustrations

1437
01:28:48,281 --> 01:28:50,742
that came from that awful early childhood

1438
01:28:50,825 --> 01:28:53,036
through wrestling.

1439
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:56,539
I think she always dreamed
of becoming a wrestler.

1440
01:28:57,874 --> 01:28:59,751
But she was never a wrestler.

1441
01:29:00,668 --> 01:29:02,045
She never set foot in a ring.

1442
01:29:03,087 --> 01:29:04,380
I asked several wrestlers,

1443
01:29:04,464 --> 01:29:06,674
"Did you ever fight against
The Lady of Silence?"

1444
01:29:06,758 --> 01:29:08,051
"No, never."

1445
01:29:09,052 --> 01:29:11,929
She liked being
in the wrestling environment.

1446
01:29:12,013 --> 01:29:16,142
She had her own costume made,
but she wasn't a wrestler.

1447
01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:19,979
Anybody
can have wrestling gear custom-made.

1448
01:29:20,688 --> 01:29:23,066
And anybody can buy a championship.

1449
01:29:34,243 --> 01:29:36,245
Come on, Lady!

1450
01:29:37,830 --> 01:29:39,832
Come on, Lady!

1451
01:29:41,084 --> 01:29:42,085
Come on!

1452
01:29:43,169 --> 01:29:45,171
The Lady of Silence never existed.

1453
01:29:48,174 --> 01:29:51,636
The Lady of Silence could spend
the rest of her life behind bars

1454
01:29:51,719 --> 01:29:53,763
because she was charged this afternoon

1455
01:29:53,846 --> 01:29:55,264
with at least 11 homicides.

1456
01:29:55,348 --> 01:29:58,059
These are horrible crimes
that have shaken us.

1457
01:29:59,852 --> 01:30:02,021
When I was writing
about the Juana Barraza case,

1458
01:30:02,105 --> 01:30:05,191
I realized that she gave
the media and the police

1459
01:30:05,274 --> 01:30:07,485
the perfect sensationalist story.

1460
01:30:08,820 --> 01:30:11,364
portraying Juana Barraza
as a psychopath

1461
01:30:11,447 --> 01:30:13,783
because of her muscular body,

1462
01:30:13,866 --> 01:30:17,328
which is always described this way
because she is stocky,

1463
01:30:17,412 --> 01:30:19,831
because of her love of wrestling

1464
01:30:19,914 --> 01:30:21,624
as The Lady of Silence,

1465
01:30:21,707 --> 01:30:24,544
and not so much
because of the crimes she committed.

1466
01:30:25,461 --> 01:30:28,881
Her criminality was described
as something she was born with,

1467
01:30:28,965 --> 01:30:30,633
something innate.

1468
01:30:30,716 --> 01:30:33,177
It has been proven that criminality

1469
01:30:33,261 --> 01:30:34,929
is not apparent on someone's face.

1470
01:30:35,012 --> 01:30:37,432
Therefore,
judging somebody by their looks,

1471
01:30:37,515 --> 01:30:39,183
by their gaze, by their features,

1472
01:30:39,267 --> 01:30:42,437
ends up being very dangerous criteria

1473
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,440
as a basis on which to build
a criminal's profile.

1474
01:31:09,213 --> 01:31:10,381
On the day…

1475
01:31:12,508 --> 01:31:15,970
I had to go to courthouse 67
in Santa Martha,

1476
01:31:17,013 --> 01:31:20,099
I was a meter and a half away
from a glass window.

1477
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:22,685
She was behind that window.

1478
01:31:26,022 --> 01:31:28,024
And she seemed bigger

1479
01:31:28,566 --> 01:31:32,403
than the way she was described
as a big, stocky person.

1480
01:31:32,487 --> 01:31:33,654
Well…

1481
01:31:34,489 --> 01:31:38,784
A very hefty, very strong person

1482
01:31:40,328 --> 01:31:41,871
with a strong personality.

1483
01:31:41,954 --> 01:31:44,582
She seems like a mother… Sorry.

1484
01:31:44,665 --> 01:31:45,917
Like this.

1485
01:31:50,463 --> 01:31:52,882
And on top of what she did to me,

1486
01:31:53,841 --> 01:31:57,386
she took away my mom,
my grandma, my Mane,

1487
01:31:57,887 --> 01:32:00,389
she told me,
"Yes, but you left her alone."

1488
01:32:04,060 --> 01:32:05,853
I couldn't take it anymore.

1489
01:32:05,937 --> 01:32:08,773
I had just been to the restroom.
I went outside to throw up.

1490
01:32:10,316 --> 01:32:12,318
I knew she wouldn't do anything to me,

1491
01:32:13,611 --> 01:32:14,779
but she did.

1492
01:32:15,947 --> 01:32:18,407
The hearing
was canceled that day because…

1493
01:32:19,825 --> 01:32:20,701
I couldn't do it.

1494
01:32:21,786 --> 01:32:23,246
I didn't feel any hatred.

1495
01:32:23,329 --> 01:32:26,999
Honestly. I didn't feel any hatred
because I've asked God

1496
01:32:27,083 --> 01:32:30,002
to help me let go of that part of me.

1497
01:32:30,711 --> 01:32:33,714
I just blurted, "May God forgive you."

1498
01:32:34,924 --> 01:32:36,551
"Really, may God forgive you."

1499
01:32:38,386 --> 01:32:41,055
And she stared at me, surprised.

1500
01:32:44,392 --> 01:32:46,227
And I just remember she said,

1501
01:32:47,812 --> 01:32:49,313
"Do you know who my God is?"

1502
01:32:49,897 --> 01:32:51,649
I said, "I don't."

1503
01:32:52,942 --> 01:32:55,236
And she took out a card of the Holy Death.

1504
01:32:56,529 --> 01:32:59,282
She said, "This is my God
and she protects me."

1505
01:33:00,283 --> 01:33:01,617
I said, "That's great!"

1506
01:33:02,952 --> 01:33:04,620
"I'm glad she protects you."

1507
01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:10,001
And I don't know why I told her,

1508
01:33:11,877 --> 01:33:13,504
"You haven't hurt me."

1509
01:33:15,214 --> 01:33:18,175
"But you've hurt your children the most."

1510
01:33:19,844 --> 01:33:22,680
And she turned around and left.

1511
01:33:31,606 --> 01:33:34,442
The accused,
Juana Barraza Samperio,

1512
01:33:34,525 --> 01:33:36,736
was given a sentence

1513
01:33:36,819 --> 01:33:40,781
of 759 years and 17 days of prison.

1514
01:33:42,116 --> 01:33:43,534
I don't agree.

1515
01:33:44,368 --> 01:33:45,828
I don't agree with anything.

1516
01:33:48,205 --> 01:33:53,085
At the courthouse,
behind the cubicle for the defendants,

1517
01:33:54,045 --> 01:33:55,755
the names of all the persons

1518
01:33:55,838 --> 01:33:59,342
that she allegedly killed are being read.

1519
01:33:59,425 --> 01:34:01,802
She was very calm.

1520
01:34:01,886 --> 01:34:07,391
The names were being read,
and I remember that she said,

1521
01:34:07,475 --> 01:34:10,186
"Add some more, come on."

1522
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:13,814
"Seeing as I'm your patsy. Who cares?
Add some more."

1523
01:34:15,775 --> 01:34:18,361
Juana Barraza Samperio,
known as the "Mataviejitas,"

1524
01:34:18,444 --> 01:34:20,863
was sentenced to 759 years in prison.

1525
01:34:20,946 --> 01:34:23,491
…for the murder of 17 women

1526
01:34:23,574 --> 01:34:25,368
and 12 more charges for burglary.

1527
01:34:25,451 --> 01:34:27,203
The so-called "Lady of Silence"

1528
01:34:27,286 --> 01:34:28,704
says she'll appeal the verdict.

1529
01:34:28,788 --> 01:34:30,956
That sentence

1530
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,460
was part of the sense of justice

1531
01:34:34,543 --> 01:34:37,713
that the government
wanted to give to the people.

1532
01:34:38,297 --> 01:34:40,299
It's a political sentence.

1533
01:34:41,050 --> 01:34:43,219
It's a medieval sentence

1534
01:34:44,595 --> 01:34:48,349
because its goal
is to have an impact on public opinion,

1535
01:34:48,432 --> 01:34:50,309
not to be an effective sentence.

1536
01:34:50,893 --> 01:34:54,313
Women who kill in Mexico
and in the rest of the world

1537
01:34:54,397 --> 01:34:57,525
consistently get the longest sentences,

1538
01:34:57,608 --> 01:35:00,361
because they aren't punished
for what they did,

1539
01:35:00,444 --> 01:35:03,030
but because they are thought
to be evil by nature.

1540
01:35:03,114 --> 01:35:05,074
And that sentence, at the same time,

1541
01:35:05,157 --> 01:35:09,078
serves as a warning for other women.

1542
01:35:12,123 --> 01:35:16,293
Araceli Vázquez,
one of the alleged "Mataviejitas"

1543
01:35:16,377 --> 01:35:18,462
has been in prison for 19 years,

1544
01:35:18,546 --> 01:35:21,132
with no homicides proven against her.

1545
01:35:30,266 --> 01:35:33,644
Some years
after my arrest, I was in prison

1546
01:35:33,728 --> 01:35:35,896
when my fellow inmates told me,

1547
01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:38,607
"The 'Mataviejitos' was just detained."

1548
01:35:38,691 --> 01:35:42,236
I was shocked and said,
"Why? Didn't they say it was me?"

1549
01:35:44,238 --> 01:35:45,448
I always stole things,

1550
01:35:45,531 --> 01:35:48,743
but it had nothing to do
with that situation.

1551
01:35:48,826 --> 01:35:52,997
And she was found
in possession of some objects

1552
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,584
or belongings
of people who had been robbed.

1553
01:35:56,667 --> 01:35:58,502
And they claimed,

1554
01:35:58,586 --> 01:36:01,380
"She is the "Mataviejitos."
Araceli is the killer."

1555
01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:05,718
And they booked me at a press conference
with more than 70 news outlets.

1556
01:36:08,053 --> 01:36:10,347
She was introduced
wearing a wig.

1557
01:36:11,265 --> 01:36:14,101
Who knows which of those crazy minds

1558
01:36:14,185 --> 01:36:17,688
in the investigation police unit

1559
01:36:17,772 --> 01:36:21,108
came up with the idea of the wig.

1560
01:36:21,192 --> 01:36:25,029
They said, "Make her wear this
to make it more appealing, okay?"

1561
01:36:25,112 --> 01:36:27,823
And they were going crazy
at the press conference.

1562
01:36:27,907 --> 01:36:28,949
They decided

1563
01:36:29,909 --> 01:36:32,161
to create a soap opera.

1564
01:36:34,663 --> 01:36:37,208
Prosecutor Zayas said,

1565
01:36:37,792 --> 01:36:41,670
"Araceli will get away with the robberies,
so add the homicides."

1566
01:36:41,754 --> 01:36:42,838
"It's 42 years."

1567
01:36:42,922 --> 01:36:45,382
"No, you can't do this.
I didn't kill anyone."

1568
01:36:45,466 --> 01:36:47,384
I kept saying that I hadn't killed anyone.

1569
01:36:47,468 --> 01:36:50,888
"No, it's her. Record it, get her ready.
She's going straight to prison."

1570
01:36:50,971 --> 01:36:54,141
"I'M A THIEF, NOT A MURDERER"

1571
01:36:54,225 --> 01:36:56,352
SHE DENIES HAVING KILLED GRANDMAS

1572
01:36:56,435 --> 01:36:57,478
SHE CLAIMS SHE'S INNOCENT

1573
01:36:57,561 --> 01:36:59,939
The witness said, "It's not her."

1574
01:37:00,022 --> 01:37:03,984
"The person I saw was tall,
with short hair and broad back."

1575
01:37:04,068 --> 01:37:05,402
"Fair skin."

1576
01:37:05,486 --> 01:37:06,695
"This lady has dark skin."

1577
01:37:06,779 --> 01:37:07,863
"She's short."

1578
01:37:07,947 --> 01:37:09,949
"These people were looking
for someone tall,

1579
01:37:10,032 --> 01:37:11,784
with big hands."

1580
01:37:11,867 --> 01:37:12,952
"And that's not her."

1581
01:37:13,577 --> 01:37:17,832
Did Araceli Vázquez
match the suspect's profile?

1582
01:37:18,833 --> 01:37:20,376
No, not 100%.

1583
01:37:22,127 --> 01:37:23,379
Let's say not 100%,

1584
01:37:24,004 --> 01:37:27,216
but our duty was

1585
01:37:29,009 --> 01:37:30,886
to investigate all the evidence we had.

1586
01:37:31,762 --> 01:37:34,640
They had me
at the Reclusorio Oriente prison,

1587
01:37:34,723 --> 01:37:37,476
and three or four people
were being murdered every day.

1588
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,229
So, I'd run up
to the warden's office and say,

1589
01:37:40,312 --> 01:37:41,689
"More have been killed."

1590
01:37:41,772 --> 01:37:42,857
"It's not me!"

1591
01:37:45,067 --> 01:37:46,360
At the beginning,

1592
01:37:46,443 --> 01:37:48,779
Araceli Vázquez was linked
to several cases.

1593
01:37:48,863 --> 01:37:52,032
Among them,
the murder of Mrs. Gloria Rizo.

1594
01:37:52,992 --> 01:37:56,203
The evidence
is that they allegedly found some jewelry

1595
01:37:56,287 --> 01:37:58,080
that Araceli stole from Mrs. Gloria.

1596
01:37:58,956 --> 01:38:05,921
Araceli said, "My fingerprints
are not at any of the crime scenes."

1597
01:38:06,005 --> 01:38:07,756
"My fingerprints don't match

1598
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,678
the murders that we would later learn
were committed by someone else."

1599
01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:16,891
When Juana Barraza was captured,

1600
01:38:16,974 --> 01:38:21,103
they just said, "The fingerprint matches
the one on the glass that you brought us."

1601
01:38:21,896 --> 01:38:24,189
They told me.
They even gave me an official letter.

1602
01:38:24,273 --> 01:38:28,027
That she was solely guilty

1603
01:38:28,110 --> 01:38:30,654
of her homicide,
and the homicide of many others.

1604
01:38:34,617 --> 01:38:38,704
They never mentioned Araceli Vázquez again

1605
01:38:38,787 --> 01:38:41,290
and they never said,
"We'll release her…" No.

1606
01:38:41,373 --> 01:38:45,711
So, nothing. I wasn't in touch with her
or anybody else.

1607
01:38:45,794 --> 01:38:49,590
I assumed
that if they found the other woman,

1608
01:38:49,673 --> 01:38:53,135
then Araceli would be released right away.

1609
01:38:53,677 --> 01:38:55,346
That did not happen.

1610
01:38:55,429 --> 01:38:57,890
Later on, the investigation results showed

1611
01:38:57,973 --> 01:39:01,268
that she wasn't the person
we were looking for.

1612
01:39:01,352 --> 01:39:02,436
A faulty case.

1613
01:39:02,978 --> 01:39:07,024
Not really, because she's still
serving a prison sentence.

1614
01:39:08,567 --> 01:39:11,695
Perhaps on other charges.
I can't remember.

1615
01:39:11,779 --> 01:39:15,407
-You don't remember Araceli?
-Was that a Homicide Prosecutor's case?

1616
01:39:15,491 --> 01:39:18,661
No, I honestly don't remember that case.

1617
01:39:21,205 --> 01:39:24,875
Araceli has served her sentence
of 17 years and 9 months for burglary.

1618
01:39:24,959 --> 01:39:27,878
And now she's serving a sentence
of 23 additional years

1619
01:39:27,962 --> 01:39:31,090
for the murder of Margarita Aceves
in the Cuitlahuac residential unit.

1620
01:39:31,173 --> 01:39:35,886
Reading the file, there's no evidence
that links her to this homicide,

1621
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:38,138
the fingerprints don't match,

1622
01:39:38,222 --> 01:39:41,350
or the physical appearance
described by witnesses.

1623
01:39:41,433 --> 01:39:45,396
In fact, no witness ever
picked her out of a lineup.

1624
01:39:47,982 --> 01:39:50,317
I just want to clarify

1625
01:39:50,401 --> 01:39:52,736
that I did not kill those people.

1626
01:39:52,820 --> 01:39:54,613
And the evidence is there.

1627
01:39:54,697 --> 01:39:57,157
I've kept silent for 18 years.

1628
01:39:57,241 --> 01:40:00,077
If there's a judicial error,
it needs to be remedied.

1629
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,330
The current District Attorney's Office
would be responsible for that.

1630
01:40:03,414 --> 01:40:05,958
And also the judiciary.

1631
01:40:06,041 --> 01:40:08,669
If it turns…

1632
01:40:09,253 --> 01:40:13,674
If it turns out to be a judicial error,
there are mechanisms in place to solve it.

1633
01:40:13,757 --> 01:40:15,134
It's very unfortunate.

1634
01:40:15,217 --> 01:40:19,430
But one of the awful things
about investigations

1635
01:40:19,513 --> 01:40:22,725
is that errors are made,
and they should be acknowledged

1636
01:40:22,808 --> 01:40:24,643
and we should be able to remedy them.

1637
01:40:25,227 --> 01:40:26,603
It's not always done

1638
01:40:26,687 --> 01:40:28,897
for political or media purposes.

1639
01:40:28,981 --> 01:40:31,984
But one should be able to acknowledge
that an error was made.

1640
01:40:32,067 --> 01:40:35,529
It makes you think,
if there isn't enough evidence

1641
01:40:35,612 --> 01:40:39,199
to prove that a person is guilty,

1642
01:40:40,325 --> 01:40:43,662
why is that person
processed and sentenced?

1643
01:40:46,373 --> 01:40:48,042
They said that Mario Tablas

1644
01:40:48,125 --> 01:40:50,377
was linked to four murders.

1645
01:40:50,461 --> 01:40:52,212
Then seven, then nine.

1646
01:40:53,881 --> 01:40:55,591
And apparently, he didn't do them.

1647
01:40:55,674 --> 01:41:00,095
Just like Araceli, he said,
"My fingerprints were not there."

1648
01:41:00,179 --> 01:41:02,890
We read in the official report

1649
01:41:02,973 --> 01:41:05,726
that one of the homicide cases

1650
01:41:05,809 --> 01:41:08,854
for which Mario
had actually been sentenced

1651
01:41:08,937 --> 01:41:11,315
actually matched

1652
01:41:11,398 --> 01:41:14,860
Juana Barraza's fingerprints
at the crime scene.

1653
01:41:15,986 --> 01:41:17,279
When we asked him

1654
01:41:18,906 --> 01:41:22,159
why the prosecutors filed
those murder charges,

1655
01:41:22,242 --> 01:41:23,243
he said,

1656
01:41:24,286 --> 01:41:26,163
"They fabricated guilty people."

1657
01:41:27,790 --> 01:41:30,709
Mario Tablas was sentenced
to almost 70 years in prison

1658
01:41:30,793 --> 01:41:32,753
for the murder of two old ladies.

1659
01:41:33,337 --> 01:41:35,464
The last I heard
was that he died in prison

1660
01:41:35,547 --> 01:41:38,008
and he always claimed he was innocent.

1661
01:41:38,092 --> 01:41:39,927
and without ever being released,

1662
01:41:42,596 --> 01:41:44,014
There's no perfect crime,

1663
01:41:44,098 --> 01:41:46,475
but there are imperfect investigations.

1664
01:41:46,558 --> 01:41:50,104
So those issues must be fixed,

1665
01:41:50,187 --> 01:41:52,981
because they contribute to impunity.

1666
01:41:54,733 --> 01:41:58,487
Juana Barraza
is at the Santa Martha Acatitla prison

1667
01:41:58,570 --> 01:42:03,700
serving her sentence
for killing 16 old ladies

1668
01:42:03,784 --> 01:42:05,744
and robbing 12 more.

1669
01:42:05,828 --> 01:42:07,955
Due to her good behavior,
she's been given

1670
01:42:08,038 --> 01:42:11,583
permission to cook
on Tuesdays and sell her food,

1671
01:42:11,667 --> 01:42:14,711
and therefore have an income in prison.

1672
01:42:15,295 --> 01:42:18,173
We know that she got married in 2015

1673
01:42:18,257 --> 01:42:20,134
and later got divorced.

1674
01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:24,263
I decided to get in touch with Juana.

1675
01:42:25,097 --> 01:42:27,182
I approached her very cautiously.

1676
01:42:27,266 --> 01:42:29,560
I said, "How are you?
I am Claudia Bolaños,

1677
01:42:29,643 --> 01:42:31,687
a reporter from El Universal."

1678
01:42:31,770 --> 01:42:34,231
And she said, "I don't give interviews."

1679
01:42:34,857 --> 01:42:37,276
"If I give one, I'll charge 10,000 pesos."

1680
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,906
I went to Santa Martha to see her.

1681
01:42:42,990 --> 01:42:45,075
I was shocked to see…

1682
01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:49,788
it wasn't exactly respect,
but more like fear from the guards.

1683
01:42:49,872 --> 01:42:51,790
They would make room for her and say,

1684
01:42:51,874 --> 01:42:53,625
"Mrs. Juana, how are you?"

1685
01:42:53,709 --> 01:42:55,043
"Ma'am, go ahead."

1686
01:42:55,127 --> 01:42:58,505
She's become kind of a celebrity.

1687
01:42:58,589 --> 01:43:01,216
Or she is a celebrity that has

1688
01:43:01,884 --> 01:43:05,888
a certain social status in prison.

1689
01:43:06,930 --> 01:43:10,267
I think about how people,

1690
01:43:11,476 --> 01:43:14,897
when they hear the term "Mataviejitas"
these days…

1691
01:43:16,982 --> 01:43:20,402
possibly think of a legend or myth.

1692
01:43:21,153 --> 01:43:23,947
And that, just like any legend,

1693
01:43:24,031 --> 01:43:26,950
it feeds off truths

1694
01:43:27,534 --> 01:43:29,161
and lies,

1695
01:43:29,244 --> 01:43:32,206
and the police like to tell stories.

1696
01:43:33,207 --> 01:43:38,003
The media also likes a good narrative.

1697
01:43:39,087 --> 01:43:42,716
A story… with many elements.

1698
01:43:43,258 --> 01:43:47,804
And also the people, the society in Mexico

1699
01:43:47,888 --> 01:43:50,474
actually loves being told stories.

1700
01:43:54,228 --> 01:43:55,354
THE "MATAVIEJITAS"

1701
01:43:55,437 --> 01:43:56,271
CLOSE MURDERER

1702
01:43:58,398 --> 01:43:59,566
TOUGH AT HEART

1703
01:43:59,650 --> 01:44:00,692
THE "MATAVIEJITAS"

1704
01:44:00,776 --> 01:44:02,194
CLOSE MURDERER

1705
01:44:04,821 --> 01:44:06,031
16 OLD LADIES

1706
01:44:16,959 --> 01:44:19,044
The first serial killer, and it's a woman.

1707
01:44:19,127 --> 01:44:21,922
And it happens in Mexico City,
with old ladies.

1708
01:44:22,005 --> 01:44:23,757
Of course it was a high-profile case.

1709
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,635
It was so high-profile,
that you're interviewing me right now,

1710
01:44:26,718 --> 01:44:28,887
20 years later.

1711
01:44:28,971 --> 01:44:30,180
To sell more.

1712
01:44:30,889 --> 01:44:32,766
That's why it becomes high-profile.

1713
01:44:32,849 --> 01:44:35,852
Songs, corridos and cumbias
were written about her.

1714
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:49,032
A criminal was turned into a celebrity.

1715
01:44:51,118 --> 01:44:54,955
So she was the "Mataviejitas,"
and the wrestler, and…

1716
01:44:55,998 --> 01:44:57,416
So many things. I think,

1717
01:44:58,083 --> 01:45:00,836
"What about the victims?"

1718
01:45:01,753 --> 01:45:04,464
Victim one, victim two, victim three.

1719
01:45:05,507 --> 01:45:08,218
There's a murder and they talk more
about how they killed,

1720
01:45:08,302 --> 01:45:10,512
how they did it, what they stole from her,

1721
01:45:10,595 --> 01:45:11,763
instead of talking

1722
01:45:12,597 --> 01:45:14,641
about who the murdered person was.

1723
01:45:16,143 --> 01:45:19,229
They are forgotten,
but not by their families.

1724
01:45:19,730 --> 01:45:21,023
They're still there,

1725
01:45:21,523 --> 01:45:24,860
possibly demanding justice
years after the fact.

1726
01:45:25,402 --> 01:45:28,447
And I think that they also deserve

1727
01:45:28,530 --> 01:45:31,408
that the investigations continue,
that justice is served.

1728
01:45:31,992 --> 01:45:32,909
The victim

1729
01:45:34,578 --> 01:45:35,704
is a loser

1730
01:45:37,164 --> 01:45:39,291
in the duel for life.

1731
01:45:40,667 --> 01:45:41,752
Awful, right?

1732
01:45:43,211 --> 01:45:47,174
After each person's murder…

1733
01:45:51,762 --> 01:45:53,430
there is great pain.

1734
01:45:53,513 --> 01:45:54,681
And people

1735
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aren't aware that they leave…

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That they leave behind holes
in the lives of people.

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Juana Barraza,
also known as "Mataviejitas"

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will spend the rest of her life
behind bars.

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The police recorded
49 cases of elderly women

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that were strangled
with the same modus operandi

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between 1998 and 2006.

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Juana Barraza
was only charged with 17 homicides,

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but 32 murders remain
unsolved to this day.

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It's 8:04.

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THE VICTIMS
1998 - 1999 - 2001 - 2002

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THE VICTIMS
2003

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THE VICTIMS
2004

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THE VICTIMS
2005 - 2006