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- [Narrator] It is the dawn of a new age,

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and your perception of sports is about to change.

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No bats, no balls, no sticks, no boundaries.

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From this day forward,

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the world and sports will never be the same.

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These are the Extreme Games.

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- [{announcer] Drops in and makes entry

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with a 79 foot world record.

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(upbeat music continues) (crowd cheering)

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(crowd cheering)

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- [James] In 1974, I got my first skateboard

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from Weinstock's, the local department store.

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It was this Roller Derby X24.

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Like many skaters, I came from a broken home.

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I was the youngest of seven
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my dad left.

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I was a defiant, rebellious kid,

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and that skateboard was my ticket out.

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Out of a crazy household and into the streets.

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I would ride my skateboard down to Sierra Oak School

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where I would meet up with other skateboarders.

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The older kids would bring
back stories of spots around town

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where there were hills, banks,

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and ditches that were being skated.

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I remember going on a field trip to Old Sacramento

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and seeing a group of older
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under the I-5 freeway there.

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That spot was called "Stoker Hill."

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The first skateboard shop to open up

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on the south side of Sacramento
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Don Bostick had opened up Skateboards ETC.

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That was where I bought my first real park board.

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This Brewer with Road Rider
Fours and Bennett Pro Trucks.

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A couple of other shops popped up as well.

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Skateboard City on Auburn Boulevard

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and Cal Pro out in Citrus Heights.

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Then came the skateboard parks.

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First was Skateboard Palace,

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the poorly converted indoor rollerskating rink

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with roughly sculpted bowls,

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some of which were lined with pool tiles

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that would pop off when you hit the coping.

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Then in 1977, the first real technical park

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opened up in Sacramento,
Sierra Wave Skateboard Park.

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Cheer up little buddy.

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It gets better.

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That was the first time I saw them.

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They were the same kids from Stoker Hill

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and Skateboard Palace.

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I'd sit on the edge of the halfpipe

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and watch them do frontside airs,

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and all the radical maneuvers

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that I was seeing in Skateboarder Magazine.

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I was thinking to myself,

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"where did these guys learn to do all this?"

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"This park just opened."

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We had no idea that they had been riding

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empty swimming pools for years.

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Who were these guys?

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They were the N-Men.

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After the skate parks shut down,

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I'd see the N-Men at punk
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We'd party stay up all night night,

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and they'd tell us about all

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the great pools they were skating.

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halfpipes like Mike Chantry's Mile High Ramp,

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or abandoned pools like the Tilt Pool.

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you'd find out about an underground N-Men pool.

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I eventually moved to Los Angeles

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and had completely lost track of the N-Men.

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In 2005, after more than 25 years,

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I thought I'd look online to see

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if any of the N-Men were still alive.

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If anyone would be online, it would be Randy Katen.

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Sure enough, I found him right away.

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As I scrolled through his pictures,

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I saw dozens of photos of Randy

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and all the N-Men still skating pools.

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They had never stopped.

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I hit Randy up and he got back to me

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as if we'd spoken the day before.

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"Jimmy, what's up?"

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No one is more stoked about life

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and skating than Randy Katen.

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He said he was gonna be down at the Soul Bowl

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Skate Contest in Huntington Beach with Don Bostick

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and he invited me to join them.

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I had no idea what to expect.

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When I got there, I couldn't believe what I saw.

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Bostick was running the whole event

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and the N-Men were there.

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All the greatest skaters in the world

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skating on Bostick’s stage.

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Sponsor banners, bleachers, crowds.

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It was the big time.

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Randy Katen had explained to me

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that when the skateboarding industry

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folded in the late seventies,

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the N-men helped keep skateboarding alive

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and inspired the Sacramento skate scene,

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and eventually spread all
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The N-Men pioneered street and vert contests,

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and had a hand in creating the skateboard

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and snowboard events for the X Games.

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Randy had also told me how some of the N-Men

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had gone on to become world champion skateboarders.

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I was completely blown away.

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I had no idea that I would spend the next 11 years

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documenting their story.

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- [John] "I'm not a criminal."

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"I'm not a wifebeater, an armed robber or a gay basher."

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"I've never even packed a gun"

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"or aimed one of another person."

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"Yet the other day,"

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"my girlfriend accused me of having a criminal mind."

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"I think I know what she's talking about.

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"I get nervous around cops.

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"Paranoid.

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"I avoid asking them questions

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"or talking with them at all if I can help it.

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"Can you really blame me?

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"If you grew up skating empty swimming pools

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in Sacramento, California in the seventies,

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"you might do the same."

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"I'm convinced that's where it comes from."

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"Sacramento is an arid, hot, violent place."

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"Subject to long dry spells and water shortages."

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"As a result, hundreds of
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"This is the story of those pools"

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"and the men who skated them."

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"The N-Men of Sacramento."

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- See if we can get a hold of them.

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(phone ringing)

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- [John] Hello?

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- Hey, John, this is James Sweigert.

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How you doing?

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- [John] Hey James, good.

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How are you?

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- Doing all right.

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Doing all right, man.

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Just wanted to talk to you about doing a documentary,

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see if you were interested in being involved

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and see if you'd talk a little bit about the N-Men

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and the original days of it all.

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- [John] Okay.

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In terms of formation of the N-Men

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that was something I came up with when I was,

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you know just a kid and it was in some ways a response

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to the fact that we were outsiders.

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We might as well really been in Montana,

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nobody gave a fuck about Sacramento.

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Although we still had great stuff to skate

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because Sacramento is the home of the empty pool,

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and as you know from the Dogtown thing,

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California had a drought.

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I mean, everything up there was completely dry,

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so we had incredible terrain to pick from

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and nobody was watching us.

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Then that led to the fact

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that we created our own sort of clique

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and that clique was associated

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with the people who skated the N-Bowl.

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Well, the original crew is myself and my brothers,

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Randy Katen, Gary Cross, a guy named Danny Grady.

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we had the Maille brothers, we had a Curtis Bryant.

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My best friend at the time was a guy named Doug Jones

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and Doug Jones was a surfer, he is a black guy,

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built like a linebacker.

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- Where is he now, do you know?

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- [John] I do not know.

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But I don't think it's probably good

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wherever he is, you know.

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- Yeah.

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- [John] If he's even, you know, with us anymore,

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I don't know.

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- Hey, John, well thank you so much for your time

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and your generosity, you're
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so we'll talk again soon.

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- [John] Okay, thanks man.

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I hope that was helpful.

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- Very much so, thank you.

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- [John] Okay, take care. - All right, brother.

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Bye. (phone beeps)

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(car rattling) (cars whooshing)

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Donna, mom, I'm gonna go check out some old skate spots,

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Stoker Hill,

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and then go to the N-Men
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- [Donna] I'll see you there later.

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- I'll see you girls later.

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One of the things about skateboarding is

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it's not how many tricks you do,

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it's how good you look doing the ones you can.

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We're in the Stoker Hill area.

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Stoker Hill was one of the first things I ever skated.

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Come on over here and let's look at this.

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This used to be all a big bank right here.

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and we'd come and we'd ride up the bank,

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then back down, and that was skateboarding in 1974.

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Old Sac used to be Skid Row here.

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I mean, then the city decided to fix it up,

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and I'm glad because it's an awesome place.

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Old Sacramento is a piece
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This is where everybody showed up for the gold rush

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and headed up into the foothills.

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I mean, it's a big piece of history.

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It actually has a lower level that

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they built the streets up because of flooding.

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I mean, it's got a ghost town underneath it.

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It's a cool area, Sacramento, I'm glad they saved it.

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And this was where we went.

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There was very few places that we had

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where we could go down and
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We'd be down here for hours
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skateboarding, and sometimes
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so I'd push and do a front side,

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but you could come down here and hit this and go up

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and do backside and drag
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And that was my art back then.

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I mean, I'd been skateboarding for a few years

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and man, I was digging it.

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I was digging the flow.

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I was digging the groove.

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I was digging who I was hanging out with,

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and it was this group of guys that,

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they were my best friends back then.

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I mean, I was in high school and I had a few friends then,

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but we didn't see eye to eye on what we wanted to do

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or who we were or how we wanted to do it.

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I was the guy that used to
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you know, I was that guy, right?

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We were the outcasts.

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We were the ones that no one associated with.

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So of course we're not gonna play football,

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baseball, or basketball.

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That sucks, right?

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At that point it was on to what can I do that's rad

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and this was it.

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(upbeat music) (skateboard clattering)

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- You know, it's kind of the whole seventies thing

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is kind of a mumble jumble for me.

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and there was a place in Sacramento in Old Sac.

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Stoker Hill underneath the freeway

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from Old Sac into Sacramento,

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and that's where I met Doug Jones,

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Gary Cross, God, there's numerous people,

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but that was the hangout spot.

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I kind of became a second dad for a lot of these kids,

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which me being in my late twenties,

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and these guys were all teenagers, young teenagers,

267
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and I wanna say there wasn't much

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parental guidance at that time,

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and we were just all stoked to be skating, so.

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- [Person] Don Bostick was like our elder and,

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you know, we're all kids, right?

272
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15, 16, and Don was already an adult in his twenties,

273
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but Don was all about the skateboarding, you know,

274
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at the skate shop, he's 100% skateboarder.

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(upbeat music)

276
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- I had a Dodge van and I got to where

277
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I was spending all my time
down at Stoker Hill Skating,

278
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just getting back into it.

279
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- He used to take us around his old Dodge van,

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and he'd load eight kids up in there

281
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and he'd like pick 'em up on a milk run and go to,

282
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you know, like APTOS for a two day contest.

283
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We pull up to a gas station
or whatever to fill up the gas,

284
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and we'd all pile out the door of his old Dodge van

285
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and just skateboard everywhere.

286
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You know, like just mayhem.

287
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(upbeat music continues)

288
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- Don was a real, true, hardcore skateboarder.

289
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I mean I couldn't believe it.

290
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He did some gnarly stuff and he used to slam too.

291
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He was a big boy.

292
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- To us as kids, he was already old, but he ripped.

293
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And we knew that he went to the 1965 world contest,

294
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and we knew that he was down for life

295
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because he was always broken.

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He always had broken arms and shit.

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Every time I ever saw Bostick at Sierra Wave,

298
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fucking gnarled,

299
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broken, scabs, whatever, fucking down.

300
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(upbeat music continues)

301
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- But I remember Doug telling us one day

302
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about, "I found a pool."

303
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"Dude, this pool is rad!"

304
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"It's a kidney"

305
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"and it's like a block from my house, dude."

306
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"You gotta check it out, you know."

307
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- We always skated pools just like the Z-Boys would.

308
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And there was a pool that was down in the gardens.

309
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Gardens is the south area.

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Doug Jones lived over there,

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and he had found this pool over there.

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He called that pool, "the N Bowl."

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- We had this pool called the N Bowl, okay?

314
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And it was out in the worst
fucking neighborhood in town.

315
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You know, to be rolling around in that neighborhood

316
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when I was 14 years old was fucking

317
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taking your life in your hands, bro.

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- But then Doug goes, "yeah, we got this pool",

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"you know, by my house."

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And it was off of Tamoshanter.

321
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Let's hop on the bus.

322
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Let's take the 62 to Florin Road and see what's going on,

323
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and there it was, the N Bowl.

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Three feet of transition and six feet of verticals.

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(Thomas chuckles)

326
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And that was the first pool we really ever skated.

327
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I mean, that was where it all... the core of it, you know?

328
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- When I first started coming up and you know,

329
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I was staying at Doug's house,

330
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occasionally staying at John O'shei's house,

331
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but I think in the life of the N Bowl,

332
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it was a legend in its own time already.

333
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You know, it didn't last forever, but it was...

334
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You know, eventually, what I really remember

335
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is it's a pretty dangerous place to be at one point.

336
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- And I can tell you stories of being in a pool

337
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and all of a sudden I get showered with rocks, okay?

338
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Bricks, it could have killed us, bro.

339
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But if I had Jones with me,

340
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you know, that was a whole different story.

341
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And so Jones and I hit it off great,

342
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because, even though he rode for Skateboards ETC,

343
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you know, where he lived was down where I lived, okay?

344
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So we were naturals like that.

345
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- When he would tell the other skaters,

346
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"Hey man, come skate the N Bowl with us."

347
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You know?

348
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And we just kind of ran with it.

349
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(bright somber music)

350
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- The N-Men are the N-Men,

351
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and John O'Shei is N-Men to me and Doug Jones,

352
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he's right in there with them too.

353
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When I saw Doug skate and do like these micro edgers

354
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in the Sierra Wave, I'm just like, "oh my God!"

355
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- It didn't start out as the N-Men

356
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with this huge encompassing family.

357
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It was 8, 10, 12 guys, the hardcore N-Men.

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- We decided that we were gonna

359
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be called the N-Men at that time.

360
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It was like, it was Doug Jones, John O'Shei,

361
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Ross O'Shei, Roland Bennett.

362
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- Curtis Bryant, Grady, Wiggins.

363
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- Morehouse, barefoot on a Black Bonsai

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with Brewer Cone Wheels.

365
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- Those guys were scary,
especially Katen and Morehouse

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and Doug Jones.

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They were kind of like, even though they're the same,

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basically the same age,

369
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I was like this like kid from Little Hick-townville,

370
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and these guys were like the players of the area.

371
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- As you start really delving into this,

372
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where it actually started and who actually started.

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They'll go back and forth on it.

374
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Doug Jones, which big black guy, he's in prison

375
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or wherever the fuck Doug's at.

376
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He's like MIA, nobody could find him.

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And John O'Shei.

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These were the OGs.

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These were the guys that really started it.

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(somber music) (skateboard clattering)

381
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- [James] Randy Katen had mentioned

382
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that there was an amateur photographer

383
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who had taken many early photos of the N-Men.

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His name was Bill Golding.

385
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They had lost track of him, and no one had heard

386
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from him for over 30 years.

387
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After we started filming, Randy began calling

388
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every Bill Golding in the Western Hemisphere.

389
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- I get a phone call and I answered, "hello?"

390
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"Well, this is Randy Katen."

391
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I said, "yeah."

392
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He said, "are you the bill that you still live",

393
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"Golding, that used to live in Sacramento"

394
00:16:50,217 --> 00:16:51,426
"and took all the skateboard pictures?"

395
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And I said, and he said, "if you are, tell me."

396
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"If you're not, tell me that too, so I can keep looking."

397
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I said, "no, that's me."

398
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- [James] We asked Bill if he
still had any of those photos

399
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that he had taken of the N-Men.

400
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He had them all.

401
00:17:05,566 --> 00:17:08,694
They had sat in a box for more than 30 years.

402
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I'm grateful to Bill Golding

403
00:17:10,779 --> 00:17:12,489
and his son Michael for allowing us to share

404
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these never before seen photographs.

405
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(somber music continues)

406
00:17:19,371 --> 00:17:21,665
- Well, it was just to try to stop the action.

407
00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:23,375
I mean, skateboarding is so quick

408
00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:26,503
that the mind's eye can't remember what you just saw,

409
00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:29,631
but a photograph will stop it forever.

410
00:17:31,216 --> 00:17:34,594
I've always been partial to stills

411
00:17:34,636 --> 00:17:37,306
over video because of that.

412
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It's a split second out of time

413
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that your mind doesn't register that, you know,

414
00:17:44,354 --> 00:17:47,149
but it still will hold it for you forever.

415
00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:51,487
I just enjoy being able to
share it with people, you know,

416
00:17:52,529 --> 00:17:54,781
that was something that I did and I liked,

417
00:17:54,823 --> 00:17:57,826
and when I go, maybe I left something behind

418
00:17:57,868 --> 00:18:01,872
that was good, you know.

419
00:18:03,207 --> 00:18:06,376
You always wanna think that your life was something,

420
00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:08,295
you did something right, You know?

421
00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:11,548
I've always liked the action stuff, you know,

422
00:18:11,590 --> 00:18:16,678
like I said, stuff is a moment at a time,

423
00:18:18,013 --> 00:18:22,351
and that's what's always driven me to shoot pictures

424
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in order to create those moments

425
00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:29,649
and keep 'em forever, you know?

426
00:18:29,691 --> 00:18:33,653
So I'm real happy that somebody's gonna do something

427
00:18:33,695 --> 00:18:37,324
and maybe other people, they'll get to see this stuff

428
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and not just, you know, people I know.

429
00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:41,828
(somber music continues)

430
00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:43,789
- [James] In addition to the N-Men photographs,

431
00:18:43,831 --> 00:18:46,833
Golding's archives also
include these unpublished shots

432
00:18:46,875 --> 00:18:50,587
of Steve Caballero and Dogtown Legends, Tony Alva,

433
00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:54,800
Stacy Peralta, and Shogo Kubo.

434
00:18:56,218 --> 00:18:59,513
- I was amazed when I saw these guys after 30 years

435
00:18:59,555 --> 00:19:00,430
and they're still doing it.

436
00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:02,015
I'm going, "oh my God."

437
00:19:03,225 --> 00:19:04,101
- [James] When was the first time

438
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you ever heard of the N-Men?

439
00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:06,770
- Oh, I don't know.

440
00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:11,024
Back then, I think I was aware of them,

441
00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:13,360
but it didn't really mean much to me.

442
00:19:13,402 --> 00:19:15,362
You know, it was just...

443
00:19:15,404 --> 00:19:17,781
Skateboarders were always making up stories

444
00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:20,409
and trying to be something.

445
00:19:23,078 --> 00:19:24,288
- [Person] Yeah, Bryce!

446
00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:27,541
(crowd cheering) - [Person] yeah!

447
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:32,337
- [Person] Yeah, Bryce!

448
00:19:32,379 --> 00:19:35,966
- I first met the N-Men, or knew of the N-Men

449
00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,845
seeing Randy Katen skate at
Winchester Skateboard Park.

450
00:19:39,887 --> 00:19:41,638
This was in like 1978.

451
00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:44,933
There was a Hester Pool series contest

452
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that happened and that's where all the top pros

453
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came from Southern California
and Northern California,

454
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and Randy Katen was there.

455
00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,693
And that's the first time I ever heard N-Men.

456
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They had their whole scene going on.

457
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(groovy music)

458
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- So there was these guys that I met from Sacramento,

459
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Randy and Roger Folsom.

460
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And you know, I became friends with them,

461
00:20:07,372 --> 00:20:10,584
and those guys were gnarly and radical.

462
00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:12,711
For sure, they had their own style.

463
00:20:12,753 --> 00:20:14,754
I remember Randy was like one of the skaters

464
00:20:14,796 --> 00:20:17,257
that would charge so hard
that he would just get super high

465
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on the largest four foot
extension, so another four feet up.

466
00:20:21,094 --> 00:20:23,931
And I just remember him just charging it super hard.

467
00:20:25,307 --> 00:20:29,102
At that time, we had our own like little NorCal series,

468
00:20:29,144 --> 00:20:32,022
and I was part of the Campbell Skate Park team.

469
00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:34,482
We would travel to certain
parks in Northern California,

470
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and one of the parks was Sierra Wave in Sacramento.

471
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That's the first time I met Don Bostick

472
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and Curtis, Curtis Bryant.

473
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Those were days before the Bones Brigade.

474
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I mean, those were the days before I met Stacy Peralta.

475
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It was about like a year prior to it, like '78.

476
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- [Person] Kind of like a parallel universe

477
00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:55,712
of what was going on in Venice and Santa Monica

478
00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:57,672
with the Z-Boys in Dogtown.

479
00:20:57,714 --> 00:20:59,466
Same thing was happening in Sacramento, you know,

480
00:20:59,508 --> 00:21:02,844
and it was really raw and undocumented.

481
00:21:02,886 --> 00:21:04,471
There was never an N-Men article

482
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:07,057
or photos of those guys in the magazines.

483
00:21:07,099 --> 00:21:10,185
N-Men were infamous, just
as infamous as the Zephyr Boys

484
00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:15,315
or any of the other cats
that were out in the seventies.

485
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,276
- It started out really competitive

486
00:21:18,318 --> 00:21:21,780
and almost a lot of like
animosity and almost contempt.

487
00:21:21,822 --> 00:21:24,741
The N-Men were a bunch of
Hell's Angels of skateboarding

488
00:21:24,783 --> 00:21:27,494
that at one point were like
looking at us Dogtown guys

489
00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:28,495
as just, you know what?

490
00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:30,163
Those guys are the enemy.

491
00:21:30,205 --> 00:21:31,998
- We'd go to these different skate spots

492
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,084
and there was certain guys that were real cool,

493
00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:36,503
like Dave Morehouse and Donald Morehouse,

494
00:21:36,545 --> 00:21:39,923
and they had that cool surf style and stuff like that.

495
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:43,176
And as we started trying to develop our own style

496
00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:45,303
and we'd look in the skateboarder magazines

497
00:21:45,345 --> 00:21:46,596
and go, "you know what?"

498
00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:48,014
"They're cool, but we've got our"

499
00:21:48,056 --> 00:21:50,308
"own Northern California thing."

500
00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:55,314
(upbeat groovy music) (skateboards clattering)

501
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,737
- JK, Jamie Hart, Hudson, Goldman, and Blackheart.

502
00:22:02,779 --> 00:22:06,366
Caballero, all those guys
from within that whole world.

503
00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:09,577
From Sacramento all the way down to Santa Cruz

504
00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:11,830
was pretty much NorCal.

505
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:16,501
- I think the term N-Men, what it defines is northern,

506
00:22:16,543 --> 00:22:18,545
Northern Californians.

507
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(upbeat groovy music continues)

508
00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:25,093
- Kind of like Dog Bowl and
Dogtown of Southern California.

509
00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:27,220
The N-Men were of Northern California.

510
00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:33,393
A lot of the Dogtown success come from the fact that

511
00:22:33,435 --> 00:22:35,228
they had access to the magazine,

512
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:38,857
and Stecyk was an awesome writer.

513
00:22:38,899 --> 00:22:41,568
I mean, all those Dogtown Chronicle things,

514
00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,069
that's what we lived about, right?

515
00:22:43,111 --> 00:22:44,863
But we were up here doing the same stuff,

516
00:22:44,905 --> 00:22:46,156
going, "right on, man."

517
00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,615
"Love you guys," right?

518
00:22:47,657 --> 00:22:50,076
I mean, glad to see it's going on and glad, you know,

519
00:22:50,118 --> 00:22:52,662
it kind of fed us to be who we were.

520
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:54,581
But you know, there's a time when we never

521
00:22:54,623 --> 00:22:56,624
said we wanted to be them.

522
00:22:56,666 --> 00:22:58,335
We had to have our own identity.

523
00:22:58,377 --> 00:22:59,627
- They're them, and they were getting all

524
00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:01,046
the coverage in the magazines

525
00:23:01,088 --> 00:23:03,006
and you see all these guys getting these flyaways

526
00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:04,758
and fucking they ain't pulling that shit.

527
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,259
And we're up here skating the same pools

528
00:23:06,301 --> 00:23:08,261
and having, you know, fun doing our own thing,

529
00:23:08,303 --> 00:23:10,847
but zero coverage because the two magazines

530
00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:13,725
are all from down there until Thrasher came out.

531
00:23:13,767 --> 00:23:15,268
You know what I mean?

532
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:16,311
It was like, you know, if they're gonna be the boys,

533
00:23:16,353 --> 00:23:18,104
we're gonna be the men.

534
00:23:18,146 --> 00:23:19,814
- I think it was that way because a lot of times

535
00:23:19,856 --> 00:23:22,150
it was built up by the media too.

536
00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:24,027
And then it became like this north south thing

537
00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:25,403
and all this bullshit, because I think

538
00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:27,614
that's kind of what sold magazines too and stuff.

539
00:23:27,656 --> 00:23:29,741
You know, it made it
interesting 'cause there's a rivalry,

540
00:23:29,783 --> 00:23:32,660
I'm here to say the N-Men were just as great,

541
00:23:32,702 --> 00:23:34,704
if not better than the Dogtown guys.

542
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:38,958
They just had a different
territory that was their zone

543
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,336
and they basically flourished, grew

544
00:23:41,378 --> 00:23:44,214
and continued to carry on the mission.

545
00:23:45,549 --> 00:23:47,258
- [Person] The N-Men were really guys that love

546
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:48,843
that fountain of youth of skateboarding

547
00:23:48,885 --> 00:23:50,011
and they don't want to give up,

548
00:23:50,053 --> 00:23:52,180
and they want to attach to their youth

549
00:23:52,222 --> 00:23:54,808
and their teenage years of skating.

550
00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:57,268
And no matter how hard the slams are,

551
00:23:57,310 --> 00:24:00,897
you get up and you do it again, and again, and again.

552
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:03,733
And yeah, you skate for life, skate forever.

553
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:04,943
- I could just say straight up

554
00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:06,444
from a northern California perspective,

555
00:24:06,486 --> 00:24:07,946
even though I'm from the south,

556
00:24:07,988 --> 00:24:11,908
those guys were really, really
like rough around the edges,

557
00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:13,660
really tough guys, you know?

558
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,329
And being that tough and being that hardcore

559
00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:18,873
is an integral part of being a skateboarder.

560
00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:21,209
They were not gonna survive

561
00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:22,794
being like kind of lightweight and stuff.

562
00:24:22,836 --> 00:24:24,546
Those guys, they were heavyweights,

563
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:27,340
heavyweights in the sense
of like backyard pool skaters.

564
00:24:27,382 --> 00:24:30,260
They were actually riding
the really hardcore stuff

565
00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:32,846
that they were finding that was totally illegal.

566
00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:35,181
- It's like the stories or the annals of skateboarding

567
00:24:35,223 --> 00:24:37,183
that everyone needs to know,

568
00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:38,852
and the N-Men were a big part of that.

569
00:24:38,894 --> 00:24:41,521
- The legend thing about the N-Men, you know,

570
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,857
after quite some time is that they would

571
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:48,987
actually come in disguise and drain pools

572
00:24:50,113 --> 00:24:52,365
under the, you know, N-Men Pool Service.

573
00:24:52,407 --> 00:24:53,867
- Gary and I, we used to look on

574
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:56,369
the mosquito abatement list, right?

575
00:24:56,411 --> 00:24:57,871
- By the Friday paper and there would be

576
00:24:57,913 --> 00:25:00,373
like a list of abandoned houses with pools in 'em.

577
00:25:00,415 --> 00:25:01,875
- They were filled with water

578
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:04,419
and they were online to
have either the water drained

579
00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:05,795
or chemicals put into it.

580
00:25:05,837 --> 00:25:08,298
And so Gary and I would try to beat them,

581
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,799
beat them to the punch, right?

582
00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:12,719
'Cause if it was a, a pool that was there available

583
00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:15,138
they usually had fences
around it and stuff like that.

584
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,557
And cross and I'd show up in his truck

585
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:20,852
with the N-Men Pool Service logos on the side

586
00:25:20,894 --> 00:25:23,062
and we get outta the truck and
the neighbors would look and,

587
00:25:23,104 --> 00:25:25,190
"oh, it's the pool guys!"

588
00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:28,776
(upbeat groovy music)

589
00:25:28,818 --> 00:25:29,736
And you know, show up in there

590
00:25:29,778 --> 00:25:30,987
with the pool pumps or whatever.

591
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:32,113
And the neighbors go, "oh, thank God"

592
00:25:32,155 --> 00:25:33,072
"they're doing something with that."

593
00:25:33,114 --> 00:25:34,365
You know, finally, or whatever.

594
00:25:34,407 --> 00:25:37,076
- Legitimately drain your fucking pool,

595
00:25:37,118 --> 00:25:38,745
you know, the full suits, the everything.

596
00:25:38,787 --> 00:25:40,455
Like, "oh yeah, no, no, we're taking care of business here."

597
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:42,582
"We're cleaning the pools," and, you know, and so forth.

598
00:25:42,624 --> 00:25:45,084
And skate 'em and rip 'em and then split.

599
00:25:45,126 --> 00:25:46,628
No one even knew what happened.

600
00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:48,129
It was fucking insane when
I heard about that stuff like,

601
00:25:48,171 --> 00:25:49,964
what are you guys doing?

602
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:51,174
I mean, that's hardcore.

603
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:52,759
You don't get much more hardcore than that.

604
00:25:52,801 --> 00:25:54,928
(truck engine revving)

605
00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:56,387
- We put an ad, this is great.

606
00:25:56,429 --> 00:25:58,389
This is right after the X Games and Tony Hawk came out,

607
00:25:58,431 --> 00:26:00,225
and kind of cleaned our image up, right?

608
00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:02,185
It was the Tony Hawk generation.

609
00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:04,562
Here we go, Tony Hawk X Games, yay!

610
00:26:04,604 --> 00:26:05,813
We love Tony Hawk.

611
00:26:05,855 --> 00:26:07,482
We put an ad in the paper, said,

612
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,442
"wanted backyard swimming pool to film"

613
00:26:09,484 --> 00:26:11,819
"professional skateboard documentary."

614
00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:14,197
I sat at my car wash and answered the phone

615
00:26:14,239 --> 00:26:18,117
like three times a day with these moms going,

616
00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:19,953
"I got a pool, come film!"

617
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:23,957
And so we'd show up and Hunter or Bryce

618
00:26:23,999 --> 00:26:25,500
or someone would shoot some video

619
00:26:25,542 --> 00:26:27,043
and we'd bring some N-Men shirts,

620
00:26:27,085 --> 00:26:29,003
and a skateboard and some stickers.

621
00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:30,964
We'd hand them out and everybody would go,

622
00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:32,507
"what about the documentary?"

623
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:35,343
I go, "we'll let you know whether it makes the cut."

624
00:26:35,385 --> 00:26:37,387
And we go on to the next pool.

625
00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:39,305
Gary Cross and I got fucking tired

626
00:26:39,347 --> 00:26:41,016
from skating so many pools!

627
00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:43,101
It's a great racket, man.

628
00:26:43,143 --> 00:26:46,062
I mean, it worked so well.

629
00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:48,439
- Some of the pools, like I said, we ended up like 99 pool.

630
00:26:48,481 --> 00:26:49,941
We ended up skating it for years.

631
00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:52,860
Like we just, like, somehow we saw it from the freeway

632
00:26:52,902 --> 00:26:55,071
and you know, talked, knock, knock, knock.

633
00:26:55,113 --> 00:26:56,948
And then, you know, like, oh, this nice old lady,

634
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:59,450
you know, "oh great, that'll be so great to clean it up."

635
00:26:59,492 --> 00:27:00,952
You know?

636
00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:02,954
Before you know it, we're
having barbecues in their backyard

637
00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:04,163
and they were like family, you know,

638
00:27:04,205 --> 00:27:06,624
we'd come over Christmas and give 'em stuff.

639
00:27:06,666 --> 00:27:09,335
- I first heard of the N-Men when they all came over

640
00:27:09,377 --> 00:27:13,339
and invaded my backyard because
I had a ramp in my backyard,

641
00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:15,133
and somehow they heard about it.

642
00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:18,344
And it was just a quarter pipe and they all came over

643
00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:21,222
and I was kind of afraid of 'em, you know.

644
00:27:21,264 --> 00:27:25,727
- My dad growing up, what I
remember is him skating pools.

645
00:27:25,769 --> 00:27:28,688
He would tell us, "alright, kids."

646
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:32,817
"Look out and you yell five-O if you see a cop." (laughs)

647
00:27:32,859 --> 00:27:35,320
(hands claps) (Randy laughing)

648
00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:36,821
- Good stuff.

649
00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:39,866
- Here's the thing, and this is part of the code,

650
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:41,826
when it comes to backyard pools and stuff like that.

651
00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:42,869
They're not gonna tell us about

652
00:27:42,911 --> 00:27:44,370
all their best spots sometimes.

653
00:27:44,412 --> 00:27:47,957
Every really good pool, every like really hot spot

654
00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:49,417
that Randy and those guys had.

655
00:27:49,459 --> 00:27:51,628
They weren't gonna share all
that with us, dude, every time.

656
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:53,046
Hell no.

657
00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:55,798
That was sacred territory to them.

658
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,425
And we were the same way.

659
00:27:57,467 --> 00:27:59,678
- Randy Katen had decoy pools.

660
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:01,679
The decoy pools are the pools

661
00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:03,681
that you would send the kooks to.

662
00:28:03,723 --> 00:28:05,391
"Hey, Randy, you got any pools?"

663
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:06,893
"Yeah, I got a couple."

664
00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:08,811
"They're over, you know, on Watt Avenue over there."

665
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:13,066
And they were the ones that
were not really skateable or bad

666
00:28:13,108 --> 00:28:14,233
So those were the decoys

667
00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:15,526
and you send the kooks to the decoys,

668
00:28:15,568 --> 00:28:16,944
and you skate the good stuff.

669
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:20,740
- I know what the decoy pools are now, but back then,

670
00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:23,743
I'm sure we got sent to a hell of a lot of decoy pools

671
00:28:23,785 --> 00:28:26,871
because we were just trying to skate.

672
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:28,706
And any empty pool in a backyard

673
00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:31,417
was like this, like adventure to us.

674
00:28:31,459 --> 00:28:33,753
And if it had those guys' names attached to it,

675
00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:37,048
like they found this pool, we were all over it.

676
00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:38,424
You know, they weren't even there.

677
00:28:38,466 --> 00:28:40,343
The pool sucked or whatever, but just their name.

678
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:42,261
Or we'd maybe there'd be a Thrasher sticker

679
00:28:42,303 --> 00:28:45,431
on the tile or something and
we would go, "they were here!"

680
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:46,974
You know, or somebody would graffiti a word

681
00:28:47,016 --> 00:28:48,768
and we were like, "okay, those guys were here."

682
00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:50,311
"We're gonna try to rip this pool."

683
00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:52,939
"But it sucks, but they must rip it."

684
00:28:52,981 --> 00:28:54,440
You know?

685
00:28:54,482 --> 00:28:56,109
So it was all, again, this weird mystery, you know.

686
00:28:56,151 --> 00:28:58,945
- Empty pools back in the day, they were jewels.

687
00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,780
You don't just give your jewels away, you know?

688
00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:04,117
- And they would go up and they would rent the planes,

689
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:07,620
you know, and fly over areas that they knew

690
00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:11,207
to either be abandoned or
like after the fires, et cetera,

691
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:12,625
and search out these pools.

692
00:29:12,667 --> 00:29:13,918
Yeah, incredible.

693
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,503
Yeah, those guys, they're, you know,

694
00:29:15,545 --> 00:29:18,715
they're from an era that doesn't exist anymore

695
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:20,133
and they'll still do it.

696
00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:22,427
So if you have a pool, watch the fuck out.

697
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:25,722
- The guys in Sacramento, the N-Men really were

698
00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,558
into finding pools and other things to skate

699
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,311
full pipes, reservoirs and ditches.

700
00:29:32,353 --> 00:29:34,814
I mean, it just never ended with those guys

701
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:38,651
on what they thought up to be able to skate stuff.

702
00:29:38,693 --> 00:29:41,738
(upbeat rock music)

703
00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,949
- The Glory Hole experience.

704
00:29:46,409 --> 00:29:49,370
I've been going there for over 40 years.

705
00:29:49,412 --> 00:29:51,706
First time I went was in 1976

706
00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:54,375
and that experience hasn't changed.

707
00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:57,211
It's always been and every time I see it,

708
00:29:57,253 --> 00:30:00,965
including yesterday an amazing experience.

709
00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:06,763
- The quintessential skate
adventure you could ever go on.

710
00:30:06,805 --> 00:30:09,265
- [Steve] Just driving across the valley

711
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:10,933
and going up into the foothills,

712
00:30:10,975 --> 00:30:14,729
and finally getting to the dirty, dusty parking lot.

713
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:18,191
- You got like about a half a mile to truck all this gear.

714
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:20,943
You gotta go through this like big sluice rock area

715
00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:23,279
and then hike across a little high desert area.

716
00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:25,281
Then you get to another rock garden

717
00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:26,949
where you gotta watch out for rattlesnakes

718
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:28,743
'cause they're usually one or two there.

719
00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:30,787
Once you get through all that, it's no big deal.

720
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,371
We get to this one little launch point,

721
00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:35,249
we have to pull our rafts out and pump 'em up.

722
00:30:35,291 --> 00:30:38,044
- And that first glimpse coming around the corner

723
00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:40,296
and you see the Glory Hole.

724
00:30:40,338 --> 00:30:42,089
It gets me every time.

725
00:30:42,131 --> 00:30:44,383
How big and massive this thing is

726
00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:46,260
and really, you look at it and you're like,

727
00:30:46,302 --> 00:30:47,762
"it's too big to skate."

728
00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:50,264
- Everybody gets back in there

729
00:30:50,306 --> 00:30:53,017
and they sweep the whole entire pipe out now.

730
00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:56,354
- Blow the dam out, you sweep the water out,

731
00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:57,730
you build the dam back up

732
00:30:57,772 --> 00:31:00,108
and you're good to go for the entire day.

733
00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:04,654
- [Steve] Would say, you know, in the top five things

734
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:07,406
you could possibly skate in the whole world.

735
00:31:07,448 --> 00:31:11,369
Anybody that ever skated
the thing knows how rad it is.

736
00:31:12,787 --> 00:31:16,624
- [Marty] Everybody has this
big smile effect, everybody.

737
00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:20,044
- People come from all over
Reno and Los Angeles and Oregon.

738
00:31:20,086 --> 00:31:22,505
(stammers) It is the perfect scenario

739
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:25,132
and it is a true adventure.

740
00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:27,260
- You have to be almost like a gorilla.

741
00:31:27,302 --> 00:31:29,136
You know, when it comes to skateboard spots,

742
00:31:29,178 --> 00:31:31,931
like if you're looking for
pipes, ditches, anything illegal,

743
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:34,141
if you're taking a risk and you've got a group of guys

744
00:31:34,183 --> 00:31:36,102
that you believe in, and I think those guys,

745
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,562
their crew is tight,

746
00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:40,773
it's about keeping it grassroots and pure.

747
00:31:40,815 --> 00:31:44,277
And it's about success, having success.

748
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,028
Pulling things off that other people

749
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,239
are not really even capable of.

750
00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:50,616
- When you put yourself in danger and you go through it,

751
00:31:50,658 --> 00:31:53,536
you come out the other side feeling way more alive.

752
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:55,997
And that, that's what life is about.

753
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,040
Like, put yourself on the line.

754
00:31:58,082 --> 00:32:00,501
You go to the lip in that 12 foot pool,

755
00:32:00,543 --> 00:32:04,297
you drop in, you take that run

756
00:32:04,339 --> 00:32:07,133
down that big downhill that you're not sure

757
00:32:07,175 --> 00:32:09,302
you might just eat shit at the bottom.

758
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,555
When you do that and you challenge yourself

759
00:32:12,597 --> 00:32:16,684
that's a real authentic
experience, and it's worth doing.

760
00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:18,644
It's worth doing.

761
00:32:18,686 --> 00:32:23,733
(camera reel clicking) (skateboard clattering)

762
00:32:24,609 --> 00:32:27,403
(cars whooshing)

763
00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:33,159
- We started doing interviews about a year,

764
00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:34,660
year and a half ago,

765
00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:39,624
and, you know, some of the guys say that Doug Jones

766
00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:44,378
was the guy that came up with the name the End Bowl,

767
00:32:44,420 --> 00:32:47,632
which is what the N-Men was derived from, so.

768
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:52,887
But you know, they, every time I brought up Doug Jones,

769
00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:54,597
asking these other guys, "Hey, where's Doug?"

770
00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:55,848
"What's up with Doug?

771
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:57,475
"What's," you know, "how do we find him?"

772
00:32:57,517 --> 00:33:00,353
"Oh, yeah, yeah, Doug's, it's not good."

773
00:33:00,395 --> 00:33:02,688
They were always very evasive
and kind of talking about it.

774
00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:03,898
- The rumors about Doug Jones

775
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,566
been swirling around for years.

776
00:33:06,901 --> 00:33:11,322
The common wisdom was
based on our experience with him

777
00:33:11,364 --> 00:33:13,282
and knowing him and, you know, he was a badass

778
00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:14,867
and maybe something bad happened.

779
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:15,701
- [James] We're trying to find him.

780
00:33:15,743 --> 00:33:16,994
We're not sure if he's-

781
00:33:17,036 --> 00:33:18,371
- I don't, I'm... [James] Still alive or not.

782
00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:19,956
- I don't even know if...

783
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,540
(laughs) You never know with him.

784
00:33:21,582 --> 00:33:22,500
- Yeah.

785
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:23,709
But nobody's heard from him

786
00:33:23,751 --> 00:33:26,879
or been able to find him for 20 to 30 years.

787
00:33:26,921 --> 00:33:29,173
I got a text from Randy Katen on Monday.

788
00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:32,385
We found Doug Jones with exclamation points

789
00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:33,219
and I was like, "what?"

790
00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:34,762
"Oh my God!"

791
00:33:34,804 --> 00:33:37,181
So I called Randy right away and he said, "we found him!"

792
00:33:37,223 --> 00:33:38,557
I'm like, "well, where is he?"

793
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,685
You know, I figured he'd maybe be in jail

794
00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:41,602
or prison or something,

795
00:33:41,644 --> 00:33:43,229
but he said, "he's in LA!"

796
00:33:43,271 --> 00:33:44,438
And I'm like, "what?"

797
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,065
"He's in LA?"

798
00:33:46,107 --> 00:33:47,733
You know, 'cause that's where we are right now.

799
00:33:47,775 --> 00:33:50,611
So, you know, immediately we got ahold of him.

800
00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:51,821
He popped up on Facebook.

801
00:33:51,863 --> 00:33:53,364
We got him on Facebook through his phone.

802
00:33:53,406 --> 00:33:58,453
I guess he's out obviously, and we're going to find him.

803
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:03,624
(cars whooshing) (somber music)

804
00:34:07,962 --> 00:34:10,798
(car door thuds)

805
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:25,271
(somber music continues)

806
00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:27,940
(car door beeping) (indistinct chatter)

807
00:34:27,982 --> 00:34:29,442
That's Craig and that's Hauny.

808
00:34:29,484 --> 00:34:31,527
- [Hauny] Hi! - How you doing, Craig, Hauny?

809
00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:32,695
- This is cool. - Yeah.

810
00:34:32,737 --> 00:34:33,779
- This is really, really cool.

811
00:34:33,821 --> 00:34:34,697
- Yeah, it really is.

812
00:34:34,739 --> 00:34:35,740
It's blowing my mind everything

813
00:34:35,782 --> 00:34:36,949
that's been happening, you know?

814
00:34:36,991 --> 00:34:38,200
- Yeah, no man, this is too cool.

815
00:34:38,242 --> 00:34:41,370
- You know, I called one guy and it just like,

816
00:34:41,412 --> 00:34:42,872
it just like it was a windfall.

817
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:44,957
Everybody just started hitting
me on Facebook, you know?

818
00:34:44,999 --> 00:34:47,626
And that was unbelievable. - [James] That's cool.

819
00:34:47,668 --> 00:34:51,339
- I didn't believe I was that missed.

820
00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:53,507
Right here.

821
00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:56,343
Motel. - [James] This one, Mi Casita?

822
00:34:56,385 --> 00:34:57,595
- [Doug] Yeah. - [James] Mi Casita Valley.

823
00:34:57,637 --> 00:34:58,554
- [Doug] Yes, the valley.

824
00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:01,098
(chuckles) Yeah.

825
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,017
Let's pull all the way, go through the gate.

826
00:35:05,144 --> 00:35:06,520
(somber music)

827
00:35:06,562 --> 00:35:08,689
It's kinda sad what happened to me. you know, um...

828
00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:12,777
Um.

829
00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:18,699
I'd never hit the crack pipe in my life and um...

830
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,787
I'll never forget it.

831
00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:24,330
You know, I'm the kind of guy I go for it.

832
00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:25,539
I do everything.

833
00:35:25,581 --> 00:35:26,999
You know, when I was young, I try everything.

834
00:35:27,041 --> 00:35:29,168
You know, so I said, "here man, let me see that."

835
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:32,838
And when I grabbed the pipe
from him and he lit it for me,

836
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,175
the first words I remember saying was, "wow."

837
00:35:36,217 --> 00:35:38,386
"Marijuana doesn't have nothing on this."

838
00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:42,014
I didn't care about anything anymore.

839
00:35:42,056 --> 00:35:42,973
I didn't care about skateboarding,

840
00:35:43,015 --> 00:35:44,600
I didn't care about surfing.

841
00:35:44,642 --> 00:35:46,268
I didn't care about work no more.

842
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:47,812
I didn't care about anything.

843
00:35:49,522 --> 00:35:51,357
All I cared about was getting high.

844
00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:54,735
Since then, my life's been in and out of prisons.

845
00:35:54,777 --> 00:35:58,864
In and out, the last 24 years, in and out of prisons.

846
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:02,785
If I'm not doing six years, I'm doing a violation.

847
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:05,580
Eight months, six months,

848
00:36:07,498 --> 00:36:10,626
10 months or three years.

849
00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:12,753
You know, I'm doing stretches like that.

850
00:36:12,795 --> 00:36:14,046
In and out, in and out.

851
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,218
I've been in the deepest pits of hell

852
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,846
that nobody, none of the N-Men could even imagine

853
00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:27,143
being shot at, being in filthy crack houses,

854
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,229
being on Skid Row in downtown LA barefoot,

855
00:36:30,271 --> 00:36:32,648
selling your shoes to get a hit.

856
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:35,568
You know, I've been in some bad situations

857
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:37,445
and I don't want to go back.

858
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:39,697
I want my life back.

859
00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:43,159
(somber music continues)

860
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:45,619
Pretty much the end of my stay here.

861
00:36:45,661 --> 00:36:46,579
- [Hauny] How do you feel

862
00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:47,663
right now? - Huh?

863
00:36:47,705 --> 00:36:49,248
I feel happy. - [Hauny] You feel happy

864
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:50,749
it's over? - I feel like

865
00:36:50,791 --> 00:36:53,336
I'm getting ready to start my life over officially.

866
00:36:54,712 --> 00:36:56,589
I'm gonna stay clean from here on out.

867
00:36:56,631 --> 00:36:59,717
You know, I want to build a relationship

868
00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:02,720
with all my skateboarding friends, the N-Mens.

869
00:37:02,762 --> 00:37:06,265
Steve Olsson, John O'Shei, you know,

870
00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:08,309
all my skateboarding friends.

871
00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:10,603
The Goat up in Santa Cruz,

872
00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:11,979
you know, Marty Rat,

873
00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:14,398
Randy Katen,

874
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,108
Roger Folsom.

875
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:18,819
You know, we're the pioneers.

876
00:37:18,861 --> 00:37:21,364
We are really the pioneers of the N-Men.

877
00:37:22,198 --> 00:37:25,701
(somber music continues)

878
00:37:28,162 --> 00:37:31,457
(crowd cheering) - [Announcer] Steve Caballero.

879
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:36,545
Let's hear it for him! (crowd cheering)

880
00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:40,633
- Sacked on the eighties moved fast.

881
00:37:40,675 --> 00:37:42,134
There was no shops again

882
00:37:42,176 --> 00:37:43,385
and there was like punk rock was going on and stuff.

883
00:37:43,427 --> 00:37:44,762
And then high roller hit,

884
00:37:44,804 --> 00:37:46,180
it was like a roller skate rental place

885
00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:47,681
that suddenly started
carrying independent trucks.

886
00:37:47,723 --> 00:37:49,350
Then boards and then all of a sudden,

887
00:37:49,392 --> 00:37:50,809
Sam Cunningham and Mitch,

888
00:37:50,851 --> 00:37:52,311
and all those guys started working there.

889
00:37:52,353 --> 00:37:54,647
And that was the hub for the
whole entire Sacramento area

890
00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:56,649
'cause suddenly we had a place to go to again.

891
00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:59,818
So that was early eighties
and that's when street skating

892
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:01,987
was it, because everything was closed down.

893
00:38:02,029 --> 00:38:05,116
(upbeat rock music)

894
00:38:06,701 --> 00:38:08,577
- Just the economy and what was there,

895
00:38:08,619 --> 00:38:10,955
what you had to ride and what you had to make happen.

896
00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:12,790
You had to make it happen yourself.

897
00:38:12,832 --> 00:38:14,750
Like there was no one gonna make a park,

898
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:16,001
no one's gonna make a spot.

899
00:38:16,043 --> 00:38:17,336
You just rode what you could ride,

900
00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:19,213
any way you could do it.

901
00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:20,923
(upbeat rock music continues) ♪ He combs his hair

902
00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:23,425
- In the mid eighties, it started changing again.

903
00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:25,469
Ghost Skate came to town in '84.

904
00:38:26,554 --> 00:38:28,681
But all the pros came from all over the place.

905
00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:31,225
All the top pros came and skated

906
00:38:31,267 --> 00:38:33,352
in our little street skate zone and stuff like that.

907
00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:36,438
In Sacramento, in a grimy parking lot.

908
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,734
But that, I think even reinforced
what Sacto was all about.

909
00:38:40,776 --> 00:38:43,946
Just skate anything, curbs.

910
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:46,490
Just take what you got and just rip it

911
00:38:46,532 --> 00:38:48,450
because some of the pros were like at odds with it.

912
00:38:48,492 --> 00:38:50,035
Like, what is this?

913
00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:51,287
What are we supposed to do with this?

914
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,247
You know, but we were just like, "pfft, skate!"

915
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:54,081
"What's your problem?"

916
00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:55,249
You know?

917
00:38:55,291 --> 00:38:57,334
That became further the Sacto vibe

918
00:38:57,376 --> 00:38:58,919
and what Sacto got known for.

919
00:38:58,961 --> 00:39:01,213
Whatever it is, a curb at Denny's.

920
00:39:01,255 --> 00:39:03,882
Rip it, try to get a photo or something like that.

921
00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:05,342
You know, just whatever you got,

922
00:39:05,384 --> 00:39:07,886
shred it and just try to have as much fun as you can.

923
00:39:07,928 --> 00:39:09,763
Stoke everybody out.

924
00:39:09,805 --> 00:39:11,932
(upbeat rock music continues)

925
00:39:11,974 --> 00:39:14,560
- It's a lovely day here out in the country.

926
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:16,937
We have lots of young fellows here today gathering.

927
00:39:16,979 --> 00:39:18,981
I think it's rather nice to see that

928
00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:21,275
we could have skateboarders

929
00:39:22,276 --> 00:39:24,320
and regular human beings gather together.

930
00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:27,156
- [James] Don Bostick was an early innovator

931
00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:30,826
of some of the very first
skateboard and snowboard contests.

932
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,203
He was the first skater to create contests

933
00:39:33,245 --> 00:39:35,581
the way skaters wanted them run.

934
00:39:35,623 --> 00:39:39,585
- Regardless of what any
fucking buddy thinks, he knows.

935
00:39:39,627 --> 00:39:44,673
He and I started the official way contests

936
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,344
in the modern era we're gonna run and happen.

937
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:49,762
- [James] Don Bostick and the N-Men

938
00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:51,972
pioneered snowboarding in the Sierra Nevada

939
00:39:52,014 --> 00:39:53,474
long before any ski resorts

940
00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:55,434
would let you on a chairlift with one.

941
00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:58,354
While original N-Men, Mike Chantry and Tom Sims

942
00:39:58,396 --> 00:39:59,605
were putting on the first

943
00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,315
world championship halfpipe competition

944
00:40:01,357 --> 00:40:03,192
in Soda Springs, California.

945
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:05,152
Don Bostick was up in Mount Shasta

946
00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:06,653
where he invented the very first

947
00:40:06,695 --> 00:40:08,614
slope style snowboarding event,

948
00:40:08,656 --> 00:40:11,116
which we still see in competitions today.

949
00:40:11,158 --> 00:40:12,868
- I get this phone call and this guy goes,

950
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:14,244
"hi, this is Tom Cousins."

951
00:40:14,286 --> 00:40:15,371
"I'm the new president"

952
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:17,081
"of the National Skateboard Association,"

953
00:40:17,123 --> 00:40:18,540
"and we'd like to hire you,"

954
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:21,043
"and we'd like to send you to Hawaii for our first gig."

955
00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:22,252
You know?

956
00:40:22,294 --> 00:40:23,837
And I go, "who the hell is this?"

957
00:40:23,879 --> 00:40:26,590
And I hung up, you know,
thinking it was Steve-O, somebody,

958
00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:28,008
you know, giving me some bullshit.

959
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,260
30 seconds go by, the phone reads again, "hello?"

960
00:40:30,302 --> 00:40:31,678
"Don't hang up, don't hang up!"

961
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:32,888
(Steve chuckles) You know.

962
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:34,181
I go, "who is this?"

963
00:40:34,223 --> 00:40:36,642
You know and ended up being serious.

964
00:40:36,684 --> 00:40:38,977
And a few days later I was on a plane

965
00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:41,772
to Southern California to meet with Frank Hawk.

966
00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:44,900
Frank was retiring from the
National Skateboard Association.

967
00:40:44,942 --> 00:40:48,153
- The first time I remember Don Bostick was through

968
00:40:48,195 --> 00:40:51,365
my father, who started the
National Skateboard Association

969
00:40:51,407 --> 00:40:54,701
and would go and set up all the judges

970
00:40:54,743 --> 00:40:58,414
and the events and the, you know, the production of it.

971
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:02,376
And he invited, I think, Don, to be a head judge.

972
00:41:03,169 --> 00:41:04,128
And I just remember hearing the

973
00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:05,629
name Don Bostick through my life.

974
00:41:05,671 --> 00:41:06,755
Like, " well, Don Bostick would do it, Don Bostick."

975
00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:08,382
And eventually it was like,

976
00:41:08,424 --> 00:41:10,551
"well, Don Bostick's going to do this."

977
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:12,470
He's going to be the NSA.

978
00:41:13,846 --> 00:41:17,349
- The last year of the NSA I went to Germany

979
00:41:17,391 --> 00:41:19,101
to the World Championships over there.

980
00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:20,936
And when I went to Germany,

981
00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:25,190
I saw what was possible in
skateboarding internationally.

982
00:41:25,232 --> 00:41:27,109
It was like, opened my eyes.

983
00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,653
- [James] Don then launched World Cup Skateboarding,

984
00:41:29,695 --> 00:41:31,196
which was the first to introduce

985
00:41:31,238 --> 00:41:34,283
a world ranking system for skateboarders.

986
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:38,036
- We built the basis of what the NSA became

987
00:41:38,078 --> 00:41:41,039
and then World Cup morphed into.

988
00:41:41,081 --> 00:41:44,001
- [James] Don was eventually called by ESPN to design

989
00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:46,795
and create the skateboard
and snowboard competitions

990
00:41:46,837 --> 00:41:50,257
for a new show idea they had called "The Extreme Games."

991
00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:51,967
- [Announcer] And there is your champion

992
00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:53,552
at the Extreme Games.

993
00:41:53,594 --> 00:41:56,722
And your champion for all time
in skateboarding, Tony Hawk.

994
00:41:56,764 --> 00:42:00,017
- As the X Games came into play, even like the MTV events,

995
00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:02,394
it was suddenly like, whoa,
there's these big televised

996
00:42:02,436 --> 00:42:05,522
events who will sanction the competition.

997
00:42:05,564 --> 00:42:07,065
Of course, it's the Bosticks.

998
00:42:07,107 --> 00:42:08,150
They have the most experience.

999
00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:09,359
They know what they're doing

1000
00:42:09,401 --> 00:42:11,278
and they have a great track record,

1001
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,156
and so they were the first pick.

1002
00:42:14,198 --> 00:42:16,825
And I mean, it's been that way ever since.

1003
00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:18,410
Like the first X Games, I'll never forget

1004
00:42:18,452 --> 00:42:19,620
Don Bostick sitting, you know,

1005
00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:21,538
we're all sitting in a little room

1006
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:24,541
discussing the format and it
was like, this is what we do.

1007
00:42:24,583 --> 00:42:26,585
This is how we've always done it,

1008
00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:27,961
and it's the same people putting it on,

1009
00:42:28,003 --> 00:42:30,589
and we all felt very comfortable with that.

1010
00:42:30,631 --> 00:42:32,883
- [James] After 15 years of running the X Games,

1011
00:42:32,925 --> 00:42:35,594
Don left to focus on World Cup skateboarding,

1012
00:42:35,636 --> 00:42:38,305
which he still runs to this
day with his wife, Danielle.

1013
00:42:38,347 --> 00:42:40,307
- World Cup skateboarding, X Games,

1014
00:42:40,349 --> 00:42:43,644
all these things have been
brought to us by Don Bostick.

1015
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:45,604
He's the mad if you ask me.

1016
00:42:45,646 --> 00:42:48,690
He should have been a Hall
of Famer a long, long time ago.

1017
00:42:48,732 --> 00:42:51,026
- [James] Don Bostick and Tony Hawk teamed up again

1018
00:42:51,068 --> 00:42:52,986
to lobby the International Olympic Committee

1019
00:42:53,028 --> 00:42:54,780
to help bring skateboarding into the Olympics

1020
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:56,198
for the very first time.

1021
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,492
- I'm honored to introduce the first ever

1022
00:42:58,534 --> 00:43:00,327
American Olympic skateboarding team.

1023
00:43:00,369 --> 00:43:03,121
(crowd cheering) (people whistling)

1024
00:43:03,163 --> 00:43:06,708
- The Olympics is such a lightning rod of controversy,

1025
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,420
but my attitude has always been

1026
00:43:10,629 --> 00:43:13,632
the Olympics needs
skateboarding for the cool factor

1027
00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:17,553
more than skateboarding
needs the Olympics for legitimacy.

1028
00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:18,804
Right?

1029
00:43:18,846 --> 00:43:20,264
I understand that the Olympics would bring

1030
00:43:20,306 --> 00:43:21,807
a whole international audience to skateboarding

1031
00:43:21,849 --> 00:43:23,600
that maybe had never seen it before.

1032
00:43:23,642 --> 00:43:26,478
But at the same time, summer games are hurting.

1033
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,231
I mean, how many more swim events can we have?

1034
00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:30,649
Do you know what I mean?

1035
00:43:30,691 --> 00:43:33,569
And running and people shooting and throwing ball.

1036
00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:37,364
It's like, I mean and I hate
that I sound cavalier in that,

1037
00:43:37,406 --> 00:43:40,075
but really it's boring for the new generation of kids

1038
00:43:40,117 --> 00:43:41,952
that are all about action.

1039
00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:43,495
- I grew up competing.

1040
00:43:43,537 --> 00:43:46,415
That's how I made my mark in skateboarding

1041
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:49,793
and competition has played a huge,

1042
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:52,796
tremendous role in a lot of skateboarders lives.

1043
00:43:52,838 --> 00:43:54,673
I mean, that's what drove us.

1044
00:43:54,715 --> 00:43:56,633
That's what that gave us the passion

1045
00:43:56,675 --> 00:43:59,928
to progress and to become better.

1046
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:01,847
Don and Danielle Bostick have just

1047
00:44:01,889 --> 00:44:06,977
been a huge blessing to our industry,

1048
00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:09,229
to my career personally.

1049
00:44:09,271 --> 00:44:12,524
I have a strong appreciation of what they do

1050
00:44:12,566 --> 00:44:15,736
and what they've done for our skateboard community.

1051
00:44:15,778 --> 00:44:18,530
- The Olympics need skateboarding
in their summer games,

1052
00:44:18,572 --> 00:44:21,074
the way that they needed
snowboarding in their winter games

1053
00:44:21,116 --> 00:44:24,703
and obviously snowboarding
when it was first introduced

1054
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:26,538
was like the bastard child of the Olympics.

1055
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:30,000
It was like, look, these guys,
they test positive for weed

1056
00:44:30,042 --> 00:44:31,793
All their hair and their logos

1057
00:44:31,835 --> 00:44:33,462
and then four years later

1058
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:37,049
it's the highlight of the winter games.

1059
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:38,216
And then four years after that,

1060
00:44:38,258 --> 00:44:39,843
it's the only thing people watch.

1061
00:44:39,885 --> 00:44:42,012
I mean, besides ice skating, I guess.

1062
00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:45,932
- When people host competitions
and give us that arena,

1063
00:44:45,974 --> 00:44:50,062
it really builds a fire in the skateboarder.

1064
00:44:50,104 --> 00:44:51,396
You know, having the crowd there,

1065
00:44:51,438 --> 00:44:53,106
it's kind of like a concert, you know,

1066
00:44:53,148 --> 00:44:54,900
it's like you're playing your best song.

1067
00:44:54,942 --> 00:44:57,736
You're trying to do your best run.

1068
00:44:57,778 --> 00:45:01,573
So I look at the Olympics as just another platform

1069
00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:04,493
for other people that don't
really care about skateboarding.

1070
00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:09,039
To get a taste of it and try to understand what we do

1071
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:11,416
and why we are so passionate about it.

1072
00:45:11,458 --> 00:45:13,960
(crowd cheering) (somber music)

1073
00:45:14,002 --> 00:45:16,421
- At its core, it is skateboarding

1074
00:45:16,463 --> 00:45:18,423
and it is modern skateboarding,

1075
00:45:18,465 --> 00:45:20,050
and it's gonna be huge.

1076
00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:23,136
And I feel like Don understands that.

1077
00:45:23,178 --> 00:45:25,389
And World Cup understands all that.

1078
00:45:25,431 --> 00:45:28,183
And we are the ones that can

1079
00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:32,437
not just control it, but to protect it.

1080
00:45:32,479 --> 00:45:34,356
- As far as I think about the Olympics,

1081
00:45:34,398 --> 00:45:37,442
I think it should be freestyle
and slalom and downhill.

1082
00:45:37,484 --> 00:45:40,612
Take it back to the original shit, you know.

1083
00:45:40,654 --> 00:45:42,698
(laughs) I don't know, high jump.

1084
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:45,283
I think it should be fucking
high jump in the Olympics.

1085
00:45:45,325 --> 00:45:46,493
Like some real shit.

1086
00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:48,787
And that's another thing is like, I grew up,

1087
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:50,956
you know, skateboarding and everybody I look,

1088
00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:53,166
I see dressed as like a skateboarder.

1089
00:45:53,208 --> 00:45:55,127
I don't see kids going to school

1090
00:45:55,169 --> 00:45:56,503
dressed like figure skaters.

1091
00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:59,965
- I can't understand why anybody would be upset.

1092
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,008
I mean, I have said in the past when somebody asked me,

1093
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:05,095
like, skateboarding has a, it has a pretty,

1094
00:46:05,137 --> 00:46:07,180
there's a pretty dark side to it, you know,

1095
00:46:07,222 --> 00:46:09,725
skateboarding is like a rebel sport, you know,

1096
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,977
so it's like the outsiders do skateboarding.

1097
00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:13,478
- [Announcer] All right, Mark Gonzales!

1098
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,314
- I've been part of the group that has been trying to

1099
00:46:16,356 --> 00:46:18,525
not usher that in, but really just trying

1100
00:46:18,567 --> 00:46:23,238
to help it along the way and to do it with integrity

1101
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,073
and to represent the sports well.

1102
00:46:25,115 --> 00:46:26,825
And so when people say like,

1103
00:46:26,867 --> 00:46:28,118
"oh, it's skateboarding Olympics."

1104
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,286
Like, "it's bullshit uniforms and stuff."

1105
00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:30,954
It's not like that.

1106
00:46:30,996 --> 00:46:32,789
It's going to be a skate competition

1107
00:46:32,831 --> 00:46:35,500
the way that we've seen it unfold,

1108
00:46:35,542 --> 00:46:36,668
the way that we've seen skateboard

1109
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:38,712
competition through the years.

1110
00:46:38,754 --> 00:46:39,838
- Catalina Island.

1111
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,631
Today the tiny island town of Avalon

1112
00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:44,092
is hosted downhill and slalom racing events

1113
00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:46,136
in the Catalina Skateboard Classic.

1114
00:46:46,178 --> 00:46:47,596
I'm Jim Lampley.

1115
00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:50,182
I hear is the leader in the competition, Jamie Hart.

1116
00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:53,018
A little earlier I talked to him as he came to work.

1117
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,020
As you watch Jamie Hart on his way to a race,

1118
00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:56,188
you might think that skateboarders,

1119
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:57,814
like so many other professional athletes,

1120
00:46:57,856 --> 00:46:59,232
are now big businessmen

1121
00:46:59,274 --> 00:47:01,234
and must carry a briefcase everywhere they go.

1122
00:47:01,276 --> 00:47:02,194
But this is a little different.

1123
00:47:02,236 --> 00:47:03,612
What do you have there, Jamie?

1124
00:47:03,654 --> 00:47:06,698
- I have a set of wheels that I'm gonna race on today.

1125
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:08,950
- So this is in effect your pit crew?

1126
00:47:08,992 --> 00:47:10,244
- Yes, in a sense.

1127
00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:13,872
This is what I like to call the skate room.

1128
00:47:13,914 --> 00:47:17,167
It's memorabilia that I've collected

1129
00:47:17,209 --> 00:47:21,338
over a 41 year pro career

1130
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:24,424
and I'm very proud of it.

1131
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:28,053
- [Announcer] Jamie Mart is a
26 year old truck parts dealer

1132
00:47:28,095 --> 00:47:30,555
who practices on a 3.1 mile stretch of highway

1133
00:47:30,597 --> 00:47:32,682
on Donner Summit near Lake Tahoe.

1134
00:47:32,724 --> 00:47:34,100
- [James] How old are you?

1135
00:47:34,142 --> 00:47:35,644
- 64.

1136
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:37,521
Social Security. (chuckles)

1137
00:47:37,563 --> 00:47:38,730
- [James] You're still skateboard?

1138
00:47:38,772 --> 00:47:40,148
- Yes, I am.

1139
00:47:40,190 --> 00:47:41,608
- [James] How old were you
when you started skateboarding?

1140
00:47:41,650 --> 00:47:46,071
- I was probably about 24, 23 years as old.

1141
00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:48,990
It's when urethane first came out.

1142
00:47:49,032 --> 00:47:50,450
- [James] Why do you skate?

1143
00:47:53,036 --> 00:47:54,579
- I enjoy it.

1144
00:47:54,621 --> 00:47:58,458
I enjoy the camaraderie and the friendship.

1145
00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:02,879
It's just a, you know, being a slalom downhill skater,

1146
00:48:02,921 --> 00:48:05,507
there's a real small community

1147
00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:08,760
and it's an around the world community

1148
00:48:08,802 --> 00:48:11,221
and they get together for these contests.

1149
00:48:11,263 --> 00:48:16,310
And at this stage in my career, I love the attention,

1150
00:48:17,394 --> 00:48:20,438
(laughs) I love the, the respect and,

1151
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,691
you know, "you were the first?"

1152
00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:25,569
You know, I mean, and I guess if I were them,

1153
00:48:25,611 --> 00:48:29,364
I would have the same attitude.

1154
00:48:29,406 --> 00:48:30,949
You know, the original guys that kind

1155
00:48:30,991 --> 00:48:33,660
of saw this before anybody else.

1156
00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:35,370
- [Announcer] Combined to
determine his overall standing

1157
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:38,916
and as you watch Hart, see how smooth his style is.

1158
00:48:39,917 --> 00:48:41,585
He is the leader after two runs.

1159
00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:46,172
He needs a time of 27 and 170 thousandths of a second

1160
00:48:46,214 --> 00:48:48,466
in order to better his overall time.

1161
00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:49,634
- [James] How old were you when you

1162
00:48:49,676 --> 00:48:52,054
won your first world championship?

1163
00:48:55,515 --> 00:48:58,310
- 59, (laughs) believe it or not

1164
00:48:58,352 --> 00:49:00,645
and probably 59, was the oldest

1165
00:49:00,687 --> 00:49:03,690
ever to win a pro event of any sort.

1166
00:49:03,732 --> 00:49:06,985
So I'm proud of that, that's fun.

1167
00:49:07,027 --> 00:49:08,361
That's a feather in my cap.

1168
00:49:08,403 --> 00:49:10,196
Something I'll never forget.

1169
00:49:10,238 --> 00:49:13,283
- I challenge you to find somebody in another sport

1170
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:15,702
that has won the gold medal at the pro level

1171
00:49:15,744 --> 00:49:18,205
at the age of 59 plus.

1172
00:49:19,581 --> 00:49:22,375
That's the original N-Men and
that's the essence of N-Men.

1173
00:49:22,417 --> 00:49:23,877
Never stop.

1174
00:49:23,919 --> 00:49:26,671
(skateboards clattering) (gentle uplifting music)

1175
00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:29,841
- I was in the downhill and I
was coming down this canyon

1176
00:49:29,883 --> 00:49:32,594
up in San Luis Obispo.

1177
00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:34,220
Whew!

1178
00:49:34,262 --> 00:49:37,057
Jamie Hart goes right by me and wins the race.

1179
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:39,684
I'm like, you're kidding me?

1180
00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:41,227
How could you not love that?

1181
00:49:41,269 --> 00:49:43,855
62 year old dude just blows past me

1182
00:49:43,897 --> 00:49:45,357
like I was standing still.

1183
00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:47,025
And he had this really perfect tuck.

1184
00:49:47,067 --> 00:49:48,818
He's got that, you know what I mean?

1185
00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:50,612
He's got a special tuck.

1186
00:49:50,654 --> 00:49:54,532
It does not look aerodynamic at all,

1187
00:49:54,574 --> 00:49:57,118
but true to the source, man.

1188
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,537
He flew by me like I was
really standing still get old man.

1189
00:49:59,579 --> 00:50:02,540
- Get it old man. - [Cameraman] Yeah, Jamie.

1190
00:50:02,582 --> 00:50:06,378
(skateboard clattering)

1191
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:10,674
- Jamie Hart is probably
the most classic skateboarder.

1192
00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:14,344
He's skated longer, I think, than any skateboarder

1193
00:50:14,386 --> 00:50:17,973
besides Cliff Coleman in skate history.

1194
00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:20,642
And he's still shredding it up.

1195
00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:21,476
- [James] He's out here today.

1196
00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:23,395
- Yeah, he's 65.

1197
00:50:26,023 --> 00:50:27,607
- You know, the N-Men is not

1198
00:50:27,649 --> 00:50:31,361
just about the male
skateboarder, it's all encompassing

1199
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:35,031
of different generations, different genders.

1200
00:50:35,073 --> 00:50:37,158
Judi Oyama, who is one of the first

1201
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,744
team managers for independent trucks.

1202
00:50:39,786 --> 00:50:42,747
She's a lifelong skateboarder from Santa Cruz.

1203
00:50:42,789 --> 00:50:46,418
- Back in the mid seventies,

1204
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:48,795
I used to skate for Santa Cruz skateboards

1205
00:50:48,837 --> 00:50:53,800
with Dawn Bostick and O'Shei and Randy Katen.

1206
00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:57,971
And that's when I first heard about all the N-Men.

1207
00:50:59,347 --> 00:51:03,810
Skateboarding for me is
freedom, it's self-expression.

1208
00:51:05,103 --> 00:51:06,479
Like I'll go to the skate park in the morning

1209
00:51:06,521 --> 00:51:08,648
and sometimes, you know,
lately a bunch of old schoolers,

1210
00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:11,026
a bunch of, Joel Gomez and people I rode with

1211
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:15,071
in the eighties we were out
there laughing and skating

1212
00:51:15,113 --> 00:51:16,406
because it makes us feel good.

1213
00:51:16,448 --> 00:51:18,783
Whether we're skating as well as we used to,

1214
00:51:18,825 --> 00:51:22,120
we're just out there and it feels good.

1215
00:51:22,162 --> 00:51:23,997
- This lady's 56 years old. - Yeah!

1216
00:51:25,165 --> 00:51:28,960
- One of the top female slalomers in the world.

1217
00:51:29,002 --> 00:51:30,754
Judi Oyama, remember that name.

1218
00:51:30,796 --> 00:51:32,964
- She looks 29! - [Judi] Yeah, right.

1219
00:51:34,049 --> 00:51:37,969
- [Randy] Judi Oyama, she is an amazing woman.

1220
00:51:38,011 --> 00:51:38,970
(skateboard clattering) - [Person] Judi, get it.

1221
00:51:39,012 --> 00:51:40,472
Get it!

1222
00:51:40,514 --> 00:51:43,642
- Her thing is she really got into slalom racing.

1223
00:51:44,851 --> 00:51:47,395
She worked at it and became world champion.

1224
00:51:48,647 --> 00:51:50,648
Not too many people in NorCal get the shake

1225
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:52,484
from Southern California to be in the Hall of Fame.

1226
00:51:52,526 --> 00:51:54,402
But Judi got in the hall of fame

1227
00:51:54,444 --> 00:51:56,488
and that means a lot to me too,

1228
00:51:56,530 --> 00:51:59,783
because she represents Northern California.

1229
00:51:59,825 --> 00:52:01,951
And that's awesome that, you know,

1230
00:52:01,993 --> 00:52:04,412
someone finally recognized her accomplishments.

1231
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,750
- This is the evening where I get inducted in the

1232
00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:11,878
skateboard Hall of Fame after

1233
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,131
45 fucking years of skateboarding.

1234
00:52:15,173 --> 00:52:18,176
(upbeat rock music)

1235
00:52:18,218 --> 00:52:21,429
- Judi was actually honored in 2015.

1236
00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:26,434
She got the icon award for
the N-Men that year as a woman.

1237
00:52:27,310 --> 00:52:29,395
- [Person] Yeah! (crowd cheering)

1238
00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:33,817
In America that's high honors
and so without further ado,

1239
00:52:33,859 --> 00:52:36,986
I want to introduce my friend of over 40 years.

1240
00:52:37,028 --> 00:52:40,115
Put your hands together for Judi Oyama.

1241
00:52:40,157 --> 00:52:42,784
(crowd cheering)

1242
00:52:42,826 --> 00:52:44,410
- I'm amped to be here tonight.

1243
00:52:44,452 --> 00:52:46,413
I feel like I'm standing on a big ramp

1244
00:52:48,081 --> 00:52:51,042
ready to drop in on a badass run.

1245
00:52:51,084 --> 00:52:53,419
(crowd cheering)

1246
00:52:53,461 --> 00:52:57,006
I honestly never thought tonight what happened.

1247
00:52:57,048 --> 00:52:59,968
Being here with all of you is such an awesome feeling.

1248
00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:02,637
Thank you, and remember, stay badass.

1249
00:53:03,597 --> 00:53:08,685
(crowd cheering) (rock music)

1250
00:53:13,773 --> 00:53:15,567
- The N-Men bro.

1251
00:53:15,609 --> 00:53:17,777
We're from the seventies and eighties

1252
00:53:17,819 --> 00:53:21,948
and everybody did a lot of
self-destructive behavior. Okay?

1253
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:23,241
Everybody.

1254
00:53:23,283 --> 00:53:26,077
N-Men loved drugs and they loved to drink,

1255
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,454
and they love to fight and they love to fuck

1256
00:53:28,496 --> 00:53:30,748
and get off, bro. (amp feedback buzzing)

1257
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:32,750
So there was a lot of trouble.

1258
00:53:32,792 --> 00:53:36,171
So it didn't surprise me when Jones, you know,

1259
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:38,131
when I heard Jones had been in and out

1260
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:40,508
of the slammer all this time.

1261
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:42,969
You know, I hope he is cool.

1262
00:53:43,011 --> 00:53:45,388
I mean, he sounds pretty squared away

1263
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:47,348
on his emails and stuff.

1264
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:49,184
Incarceration can have a real

1265
00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:51,936
weird effect on different people, you know.

1266
00:53:51,978 --> 00:53:55,148
So we'll see, you know, I'm excited to see the guy.

1267
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:57,442
There's a lot of water under
that bridge, I'll tell you that

1268
00:53:57,484 --> 00:53:59,986
because I think it'll probably be emotional,

1269
00:54:00,028 --> 00:54:01,696
you know, to some degree.

1270
00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:04,240
You know, I lost my parents a few years ago

1271
00:54:04,282 --> 00:54:07,243
and Jones was, you know, really close to them.

1272
00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:12,332
So yeah, in some way I've had, you know...

1273
00:54:17,087 --> 00:54:19,714
(somber music)

1274
00:54:26,179 --> 00:54:27,972
- [James] So you're about to see John O'Shei.

1275
00:54:28,014 --> 00:54:28,890
- Yeah.

1276
00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:29,766
- [James] How long has it been?

1277
00:54:29,808 --> 00:54:30,684
- 30 years.

1278
00:54:31,851 --> 00:54:34,312
- [James] How you feeling? - Nervous.

1279
00:54:34,354 --> 00:54:35,272
Very nervous.

1280
00:54:36,273 --> 00:54:37,649
- [James] Why are you nervous?

1281
00:54:37,691 --> 00:54:41,319
- You know, John and me were very, very close.

1282
00:54:41,361 --> 00:54:43,113
You know, we skated together.

1283
00:54:44,614 --> 00:54:46,324
Got into mischief together.

1284
00:54:46,366 --> 00:54:48,159
(chuckles) You know what I'm saying?

1285
00:54:48,201 --> 00:54:50,120
And we just had some crazy times.

1286
00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:54,707
When I disappeared off the radar screen.

1287
00:54:54,749 --> 00:54:58,044
I thought I'd never see him again, ever.

1288
00:54:58,086 --> 00:54:59,504
I always thought about him.

1289
00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:02,674
It's just unfortunate the
way things turned out for me,

1290
00:55:02,716 --> 00:55:05,426
you know, but, you know, I'm back.

1291
00:55:05,468 --> 00:55:07,011
You know, and I think I'm making

1292
00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:08,638
all the right moves this time.

1293
00:55:09,723 --> 00:55:11,307
- Hey! (hands claps)

1294
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:13,184
My man! (Dough chuckles)

1295
00:55:13,226 --> 00:55:15,436
- My boy, John, man!

1296
00:55:15,478 --> 00:55:16,980
- What's up, man?

1297
00:55:18,231 --> 00:55:20,358
- Oh man, goddamn, I missed you, bro.

1298
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,402
- Good to see you, bro.

1299
00:55:22,444 --> 00:55:24,654
- Oh man, I miss you, man.

1300
00:55:24,696 --> 00:55:26,239
- Good to see you.

1301
00:55:26,281 --> 00:55:28,032
Good to see you. - All right.

1302
00:55:28,074 --> 00:55:29,367
All right.

1303
00:55:29,409 --> 00:55:31,244
- You look okay, man.

1304
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,038
How you doing? - My boy, man.

1305
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,291
(both chuckling)

1306
00:55:36,333 --> 00:55:37,500
What a trip, man.

1307
00:55:37,542 --> 00:55:40,712
- A lot of water under that bridge, huh?

1308
00:55:40,754 --> 00:55:42,338
You look good.

1309
00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:43,881
- Gained a lot of weight, man.

1310
00:55:43,923 --> 00:55:44,966
- Good here, buddy.

1311
00:55:45,008 --> 00:55:46,551
It's all good now.

1312
00:55:46,593 --> 00:55:47,844
It's all good.

1313
00:55:47,886 --> 00:55:49,095
It's all good.

1314
00:55:50,096 --> 00:55:52,890
- Damn, man. - It's all good, man.

1315
00:55:52,932 --> 00:55:54,767
Give me five.

1316
00:55:54,809 --> 00:55:56,561
I'm glad to see you alive, bro.

1317
00:55:56,603 --> 00:55:57,812
- Glad to see you too, man.

1318
00:55:57,854 --> 00:55:59,897
- Fuck, I'm glad to see you alive, bro.

1319
00:55:59,939 --> 00:56:01,983
(somber music)

1320
00:56:02,025 --> 00:56:04,861
- And then skateboarding gave us a matrix, you know,

1321
00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:08,197
it kind of gave us something
that kept us all together.

1322
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,367
You had the power under your own feet

1323
00:56:11,409 --> 00:56:15,079
to go ahead and inspire everyone around you

1324
00:56:15,121 --> 00:56:17,582
by exceeding your own limitations.

1325
00:56:17,624 --> 00:56:19,751
And that's what I really dug about skateboarding.

1326
00:56:19,793 --> 00:56:21,711
That I still find that to be the most

1327
00:56:21,753 --> 00:56:23,630
satisfying thing about skateboarding.

1328
00:56:25,173 --> 00:56:27,258
Doug, welcome back.

1329
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:28,259
- Thank you, dog.

1330
00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:31,262
- It's just a family of guys that, you know,

1331
00:56:31,304 --> 00:56:32,555
keep in touch with each other.

1332
00:56:32,597 --> 00:56:33,765
And whenever we see each other,

1333
00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:35,308
it's just like a brotherhood, you know?

1334
00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:38,311
It's, let's ride, you know, wherever we are,

1335
00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:39,979
wherever we're at, we can be in a parking lot,

1336
00:56:40,021 --> 00:56:42,273
hop on our skateboards and have a great time.

1337
00:56:42,315 --> 00:56:43,441
- Whenever I'm skateboarding,

1338
00:56:43,483 --> 00:56:45,401
it just feels like family to me, you know?

1339
00:56:45,443 --> 00:56:49,614
And everywhere I've been in
the country or other countries

1340
00:56:49,656 --> 00:56:51,949
meet a skateboarder, you're just friends.

1341
00:56:51,991 --> 00:56:54,619
And I don't know, it just feels like home.

1342
00:56:54,661 --> 00:56:59,457
- Skateboarding was a way for all these kids

1343
00:56:59,499 --> 00:57:03,586
who didn't have a lot going on in their lives

1344
00:57:03,628 --> 00:57:07,298
to sort of mold an identity for themselves

1345
00:57:07,340 --> 00:57:10,718
that would reinforce their values

1346
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,969
and who they were, you know?

1347
00:57:12,011 --> 00:57:14,472
And that's really, I think that's true

1348
00:57:14,514 --> 00:57:16,766
for skateboarding just in general, you know?

1349
00:57:16,808 --> 00:57:20,103
It's like a Harley for a kid.

1350
00:57:20,145 --> 00:57:21,312
- It transforms into something

1351
00:57:21,354 --> 00:57:23,189
much bigger than just skateboarding,

1352
00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:24,440
if you know what I mean.

1353
00:57:24,482 --> 00:57:28,111
It's more like the big brother almost.

1354
00:57:28,153 --> 00:57:30,988
And the N-Men are more important than people realize

1355
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:32,198
because of the fact that they

1356
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,449
have been around since the beginning,

1357
00:57:33,491 --> 00:57:34,700
and they still are here.

1358
00:57:34,742 --> 00:57:36,869
And that the N-Men embrace the youth.

1359
00:57:36,911 --> 00:57:39,038
They embrace anybody, it
doesn't matter what your level is,

1360
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,541
as long as you are a (speaks Spanish) rider,

1361
00:57:41,583 --> 00:57:44,168
as they say in Spanish, you know, that's all that counts.

1362
00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:47,255
And they're larger than life when it comes

1363
00:57:47,297 --> 00:57:49,173
to the skateboarding as far

1364
00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:51,968
as the family oriented in a group of guys.

1365
00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:53,928
If you know what I'm coming from, you know?

1366
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:55,597
- skateboarding is a lifestyle.

1367
00:57:56,598 --> 00:57:58,349
It's kept me healthy all my life.

1368
00:57:58,391 --> 00:58:01,519
I shattered my femur in 2010 and I still skate.

1369
00:58:01,561 --> 00:58:03,312
I can't run, but I can skate.

1370
00:58:03,354 --> 00:58:04,856
I skate better than I walk.

1371
00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:08,526
And just survival.

1372
00:58:08,568 --> 00:58:11,362
I learned survival on my own with my friends, you know,

1373
00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:14,782
and real friendships throughout the years

1374
00:58:14,824 --> 00:58:15,909
that are still here.

1375
00:58:16,701 --> 00:58:18,369
And you can't replace that.

1376
00:58:19,454 --> 00:58:22,165
Fame, fortune, you can't fucking replace that.

1377
00:58:22,207 --> 00:58:24,709
- I've met people who are very successful

1378
00:58:24,751 --> 00:58:27,545
in other forms of life and then you'll see them later,

1379
00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:29,464
and they'll almost always regret

1380
00:58:29,506 --> 00:58:31,299
that they gave up skateboarding.

1381
00:58:31,341 --> 00:58:35,678
They feel like they would almost sacrifice

1382
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,222
something that most people would think was greater.

1383
00:58:38,264 --> 00:58:42,226
To do an old trick again, or
to see an old friend, you know,

1384
00:58:42,268 --> 00:58:43,644
that they had met through skateboarding.

1385
00:58:43,686 --> 00:58:44,896
- It was crazy.

1386
00:58:44,938 --> 00:58:46,063
There were points in all of our lives

1387
00:58:46,105 --> 00:58:47,565
when we really did wake up in the morning

1388
00:58:47,607 --> 00:58:49,734
and skateboard till we laid down at night.

1389
00:58:49,776 --> 00:58:53,738
And everybody came from a similar mindset,

1390
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,449
but also the idea of the pure comradery.

1391
00:58:56,491 --> 00:58:58,034
Because for lack of a better term,

1392
00:58:58,076 --> 00:59:02,205
we were loners that formed a group of loners.

1393
00:59:02,247 --> 00:59:04,123
- All the N-Men guys are great dudes.

1394
00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:08,211
You know, if you didn't know them, you'd want to know them.

1395
00:59:08,253 --> 00:59:10,588
Because A, they'll have your back if they like you

1396
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:14,509
and you respect you and you're a standup guy, you know,

1397
00:59:14,551 --> 00:59:16,928
and B, they're just fun.

1398
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:18,763
You know, they do cool shit.

1399
00:59:18,805 --> 00:59:23,142
You know, they race, they ride pools, they surf, they ski,

1400
00:59:23,184 --> 00:59:25,228
they're just all about the action,

1401
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:26,646
you know, it's good stuff.

1402
00:59:29,357 --> 00:59:34,445
(skateboard clattering) (upbeat rock music)

1403
00:59:36,281 --> 00:59:37,990
- [Person] Practice starts in five minutes!

1404
00:59:38,032 --> 00:59:39,408
- So you're in charge?

1405
00:59:39,450 --> 00:59:44,205
(leaf blower rumbling) (upbeat rock music continues)

1406
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:55,341
- Slalom hasn't taken off much

1407
00:59:55,383 --> 00:59:58,094
in all the time that it's been going on.

1408
00:59:58,136 --> 01:00:00,346
It's still pretty much the same group of guys

1409
01:00:00,388 --> 01:00:02,306
and a little bit of young blood.

1410
01:00:02,348 --> 01:00:04,767
And my thought was to bring the downhillers into it,

1411
01:00:04,809 --> 01:00:07,395
so to have a super G course
to where it's longer and looser,

1412
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,522
more like the Olympics downhill

1413
01:00:09,564 --> 01:00:11,566
wide world of sports that you used to see.

1414
01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:16,195
- Stoked to be here for this third annual N-Men bonanza.

1415
01:00:17,572 --> 01:00:21,492
- So they started to throw an
event here in Sacramento area

1416
01:00:21,534 --> 01:00:23,661
and I come up every year

1417
01:00:23,703 --> 01:00:26,497
because I love to go fast on a skateboard.

1418
01:00:26,539 --> 01:00:28,124
Badass skate dad.

1419
01:00:29,375 --> 01:00:31,419
(skateboard clattering)

1420
01:00:31,461 --> 01:00:33,671
I love the aspect of going through gates,

1421
01:00:33,713 --> 01:00:35,256
like racing through ski gates.

1422
01:00:36,382 --> 01:00:39,218
You're literally on a path of 45 degree angle

1423
01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:42,221
on your skateboard at mock
speed, hanging on, holding on,

1424
01:00:42,263 --> 01:00:43,848
and going as fast as you can.

1425
01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:45,891
And these guys throw a great venue.

1426
01:00:45,933 --> 01:00:47,393
They always pick good hills.

1427
01:00:47,435 --> 01:00:49,770
Marty, let me build my ramp

1428
01:00:49,812 --> 01:00:51,188
that I've always wanted to show these guys.

1429
01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:52,690
You gotta have a 10 foot tall ramp.

1430
01:00:52,732 --> 01:00:55,526
Big is better, big ramp to start with, you gotta go fast.

1431
01:00:55,568 --> 01:00:57,028
And it makes guys go, "whoa, okay."

1432
01:00:57,070 --> 01:00:59,905
They think twice about going
down just for that aspect.

1433
01:00:59,947 --> 01:01:04,410
- This ramp is huge. (skateboards clattering)

1434
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:05,370
- It's fast.

1435
01:01:06,412 --> 01:01:07,330
Go fast.

1436
01:01:09,374 --> 01:01:11,667
Butterfly 65.

1437
01:01:11,709 --> 01:01:13,044
(skateboards clattering)

1438
01:01:13,086 --> 01:01:16,255
- Slalom racing is something that is so

1439
01:01:16,297 --> 01:01:19,634
amazingly technical and you know, you really,

1440
01:01:19,676 --> 01:01:23,721
your mind has to be so right in order to really go fast,

1441
01:01:23,763 --> 01:01:26,349
and to podium and to do good in the race, you know.

1442
01:01:26,391 --> 01:01:27,933
So it's very challenging.

1443
01:01:27,975 --> 01:01:30,394
- Section three, cone count. (radio beeping)

1444
01:01:30,436 --> 01:01:32,730
- Skateboarding is a sport for individuals

1445
01:01:32,772 --> 01:01:34,440
and there's something about rolling

1446
01:01:34,482 --> 01:01:36,317
over the surface of our planet,

1447
01:01:36,359 --> 01:01:38,903
you know, with the G forces you feel.

1448
01:01:38,945 --> 01:01:40,363
You can only lean so far standing up,

1449
01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:42,823
but you get on a skateboard and you turn the trucks,

1450
01:01:42,865 --> 01:01:44,575
and you can lean even further

1451
01:01:44,617 --> 01:01:47,870
and you feel those G forces as you make a smooth turn.

1452
01:01:47,912 --> 01:01:51,332
Something as basic as a turn, but it's still fun.

1453
01:01:51,374 --> 01:01:52,958
You feel the flow.

1454
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,920
- Cliff Coleman, legendary Berkeley guy, man.

1455
01:01:55,962 --> 01:01:57,380
We used to call him the Berkeley Boys

1456
01:01:57,422 --> 01:02:00,007
and we went to Berkeley,
there's a hill called Telegraph

1457
01:02:00,049 --> 01:02:02,259
that's fucking like this, right?

1458
01:02:02,301 --> 01:02:04,178
You know, and here I am, I think I'm this big downhiller,

1459
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:07,098
'cause I was in the Laguna skate contest, right?

1460
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:08,557
And here comes Cliff Coleman, man,

1461
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:11,435
they're jamming these hills at 40, 45 miles an hour.

1462
01:02:11,477 --> 01:02:14,605
And cliff's laying down these nasty slides,

1463
01:02:14,647 --> 01:02:16,691
like 60 foot slides and then popping up

1464
01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:18,025
and taking off again.

1465
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,071
Downhill kind of died off and then it came back,

1466
01:02:22,113 --> 01:02:24,740
and it came back with a whole younger group of kids.

1467
01:02:24,782 --> 01:02:26,409
Better equipment, better wheels.

1468
01:02:26,451 --> 01:02:28,619
Wheels that you can slide and they don't go away.

1469
01:02:28,661 --> 01:02:31,914
People are going 80 miles an hour stand up now.

1470
01:02:31,956 --> 01:02:34,208
And if you watch some of the big races in Europe,

1471
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:37,044
they're racing down like the
passes in France and stuff.

1472
01:02:37,086 --> 01:02:39,463
And they're going 45, 50 miles an hour,

1473
01:02:39,505 --> 01:02:41,799
slowing themselves down to 20 miles an hour

1474
01:02:41,841 --> 01:02:44,385
and coming around the turn,
it's called a Coleman slide

1475
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,346
from our boy in Berkeley, cliff Coleman.

1476
01:02:47,388 --> 01:02:50,766
I mean, he kind of wrote a chapter in downhill,

1477
01:02:50,808 --> 01:02:53,978
never got any traction till 30 years later.

1478
01:02:54,020 --> 01:02:56,605
Now all of a sudden they're flying him to Brazil.

1479
01:02:56,647 --> 01:02:59,900
He's living in Brazil teaching all these kids.

1480
01:02:59,942 --> 01:03:04,655
I mean he's had a rebirth,
you know, after all these years.

1481
01:03:04,697 --> 01:03:06,115
- It's racing cones, you know,

1482
01:03:06,157 --> 01:03:08,617
it's you against the other rider and the clock.

1483
01:03:08,659 --> 01:03:10,494
So it's a different kind of skateboarding,

1484
01:03:10,536 --> 01:03:13,164
but it's still good, good fun.

1485
01:03:13,206 --> 01:03:14,957
You can go fast in a giant slalom.

1486
01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:16,751
It's fast enough to scare you.

1487
01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:20,171
(skateboard clattering) (groovy music)

1488
01:03:20,213 --> 01:03:23,549
(skateboard whooshing)

1489
01:03:24,967 --> 01:03:27,011
- [Person] Whoa. - Whoa!

1490
01:03:27,053 --> 01:03:30,014
(crowd exclaiming) (metal clattering)

1491
01:03:30,056 --> 01:03:31,515
- And the truth is, you know, I say it all the time,

1492
01:03:31,557 --> 01:03:34,351
I like to fall because it wakes me up.

1493
01:03:34,393 --> 01:03:35,561
I don't mind getting hurt

1494
01:03:35,603 --> 01:03:37,021
because it puts you in perspective.

1495
01:03:37,063 --> 01:03:39,815
You get kind of in a slap in the face almost,

1496
01:03:39,857 --> 01:03:44,403
you know, everything does is flash almost, you know,

1497
01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:46,405
and as a skateboarder and it makes you tougher

1498
01:03:46,447 --> 01:03:48,699
and tougher and tougher and tougher in life.

1499
01:03:48,741 --> 01:03:49,784
It makes you warrior in life.

1500
01:03:49,826 --> 01:03:51,035
I believe skateboarders are some of

1501
01:03:51,077 --> 01:03:53,996
the toughest humans alive in my opinion.

1502
01:03:56,082 --> 01:03:58,250
- A guy in Korea told me one time,

1503
01:03:58,292 --> 01:03:59,960
"you know, you're supposed to hang up your toys"

1504
01:04:00,002 --> 01:04:02,505
"when you're 25 in Korea and then you go get a job"

1505
01:04:02,547 --> 01:04:05,508
"or something, but I'm 66, I'm the oldest guy."

1506
01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:08,219
"I'm always the oldest guy, but I still skateboard."

1507
01:04:08,261 --> 01:04:10,513
"I love my skateboard, I love skateboarding."

1508
01:04:10,555 --> 01:04:11,514
"I really do."

1509
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,391
(skateboard clattering) (groovy music continues)

1510
01:04:14,433 --> 01:04:16,268
- There's skateboarders that ride everything,

1511
01:04:16,310 --> 01:04:17,269
skate everything,

1512
01:04:17,311 --> 01:04:19,396
be it, you know, a backyard pool.

1513
01:04:19,438 --> 01:04:22,942
Building a ramp, a new skateboard park, a pipe,

1514
01:04:24,485 --> 01:04:26,237
wiggling through cones down a hill.

1515
01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:28,656
I mean, it's all encompassing of skateboarding.

1516
01:04:30,616 --> 01:04:32,368
- NorCal guys were gritty.

1517
01:04:32,410 --> 01:04:34,119
They had something that the southern California

1518
01:04:34,161 --> 01:04:36,914
that felt like kind of soft almost in a way.

1519
01:04:36,956 --> 01:04:38,332
- N-men, you know, it's one of

1520
01:04:38,374 --> 01:04:40,543
those kind of NorCal pride things

1521
01:04:40,585 --> 01:04:42,920
where we differentiate ourselves

1522
01:04:42,962 --> 01:04:46,257
from Southern California just based on,

1523
01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:50,427
I mean, not only geographically,
but philosophically.

1524
01:04:50,469 --> 01:04:51,554
- Southern California, they always looked at us

1525
01:04:51,596 --> 01:04:53,597
a little more polished, like trans world

1526
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:55,599
and you know, trying to do the contest thing.

1527
01:04:55,641 --> 01:04:57,560
Where as NorCal, "Eh, we're just gonna drink and party"

1528
01:04:57,602 --> 01:04:58,936
"and influence skateboarding lifestyle."

1529
01:04:58,978 --> 01:05:00,980
And I kinda always liked that more. (laughs)

1530
01:05:01,022 --> 01:05:05,192
- Not all, but some were like, "yeah, fuck SoCal."

1531
01:05:05,234 --> 01:05:07,611
And it was like, "wow, why, man?"

1532
01:05:07,653 --> 01:05:12,116
I mean, it's not, it's such a waste of time and energy

1533
01:05:12,158 --> 01:05:14,910
to hate on, I mean, we have...

1534
01:05:14,952 --> 01:05:18,455
I'm from SoCal as well and there's just as many

1535
01:05:18,497 --> 01:05:22,042
fun skate spots down here, and I don't hear people

1536
01:05:22,084 --> 01:05:24,712
from SoCal saying fuck NorCal.

1537
01:05:25,546 --> 01:05:26,505
I mean, I don't know.

1538
01:05:26,547 --> 01:05:28,424
- Because we were competitive.

1539
01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:31,552
I have to admit that I always
wanted to beat those guys

1540
01:05:31,594 --> 01:05:33,345
and one up 'em.

1541
01:05:33,387 --> 01:05:35,180
But at the same time, I think everything

1542
01:05:35,222 --> 01:05:36,348
that happened back then is what got us here

1543
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:38,475
and that had to be that way

1544
01:05:38,517 --> 01:05:41,645
in order to make skateboarding what it is now.

1545
01:05:41,687 --> 01:05:44,189
If skateboarding wasn't that way 30, 40 years ago,

1546
01:05:44,231 --> 01:05:46,025
it wouldn't be like it is now.

1547
01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:47,568
(skateboard clattering)

1548
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:50,654
- There's a huge difference
between southern California

1549
01:05:50,696 --> 01:05:53,866
and northern California when
it comes to skateboarding.

1550
01:05:55,826 --> 01:06:00,706
I mean, Northern California is this pure thrash.

1551
01:06:00,748 --> 01:06:02,208
Kick-ass, thrash shit

1552
01:06:03,250 --> 01:06:06,879
and living on the edge of life, period.

1553
01:06:10,216 --> 01:06:15,304
(skateboards clattering) (groovy music continues)

1554
01:06:26,357 --> 01:06:31,404
(seagulls cawing) (light music)

1555
01:06:32,363 --> 01:06:35,825
(skateboards clattering)

1556
01:06:36,909 --> 01:06:39,912
- Today I came 'cause of this pool.

1557
01:06:41,288 --> 01:06:44,291
Just N-Men thing, they're having a SoCal man thing.

1558
01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:47,586
(laughs) It's a S-Man, mixed with N-Men,

1559
01:06:47,628 --> 01:06:48,879
and you get this thing.

1560
01:06:50,297 --> 01:06:51,715
- So it's gonna be a special day

1561
01:06:51,757 --> 01:06:53,384
just to skate with all these guys out here.

1562
01:06:53,426 --> 01:06:56,053
We don't get to skate John's pool very much.

1563
01:06:56,095 --> 01:06:58,097
No longer resides at the residence,

1564
01:06:58,139 --> 01:07:02,559
but pool's here once in a while we get to skate it, so.

1565
01:07:02,601 --> 01:07:05,270
- [James] After John O'Shei and Doug Jones had reunited,

1566
01:07:05,312 --> 01:07:06,730
we went to interview John at the

1567
01:07:06,772 --> 01:07:09,233
Southern California N-Men reunion.

1568
01:07:09,275 --> 01:07:12,820
More than a year had passed since I had last seen him.

1569
01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:14,905
I honestly didn't even recognize John

1570
01:07:14,947 --> 01:07:16,907
when he sat down in front of me.

1571
01:07:16,949 --> 01:07:19,243
What you been up to, man?

1572
01:07:20,077 --> 01:07:21,245
- Okay, all right.

1573
01:07:21,287 --> 01:07:24,456
I'm in Vegas now and I'm back in Malibu

1574
01:07:24,498 --> 01:07:27,126
skateboarding in the session with

1575
01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:28,919
a bunch of the old boys from up north

1576
01:07:28,961 --> 01:07:31,296
and some of the Southern California crew.

1577
01:07:31,338 --> 01:07:32,715
You know, it's just a get together

1578
01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:33,966
with some of my old friends

1579
01:07:34,008 --> 01:07:36,093
that I haven't seen in a long time.

1580
01:07:36,135 --> 01:07:38,762
And the N-Men and you know, they're out in force

1581
01:07:38,804 --> 01:07:40,305
so that's why I'm here.

1582
01:07:40,347 --> 01:07:42,182
- [James] How was it to see your friend Doug Jones

1583
01:07:42,224 --> 01:07:44,852
after 37 years? - It's crazy.

1584
01:07:44,894 --> 01:07:48,522
I really thought he was dead
and I had no idea he could've,

1585
01:07:48,564 --> 01:07:50,482
he had disappeared for two decades.

1586
01:07:50,524 --> 01:07:54,945
I found out he was incarcerated and no one knew it.

1587
01:07:54,987 --> 01:07:57,990
Now he's really strung out and in a hurting way

1588
01:07:58,032 --> 01:08:00,826
and you know, a lifetime of involvement

1589
01:08:00,868 --> 01:08:04,496
in criminal culture did that to him.

1590
01:08:04,538 --> 01:08:05,789
You know, his goal was to make it

1591
01:08:05,831 --> 01:08:07,499
to this event (indistinct),

1592
01:08:07,541 --> 01:08:09,001
'cause he's got the bracelet on,

1593
01:08:09,043 --> 01:08:11,378
so he is not allowed to leave LA County, you know?

1594
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,630
But he could come to Malibu and see everybody.

1595
01:08:13,672 --> 01:08:16,091
He couldn't go to Northern
California and see everybody,

1596
01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:17,051
you know what I mean?

1597
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:18,844
When he started coming around,

1598
01:08:18,886 --> 01:08:20,804
When he got outta jail, basically.

1599
01:08:20,846 --> 01:08:24,016
You know, Jones is kind of a bipolar person

1600
01:08:24,058 --> 01:08:26,268
and I think that caught up with him on the outside.

1601
01:08:26,310 --> 01:08:28,062
Anyway, he's back in jail now, so.

1602
01:08:29,438 --> 01:08:31,648
But, I'm gonna go visit him.

1603
01:08:31,690 --> 01:08:35,444
(somber music) - N for life!

1604
01:08:39,782 --> 01:08:41,241
- N-Men is a way of thinking.

1605
01:08:41,283 --> 01:08:45,829
It's a point of view and a shared history

1606
01:08:45,871 --> 01:08:48,499
So you know, that's what I like about it.

1607
01:08:48,541 --> 01:08:53,587
(skateboards clattering) (somber music continues)

1608
01:08:55,881 --> 01:09:00,886
(skateboard clattering) (somber music)

1609
01:09:03,597 --> 01:09:04,807
- [James] Several months later,

1610
01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:06,767
Doug Jones was released from jail.

1611
01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:11,105
John had made arrangements to bring Doug up

1612
01:09:11,147 --> 01:09:13,774
from Southern California to the annual N-Men race.

1613
01:09:13,816 --> 01:09:15,442
(skateboards whooshing)

1614
01:09:15,484 --> 01:09:17,402
It would be the first time Doug Jones

1615
01:09:17,444 --> 01:09:20,614
would be reuniting with the N-Men in over 30 years.

1616
01:09:20,656 --> 01:09:22,825
(somber music continues)

1617
01:09:22,867 --> 01:09:24,535
The N-Men were stoked at the idea

1618
01:09:24,577 --> 01:09:27,204
of getting the whole crew back together.

1619
01:09:27,246 --> 01:09:30,624
(skateboards clattering)

1620
01:09:30,666 --> 01:09:32,167
- Are you kidding?

1621
01:09:32,209 --> 01:09:35,295
I just want to kiss his cheek
and see if he's in one piece.

1622
01:09:35,337 --> 01:09:38,715
You know, it's only been 30 years

1623
01:09:38,757 --> 01:09:42,970
since we sent him to Florida
to clean up and get better.

1624
01:09:43,012 --> 01:09:45,347
- The way everybody's lives
are all different directions,

1625
01:09:45,389 --> 01:09:48,350
but eventually everybody
cross and intersect again.

1626
01:09:48,392 --> 01:09:50,144
You know, somehow that's what this all about.

1627
01:09:50,186 --> 01:09:52,688
So we're able to do it now at this time of our lives

1628
01:09:52,730 --> 01:09:55,107
because there won't be many times after this.

1629
01:09:55,149 --> 01:09:56,358
Right?

1630
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,568
You know, it's amazing we all made it this far.

1631
01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:59,111
- We're old, we're not supposed to be here.

1632
01:09:59,153 --> 01:10:00,320
(all chuckling)

1633
01:10:00,362 --> 01:10:03,699
- You know, it's been what 40, 45 years?

1634
01:10:04,783 --> 01:10:07,119
Yeah, that's a long time.

1635
01:10:07,161 --> 01:10:10,998
(skateboard whooshing) (somber music continues)

1636
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,375
Most people don't stay with things that long.

1637
01:10:13,417 --> 01:10:14,501
You know what I mean?

1638
01:10:15,836 --> 01:10:19,756
Things get in the way and
they go on and do other things.

1639
01:10:19,798 --> 01:10:23,552
I mean, you know, I quit shooting pictures, you know?

1640
01:10:23,594 --> 01:10:25,721
I don't know what brought that on,

1641
01:10:25,763 --> 01:10:28,807
but it some, you know, something in your lifestyle

1642
01:10:28,849 --> 01:10:31,810
changes and you move on.

1643
01:10:31,852 --> 01:10:34,521
(camera clicking) (skateboard whooshing)

1644
01:10:34,563 --> 01:10:35,939
- Really honestly, it's rad

1645
01:10:35,981 --> 01:10:38,567
that you guys came out and did this.

1646
01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:40,194
Some of you guys are older than dirt

1647
01:10:40,236 --> 01:10:43,197
and some of you guys are just moldy dirt,

1648
01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:45,282
and some of you guys are young dirt.

1649
01:10:45,324 --> 01:10:49,119
But the old moldy dirt, it was really rad.

1650
01:10:49,161 --> 01:10:50,954
(indistinct chatter)

1651
01:10:50,996 --> 01:10:51,997
- Here's first place.

1652
01:10:53,415 --> 01:10:55,042
- Thanks there, Marty.

1653
01:10:55,084 --> 01:10:56,293
- God bless you, man. - Love you, brother.

1654
01:10:56,335 --> 01:10:57,669
(person cheers) - All together here.

1655
01:10:57,711 --> 01:10:59,963
- For this guy, for this guy.

1656
01:11:00,005 --> 01:11:02,716
(somber music continues)

1657
01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:04,509
- [James] It was another successful downhill race

1658
01:11:04,551 --> 01:11:05,719
put on by the N-Men.

1659
01:11:07,554 --> 01:11:10,683
But unfortunately Doug and John never showed up.

1660
01:11:12,518 --> 01:11:14,811
I wondered what had happened to them.

1661
01:11:14,853 --> 01:11:17,314
Later that day we got a text from John

1662
01:11:17,356 --> 01:11:19,900
Doug had ended up back in jail again.

1663
01:11:21,402 --> 01:11:24,988
(somber music continues)

1664
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:28,075
(people laughing) (indistinct chatter)

1665
01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:30,286
- And the N-Men have been around since 1975

1666
01:11:31,620 --> 01:11:34,164
and we've bolstered many,
many friends in the industry,

1667
01:11:34,206 --> 01:11:35,582
many, many friends locally,

1668
01:11:35,624 --> 01:11:37,751
many friends in Northern California.

1669
01:11:37,793 --> 01:11:39,503
And we're still going strong.

1670
01:11:39,545 --> 01:11:41,755
And I wanna thank everybody for being part of this.

1671
01:11:41,797 --> 01:11:45,884
- To this day, when someone says N-Men, I think of my dad,

1672
01:11:45,926 --> 01:11:49,179
the reason why we have a party
every year is because of him.

1673
01:11:49,221 --> 01:11:50,847
When it comes down to it, he's the one that put the time

1674
01:11:50,889 --> 01:11:54,476
and the effort to make this
stay alive because he loves it.

1675
01:11:54,518 --> 01:11:57,396
This isn't about him, it's about the group of people.

1676
01:11:57,438 --> 01:12:01,149
It is what it is because he's kept it alive

1677
01:12:01,191 --> 01:12:04,528
and the passion for it, and everyone that's involved.

1678
01:12:04,570 --> 01:12:07,322
- Katen's my key go-to guy

1679
01:12:07,364 --> 01:12:12,202
'cause he's like, he epitomizes Sacramento to me.

1680
01:12:12,244 --> 01:12:14,788
- And like Randy goes back so far

1681
01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:18,166
and you know, he's a hundred percent skateboarder.

1682
01:12:18,208 --> 01:12:19,418
He just blows me away.

1683
01:12:20,461 --> 01:12:21,712
Yeah, it's an honor to know him.

1684
01:12:21,754 --> 01:12:24,339
You know, he's triple OG in my book, you know.

1685
01:12:24,381 --> 01:12:26,174
- All I gotta say is if there's ever an encyclopedia

1686
01:12:26,216 --> 01:12:27,718
of skateboarding and they want a picture

1687
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,762
of a definition of a hardcore skateboarder,

1688
01:12:30,804 --> 01:12:32,806
they gotta have a picture of Katen in there.

1689
01:12:32,848 --> 01:12:35,392
'Cause nobody's ever been
more dedicated, charge harder,

1690
01:12:35,434 --> 01:12:36,893
been more into it and been more

1691
01:12:36,935 --> 01:12:39,062
into the spirit of what skating is.

1692
01:12:39,104 --> 01:12:41,481
Katen's one of the best men I've ever met.

1693
01:12:41,523 --> 01:12:45,527
- Yeah, the N-Men are really
important to skateboarding,

1694
01:12:45,569 --> 01:12:48,155
just like Dogtown and Z-Boys are.

1695
01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:50,699
But the one thing that remains is the M-Men

1696
01:12:50,741 --> 01:12:54,578
have not stopped skateboarding since 1974 ever.

1697
01:12:54,620 --> 01:12:55,787
They're still doing it.

1698
01:12:55,829 --> 01:12:57,122
I'm proud to be a part of it.

1699
01:12:57,164 --> 01:12:59,041
- I think it's an important story

1700
01:12:59,083 --> 01:13:02,544
the N-Men spread out other
than just the Sacramento area,

1701
01:13:02,586 --> 01:13:05,714
they kind of engulfed the
whole northern California area

1702
01:13:05,756 --> 01:13:08,467
and there was a good group pf skaters here

1703
01:13:08,509 --> 01:13:10,052
and there still is.

1704
01:13:10,094 --> 01:13:14,097
- Not all of us were honor roll students,

1705
01:13:14,139 --> 01:13:15,807
as you might probably know.

1706
01:13:15,849 --> 01:13:17,934
It's not just the skating that brought us together,

1707
01:13:17,976 --> 01:13:20,270
but it's kind of this lifestyle.

1708
01:13:20,312 --> 01:13:23,940
You know, a lot of people have
been through some rough times

1709
01:13:23,982 --> 01:13:25,776
and it's good to know that,

1710
01:13:25,818 --> 01:13:28,820
you know, they're still going strong.

1711
01:13:28,862 --> 01:13:31,740
- You had to have loyalty, integrity,

1712
01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:33,200
you had to be a standup guy.

1713
01:13:33,242 --> 01:13:34,659
You know what I'm saying?

1714
01:13:34,701 --> 01:13:38,288
And those guys in there to
this day are still those guys.

1715
01:13:38,330 --> 01:13:40,832
- And who they are is what you get, so,

1716
01:13:40,874 --> 01:13:43,126
and I think everybody has a lot of respect for that.

1717
01:13:43,168 --> 01:13:46,129
- If you don't have any good
family background and stuff,

1718
01:13:46,171 --> 01:13:49,174
you've got your skate family
and you can always rely on 'em.

1719
01:13:49,216 --> 01:13:50,384
They got your back.

1720
01:13:50,426 --> 01:13:52,135
They give you a ride, they help you out,

1721
01:13:52,177 --> 01:13:54,096
loan you money or feed you.

1722
01:13:54,138 --> 01:13:55,889
You know, I love that.

1723
01:13:55,931 --> 01:13:58,934
- They're family guys, they have kids,

1724
01:13:58,976 --> 01:14:00,435
but they still find the time to skate

1725
01:14:00,477 --> 01:14:01,645
and make it a part of their,

1726
01:14:01,687 --> 01:14:03,730
you know, really their daily ritual.

1727
01:14:03,772 --> 01:14:05,315
- You know, it takes a village.

1728
01:14:05,357 --> 01:14:08,318
It totally takes a village to make this all happen.

1729
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,861
- It's really hard to predict where the future's going,

1730
01:14:09,903 --> 01:14:12,656
but I don't see this disappearing anytime soon.

1731
01:14:12,698 --> 01:14:14,116
If I can and my sister can,

1732
01:14:14,158 --> 01:14:16,701
then we're gonna be a big part of keeping it around, so.

1733
01:14:16,743 --> 01:14:20,622
(dogs barking) (upbeat rock music)

1734
01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:24,751
- The next generation is
Catherine Folsom, who's a ripper.

1735
01:14:24,793 --> 01:14:27,170
You know, she's a mom, she's an educator.

1736
01:14:27,212 --> 01:14:30,090
She is learning tricks still at the age of 32.

1737
01:14:30,132 --> 01:14:31,049
- I did it!

1738
01:14:32,926 --> 01:14:34,261
- We built this ramp in our backyard

1739
01:14:34,303 --> 01:14:35,846
and she was skating there every day.

1740
01:14:35,888 --> 01:14:38,557
It was such a weird point when she finally got the bug.

1741
01:14:38,599 --> 01:14:39,641
I tripped out.

1742
01:14:39,683 --> 01:14:41,101
I could tell she got it too.

1743
01:14:41,143 --> 01:14:43,604
It was just like, she just wanted to get better.

1744
01:14:45,564 --> 01:14:47,149
- I take pride in being N-Men.

1745
01:14:47,191 --> 01:14:48,859
(laughs) It sounds cool.

1746
01:14:48,901 --> 01:14:52,404
(upbeat rock music continues) (Catherine growling)

1747
01:14:52,446 --> 01:14:53,864
(crowd whistling)

1748
01:14:53,906 --> 01:14:56,491
- [Announcer] Catherine Folsom is N-Men of the Year.

1749
01:14:56,533 --> 01:15:01,538
(crowd cheering) (upbeat rock music continues)

1750
01:15:08,253 --> 01:15:11,381
(all cheering)

1751
01:15:11,423 --> 01:15:15,552
- I just got a N-Men of the year. (laughs)

1752
01:15:15,594 --> 01:15:16,845
It's pretty awesome.

1753
01:15:16,887 --> 01:15:18,805
I am definitely the first woman

1754
01:15:18,847 --> 01:15:20,765
to ever get N-Men of the year.

1755
01:15:20,807 --> 01:15:24,645
(Catherine yells and laughs)

1756
01:15:26,021 --> 01:15:28,356
- The other N-Woman that I saw skate

1757
01:15:28,398 --> 01:15:30,442
recently was a Beverly Flood.

1758
01:15:31,485 --> 01:15:33,987
Shows that the next generation is coming up

1759
01:15:34,029 --> 01:15:35,155
and carrying on the torch of,

1760
01:15:35,197 --> 01:15:37,073
you know, what it is to be N.

1761
01:15:37,115 --> 01:15:41,411
- I saw this group, I think it was five years ago

1762
01:15:41,453 --> 01:15:43,330
and I started just going for it.

1763
01:15:43,372 --> 01:15:46,875
And skating, skating with
all these legends over here.

1764
01:15:48,335 --> 01:15:52,672
- Long after I'm gone and Steve-O's gone and Martin's gone.

1765
01:15:52,714 --> 01:15:56,092
There's gonna be kids carrying
on this whole N-Men thing.

1766
01:15:56,134 --> 01:15:59,346
We're gonna put it in place where it'll be in good hands

1767
01:15:59,388 --> 01:16:02,265
and it'll go on to another generation.

1768
01:16:02,307 --> 01:16:04,142
(uplifting music)

1769
01:16:04,184 --> 01:16:07,729
We're in Auburn, California at
Eric and Andrea Biebelheimer

1770
01:16:07,771 --> 01:16:10,274
and it's an amazing deal they got here.

1771
01:16:11,984 --> 01:16:14,694
It's the skate family, Miles and Tim skate,

1772
01:16:14,736 --> 01:16:17,489
Andrea and Eric, they all skate.

1773
01:16:17,531 --> 01:16:22,619
They've built this amazing
clover leaf swimming pool

1774
01:16:23,704 --> 01:16:25,121
for skateboarding in their backyards.

1775
01:16:25,163 --> 01:16:27,123
Thursday nights and Sundays when they're in town,

1776
01:16:27,165 --> 01:16:30,794
it's a skate session and for anybody like that

1777
01:16:30,836 --> 01:16:34,631
to open their home to people who love what we do

1778
01:16:34,673 --> 01:16:37,050
is all part of the plan, you know?

1779
01:16:37,092 --> 01:16:40,136
- It's really, pretty deluxe, you know?

1780
01:16:40,178 --> 01:16:44,766
And so it's definitely not
Minor 49er, it's the shit legit.

1781
01:16:45,851 --> 01:16:48,228
They really created something amazing here.

1782
01:16:48,270 --> 01:16:49,437
It's world class.

1783
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,898
It's not just somebody's backyard grunt pool.

1784
01:16:51,940 --> 01:16:54,734
It just seems legit, you know, and it's really fun.

1785
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:56,653
Props to them for doing that.

1786
01:16:56,695 --> 01:16:59,155
(uplifting music continues)

1787
01:16:59,197 --> 01:17:01,825
- They have a great organization called SkateMD

1788
01:17:01,867 --> 01:17:05,161
where they take a road show on the road

1789
01:17:05,203 --> 01:17:06,746
with tons of skateboards and equipment,

1790
01:17:06,788 --> 01:17:09,874
and they go and they share
the skateboard experience

1791
01:17:09,916 --> 01:17:12,294
with different types of organizations

1792
01:17:12,336 --> 01:17:13,753
that have disabled children.

1793
01:17:13,795 --> 01:17:15,005
They bring everybody together.

1794
01:17:15,047 --> 01:17:16,881
It's been a really successful program.

1795
01:17:16,923 --> 01:17:20,594
I mean, they're all about giving
back through skateboarding.

1796
01:17:21,803 --> 01:17:23,930
- [All] SkateMD, SkateMD!

1797
01:17:24,890 --> 01:17:26,516
- I feel like I've learned a lot

1798
01:17:26,558 --> 01:17:28,268
from skateboarding over the years.

1799
01:17:29,686 --> 01:17:32,689
And for life, it's not just about being N-Men, whatever.

1800
01:17:32,731 --> 01:17:35,609
It's about being in life.

1801
01:17:35,651 --> 01:17:39,779
Living in life. (uplifting music continues)

1802
01:17:39,821 --> 01:17:42,741
- The age span of N-Men, it's undefinable really.

1803
01:17:42,783 --> 01:17:47,037
It's, yeah, anywhere from 70 years old to 10 years older.

1804
01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:48,705
It's generations.

1805
01:17:48,747 --> 01:17:51,374
It's not really like you have to fit

1806
01:17:51,416 --> 01:17:55,378
into a certain age category or a certain style.

1807
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:56,880
It's an attitude more than anything.

1808
01:17:56,922 --> 01:18:00,800
- A lot of kids don't have the potential

1809
01:18:00,842 --> 01:18:03,345
from their family or their influence from anyone

1810
01:18:03,387 --> 01:18:06,765
to give them the true roots of what skateboarding is.

1811
01:18:06,807 --> 01:18:09,100
So they can learn from a book,

1812
01:18:09,142 --> 01:18:12,312
they can learn from seeing other kids doing it, right?

1813
01:18:12,354 --> 01:18:14,230
But to truly get it hardcore

1814
01:18:14,272 --> 01:18:17,025
is they almost need a big brother

1815
01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:18,234
or somebody, you know what I mean?

1816
01:18:18,276 --> 01:18:20,695
To give 'em kind of the school of hard knocks.

1817
01:18:20,737 --> 01:18:23,073
- Long hairs, dude, we shred. Skaters!

1818
01:18:23,115 --> 01:18:24,574
Whew!

1819
01:18:24,616 --> 01:18:28,161
- Dartanyan reminds me of Dave
Morehouse when he was young.

1820
01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:31,706
He skates almost exactly the same way.

1821
01:18:31,748 --> 01:18:33,416
He's got most of his stuff

1822
01:18:33,458 --> 01:18:35,752
is totally seventies old school skateboarding,

1823
01:18:35,794 --> 01:18:38,922
and they both have that long flowing hair.

1824
01:18:38,964 --> 01:18:41,257
- Teaching the next generation.

1825
01:18:41,299 --> 01:18:43,968
(uplifting music continues)

1826
01:18:44,010 --> 01:18:45,679
- The thing I could say to the kids more than anything

1827
01:18:45,721 --> 01:18:47,305
is don't let it die.

1828
01:18:48,140 --> 01:18:49,140
Carry it on.

1829
01:18:49,182 --> 01:18:50,725
The youth is the future.

1830
01:18:50,767 --> 01:18:54,312
And the youth needs to carry on what the N-Men started.

1831
01:18:54,354 --> 01:18:55,980
- We all love to relive the old days.

1832
01:18:56,022 --> 01:18:58,650
We all love to tell each other
how great we are and were,

1833
01:18:58,692 --> 01:19:03,196
but it's actually something
that was bigger than all of us.

1834
01:19:03,238 --> 01:19:05,156
We all, you know, go different paths,

1835
01:19:05,198 --> 01:19:07,575
but we all still live on the same plane.

1836
01:19:07,617 --> 01:19:09,994
That's why it is a greater shared experience

1837
01:19:10,036 --> 01:19:13,164
because we are all more experienced in life

1838
01:19:13,206 --> 01:19:16,543
and we understand what it really was.

1839
01:19:16,585 --> 01:19:18,378
Even though we didn't really know back then

1840
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:21,047
and we respected even more now for being so.

1841
01:19:22,507 --> 01:19:24,801
- In every town in America,

1842
01:19:24,843 --> 01:19:28,680
there are the kids that their life is shit.

1843
01:19:32,517 --> 01:19:37,606
And skateboarding can put you in a place

1844
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:42,485
where you can gain control of that.

1845
01:19:42,527 --> 01:19:43,987
Okay?

1846
01:19:44,029 --> 01:19:48,450
All the negativity can be put in second behind you

1847
01:19:49,743 --> 01:19:51,327
when you have the freedom of riding your board

1848
01:19:51,369 --> 01:19:54,497
with your friends in an environment

1849
01:19:54,539 --> 01:19:57,000
where you have total acceptance.

1850
01:19:57,042 --> 01:20:01,171
But if you got a board and
you are in there with the crew,

1851
01:20:01,213 --> 01:20:02,964
then you're part of it, man.

1852
01:20:03,006 --> 01:20:03,965
You're part of it.

1853
01:20:05,383 --> 01:20:08,511
- The N-Men have been there for me as a group of people

1854
01:20:08,553 --> 01:20:11,681
when I really didn't have anybody else.

1855
01:20:11,723 --> 01:20:14,517
Always be able to skate with Bix,

1856
01:20:14,559 --> 01:20:15,811
any one of the guys.

1857
01:20:16,728 --> 01:20:18,855
Doug Jones, we've been-

1858
01:20:18,897 --> 01:20:20,273
- Don't listen to this guy.

1859
01:20:20,315 --> 01:20:24,236
(all exclaiming and laughing)

1860
01:20:25,612 --> 01:20:28,615
- See, this is exactly what I fucking was talking about.

1861
01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:30,700
See. - Never trust a Pirate.

1862
01:20:30,742 --> 01:20:31,534
- It's all lies!

1863
01:20:31,576 --> 01:20:32,911
It's all lies!

1864
01:20:32,953 --> 01:20:34,829
- See, that's what I mean, family.

1865
01:20:34,871 --> 01:20:39,584
This is my family. (uplifting music continues)

1866
01:20:42,295 --> 01:20:44,840
(somber music)

1867
01:20:51,304 --> 01:20:52,472
- [Person] All right,

1868
01:20:52,514 --> 01:20:53,457
we are rolling. - [James] You want him

1869
01:20:53,499 --> 01:20:54,307
to clap?

1870
01:20:54,349 --> 01:20:55,391
- [Person] Sure, yeah. - [James] All right.

1871
01:20:55,433 --> 01:20:56,226
Here we are.

1872
01:20:56,268 --> 01:20:57,936
February 16th.

1873
01:20:59,229 --> 01:21:00,897
- Yes. - [James] 2019.

1874
01:21:00,939 --> 01:21:01,815
- Yes sir.

1875
01:21:02,607 --> 01:21:03,817
- [James] How you been?

1876
01:21:03,859 --> 01:21:06,862
- I've been fine, a lot better than I have.

1877
01:21:08,530 --> 01:21:09,906
- [James] What's been going on?

1878
01:21:09,948 --> 01:21:13,785
- Well, I just got outta jail on the seventh.

1879
01:21:14,828 --> 01:21:16,538
Well, actually Super Bowl Sunday.

1880
01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:17,580
- [James] How long were you in jail?

1881
01:21:17,622 --> 01:21:18,748
- Eight months.

1882
01:21:20,292 --> 01:21:22,460
I just don't want ever go back to that lifestyle again.

1883
01:21:22,502 --> 01:21:24,629
I wanna get far away from it as possible.

1884
01:21:26,464 --> 01:21:29,676
I know what I'm capable of and I know where I've been.

1885
01:21:30,969 --> 01:21:34,222
And the path that I'm going down right now.

1886
01:21:34,264 --> 01:21:36,850
It's killing me. (sobs)

1887
01:21:39,394 --> 01:21:41,187
I'm very tired.

1888
01:21:41,229 --> 01:21:42,647
You know, I'm battered.

1889
01:21:45,358 --> 01:21:49,362
About almost a month after I went in,

1890
01:21:49,404 --> 01:21:52,991
I called my mother down in Miami and she told me,

1891
01:21:54,326 --> 01:21:56,160
asked me, "have I talked to John?"

1892
01:21:56,202 --> 01:21:56,995
I said, "no."

1893
01:21:59,581 --> 01:22:00,665
I called back the next day

1894
01:22:00,707 --> 01:22:02,709
and she said he was in the hospital.

1895
01:22:04,002 --> 01:22:06,379
He's on life support. (sobs)

1896
01:22:13,303 --> 01:22:14,179
That’s my boy!

1897
01:22:16,848 --> 01:22:19,142
And the next thing I called, they said he was dead.

1898
01:22:19,184 --> 01:22:22,729
They took him off life support. (sobs)

1899
01:22:25,982 --> 01:22:28,193
That was my bro, man.

1900
01:22:30,528 --> 01:22:31,905
That was family, man.

1901
01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:35,992
He was the best friend I ever
had in my whole entire life.

1902
01:22:36,034 --> 01:22:38,328
I loved him more than my own brother.

1903
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:40,663
My flesh blood brother, man.

1904
01:22:40,705 --> 01:22:42,040
John was my family.

1905
01:22:42,082 --> 01:22:44,000
There was no question about it.

1906
01:22:44,042 --> 01:22:45,376
You know, I'd die for John.

1907
01:22:45,418 --> 01:22:48,338
I would take my life before him.

1908
01:22:48,380 --> 01:22:49,881
That's how I felt about it.

1909
01:22:54,052 --> 01:22:55,887
I loved John 'cause he cared.

1910
01:22:55,929 --> 01:22:57,472
He cared about people.

1911
01:22:58,640 --> 01:22:59,849
He loved to help people

1912
01:22:59,891 --> 01:23:01,851
and he didn't like to see anybody suffer.

1913
01:23:02,894 --> 01:23:05,230
John had an enormous heart

1914
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,607
and he cared about me.

1915
01:23:09,776 --> 01:23:11,861
- [James] Doug, what would you say

1916
01:23:11,903 --> 01:23:13,821
to the skateboarding world?

1917
01:23:13,863 --> 01:23:15,990
- I'd say enjoy what you have now,

1918
01:23:16,032 --> 01:23:18,284
and my friends, you know?

1919
01:23:18,326 --> 01:23:21,454
You know, my friends, you know, they...

1920
01:23:21,496 --> 01:23:22,705
N-Men for life.

1921
01:23:22,747 --> 01:23:24,624
There, that's what it's all about.

1922
01:23:24,666 --> 01:23:25,541
They're for life.

1923
01:23:25,583 --> 01:23:27,043
They're my friends for life.

1924
01:23:27,085 --> 01:23:29,963
They've showed me, you know, that they're here.

1925
01:23:30,005 --> 01:23:34,342
You know, no matter what my situations were

1926
01:23:34,384 --> 01:23:36,761
in the time I was gone, when I returned,

1927
01:23:36,803 --> 01:23:39,180
they're here and they're there for me.

1928
01:23:39,222 --> 01:23:40,556
They're here for me.

1929
01:23:40,598 --> 01:23:45,186
You know, that's what it means to me.

1930
01:23:45,228 --> 01:23:47,271
(somber music) (camera reel clicking)

1931
01:23:47,313 --> 01:23:49,399
- [John] An empty pool holds a special place

1932
01:23:49,441 --> 01:23:52,652
in the hearts of anybody who has ever skated one.

1933
01:23:52,694 --> 01:23:54,404
Does anybody out there find themselves

1934
01:23:54,446 --> 01:23:58,282
scanning the landscape
for skate spots as they drive?

1935
01:23:58,324 --> 01:24:00,952
I still do, everywhere I go.

1936
01:24:01,995 --> 01:24:04,205
Or when you're taking off on a plane,

1937
01:24:04,247 --> 01:24:07,250
do you look out the window
for empty pools, square pools,

1938
01:24:07,292 --> 01:24:09,794
kidneys, keyholes, figure eights?

1939
01:24:11,171 --> 01:24:14,257
As long as they're empty, they give me a hard on.

1940
01:24:14,299 --> 01:24:17,760
I love the whole feel of being in a pool with no water.

1941
01:24:17,802 --> 01:24:19,762
There's something surreal about it,

1942
01:24:19,804 --> 01:24:22,140
like being in a Salvador Dolly painting.

1943
01:24:23,224 --> 01:24:25,685
There's something odd and unnatural about it,

1944
01:24:26,811 --> 01:24:27,771
but pleasing.

1945
01:24:28,813 --> 01:24:32,317
(somber music continues)

1946
01:24:36,821 --> 01:24:40,825
(skateboard clattering softly)

1947
01:24:48,208 --> 01:24:51,294
(upbeat rock music)

1948
01:24:54,422 --> 01:24:56,340
(hands claps) - Ow!

1949
01:24:56,382 --> 01:24:58,009
(upbeat rock music)

1950
01:24:58,051 --> 01:24:59,677
- [James] What do you know about the N-Men?

1951
01:25:01,513 --> 01:25:05,641
- Ancient, methodical creatures.

1952
01:25:05,683 --> 01:25:07,393
- You were so good, nobody would skate 'em

1953
01:25:07,435 --> 01:25:08,770
and you would pick the ricks outta the magazine.

1954
01:25:08,812 --> 01:25:09,937
- No, no.

1955
01:25:09,979 --> 01:25:11,022
We're talking about music now, so-

1956
01:25:11,064 --> 01:25:11,981
- No, you ran. - These guys come along-

1957
01:25:12,023 --> 01:25:12,648
- You ran. - Yeah, yeah.

1958
01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:14,108
- Okay, fine.

1959
01:25:14,150 --> 01:25:15,276
- So you have to grab a handful of forks and knives.

1960
01:25:15,318 --> 01:25:16,486
One, two, three, whoo!

1961
01:25:16,528 --> 01:25:18,446
And it'd be you chuck 'em and be like, ah!

1962
01:25:18,488 --> 01:25:20,656
I learned like that from them, that's what I remember.

1963
01:25:20,698 --> 01:25:21,866
Wow, this is crazy.

1964
01:25:21,908 --> 01:25:22,992
I wouldn't trade this for the world.

1965
01:25:23,034 --> 01:25:24,702
What the fuck am I doing?

1966
01:25:24,744 --> 01:25:25,995
♪ One, two, three, four

1967
01:25:26,037 --> 01:25:27,163
♪ We don't care what you're people say ♪

1968
01:25:27,205 --> 01:25:28,706
- Damn skateboards.

1969
01:25:28,748 --> 01:25:30,166
- You went and did a demo in Sacramento.

1970
01:25:30,208 --> 01:25:31,417
Go skate.

1971
01:25:31,459 --> 01:25:32,919
That was, it was a hardcore crowd.

1972
01:25:32,961 --> 01:25:35,254
I remember, like, I did a
demo with Cav in the parking lot

1973
01:25:35,296 --> 01:25:38,508
and then there were all these
weird little like spine ramps

1974
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:40,259
and then-(indistinct chatter)

1975
01:25:40,301 --> 01:25:42,303
Yeah and we would just keep moving stuff around

1976
01:25:42,345 --> 01:25:43,721
to create a new obstacle.

1977
01:25:45,014 --> 01:25:45,848
Yeah.

1978
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:47,600
Yeah, that was sick.

1979
01:25:47,642 --> 01:25:49,352
♪ Tonight

1980
01:25:49,394 --> 01:25:51,354
- Still running the whole deal.

1981
01:25:51,396 --> 01:25:53,689
Hold on buddy! (all laughing)

1982
01:25:53,731 --> 01:25:55,691
This is N-Men, bro!

1983
01:25:55,733 --> 01:25:56,692
- What is an N-Men?

1984
01:25:56,734 --> 01:25:57,527
Northern man.

1985
01:25:57,569 --> 01:25:58,778
It's fucking...

1986
01:25:58,820 --> 01:26:00,029
They're a badass group of old guys

1987
01:26:00,071 --> 01:26:01,864
that fucking tear it up in skate parks still.

1988
01:26:01,906 --> 01:26:04,700
- It's something that I'll do till the day I die.

1989
01:26:04,742 --> 01:26:05,660
Period.

1990
01:26:08,496 --> 01:26:09,705
♪ Our right to fight

1991
01:26:09,747 --> 01:26:10,915
- What else can I say?

1992
01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:15,044
(upbeat rock music)

1993
01:26:17,422 --> 01:26:22,510
♪ Our right to fight

1994
01:26:26,222 --> 01:26:31,269
♪ Our right to fight

1995
01:26:35,106 --> 01:26:38,985
♪ Our right to fight

1996
01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:42,947
(upbeat rock music continues)