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 - [Zach] I'm gonna record now. 

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 - [Taka] Okay.                 

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 - [Zach] Okay.                 

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Because?                        

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 - [Zach] Okay.                 

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- [Zach] Do you remember        

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just like meeting me and        
 when that all happened?        

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(car revving)                   

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- Yeah, we dropped another      
  shelter off yesterday.        

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 (garage door whirring)         

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 But did get a complaint        
 from the neighbors.            

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So now we can't have the garage 
open while we're building.      

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 So everyone has to be. (laughs)

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So it's gonna be,               
yeah, a little tight.           

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(plastic crumpling)             

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 (loud thudding)                

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Oh, man, I just smacked my head.

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 (mellow music)                 

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(rapid thumping)                

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 (saw whirring)                 

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(rapid thumping)                

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(drill whirring)                

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 (saw whirring)                 

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 (mellow music)                 

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 (loud clicking)                

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 - [Radio Announcer 1] Well,    
 the pandemic has had an impact 

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on all Canadians,               

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  but it's hit those on a       
low income especially hard.     

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There's now a growing concern   

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that the number of homeless     
people in Canada may go up.     

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- [Radio Announcer 2]           
Visible encampments now,        

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number more than a              
hundred in Toronto              

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because of the pandemic and     
there are worries they'll grow. 

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- [Radio Announcer 3] The       
city of Toronto tells us        

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they are currently              
 providing shelter              

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to more than 7,500              
people each night.              

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But according to the            
latest city data,               

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 many of these shelters         
are at over 99% capacity,       

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including warming centers.      

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 - [Radio Interviewee] I        
had to turn away 12 women       

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into the cold because there     
was nothing left in the system. 

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No violence against             
  women's spaces,               

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no homeless shelter spaces.     

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All I could do was              
give them a blanket             

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and ask them to stay            
 somewhere close by.            

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- [Khaleel] Yeah.               
Waiting for the cops            

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   to show up and be like,      
what the fuck are you doing?    

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Yeah, that's my worst concern   
 every time I come through.     

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Every single time.              

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 (loud sighing)                 

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(melancholic music)             

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 - [Khaleel] Can you            
 push it over the hump?         

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Woo.                            

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Okay.                           

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Oh.                             

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I think one of the              
wheels isn't gonna turn.        

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- [Zach] Do you remember        
the first night?                

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- [Taka] Yep.                   

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(melancholic music)             

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 (saw whirring)                 

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 (saw whirring)                 

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(upbeat jazz music)             

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 (loud thumping)                

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 - [Khaleel] I'm tired.         

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(Khaleel laughs)                

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- Oh, shit, dude,               
I saw you on CBC.               

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 We were gonna like, try        
  and reach out to you          

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 about the tiny houses.         

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- That's really cool.           

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- [Neighbor] That's             
   awesome, man.                

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- Fuck yeah.                    

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- Oh my God.                    
   - Yeah.                      

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Very cool.                      
- There's a GoFundMe page.      

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- Yeah. Okay, cool.             

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 - [Tony] So he's gonna be      
over here for a little bit.     

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- Are you building here?        

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 - [Khaleel] Yeah. Yeah.        

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- Are you kidding me?           

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 - That's amazing, dude.        

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Yes, Tony.                      

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(Khaleel laughs)                

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 Tony's a great landlord        

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 and I know he'll treat         
  you guys really well          

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because this is important.      
 - That's awesome.              

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- Our city is in                
crisis right now                

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with the amount of homelessness.

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- But we got lots of, lots of   
places they can stay though.    

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They just don't want to.        

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- Yeah. Some people             
  don't want to--               

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- Yeah. But there's also        
a pandemic happening            

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and those like, the             
services aren't, you know?      

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 - Yeah.                        
 - If you looked inside         

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 one of those homeless shelters,

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   they're tough.               
- Not the homeless shelters.    

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They wanna give them hotels,    
   actual hotels, spares,       

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spare rooms and everything else.

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 - That's great.                

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 - There's certain              
conditions with it as well.     

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- [Tony] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm sure there is.              

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(foreboding music)              

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- [Zach] Talk more              
about it, will you?             

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 (saw whirring)                 

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 (saw whirring)                 

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 (phone dinging)                

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- Partnership discussion.       

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 "I work at the city of Toronto 

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and I have been following       
 your progress and story        

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since October 2nd.              

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And I'm very happy to hear      
that outpouring of support      

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for people living               
outside. You're inspiring       
a lot of people.                

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I'd like to have a              
 meeting with you,              

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   be able to discuss the       
possibility of a partnership.   

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The city has some problems      

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and you're obviously            
  very innovative.              

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Just gaging your interest       
   in such a meeting,           

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hoping that we can              
have a discussion."             

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 That's so interesting.         
  That is interesting.          

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 "Please let me know            
 if you are interested.         

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My availability is variable,    

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so if you can send me           
a few dates and times           

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 that work for you,             
if you're interested,           

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of course, then I can try       
to make something work."        

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We're City Toronto              
first response. (laughs)        

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 It's like, let's work together.

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That's interesting. I feel      
  so much less stressed.        

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Wow.                            

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 - [Companion 1] I mean,        

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 it seems good that             
they're reaching out.           

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- For the first time.           

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- [Companion 1] Like,           
it means that they're           

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   really paying                
attention, I guess.             

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 - Yeah.                        

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 And like, I like               
that he says like,              

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"On behalf of the               
City of Toronto."               

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It's like they're speaking      
  as the city of Toronto.       

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It's like, this is our response.

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It's like, "Okay, we            
wanna work with you."           

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It's like, that is fucking cool.

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 (keys jiggling)                

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- [Zach] Where are you gonna be?

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 Where is it okay for me to be? 

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- I'm gonna be right here.      

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It's 4:15.                      

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Enter the meeting password.     

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Oh my God.                      

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Okay.                           

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- [Operator] Okay.              
 One quick second.              

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I'm gonna merge you in. Okay?   

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- Oh, okay.                     

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- [Community Manager]           
   You know, Zach,              

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 I guess is doing a documentary 

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or something and he wanted to   
film the conversation today.    

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And so, you know,               

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in terms of port and from       
  the city perspective,         

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we have to go through approvals 
for those kind of things.       

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  So we don't have              
approval to do that.            

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And so like they,               

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you know, just to               
make sure, like,                

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can you confirm that it's       
  just the three of us.         

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 Is there anyone else there     
are on the call on your end?    

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- No, it's just me.             

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 - [Program Manager] You        
 know, in terms of like,        

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 you know, camping in parks     
and on right of way passages.   

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There's a city by-law that      
  doesn't allow for that.       

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That includes, you know,        

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tents, but as well as           
like the structures,            

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you know, that you've built.    

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 Do you have a name             
for them, by the way?           

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- I guess I've been             
calling them tiny shelters.     

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- [Program Manager]             
You know, hats off.             

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I'm really, really impressed    
  with what you have done,      

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just personally and             
professionally to be some,      

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you know, a humble guy that     
  grew up in Scarborough,       

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 did some construction,         

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knows how to do something       
  and put it into play.         

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I'm really, really impressed    

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  and I think that your heart's 
 definitely in the right place. 

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- If it's like -10, -15,        

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 like, you're gonna want        
a consistent heat source        

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 unless you're going to         
be somewhere that's warm.       

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And I guess, the shelters       
   that I'm building,           

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  these are designed to         
 be heated by your body.        

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It's like,                      

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they will have somewhere        
that's consistently warm.       

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 - [Program Manager] This       
is, you know, like I said,      

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 the first of hopefully many    
 conversations where we can try 

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 to figure out where            
 this partnership lies,         

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if there is a partnership.      

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 And I really hope that there is

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 because I think that what      
you're doing is really cool     

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 and innovative and             
I think that we need            

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that kind of innovation.        

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- Ah.                           

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- [Zach] What do you think?     

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- I was surprised by how        
 long winded they were.         

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I thought they'd                
be more concise.                

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 - Okay.                        
- A little more.                

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 (phone dinging)                

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(melancholic piano music)       

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The City of Toronto             
 therefore demands              

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 that you immediately cease     
the production, distribution,   

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supply and installation of      
such shelters on city property. 

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- [CBC Journalist] The city     
didn't respond to requests      

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for comment from CBC News.      

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 Its letter did say,            
 "If the shelters remain        

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on public property, legal       
 action could be taken."        

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- You know,                     

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what happened when someone      
gets into a shelter             

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and then they get               
evicted for violating           

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 whatever restrictions and then,

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they leave the shelter and      
 they don't have anything.      

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Like, all of their              
  stuff is gone.                

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Like, what actually             
happens to those people?        

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It's been surprise,             

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considering they sent           
me an earlier email,            

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discussing a partnership,       

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but I understand that there's   
quite a bit of disconnection    

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between different departments   
   in the City of Toronto.      

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 - I've always opposed this     
kind of structure or solution   

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 and in the last month,         

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I've done a complete 360        

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because I really feel that      
city is failing drastically     

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and that this is a              
lifesaving measure.             

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  - Lastly, I just wanna        
ask why you're doing this?      

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 - [Maisonneuve Journalist]     
You mentioned how, you know,    

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 part of the reason             
 why you do what you do         

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or at least feel                
 motivated to do that is        

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 because you've                 
experienced homelessness        

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to a certain degree yourself.   

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And I was wondering             

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if you would be comfortable     
 talking more about that.       

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 - I stayed in this             
tent for five months            

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 during the winter of Vancouver.

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In Vancouver and,               

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yeah, it was interesting.       

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It was just something           
 I never did before             

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and                             

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 it was just surprising,        

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the challenges that             
  sort of came up               

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 that I didn't really anticipate
 and just, yeah, living,        

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 just finding a way to live     
 and still work and save money. 

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 I figured I'd be able to do it 

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 in a fashion that I was        
comfortable enough to do.       

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But it was one of               
the most challenging            
things I've ever did,           

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 I've ever done.                

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(melancholic music)             

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(wheels rattling)               

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(Khaleel grunts)                

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 (cart rattling)                

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- [Inquirer] Sorry, I was       
just at my friend's today       

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'cause it's kind of             
going crazy there.              

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- Yeah. It's pretty             
  shitty though.                

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 - [Inquirer] Yeah. So I        
was talking to my friend        

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  between the two of us         
and he was kind of saying       

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 with Christie Pitts is         

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 not a, like the city might get 
 mad at us there especially.    

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 - Yeah.                        

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- [Inquirer] So what were       
  you thinking would be         

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probably the safest spot?       

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 - Well,                        

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in terms of safety, I mean,     

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 if you don't want to be        
around a bunch of people,       

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I think Allan Garden.           
   - Yeah.                      

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 I'm a really quiet guy.        

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 - Okay.                        

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I think Allen Gardens           
would be a good spot.           

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 - [Inquirer] I just            
came in from Barrie.            

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I actually lost my              
place due to COVID              

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  because there's been          
 no work back out there.        

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 - Okay.                        

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- [Inquirer] Yeah. So I'm trying

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to look here on Google Maps.    

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Is that near Bloor at all?      

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(melancholic music)             

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- [News Announcer]              
 The city is under              

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 an extreme cold weather alert. 

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 So this cold air really taking 
  over here in southern Ontario 

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 and it's going to stick        
 around for a while.            

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Let's take a look at            
the satellite radar.            

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Current temperatures            
across Southern Ontario.        

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 My goodness, we are sitting    
in those minus double digits    

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 and we are going to stay there,

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not just for the next couple    
of days but really. (mumbles)   

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(melancholic music)             

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 (car whirring)                 

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- Is it here.                   
- Mh-hmm.                       

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 - It is down this little path. 

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 I literally carried all        
 the sheets of plywood,         

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everything and just all the 2x6.

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   I was just walking like      
this and then the generator,    

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all the tools, everything.      

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 This is the very               
first one I built.              

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 Yeah, they put a notice on it. 

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 So this is how we communicate. 

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 This is how we communicate now.

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 Trespass notice                

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under the. (mumbles)            

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  So do camp large, no          
prison to place in store.       

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  Attach this is                
the law. (mumbles)              

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This is the law.                

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Activities,                     

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 enforcement may include removal

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or disposal.                    

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These guys aren't               
 enforcing shit.                

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These are the handles           
I've been putting in.           

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 Hello?                         

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 Yeah, someone's been using it. 

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 That's amazing.                

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That's fucking cool.            

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And they've been painting.      

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I'm happy about that.           

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 There's no latch or            
 lock or anything on it.        

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It could be coming back.        

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 Cool. (laughs)                 

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Good news.                      

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There. You guys wanna go?       

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 - [Zach] So where              
you built the shop?             

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- This is where I built it.     

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 Someone is using this.         

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 That's so nice.                

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- [Radio News Announcer]        
 Let's move on to a story about 

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  a man that we had on the      
show at 4:45 this afternoon.    

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  He's a carpenter. His         
name's Khaleel Seivwright       

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and he's the guy who built      
some Toronto Tiny Shelters.     

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  These are places for          
 people with no housing         

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to be comfortable               
during the cold weather.        

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 He's built some in city parks. 

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 He's done a GoFundMe for this. 

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  It's been overwhelming,       
the support that he's got.      

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He was on the show today        

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and he said that he heard       
  from the city twice.          

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 The first time he heard        
from the city was saying,       

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"What a great idea,             

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maybe we can do some            
type of partnership."           

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And then he said the second     
correspondence that he got,     

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 in the form of an              
 email was telling him,         

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you know, to basically cease    
and desist. And if he didn't,   

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he'd be then charged with       
the cost for tearing down       

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these structures. I'm wondering 
if this story came across       

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your desk and what              
your thoughts were.             

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- [Mayor Tory] Yes, and look,   

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we are seized of the            
 homelessness issue.            

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We've already been successful   
at moving 1100 people           

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out of encampments,             

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which I think most people       
  find to be not a safe         

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 or a proper answer             
 into permanent housing         

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 or alternative housing.        

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There's about 400 people        
left in encampments             

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and what is proposed here is    
 to build these structures,     

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 which the fire department,     
not me and not the activists.   

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I mean, if I had a              
choice between advocates        

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as much as I respect            
 the role they play             

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 and the fire department        
  in telling us                 

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what's safe and what isn't.     

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  They say these                
structures are made             

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out of very unsafe material.    
It's very flammable.            

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The second thing that           
has that is clear is            

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they're not going to be ideal   

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 from the standpoint of         
  other kinds of safety         

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and sanitation issues           

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 because they're little, you    
know, little structures that,   

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 and then the third             
 issue is whether or not        

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 it is going to be              
 just deemed acceptable         

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 for us to be having            
those put up in parks           

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where people choose to put      
 those kinds of things up.      

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(Khaleel laughs)                

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 - [Khaleel] That's funny, yeah.

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- [Zach] And then               
you can put this                

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in your pocket if you want.     

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- [Interviewee] Okay.           

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 - [Zach] Okay.                 

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Alright.                        

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- [Khaleel] So how is staying   
  in the tiny shelter made      

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a difference for you?           

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00:24:52,257 --> 00:24:54,993
 - It's warmer.                 

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Yes. It's like a,               

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 just fair, it's like I         
felt the floor is better        

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 than the tent.                 

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00:25:03,301 --> 00:25:06,638
 You know, the feeling is just, 

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00:25:06,738 --> 00:25:07,539
the whole feeling is better     
 than I thought, you know.      

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At the beginning I              
 thought maybe we,              

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 it's no fresh air or something,

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 but actually, it's quite good. 

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(Dorothy and Khaleel laughs)    

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00:25:20,151 --> 00:25:21,720
- When I first got here,        

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I used to wake up shivering     
in the middle of the night.     

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Every few hours I have to       
go around and walk for like,    

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however long until I            
got my body heat back up        

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00:25:31,763 --> 00:25:34,833
just to fall asleep             
again, wake up cold again.      

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00:25:34,933 --> 00:25:38,803
I have not had a single night   
  shivering in this house.      

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Every night,                    

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I sleep like a baby             
  and ever since,               

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 so I have problems with        

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psychosis and things like       
that when I stop sleeping       

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   and when I'm under           
immense amounts of stress       

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  and all the rest of it.       
And when I have this place,     

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00:25:59,824 --> 00:26:02,394
   all my stress                
started to go down.             

401
00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:03,828
I've been getting               
back into a routine.            

402
00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:06,865
I've been sleeping solid        
hours every single night,       

403
00:26:06,965 --> 00:26:11,903
going to bed, waking up and     
 I just feel more healthy,      

404
00:26:13,872 --> 00:26:15,206
more like, I just can           
actually have a life            

405
00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:16,608
and a routine and not           
always having to be,            

406
00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:18,777
feel like I have to             
fight for my life.              

407
00:26:18,877 --> 00:26:22,681
  - Like I haven't              
always lived homeless           

408
00:26:22,781 --> 00:26:26,217
so I know what it's like        
to own property and stuff       

409
00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:27,152
 and it's a lot of work.        

410
00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:29,220
There's people think            
   like the people              

411
00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:30,455
 that have got all this         
 money and whatnot,             

412
00:26:30,555 --> 00:26:32,223
their big houses and they       
 don't do nothing like,         

413
00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:35,594
 but really, it's a lot of work 
 to take care of that stuff.    

414
00:26:35,694 --> 00:26:38,463
And like even though it's       
a small version of that,        

415
00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:39,497
it's my small version of it     

416
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,033
 and I feel the same            
 way about it, you know,        

417
00:26:42,133 --> 00:26:46,972
 so I like, find myself like    
 cleaning up the yard and like, 

418
00:26:47,072 --> 00:26:49,274
just making little              
improvements here and there     

419
00:26:49,374 --> 00:26:51,176
and decorating and you know,    

420
00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:52,944
and just makes you              
 feel more normal,              

421
00:26:54,346 --> 00:26:59,884
more of a normal                
   person. Normalizes           
 things and just, yeah,         

422
00:26:59,985 --> 00:27:00,919
it's just, I don't know.        

423
00:27:01,019 --> 00:27:01,052
 It feels good.                 

424
00:27:03,521 --> 00:27:04,656
- This is all I own.            

425
00:27:04,756 --> 00:27:07,759
This is all I have              
but this is my home             

426
00:27:07,859 --> 00:27:08,927
and I'm in a great              
country that I love             

427
00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:15,467
 and I've been under            
the circumstances of            
 COVID and pandemic.            

428
00:27:16,501 --> 00:27:18,069
 This is my shelter box,        

429
00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:20,305
 this is where I am and this is 
  what I have and this is good. 

430
00:27:20,405 --> 00:27:21,272
 It's the best thing            
 that has ever happened         

431
00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:24,476
because it's safe               
against all the elements,       

432
00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:27,946
even the physical elements.     

433
00:27:28,046 --> 00:27:28,480
Yeah.                           

434
00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:29,814
The nasty people.               

435
00:27:31,616 --> 00:27:33,451
Want to come and bang your      
door in the middle of the night 

436
00:27:33,551 --> 00:27:36,154
and rip your tent.              

437
00:27:36,254 --> 00:27:37,589
This one,                       

438
00:27:37,689 --> 00:27:39,424
  if they hit it, they can      
hit it as hard as they like.    

439
00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:41,593
 But I'm okay in there.         

440
00:27:41,693 --> 00:27:44,129
   Just zip my mouth and        
I'll be up in the morning.      

441
00:27:47,065 --> 00:27:49,067
(melancholic music)             

442
00:28:31,276 --> 00:28:32,310
- [Zach] What are               
the comments like               

443
00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:33,645
on the testimonials video?      

444
00:28:33,745 --> 00:28:35,480
 - Oh, just lots of weird shit. 

445
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:36,581
Just lots of yuppie             
shit. I don't know.             

446
00:28:36,681 --> 00:28:38,183
- [Zach] Like what?             

447
00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:42,087
 - This is gonna bring down the 
 value of my house. (laughs)    

448
00:28:42,187 --> 00:28:44,389
Like, all these homeless people 
living across the street.       

449
00:28:46,157 --> 00:28:47,659
- [Zach] Really?                

450
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,227
They're saying that?            
   - Yeah.                      

451
00:28:49,327 --> 00:28:50,662
 You know and it's just         
  like so interesting.          

452
00:28:50,762 --> 00:28:54,232
I like seeing the negative      
comments more than anything     

453
00:28:54,332 --> 00:28:55,834
because it's just               
 so interesting.                

454
00:28:55,934 --> 00:28:57,402
 It's like, yeah, that's        
  your biggest concern.         

455
00:28:57,502 --> 00:28:59,771
 It is.                         

456
00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:00,572
 And it is and it's like        
they're just being honest       

457
00:29:00,672 --> 00:29:03,408
  and it's like,                
that's reasonable,              

458
00:29:03,508 --> 00:29:05,043
that that is your               
biggest concern.                

459
00:29:05,143 --> 00:29:09,481
 You know, it's like            
what a lovely person.           

460
00:29:14,819 --> 00:29:16,688
- [Zach] Do you want to just    

461
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:18,256
tell us where you live and.     

462
00:29:20,658 --> 00:29:24,028
- I live right beside Alexandra 
Park at Bathurst, Dundas,       

463
00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:28,199
  and I've been resident        
there since November 2019.      

464
00:29:28,299 --> 00:29:30,068
 - [Zach] Are there             
any specific moments            

465
00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:32,103
 that stick out for you?        

466
00:29:32,203 --> 00:29:32,504
 - [Valentina] There are a lot. 

467
00:29:36,007 --> 00:29:37,375
First one would be,             

468
00:29:37,475 --> 00:29:40,912
 it was one in the morning      
I was trying to fall asleep     

469
00:29:41,012 --> 00:29:44,182
 and there was a bunch of       
partying and music playing      

470
00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:45,717
and then I thought,             

471
00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:48,753
 "Oh my god they're now         
doing fireworks, really?"       

472
00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:53,958
  I look out of the window      
and a whole tent was on fire    

473
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,128
and there were things inside    
the tent that were exploding.   

474
00:29:57,762 --> 00:30:00,131
(loud explosions)               

475
00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:01,633
- [News Announcer] Bright       
flames beside a condo complex   

476
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:03,635
near Dundas West in Bathurst.   

477
00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:05,236
   A tent in the                
homeless encampment             

478
00:30:05,336 --> 00:30:07,772
 at Alexandra Park was on fire. 

479
00:30:07,872 --> 00:30:11,342
- After that, the owners and    
residents at the complex,       

480
00:30:11,442 --> 00:30:15,113
we all just started             
  to report fires               

481
00:30:15,213 --> 00:30:16,481
or anything close to a fire     

482
00:30:16,581 --> 00:30:19,617
'cause we were just             
 all freaked out.               

483
00:30:20,885 --> 00:30:24,122
 It was a rude awakening        
 for me, just to realize        

484
00:30:24,222 --> 00:30:26,624
that we're not safe at all.     

485
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:27,492
Like, we're not safe at all.    

486
00:30:31,596 --> 00:30:34,632
(melancholic music)             

487
00:30:52,116 --> 00:30:53,351
- They removed one.             

488
00:30:53,451 --> 00:30:53,585
 - [Zach] Yeah.                 

489
00:30:58,223 --> 00:30:59,023
- Do you know where from?       

490
00:30:59,123 --> 00:31:00,191
 - [Zach] Yeah.                 

491
00:31:00,291 --> 00:31:01,693
- Where?                        
- Victoria Park.                

492
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:02,794
 - They took it.                

493
00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:06,130
Shit.                           

494
00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:09,467
 And they're just taking        
into a fucking landfill.        

495
00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:14,138
These people are so useless.    

496
00:31:16,641 --> 00:31:17,876
 - [Michael] 30 seconds.        

497
00:31:18,943 --> 00:31:20,578
- We're good. We're good.       
 - Okay.                        

498
00:31:20,678 --> 00:31:22,647
- So good morning everyone.     

499
00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:26,017
I'd like to call this           
meeting to order.               

500
00:31:26,117 --> 00:31:28,186
My name is Michael Thompson,    

501
00:31:28,286 --> 00:31:30,255
 councilor and I am the chair of

502
00:31:30,355 --> 00:31:34,993
the Economic and Community      
  Development Committee.        

503
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:39,364
 I'd like to welcome all        
the members of committee        

504
00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:43,234
 and also members of the public.

505
00:31:43,334 --> 00:31:44,936
We currently have for           
 this meeting today,            

506
00:31:45,036 --> 00:31:50,842
  in excess of 70               
speakers on items.              

507
00:31:50,942 --> 00:31:55,246
I will keep the speakers        
 list open, Madam Clerk,        

508
00:31:55,346 --> 00:31:58,549
on until about 10:30            
and we will close it off        

509
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:00,885
at that particular--            
  - That's hectic.              

510
00:32:00,985 --> 00:32:02,053
This is gonna be so long.       

511
00:32:02,153 --> 00:32:03,521
- [Clerk] Attend is amendment   

512
00:32:03,621 --> 00:32:07,358
 to the blanket contract        
 number, 47022687,              

513
00:32:07,458 --> 00:32:09,227
 issued to Mr. Chemical Limited 

514
00:32:09,327 --> 00:32:10,728
 for the provision              
of housekeeping and             
 laundry chemicals              

515
00:32:10,828 --> 00:32:14,732
to long-term care holds.        

516
00:32:14,832 --> 00:32:17,201
- I ask that city               
 council step in                

517
00:32:17,302 --> 00:32:19,537
and direct Parks and Recreation.

518
00:32:19,637 --> 00:32:20,805
- [Meeting Attendant]           
  All right folks,              

519
00:32:20,905 --> 00:32:22,540
 we're gonna get started        
 very shortly. So--             

520
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,408
- Let's go. Let's go.           

521
00:32:26,177 --> 00:32:29,247
(mellow piano music)            

522
00:32:32,517 --> 00:32:36,754
 - Next item is EC18.4,         

523
00:32:36,854 --> 00:32:40,558
 COVID-19 response              
and accessibility,              

524
00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:45,396
 parks, forestry and            
recreation programs.            

525
00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:49,100
Our next speaker is             
Khaleel Seivwright.             

526
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,368
 You have five minutes.         

527
00:32:53,037 --> 00:32:54,505
- Thank you.                    
 - Welcome.                     

528
00:32:54,605 --> 00:32:56,274
  Hey, my name's                
Khaleel Seivwright.             

529
00:32:56,374 --> 00:32:59,143
Thank you for giving me the     
 opportunity to speak here      

530
00:32:59,243 --> 00:33:00,578
at this meeting.                

531
00:33:00,678 --> 00:33:02,480
On November 19th,               

532
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:05,083
  I received a letter from      
Parks and Recreation manager,   

533
00:33:05,183 --> 00:33:09,053
Janie Romoff, threatening       
the removal of tiny shelters    

534
00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:12,023
that are currently being used   
 by people living in parks.     

535
00:33:12,123 --> 00:33:12,924
And I ask                       

536
00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:16,461
that the city council step in   

537
00:33:16,561 --> 00:33:19,430
and direct Parks and Recreation 
to support this initiative      

538
00:33:19,530 --> 00:33:22,867
 and help me make               
Toronto's parks accessible      

539
00:33:22,967 --> 00:33:26,437
  for all people                
living in our city.             

540
00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,539
 The most immediate and         
  direct way, I think,          

541
00:33:28,639 --> 00:33:31,175
city council can support        
this initiative is              

542
00:33:31,275 --> 00:33:33,344
 by issuing a moratorium        

543
00:33:33,444 --> 00:33:37,582
on Municipal By-law Chapter     
  608, Section 13 and 14.       

544
00:33:38,883 --> 00:33:39,650
 Again,                         

545
00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:44,989
I think there is a lack of      
awareness about the safety,     

546
00:33:45,089 --> 00:33:47,692
design and functionality        
of these shelters.              

547
00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:51,996
So I'll take a moment           
  to reiterate and              
also talk about them.           

548
00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:54,999
I'd like to mention as well     

549
00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:57,001
that there has been a           
document made public            

550
00:33:57,101 --> 00:34:00,805
for my deputation showing       
49,000 people have signed       

551
00:34:00,905 --> 00:34:03,174
 a petition agreeing            
that there should be            

552
00:34:03,274 --> 00:34:05,376
 a moratorium on the same bylaws

553
00:34:05,476 --> 00:34:09,113
 for the safety of those living 
 in encampments. Thank you.     

554
00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:13,918
- Let me see whether or not     
there are any questions of you. 

555
00:34:14,018 --> 00:34:15,820
I see none.                     

556
00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:19,457
- I was like, still             
 swallowing food.               

557
00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:29,133
- I'll start off with fire.     

558
00:34:30,101 --> 00:34:31,736
Is he Deputy Chief Jessop?      

559
00:34:32,837 --> 00:34:35,873
There was a conversation        
  this morning,                 

560
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:39,277
 particularly as it related     
to a gentleman that was here,   

561
00:34:39,377 --> 00:34:40,645
Khaleel Seivwright,             

562
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:43,414
  who talked about              
the small tiny units            

563
00:34:43,514 --> 00:34:45,450
 that he's building             
 'cause he sees a need.         

564
00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:47,552
I'm just wondering whether      
or not fire has had             

565
00:34:47,652 --> 00:34:52,123
  an opportunity to maybe       
take a look at those units      

566
00:34:52,223 --> 00:34:53,224
and if so,                      

567
00:34:53,324 --> 00:34:56,527
what exactly is the thought     
   consideration of fire        

568
00:34:56,627 --> 00:34:58,596
   with respect to these        
units? Are they fire safe?      

569
00:35:02,366 --> 00:35:04,202
  - [Deputy Jim]                
Through the chair.              

570
00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:05,369
 You can hear me, Deputy Mayor? 

571
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:08,206
 - I can hear you.              
Deputy Jessop. Yes.             

572
00:35:08,306 --> 00:35:09,073
- [Deputy Jim] Great. Thank you.

573
00:35:09,173 --> 00:35:11,275
So through the chair            
  fire's position,              

574
00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:13,544
especially after the year       

575
00:35:13,644 --> 00:35:16,414
   we have had with the         
number of encampment fires,     

576
00:35:16,514 --> 00:35:18,616
 is that these, these structures

577
00:35:18,716 --> 00:35:22,987
 that are being                 
constructed are not safe        

578
00:35:23,087 --> 00:35:25,756
  and they're not               
designed for people             

579
00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:28,226
 to live in them in the outside.

580
00:35:28,326 --> 00:35:30,928
- What the fuck? Who did        
a fire safety inspection?       

581
00:35:31,028 --> 00:35:31,963
Not you, bro.                   

582
00:35:32,063 --> 00:35:33,598
Who did it?                     

583
00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:37,802
What are the results of your    
imaginary safety inspection?    

584
00:35:37,902 --> 00:35:40,571
Oh, that's so interesting       
 'cause I wasn't there.         

585
00:35:40,671 --> 00:35:43,641
Who was there? Who participated?

586
00:35:43,741 --> 00:35:46,811
  - I take great                
comfort in hearing              

587
00:35:46,911 --> 00:35:51,916
from a Deputy Chief Jessop      
   around the, you know,        

588
00:35:53,017 --> 00:35:56,487
the small portable              
  type of shelter               

589
00:35:56,587 --> 00:35:59,323
 that Mr. Seivwright spoke about
  today and indicated that it,  

590
00:35:59,423 --> 00:36:01,492
you know, met all the standards.

591
00:36:01,592 --> 00:36:04,662
It doesn't and I don't want     
 people to die from fire.       

592
00:36:04,762 --> 00:36:06,364
Any other problems--            
   - Word!                      

593
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:10,001
 I'm so excited I               
get to speak again.             

594
00:36:10,101 --> 00:36:10,668
- [Michael] Staff report        
that's in front of us           

595
00:36:10,768 --> 00:36:12,203
 and conclude my remarks        

596
00:36:12,303 --> 00:36:14,405
'cause I've now approached      
 the five minutes.              

597
00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:14,605
Moving on.                      

598
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:21,245
 - [Michael] We are now         
moving members to EC18.8        

599
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,714
that is the Toronto Rent Bank   

600
00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:28,052
 and eviction prevention        
 in the community.              

601
00:36:28,152 --> 00:36:29,554
And we have                     

602
00:36:29,654 --> 00:36:31,189
 a number of speakers--         
 - One speaker.                 

603
00:36:31,289 --> 00:36:32,156
- [Michael] On this item.       

604
00:36:32,256 --> 00:36:33,291
- Oh.                           

605
00:36:34,425 --> 00:36:37,361
- [Michael] Our first speaker   
   is Khaleel Seivwright.       

606
00:36:37,461 --> 00:36:39,864
 Mr. Seivwright, are you there? 

607
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:42,767
- [Khaleel] Yep.                

608
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:43,367
   - You're there.              
Thank you very much.            

609
00:36:43,467 --> 00:36:45,303
You may proceed, sir.           

610
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:50,174
 - Okay. I guess I would        
like to start by saying,        

611
00:36:50,274 --> 00:36:53,711
the question Michael            
Thompson made for Jim Jessop    

612
00:36:53,811 --> 00:36:57,114
  about the tiny shelter,       
which he avoided answering.     

613
00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:58,216
He made a point of.             

614
00:36:58,316 --> 00:36:59,383
- [Michael] Mr. Seivwright.     

615
00:36:59,483 --> 00:37:00,985
  - Yes?                        
- I wonder                      

616
00:37:01,085 --> 00:37:02,787
 if you could speak to the      
 issue that we're dealing with. 

617
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:07,158
 It's the Toronto Rent Bank     
and if an eviction prevention   

618
00:37:07,258 --> 00:37:08,359
in the community.               

619
00:37:08,459 --> 00:37:09,727
 That's the issue that we're    
dealing with at this moment.    

620
00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:14,699
Sir, you have had               
the opportunity to              
express your opinion            

621
00:37:14,799 --> 00:37:18,536
on the units that you built     
  on the previous issue.        

622
00:37:18,636 --> 00:37:21,172
  What's in front               
of us is eviction.              

623
00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:22,373
If you could speak to that,     
that would be very helpful, sir.

624
00:37:22,473 --> 00:37:23,708
   Thank you.                   
- I'll continue to speak        

625
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:26,911
  to that because this          
 is extremely relevant,         

626
00:37:27,011 --> 00:37:29,747
 considering how many people    
are being evicted right now.    

627
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:33,684
 But I think it's               
also very relevant,             

628
00:37:33,784 --> 00:37:36,520
considering these people        
 will be possibly living        

629
00:37:36,621 --> 00:37:38,923
 in these tiny shelters         
 that, you know,                

630
00:37:39,023 --> 00:37:39,924
  there was not a fire          
 safety inspection done         

631
00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:43,427
on these shelters by            
Jim Jessop or anyone            

632
00:37:43,527 --> 00:37:45,062
from the fire department.       

633
00:37:45,162 --> 00:37:48,566
And for you to say that they    
 are definitely not safe is     

634
00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:51,702
 a complete lie. That's         
an inaccurate statement.        

635
00:37:51,802 --> 00:37:53,738
   So I would like a fire       
safety inspection to be done    

636
00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:57,742
  and for you to see the        
results of this inspection.     

637
00:37:57,842 --> 00:37:58,943
You know, on a side note,       

638
00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:02,813
to however many people are      
going to be winding up homeless 

639
00:38:02,913 --> 00:38:03,881
this winter.                    

640
00:38:03,981 --> 00:38:05,549
The people I'm providing        
that shelter for,               

641
00:38:05,650 --> 00:38:07,318
 they have never                
experienced homelessness        

642
00:38:07,418 --> 00:38:08,486
in their life before.           

643
00:38:08,586 --> 00:38:11,589
 You know how upsetting that is?

644
00:38:11,689 --> 00:38:12,823
To be giving someone            
  a box to live in              

645
00:38:12,923 --> 00:38:16,394
that has never experienced      
homelessness ever in their life.

646
00:38:16,494 --> 00:38:16,761
That sucks.                     

647
00:38:19,563 --> 00:38:21,299
  I guess that's                
all I have to say.              

648
00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:22,767
If there's any questions,       

649
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,935
I'm very open to be             
answering them. Thank you.      

650
00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:28,806
 - [Michael] Thank              
you very much, sir.             

651
00:38:28,906 --> 00:38:31,575
Let me check to see if there    
are any questions of you.       

652
00:38:31,676 --> 00:38:33,010
 Looking to see                 

653
00:38:33,110 --> 00:38:34,178
if there are any visiting       
  members of committee.         

654
00:38:34,278 --> 00:38:37,014
 I've seen none. Looking        
at members of committee.        

655
00:38:37,114 --> 00:38:39,984
 There are no questions of      
 you, sir. Thank you very much. 

656
00:38:40,084 --> 00:38:41,252
 Okay, our next                 

657
00:38:41,352 --> 00:38:45,656
speaker is Annie Hodgkins,      

658
00:38:45,756 --> 00:38:49,060
center for Equality             
Rights in accommodation.        

659
00:38:50,561 --> 00:38:53,631
( drill whirring)               

660
00:39:10,047 --> 00:39:11,315
   - [News Announcer] A         
homeless man froze to death     

661
00:39:11,415 --> 00:39:12,850
over the weekend.               

662
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:14,452
 His body was found in the      
plateau in a public toilet,     

663
00:39:14,552 --> 00:39:17,088
not far from the open door.     

664
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:20,991
 A drop-in center where he'd    
been earlier Saturday night.    

665
00:39:21,092 --> 00:39:24,695
Staff at the shelter say he     
should not have had to die.     

666
00:39:24,795 --> 00:39:26,764
Angela Mackenzie reports.       

667
00:39:28,299 --> 00:39:30,034
(drill whirring)                

668
00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:30,901
 - I don't know,                

669
00:39:31,001 --> 00:39:32,636
 just weird, like               
my mom's calling me             

670
00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:35,272
and she keeps telling me to     
stop doing what I'm doing.      

671
00:39:37,074 --> 00:39:37,708
- [Zach] Why?                   

672
00:39:37,808 --> 00:39:38,776
- Because she's fucking worried.

673
00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:43,781
 What the fuck is this?         

674
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:48,119
Yeah, she's really stressed out.

675
00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:51,822
- [Zach] What did she say?      

676
00:39:56,660 --> 00:39:57,695
- She sent me a text.           

677
00:39:57,795 --> 00:39:59,663
 I haven't even answered        
her phone calls.                

678
00:39:59,764 --> 00:40:02,533
 - [Zach] What did the text say?

679
00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:04,702
- You know, Khaleel,            
  you should stop.              

680
00:40:04,802 --> 00:40:06,203
You know, you did your best.    

681
00:40:06,303 --> 00:40:10,508
Like, you should just stop      
because you're gonna get fucked.

682
00:40:10,608 --> 00:40:13,811
  She didn't say it like that,  
 but that's like what she meant.

683
00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:16,447
 There's some other             
 vibe going on, I think.        

684
00:40:16,547 --> 00:40:18,849
Like, in city council           

685
00:40:18,949 --> 00:40:19,784
 and just with them saying like,

686
00:40:19,884 --> 00:40:21,986
declaring that these            
  are fire hazards              

687
00:40:22,086 --> 00:40:23,854
 without having any sort        
 of inspection done,            

688
00:40:23,954 --> 00:40:27,691
 it's like there's              
 something else going on        

689
00:40:27,792 --> 00:40:29,660
that's really bothering me.     
 I don't know what it is.       

690
00:40:31,729 --> 00:40:35,433
   It's like, it's not          
about like, the shelters,       

691
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:38,102
it's not about the              
  danger of them.               

692
00:40:38,202 --> 00:40:39,737
It's like, something else.      

693
00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:41,739
It's like, there's              
  a weird thing.                

694
00:40:43,007 --> 00:40:45,776
It's almost like                
about maintaining               
 authority or something.        

695
00:40:45,876 --> 00:40:48,913
  I feel like that's a          
 bigger issue for them.         

696
00:41:38,696 --> 00:41:42,066
 (sudden torch blasting)        

697
00:41:45,736 --> 00:41:48,739
(torch whooshing)               

698
00:41:55,246 --> 00:41:58,449
 - I like seeing the pages      
burn after page after page.     

699
00:41:58,549 --> 00:41:59,283
 - [Companion 1] Oh,            
dude, it was so cool.           

700
00:41:59,383 --> 00:42:01,285
Like, it just flips             
  the next page.                

701
00:42:01,385 --> 00:42:02,686
Flip the next page.             
  - Yeah.                       

702
00:42:04,722 --> 00:42:06,357
Dude.                           
- Can you do a second thing?    

703
00:42:06,457 --> 00:42:08,192
- Yo.                           

704
00:42:08,292 --> 00:42:08,325
You can touch it.               

705
00:42:12,062 --> 00:42:13,030
It's amazing.                   

706
00:42:14,231 --> 00:42:15,466
Yeah.                           

707
00:42:15,566 --> 00:42:16,133
It does not burn.               

708
00:42:18,068 --> 00:42:20,771
The shelter is fine.            
 It's fucking great.            

709
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:24,441
(upbeat piano music)            

710
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,110
- Come on.                      

711
00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:37,521
I've been building these things.

712
00:42:37,621 --> 00:42:39,256
  - Yeah.                       
- And giving them to people     

713
00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:41,458
 and I'm just trying to find out

714
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,561
 an actual firefighter's        
 opinion about them.            

715
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:49,833
 There's a smoke seal detector. 
   - Oh, yeah.                  

716
00:42:49,934 --> 00:42:51,168
- And everyone as well. Yeah.   
   - Yeah.                      

717
00:42:53,504 --> 00:42:54,038
Well, couldn't regulate it.     

718
00:42:54,138 --> 00:42:56,507
 - [Khaleel] Of course.         

719
00:42:56,607 --> 00:42:57,408
 - [Crew Member 1]              
You have to consult             

720
00:42:57,508 --> 00:42:59,510
our fire prevention office.     

721
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:00,344
- [Khaleel] For sure.           

722
00:43:01,145 --> 00:43:02,246
 Well, I mean, in terms of like.

723
00:43:02,346 --> 00:43:03,914
- [Crew Member 1] They're       
allowing tents in that by them. 

724
00:43:04,014 --> 00:43:05,549
Are they allowing               
like, structures.               

725
00:43:05,649 --> 00:43:07,851
- [Khaleel] Yeah.               

726
00:43:07,952 --> 00:43:09,820
 Well, like compared to a tent, 

727
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,722
 like, do you think this        
 is a better option?            

728
00:43:11,822 --> 00:43:13,424
- [Crew Member 1] You get       
burned as fast in a tent.       

729
00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:14,058
Tent catches it and it just.    

730
00:43:14,158 --> 00:43:15,826
 - [Crew Member 2] Yeah.        

731
00:43:16,327 --> 00:43:17,394
- [Khaleel] Yeah.               

732
00:43:17,494 --> 00:43:19,530
- [Crew Member 1] Definitely    
 shelters from the elements     

733
00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:20,397
a lot better.                   

734
00:43:20,497 --> 00:43:21,565
- Oh. Yeah.                     
  - Yeah.                       

735
00:43:21,665 --> 00:43:23,033
- [Crew Member 1] It would      
be an awesome fishing hut.      

736
00:43:23,133 --> 00:43:24,001
Yeah.                           

737
00:43:25,002 --> 00:43:26,437
 I can give you a phone         
  number you can call.          

738
00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:26,937
- [Khaleel] Yeah.               

739
00:43:27,037 --> 00:43:27,905
That'd be amazing.              

740
00:43:28,005 --> 00:43:30,207
- [Crew Member 1]               
Just gimme a minute.            

741
00:43:31,508 --> 00:43:32,076
- [Voicemail] This              
is the voicemail of             

742
00:43:32,176 --> 00:43:34,778
 Toronto Fire Services.         

743
00:43:34,878 --> 00:43:36,180
I am in the office today,       

744
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,449
 but unable to take your        
 call at the moment.            

745
00:43:38,549 --> 00:43:39,683
 So if you'd like               
to leave a message,             

746
00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:43,587
 please do so after the         
tone. Thank you. (beeps)        

747
00:43:43,687 --> 00:43:46,757
- [Khaleel] Hey, my             
name's Khaleel Seivwright.      

748
00:43:46,857 --> 00:43:48,192
I got your number               
from a fire chief               

749
00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:51,996
   at the Dufferin Fire         
Station, Dufferin, DuPont.      

750
00:43:52,096 --> 00:43:55,299
And I was hoping to have        
a conversation with you.        

751
00:43:55,399 --> 00:43:57,901
 (saw whirring)                 

752
00:44:03,774 --> 00:44:05,275
 (phone ringing)                

753
00:44:05,376 --> 00:44:06,276
- Hello, Khaleel.               

754
00:44:06,377 --> 00:44:08,379
This is... Toronto Fire.        

755
00:44:08,479 --> 00:44:10,781
- Oh, hey.                      

756
00:44:10,881 --> 00:44:14,618
 I guess I'm just interested    
 in getting your honest opinion 

757
00:44:14,718 --> 00:44:16,053
about the shelters.             

758
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,758
- Well, you know,               
we're not a fan.                

759
00:44:20,858 --> 00:44:23,460
I mean, let me just back up.    

760
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,462
 We're not a fan of             
this whole situation.           

761
00:44:25,562 --> 00:44:27,798
 - Yeah.                        

762
00:44:27,898 --> 00:44:31,468
- A path to stable housing      
 is everybody's goal here.      

763
00:44:31,568 --> 00:44:32,770
- I've actually,                

764
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:34,938
I've written up a letter        
that I've been trying           

765
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:37,141
to get to John Tory. It's       
  a negotiation letter.         

766
00:44:37,241 --> 00:44:41,311
And I guess, my very            
  specific idea is              

767
00:44:41,412 --> 00:44:44,782
  that I'm aware that the city  
 is getting more housing on line

768
00:44:44,882 --> 00:44:47,184
for people and that             
there's going to be             

769
00:44:47,284 --> 00:44:49,853
more spaces for people to       
go to in the next month,        

770
00:44:49,953 --> 00:44:52,289
 in the next few                
 months, next few weeks.        

771
00:44:52,389 --> 00:44:53,357
 And that, okay,                

772
00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:54,825
 I've built these               
shelters for people             

773
00:44:54,925 --> 00:44:56,493
that are outside currently,     

774
00:44:56,593 --> 00:44:59,830
but I understand that they      
 would like to be inside,       

775
00:44:59,930 --> 00:45:02,366
like, no one wants to           
be living in a tiny box.        

776
00:45:02,466 --> 00:45:03,667
 - That's right.                

777
00:45:03,767 --> 00:45:05,669
 - So, and that's like,         
I'm fully aware of this,        

778
00:45:05,769 --> 00:45:07,171
but there's many                
 people that are outside        

779
00:45:07,271 --> 00:45:09,039
 that would like                
to be in housing.               

780
00:45:09,139 --> 00:45:12,076
And I guess, in my              
negotiation letter,             

781
00:45:12,176 --> 00:45:15,446
I'm talking about what if       
this could be an interim        

782
00:45:17,581 --> 00:45:20,417
for people as they're           
getting into housing            

783
00:45:20,517 --> 00:45:21,585
and then I can move the shelters

784
00:45:21,685 --> 00:45:25,322
and then, eventually remove     
them from all city property     

785
00:45:25,422 --> 00:45:26,824
when the weather is warm enough.

786
00:45:26,924 --> 00:45:29,159
 - Yeah. I don't know, Khaleel. 

787
00:45:29,259 --> 00:45:30,394
'Cause as I said,               

788
00:45:30,494 --> 00:45:33,097
that's a better discussion      
  to have with Dan Rowe.        

789
00:45:33,197 --> 00:45:36,467
I'm only looking at it from     
 a fire safety standpoint.      

790
00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:37,568
- I guess.                      

791
00:45:37,668 --> 00:45:41,772
- You know, if we               
gotta classify it as you,       

792
00:45:41,872 --> 00:45:43,841
what do we classify             
 it as? Is it box?              

793
00:45:43,941 --> 00:45:45,542
Is it buildings, this, you know,

794
00:45:45,642 --> 00:45:47,277
it doesn't really               
fit the molds of                

795
00:45:47,377 --> 00:45:51,181
any sort of recognized standard.

796
00:45:51,281 --> 00:45:52,750
Do you know what                
standard is it built to?        

797
00:45:52,850 --> 00:45:56,420
- Well, I mean, it's very,      

798
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:56,887
it's interesting                
because there's--               

799
00:45:56,987 --> 00:45:59,056
- It's a box.                   

800
00:45:59,156 --> 00:46:02,559
  - There's actually a few      
examples of different cities    

801
00:46:02,659 --> 00:46:05,929
around the world building       
extremely similar structures    

802
00:46:06,029 --> 00:46:07,397
  for people that               
are stuck outside.              

803
00:46:07,498 --> 00:46:11,769
And they're working with        
 governments to do this         

804
00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:13,704
 and it's, yeah, it's something 

805
00:46:13,804 --> 00:46:15,906
  that's endorsed by their      
government to protect people.   

806
00:46:16,006 --> 00:46:18,408
 - Yeah, I know.                

807
00:46:18,509 --> 00:46:20,944
I mean, and it sounds           
okay until it's not.            

808
00:46:21,044 --> 00:46:25,115
We want to get these folks into 
shelters, into hotel rooms.     

809
00:46:25,215 --> 00:46:30,087
We wanna get them on a path     
  to sustainable housing.       

810
00:46:30,187 --> 00:46:31,989
- I guess I'll still send       
 you over the blueprints        

811
00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:34,258
 just to get your honest        
 opinion about them.            

812
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:37,628
 (upbeat music)                 

813
00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:42,733
I like some of Nietzsche's      
   thoughts about like,         

814
00:46:42,833 --> 00:46:45,269
   people are soldiers,         
they'll fight consistently,     

815
00:46:45,369 --> 00:46:48,939
they'll show up, they'll        
do their job, and leave.        

816
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:50,774
But warriors,                   

817
00:46:50,874 --> 00:46:53,644
they can't take a break.        

818
00:46:55,179 --> 00:46:57,681
   The soldier can go on        
vacation, but the warrior,      

819
00:46:57,781 --> 00:47:01,218
the only peace they             
 have is victory.               

820
00:47:02,085 --> 00:47:03,086
I love that.                    

821
00:47:04,221 --> 00:47:06,590
 They're just relentlessly      
pushing something forward.      

822
00:47:09,092 --> 00:47:10,794
 (upbeat music)                 

823
00:47:13,263 --> 00:47:15,165
(plastic rustling)              

824
00:47:15,265 --> 00:47:16,667
(rapid thumping)                

825
00:47:16,767 --> 00:47:18,402
 (saw whirring)                 

826
00:47:23,273 --> 00:47:25,809
 (upbeat music)                 

827
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,648
- [Friend 1] Can you push it?   

828
00:47:34,084 --> 00:47:35,352
 - [Friend 2] Oh, yeah.         

829
00:47:35,452 --> 00:47:37,554
   - Okay. This next story      
actually comes from Toronto.    

830
00:47:37,654 --> 00:47:42,526
A carpenter named,              
Khaleel Seivwright,             

831
00:47:42,626 --> 00:47:44,962
 is building insulated shelters 

832
00:47:45,062 --> 00:47:46,630
for homeless people             
 in the community.              

833
00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:48,866
 This is the kind of            
stuff I need to hear.           

834
00:47:48,966 --> 00:47:51,602
 (upbeat music)                 

835
00:47:56,473 --> 00:47:58,075
 - A drill and a hammer.        

836
00:47:58,175 --> 00:47:58,976
Let's meet the carpenter        

837
00:47:59,076 --> 00:48:01,011
from Canada crafting            
 multiple shelters.             

838
00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:03,347
(woman speaking in              
 foreign language)              

839
00:48:03,447 --> 00:48:04,681
- [News Announcer 1]            
One Toronto carpenter           

840
00:48:04,781 --> 00:48:06,583
who is receiving praise.        

841
00:48:06,683 --> 00:48:07,885
 - [News Announcer 1] Of        
those who have used them,       

842
00:48:07,985 --> 00:48:09,553
 call it a saving grace.        

843
00:48:09,653 --> 00:48:10,921
- [Woman] I'm so impressed      
   by what you're doing.        

844
00:48:11,021 --> 00:48:14,391
It's actually incredible.       
  You are such a hero.          

845
00:48:14,491 --> 00:48:15,893
 - That's cool.                 

846
00:48:15,993 --> 00:48:17,794
 (upbeat music)                 

847
00:48:21,665 --> 00:48:24,334
 (saw whirring)                 

848
00:48:31,341 --> 00:48:33,877
 (upbeat music)                 

849
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:52,195
Oh.                             

850
00:48:52,296 --> 00:48:53,997
I have to get a beer.           

851
00:49:39,543 --> 00:49:42,546
(melancholic music)             

852
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,995
 - [Chief Jessop] Okay,         
so good morning everyone,       

853
00:49:58,095 --> 00:49:59,963
and thank you for coming.       

854
00:50:00,063 --> 00:50:02,966
Early this morning,             
 just around 6AM,               

855
00:50:03,066 --> 00:50:07,004
 Toronto fire service responded 
to the report of a fire,        

856
00:50:07,104 --> 00:50:10,340
a very visible fire             
 at this location.              

857
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,875
Upon our arrival,               

858
00:50:11,975 --> 00:50:14,344
 our crews were met with a      
 fully involved structure fire, 

859
00:50:14,444 --> 00:50:17,647
what can best be described      
as a tiny wooden structure.     

860
00:50:17,748 --> 00:50:20,050
The fire was quickly            
extinguished.                   

861
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:22,552
 Unfortunately, once the        
 fire was extinguished,         

862
00:50:22,652 --> 00:50:26,356
our crews conducted             
their search inside             

863
00:50:26,456 --> 00:50:30,527
and noted one deceased person   
with obvious signs of death.    

864
00:50:30,627 --> 00:50:33,597
 - And these particular         
 structures, where              
 did they come from?            

865
00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:35,065
- I'm not sure, to be honest.   

866
00:50:35,165 --> 00:50:36,800
 Again, it would be             
inappropriate for me to guess   

867
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:39,569
 how they've arrived at in,     
you know, in this city park.    

868
00:50:39,669 --> 00:50:41,671
  That will probably form       
part of the investigation,      

869
00:50:41,772 --> 00:50:42,973
but I have no idea.             

870
00:50:48,478 --> 00:50:51,681
- Did they tell you anything    
more about what happened?       

871
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:56,053
 - [Outreach Worker] He         
had a heater in the unit        

872
00:50:58,822 --> 00:51:01,892
and from what I hear            
from one of his friends,        

873
00:51:01,992 --> 00:51:03,527
and again, I'm just assuming,   

874
00:51:03,627 --> 00:51:05,562
but I don't really              
  know for sure,                

875
00:51:05,662 --> 00:51:08,398
that it was a gas heater.       

876
00:51:11,134 --> 00:51:11,902
 - Okay.                        

877
00:51:14,538 --> 00:51:17,074
 And then, it just lit on fire. 

878
00:51:18,508 --> 00:51:19,743
- [Outreach Worker] Yeah.       
Like, I think it started        

879
00:51:19,843 --> 00:51:20,911
from the inside.                

880
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:27,717
And I don't know,               

881
00:51:27,818 --> 00:51:29,886
he could have very well been,   

882
00:51:31,521 --> 00:51:32,522
you know,                       

883
00:51:32,622 --> 00:51:34,891
 he could have actually         
 been on a head nod             

884
00:51:34,991 --> 00:51:38,428
   or overdosed and maybe       
that's why he didn't wake up.   

885
00:51:41,198 --> 00:51:41,998
 - Yeah.                        

886
00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:46,303
 - [Outreach Worker] But        
I do appreciate the work        

887
00:51:46,403 --> 00:51:47,571
that you're doing.              

888
00:51:47,671 --> 00:51:50,907
 There would've been            
 lots of worse outcomes         

889
00:51:51,007 --> 00:51:54,444
in this had you not been        
 providing shelters for people. 

890
00:52:02,252 --> 00:52:05,088
 (phone dinging)                

891
00:52:21,738 --> 00:52:22,873
Yeah.                           

892
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:25,675
 And then, this is what         
they're hitting me with.        

893
00:52:25,775 --> 00:52:28,912
  "The applicant, which         
 is the City of Toronto,        

894
00:52:29,012 --> 00:52:31,181
 makes application for an order,

895
00:52:31,281 --> 00:52:34,084
 permanently restraining        
the respondent, Khaleel,        

896
00:52:34,184 --> 00:52:36,686
from placing and the            
relocating structures           

897
00:52:36,786 --> 00:52:38,955
on city owned land or otherwise,

898
00:52:39,055 --> 00:52:41,591
creating a nuisance             
or interfering with             
 the city's rights              

899
00:52:41,691 --> 00:52:43,960
as owner and occupier           
of its land."                   

900
00:52:46,463 --> 00:52:46,496
Fantastic.                      

901
00:52:53,537 --> 00:52:54,504
Yep.                            

902
00:52:56,540 --> 00:52:56,907
 - [Zach] Okay.                 

903
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,184
(foreboding music)              

904
00:53:07,284 --> 00:53:07,817
   - [Samara] The               
first option is just            

905
00:53:07,918 --> 00:53:10,120
like a quiet negotiation.       

906
00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:13,356
  It doesn't have to be quiet,  
 but it could be a negotiation. 

907
00:53:13,456 --> 00:53:17,060
Like, everyone sort of says,    

908
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,094
"Hold on, before we go to court,

909
00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:20,363
 before everyone expands        
  all these resources,          

910
00:53:20,463 --> 00:53:22,566
let's talk about what           
your goals are, city.           

911
00:53:22,666 --> 00:53:25,902
 And let's talk about what      
Khaleel's goals are." Okay?     

912
00:53:26,002 --> 00:53:29,472
  The second option is to       
just say, "Okay, bring it.      

913
00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:31,308
 We're going to court."         

914
00:53:31,408 --> 00:53:32,576
And because, like,              

915
00:53:32,676 --> 00:53:35,812
 I think you might have some    
 kind of legal argument on the, 

916
00:53:35,912 --> 00:53:38,148
like, waste dumping ones.       

917
00:53:38,248 --> 00:53:40,717
 I think what you would have    
 to do for the encroachment one 

918
00:53:40,817 --> 00:53:42,986
is constitutionally             
   challenge it.                

919
00:53:45,522 --> 00:53:48,725
 So basically, the point        
is, enforcing the by-law,       

920
00:53:48,825 --> 00:53:49,759
 forcing people out             
of these encampments            

921
00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:53,430
  or forcing me to              
stop building these,            

922
00:53:53,530 --> 00:53:54,764
puts people's lives at risk     

923
00:53:54,864 --> 00:53:57,968
 because of the failure         
 of the shelter system.         

924
00:53:59,502 --> 00:54:00,904
(melancholic music)             

925
00:54:56,893 --> 00:55:00,397
- Hi, are you here              
  to serve Tory?                

926
00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:06,136
- Yeah. So we're here           
at John Tory's condo,           

927
00:55:06,236 --> 00:55:07,103
trying to contest the injunction

928
00:55:07,203 --> 00:55:09,439
that he has served to           
 Khaleel Seivwright.            

929
00:55:09,539 --> 00:55:12,275
  And we're trying to get       
him to stop the injunction,     

930
00:55:12,375 --> 00:55:13,576
 repeal the bylaws that         
 criminalize people             

931
00:55:13,677 --> 00:55:15,779
 who are living in parks        

932
00:55:15,879 --> 00:55:19,616
 and create more                
 affordable RGI housing.        

933
00:55:19,716 --> 00:55:22,252
- Yeah. Tiny house's            
  well structured.              

934
00:55:22,352 --> 00:55:25,955
You don't need no heat, you     
don't need no nothing in there. 

935
00:55:26,056 --> 00:55:29,426
As long as they go inside and   
close the door, you're good.    

936
00:55:29,526 --> 00:55:31,127
 - [Zach] Have you had a        
 couple or you have one?        

937
00:55:31,227 --> 00:55:32,095
- I have one,                   

938
00:55:32,195 --> 00:55:34,130
 but I'm the first              
person that get it.             

939
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:36,666
I was the first one that        
 get that. That get it.         

940
00:55:36,766 --> 00:55:39,436
Yeah. When it burned            
down is people careless,        

941
00:55:39,536 --> 00:55:40,637
like go in there,               

942
00:55:40,737 --> 00:55:41,771
 do whatever they               
doing and get high,             

943
00:55:41,871 --> 00:55:43,707
fall asleep and something wrong.

944
00:55:43,807 --> 00:55:46,710
But otherwise from              
 that, it's good.               

945
00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:47,711
- [Zach] Did you have           
any problems with yours?        

946
00:55:47,811 --> 00:55:50,113
- I have no problems            
whatsoever. Yeah.               

947
00:55:52,749 --> 00:55:53,216
  - [Zach] Do you               
have anything else              

948
00:55:53,316 --> 00:55:54,984
that you want to say?           

949
00:55:55,085 --> 00:55:57,954
- I hope whatever, you know,    
   I hope the city can see      

950
00:55:58,054 --> 00:56:02,292
what people are fighting        
for and common people           

951
00:56:02,392 --> 00:56:03,493
  because there's a lot         
 of people in the street        

952
00:56:03,593 --> 00:56:07,464
that need places and we want    
 the same thing. Like what?     

953
00:56:07,564 --> 00:56:08,798
The mayor have his own key.     

954
00:56:08,898 --> 00:56:11,234
 That's what everybody's        
  looking for.                  

955
00:56:11,334 --> 00:56:13,370
 A place where they             
can call their home.            

956
00:56:13,470 --> 00:56:14,204
It doesn't matter, you know,    

957
00:56:14,304 --> 00:56:16,172
 a home is still                
a home, you know.               

958
00:56:18,007 --> 00:56:21,144
- [TV Character] Open           
the goddamn door.               

959
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:31,287
 - Hey.                         
- Just a.                       

960
00:56:32,689 --> 00:56:34,424
It's just a very nice take.     

961
00:56:34,524 --> 00:56:36,493
- It's really bright in here    

962
00:56:36,593 --> 00:56:37,694
when the light's coming.        

963
00:56:37,794 --> 00:56:38,528
- [Zach] When it's              
all coming through.             

964
00:56:38,628 --> 00:56:39,362
 It's a really nice day.        

965
00:56:39,462 --> 00:56:40,897
 - Yeah.                        

966
00:56:40,997 --> 00:56:42,866
- [Zach] It's cold,             
  but it's nice.                

967
00:56:44,801 --> 00:56:48,004
(melancholic music)             

968
00:58:33,943 --> 00:58:35,478
- These encampments             
   are not safe.                

969
00:58:35,578 --> 00:58:38,982
  They're not healthy and they  
 do not belong in public parks. 

970
00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:40,049
They're not to be               
in public parks,                

971
00:58:40,149 --> 00:58:43,086
but we're not just              
clearing them out.              

972
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:45,655
We are preceding that by        
 extensive work that is going on

973
00:58:45,755 --> 00:58:48,691
  right now to talk to each and 
 every one of those individuals 

974
00:58:48,791 --> 00:58:50,493
and find them better housing.   

975
00:58:51,594 --> 00:58:52,028
 (indistinct phone call)        

976
00:58:52,128 --> 00:58:53,730
- [Woman] Hi, there.            

977
00:58:53,830 --> 00:58:54,597
I just phoned about             
 a friend of mine               

978
00:58:54,697 --> 00:58:56,633
 who's been living              
at Scadding Court.              

979
00:58:56,733 --> 00:58:57,800
 He's trying to get             
into a shelter hotel.           

980
00:59:00,103 --> 00:59:01,004
 - [Shelter Coordinator] If he's
  looking for an indoor space,  

981
00:59:01,104 --> 00:59:02,171
 he's gonna need to             
 contact central intake.        

982
00:59:02,272 --> 00:59:03,373
 I don't have access            
to any hotel spaces.            

983
00:59:03,473 --> 00:59:06,109
  - [Woman] We're told          
 repeatedly over and over again 

984
00:59:06,209 --> 00:59:07,143
by streets to homes             
 who come in here               

985
00:59:07,243 --> 00:59:08,845
 that they can call             
any time, residents,            

986
00:59:08,945 --> 00:59:11,314
to get into shelter hotels.     

987
00:59:11,414 --> 00:59:12,582
  They're evicting              
people from the parks           

988
00:59:12,682 --> 00:59:15,518
 and encouraging them to        
  go to shelter hotels.         

989
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,021
 - [Shelter Coordinator]        
Yes. I am aware of that.        

990
00:59:18,121 --> 00:59:20,089
The referrals by the            
encampment teams,               

991
00:59:20,189 --> 00:59:22,325
 the indoor spaces              
for eligible folks              

992
00:59:22,425 --> 00:59:27,497
 who meet the requirements      
happen on Monday to Friday.     

993
00:59:27,597 --> 00:59:28,998
- [Woman] Right. But I mean,    

994
00:59:29,098 --> 00:59:30,366
the prerogative of the city     
right now in streets to homes is

995
00:59:30,466 --> 00:59:32,702
   to get people into           
shelter hotels or indoors       

996
00:59:32,802 --> 00:59:34,404
out of the parks. Right?        

997
00:59:34,504 --> 00:59:36,039
   And I'm like, literally      
sitting with a man right now    

998
00:59:36,139 --> 00:59:38,508
who's asking for help getting   

999
00:59:38,608 --> 00:59:40,243
into one of your shelter hotels.

1000
00:59:40,343 --> 00:59:43,513
And you're saying there's       
   nothing you can do.          

1001
00:59:44,681 --> 00:59:45,882
- [Shelter Coordinator] No,     

1002
00:59:45,982 --> 00:59:46,883
 the hotel programs that        
 streets to homes refers        

1003
00:59:46,983 --> 00:59:48,851
 to do not accept               
referrals on the weekends.      

1004
00:59:48,952 --> 00:59:50,353
- [Woman] Okay. Okay.           

1005
00:59:50,453 --> 00:59:53,323
So this guy's just gonna        
be stuck outside tonight.       

1006
00:59:59,829 --> 01:00:00,863
 Right?                         

1007
01:00:02,131 --> 01:00:03,099
 - [Shelter Coordinator]        
 Again, my suggestion is        

1008
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:04,467
 that he's going to need        
 to call central intake         

1009
01:00:04,567 --> 01:00:06,502
 and if something is available, 
 they will let him know.        

1010
01:00:06,603 --> 01:00:07,804
- [Woman] Yeah. We tried that   

1011
01:00:07,904 --> 01:00:09,305
and they said there's           
 nothing available.             

1012
01:00:09,405 --> 01:00:11,574
 - [Shelter Coordinator]        
  At this time,                 

1013
01:00:11,674 --> 01:00:12,909
but that will likely            
change in the future.           

1014
01:00:17,580 --> 01:00:20,416
(mellow piano music)            

1015
01:00:44,574 --> 01:00:46,175
- [Samara] If you don't wanna   
constitutionally challenge it   

1016
01:00:46,275 --> 01:00:47,977
'cause you're just              
  not interested.               

1017
01:00:48,077 --> 01:00:49,979
That's a different story.       

1018
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:52,115
- I mean, that's also true.     

1019
01:00:52,215 --> 01:00:55,618
  I guess I want to get         
 back to living my life         

1020
01:00:55,718 --> 01:00:58,488
and I guess it's interesting.   

1021
01:00:58,588 --> 01:01:00,089
 Like, I don't,                 

1022
01:01:00,189 --> 01:01:03,192
I'm not someone that            
considers myself an activist,   

1023
01:01:03,292 --> 01:01:04,127
you know,                       

1024
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:06,029
   and in any way,              
it's like leading up            

1025
01:01:06,129 --> 01:01:07,797
to building these shelters.     

1026
01:01:07,897 --> 01:01:09,799
It's just simply something      
that I saw that I could do      

1027
01:01:09,899 --> 01:01:14,137
that made sense. And            
so I did it and yeah,           

1028
01:01:14,237 --> 01:01:16,005
 I guess I'm not someone        
that would like,                

1029
01:01:16,105 --> 01:01:19,609
 regularly go out of            
my way to be involved           

1030
01:01:19,709 --> 01:01:20,777
in things like these.           

1031
01:01:20,877 --> 01:01:22,145
 I guess, like,                 

1032
01:01:23,246 --> 01:01:27,183
 that's the kind of             
person I actually am.           

1033
01:01:28,718 --> 01:01:29,519
- [Samara] Okay.                

1034
01:01:29,619 --> 01:01:31,054
Okay. That's totally fair.      

1035
01:01:31,154 --> 01:01:33,990
 And we just wanted             
to talk to you about            

1036
01:01:34,090 --> 01:01:35,491
where your head was at and.     

1037
01:01:38,795 --> 01:01:40,997
(trash rattling)                

1038
01:01:51,974 --> 01:01:55,344
(continuous thudding)           

1039
01:02:05,621 --> 01:02:07,323
  - Good morning. I would like  
 to call this meeting to order. 

1040
01:02:07,423 --> 01:02:09,659
 Please join me for             
the national anthem.            

1041
01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:14,831
- My motion is rather short,    

1042
01:02:14,931 --> 01:02:17,533
that city council adopt a       
goal of zero encampments.       

1043
01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,504
I've heard from many            
constituents of mine            

1044
01:02:21,604 --> 01:02:22,505
that have a lot of concerns     

1045
01:02:22,605 --> 01:02:24,507
over the mass                   
encampments in parks.           

1046
01:02:24,607 --> 01:02:28,144
 And I think people see         
 that as not being fair,        

1047
01:02:33,149 --> 01:02:35,985
but others seem to somehow      
 either not have to follow      

1048
01:02:36,085 --> 01:02:38,788
the rules or they gained        
 some sort of a benefit         

1049
01:02:38,888 --> 01:02:41,491
by having access to             
public land for their own.      

1050
01:02:42,225 --> 01:02:43,426
- Councilor Holidays.           

1051
01:02:43,526 --> 01:02:46,596
 Aspirational statements        
  would find, I think,          

1052
01:02:46,696 --> 01:02:49,699
broad support in the public     
 to end these encampments.      

1053
01:02:55,738 --> 01:02:58,808
   I don't think that we        
should be making it easier      

1054
01:02:58,908 --> 01:03:00,810
for the people in               
these encampments               

1055
01:03:00,910 --> 01:03:02,445
to sustain and live longer      
   in these encampments.        

1056
01:03:02,545 --> 01:03:05,047
We should be encouraging        
 them to leave.                 

1057
01:03:10,753 --> 01:03:14,023
(helicopter whirring)           

1058
01:03:16,092 --> 01:03:17,827
  I will lead the               
city administration             

1059
01:03:17,927 --> 01:03:19,996
  in doing groundbreaking       
work on supportive housing      

1060
01:03:20,096 --> 01:03:21,864
 and supports for people who    
 are experiencing homelessness. 

1061
01:03:21,964 --> 01:03:24,267
I do not believe failing        
 to act on encampments,         

1062
01:03:24,367 --> 01:03:27,670
 indefinitely represents any    
 kind of compassionate approach 

1063
01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:29,505
 for those who are              
experiencing homelessness.      

1064
01:03:29,605 --> 01:03:32,341
 Nor is it fair and considerate 
 to all of the other people     

1065
01:03:32,441 --> 01:03:34,644
  who want to have the          
 opportunity to use those parks.

1066
01:03:34,744 --> 01:03:36,179
  Including some                
summer activities.              

1067
01:03:36,279 --> 01:03:39,282
We've just announced summer     
camps and other kinds of things.

1068
01:03:41,384 --> 01:03:42,819
 - I asked Councilor            
Holiday specifically,           

1069
01:03:42,919 --> 01:03:46,656
does your motion be ending      
homelessness? And he said, "No."

1070
01:03:48,724 --> 01:03:50,860
So I can't support              
  that approach.                

1071
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:51,894
I don't support a golden day    

1072
01:03:51,994 --> 01:03:55,565
when suddenly, the              
homeless disappear.             

1073
01:03:55,665 --> 01:03:56,766
Where we have them,             

1074
01:03:56,866 --> 01:03:59,001
 but they're not                
 sleeping out of doors.         

1075
01:03:59,101 --> 01:04:01,270
   - Five seconds.              
- It's a false choice           

1076
01:04:01,370 --> 01:04:03,239
and I can't vote for it.        

1077
01:04:05,474 --> 01:04:09,312
- [Clerk] Motion                
five by Councilor               
 Holiday, recorded vote.        

1078
01:04:10,713 --> 01:04:13,983
- [Announcer] Motion five       
carries. The vote is 18 to 7.   

1079
01:04:23,092 --> 01:04:26,028
(melancholic music)             

1080
01:04:52,521 --> 01:04:55,057
 (truck revving)                

1081
01:04:59,595 --> 01:05:02,365
(metal clanking)                

1082
01:05:07,203 --> 01:05:08,137
 - [Ginger] That's so concerning

1083
01:05:08,237 --> 01:05:10,606
 that they're not gonna         
 let people in to help.         

1084
01:05:10,706 --> 01:05:13,809
- [Zach] So they're gonna       
put a fence around each?        

1085
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:15,111
- They're gonna erect a fence   

1086
01:05:15,211 --> 01:05:16,879
and it's gonna have             
 like, many exits,              

1087
01:05:16,979 --> 01:05:18,948
but they're not gonna           
be letting advocates            

1088
01:05:19,048 --> 01:05:21,450
 or support or people in        
  that don't live here.         

1089
01:05:21,550 --> 01:05:23,786
 So they've given people        
 two hours to like,             

1090
01:05:23,886 --> 01:05:25,521
 accept an offer and get        
  their shit packed up.         

1091
01:05:25,621 --> 01:05:27,123
And then, I guess               
whatever they can't take,       

1092
01:05:27,223 --> 01:05:30,826
the city will deal with.        

1093
01:05:32,028 --> 01:05:34,597
It's not gonna work.            

1094
01:05:34,697 --> 01:05:36,165
This is not gonna be good.      

1095
01:05:47,076 --> 01:05:49,445
- I just told you.              
 Did you hear me?               

1096
01:05:49,545 --> 01:05:50,212
I cannot,                       

1097
01:05:50,313 --> 01:05:51,714
 for health and safety reasons, 

1098
01:05:51,814 --> 01:05:54,450
go into the options             
 that you offered.              

1099
01:05:54,550 --> 01:05:55,384
- [Security] Okay.              

1100
01:05:55,484 --> 01:05:56,652
- Do you understand that?       

1101
01:05:56,752 --> 01:05:58,054
- There may be other            
options open as well?           

1102
01:05:58,154 --> 01:05:59,655
 - Yes. I'm working             
 with a housing worker.         

1103
01:05:59,755 --> 01:06:00,790
   - Okay.                      
- I have been working           

1104
01:06:00,890 --> 01:06:03,426
  with a housing                
worker for months.              

1105
01:06:03,526 --> 01:06:08,631
It's taking a long time to      
process the subsidy application 

1106
01:06:09,699 --> 01:06:10,900
to get permanent housing.       
 - Okay.                        

1107
01:06:12,702 --> 01:06:14,570
So that could still carry on.   

1108
01:06:14,670 --> 01:06:15,738
  As well.                      
- It should carry on.           

1109
01:06:15,838 --> 01:06:17,740
And I should just wait here     

1110
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,809
until I can move into           
 permanent housing.             

1111
01:06:21,210 --> 01:06:22,478
- [Ginger] When people don't    
   leave, which, you know,      

1112
01:06:22,578 --> 01:06:23,846
they're not going to,           
what's the next step?           

1113
01:06:23,946 --> 01:06:25,848
 - I don't know. I have no idea.

1114
01:06:25,948 --> 01:06:27,950
I'll be honest. If I knew       
 what was the next step,        

1115
01:06:28,050 --> 01:06:29,352
I will tell you. I don't.       

1116
01:06:29,452 --> 01:06:30,686
 - Okay.                        

1117
01:06:30,786 --> 01:06:33,723
- My job is to deliver the      
 message, then that's it.       

1118
01:06:33,823 --> 01:06:35,157
 - Yeah.                        

1119
01:06:35,257 --> 01:06:37,426
- Okay? Otherwise, I tell       
 you, but I don't know.         

1120
01:06:37,526 --> 01:06:38,427
 - Okay.                        
 - Okay.                        

1121
01:06:38,527 --> 01:06:40,663
I'm just a messenger.           

1122
01:06:40,763 --> 01:06:41,564
 - Yeah.                        

1123
01:06:48,738 --> 01:06:50,806
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1124
01:06:50,906 --> 01:06:52,575
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1125
01:06:52,675 --> 01:06:54,176
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1126
01:06:54,276 --> 01:06:56,412
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1127
01:06:56,512 --> 01:06:58,481
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1128
01:06:58,581 --> 01:07:00,082
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1129
01:07:00,182 --> 01:07:02,485
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1130
01:07:02,585 --> 01:07:04,687
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1131
01:07:04,787 --> 01:07:07,423
- [Crowd] Who do you protect?   

1132
01:07:09,458 --> 01:07:12,361
(foreboding music)              

1133
01:07:15,898 --> 01:07:20,036
(crowd screaming)               
(sirens blaring)                

1134
01:07:21,904 --> 01:07:26,108
 (metal gates clanking)         
 (crowd yelling)                

1135
01:07:31,647 --> 01:07:33,215
- Stand back. Don't             
push people around.             

1136
01:07:33,315 --> 01:07:35,217
You guys are being violent.     

1137
01:07:35,317 --> 01:07:36,919
 - [Protester] Well, it         
should deescalate, right?       

1138
01:07:37,019 --> 01:07:38,888
 The residents don't want a     
big violent thing happening.    

1139
01:07:40,656 --> 01:07:43,459
(crowd screaming)               

1140
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:45,861
- [Protester] Stop!             

1141
01:07:45,961 --> 01:07:49,899
 - [Protesters] Let             
them go! Let them go!           

1142
01:07:53,269 --> 01:07:57,306
 (intercom indistinctly talking)

1143
01:07:59,275 --> 01:08:01,110
- [Ginger] I think they're      
 gonna back us out slowly       

1144
01:08:01,210 --> 01:08:02,178
until this place is cleared.    

1145
01:08:02,278 --> 01:08:05,915
  And then, we will not         
 be able to get back in.        

1146
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:10,619
- [Ginger] It would be the      
same bylaw that they'd be.      

1147
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:12,588
So you'd be--                   
- Everywhere.                   

1148
01:08:12,688 --> 01:08:14,090
 - [Ginger] Everywhere.         
Public parks in Toronto.        

1149
01:08:16,459 --> 01:08:20,162
   I think that it              
  also particularly             
important day in that           

1150
01:08:20,262 --> 01:08:21,130
there are services for people   

1151
01:08:21,230 --> 01:08:24,967
 that they do not               
offer the same way              

1152
01:08:25,067 --> 01:08:26,035
that they're going to today.    

1153
01:08:26,135 --> 01:08:29,572
 There are opportunities        
 available today                

1154
01:08:29,672 --> 01:08:31,707
that won't be available.        

1155
01:08:31,807 --> 01:08:34,110
   As fucked up as              
what's going on here,           

1156
01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:36,612
 It's also perversely a         
  very good opportunity         

1157
01:08:36,712 --> 01:08:38,714
for you to get yourself lined up

1158
01:08:38,814 --> 01:08:39,915
with the types of options       

1159
01:08:40,015 --> 01:08:43,519
   that you would most          
 appreciate: permanent housing. 

1160
01:08:45,154 --> 01:08:46,622
 Would you just, at             
 least, if I was there,         

1161
01:08:46,722 --> 01:08:47,857
 come and just talk to Mitchell 

1162
01:08:47,957 --> 01:08:50,059
  and you can ask               
him your questions.             

1163
01:08:55,197 --> 01:08:55,931
- [Mitchell] Yeah.              

1164
01:09:37,873 --> 01:09:40,109
 - [Ginger] Mitchell, you stay. 

1165
01:09:41,343 --> 01:09:41,410
 - [Ginger] Please              
stay for a minute.              

1166
01:09:44,647 --> 01:09:46,148
- Mitchell.                     

1167
01:09:46,248 --> 01:09:48,751
 - I can't say--                
 - But this is.                 

1168
01:09:54,256 --> 01:09:57,193
   - [Ginger] Okay. So the      
police are gonna come in now.   

1169
01:09:58,961 --> 01:10:00,329
  Okay.                         
 - Yes.                         

1170
01:10:00,429 --> 01:10:03,499
- [Ginger] And that was an      
 opportunity for housing.       

1171
01:10:11,140 --> 01:10:11,674
 - [Ginger] So do               
you have belongings             

1172
01:10:11,774 --> 01:10:12,041
that you'd like to have?        

1173
01:10:14,777 --> 01:10:16,779
 - [Encampment Resident]        
 Yeah, yeah. I do. I do.        

1174
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,348
- [Ginger] So what's            
 gonna happen then,             

1175
01:10:19,448 --> 01:10:20,649
is all we're gonna              
  be able to do,                

1176
01:10:20,749 --> 01:10:21,850
is try to give them instructions

1177
01:10:21,951 --> 01:10:24,220
on how to pack your stuff up.   

1178
01:10:28,691 --> 01:10:32,294
(foreboding music)              

1179
01:10:56,218 --> 01:11:00,322
(continuous thumping)           
(cameras shuttering)            

1180
01:11:04,526 --> 01:11:07,363
(melancholic music)             

1181
01:11:09,832 --> 01:11:11,100
(machine beeping)               

1182
01:11:28,584 --> 01:11:30,352
 (crowd yelling)                

1183
01:11:32,554 --> 01:11:34,290
(machine beeping)               

1184
01:12:48,597 --> 01:12:54,370
  - This is the first time I'm  
 in the park, in the real park. 

1185
01:12:55,938 --> 01:12:57,506
Real, I mean,                   

1186
01:12:57,606 --> 01:13:01,009
  no one here except residents  
 of the city, enjoying the park 

1187
01:13:01,110 --> 01:13:03,278
since I purchased the place.    

1188
01:13:04,546 --> 01:13:07,449
 I'm glad that the city         
 took part and finally,         

1189
01:13:10,753 --> 01:13:12,855
  well, some people, I'm        
sure found places to stay.      

1190
01:13:12,955 --> 01:13:15,190
 Others had the choice,         

1191
01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:17,726
 but they had to leave this park

1192
01:13:17,826 --> 01:13:20,529
 and I'm glad that it happened. 

1193
01:13:20,629 --> 01:13:21,997
(dog barking)                   

1194
01:13:22,097 --> 01:13:23,732
Yeah. You loving it here.       

1195
01:13:23,832 --> 01:13:25,267
Oh, there you go.               

1196
01:13:25,367 --> 01:13:27,069
This is what we've              
 been waiting for.              

1197
01:13:29,171 --> 01:13:30,906
- [Zach] And so you're going    
  back to your place then?      

1198
01:13:31,006 --> 01:13:33,742
- No, I gave my place           
  to some friends.              

1199
01:13:33,842 --> 01:13:34,676
They just sold their place      

1200
01:13:34,777 --> 01:13:35,911
 and they were homeless         
 for two weeks.                 

1201
01:13:36,011 --> 01:13:40,215
So I said, "Here,               
just live here."                

1202
01:13:40,315 --> 01:13:43,318
 I'm staying at my              
boyfriend's place.              

1203
01:13:55,731 --> 01:13:58,434
(melancholic music)             

1204
01:14:24,793 --> 01:14:28,397
(melancholic music continues)   

1205
01:14:56,225 --> 01:15:00,229
(melancholic music continues)   

1206
01:15:22,951 --> 01:15:25,454
(distant crowd chattering)      

1207
01:15:26,955 --> 01:15:31,493
(distant crowd chattering)