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Around the world, the Cold War
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is being replaced
by a new world...
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Josip Broz Tito.
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His death left
a political vacuum...
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...that is anything but orderly.
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...and led to a wave
of nationalism.
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That's the news for now.
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Stay tuned for more...
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A peaceful, popular uprising
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against the oppressiveness
of Communist rule.
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Beanie Babies...
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What was left of
Yugoslavia's federal government
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apparently has collapsed.
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The man at the heart
of the crisis
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is Slobodan Milosevic.
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...uh, we are blamed
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that we want to create
Greater Serbia.
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...and liftoff.
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We are not
going to get bogged down
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in some guerrilla warfare.
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You and I have witnessed
the historic
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and revolutionary
transformation...
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Thousands and thousands
of West Germans
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come to make the point
that the Wall
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has suddenly become irrelevant.
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Something, as you can see,
almost to party on.
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How do you measure such an
astonishing moment in history?
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Your government
seems to be changing every day.
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Where do you think it's going?
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"That's the government's
problem," he says, "not mine."
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People were trying to figure out
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what was happening after
the fall of the Soviet Union.
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With the Berlin Wall
coming down
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and the Eastern bloc
falling apart,
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Europe was reshaping itself
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and in a particularly
violent way in Yugoslavia.
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Yugoslavia was breaking up.
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It was ready-made for trouble.
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Bosnia was important
to the Serbs
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because they were trying
to save
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as much of the former
Yugoslavia as possible
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to be in a Serb-dominated core.
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And the elite in Yugoslavia,
particularly in Serbia,
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became concerned how they would
hold on to power.
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The main one
was Slobodan Milosevic,
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who was leader of
the now crumbling Yugoslavia.
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He wanted to go all over
the former Yugoslavia and grab,
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if he could,
those pieces of territory
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where Serbs had been living.
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Milosevic was a banker.
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He was not a true nationalist,
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but nationalism became
his tool to hold on to power.
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Sometimes the more
absurd the lie is,
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the more effective it is.
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We were being hypnotized.
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We were so blind.
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It all felt like something
was going to happen.
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At that time,
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armed soldiers came
into the bus
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and, uh, starting to collect
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our IDs
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in order to make assessment
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to which ethnicity
each of us belonged.
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When they saw my ID card,
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my name was totally typical
for Yugoslavia.
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But Senad's ID card
says that his name,
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they called it Muslim name,
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so it could be danger for him.
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Yugoslavia was
an ethnically diverse country,
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and Sarajevo was the center
of that diversity.
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For Milosevic,
that represented a threat.
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The ethnicities had not just
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lived together in harmony
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but intermarried.
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We used to say,
you can't divide this nation
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because you can't divide
a household.
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You'd have to go through
the bedrooms,
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through the kitchens,
through the living rooms
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and put up Berlin Walls.
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Sarajevo
is a place where people
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had lived together, always.
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We never, ever cared
about ethnicity
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or different religions.
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I was brought up that way.
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It was the heart of culture.
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It was the heart of arts.
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It was a very, very bright,
shining light, Sarajevo.
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And they needed to kill
that light.
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The Yugoslav Army,
which had been
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the fourth or fifth largest army
in the world,
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became Milosevic's
Serbian army.
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And that army
was turned upon Sarajevo
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to terrorize its people.
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Imagine a president
of the United States
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taking the U.S. military and
making it into his own army.
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He encircles New York City.
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He fires upon his people.
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He terrorizes the population.
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That's what Milosevic did
to Sarajevo.
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It represented a threat
to his idea of creating
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a homogeneous Serbian
nationalist state.
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300 meters from our bedroom,
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suddenly, one tank emerged.
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You have the Yugoslav Army
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supposed to protect you,
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and all of a sudden,
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your protector becomes
a monster.
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We did not believe
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that war is going
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to happen
six months into the war.
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I never believed for one second
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until people started dying
around me
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that the war is happening.
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You are under the siege.
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You're being a hostage.
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Uh, they're shooting at us.
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We're there like sitting ducks.
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I will never have so much hate
to do them how they do to us.
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Everything has changed.
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Everything what we used
to live as, uh,
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let's say civilization rules,
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is, uh, uh, destroyed.
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If they needed
to go out and get food,
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they would get shot at.
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If they needed to get water,
tanks would fire upon them.
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Even if a child tried
to go to school,
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he would become a target.
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If they tried in any way
to leave the city...
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they would be killed.
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I was a really
young reporter then.
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I got there maybe
about two months after
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the actual referendum
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on freedom and independence
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that broke up Yugoslavia.
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It was the first war
where journalists
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were purposefully
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targeted.
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- We had cars
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that were clearly indicated
with "TV."
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They would shoot sometimes
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through the "T" and the "V"
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like it was target practice.
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My own camerawoman
was shot in the face.
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CNN camerawoman Margaret Moth
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wounded this morning
by sniper fire.
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Being faced
for the very first time
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as a reporter
with mortal danger
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- was quite something.
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I didn't really
want to go and fight,
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and everybody had to do
something during the war.
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And, uh,
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I used to live across the street
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from the fire station.
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So I went there and asked them,
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you know,
do you need another guy?
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And so they accepted me,
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and then, then I became
a fireman.
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I remember my first fire.
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It's kind of a tall building.
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They're firing,
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you know, exploding bullets
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on the, onto, like,
an eighth floor.
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And we would go
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to the eighth floor
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to-to put out the fire...
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...and then they would start
shooting at the sixth floor
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to cut us off, you know, deliberately.
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And I got lost in all this
smoke and fire and everything,
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you know, and I could have died
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during my first fire.
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In the war, I realized
that I can die any second
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and decided that
never in my life
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I should do anything
but what I like.
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That's where it all started.
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That's where this idea of me
doing something
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creative, artistic started,
you know.
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And so we immediately started
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playing some music,
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and, uh, we were really
punk rock at that time.
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This is a public service
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- announcement...
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with guitar.
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During the war,
we'd mostly play
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in this club called Obala.
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We would go there,
we would play.
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- People would come.
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They would listen,
they would have fun.
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It was kind of like teleporting
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to... to another place,
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to Amsterdam, to Berlin,
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to London, New York,
any other place.
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You know, like none of us
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thought about
what's going on outside.
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You know, it was
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kind of like
really like a capsule.
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And, uh, that's what kept us
sane all the time.
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♪ By a policeman... ♪
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Without electricity,
TV, running water, everything.
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The urge for art in the city
of Sarajevo amplified.
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And that's exactly
how we did Hair.
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♪ With Mars, then peace... ♪
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In the war,
we did it every day.
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- ♪ ...will guide the planets ♪
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♪ And love will steer
the stars ♪
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♪ This is the dawning
of the age of Aquarius ♪
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♪ Age of Aquarius... ♪
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Music and mic was my weapons
in the beginning of the war.
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I was a member of
National Territorial Defense.
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In the Yugoslav Army, I was
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radio operator.
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I was working with gadgets
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for our communication.
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My task was to find frequencies
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that were communicated
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and try to... to destroy
that communication.
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So I was playing Clash,
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Jimi Hendrix and Sex Pistols
as loud as possible, you know,
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on those frequencies
that they were...
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they were talking.
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- ♪ I'm breakin' rocks... ♪
-It's a cat and mouse.
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So they changed frequency,
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then I find them again,
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then I again play Hendrix
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and the Sex Pistols and Clash.
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♪ I fought the law
and the law won... ♪
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That was my task.
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I don't think I would
have survived without this.
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It's the only thing
that kept us going, you know,
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having a disco in the middle
of the fucking war.
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You know, you go and dance.
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♪ The law won... ♪
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The audience was literally
risking their life,
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running from the different
bridges to the theater.
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Our sound guy died before
one of those performances.
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♪ The law won... ♪
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One day my bass player
came to me and said,
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"Oh, our drummer,
he lost his hand
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on the frontline."
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He lost his right fucking hand.
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♪ I fought the law
and the law won... ♪
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Many people felt like us,
you know, not just us.
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So, many people took
instruments.
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They started feeling creative.
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They-they wanted
to say something,
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so we had this wonderful scene.
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That was a surprise
for-for all the occupators.
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And that was something
that gave us a boost
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to-to go further.
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We got here in Sarajevo,
we got the, uh,
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the rock and roll
in their hearts.
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What would you do
if somebody tells you,
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"Okay, you got five minutes."
What would you do?
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You do what you like the most.
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And that's what
we loved the most.
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And you know what,
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I would not say
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that I wasn't ready
to die for it.
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It was a therapy to us.
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It was a real therapy for us.
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For all of us,
not just the musicians,
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but for all the people
who were coming to these clubs.
266
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When I heard
music of U2, politically...
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...they represent something
that I realized in this war,
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in Sarajevo war,
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was a personification
of our resistance.
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With U2, during the war,
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they really had something
to say. You know?
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That was really important
for us.
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All of us
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use music to,
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you know, protect ourselves.
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You know, as a kind of shield
against all the dark forces
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inside our head.
278
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In Sarajevo, there was war.
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They were in the middle of it
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and they were using music
as a shield
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against actual dark forces.
282
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So when I grew up,
punk rock was that for me.
283
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We went to see The Clash
in 1977
284
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on their first tour in Dublin,
and that's how it started.
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♪ In 1977 ♪
286
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♪ I hope I go to heaven ♪
287
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♪ I too long on the dole... ♪
288
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The distance between
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the stage and the audience.
290
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♪ Danger stranger... ♪
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Punk rock was
about tearing down
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that difference,
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with stage invasions of people,
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you know, jumping off the
stage, going into the crowd,
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breaking the distance down
between
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us and them.
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And ending up with the phrase,
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"There is no them,
there is only us."
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Coming from-from Dublin
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in the midst of
the Northern Ireland troubles
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going on up the road
in Belfast.
302
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I mean, there was a lot
of the aspects of punk rock
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that seemed to offer
some kind of different attitude
304
00:16:02,029 --> 00:16:05,665
to the divisions that were
happening in our country.
305
00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:07,767
And as we kind of explored
that music,
306
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it became a huge influence
on us.
307
00:16:11,538 --> 00:16:12,939
The visceral energy of it
308
00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,142
and the direct connection
with politics
309
00:16:15,242 --> 00:16:18,445
and social movements,
which was integral as well.
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This song is not a rebel song.
311
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This song is
"Sunday Bloody Sunday."
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- ♪ ♪
313
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♪ Ooh, oh-oh... ♪
314
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You know
when you hear the music
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and then you think,
"This is my song.
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00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:32,692
Somebody stole my song
from my soul, from my head."
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00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:34,294
That's what happened to me.
318
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♪ I can't believe
the news today ♪
319
00:16:38,065 --> 00:16:41,701
♪ I can't close my eyes
and make it go away... ♪
320
00:16:41,801 --> 00:16:43,603
That was the DNA
of where we came from
321
00:16:43,703 --> 00:16:45,305
and what we identified with.
322
00:16:45,405 --> 00:16:48,741
And we thought we'll take the
power back into our own hands.
323
00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,777
And that was what we did
through our music.
324
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-* Sing no more ♪
325
00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:54,981
- ♪ No more ♪
-* No more ♪
326
00:16:55,082 --> 00:16:57,184
- ♪ No more ♪
- ♪ No more ♪
327
00:16:57,284 --> 00:17:01,588
♪ No more,
wipe your tears away ♪
328
00:17:02,822 --> 00:17:04,757
♪ Wipe your tears away... ♪
329
00:17:04,857 --> 00:17:07,927
Our punk rock
was a weapon to tell them,
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00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,696
fuck you, fuck you.
331
00:17:09,796 --> 00:17:12,065
You can't do anything to us.
332
00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:16,069
Yeah, you can... you can
keep on shooting at us,
333
00:17:16,169 --> 00:17:21,208
killing us and all this, but we
will tell you fuck you anyway.
334
00:17:21,308 --> 00:17:23,042
It's just incredible.
335
00:17:23,143 --> 00:17:26,713
And people's resilience to...
live a normal life.
336
00:17:26,813 --> 00:17:29,949
To say it's impressive
is an understatement, you know.
337
00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:31,818
And so we got embroiled
in that, of course.
338
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:39,159
We went by the name
of the Serious Road Trip.
339
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:41,761
It was a non-governmental
organization,
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00:17:41,861 --> 00:17:43,796
completely neutral,
young people
341
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:45,632
who want to do some good
in the world.
342
00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:48,235
It was full of clowns
and acrobats and jugglers.
343
00:17:48,335 --> 00:17:52,272
And the mandate really
was to drive around the world
344
00:17:52,372 --> 00:17:55,542
and expose the plight
of underprivileged children
345
00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:57,177
in the form of entertainment.
346
00:17:57,277 --> 00:17:59,179
And that's how we got absorbed
into that war,
347
00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,414
because we saw
what was happening there.
348
00:18:01,514 --> 00:18:02,915
And that's where
I came across Bill.
349
00:18:03,015 --> 00:18:05,252
I was trying to find my way
350
00:18:05,352 --> 00:18:07,320
into an aid organization,
351
00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,621
and nobody would hire me.
352
00:18:08,721 --> 00:18:10,056
I didn't have
the right credentials.
353
00:18:10,157 --> 00:18:11,791
I didn't have the right
interview in Geneva,
354
00:18:11,891 --> 00:18:14,561
in New York, and it just
was, "No, no, no, no."
355
00:18:14,661 --> 00:18:16,529
And then I saw this guy,
Graeme Bint.
356
00:18:19,199 --> 00:18:21,033
Okay, who's this guy?
357
00:18:21,134 --> 00:18:23,770
I gravitated to him and just
started talking to him.
358
00:18:23,870 --> 00:18:26,839
He was our age
and our sort of ilk.
359
00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:29,609
He was funny right away.
He's very likable right away.
360
00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:32,011
I vetted him to find out,
you know, what his...
361
00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:33,913
what his agenda was,
if you like.
362
00:18:34,013 --> 00:18:36,082
Making fun of me,
calling me Spam,
363
00:18:36,183 --> 00:18:40,253
which means Spastic
Plastic American Motherfucker.
364
00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:41,421
-Are you ill?
-Sick.
365
00:18:41,521 --> 00:18:43,122
- Are you?
- As a pig.
366
00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:44,591
- Really? Why?
- Yeah.
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00:18:44,691 --> 00:18:46,259
'Cause of you.
368
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,330
He stood out
in that he didn't fit in.
369
00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:51,564
And nor did I, you know.
370
00:18:51,664 --> 00:18:53,099
And sort of,
"Dude, why don't you...?
371
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,701
"You should be, you know...
372
00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:56,068
Have you heard about us?"
373
00:18:57,404 --> 00:18:58,838
"Come on board."
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00:18:58,938 --> 00:19:00,607
♪ All night long,
I dream of the day ♪
375
00:19:00,707 --> 00:19:02,309
You intolerable man.
376
00:19:02,409 --> 00:19:04,311
♪ When it comes around
and it's taken away ♪
377
00:19:04,411 --> 00:19:06,946
♪ Leaves me with the feeling
that I feel the most ♪
378
00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:09,316
♪ Feel it come to life
when I see your ghost ♪
379
00:19:09,416 --> 00:19:11,751
♪ Then I'm done, done,
on to the next one... ♪
380
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They were seen as
a very maverick aid group
381
00:19:13,820 --> 00:19:15,822
who broke all the rules,
382
00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:17,357
who didn't really
listen to the UN,
383
00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:18,825
who didn't really
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00:19:18,925 --> 00:19:21,628
go by all the rules of the war.
385
00:19:21,728 --> 00:19:23,330
And I thought,
"Well, that's perfect."
386
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:27,133
And they said, "Okay,
we're going to go to Sarajevo
387
00:19:27,234 --> 00:19:28,401
tonight at midnight."
388
00:19:32,071 --> 00:19:35,074
This is where the fun begins.
389
00:19:42,181 --> 00:19:44,851
Coming into Sarajevo,
390
00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:46,653
we suddenly realized,
391
00:19:46,753 --> 00:19:49,856
"Shit, I-I'm in a war zone."
392
00:19:49,956 --> 00:19:51,458
You can see on a hill,
393
00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:53,693
you can see... you can see a...
394
00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:56,563
a tank, destroyed tanks.
395
00:19:56,663 --> 00:19:58,197
There's no getting out of this.
396
00:19:58,298 --> 00:19:59,499
This is now life and death.
397
00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:00,733
The first thing you do
is you go through
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00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:02,969
what they call no-man's-land.
399
00:20:03,069 --> 00:20:06,005
And that's a large stretch
of desolation.
400
00:20:07,073 --> 00:20:09,175
Everything's completely flat.
401
00:20:09,276 --> 00:20:11,878
So you go from no-man's-land
to sniper's alley.
402
00:20:11,978 --> 00:20:13,246
Now we can see a lot of place
403
00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:15,248
- where sniper shooting now.
404
00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:17,016
Right here, sniper shooting.
405
00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:18,951
So you can see
the people running.
406
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:20,953
You would be driving
down sniper's alley
407
00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:23,956
and everybody on the right
of the road
408
00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:25,325
is just walking.
409
00:20:26,125 --> 00:20:31,030
Like just casually walking
or bicycling.
410
00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:32,732
You have to
411
00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:36,135
learn how to survive in Sarajevo
412
00:20:36,235 --> 00:20:37,937
and what it means
and how to walk
413
00:20:38,037 --> 00:20:39,972
- and how to navigate the city.
414
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:42,174
There are barricades
everywhere,
415
00:20:42,275 --> 00:20:43,643
made from old
shipping containers,
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00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,345
old buses, old trams.
417
00:20:45,445 --> 00:20:47,380
And what they are
are sniper barricades.
418
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,249
So when people have to cross
streets and things, these
419
00:20:50,350 --> 00:20:53,219
strategically placed
shipping containers
420
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,721
have been piled up
421
00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:57,690
and-and they're just
bullet hole-ridden,
422
00:20:57,790 --> 00:21:00,793
but they stop a physical view
from the snipers.
423
00:21:00,893 --> 00:21:02,995
MAN
Using us as a barricade.
424
00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:04,831
Are they fucking kidding me?
425
00:21:07,066 --> 00:21:10,503
It was just
a crumbling, broken city.
426
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:12,138
- It was shocking.
427
00:21:12,238 --> 00:21:14,374
It was like pictures
from World War II, you know,
428
00:21:14,474 --> 00:21:16,142
just literally burned
429
00:21:16,242 --> 00:21:18,811
and bombed to the ground
kind of thing.
430
00:21:18,911 --> 00:21:20,647
Hey, the Road Trip's in town.
431
00:21:20,747 --> 00:21:22,749
They know it.
432
00:21:26,386 --> 00:21:27,286
We had a local,
433
00:21:27,387 --> 00:21:28,855
um, charity escorting us
434
00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:30,623
to show us the way
where we're going,
435
00:21:30,723 --> 00:21:32,191
which is underneath
the UNIS Towers,
436
00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,461
the two big towers
in the middle of Sarajevo.
437
00:21:34,561 --> 00:21:36,929
And they take us there
and all of a sudden,
438
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:39,766
we are swamped
with-with children.
439
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:44,671
Swamped.
440
00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:46,706
They know there's food
and shit in these trucks.
441
00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:53,513
The kids loved it.
442
00:21:53,613 --> 00:21:55,882
Um, they would just beam.
443
00:21:55,982 --> 00:21:58,385
They'd just go ear to ear
with smiles.
444
00:21:58,485 --> 00:21:59,752
But there were kids then
445
00:21:59,852 --> 00:22:01,488
starting to try
to steal the batteries,
446
00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:03,122
trying to steal the cables,
447
00:22:03,222 --> 00:22:05,825
trying to steal everything
they could get off that truck.
448
00:22:05,925 --> 00:22:08,194
It had a desperation to it,
you know,
449
00:22:08,294 --> 00:22:09,362
and it was understandable
450
00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:10,530
but also made you realize
451
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:11,531
where you were.
452
00:22:15,702 --> 00:22:17,770
Oh, it was awful,
but I knew that it...
453
00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:21,474
if to really solve
the Bosnian problem,
454
00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:24,544
I had to win the anchors
of Western Europe.
455
00:22:24,644 --> 00:22:26,579
But a lot of people in the UN
456
00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:28,515
were predisposed
to give up on them.
457
00:22:28,615 --> 00:22:30,883
You know, say, "Well, they're
just going to fight forever.
458
00:22:30,983 --> 00:22:33,553
It's too much trouble
to try to sort it out."
459
00:22:33,653 --> 00:22:37,023
Don't, don't, don't live
under this dream
460
00:22:37,123 --> 00:22:40,259
that the West is going to
come in and solve this problem.
461
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,161
Don't dream dreams.
462
00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:45,264
Don't dream dreams.
463
00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:49,602
As the Serious Road
Trip, we had this philosophy.
464
00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:51,303
We don't want to just feed
465
00:22:51,404 --> 00:22:53,840
people who are desperate.
466
00:22:53,940 --> 00:22:55,241
We want to make a firebreak.
467
00:22:55,341 --> 00:22:57,143
We want to reach across
a generation
468
00:22:57,243 --> 00:23:01,514
and we want to address
the young children
469
00:23:01,614 --> 00:23:03,282
to give them hope
470
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:05,585
so that when those children
grow up,
471
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:08,788
hopefully, hopefully,
472
00:23:08,888 --> 00:23:11,591
they realize
that they weren't forgotten
473
00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:14,293
and that there was people
from-from the outside world
474
00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,829
who came to help them
and look after them.
475
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:22,635
And maybe,
just-just freaking maybe,
476
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:27,474
that will prevent the legacy
of it happening again.
477
00:23:27,574 --> 00:23:31,043
So that was
our deep down mission.
478
00:23:31,143 --> 00:23:33,546
Hence why we looked like
a bunch of clowns.
479
00:23:33,646 --> 00:23:35,214
Hence why we were...
480
00:23:35,314 --> 00:23:37,383
we didn't just drop our food
in the warehouse,
481
00:23:37,484 --> 00:23:39,486
turn our trucks around
and piss off.
482
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,056
We-we stayed and-and made
contact.
483
00:23:44,156 --> 00:23:45,892
That's it.
484
00:23:45,992 --> 00:23:47,093
It was very difficult
485
00:23:47,193 --> 00:23:47,960
to get food.
486
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:49,361
Very difficult indeed.
487
00:23:49,462 --> 00:23:52,198
It took a while
for the humanitarian airlifts
488
00:23:52,298 --> 00:23:55,167
to really make an actual
material difference.
489
00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:57,504
Yes, the West brought in food,
490
00:23:57,604 --> 00:24:01,608
but as one Sarajevan said to
me, "You know, when the planes
491
00:24:01,708 --> 00:24:04,410
"used to come in with
humanitarian aid, you know,
492
00:24:04,511 --> 00:24:07,046
they're just fattening us up
for the slaughter."
493
00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:09,415
It's really hard to hear that.
494
00:24:09,516 --> 00:24:10,917
That motivated us
495
00:24:11,017 --> 00:24:13,620
to tell the world
what was going on
496
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,021
and make a difference.
497
00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:16,689
Why, in the absence of a policy,
498
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:20,092
have you allowed the U.S.
and the West to be held hostage
499
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:23,429
to those who do have a clear
policy, the Bosnian Serbs?
500
00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:27,099
And do you not think
the constant flip-flops
501
00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:30,737
of your administration
on the issue of Bosnia
502
00:24:30,837 --> 00:24:33,472
sets a very dangerous precedent
503
00:24:33,573 --> 00:24:37,877
and would lead people
to take you less seriously
504
00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:40,146
than you would like
to be taken?
505
00:24:40,246 --> 00:24:43,349
No, but speeches like that
may make them
506
00:24:43,449 --> 00:24:45,985
take me less seriously
than I'd like to be taken.
507
00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:49,321
There have been
no constant flip-flops, madam.
508
00:24:49,421 --> 00:24:51,758
I ran for president
saying that I would do my best
509
00:24:51,858 --> 00:24:53,459
to limit ethnic cleansing
510
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,028
and to see the United States
play a more active role
511
00:24:56,128 --> 00:24:58,998
in resolving the problem
in Bosnia.
512
00:24:59,098 --> 00:25:00,399
The problem is,
513
00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:04,136
most of the killing
was going on in Bosnia
514
00:25:04,236 --> 00:25:06,806
under a false
historical narrative
515
00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:08,575
on the part of the Serbs.
516
00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:09,576
It-it felt like
517
00:25:09,676 --> 00:25:10,743
we were abandoned.
518
00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:12,511
That's, that was the feeling
519
00:25:12,612 --> 00:25:17,016
that-that, um, we all shared.
520
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:23,790
The reason I went
to Sarajevo was because
521
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:24,824
I was very in love
522
00:25:24,924 --> 00:25:25,825
with a girl.
523
00:25:25,925 --> 00:25:27,560
Corrina is her name.
524
00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:29,528
And we had plans.
525
00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:30,963
We had the future.
526
00:25:31,063 --> 00:25:33,165
We had the whole...
527
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,468
...the whole dream planned out.
528
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:38,938
Bought a Volkswagen van,
529
00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:40,607
and we were going to go
to Mexico.
530
00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:43,976
And... and then she took
the van to go to our hometown,
531
00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:46,746
and she had a tragic
car accident.
532
00:25:46,846 --> 00:25:49,381
And six days later, she died.
533
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:54,954
The problem with losing
someone you love
534
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,857
is that you don't lose
the love.
535
00:25:57,957 --> 00:26:00,593
You lose the receiver
of the love.
536
00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:03,763
I think when I went
to Bosnia, Sarajevo,
537
00:26:03,863 --> 00:26:05,665
I found a way to put the love
538
00:26:05,765 --> 00:26:06,999
to use.
539
00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:08,968
At the very beginning,
the reason why
540
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:12,872
we disliked anyone
541
00:26:12,972 --> 00:26:18,845
who showed up in our, um,
in our world was because
542
00:26:18,945 --> 00:26:21,547
there are a lot of war tourists,
543
00:26:21,648 --> 00:26:24,884
as we call them, who'd just
show up with their cameras.
544
00:26:24,984 --> 00:26:26,653
And whenever
there is a dead body
545
00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:29,188
or when something bad happens
546
00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:31,090
while our lives
are being destroyed,
547
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:33,125
they're just taking pictures
548
00:26:33,225 --> 00:26:35,628
and they just leave and you
never get to see them again.
549
00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:40,667
And I guess it felt like
we had these intruders.
550
00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:46,272
Bill was a-a guy who lived
in my neighborhood.
551
00:26:46,372 --> 00:26:50,242
We thought that Bill was just,
you know, one of them.
552
00:26:51,678 --> 00:26:53,379
When the Road Trip
first arrived,
553
00:26:53,479 --> 00:26:55,547
we would go around
our little neighborhood there
554
00:26:55,648 --> 00:26:57,917
and play Ping-Pong and do
all these kind of things.
555
00:26:58,017 --> 00:26:59,786
And these kids
would always, like,
556
00:26:59,886 --> 00:27:02,889
throw rocks at us,
call us all kinds of names.
557
00:27:02,989 --> 00:27:04,456
My friends and myself,
558
00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:06,793
we were little gangsters, obviously.
559
00:27:06,893 --> 00:27:09,428
We were just trying
to do things, you know,
560
00:27:09,528 --> 00:27:11,998
that normal teenagers do
and, um,
561
00:27:12,098 --> 00:27:14,033
doing pranks.
And, um,
562
00:27:14,133 --> 00:27:15,935
that guy kept on showing up.
563
00:27:16,035 --> 00:27:18,170
He became kind of like,
564
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:19,906
you know, a regular.
565
00:27:22,408 --> 00:27:23,676
♪ Here is all my... ♪
566
00:27:23,776 --> 00:27:25,577
♪ Here is my whole heart
to you ♪
567
00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:27,579
♪ I love you,
I love Sarajevo. ♪
568
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,082
We let him into our world,
569
00:27:30,182 --> 00:27:32,118
and you had to deserve it.
570
00:27:32,218 --> 00:27:35,554
From that moment on,
we became like besties
571
00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:36,856
in a way.
572
00:27:42,795 --> 00:27:46,298
So, that is Sarajevo
Symphonic Orchestra.
573
00:27:46,398 --> 00:27:48,267
They play here
in, uh, TV building
574
00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:51,938
because there is no place
to play, uh, somewhere else.
575
00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:56,008
I was journalist working for TV
576
00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:57,977
in Sarajevo, and I was
577
00:27:58,077 --> 00:27:59,912
very happy
578
00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:05,885
because I was part of cultural
flourishment of Sarajevo.
579
00:28:05,985 --> 00:28:07,153
And then I met one guy
580
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:09,856
whose name was Senad.
581
00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:14,126
We were engaged
in the same project.
582
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:16,428
He was really good man.
583
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:20,499
He was very funny
and he was very smart.
584
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:26,205
Every day when we walk
to our TV building,
585
00:28:26,305 --> 00:28:30,910
which was about
one and half kilometer away,
586
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:32,611
the hundreds of tanks around us
587
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,915
and the thousands of snipers,
et cetera, et cetera.
588
00:28:36,015 --> 00:28:40,987
It was so dangerous, and sniper
589
00:28:41,087 --> 00:28:42,822
shoot to us
590
00:28:42,922 --> 00:28:44,390
from our left side
591
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:47,726
- when we go to a job
592
00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:49,361
or from our right side
593
00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:51,898
- when we go back to our home.
594
00:28:51,998 --> 00:28:53,665
Senad, as a gentleman,
595
00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:58,570
he always stay on the side
of the sniper
596
00:28:58,670 --> 00:29:00,306
"to protect me."
597
00:29:00,406 --> 00:29:04,210
So he was really brave
in my eyes.
598
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:08,480
But if you see realistically,
599
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:11,283
both of us could be killed
every morning
600
00:29:11,383 --> 00:29:13,485
and every afternoon.
601
00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:26,398
So there was plenty
of pathways in Sarajevo
602
00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:28,467
that had, like, they went
through people's rooms,
603
00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:29,401
living rooms.
604
00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:31,370
Like a back tunnel system.
605
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:34,273
They had subterranean paths
606
00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:35,875
that would go beneath
the ground
607
00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:37,476
that you could use.
608
00:29:37,576 --> 00:29:40,813
On the surface of Sarajevo,
right,
609
00:29:40,913 --> 00:29:42,281
is all the destruction,
610
00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,083
all the gray
611
00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:45,885
and all the running around.
612
00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:47,286
We had friends,
musician friends,
613
00:29:47,386 --> 00:29:49,755
and they invited us
to an underground disco.
614
00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,229
And there's a door,
and it went down,
615
00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:59,365
down, down, down
a bunch of stairs.
616
00:30:03,836 --> 00:30:05,471
And you get downstairs,
617
00:30:05,571 --> 00:30:08,507
it's like I was going through
the, um, Alice in Wonderland,
618
00:30:08,607 --> 00:30:11,810
- and it was just a roomful
of people
619
00:30:11,911 --> 00:30:14,280
in a disco with a generator
playing music.
620
00:30:16,448 --> 00:30:18,050
It was just full of life.
621
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,419
I want to ask you,
622
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,722
what's happening
with the Indians in America?
623
00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:27,693
I always thinking if snipers
624
00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:30,429
shoot me, it's on me.
625
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:33,399
My fault,
because we know the lines.
626
00:30:33,499 --> 00:30:38,871
We know how to walk through
the cities to keep us safe.
627
00:30:38,971 --> 00:30:40,706
And Bill is always...
628
00:30:40,806 --> 00:30:44,110
We met each other in some place
in the city, but...
629
00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:45,377
with-with his camera.
630
00:30:45,477 --> 00:30:47,079
- Excuse me?
- It's Bill.
631
00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:48,981
Bill. So, Bill,
632
00:30:49,081 --> 00:30:51,417
uh, do you think
that, uh, Sarajevo
633
00:30:51,517 --> 00:30:53,920
is a special kind of safari?
634
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:56,688
-Special kind of city?
- Of safari?
635
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:58,057
- Safari?
- Yes.
636
00:30:58,157 --> 00:30:59,058
We used to see
637
00:30:59,158 --> 00:31:01,527
foreign people every day
638
00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:04,530
with, uh, different ambitions,
639
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:08,867
uh, what they want to do
with themselves first.
640
00:31:08,968 --> 00:31:11,103
So why are you in Sarajevo?
641
00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:13,405
Why? Yes. To help people?
642
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:14,540
Of course.
643
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,942
- Rich people?
- Everybody.
644
00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:17,910
- To help me or somebody else?
- If you need it.
645
00:31:18,010 --> 00:31:19,011
- Yes.
- You need it?
646
00:31:19,111 --> 00:31:23,482
Okay. I need maybe, uh, $2,000.
647
00:31:23,582 --> 00:31:26,485
- $2,000?
- Yes. Yes.
648
00:31:26,585 --> 00:31:28,054
- Why do you need $2,000?
649
00:31:28,154 --> 00:31:29,521
So help me.
650
00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:33,459
Soon you found out
who is good person
651
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:38,497
and who is here just because
he or her lost herself
652
00:31:38,597 --> 00:31:42,868
and, uh, wants to be
in this adrenaline location.
653
00:31:42,969 --> 00:31:44,836
We can all help
each other morally.
654
00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:46,338
Yeah.
655
00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:47,873
You got to figure out
656
00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:49,308
what you're doing in this place
657
00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:51,010
or you need to get out
of this place.
658
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:53,946
And everybody there that was
there had to ask that question.
659
00:31:54,046 --> 00:31:56,348
And that made me ask
that question in real time.
660
00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:59,385
What am I doing here?
661
00:31:59,485 --> 00:32:03,222
That was starting to gnaw
at my brain,
662
00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:06,625
and that... would inspire me
663
00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:09,695
to try to figure out
how to do more for the place.
664
00:32:13,132 --> 00:32:14,566
Senad ran something
665
00:32:14,666 --> 00:32:16,935
called Rat Art,
which is War Art,
666
00:32:17,036 --> 00:32:18,337
at the TV station.
667
00:32:18,437 --> 00:32:20,739
And it was a TV show
668
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,774
of things
that were going on in the war
669
00:32:22,874 --> 00:32:24,443
that had to do with art.
670
00:32:26,212 --> 00:32:28,580
Fashion shows,
671
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,982
comedy,
672
00:32:30,082 --> 00:32:32,418
all kinds of crazy stuff.
673
00:32:33,219 --> 00:32:35,554
I remember sitting around
in Rat Art one day
674
00:32:35,654 --> 00:32:39,825
watching MTV, and there was U2.
675
00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:45,064
Hello, hello, to anyone
in Bosnia watching.
676
00:32:45,164 --> 00:32:46,765
We hear you watch MTV.
677
00:32:46,865 --> 00:32:49,835
This is Bono and U2
in Dublin, Ireland.
678
00:32:49,935 --> 00:32:52,271
We don't know what
to say to you.
679
00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:54,740
Uh, we'd just like
to wish you well,
680
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,677
to wish you some kind
of lasting peace.
681
00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:01,947
We're not deaf, we're not
blind to what's going on,
682
00:33:02,048 --> 00:33:03,882
and we won't be dumb.
683
00:33:06,118 --> 00:33:07,186
Huh.
684
00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:08,954
That's interesting.
685
00:33:09,055 --> 00:33:10,522
They're already tuned in.
686
00:33:10,622 --> 00:33:14,660
♪ One man come
in the name of love ♪
687
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,630
♪ One man come and go... ♪
688
00:33:19,398 --> 00:33:22,701
My first U2 concert
was Amnesty International,
689
00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,436
which is, you know,
Amnesty International.
690
00:33:24,536 --> 00:33:26,172
Like, that's, what you're doing
691
00:33:26,272 --> 00:33:27,573
is you're fighting
for good things.
692
00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:31,977
♪ In the name of love... ♪
693
00:33:32,078 --> 00:33:34,613
I mean, I grew up with them
in the sense that
694
00:33:34,713 --> 00:33:36,882
I thought they were
a force of good.
695
00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:40,252
I thought their lyrics
and their passion
696
00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:42,421
was always trying
to do something good.
697
00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:44,956
So that,
mixed with seeing them on MTV,
698
00:33:45,057 --> 00:33:47,959
I had an idea that
with the musicians
699
00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:51,029
that I had known in Sarajevo
and the power of that disco
700
00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:53,532
and the power of the musicians
and the art,
701
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:57,369
I thought if I could get
this guy, Bono...
702
00:33:58,170 --> 00:34:01,907
...in a room and just talk
to him about these people
703
00:34:02,007 --> 00:34:03,742
and how they were living
in this place,
704
00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:05,211
maybe he would react to it.
705
00:34:05,311 --> 00:34:06,512
Maybe we can have
a conversation.
706
00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:07,946
That's... that's it.
707
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,294
I'm going to go interview Bono.
708
00:34:22,394 --> 00:34:23,829
I'm going to go try
to meet the band
709
00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:26,565
and interview them about
and tell them about Sarajevo.
710
00:34:26,665 --> 00:34:28,667
Hear what I'm seeing.
711
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:47,085
And he said (chuckles),
"Fuck off."
712
00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:53,692
I understand if I ask
as Bill Carter,
713
00:34:53,792 --> 00:34:55,761
this guy who's running
around Bosnia,
714
00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:57,363
U2 is going to say no also.
715
00:34:57,463 --> 00:34:59,231
Like, who am I?
716
00:34:59,331 --> 00:35:00,866
Okay, Senad, how about this?
717
00:35:00,966 --> 00:35:05,337
I write a letter using your
name as the managing editor,
718
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,873
which he was not the managing
editor of the TV station,
719
00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:10,108
and I'm your foreign associate.
720
00:35:10,209 --> 00:35:12,010
We send that because
if it's on the letterhead
721
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:14,180
from the radio and TV station
in Sarajevo,
722
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,314
who's going to ignore that?
723
00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:17,716
"Fuck you, Bill, go outside."
724
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,452
Now I was getting angry
with Senad.
725
00:35:20,552 --> 00:35:22,087
So I went around him.
726
00:35:24,790 --> 00:35:27,759
And in 15 minutes,
there is phone call
727
00:35:27,859 --> 00:35:30,896
from the head manager
of radio and television.
728
00:35:30,996 --> 00:35:33,665
"Hi, my colleague Senad."
My colleague?
729
00:35:33,765 --> 00:35:37,135
-"There is a Mr. Carter."
730
00:35:37,936 --> 00:35:41,407
"Should you please
be so kind to helping him?"
731
00:35:41,507 --> 00:35:43,008
I said, "Okay."
732
00:35:43,108 --> 00:35:46,011
And in a few minutes,
Bill came on the door.
733
00:35:46,111 --> 00:35:47,879
As a winner. "Hi, Senad.
734
00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,981
- I came to make the..."
735
00:36:07,098 --> 00:36:08,200
He left.
736
00:36:15,073 --> 00:36:16,242
Wow, it's happening.
737
00:36:16,342 --> 00:36:19,278
The idea now is officially
in the air.
738
00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:21,046
And then nothing happened.
739
00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:30,556
Watch that box.
It's kind of shaky.
740
00:36:30,656 --> 00:36:34,125
Bill had talked to his
friend who worked for the IRC,
741
00:36:34,226 --> 00:36:36,862
and he told Bill that U2
were playing a concert
742
00:36:36,962 --> 00:36:39,598
across in Italy,
and that's not far away.
743
00:36:40,466 --> 00:36:42,634
The concert was like
in one week,
744
00:36:42,734 --> 00:36:46,305
so my plan became
really fast in action.
745
00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:56,348
Downstairs from the Road Trip
was an office, Equilibre.
746
00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:58,984
It was a French
non-governmental organization.
747
00:36:59,084 --> 00:37:01,253
And Wally ran it,
he's from Senegal.
748
00:37:01,353 --> 00:37:03,322
And I knew they had a radio.
749
00:37:03,422 --> 00:37:04,623
- Where?
- Where?
750
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:06,325
- Upstairs in the office.
- Oh.
- Oh.
751
00:37:06,425 --> 00:37:08,126
- Equilibre office.
- Yeah, yeah.
752
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:11,430
And I said, "Wally...
can I use your radio?"
753
00:37:11,530 --> 00:37:13,198
I told him why,
he's like, "No."
754
00:37:13,299 --> 00:37:15,667
If I can just make
this one call, I'll be on...
755
00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:18,770
I'll be on it
for like a minute.
756
00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:20,672
So he does it, he sets it up,
757
00:37:20,772 --> 00:37:23,342
he cranks it up, you know,
calling Lyon.
758
00:37:23,442 --> 00:37:25,243
It's just all this crap.
759
00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:26,912
And he got 'em.
760
00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:28,447
- We're talking to Ireland.
761
00:37:28,547 --> 00:37:31,383
And it's this beautiful Irish
voice, young woman.
762
00:37:31,483 --> 00:37:34,486
And I said, "Do you have a fax
from Sarajevo?"
763
00:37:34,586 --> 00:37:36,021
Said, "Yes, we do."
764
00:37:36,121 --> 00:37:37,956
And she said, "They sent a fax.
765
00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:39,691
Bono wants to do an interview."
766
00:37:42,894 --> 00:37:45,263
"One nation...
767
00:37:45,364 --> 00:37:47,466
under God"
768
00:37:47,566 --> 00:37:49,635
has turned into "One nation
769
00:37:49,735 --> 00:37:52,538
under the influence
of one drug."
770
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:56,274
♪ Television. ♪
771
00:37:57,843 --> 00:37:59,044
I got a ticket.
772
00:37:59,144 --> 00:38:00,679
I thought I had someone
meeting me.
773
00:38:00,779 --> 00:38:03,782
I didn't know what were
the rules of engagement.
774
00:38:03,882 --> 00:38:05,551
I just thought, I have a fax.
775
00:38:05,651 --> 00:38:07,018
So that was my, like,
776
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,854
walking around card--
I looked like an idiot.
777
00:38:08,954 --> 00:38:10,489
Everywhere I went,
nobody would let me in
778
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,824
and everybody was like,
basically, "F-O.
779
00:38:12,924 --> 00:38:15,093
It's a fricking fax. Go away."
780
00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:18,964
I was like, I-I cannot
have come all this way
781
00:38:19,064 --> 00:38:20,832
and this is going to fail.
782
00:38:22,601 --> 00:38:24,670
So I just was talking
to the Italian guard saying,
783
00:38:24,770 --> 00:38:26,338
"Hey, I know this is weird,
784
00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:29,675
"but I got a fax that says I'm
supposed to do an interview.
785
00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:31,543
"I just don't know
how to get into the stadium
786
00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:32,844
to do the interview."
787
00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:34,279
And the guy says,
"Where are you from?"
788
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,281
I said,
"Well, I'm not from Bosnia,
789
00:38:36,382 --> 00:38:39,618
but I'm representing them
on this, doing this interview."
790
00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:41,286
And he told me,
"Well, they're all...
791
00:38:41,387 --> 00:38:43,254
they're all murderers
and thieves."
792
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:47,393
That did not go over very well
at that moment with me.
793
00:38:47,493 --> 00:38:49,928
And at this point,
I just pushed him.
794
00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:52,398
So we got into
a little kerfuffle.
795
00:38:52,498 --> 00:38:55,300
Whoever came into
the dressing room said,
796
00:38:55,401 --> 00:39:00,839
"There's somebody outside, and
he's completely unreasonable."
797
00:39:00,939 --> 00:39:03,909
Then these guys come out.
798
00:39:04,009 --> 00:39:06,512
Said, "Hey, hey, hey, hey.
What's going on here?"
799
00:39:06,612 --> 00:39:07,779
And I'm like, you know, the guy
800
00:39:07,879 --> 00:39:09,648
at the bottom
of the rugby pile,
801
00:39:09,748 --> 00:39:11,450
like, "I've got a fax.
802
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,386
I've got a fax, and
I'm supposed to be in there."
803
00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:16,221
And the guy's like,
"Yeah, we're waiting for you.
804
00:39:16,321 --> 00:39:17,489
Come on in."
805
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:19,958
-Thanks.
-The man...
806
00:39:20,058 --> 00:39:22,561
The man dressed as a condom.
807
00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:24,696
I know, it...
This is a bit, uh...
808
00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:26,532
Well, it's actually leather,
but it's...
809
00:39:26,632 --> 00:39:29,401
- It is leather.
- It is leather,
but it feels like...
810
00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:31,069
Right. Right.
811
00:39:31,169 --> 00:39:32,738
This is the same outfit you've
been wearing the whole tour?
812
00:39:32,838 --> 00:39:34,172
- Yeah, does it smell like it?
- It's the...
813
00:39:34,272 --> 00:39:36,141
No, but it is
like the tour outfit.
814
00:39:36,241 --> 00:39:37,843
You all wear the same outfit
every-every...?
815
00:39:37,943 --> 00:39:40,512
Well, I got a...
I got a few of them.
816
00:39:40,612 --> 00:39:41,880
- Right, right, right, right.
- Mm.
817
00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:43,415
You know we're from
Sarajevo television.
818
00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:45,884
- Sure.
- And, uh...
819
00:39:45,984 --> 00:39:47,519
it's a big deal for these
people to get this
820
00:39:47,619 --> 00:39:49,020
because it's been 15 months
821
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,590
since they had anything new
come on television.
822
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:54,760
Uh, so, quite exciting for them
to get something like this.
823
00:39:54,860 --> 00:39:57,429
- Well, I'm very happy to talk
- Yeah.
824
00:39:57,529 --> 00:39:58,930
to Sarajevo television.
825
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:00,766
To talk on Sarajevo television.
826
00:40:00,866 --> 00:40:02,100
Yeah, it won't go out
right away
827
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,635
because there's no electricity,
828
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:04,936
but as soon as it comes on
in the city,
829
00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:06,638
we'll-we'll put it out.
830
00:40:06,738 --> 00:40:09,475
Yeah, well, you know, it's,
it's a tiny thing for me to do.
831
00:40:09,575 --> 00:40:11,376
- Yeah.
- And, uh...
832
00:40:11,477 --> 00:40:13,512
I hear rock and roll is, um...
833
00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:15,514
- is popular.
- Big, big.
834
00:40:15,614 --> 00:40:18,116
And I hear that when,
when there's trouble outside
835
00:40:18,216 --> 00:40:20,619
and people have to go indoors
and even in the shelters,
836
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,987
they've got MTV.
837
00:40:22,087 --> 00:40:23,589
They got MTV on satellite.
838
00:40:23,689 --> 00:40:25,390
- People have satellite
and generators.
- Right.
839
00:40:25,491 --> 00:40:28,059
- They've also got disco,
and it's beautiful.
- Wow.
840
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:30,295
It goes until 4:00 in the
morning, everybody rocks,
841
00:40:30,395 --> 00:40:32,030
forgets about outside,
then goes outside
842
00:40:32,130 --> 00:40:33,665
and-and deals with outside.
843
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,902
But basically people are really
844
00:40:37,002 --> 00:40:39,738
trying to do anything
to forget.
845
00:40:39,838 --> 00:40:41,106
That's what the idea was
846
00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:42,508
'cause they're losing
their nerves.
847
00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:44,943
Yeah, I'd say, yeah,
it's really important,
848
00:40:45,043 --> 00:40:47,445
I imagine, to, um,
849
00:40:47,546 --> 00:40:52,083
to, uh, hold on to your...
your sense of yourself
850
00:40:52,183 --> 00:40:54,052
- and your sense of fun.
- Yeah.
851
00:40:54,152 --> 00:40:56,822
You know, and it's,
it must be so hard to,
852
00:40:56,922 --> 00:41:00,158
but, uh,
I think somebody said, uh,
853
00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:04,395
"Courage is grace
under pressure."
854
00:41:04,496 --> 00:41:07,833
And, uh, I always thought
that's a good definition
855
00:41:07,933 --> 00:41:10,836
of, uh, of the people
of Sarajevo.
856
00:41:10,936 --> 00:41:12,904
I could have been Bill
857
00:41:13,004 --> 00:41:13,972
in another life.
858
00:41:14,072 --> 00:41:16,007
I have that irresponsibility.
859
00:41:16,107 --> 00:41:18,544
He's-he's smart, um,
860
00:41:18,644 --> 00:41:21,112
but he has no sense of danger,
it would appear.
861
00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:22,581
It's like, you know,
when you're a kid
862
00:41:22,681 --> 00:41:24,616
and your parents say,
"Now, don't be standing
863
00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:26,552
on the street corner
with them."
864
00:41:26,652 --> 00:41:29,454
It's like they're, of course,
the first person you go to.
865
00:41:29,555 --> 00:41:32,023
But, of course, it's not,
it's not about personalities.
866
00:41:32,123 --> 00:41:35,827
It was that he contained, um,
867
00:41:35,927 --> 00:41:38,864
a story and narrative
868
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:43,368
that I have felt connected to
all my life.
869
00:41:43,468 --> 00:41:45,203
I have a question
in regards to this war,
870
00:41:45,303 --> 00:41:47,138
- and your home country,
- Mm-hmm.
871
00:41:47,238 --> 00:41:49,975
and about the human cycle.
872
00:41:50,075 --> 00:41:53,511
I find it a bit depressing
that we have heroes,
873
00:41:53,612 --> 00:41:56,114
we have wars, we have history,
874
00:41:56,214 --> 00:41:58,884
but we don't seem to learn.
875
00:41:58,984 --> 00:42:00,919
We just keep,
after so many years,
876
00:42:01,019 --> 00:42:04,089
- we have to have this killing.
- Yeah.
877
00:42:04,189 --> 00:42:06,024
Do-do you ever think
about that?
878
00:42:06,124 --> 00:42:08,960
I, well, it's the subject
of a lot of our songs.
879
00:42:09,060 --> 00:42:11,529
See, I mean,
I come from Ireland.
880
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:13,565
Ireland is also divided.
881
00:42:13,665 --> 00:42:16,001
And again, you know,
they say it's religion,
882
00:42:16,101 --> 00:42:18,336
but you know it's not religion.
883
00:42:18,436 --> 00:42:21,372
And the human heart
is very greedy...
884
00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:22,708
Mm.
885
00:42:22,808 --> 00:42:27,679
...and, uh, it seeks
many excuses for that.
886
00:42:27,779 --> 00:42:30,448
And religion
is a convenient one,
887
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:32,884
color is a convenient one.
888
00:42:32,984 --> 00:42:34,152
Uh, what's... you know,
889
00:42:34,252 --> 00:42:35,887
I don't really understand
what's going on.
890
00:42:35,987 --> 00:42:40,125
And the... there must be
an incredible urge,
891
00:42:40,225 --> 00:42:42,293
you know, and I really, uh...
892
00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:45,631
People deserve the right to
defend themselves against evil.
893
00:42:45,731 --> 00:42:48,199
- Right.
- And they must decide
how to do that.
894
00:42:48,299 --> 00:42:51,436
But if there's
any other alternative,
895
00:42:51,536 --> 00:42:54,305
you know, obviously
you've got to seek it.
896
00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:56,074
And I know that's what
you guys have been trying
897
00:42:56,174 --> 00:42:58,243
and you haven't been allowed.
898
00:42:58,343 --> 00:43:02,814
And, uh, I'm-I'm really,
really, you know, uh,
899
00:43:02,914 --> 00:43:04,282
s-sorry to hear about that.
900
00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:06,251
And I understand any reaction.
901
00:43:06,351 --> 00:43:08,854
But I just hope that even
in the middle of that,
902
00:43:08,954 --> 00:43:11,322
even in the...
903
00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:13,324
is not to become
like the animals.
904
00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:15,894
To me, that was my mission,
was to talk about
905
00:43:15,994 --> 00:43:19,464
that part of what
I was experiencing.
906
00:43:20,265 --> 00:43:22,834
Tell him how much of a rock
and roll city the city was,
907
00:43:22,934 --> 00:43:25,737
how much culture was alive,
908
00:43:25,837 --> 00:43:28,907
how much culture was the point,
was resistance.
909
00:43:29,007 --> 00:43:30,308
'Cause I thought that was
910
00:43:30,408 --> 00:43:32,577
what they wanted to express
to the world.
911
00:43:32,678 --> 00:43:33,679
Dignity.
912
00:43:33,779 --> 00:43:35,480
- Self-respect.
- Yeah.
913
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:37,282
These are things that people
can't take away.
914
00:43:37,382 --> 00:43:40,418
And humor, humor is
the evidence of freedom.
915
00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:44,555
Sarajevo is the-the heart
of surreal black humor.
916
00:43:44,656 --> 00:43:46,825
It's unbelievable
what people do there.
917
00:43:46,925 --> 00:43:48,159
- Just keep laughing. Oh.
- Is it?
918
00:43:48,259 --> 00:43:49,995
- See, this is why...
- They laugh.
919
00:43:50,095 --> 00:43:51,496
You're talking about somebody
920
00:43:51,596 --> 00:43:53,564
- who sees their mother die,
- Yeah.
921
00:43:53,665 --> 00:43:55,600
but that it's going to happen
to their friends,
922
00:43:55,701 --> 00:43:57,102
the next day, they're...
923
00:43:57,202 --> 00:43:58,904
- you know, they-they try.
- Yeah.
924
00:43:59,004 --> 00:44:01,406
They have fun, they laugh, they
try to do anything they can.
925
00:44:01,506 --> 00:44:02,708
That's, you know,
926
00:44:02,808 --> 00:44:04,342
that's-that's when you know
people are,
927
00:44:04,442 --> 00:44:06,778
you know, that's-that's
when you're-you're winning
928
00:44:06,878 --> 00:44:08,446
in one respect.
929
00:44:08,546 --> 00:44:11,149
If... if-if they can't
take that away.
930
00:44:11,249 --> 00:44:13,184
- You'd love Sarajevo.
- I think I would.
931
00:44:13,284 --> 00:44:15,120
Yeah, they're good people.
932
00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:17,222
I think I would.
I'd love to get there.
933
00:44:17,322 --> 00:44:19,557
- Yeah. We could arrange that.
- Yeah.
934
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:21,626
It's difficult,
but we can arrange it.
935
00:44:21,727 --> 00:44:24,129
Yeah, I'd like to, uh...
936
00:44:24,229 --> 00:44:27,032
Yeah, you know,
there's a song, uh,
937
00:44:27,132 --> 00:44:30,435
we've written called "One"
on our last record.
938
00:44:30,535 --> 00:44:35,006
I'll do that for...
for-for the people of Sarajevo.
939
00:44:35,774 --> 00:44:37,375
We're 200...
940
00:44:37,475 --> 00:44:42,981
200 miles, 300 kilometers
from Sarajevo.
941
00:44:44,582 --> 00:44:46,151
And, uh...
942
00:44:46,251 --> 00:44:50,021
these tonight are
our next-door neighbors.
943
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:54,993
♪ Is it getting better? ♪
944
00:44:56,361 --> 00:44:59,898
♪ Or do you feel the same? ♪
945
00:44:59,998 --> 00:45:01,833
♪ Oh, oh ♪
946
00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:06,371
♪ Will it make it easier
on you now ♪
947
00:45:06,471 --> 00:45:09,975
♪ You got someone to blame? ♪
948
00:45:10,075 --> 00:45:16,481
♪ You say one love, one life ♪
949
00:45:16,581 --> 00:45:21,686
♪ When it's one need
in the night, I say... ♪
950
00:45:47,745 --> 00:45:48,914
Incredible.
951
00:45:49,014 --> 00:45:50,415
Somebody care of us.
952
00:45:50,515 --> 00:45:52,350
And we publish numerous time
953
00:45:52,450 --> 00:45:57,122
because we, in the newsroom
of War Art,
954
00:45:57,222 --> 00:45:59,657
so satisfied with the material
955
00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:03,594
and published every few days,
again and again and again.
956
00:46:03,694 --> 00:46:05,864
They're all waiting
for somebody to come to...
957
00:46:05,964 --> 00:46:07,432
Yeah. I'd love to play there.
958
00:46:07,532 --> 00:46:09,534
- Hey, that would be
a great idea.
- You know?
959
00:46:09,634 --> 00:46:12,270
You know, maybe if-if you can,
you know,
960
00:46:12,370 --> 00:46:14,973
if there's, you know,
if there's a way, uh,
961
00:46:15,073 --> 00:46:17,142
- that would be a really
nice thing to do
- Right.
962
00:46:17,242 --> 00:46:19,811
at some point in the future.
963
00:46:21,446 --> 00:46:23,048
Bono did this interview,
964
00:46:23,148 --> 00:46:26,717
and he came back, um,
from the interview, said,
965
00:46:26,818 --> 00:46:28,219
"I think we should go
to Sarajevo."
966
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:29,620
And we were talking
kind of about,
967
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:30,989
let's go to the disco,
968
00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:33,091
just you and a guitar,
kind of a punk thing.
969
00:46:33,191 --> 00:46:35,360
I, of course, said yes.
970
00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:38,229
The rest of the band said,
"What are you talking about?"
971
00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:40,598
"Isn't that, like,
there's a war going on?"
972
00:46:40,698 --> 00:46:42,600
He said, "Yeah, no, no, but
I met this guy, Bill Carter.
973
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:44,802
"He says,
he says he knows people
974
00:46:44,903 --> 00:46:47,672
and we can get on a UN plane
or something. We can get in."
975
00:46:47,772 --> 00:46:50,575
We always liked the idea
of doing guerrilla gigs.
976
00:46:50,675 --> 00:46:52,343
It's part of the culture of U2,
977
00:46:52,443 --> 00:46:56,314
of turning up places
with a guitar and a tambourine
978
00:46:56,414 --> 00:46:57,682
and doing something.
979
00:46:57,782 --> 00:47:00,318
What we always look to
is what is the...
980
00:47:00,418 --> 00:47:03,321
what is the core value
of this person?
981
00:47:03,421 --> 00:47:05,090
Th-Their core values?
982
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:07,092
And-and if we agree with them,
983
00:47:07,192 --> 00:47:10,128
we'll put up with
any of the idiosyncrasies.
984
00:47:10,228 --> 00:47:12,363
He's a bit crazy,
but that's fine
985
00:47:12,463 --> 00:47:14,032
because we can work with crazy.
986
00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:15,867
They'd been calling
several times,
987
00:47:15,967 --> 00:47:19,337
and the... the message was
they want to come.
988
00:47:27,045 --> 00:47:28,313
I was already thinking that
989
00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:29,780
them coming to Sarajevo
was going to be
990
00:47:29,881 --> 00:47:32,417
extremely difficult to do.
991
00:47:32,517 --> 00:47:35,286
I don't want to be the guy
that invites
992
00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:38,456
U2 or Bono to Sarajevo,
you know,
993
00:47:38,556 --> 00:47:41,092
on the middle of a tour
and then he, you know, he dies.
994
00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:43,428
Okay, change the channel.
995
00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:44,896
How do we do this differently?
996
00:47:47,298 --> 00:47:48,900
Willkommen to ZOO TV.
997
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,535
Yeah.
998
00:47:50,635 --> 00:47:53,804
Let's see what we got
on TV tonight.
999
00:47:55,773 --> 00:47:57,742
We'd seen the show
the night before,
1000
00:47:57,842 --> 00:47:59,577
so we'd experienced
what they were doing,
1001
00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:01,579
and what they were doing
was beaming the world in
1002
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:03,714
on these massive
90-foot televisions.
1003
00:48:03,814 --> 00:48:06,184
That's kind of ZOO TV.
1004
00:48:06,284 --> 00:48:07,318
You know, this was
1005
00:48:07,418 --> 00:48:10,488
the era of 24-hour cable news.
1006
00:48:10,588 --> 00:48:16,727
News was one of the central
conceits of ZOO TV.
1007
00:48:16,827 --> 00:48:20,331
Let's see what they've
got on for us tonight.
1008
00:48:20,431 --> 00:48:22,500
So it was sort of obvious.
1009
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,936
It's like, well,
if we can't go to Sarajevo,
1010
00:48:25,036 --> 00:48:26,637
let's bring Sarajevo
1011
00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:27,939
to our show.
1012
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,176
Why don't we satellite into
1013
00:48:31,276 --> 00:48:32,910
the U2 concerts?
1014
00:48:33,011 --> 00:48:34,879
Let's do some news broadcasts.
1015
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:38,449
The siege of Sarajevo was
sort of slightly being ignored.
1016
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:40,751
And we thought, well, if we
bring it into the concerts
1017
00:48:40,851 --> 00:48:42,153
through our news feed,
1018
00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:44,289
we might be able to get it
talked about again.
1019
00:48:44,389 --> 00:48:47,858
I went to EBU,
European Broadcasting Union.
1020
00:48:47,959 --> 00:48:49,995
They had a massive room
of satellite equipment.
1021
00:48:50,095 --> 00:48:51,296
I told them the idea,
1022
00:48:51,396 --> 00:48:52,297
and that's it.
1023
00:48:56,634 --> 00:48:59,537
In the city of Sarajevo,
1024
00:48:59,637 --> 00:49:02,107
they've got a dance hall
under the ground
1025
00:49:02,207 --> 00:49:04,509
that's, I guess it's a shelter,
1026
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:07,512
but they play
rock and roll music,
1027
00:49:07,612 --> 00:49:09,847
play dance music,
they play it loud...
1028
00:49:11,316 --> 00:49:14,552
...and, uh,
this is to drown out
1029
00:49:14,652 --> 00:49:16,921
what's going on
over their head.
1030
00:49:17,022 --> 00:49:19,324
The intention was to give,
1031
00:49:19,424 --> 00:49:20,691
it was to give a voice
1032
00:49:20,791 --> 00:49:23,361
to what was going on
in Sarajevo.
1033
00:49:23,461 --> 00:49:25,363
We knew that this is what
he wanted to do,
1034
00:49:25,463 --> 00:49:27,365
was to bring people
to the studio
1035
00:49:27,465 --> 00:49:28,899
and for them
to tell their story.
1036
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,568
And that-that sounded great.
1037
00:49:30,668 --> 00:49:35,440
We got a friend in Sarajevo
who, uh, came to see us play,
1038
00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,409
asked us to go to Sarajevo
and play a gig there,
1039
00:49:38,509 --> 00:49:43,814
then asked us not to because
things were so bad there.
1040
00:49:43,914 --> 00:49:45,416
So we didn't go to play,
1041
00:49:45,516 --> 00:49:49,320
but we sent a satellite dish
from ZOO TV
1042
00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:52,623
into the city of Sarajevo
1043
00:49:52,723 --> 00:49:57,762
and, uh, we got a friend there
who, a guy called Bill Carter,
1044
00:49:57,862 --> 00:50:01,066
rock and roll fan,
1045
00:50:01,166 --> 00:50:03,934
and we're going to try and get
through to him right now.
1046
00:50:04,035 --> 00:50:05,203
You there, Bill?
1047
00:50:05,303 --> 00:50:06,704
Yeah, I hear you, Bono.
1048
00:50:06,804 --> 00:50:11,676
Well, you got, I don't know,
50,000 people here,
1049
00:50:11,776 --> 00:50:13,278
and we just wanted
to say to you
1050
00:50:13,378 --> 00:50:16,747
that it might not be on
the news as much as we'd like,
1051
00:50:16,847 --> 00:50:19,084
it might not be on the TV
as much as we'd like,
1052
00:50:19,184 --> 00:50:20,618
but you are with us tonight.
1053
00:50:20,718 --> 00:50:23,054
I have some friends
with me from Sarajevo.
1054
00:50:23,154 --> 00:50:24,855
This is Darko.
1055
00:50:24,955 --> 00:50:28,559
I want to say hello to all
the peoples in Bologna.
1056
00:50:28,659 --> 00:50:33,964
And thanks to Bill, U2
and all you people,
1057
00:50:34,065 --> 00:50:36,067
we don't feel alone.
1058
00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:40,538
Vlado, who has been separated
from his wife for 17 months
1059
00:50:40,638 --> 00:50:42,873
and she lives in Bologna,
1060
00:50:42,973 --> 00:50:45,476
and there's a good chance
she could be there tonight.
1061
00:50:45,576 --> 00:50:49,347
So he'd like to say
a little message to her.
1062
00:50:49,447 --> 00:50:52,950
I have a small message
for my wife.
1063
00:51:00,391 --> 00:51:05,696
My darling Marita,
I love you and I miss you.
1064
00:51:05,796 --> 00:51:11,236
I... still alive
and I feel good.
1065
00:51:11,336 --> 00:51:13,204
Ciao.
1066
00:51:14,839 --> 00:51:17,608
It was real in a kind of
1067
00:51:17,708 --> 00:51:20,411
spine-chilling way.
1068
00:51:20,511 --> 00:51:23,314
And we gave them a serious dose
1069
00:51:23,414 --> 00:51:28,353
of uneditorialized reality
bang in the middle of our show.
1070
00:51:28,453 --> 00:51:32,723
The audacity
of asking these incredible
1071
00:51:32,823 --> 00:51:35,826
and courageous people
these questions,
1072
00:51:35,926 --> 00:51:38,996
um, "What's going on tonight
in Sarajevo?"
1073
00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:41,366
when you know the answer.
1074
00:51:41,466 --> 00:51:43,434
But their explanation,
of course,
1075
00:51:43,534 --> 00:51:46,371
makes it real for everybody
in the audience.
1076
00:51:46,471 --> 00:51:48,773
And if it makes it real
for everyone in the audience,
1077
00:51:48,873 --> 00:51:51,809
it makes it real for that city
that you're traveling through.
1078
00:51:51,909 --> 00:51:55,079
This is Lejla's apartment.
1079
00:51:55,180 --> 00:51:56,781
Nobody lives now here.
1080
00:51:56,881 --> 00:51:58,516
Bill came to me and said,
1081
00:51:58,616 --> 00:51:59,950
oh, we are doing
1082
00:52:00,050 --> 00:52:01,719
these satellite links,
and they told me
1083
00:52:01,819 --> 00:52:03,421
you had a girl in Stockholm.
1084
00:52:03,521 --> 00:52:07,258
What do you think if you can,
you know, address her?
1085
00:52:11,729 --> 00:52:12,763
I didn't believe
1086
00:52:12,863 --> 00:52:14,565
it was true.
1087
00:52:14,665 --> 00:52:15,666
Well, this is ZOO TV,
1088
00:52:15,766 --> 00:52:16,967
and we're going to try
1089
00:52:17,067 --> 00:52:19,737
and ask the television
some questions
1090
00:52:19,837 --> 00:52:24,942
and try and put our fantasy
here next to their reality.
1091
00:52:26,477 --> 00:52:28,646
You with us, Bill?
1092
00:52:29,447 --> 00:52:31,549
Hello, Bono.
1093
00:52:31,649 --> 00:52:33,418
Hello, Stockholm.
1094
00:52:33,518 --> 00:52:34,685
Tonight
1095
00:52:34,785 --> 00:52:37,087
I have a friend, Enes,
1096
00:52:37,188 --> 00:52:40,391
who is from the fire department
here in Sarajevo,
1097
00:52:40,491 --> 00:52:43,828
which you can imagine
is a very difficult job here,
1098
00:52:43,928 --> 00:52:47,632
uh, and he'd like to say some
things to Stockholm tonight.
1099
00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:50,268
Okay.
1100
00:52:50,368 --> 00:52:51,536
Hello, Stockholm.
1101
00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:58,142
There's a... there's a girl
there in that concert.
1102
00:52:58,243 --> 00:53:03,881
She's a girl from Sarajevo,
and, um, she's my fiancée and
1103
00:53:03,981 --> 00:53:06,817
I want to say a few words
to her, so...
1104
00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:09,153
Lejla, I'm, uh, I'm still alive,
1105
00:53:09,254 --> 00:53:12,557
as you can see,
and, um, our families, too,
1106
00:53:12,657 --> 00:53:15,560
and, uh, everything's fine.
1107
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:19,063
I just want to say to you
that I love you so much.
1108
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,369
The whole
crowd in the stadium...
1109
00:53:24,469 --> 00:53:25,770
You know?
1110
00:53:33,043 --> 00:53:35,646
It was, it was...
it was surreal.
1111
00:53:35,746 --> 00:53:38,048
This is for you, Lejla.
1112
00:53:39,784 --> 00:53:42,052
I hope you get
your man home soon.
1113
00:53:42,152 --> 00:53:44,154
They're dedicating the song
to Lejla.
1114
00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:47,425
And then when it finished,
1115
00:53:47,525 --> 00:53:51,228
they started playing this
fucking song that I wanted to,
1116
00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:52,397
to ask them to play.
1117
00:53:52,497 --> 00:53:54,732
It was the song called "Bad."
1118
00:53:54,832 --> 00:53:58,469
Uh, it was...
it was my favorite U2 song.
1119
00:53:58,569 --> 00:54:06,344
♪ If you tear yourself
in two again... ♪
1120
00:54:06,444 --> 00:54:11,716
To me, to me personally,
it was, it was...
1121
00:54:11,816 --> 00:54:14,018
kind of like a...
1122
00:54:16,587 --> 00:54:18,689
...like a Hollywood movie,
you know.
1123
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:23,494
Me being in the war,
besieged, you know,
1124
00:54:23,594 --> 00:54:27,832
saying... I love you
to my girlfriend
1125
00:54:27,932 --> 00:54:29,734
and having this big band
1126
00:54:29,834 --> 00:54:35,239
and... it was even...
1127
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:36,807
more unbelievable.
1128
00:54:36,907 --> 00:54:40,177
It really gave me goose bumps.
1129
00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,447
What's happening today
in Sarajevo?
1130
00:54:42,547 --> 00:54:44,982
I got a friend of mine
here, Ciba,
1131
00:54:45,082 --> 00:54:46,684
who's a painter,
1132
00:54:46,784 --> 00:54:50,054
and is using his paint
to get by.
1133
00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:55,393
You know,
our town is a big prison
1134
00:54:55,493 --> 00:54:59,430
for the last 17 months, and...
1135
00:54:59,530 --> 00:55:02,700
I only want to say thanks, U2,
1136
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,404
for the big window you give us.
1137
00:55:08,673 --> 00:55:11,842
I hope to see you one day
in Sarajevo.
1138
00:55:13,077 --> 00:55:15,079
You will.
1139
00:55:18,949 --> 00:55:19,817
So what's been happening?
1140
00:55:19,917 --> 00:55:22,219
How's everybody's morale?
1141
00:55:23,921 --> 00:55:25,322
The morale is okay.
1142
00:55:25,423 --> 00:55:28,793
It's holding up as best
as it can.
1143
00:55:28,893 --> 00:55:31,061
I know that you are having now
a very nice time
1144
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:34,832
listening famous music of U2.
1145
00:55:34,932 --> 00:55:37,602
We, in Sarajevo and Bosnia,
1146
00:55:37,702 --> 00:55:40,638
used to listen
that kind of music.
1147
00:55:40,738 --> 00:55:43,474
Unfortunately,
now we are listening
1148
00:55:43,574 --> 00:55:46,143
just sounds of grenades.
1149
00:55:46,243 --> 00:55:47,645
Can you hear me?
1150
00:55:49,580 --> 00:55:51,549
We are living
on the front line,
1151
00:55:51,649 --> 00:55:53,618
and Serbian aggressor
can see our door.
1152
00:55:54,419 --> 00:55:57,788
Two years ago, we were living
like all teenagers,
1153
00:55:57,888 --> 00:56:00,891
listening to music, going out.
1154
00:56:00,991 --> 00:56:04,762
We had schools, friends,
plans for a future.
1155
00:56:04,862 --> 00:56:09,066
Now we have shells,
we have screams of children.
1156
00:56:09,166 --> 00:56:11,301
Our schools are burned down.
1157
00:56:11,402 --> 00:56:14,739
We in Sarajevo
and Bosnian people,
1158
00:56:14,839 --> 00:56:17,107
we are not afraid of dying.
1159
00:56:17,207 --> 00:56:20,645
We are afraid
what will happen after this.
1160
00:56:20,745 --> 00:56:22,880
How to live
with this experience.
1161
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:25,149
We don't know
what to say to you.
1162
00:56:25,249 --> 00:56:26,751
We feel impotent.
1163
00:56:26,851 --> 00:56:28,853
We feel numb.
1164
00:56:28,953 --> 00:56:31,489
All we say to you
is we're ashamed
1165
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:34,124
to be Europeans tonight.
1166
00:56:36,126 --> 00:56:37,462
The world has decided that
1167
00:56:37,562 --> 00:56:41,632
the massacre in Bosnia
can continue.
1168
00:56:41,732 --> 00:56:44,702
What do you really do for us?
1169
00:56:44,802 --> 00:56:46,737
Excuse me, I think nothing.
1170
00:56:47,538 --> 00:56:51,008
Do you, do you really know
what's happened here?
1171
00:56:51,108 --> 00:56:52,677
I think you don't know
1172
00:56:52,777 --> 00:56:55,513
because you don't do anything
for us.
1173
00:56:55,613 --> 00:56:57,882
Nobody knows
what the fuck is going on.
1174
00:56:57,982 --> 00:57:00,785
All we know is
we've left you there.
1175
00:57:00,885 --> 00:57:02,920
We have no answers for you,
1176
00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:05,122
and we feel rather
ridiculous tonight
1177
00:57:05,222 --> 00:57:10,027
being in a rock and roll band
in this fantasy of ZOO TV
1178
00:57:10,127 --> 00:57:13,831
with your reality
there in Sarajevo.
1179
00:57:24,308 --> 00:57:27,144
Well, that's just the heaviest
thing ever, you know.
1180
00:57:27,244 --> 00:57:31,315
Uh, it's, it was,
it really was like,
1181
00:57:31,415 --> 00:57:33,884
it was like a smack
in the face, you know,
1182
00:57:33,984 --> 00:57:35,586
and well-deserved
1183
00:57:35,686 --> 00:57:37,021
smack in the face.
1184
00:57:37,121 --> 00:57:38,489
NED
Hello?
1185
00:57:38,589 --> 00:57:39,824
Hi, Ned. How are you doing?
1186
00:57:41,692 --> 00:57:43,594
Yes. Okay.
1187
00:57:43,694 --> 00:57:45,696
And I got the call that night
while we were down there
1188
00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:47,264
ready to get,
we were ready to do it,
1189
00:57:47,364 --> 00:57:50,367
and he said, "Hey, um,
we're going to pull the plug."
1190
00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:52,402
And I was upset,
1191
00:57:52,503 --> 00:57:54,404
not at Ned and not at the band,
1192
00:57:54,505 --> 00:57:57,575
but just I was in
this mindset like, more.
1193
00:57:57,675 --> 00:57:59,243
We got to get 'em heard.
1194
00:57:59,343 --> 00:58:01,411
Maybe we can turn the channel,
maybe we can turn the wave,
1195
00:58:01,512 --> 00:58:02,513
maybe we can get people...
1196
00:58:02,613 --> 00:58:04,381
I was on a mission.
1197
00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:10,220
The feeling that, you know,
it-it wasn't... wasn't
1198
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,891
necessarily producing
a groundswell
1199
00:58:13,991 --> 00:58:17,928
of-of activism, uh,
in the audiences.
1200
00:58:18,028 --> 00:58:20,898
People sort of understood
what it would be.
1201
00:58:20,998 --> 00:58:22,967
It was predictable.
1202
00:58:23,067 --> 00:58:24,468
PAUL McGUINNESS:
We knew what we were doing
1203
00:58:24,569 --> 00:58:27,271
was-was, um, propaganda, um,
1204
00:58:27,371 --> 00:58:30,741
but, if you like,
it was good propaganda.
1205
00:58:31,542 --> 00:58:37,514
And it started to look
a little bit like reality TV,
1206
00:58:37,615 --> 00:58:43,320
using people's, um, pain
and anguish as entertainment.
1207
00:58:51,696 --> 00:58:56,701
Today's 21st month
of Sarajevo being, uh,
1208
00:58:56,801 --> 00:58:59,069
besieged, being trapped
1209
00:58:59,169 --> 00:59:02,740
and... I'm tired of it.
1210
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,609
Can see it in my eyes.
1211
00:59:04,709 --> 00:59:06,476
I'm tired of it and, uh,
1212
00:59:06,577 --> 00:59:08,512
tired of living in this,
you know,
1213
00:59:08,613 --> 00:59:11,816
just concentration camp,
nothing else.
1214
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:14,518
Here.
1215
00:59:15,686 --> 00:59:18,255
This was bathroom.
1216
00:59:19,590 --> 00:59:24,028
My friends, they came
and they with water.
1217
00:59:24,128 --> 00:59:26,797
They tried to, no fire,
1218
00:59:26,897 --> 00:59:28,933
but everything is burnt,
you know.
1219
00:59:29,033 --> 00:59:31,736
You're a hostage for four years.
1220
00:59:31,836 --> 00:59:32,970
Instead of waking up
1221
00:59:33,070 --> 00:59:34,204
to go to school,
1222
00:59:34,304 --> 00:59:36,306
you don't, you don't get
to go to school.
1223
00:59:37,107 --> 00:59:40,444
You wake up to the sounds
of grenades
1224
00:59:40,544 --> 00:59:45,382
and you-you fall asleep
to-to those same things.
1225
00:59:45,482 --> 00:59:48,318
You never know if you're
going to be woken up
1226
00:59:48,418 --> 00:59:50,921
by your parents at 3:00 a.m.
because you have
1227
00:59:51,021 --> 00:59:54,992
to run to the basement
to save your life.
1228
00:59:56,493 --> 00:59:58,162
You could, you could
think that maybe,
1229
00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,231
you know, we get used to it.
1230
01:00:05,836 --> 01:00:08,238
We just act normally.
1231
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:10,775
The war just went on
and went on.
1232
01:00:10,875 --> 01:00:11,942
We were,
1233
01:00:12,042 --> 01:00:13,043
we were hoping
it would stop,
1234
01:00:13,143 --> 01:00:14,578
it would stop, but it didn't.
1235
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:16,013
It never stopped.
1236
01:00:17,481 --> 01:00:20,250
Too long under the siege.
1237
01:00:21,151 --> 01:00:23,320
People are going crazy.
1238
01:00:24,221 --> 01:00:25,656
How do human beings,
1239
01:00:25,756 --> 01:00:28,425
the town citizens of Sarajevo,
1240
01:00:28,525 --> 01:00:32,997
accept that kind of life
as normal?
1241
01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:36,333
It's not normal
dying every day.
1242
01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:41,505
Thousands died during the war.
1243
01:00:41,605 --> 01:00:44,008
30% the kids.
1244
01:00:44,108 --> 01:00:47,177
And your needs as a human being
1245
01:00:47,277 --> 01:00:51,148
to-to live your life normally.
1246
01:00:51,248 --> 01:00:53,150
It's like human needs...
1247
01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:55,652
to stay normal.
1248
01:00:55,753 --> 01:00:58,588
"
by Ornella Vanoni playing)
1249
01:01:46,003 --> 01:01:48,238
- ♪ ♪
1250
01:01:55,645 --> 01:01:58,082
"
continues playing)
1251
01:02:40,991 --> 01:02:44,094
- It was one of the best parties
in the war.
1252
01:02:47,731 --> 01:02:50,067
"
continues playing)
1253
01:02:53,503 --> 01:02:55,439
That's important.
1254
01:02:55,539 --> 01:02:59,343
And that's one of the reasons
we decided
1255
01:02:59,443 --> 01:03:04,248
it was some kind
of resistance...
1256
01:03:04,348 --> 01:03:08,052
of situation we had been.
1257
01:03:11,155 --> 01:03:14,391
Death is always
omnipresent all the time,
1258
01:03:14,491 --> 01:03:18,195
but we didn't allow
that feeling to interfere
1259
01:03:18,295 --> 01:03:21,866
the joy of life
like this wedding was.
1260
01:03:21,966 --> 01:03:25,135
You see, in eyes of
those people, you see life,
1261
01:03:25,235 --> 01:03:26,703
you see joy.
1262
01:03:26,803 --> 01:03:28,906
"
continues playing)
1263
01:03:36,113 --> 01:03:39,749
For us in Sarajevo, that was
1264
01:03:39,850 --> 01:03:41,251
boosts of morality,
1265
01:03:41,351 --> 01:03:46,523
boost of faith,
boost of winning against death.
1266
01:03:47,992 --> 01:03:50,494
People from my country,
from this town,
1267
01:03:50,594 --> 01:03:53,998
they all have their way
of fighting,
1268
01:03:54,098 --> 01:03:56,700
not just men with guns,
1269
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,469
but also women
with their beauty.
1270
01:04:00,537 --> 01:04:03,874
Th-That's our mentality,
you know.
1271
01:04:07,611 --> 01:04:08,745
We decided
1272
01:04:08,845 --> 01:04:10,647
to do some work with Eno
1273
01:04:10,747 --> 01:04:15,119
on a kind of experimental
record called Passengers.
1274
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,956
And in the course of making
that record,
1275
01:04:19,056 --> 01:04:21,291
we wrote the song
"Miss Sarajevo"...
1276
01:04:21,391 --> 01:04:22,859
♪ For keeping your distance ♪
1277
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,828
♪ A time to turn
your eyes away? ♪
1278
01:04:24,929 --> 01:04:26,396
...inspired by
1279
01:04:26,496 --> 01:04:28,365
the Miss Sarajevo
beauty pageant.
1280
01:04:29,799 --> 01:04:31,601
Every single person is surprised
1281
01:04:31,701 --> 01:04:33,603
how women here take care
of themselves,
1282
01:04:33,703 --> 01:04:37,441
are trying to look nice,
to be beautiful,
1283
01:04:37,541 --> 01:04:40,110
to be dressed nice.
1284
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:42,046
Miss Sarajevo beauty contest,
1285
01:04:42,146 --> 01:04:46,050
it was one of the ways
to show that to the world
1286
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:48,152
and to the enemies and to us.
1287
01:04:48,953 --> 01:04:50,720
It was not just
a beauty pageant.
1288
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:52,222
This was pure
1289
01:04:52,322 --> 01:04:53,257
Andy Warhol, you know.
1290
01:04:53,357 --> 01:04:54,691
It was like Marcel Duchamp.
1291
01:04:54,791 --> 01:04:56,860
It was like
this brilliant thought,
1292
01:04:56,961 --> 01:04:59,829
we'll do a beauty pageant
in a bombed-out car park
1293
01:04:59,930 --> 01:05:00,897
in Sarajevo
1294
01:05:00,998 --> 01:05:02,499
and these beautiful girls
1295
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:05,502
with a "Don't kill us" banner.
1296
01:05:05,602 --> 01:05:09,006
It was far more important
than just entertainment.
1297
01:05:11,675 --> 01:05:15,379
♪ To take her crown... ♪
1298
01:05:22,819 --> 01:05:25,389
If defiance
1299
01:05:25,489 --> 01:05:26,890
is the essence of romance,
1300
01:05:26,991 --> 01:05:29,026
there is nothing more defiant
1301
01:05:29,126 --> 01:05:31,661
than putting on
a beauty pageant
1302
01:05:31,761 --> 01:05:37,501
in the middle of a war
as a giant "Fuck off."
1303
01:05:38,902 --> 01:05:40,337
Generation after generation,
1304
01:05:40,437 --> 01:05:42,039
when we meet
these-these bullies,
1305
01:05:42,139 --> 01:05:46,743
these thugs, these terrorists
pretending to be politicians,
1306
01:05:46,843 --> 01:05:50,947
that the artists are also
attacked and threatened:
1307
01:05:51,048 --> 01:05:55,019
poets, writers, filmmakers, musicians.
1308
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:56,553
Because they are a threat.
1309
01:05:56,653 --> 01:05:59,923
Because it-it can
inspire people
1310
01:06:00,024 --> 01:06:03,994
to-to find the strength
and courage to resist.
1311
01:06:05,629 --> 01:06:08,365
There is no one
who can believe, uh,
1312
01:06:08,465 --> 01:06:13,537
what, uh, is mentioned as a,
as a organized genocide,
1313
01:06:13,637 --> 01:06:15,805
even organized from Belgrade
1314
01:06:15,905 --> 01:06:18,408
and even organized by me.
1315
01:06:18,508 --> 01:06:21,045
It is really out
of all consideration.
1316
01:06:21,145 --> 01:06:23,647
I believed truth was truth,
lies were lies,
1317
01:06:23,747 --> 01:06:25,215
and if you just reported
the truth,
1318
01:06:25,315 --> 01:06:26,583
then people would get it.
1319
01:06:26,683 --> 01:06:29,086
But in fact,
what I learned in Bosnia
1320
01:06:29,186 --> 01:06:32,722
was the origin, for me anyway,
of fake news.
1321
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:35,859
The Serbs had
a very, very profound
1322
01:06:35,959 --> 01:06:38,428
and professional
propaganda machine,
1323
01:06:38,528 --> 01:06:40,230
and the stories they told
1324
01:06:40,330 --> 01:06:41,665
were very effective.
1325
01:06:41,765 --> 01:06:43,800
You know, your own people
and your soldiers,
1326
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:46,036
to them you're a great man,
you're a hero.
1327
01:06:46,136 --> 01:06:48,905
To your enemies,
you're somebody to be feared
1328
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:50,374
and somebody to be hated.
1329
01:06:50,474 --> 01:06:52,709
How do you feel about that?
1330
01:06:55,412 --> 01:06:56,880
What we saw was
1331
01:06:56,980 --> 01:06:59,549
bending the truth,
playing the victim
1332
01:06:59,649 --> 01:07:01,518
while they were killing,
1333
01:07:01,618 --> 01:07:04,488
slaughtering,
murdering in Bosnia.
1334
01:07:04,588 --> 01:07:06,390
They said that fundamentalist
of Sarajevo
1335
01:07:06,490 --> 01:07:09,959
feeds Serbian children
to the lions in the zoo.
1336
01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:13,463
I heard this story repeated
many times in one day.
1337
01:07:13,563 --> 01:07:16,600
It is official
government propaganda.
1338
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:19,269
If there's one thing I've
learned, it is the cheapest,
1339
01:07:19,369 --> 01:07:22,005
surest way to political power
1340
01:07:22,106 --> 01:07:23,640
is to demonize the other
1341
01:07:23,740 --> 01:07:27,077
by promising that somehow
you'll get rid of them
1342
01:07:27,177 --> 01:07:30,380
to empower these people.
1343
01:07:34,884 --> 01:07:37,854
It was on the front page
of every newspaper for years.
1344
01:07:37,954 --> 01:07:41,091
It was on what we call
the A block of all our
1345
01:07:41,191 --> 01:07:42,826
news broadcasts for years.
1346
01:07:42,926 --> 01:07:44,828
It's not like we didn't
pay attention to it,
1347
01:07:44,928 --> 01:07:49,466
but it took more than
three years of this slaughter
1348
01:07:49,566 --> 01:07:51,901
for the United States
and the rest of the world
1349
01:07:52,001 --> 01:07:52,902
to actually get involved
1350
01:07:53,002 --> 01:07:54,704
to stop it.
1351
01:08:00,977 --> 01:08:03,713
There was
a massacre in Screbrenica
1352
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:06,983
that even these world leaders
could not turn away.
1353
01:08:07,083 --> 01:08:09,653
July 1995,
1354
01:08:09,753 --> 01:08:13,157
the Bosnian Serbs
exterminated Muslim boys
1355
01:08:13,257 --> 01:08:15,225
as young as 14
1356
01:08:15,325 --> 01:08:18,528
and men as old as 77.
1357
01:08:18,628 --> 01:08:20,130
Uh, Yugoslavia.
1358
01:08:20,230 --> 01:08:21,931
We were, uh, we are blamed
1359
01:08:22,031 --> 01:08:24,768
that we want to create
Greater Serbia.
1360
01:08:24,868 --> 01:08:27,771
That was not in any time
our policy.
1361
01:08:38,182 --> 01:08:42,319
8,000 Muslim men
and boys were separated,
1362
01:08:42,419 --> 01:08:45,255
they-they were executed
1363
01:08:45,355 --> 01:08:47,023
in Screbrenica.
1364
01:08:48,225 --> 01:08:51,228
It was the worst massacre
in Europe since World War II.
1365
01:08:51,328 --> 01:08:54,831
And even the West,
1366
01:08:54,931 --> 01:08:56,300
which did not want
to intervene,
1367
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:57,867
was then shamed
into intervening.
1368
01:08:57,967 --> 01:09:00,670
When they overran Screbrenica,
1369
01:09:00,770 --> 01:09:02,639
and you could actually see
UN soldiers
1370
01:09:02,739 --> 01:09:06,176
sitting there with
their blue helmets and hats
1371
01:09:06,276 --> 01:09:09,913
on top of tanks,
watching the Serb conquerors
1372
01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:12,716
take the women and children
and send them in one direction
1373
01:09:12,816 --> 01:09:14,351
and take the able-bodied men
1374
01:09:14,451 --> 01:09:16,353
and send them
in the other direction...
1375
01:09:16,453 --> 01:09:18,422
for extermination.
1376
01:09:18,522 --> 01:09:22,826
What is our interest in Bosnia?
1377
01:09:22,926 --> 01:09:27,497
Well, if this does not
represent our interests
1378
01:09:27,597 --> 01:09:29,499
and our values,
1379
01:09:29,599 --> 01:09:33,603
then nothing that has happened
since the end of World War II
1380
01:09:33,703 --> 01:09:36,340
represents our values.
1381
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:38,208
A month or so later,
1382
01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:40,510
there was another massacre
in the marketplace in Sarajevo.
1383
01:09:40,610 --> 01:09:42,212
All right, time
now for this morning's news.
1384
01:09:42,312 --> 01:09:43,913
Officials in Sarajevo
this morning
1385
01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:46,115
report one of
the bloodiest attacks
1386
01:09:46,216 --> 01:09:47,584
of the Yugoslav civil war.
1387
01:09:47,684 --> 01:09:49,619
They say a Serbian mortar shell
1388
01:09:49,719 --> 01:09:51,655
landed directly
on the crowded marketplace
1389
01:09:51,755 --> 01:09:53,189
in the Bosnian capital
1390
01:09:53,290 --> 01:09:55,892
where people were lined up
to buy bread.
1391
01:09:55,992 --> 01:09:58,228
August 28, 1995.
1392
01:09:58,328 --> 01:09:59,729
I went into the marketplace.
1393
01:09:59,829 --> 01:10:02,966
People were running out,
screaming.
1394
01:10:05,702 --> 01:10:07,604
You-you have no words
to explain
1395
01:10:07,704 --> 01:10:10,440
to people what really happened
1396
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:12,208
because there is no word
to explain.
1397
01:10:13,009 --> 01:10:15,379
What has to happen
before the outside world
1398
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:16,813
decides enough is enough
1399
01:10:16,913 --> 01:10:19,716
and takes action
to end the bloodshed?
1400
01:10:28,458 --> 01:10:32,896
I have just completed
a meeting with advisors
1401
01:10:32,996 --> 01:10:36,165
discussing the... the terrible
and outrageous incident
1402
01:10:36,266 --> 01:10:38,902
in Sarajevo yesterday.
1403
01:10:39,002 --> 01:10:40,837
Within 24 hours,
the UN commander,
1404
01:10:40,937 --> 01:10:47,010
what we call "flipped the key"
and enabled NATO to come in.
1405
01:11:01,725 --> 01:11:04,761
We basically...
1406
01:11:04,861 --> 01:11:08,798
got the authority to bomb them
for four days.
1407
01:11:21,978 --> 01:11:24,280
It was the beginning
1408
01:11:24,381 --> 01:11:26,550
of a new understanding
1409
01:11:26,650 --> 01:11:29,686
about what was
and was not acceptable...
1410
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,523
...in the Balkans
and in Europe.
1411
01:11:39,829 --> 01:11:41,565
An absolute...
1412
01:11:42,899 --> 01:11:46,436
...unbelievable lay-down
of bombs
1413
01:11:46,536 --> 01:11:48,438
turned the sky orange.
1414
01:11:48,538 --> 01:11:50,607
Alma ran up to the house
to watch
1415
01:11:50,707 --> 01:11:51,775
this thing with me.
1416
01:11:51,875 --> 01:11:54,511
So we sat there together.
1417
01:11:54,611 --> 01:11:55,745
I'm sure we were crying.
1418
01:11:55,845 --> 01:11:57,347
Last night, I heard...
1419
01:11:57,447 --> 01:12:00,817
I woke up, you know,
when I heard the sounds.
1420
01:12:00,917 --> 01:12:03,252
But I knew
it's not from Chetniks.
1421
01:12:03,353 --> 01:12:07,123
It's from our guys on sky.
1422
01:12:07,223 --> 01:12:08,558
Do you think the war is over?
1423
01:12:08,658 --> 01:12:10,894
Yeah, I hope. I think.
1424
01:12:10,994 --> 01:12:13,397
Slobodan Milosevic
had been falsely
1425
01:12:13,497 --> 01:12:14,998
holding the world hostage,
1426
01:12:15,098 --> 01:12:17,601
threatening
even greater disaster,
1427
01:12:17,701 --> 01:12:21,270
threatening that the whole
world would enter a world war.
1428
01:12:21,371 --> 01:12:25,008
They folded in a second
because that's what bullies do.
1429
01:12:25,108 --> 01:12:29,446
We became aware, and I have
become aware just over years,
1430
01:12:29,546 --> 01:12:34,518
that peace is just one of
these kind of annoying words,
1431
01:12:34,618 --> 01:12:38,455
somewhat insipid,
somewhat vague.
1432
01:12:38,555 --> 01:12:40,790
But actual peace, um,
1433
01:12:40,890 --> 01:12:43,993
is something
that has to be brokered,
1434
01:12:44,093 --> 01:12:48,097
negotiated by men and women
1435
01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:50,967
under fluorescent lights,
you know,
1436
01:12:51,067 --> 01:12:54,237
eating stale cheese sandwiches.
1437
01:12:54,337 --> 01:12:56,806
And you start to realize
1438
01:12:56,906 --> 01:12:59,843
th-that peace
1439
01:12:59,943 --> 01:13:01,878
is not at all romantic.
1440
01:13:01,978 --> 01:13:04,514
It's essential.
1441
01:13:04,614 --> 01:13:06,816
But the Dayton Peace Accord,
1442
01:13:06,916 --> 01:13:11,287
uh, was one of the most brutal,
1443
01:13:11,387 --> 01:13:13,490
uh, of peace accords.
1444
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:16,526
And that... that lasts,
1445
01:13:16,626 --> 01:13:20,129
that's-that's the sting
here in the tale.
1446
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:26,369
In Dayton, we had to compromise
1447
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:27,871
what some people defined
1448
01:13:27,971 --> 01:13:30,907
as a bad peace or a good war.
1449
01:13:31,007 --> 01:13:33,443
First of all, there's no
such thing as a good war,
1450
01:13:33,543 --> 01:13:37,714
so we had to accept the peace
that was offered as it is
1451
01:13:37,814 --> 01:13:41,618
or agree to continue a conflict
1452
01:13:41,718 --> 01:13:43,219
that was exhausting--
1453
01:13:43,319 --> 01:13:46,022
not just killing
but exhausting-- citizens
1454
01:13:46,122 --> 01:13:47,691
of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
1455
01:13:47,791 --> 01:13:51,895
And now the issue wasn't
about how to end the fighting
1456
01:13:51,995 --> 01:13:55,632
but really how to bring about
real peace to Bosnia,
1457
01:13:55,732 --> 01:14:00,003
because stopping the killing is
nothing more than a cease-fire.
1458
01:14:00,103 --> 01:14:01,771
Today, Mr. Presidents,
1459
01:14:01,871 --> 01:14:05,308
you have bound yourself
to peace,
1460
01:14:05,408 --> 01:14:09,312
but tomorrow you must turn
the pages of this agreement
1461
01:14:09,412 --> 01:14:12,982
into a real-life future
1462
01:14:13,082 --> 01:14:17,554
of hope for those who have
survived this horrible war.
1463
01:14:17,654 --> 01:14:19,889
Once the siege of Sarajevo
had been lifted,
1464
01:14:19,989 --> 01:14:22,959
that's when the hard work
really begins.
1465
01:14:23,059 --> 01:14:26,229
It's not just about rebuilding
the infrastructure.
1466
01:14:26,329 --> 01:14:29,165
It's about bringing people
back together,
1467
01:14:29,265 --> 01:14:31,200
helping them deal
with their trauma,
1468
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,202
restoring confidence
in each other,
1469
01:14:33,302 --> 01:14:35,872
restoring confidence
in the future.
1470
01:14:36,706 --> 01:14:40,043
I was a member
of Yugoslav skiing team.
1471
01:14:40,143 --> 01:14:43,312
I was 14 at the time
when the war started.
1472
01:14:43,412 --> 01:14:48,618
The team left to France
in April of 1992
1473
01:14:48,718 --> 01:14:51,588
to participate
in the European Championships.
1474
01:14:51,688 --> 01:14:53,523
We all left with two pairs
1475
01:14:53,623 --> 01:14:57,927
of skis, and we came back home
after four years.
1476
01:14:58,027 --> 01:15:00,997
I returned three months
1477
01:15:01,097 --> 01:15:04,167
after Dayton Agreement
was signed.
1478
01:15:04,267 --> 01:15:06,670
Everyone sort of welcomed me
1479
01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:11,340
with this hunger and thirst
to know what is life like,
1480
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:15,745
because their lives literally
stopped for four years.
1481
01:15:16,846 --> 01:15:20,049
Bono asked me to help
organize a concert,
1482
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:21,851
and I think we both saw this
1483
01:15:21,951 --> 01:15:25,989
as one of the ways to help
bring people back together,
1484
01:15:26,089 --> 01:15:28,491
to make Sarajevo again
the center of diversity
1485
01:15:28,592 --> 01:15:30,560
rather than the center
of suffering.
1486
01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:34,030
At some point, I heard
the words out of Bono's mouth,
1487
01:15:34,130 --> 01:15:36,065
"We are going to come
and play Sarajevo."
1488
01:15:36,165 --> 01:15:38,101
And I was like, okay,
I'm with that,
1489
01:15:38,201 --> 01:15:40,336
but that's a big thing to say.
1490
01:15:40,436 --> 01:15:42,505
They had to defeat
what was in their own head
1491
01:15:42,606 --> 01:15:47,176
in order to withstand, um,
what was outside of them.
1492
01:15:47,276 --> 01:15:49,478
I want to be there,
I want to see,
1493
01:15:49,579 --> 01:15:51,347
I want to witness
1494
01:15:51,447 --> 01:15:53,316
with this hope
that the next year
1495
01:15:53,416 --> 01:15:57,621
would be a new beginning
for this country.
1496
01:15:57,721 --> 01:16:01,490
And I knew once we'd said it,
um, that we would do it.
1497
01:16:01,591 --> 01:16:04,027
Actually, we got some news in,
which is
1498
01:16:04,127 --> 01:16:06,362
that we are playing Sarajevo,
and, uh,
1499
01:16:06,462 --> 01:16:08,197
that's pretty good,
we organized that.
1500
01:16:08,297 --> 01:16:10,099
We've been trying to do that
for a few years,
1501
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:11,801
- so pretty happy about that.
1502
01:16:11,901 --> 01:16:13,536
I got this call
1503
01:16:13,637 --> 01:16:15,104
from Dazed & Confused,
1504
01:16:15,204 --> 01:16:16,673
guy called Jefferson Hack,
1505
01:16:16,773 --> 01:16:20,476
and he said, "Howie, uh,
let's go, let's go to Sarajevo.
1506
01:16:20,576 --> 01:16:23,512
You can play on
the UN radio station."
1507
01:16:23,613 --> 01:16:25,481
I went, "Okay, cool."
1508
01:16:27,383 --> 01:16:29,085
There was trauma everywhere.
1509
01:16:29,185 --> 01:16:31,120
The city had suffered through
1510
01:16:31,220 --> 01:16:33,556
four years of war and siege.
1511
01:16:33,657 --> 01:16:35,158
Almost all the infrastructure
had been destroyed
1512
01:16:35,258 --> 01:16:37,226
and very little rebuilt.
1513
01:16:37,326 --> 01:16:39,295
The stadium that would host
the concert
1514
01:16:39,395 --> 01:16:41,397
started out its life
as an Olympic venue,
1515
01:16:41,497 --> 01:16:43,733
and then during the war,
it had to be converted
1516
01:16:43,833 --> 01:16:46,703
into a graveyard,
and now once again,
1517
01:16:46,803 --> 01:16:47,837
it would have to be
1518
01:16:47,937 --> 01:16:50,339
rebuilt to host 50,000 people.
1519
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:51,908
I talked to the band,
1520
01:16:52,008 --> 01:16:53,843
and he goes,
"What was it like?"
1521
01:16:53,943 --> 01:16:55,244
We had a conversation.
1522
01:16:55,344 --> 01:16:57,580
I told him,
it's like no-holds-barred.
1523
01:16:57,681 --> 01:17:00,316
I said,
"It's pretty fucked-up there."
1524
01:17:00,416 --> 01:17:03,186
From that point on, it became
a logistical challenge.
1525
01:17:03,286 --> 01:17:05,388
On a map, it looks like an hour
or two hours journey,
1526
01:17:05,488 --> 01:17:07,456
but, like, you could be
talking 15 hours,
1527
01:17:07,556 --> 01:17:09,826
you could be talking
an entire day to get there
1528
01:17:09,926 --> 01:17:11,260
because you don't know
what's going to happen
1529
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,196
on the particular roads.
1530
01:17:14,798 --> 01:17:17,266
I and the band
1531
01:17:17,366 --> 01:17:19,402
just said,
we've made a promise to go,
1532
01:17:19,502 --> 01:17:20,704
we're going.
1533
01:17:23,306 --> 01:17:25,041
Once the decision was made,
1534
01:17:25,141 --> 01:17:26,976
first thing
that was always asked was,
1535
01:17:27,076 --> 01:17:28,712
"Is it safe to go there?"
1536
01:17:28,812 --> 01:17:32,682
So the-the option was given
to people, sort of saying
1537
01:17:32,782 --> 01:17:35,518
that if you didn't want to go
to Sarajevo, that was okay
1538
01:17:35,618 --> 01:17:37,020
and it would not
be held against you
1539
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,121
in any shape or form.
1540
01:17:38,221 --> 01:17:40,824
Truck drivers, steelworkers,
1541
01:17:40,924 --> 01:17:42,391
advance people, caterers,
1542
01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:44,994
you name it,
everybody went to Sarajevo.
1543
01:17:49,332 --> 01:17:52,068
♪ Let 'em know...
what goes on ♪
1544
01:17:52,168 --> 01:17:54,537
♪ Rolling Stones of
the rap game, not bragging ♪
1545
01:17:54,637 --> 01:17:56,906
♪ Lips bigger than Jagger,
not saggin' ♪
1546
01:17:57,006 --> 01:17:58,975
♪ Spell it backwards,
I'm-a leave it at that ♪
1547
01:17:59,075 --> 01:18:01,310
♪ That ain't got nothing to do
with rap ♪
1548
01:18:01,410 --> 01:18:03,747
♪ Check the facts,
expose those cats ♪
1549
01:18:03,847 --> 01:18:06,049
♪ Who pose as heroes
and take advantage of Blacks ♪
1550
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:09,085
♪ Your government's gangster,
so cut the crap ♪
1551
01:18:09,185 --> 01:18:10,854
♪ A war going on
so where y'all at? ♪
1552
01:18:10,954 --> 01:18:12,889
♪ "Fight the Power"
comes great responsibility ♪
1553
01:18:12,989 --> 01:18:15,491
♪ "F" the police, but who's
stopping you from killing me? ♪
1554
01:18:15,591 --> 01:18:17,126
Could you imagine
1555
01:18:17,226 --> 01:18:18,661
that people are coming
to the streets
1556
01:18:18,762 --> 01:18:20,063
on the, on the villages
1557
01:18:20,163 --> 01:18:23,132
and cheering them,
welcoming them.
1558
01:18:23,232 --> 01:18:24,734
♪ Get up and show no fear ♪
1559
01:18:24,834 --> 01:18:26,770
♪ Get up
if y'all really care... ♪
1560
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:28,738
The response they got
from the local people,
1561
01:18:28,838 --> 01:18:30,073
it was phenomenal.
1562
01:18:30,173 --> 01:18:31,107
Till that very day,
1563
01:18:31,207 --> 01:18:32,575
most people doubted
1564
01:18:32,675 --> 01:18:35,011
that U2 was ever going
to show up in Sarajevo.
1565
01:18:35,111 --> 01:18:37,413
Nothing was a guarantee.
1566
01:18:51,627 --> 01:18:55,131
The moment
we saw those lights--
1567
01:18:55,231 --> 01:18:56,800
I get shivers even now.
1568
01:18:56,900 --> 01:19:01,504
The moment we saw those lights
approaching the-the stadium,
1569
01:19:01,604 --> 01:19:06,475
that was the moment
it all became real.
1570
01:19:06,575 --> 01:19:07,343
The band,
1571
01:19:07,443 --> 01:19:08,644
now they have to come.
1572
01:19:08,744 --> 01:19:09,745
You know, this has
1573
01:19:09,846 --> 01:19:11,280
to happen.
1574
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:17,020
And then, when they drove
into the stadium,
1575
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,588
the local crew
just cheered and clapped.
1576
01:19:22,525 --> 01:19:24,360
Because no one believed
1577
01:19:24,460 --> 01:19:26,896
that those trucks
would come to Sarajevo.
1578
01:19:26,996 --> 01:19:29,198
Younger kids, kids my age,
1579
01:19:29,298 --> 01:19:33,502
all the generations
were talking about U2.
1580
01:19:33,602 --> 01:19:36,505
It was more important
than anything else.
1581
01:19:39,375 --> 01:19:40,810
We were literally
1582
01:19:40,910 --> 01:19:43,579
saying, like, "Oh my God,
it's happening, it's happening."
1583
01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:46,449
Just feel, oh, yeah,
I can't believe we're here.
1584
01:19:46,549 --> 01:19:51,220
It's like, uh, I can't believe
we managed to pull it off.
1585
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,890
I didn't even,
I don't even believe it. Yeah.
1586
01:19:59,562 --> 01:20:02,365
We knew about ten seconds
before I got here.
1587
01:20:02,465 --> 01:20:05,501
Bono and
Paul McGuinness and the band
1588
01:20:05,601 --> 01:20:09,839
had given me the privilege
and the responsibility
1589
01:20:09,939 --> 01:20:11,740
of choosing the other acts.
1590
01:20:11,841 --> 01:20:12,942
I chose one.
1591
01:20:13,042 --> 01:20:15,411
The band was called Sikter.
1592
01:20:16,913 --> 01:20:19,548
No way.
1593
01:20:19,648 --> 01:20:21,150
No way.
1594
01:20:22,518 --> 01:20:24,854
But then we realized
it was true.
1595
01:20:27,623 --> 01:20:30,459
There's a physical
way you describe Sarajevo,
1596
01:20:30,559 --> 01:20:32,261
and then there is something
that you describe
1597
01:20:32,361 --> 01:20:35,464
that's in the minds
and hearts of people.
1598
01:20:35,564 --> 01:20:39,768
There are Orthodox churches,
Catholic cathedrals,
1599
01:20:39,869 --> 01:20:41,470
synagogues and mosques
1600
01:20:41,570 --> 01:20:43,672
that are built
right next to each other.
1601
01:20:43,772 --> 01:20:46,642
That's done over decades
and centuries.
1602
01:20:46,742 --> 01:20:50,279
That's not done because people
are fighting each other.
1603
01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:52,281
That's done because they believe
1604
01:20:52,381 --> 01:20:53,849
in coexistence.
1605
01:20:53,950 --> 01:20:56,285
So then I felt
that it was important
1606
01:20:56,385 --> 01:21:01,590
to show that Islamic Muslim
element of Bosnia, to propose
1607
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,693
the idea of the Islamic choir.
1608
01:21:04,793 --> 01:21:06,595
The type of music we perform
1609
01:21:06,695 --> 01:21:08,264
is Islamic spiritual music.
1610
01:21:08,364 --> 01:21:11,334
This concert gave us
the opportunity
1611
01:21:11,434 --> 01:21:13,402
to join these two things
together:
1612
01:21:13,502 --> 01:21:16,405
pop rock music
with spiritual music.
1613
01:21:16,505 --> 01:21:19,875
Nothing comes without a risk,
and it was clearly a risk
1614
01:21:19,976 --> 01:21:22,011
to ask an Islamic choir to play
1615
01:21:22,111 --> 01:21:23,779
on the same stage
with a rock band.
1616
01:21:23,879 --> 01:21:28,351
But if you don't show them
the benefit of diversity,
1617
01:21:28,451 --> 01:21:30,353
of sharing the marketplace
1618
01:21:30,453 --> 01:21:34,823
of ideas, that they could
again be brought to division.
1619
01:21:37,393 --> 01:21:39,095
Walking on the stage,
1620
01:21:39,195 --> 01:21:40,629
we were shaking...
1621
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:43,332
...trembling.
1622
01:21:44,968 --> 01:21:48,737
When we performed it,
there was silence.
1623
01:21:50,039 --> 01:21:51,574
A couple of seconds.
1624
01:21:55,011 --> 01:21:58,214
The audience up front
1625
01:21:58,314 --> 01:22:01,084
started clapping in rhythm.
1626
01:22:01,884 --> 01:22:05,321
Joining the rhythm that we had
and joining
1627
01:22:05,421 --> 01:22:06,889
the intonation of it.
1628
01:22:07,690 --> 01:22:09,959
They made sure that that choir
1629
01:22:10,059 --> 01:22:12,161
understood not only
that they were welcome
1630
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:15,498
but that they were
at that moment connected.
1631
01:22:15,598 --> 01:22:18,834
All these different tongues,
1632
01:22:18,934 --> 01:22:22,205
speaking with the same voice,
with one voice.
1633
01:22:22,305 --> 01:22:25,108
This tapestry of peoples.
1634
01:22:25,908 --> 01:22:28,044
It was sort of said
very much at the time
1635
01:22:28,144 --> 01:22:30,379
that-that the reason
the community wanted
1636
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,083
the concert was
because it would normalize
1637
01:22:34,183 --> 01:22:37,386
life in Sarajevo
in-in the postwar period.
1638
01:22:37,486 --> 01:22:39,322
They just wanted
to feel normal.
1639
01:22:39,422 --> 01:22:40,956
They just did not want to feel
1640
01:22:41,057 --> 01:22:42,825
like they couldn't stand
next to the person
1641
01:22:42,925 --> 01:22:46,195
because of where they were
on the religious divide.
1642
01:22:46,295 --> 01:22:47,530
The music metaphor works
1643
01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:50,499
because everybody
plays together.
1644
01:22:50,599 --> 01:22:52,035
The instruments are different,
1645
01:22:52,135 --> 01:22:53,836
the abilities may be different,
1646
01:22:53,936 --> 01:22:57,440
but you agree enough on what
the common threads are
1647
01:22:57,540 --> 01:22:59,142
that you can make
something beautiful.
1648
01:22:59,242 --> 01:23:00,976
That's the way human life is.
1649
01:23:05,814 --> 01:23:07,950
And for us,
it was important to play
1650
01:23:08,051 --> 01:23:10,786
this national anthem
of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
1651
01:23:10,886 --> 01:23:15,624
which was forbidden
just a few days before the gig,
1652
01:23:15,724 --> 01:23:17,593
because the
high representative,
1653
01:23:17,693 --> 01:23:21,097
he said that all the nations
have to agree
1654
01:23:21,197 --> 01:23:23,232
about the national anthem.
1655
01:23:23,332 --> 01:23:25,000
Some bullshit like that.
1656
01:23:25,101 --> 01:23:27,270
- And so our guitar player,
1657
01:23:27,370 --> 01:23:30,005
he came out on the stage
and he played
1658
01:23:30,106 --> 01:23:31,307
the Bosnian national anthem
1659
01:23:31,407 --> 01:23:33,676
and the whole stadium
sing with him.
1660
01:24:10,546 --> 01:24:14,417
That moment,
if you ask me, you know,
1661
01:24:14,517 --> 01:24:16,819
honestly, during the gig,
1662
01:24:16,919 --> 01:24:20,323
that was the most
emotional moment for me.
1663
01:24:36,672 --> 01:24:39,242
-Whoo!
1664
01:24:41,344 --> 01:24:43,346
Sikter!
1665
01:24:45,047 --> 01:24:46,349
In-in one moment,
1666
01:24:46,449 --> 01:24:48,251
in one moment,
1667
01:24:48,351 --> 01:24:49,685
- the lights of the stage...
- Mm-hmm.
1668
01:24:49,785 --> 01:24:51,687
never seen in my life.
1669
01:24:59,595 --> 01:25:02,365
The people, they just
1670
01:25:02,465 --> 01:25:03,366
scream.
1671
01:25:03,466 --> 01:25:05,100
Everybody scream.
1672
01:25:12,341 --> 01:25:15,978
♪ I was on the outside
when you said ♪
1673
01:25:16,078 --> 01:25:18,881
♪ You said you needed me ♪
1674
01:25:18,981 --> 01:25:22,251
♪ I was looking at myself ♪
1675
01:25:22,351 --> 01:25:24,953
♪ I was blind,
I could not see... ♪
1676
01:25:25,053 --> 01:25:27,890
I saw, including me,
1677
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:30,326
- the tears of joy, of happiness.
- Yeah.
1678
01:25:30,426 --> 01:25:32,661
♪ I will follow ♪
1679
01:25:32,761 --> 01:25:34,497
♪ If you walk away, walk away ♪
1680
01:25:34,597 --> 01:25:36,599
♪ Walk away, walk away... ♪
1681
01:25:54,717 --> 01:25:57,152
- Viva Sarajevo!
1682
01:25:57,253 --> 01:25:59,188
Fuck the past.
1683
01:25:59,288 --> 01:26:01,089
Kiss the future.
1684
01:26:01,190 --> 01:26:03,792
Viva Sarajevo!
1685
01:26:03,892 --> 01:26:06,161
- Viva Sarajevo!
1686
01:26:13,902 --> 01:26:16,138
There was this nervousness
1687
01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:19,041
in this place,
and, of course, it affects
1688
01:26:19,141 --> 01:26:20,476
Bono's voice.
1689
01:26:26,749 --> 01:26:28,083
"I've a little bit of a,
1690
01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:30,118
"a voice thing.
I'm sure it'll be fine,
1691
01:26:30,219 --> 01:26:32,255
but just be ready."
1692
01:26:32,921 --> 01:26:38,160
♪ All is quiet
on New Year's Day ♪
1693
01:26:40,162 --> 01:26:45,568
♪ A world in white
gets underway... ♪
1694
01:26:46,569 --> 01:26:49,738
When his voice suddenly broke.
1695
01:26:49,838 --> 01:26:52,074
♪ It's true ♪
1696
01:26:53,242 --> 01:26:57,380
♪ Say it's true, it's true ♪
1697
01:26:57,480 --> 01:27:00,549
♪ And we can break through ♪
1698
01:27:00,649 --> 01:27:02,017
♪ Though... ♪
1699
01:27:05,754 --> 01:27:09,091
I told Senad,
he's under such emotion.
1700
01:27:09,191 --> 01:27:11,460
♪ I ♪
1701
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,863
♪ Will be with you again ♪
1702
01:27:16,432 --> 01:27:17,966
♪ I ♪
1703
01:27:18,066 --> 01:27:21,537
♪ Will be with you again. ♪
1704
01:27:30,979 --> 01:27:32,247
He just went,
1705
01:27:32,348 --> 01:27:33,582
"Fuck it.
1706
01:27:33,682 --> 01:27:35,250
"Okay, I'm going
to use the crowd.
1707
01:27:35,351 --> 01:27:39,254
"I'm going to... I'm going to
actually share this feeling
1708
01:27:39,355 --> 01:27:40,523
and be honest."
1709
01:27:40,623 --> 01:27:42,325
And it was,
that was a mental moment.
1710
01:27:42,425 --> 01:27:45,628
Mental, mental, mental moment
when that happened.
1711
01:27:45,728 --> 01:27:47,229
"
playing)
1712
01:27:47,330 --> 01:27:49,031
♪ In the name... ♪
1713
01:27:49,131 --> 01:27:51,300
It's not about you, dude.
1714
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:52,768
It's not about your singing.
1715
01:27:52,868 --> 01:27:54,603
It's their singing.
1716
01:28:11,654 --> 01:28:12,888
Thank you.
1717
01:28:33,476 --> 01:28:36,812
I think this message
from this concert,
1718
01:28:36,912 --> 01:28:39,281
with all of us participating,
1719
01:28:39,382 --> 01:28:44,353
sent the best message
that we can live in peace
1720
01:28:44,453 --> 01:28:47,590
no matter how different we are,
1721
01:28:47,690 --> 01:28:51,159
how different our music tastes
1722
01:28:51,259 --> 01:28:52,928
or what kind
of religion we are.
1723
01:28:53,028 --> 01:28:54,797
It doesn't matter, really.
1724
01:28:54,897 --> 01:28:56,665
It doesn't matter.
1725
01:28:56,765 --> 01:28:58,467
We can live in peace.
1726
01:28:58,567 --> 01:28:59,802
Going up.
1727
01:29:25,060 --> 01:29:27,696
♪ I wanna run ♪
1728
01:29:28,731 --> 01:29:31,199
♪ Yeah, I want to hide ♪
1729
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:35,704
♪ Yeah, I wanna
tear down the walls ♪
1730
01:29:35,804 --> 01:29:38,941
♪ That hold me tonight ♪
1731
01:29:40,008 --> 01:29:43,145
♪ I wanna break through ♪
1732
01:29:43,245 --> 01:29:46,114
♪ Into a new frame ♪
1733
01:29:48,116 --> 01:29:50,285
♪ Where the streets
have no name... ♪
1734
01:29:50,385 --> 01:29:51,754
It was like a dream.
1735
01:29:51,854 --> 01:29:52,755
A whole piece
1736
01:29:52,855 --> 01:29:54,757
of dream for me.
1737
01:29:54,857 --> 01:29:55,924
Really.
1738
01:29:56,024 --> 01:29:58,060
♪ Burning down love ♪
1739
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,764
- ♪ And when I go there ♪
- ♪ Go there ♪
1740
01:30:01,864 --> 01:30:03,799
♪ I go there with you ♪
1741
01:30:03,899 --> 01:30:05,734
♪ With you ♪
1742
01:30:05,834 --> 01:30:09,738
♪ It's all I can, I can do ♪
1743
01:30:28,724 --> 01:30:32,260
These people had not
been together for six years.
1744
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:33,395
You know,
1745
01:30:33,496 --> 01:30:34,797
this is an unimaginable
1746
01:30:34,897 --> 01:30:36,131
moment.
1747
01:30:37,533 --> 01:30:42,004
I was standing
with Bill, and...
1748
01:30:42,104 --> 01:30:44,507
you know,
you look at these people...
1749
01:30:45,307 --> 01:30:49,011
...reunited again
and you're looking at, like,
1750
01:30:49,111 --> 01:30:51,480
you're-you're in the center
of the city
1751
01:30:51,580 --> 01:30:54,082
that was under the siege
1752
01:30:54,182 --> 01:30:55,684
and all of a sudden,
1753
01:30:55,784 --> 01:30:57,820
life is back there.
1754
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,988
Like, people are together,
1755
01:31:00,088 --> 01:31:01,624
singing together...
1756
01:31:03,191 --> 01:31:04,727
...dancing together,
laughing, smiling.
1757
01:31:04,827 --> 01:31:08,964
Like, people from the region,
the whole region.
1758
01:31:09,064 --> 01:31:12,167
Nobody cares about
the name or ethnicity.
1759
01:31:12,267 --> 01:31:14,803
We're all the same there,
and that's the point.
1760
01:31:14,903 --> 01:31:17,005
That was the point.
1761
01:31:17,105 --> 01:31:18,607
That's why the war
1762
01:31:18,707 --> 01:31:19,675
was pointless.
1763
01:31:19,775 --> 01:31:22,645
It-it... it never made sense.
1764
01:31:22,745 --> 01:31:25,480
And here we are together again.
1765
01:31:27,249 --> 01:31:29,585
My voice...
1766
01:31:29,685 --> 01:31:32,087
is gone.
1767
01:31:33,155 --> 01:31:37,726
But your voices are strong.
1768
01:31:41,797 --> 01:31:43,331
I ask you...
1769
01:31:44,366 --> 01:31:47,536
...to carry me
1770
01:31:47,636 --> 01:31:51,173
like you carried each other
1771
01:31:51,273 --> 01:31:54,176
in those weeks,
months and years,
1772
01:31:54,276 --> 01:31:58,981
and sing with me this song.
1773
01:32:03,451 --> 01:32:05,353
That's the moment
1774
01:32:05,453 --> 01:32:08,056
lives are dominate.
1775
01:32:08,156 --> 01:32:11,560
Because we saw
the new chance, new hope
1776
01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:14,362
that war, it's really over.
1777
01:32:15,664 --> 01:32:18,834
♪ Is it getting better ♪
1778
01:32:20,268 --> 01:32:24,072
♪ Or do you feel the same? ♪
1779
01:32:25,674 --> 01:32:31,113
♪ Will it make it
easier on you now ♪
1780
01:32:31,213 --> 01:32:33,949
♪ You got someone to blame? ♪
1781
01:32:34,049 --> 01:32:38,654
♪ You say one love ♪
1782
01:32:38,754 --> 01:32:40,155
♪ One life ♪
1783
01:32:41,356 --> 01:32:45,994
♪ One need in the night ♪
1784
01:32:46,094 --> 01:32:48,664
♪ One love ♪
1785
01:32:48,764 --> 01:32:51,199
♪ We get to share it ♪
1786
01:32:51,299 --> 01:32:53,769
♪ Leaves you, baby ♪
1787
01:32:53,869 --> 01:32:57,272
♪ If you don't care for it ♪
1788
01:33:08,316 --> 01:33:10,986
♪ Did I disappoint you? ♪
1789
01:33:12,755 --> 01:33:16,324
♪ Leave a bad taste
in your mouth? ♪
1790
01:33:17,793 --> 01:33:21,463
♪ You act like
you never had love ♪
1791
01:33:23,465 --> 01:33:26,769
♪ And you want me
to go without ♪
1792
01:33:26,869 --> 01:33:30,673
♪ Is it too late ♪
1793
01:33:30,773 --> 01:33:33,508
♪ Tonight ♪
1794
01:33:33,608 --> 01:33:38,714
♪ To drag the past out
into the light? ♪
1795
01:33:38,814 --> 01:33:43,318
♪ We're one,
but we're not the same ♪
1796
01:33:43,418 --> 01:33:45,988
♪ We get to carry each other ♪
1797
01:33:46,088 --> 01:33:47,856
♪ Carry each other ♪
1798
01:33:47,956 --> 01:33:51,426
♪ One ♪
1799
01:33:51,526 --> 01:33:54,763
I am not saying that song
1800
01:33:54,863 --> 01:33:56,665
stops the war.
1801
01:33:57,465 --> 01:34:01,136
However, if enough of us
start singing
1802
01:34:01,236 --> 01:34:06,108
and actively participated
in stopping insanity,
1803
01:34:06,208 --> 01:34:07,743
insanity will stop.
1804
01:34:09,912 --> 01:34:12,347
♪ Did I ask too much? ♪
1805
01:34:12,447 --> 01:34:14,783
♪ More than a lot? ♪
1806
01:34:14,883 --> 01:34:20,555
♪ You gave me nothing,
now it's all I got ♪
1807
01:34:20,655 --> 01:34:22,825
♪ We're one ♪
1808
01:34:22,925 --> 01:34:24,526
♪ We're not the same, yeah ♪
1809
01:34:24,626 --> 01:34:29,364
♪ We hurt each other,
then we do it again ♪
1810
01:34:29,464 --> 01:34:33,001
♪ You say love is a temple ♪
1811
01:34:33,101 --> 01:34:35,938
♪ Love a higher law ♪
1812
01:34:36,038 --> 01:34:38,774
♪ Then you make me crawl ♪
1813
01:34:38,874 --> 01:34:41,209
♪ I can't be holding on ♪
1814
01:34:41,309 --> 01:34:44,579
♪ To what you've got ♪
1815
01:34:44,679 --> 01:34:46,749
♪ When all you got is hurt ♪
1816
01:34:46,849 --> 01:34:49,617
♪ One love ♪
1817
01:34:49,718 --> 01:34:51,419
♪ One blood ♪
1818
01:34:51,519 --> 01:34:56,191
♪ One life, you get to do
what you should ♪
1819
01:34:57,726 --> 01:34:59,694
♪ One life ♪
1820
01:34:59,795 --> 01:35:01,864
♪ With each other ♪
1821
01:35:01,964 --> 01:35:04,532
♪ Every man my sister ♪
1822
01:35:04,632 --> 01:35:07,302
♪ Every woman my brother ♪
1823
01:35:11,373 --> 01:35:14,276
To be united is a great thing.
1824
01:35:15,778 --> 01:35:19,181
But to respect difference
1825
01:35:19,281 --> 01:35:21,516
may be even a greater thing.
1826
01:35:23,051 --> 01:35:25,553
So, for the city
of the future...
1827
01:35:26,554 --> 01:35:28,056
Sarajevo!
1828
01:35:28,156 --> 01:35:30,759
- City of the future!
1829
01:35:30,859 --> 01:35:33,261
Sarajevo!
1830
01:35:33,361 --> 01:35:35,663
City of the future!
1831
01:35:39,201 --> 01:35:41,136
♪ You hear us coming, Lord? ♪
1832
01:35:41,236 --> 01:35:43,972
♪ You hear us call? ♪
1833
01:35:44,072 --> 01:35:45,607
♪ Hear us knocking ♪
1834
01:35:45,707 --> 01:35:48,110
♪ We're knocking at your door ♪
1835
01:35:56,251 --> 01:35:58,153
♪ Yeah ♪
1836
01:36:22,010 --> 01:36:24,312
That was not just a concert.
1837
01:36:25,247 --> 01:36:27,649
That was...
1838
01:36:27,749 --> 01:36:30,886
that was something
totally extraordinary.
1839
01:36:30,986 --> 01:36:33,421
♪ Oh ♪
1840
01:36:33,521 --> 01:36:36,224
♪ Oh, my love... ♪
1841
01:36:36,324 --> 01:36:39,895
What the band did that night,
1842
01:36:39,995 --> 01:36:41,763
bringing us all together
1843
01:36:41,864 --> 01:36:45,800
to be together,
to-to heal together,
1844
01:36:45,901 --> 01:36:47,702
to reconcile.
1845
01:36:47,802 --> 01:36:49,938
♪ A long... ♪
1846
01:36:50,038 --> 01:36:54,309
That was something...
that never happened again.
1847
01:36:54,409 --> 01:36:58,280
♪ And time goes by... ♪
1848
01:36:58,380 --> 01:37:01,616
On one hand,
it was a very serious reminder
1849
01:37:01,716 --> 01:37:06,922
that one and only thing
that matters,
1850
01:37:07,022 --> 01:37:08,891
that universal,
1851
01:37:08,991 --> 01:37:11,059
unconditional love
1852
01:37:11,159 --> 01:37:12,194
and the fact that
1853
01:37:12,294 --> 01:37:14,729
that night we were all one
1854
01:37:14,829 --> 01:37:17,866
and everyone knew it
and everyone felt it.
1855
01:37:17,966 --> 01:37:21,536
I-I felt like it was...
1856
01:37:21,636 --> 01:37:26,574
a perfect spark
that was ignited for this
1857
01:37:26,674 --> 01:37:30,345
collective healing
that had to happen,
1858
01:37:30,445 --> 01:37:33,348
for this reconciliation
that had to happen.
1859
01:37:33,448 --> 01:37:36,484
But I also have to say,
1860
01:37:36,584 --> 01:37:40,122
I seriously wonder
in this moment whether...
1861
01:37:41,890 --> 01:37:45,928
...whether we need that concert
more today
1862
01:37:46,028 --> 01:37:49,431
than we needed it in '97.
1863
01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:18,260
...his divisive
presidential campaign.
1864
01:38:27,802 --> 01:38:31,573
♪ Here she comes ♪
1865
01:38:34,509 --> 01:38:37,479
♪ Heads turn around ♪
1866
01:38:37,579 --> 01:38:40,615
♪ Here she comes ♪
1867
01:38:43,251 --> 01:38:46,754
♪ To take her crown ♪
1868
01:38:47,589 --> 01:38:52,027
♪ Is there a time
to run for cover? ♪
1869
01:38:52,127 --> 01:38:57,032
♪ Is there a time
for kiss and tell? ♪
1870
01:38:57,132 --> 01:39:01,703
♪ Is there a time
for different colors? ♪
1871
01:39:01,803 --> 01:39:07,042
♪ Different names
you find it hard to spell. ♪
1872
01:39:45,013 --> 01:39:49,617
♪ Old pirates,
yes, they rob I ♪
1873
01:39:49,717 --> 01:39:53,721
♪ Sold I
to the merchant ships ♪
1874
01:39:54,922 --> 01:39:57,925
♪ Minutes after they took I ♪
1875
01:39:58,693 --> 01:40:02,230
♪ From the bottomless pit ♪
1876
01:40:02,330 --> 01:40:07,269
♪ But my hand was made strong ♪
1877
01:40:07,369 --> 01:40:10,538
♪ By the hand of the Almighty ♪
1878
01:40:10,638 --> 01:40:15,343
♪ We forward
in this generation ♪
1879
01:40:16,244 --> 01:40:19,447
♪ Triumphantly ♪
1880
01:40:19,547 --> 01:40:22,417
♪ Won't you help to sing ♪
1881
01:40:24,419 --> 01:40:27,489
♪ These songs of freedom? ♪
1882
01:40:27,589 --> 01:40:30,825
♪ 'Cause all I ever have ♪
1883
01:40:32,694 --> 01:40:35,830
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1884
01:40:37,132 --> 01:40:40,435
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1885
01:40:41,769 --> 01:40:45,607
♪ Emancipate yourselves
from mental slavery ♪
1886
01:40:45,707 --> 01:40:49,711
♪ None but ourselves
can free our minds ♪
1887
01:40:49,811 --> 01:40:53,781
♪ Have no fear
for atomic energy ♪
1888
01:40:53,881 --> 01:40:58,086
♪ 'Cause none of them
can stop the time ♪
1889
01:40:58,186 --> 01:41:01,856
♪ How long shall they kill
our prophets ♪
1890
01:41:01,956 --> 01:41:05,560
♪ While we stand aside
and look? ♪
1891
01:41:05,660 --> 01:41:10,098
♪ Ooh, some say it's just
a part of it ♪
1892
01:41:10,198 --> 01:41:14,001
♪ We've got to fulfill
the book ♪
1893
01:41:15,303 --> 01:41:18,540
♪ Won't you help to sing ♪
1894
01:41:19,774 --> 01:41:22,844
♪ These songs of freedom? ♪
1895
01:41:22,944 --> 01:41:26,381
♪ 'Cause all I ever have ♪
1896
01:41:27,582 --> 01:41:30,918
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1897
01:41:31,953 --> 01:41:35,089
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1898
01:41:36,191 --> 01:41:39,394
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1899
01:41:57,212 --> 01:42:01,249
♪ Emancipate yourselves
from mental slavery ♪
1900
01:42:01,349 --> 01:42:05,052
♪ None but ourselves
can free our mind ♪
1901
01:42:05,153 --> 01:42:09,391
♪ Whoa! Have no fear
for atomic energy ♪
1902
01:42:09,491 --> 01:42:13,695
♪ 'Cause none of them-ah
can-ah stop-ah the time ♪
1903
01:42:13,795 --> 01:42:17,332
♪ How long shall they kill
our prophets ♪
1904
01:42:17,432 --> 01:42:21,002
♪ While we stand aside
and look? ♪
1905
01:42:21,102 --> 01:42:25,540
♪ Yes, some say
it's just a part of it ♪
1906
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,911
♪ We've got to fulfill
the book ♪
1907
01:42:30,011 --> 01:42:33,014
♪ Won't you help to sing ♪
1908
01:42:35,049 --> 01:42:37,885
♪ These songs of freedom? ♪
1909
01:42:37,985 --> 01:42:41,189
♪ 'Cause all I ever have ♪
1910
01:42:42,924 --> 01:42:45,860
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1911
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,996
♪ All I ever have ♪
1912
01:42:51,032 --> 01:42:54,068
♪ Redemption songs ♪
1913
01:42:55,203 --> 01:42:58,540
♪ These songs of freedom ♪
1914
01:42:59,607 --> 01:43:01,909
♪ Songs of freedom. ♪