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[man]<i> Hello, boys and girls.</i>

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<i>This is Tim Ferriss,</i>

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<i>and welcome to</i>
<i>"The Tim Ferriss Show".</i>

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<i>In this episode, we have</i>

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<i>one of the most recognized</i>
<i>climbers in the world,</i>

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<i>Alex Honnold.</i>

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<i>-Welcome to the show.</i>
-[Alex]<i> Thanks for having me.</i>

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[Tim]<i> Alex, who impresses you</i>
<i>right now?</i>

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[Alex]<i> This kid Marc-André</i>
<i>Leclerc. This Canadian guy.</i>

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<i>Hardly anyone has heard of him</i>

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<i>because he's so under</i>
<i>the radar.</i>

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<i>He's been doing, like, all</i>
<i>kinds of crazy alpine soloing.</i>

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[Tim]<i> What makes it so crazy?</i>

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[Alex]
<i>He just goes out and climbs</i>

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<i>some of the most</i>
<i>difficult walls</i>

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<i>and alpine faces in the world.</i>

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<i>The most challenging things</i>

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<i>that anyone's ever climbed,</i>
<i>really.</i>

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[Tim]<i> So he's just next level?</i>

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[Alex]<i> Yeah, it's, like, so</i>
<i>crazy. Like, I don't know.</i>

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[Tim]<i> And for those people</i>

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<i>who want to see visuals</i>
<i>on this stuff,</i>

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<i>we'll grab some video</i>
<i>and links...</i>

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[Alex]<i> An interesting thing</i>
<i>about Marc-André</i>

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<i>is I don't know</i>
<i>if there is video</i>

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<i>of most of the stuff</i>
<i>he's doing.</i>

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[Tim]<i> Oh, really?</i>

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[Alex]<i> Yeah, he's just going</i>
<i>out and climbing for himself</i>

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<i>in such a pure style.</i>
<i>It's pretty full on.</i>

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[breathing heavily]

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[wind whistles]

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[narrator]<i> At 23 years old,</i>
<i>Marc-André Leclerc</i>

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<i>was already one of the boldest</i>
<i>alpinists of his generation.</i>

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<i>But he was</i>
<i>almost completely unknown.</i>

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[narrator]<i> I spent two years</i>
<i>following this elusive climber,</i>

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<i>trying to document his ascents,</i>

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<i>and understand</i>
<i>his wild vision of adventure.</i>

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[narrator]<i> Throughout</i>
<i>my journey with Marc,</i>

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<i>I kept coming back</i>
<i>to these mysteries</i>

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<i>at the heart of climbing</i>

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<i>that have gripped me</i>
<i>since I was a kid.</i>

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<i>Growing up as a young climber</i>
<i>in Colorado,</i>

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<i>I idolized the legendary</i>
<i>free-soloist Derek Hersey,</i>

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<i>scaling the cliffs above town</i>
<i>with no rope.</i>

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<i>Just a chalk bag and a pair</i>
<i>of old climbing shoes.</i>

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[laughs]

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[narrator]<i> But one day,</i>
<i>Derek was out soloing</i>

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<i>and he fell.</i>

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[man]<i> Derek Hersey</i>
<i>was killed last week.</i>

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<i>Some people thought he had</i>
<i>a death wish, but he said,</i>

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<i>"There's nothing else</i>
<i>that makes me feel so alive."</i>

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[Peter]<i> Ever since then,</i>
<i>I've been fascinated</i>

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<i>by these</i>
<i>larger-than-life figures...</i>

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Getting ready.

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<i>...who push the limits</i>
<i>of adventure in the mountains.</i>

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[grunts]

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[narrator]<i> I've seen</i>
<i>some amazing things...</i>

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[woman 1]<i> Tommy Caldwell</i>
<i>attempting to free climb</i>

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<i>the Dawn Wall.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>...and been left to grieve...</i>

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[woman]
<i>Dean Potter lost his life.</i>

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[narrator]<i> ...when friends died</i>
<i>pursuing their passion</i>

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[woman 2]<i> One of the world's</i>
<i>best-known mountaineers</i>

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<i>Ueli Steck has died</i>
<i>in an accident.</i>

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[narrator]
<i>After 20 years of filming,</i>

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<i>I'm not sure I've gotten any</i>
<i>closer to understanding at all.</i>

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Fucking hell.

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Check out the no-hands knee bar,
baby.

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[narrator]
Alex, why take the risk?

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-Why not use a rope?
-Uh...

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Those are just dumb questions.
[laughs]

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[cheering]

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[narrator]<i> Meanwhile, the sport</i>
<i>of climbing has changed a lot.</i>

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Let's head to the gym! Boom!

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[narrator]
<i>What was once a rogue activity</i>

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<i>for misfits and vagabonds</i>
<i>has hit the big time.</i>

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[man]<i> Rock climbing</i>
<i>makes its Olympic debut.</i>

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[narrator]<i> Climbers have become</i>
<i>superstar athletes...</i>

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It's raised my profile
a little bit, for sure.

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<i>...with armies</i>
<i>of social media followers.</i>

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<i>And their ascents</i>
<i>are celebrated and hyped.</i>

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[woman]<i> Professional climbers</i>

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<i>are sharing Snapchat videos</i>
<i>from Everest.</i>

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This is hair by Everest.

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It's a new hashtag,
it's a thing.

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-Hair by Everest.
-It's a thing.

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<i>So I was surprised to come</i>
<i>across an obscure blog post</i>

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<i>about an unknown</i>
<i>young Canadian climber</i>

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<i>by the name</i>
<i>of Marc-André Leclerc.</i>

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<i>He had climbed a 4,000-foot</i>
<i>route of rock and ice</i>

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<i>in one of the harshest</i>
<i>environments on Earth.</i>

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<i>And all by himself.</i>

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<i>This was a monumental feat,</i>

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<i>but it was just a handful</i>
<i>of close observers</i>

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<i>freaking out about it online.</i>

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<i>So, who was this guy?</i>

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<i>To find out, I headed up</i>
<i>to Squamish, British Columbia,</i>

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<i>the heart</i>
<i>of the Canadian climbing scene.</i>

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[strums guitar]

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Weird-looking donuts, guys

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We got some fresh bites for you.

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-You wanna buy a donut?
-Yeah, sure.

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Full donut's two bucks.

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[quiet chatter]

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[laughter]

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[Peter]<i> When I first met Marc,</i>

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<i>I didn't know</i>
<i>what to make of him.</i>

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This is called
"a sky hump into a front flip".

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[laughs]

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[man] Wow.

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You want one?

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All right.

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[Peter]<i> He was clearly</i>
<i>unaccustomed</i>

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<i>to being in front</i>
<i>of the camera.</i>

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Whoa. That's a crazy light.

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[Peter]
Clap in front of your face.

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Cool. So tell us
how old you are,

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where you're from,
and what you do.

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Cool. I'm Marc-André Leclerc

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and I'm from the Fraser Valley,
British Columbia,

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lived in BC my whole life.

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I'm 23 years old

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and I'm a climber,
generally speaking.

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Yeah, as a young climber
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Squamish was, like,
the place to go.

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The most accessible
big steep cliff

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with super-rad hard
routes,

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the center of
the climbing universe, I guess.

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[Peter]<i> Marc had moved</i>
<i>to Squamish,</i>

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<i>fresh out of high school,</i>

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<i>eager to join the ranks of</i>
<i>the hard-core local climbers.</i>

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Right away, as soon
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he was pretty hard to miss

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because of his crazy,
youthful exuberance and stoke.

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Come down and switch the rope.

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[Marc] I think I was,
like, pretty dorky.

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[laughs] Like, super psyched.

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And I was always
sort of chomping at the bit,

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like, gotta get up early,

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like, climb until
my fingertips are bleeding.

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[groans]

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He was not afraid to jump
right into the deep end.

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[grunts]

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Oh, no! Oh, shit.

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[man 1] Crazy.

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[man 2] He came in
just all guns blazing.

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I was like, "This kid's
a really special breed."

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[man] He was a bit young
and brash.

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You know, it's like, "I'm here,"
you know what I mean?

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But if you're not young
and brash

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between 17 and about 24,

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you might as well
shoot yourself,

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cos that's when people
are young and brash.

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[Will] Marc was just
a true dirtbag.

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Like, seriously broke.

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He didn't have a car,
he didn't even have a phone.

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[Marc] I had a phone
for a while.

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Left it in a stuff sack
with some smoked salmon

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and then the phone
was stolen by a wild fox.

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[Peter] No way!

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I feel like maybe
I'm just better off without one.

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For a couple of summers there,

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he was, like,
living in a stairwell.

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It was surprising
when he managed

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to find a cute blonde girl

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to live in the stairwell
with him. [laughs]

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His stairwell
was just, like, a small futon

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at the bottom of the stairwell,
like, an entryway.

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The longer time I spent there,
the more it became decorated.

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So then, like, he had tapestries
and pictures.

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His stairwell became,
like, the lounge.

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There was no need
to live luxuriously,

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because we have
what we want, which is climbing.

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It was easiest just to live
as cheaply as we could.

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And then we decided to just
move into a tent in the forest.

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I was attracted to him

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because he was so different
than anyone I'd ever met.

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He was also
super socially awkward.

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But I didn't care,
cos, like, that's who he is

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and I love him for that.

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-Going on?
-Look, there he is.

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Your timing's perfect, guys.
You nearly missed me.

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They call me Hevy Duty.

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It's a nickname that's been
with me since the early '70s.

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I'm more like Light Duty now
than Hevy Duty. Or Old Duty.

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Hevy is kind of, like, the mayor
of Squamish rock climbing.

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He's also, like,
a hula hoop expert.

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[dance music plays]

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All right.

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I am the hoop guy.

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[Peter] Yeah, tell me
about Marc-André.

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I can tell Marc-André stories
all day.

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[Peter] Please do, yeah.

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My first memories of Marc-André

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was seeing him come running out
of the forest in Squamish,

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barefoot with no shirt.

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He just broke my speed record
on the Grand Wall

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and I was just like,
"Who is that guy?"

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The Grand Wall might be the most
iconic route in Squamish.

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I'd climbed it the fastest
bottom to top.

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Speed records are a game.

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They're not the most important
thing in climbing,

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but I do love speed records.

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And then this local kid,

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who I'd never heard of,
did it faster.

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[Marc] I was soloing the route
quite regularly,

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and one time, I just decided to
see how long it would take me.

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I got to the top
and checked the time,

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I was, like,
two or three minutes faster

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than the established record.

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And suddenly, Alex Honnold
came back to Squamish

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to get his record back
on the Grand Wall

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that I had kind of, like,
unintentionally broken.

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I was like,
"Oh, man, I'm gonna go fast."

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He totally destroyed it.
He cut my time in half.

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[Alex] I think
I did quite a bit faster.

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Enough so that it
discouraged Marc

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from ever wanting
to try again. [laughs]

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Marc is a very, very driven
climber,

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but he doesn't care
about accolades.

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He doesn't even care if anybody
knows what he's climbing.

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I've always approach climbing
from an athletic background.

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I grew up climbing in the gym

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and I think of it
more as a sport.

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But he cares about,

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I don't wanna say
the spiritual component,

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but he cares
about the experience

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in the mountains,
and the journey,

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and just wants
to have a good time

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while he's out there.

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And I really respect that.
It's a...

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I mean, obviously,
it contributes to him

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performing
at such a crazy level.

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[Peter]<i> The first climb</i>
<i>we filmed with Marc</i>

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<i>was a solo ascent</i>
<i>of the Grand Wall.</i>

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[birds sing]

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<i>It's always nerve-racking</i>

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<i>to film someone</i>
<i>climbing without a rope.</i>

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<i>But for Marc, this was</i>
<i>just part of his daily routine.</i>

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[Marc] When I'm soloing
rock climbs,

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I don't really like
to feel like I'm pushing myself.

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That's not the reason
for soloing rock for me.

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I don't like to feel

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like I'm doing something
intense and scary or...

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[Peter] So then why do it?

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Like, more just
to have a casual fun adventure

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and... cruise around.

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[Hevy] And when
you watch him climb,

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he's just magic on the rock.

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He's got style, he doesn't
lunge, he's very precise.

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There's not the slightest margin
for error

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from the minute you set off,
is there?

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[Peter]<i> Watching Marc move</i>
<i>so beautifully up the wall,</i>

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<i>it was clear this goofy,</i>
<i>unassuming kid</i>

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<i>was a master of his craft.</i>

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[Brette] I really love
just watching him climbing.

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Marc is a very calm and, like,
steady, controlled climber.

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Hey, Marco, I missed you.

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[Marc] Yeah, I missed you, too.

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[they laugh]

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[Brette] I get the fact
that he wants to solo,

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because I love it, too.

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I'm feeling really, like, calm
and good with soloing, too,

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so I would be psyched
on going and climbing...

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It puts you directly
in the present.

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You can't be thinking
about anything else.

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And you're interacting
and improvising in the moment.

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And you're just in control.

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[Marc] When I first met Brette,

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she definitely had
a pretty big impact on me.

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At that time, I'd lost touch

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with the whole
climbing portion of my life.

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There is a really lively
party scene in Squamish.

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Definitely got hard
into the partying.

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At the beginning, it was pretty,
like, basic experimentation,

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like, it was really fun

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to experience all these
different states of mind.

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It's almost like a parallel
to climbing.

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My friends like
to explore a little bit,

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and sometimes
I like to explore a lot,

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and it was the same
with the partying.

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Everyone would wanna
take a tab of acid

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and hang out
and have a good time,

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and I'd wanna take
six tabs of acid

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and disappear for 20 hours.

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[laughs]

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But I got to the point

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where I felt like
I couldn't really do anything

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without taking drugs.

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Which isn't a healthy place
to be.

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I remember that.

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[Marc] When Brette and I started
climbing together,

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she was just totally
going for it.

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Hanging out with her
reminded me of what I'd lost,

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what it was like
to be... spirited.

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-[Brette] Fun.
-[Marc] Yeah, super fun, hey?

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[Brette] Yeah.

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I could see how Marc could
have easily slid down that path,

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the dark side of drug life.

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[indistinct conversation]

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-[man] Have a good day, guys.
-[Marc] Thanks, guys.

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[Brette] Marc is interested
in intense experiences

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and living to the fullest.

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Drugs can provide some version
of that, but it's not genuine.

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And I think he recognized that
climbing is the real experience.

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-[Marc] Nice, Brette.
-[Brette] It's so cool.

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[Marc] I know,
isn't it beautiful?

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[laughs]

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-What a fun route.
-See?

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[Brette] I know for Marc,

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rock climbing in Squamish
is all about having fun.

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But Marc's vision is more
towards soloing big alpine faces

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on beautiful mountains.

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He loves the mountains
and he is definitely ambitious.

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He wants to improve upon
what's been done before

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to make his contribution
to the history of alpinism.

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[Peter]<i> Alpinism, the discipline</i>

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<i>of climbing big</i>
<i>technical mountains,</i>

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<i>is more than just a sport.</i>

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<i>It's an ideal that has evolved</i>
<i>over generations.</i>

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[pipes blare]

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<i>In the first half</i>
<i>of the 20th century,</i>

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<i>large-scale expeditions used</i>
<i>lots of equipment and manpower</i>

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<i>to conquer</i>
<i>the world's highest peaks.</i>

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[newsreel]<i> They stand victorious</i>

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<i>on the windswept roof</i>
<i>of the world.</i>

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[applause]

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[Peter]<i> By the 1950s,</i>

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<i>it was no longer about getting</i>
<i>to the top of the mountain,</i>

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<i>but how you got there.</i>

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<i>In the European Alps,</i>

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<i>there was a revolution</i>

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00:20:58,621 --> 00:21:02,359
<i>in climbing technique</i>
<i>and philosophy.</i>

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<i>Smaller teams using less gear</i>

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<i>tackled steeper</i>
<i>and more dangerous faces.</i>

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[man] That was the next step
in the evolution of alpinism.

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Climbing harder, climbing faster
and climbing in better style.

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A rope, a rack, and the pack
on your back, that's all you get

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and you have to make it work
with that.

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[woman] When you look
through the history of alpinism,

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climbing was a form of freedom.

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It was physical freedom,

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but it was also
a philosophical freedom.

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And the ultimate experience
of freedom was to climb alone.

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Unfettered, unleashed,
absolutely solo.

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Solo climbing on a high level
is an expression of art.

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The art of surviving
in the most crazy situations.

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[Peter]<i> While solo alpinism</i>
<i>may be the purest,</i>

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<i>most adventurous form</i>
<i>of climbing,</i>

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<i>it's also the deadliest.</i>

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Maybe half of the leading
solo climbers of all times

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died in the mountains,

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and this is tragic
and it's difficult to defend.

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But this is the philosophy.

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If you're going in an adventure,
you need difficulties.

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You need danger.

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If death was not a possibility,
coming out would be nothing.

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It would be kindergarten.

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But not an adventure
and not an art.

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[wind whistles]

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[Peter]<i> A few months</i>
<i>after our shoot in Squamish,</i>

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<i>we followed Marc</i>
<i>to the Canadian Rockies</i>

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<i>where he'd come for the</i>
<i>world-renowned ice climbing.</i>

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[Marc] There's always a point

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where I just cannot wait
for ice-climbing season.

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I'm just ready
to go climb frozen waterfalls.

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[Peter]<i> Ice climbing</i>
<i>is a crucial skill in alpinism.</i>

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<i>Over the years,</i>

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<i>it's developed into</i>
<i>its own highly technical sport</i>

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<i>and the ice in Canmore</i>
<i>is a proving ground.</i>

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<i>By the time we arrived,</i>

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<i>Marc had already been there</i>
<i>for a few weeks,</i>

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<i>camping outside of town</i>

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<i>and climbing things</i>
<i>that had the locals talking.</i>

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[man] First time I heard
about Marc-André,

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he was living in a snow cave

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on the parkway or something.
[laughs]

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And he was, like, soloing all
these ice routes all day long.

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I was like, "Here's somebody

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who's just going after it
and pushing things

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that is pretty much unknown."

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[man] Ice climbing, solo, it's
not something many people do.

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You're climbing frozen water

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with just a few centimeters
of your ice tools

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and crampons in the ice.

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It's a very ephemeral medium.

389
00:24:36,971 --> 00:24:40,071
Climbing something that wasn't
there maybe a few weeks earlier

390
00:24:40,106 --> 00:24:43,008
and that might not be there
the next day

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if the thing you're climbing on
decides to collapse.

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[Alex] People think
the free soloing

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that I'm doing seems crazy,

394
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but what I'm doing is on rock.

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It's safe in a lot of ways.
The medium is super solid.

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And then I see Marc-André
free soloing on ice and snow.

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It just shows so much experience

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on such different kinds
of terrain.

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[man] In all my years
of climbing,

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00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:18,780
I don't think I've seen
another climber

401
00:25:18,815 --> 00:25:22,245
quite as hungry for it
as Marc-André.

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00:25:26,724 --> 00:25:30,528
He's got this headspace
that nobody else seems to have.

403
00:25:34,061 --> 00:25:36,160
Nothing fazes him.

404
00:26:02,122 --> 00:26:04,287
Marc doesn't just solo the ice,

405
00:26:04,322 --> 00:26:07,290
he goes out and solos
mixed routes.

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00:26:09,701 --> 00:26:11,965
[Marc] With mixed climbing,
it's the whole mentality

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00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,300
of the ice doesn't have to be
fully formed to be climbed.

408
00:26:17,335 --> 00:26:20,875
[Raphael] Instead of embedding
your picks in the ice,

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00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:25,011
you're just kind of placing them
on these little rock edges.

410
00:26:25,046 --> 00:26:28,179
That adds another dimension
of insecurity.

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[Peter]<i> Filming Marc</i>

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<i>on this insecure terrain</i>
<i>was terrifying.</i>

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00:27:00,114 --> 00:27:03,753
<i>But he couldn't have been</i>
<i>more relaxed.</i>

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00:27:03,788 --> 00:27:06,382
[Peter] Holy shit, dude.

415
00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:09,022
<i>Then he took it up a notch</i>

416
00:27:09,057 --> 00:27:14,962
<i>by climbing solo on</i>
<i>the notorious Stanley Headwall.</i>

417
00:27:14,997 --> 00:27:17,701
[Marc] The Stanley Headwall
is the centerpiece

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00:27:17,736 --> 00:27:20,231
of Rockies mixed climbing.

419
00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:22,772
None of the ice
is a hundred percent continuous.

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00:27:22,807 --> 00:27:27,172
It forms in blobs,
and pillars and hanging daggers.

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00:27:27,207 --> 00:27:30,175
You have to climb steep,
overhanging rock

422
00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:32,012
just to get to the ice.

423
00:27:33,477 --> 00:27:37,083
And so it makes for really good,
engaging climbing.

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00:27:42,486 --> 00:27:44,959
[Barry] There's a high degree
of craftsmanship

425
00:27:44,994 --> 00:27:49,898
that has to go into
the mixed-climbing equation.

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00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:52,032
The pick of an ice ax
can hang on

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00:27:52,067 --> 00:27:54,298
to just the smallest of edges.

428
00:28:01,274 --> 00:28:04,847
But you don't have nerves
going to the end of the ice ax.

429
00:28:06,081 --> 00:28:09,885
You have to evaluate and test.

430
00:28:13,286 --> 00:28:15,154
[Raphael] The difference between

431
00:28:15,189 --> 00:28:17,255
having your pick
solidly seated on a hold

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00:28:17,290 --> 00:28:22,832
and having that pick explode
off of it is very, very small.

433
00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,778
[Alex] I don't know
if I've seen someone

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00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:36,879
climb bare-handed
with ice tools

435
00:28:38,443 --> 00:28:40,443
in the freezing temps,
being able to improvise

436
00:28:40,478 --> 00:28:45,448
between pulling on the rock
and pulling on ice tools.

437
00:28:45,483 --> 00:28:48,792
He's just combining all these
unconventional tactics.

438
00:30:51,147 --> 00:30:52,542
[ice crunches]

439
00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:23,177
[Barry] Marc soloing the Stanley
Headwall, it's just like, "Wow!

440
00:31:23,212 --> 00:31:26,543
I never thought of that
in my wildest dreams."

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00:31:28,118 --> 00:31:32,087
-[Peter] How was it?
-It was super fun. Yeah.

442
00:31:32,122 --> 00:31:34,958
-[Peter] Scary?
-No, not particularly.

443
00:31:36,654 --> 00:31:42,196
-[Peter] Just another day out?
-A really good day out. Yeah.

444
00:31:42,231 --> 00:31:44,528
Definitely a memorable day out.

445
00:31:44,563 --> 00:31:48,004
[Raphael] Marc-André
soloing those routes

446
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,434
was pretty stunning.

447
00:31:49,469 --> 00:31:52,569
I think right there that made me
sit up and go, "Wow!

448
00:31:52,604 --> 00:31:54,912
Who is this guy?"

449
00:31:59,743 --> 00:32:01,578
[train bell clangs]

450
00:32:06,387 --> 00:32:10,290
[Marc] I grew up
near a town called Chilliwack.

451
00:32:10,325 --> 00:32:13,128
In Chilliwack, you become
completely desensitized

452
00:32:13,163 --> 00:32:15,658
to the smell of cow manure,

453
00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:18,562
but it's surrounded
by beautiful mountains.

454
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,199
When we were growing up,

455
00:32:20,234 --> 00:32:22,467
my dad was doing
construction jobs

456
00:32:22,502 --> 00:32:25,536
and my mom
was serving in restaurants.

457
00:32:25,571 --> 00:32:27,472
[Peter] Aren't you and your mom
really close?

458
00:32:27,507 --> 00:32:28,540
Yeah.

459
00:32:28,575 --> 00:32:33,379
My mom, she's definitely been
a big influence on me.

460
00:32:33,414 --> 00:32:34,413
It's kind of hard to explain.

461
00:32:34,449 --> 00:32:38,351
We've just been really
good friends my whole life.

462
00:32:38,386 --> 00:32:41,354
Marc-André did have
some challenges as a kid.

463
00:32:41,389 --> 00:32:44,423
He certainly didn't come
into this world

464
00:32:44,458 --> 00:32:47,228
as a square peg
ready to fit into a square hole.

465
00:32:47,263 --> 00:32:50,330
And he had a diagnosis of ADHD.

466
00:32:50,365 --> 00:32:52,761
So, he didn't sit
still for very long

467
00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:54,730
and he didn't fit easily

468
00:32:54,765 --> 00:32:58,404
into the typical
educational environment.

469
00:32:58,439 --> 00:33:01,539
Kindergarten was awesome,
like, that first year.

470
00:33:01,574 --> 00:33:05,345
You build things out of blocks,
and do art,

471
00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:07,314
and that kind of stuff.

472
00:33:07,349 --> 00:33:09,613
When it started
into actual first grade,

473
00:33:09,648 --> 00:33:11,153
and we had to sit at our desks,

474
00:33:11,188 --> 00:33:14,651
it turned into hell for me.
[laughs]

475
00:33:14,686 --> 00:33:16,620
For a kid
who had a ton of energy,

476
00:33:16,655 --> 00:33:17,521
who loved to learn,

477
00:33:17,556 --> 00:33:20,591
he was losing
his, his joy in learning,

478
00:33:20,626 --> 00:33:22,494
you know, to be in school,

479
00:33:22,529 --> 00:33:23,693
so I made the leap

480
00:33:23,728 --> 00:33:27,169
and I schooled him at home
for a while.

481
00:33:27,204 --> 00:33:29,435
We'd do some schoolwork
for a while.

482
00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:31,734
Usually
it would finish at lunchtime.

483
00:33:31,769 --> 00:33:34,143
And we would do cool things
together

484
00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:37,443
like go explore the forest
and identify plants,

485
00:33:37,478 --> 00:33:40,314
instead of just always sitting
at your desk.

486
00:33:40,349 --> 00:33:42,250
[Michelle] If you're never
given free rein

487
00:33:42,285 --> 00:33:44,087
to have little adventures
as a kid,

488
00:33:44,122 --> 00:33:46,518
you never really learn
who you are,

489
00:33:46,553 --> 00:33:48,355
you don't learn what
your strengths

490
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:49,256
or your weaknesses are,

491
00:33:49,291 --> 00:33:53,195
and you never learn
that you're capable.

492
00:33:53,230 --> 00:33:56,759
[Marc] She wanted me to discover
what I wanted to do

493
00:33:56,794 --> 00:33:59,531
rather than pick out
what she thought

494
00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:01,269
I should do with my life.

495
00:34:01,304 --> 00:34:03,568
[Michelle] We may not have had
two cents to rub together,

496
00:34:03,603 --> 00:34:04,833
but we always had books

497
00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:07,638
and Marc-André
was a voracious reader.

498
00:34:08,806 --> 00:34:12,280
He was really captured
by adventure,

499
00:34:12,315 --> 00:34:15,085
so we had a house
full of those kind of books.

500
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,581
And the more interest
he showed in them,

501
00:34:16,616 --> 00:34:17,846
the more books
I provided for him.

502
00:34:17,881 --> 00:34:20,453
I must have been,
like, eight years old.

503
00:34:20,488 --> 00:34:22,686
It was this big, awesome
picture book

504
00:34:22,721 --> 00:34:25,755
with stories
from all these expeditions.

505
00:34:27,561 --> 00:34:28,857
And the ones about mountains

506
00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:31,167
always really captured
my attention.

507
00:34:31,202 --> 00:34:32,564
[wind whistles]

508
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,765
Looking at pictures
of big snowy peaks,

509
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,801
guys with ice axes
trying to climb these things,

510
00:34:38,836 --> 00:34:40,506
I don't know,
it seemed really...

511
00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:42,641
brave.

512
00:34:42,677 --> 00:34:47,612
I was so inspired by all
of these climbers of the past

513
00:34:47,647 --> 00:34:50,582
and I wanted to be a part of it.

514
00:34:50,617 --> 00:34:53,618
Like, carrying on the tradition
or something.

515
00:34:57,294 --> 00:34:59,822
At first, it was
just jeans, running shoes,

516
00:34:59,857 --> 00:35:02,198
a few granola bars
in the pocket.

517
00:35:02,233 --> 00:35:06,268
Always off trail,
never had a rope or anything.

518
00:35:07,436 --> 00:35:09,238
[Michelle] At times,
I was concerned

519
00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:11,438
something could happen
to him out there,

520
00:35:11,473 --> 00:35:13,605
but he had a great sense
of direction,

521
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,774
and he was very confident
when he was out and about.

522
00:35:17,809 --> 00:35:20,183
[Marc] After, like,
a couple of years

523
00:35:20,218 --> 00:35:21,679
of scrambling around by myself,

524
00:35:21,714 --> 00:35:25,683
it just naturally progressed
to technical climbing.

525
00:35:25,718 --> 00:35:28,488
When I'm in the mountains
on a big adventure,

526
00:35:28,523 --> 00:35:30,556
life is so incredibly simple.

527
00:35:31,823 --> 00:35:33,526
I'm, like, totally focused.

528
00:35:33,561 --> 00:35:36,331
I don't feel
that squirrel-brained,

529
00:35:36,366 --> 00:35:38,234
twitchy sort of stuff.

530
00:35:39,798 --> 00:35:44,900
I have the feeling of clarity
and calmness and control.

531
00:35:46,442 --> 00:35:48,541
The whole climbing part
of my life,

532
00:35:48,576 --> 00:35:50,708
everything
was falling into place.

533
00:35:50,743 --> 00:35:54,250
But then, like, I went back
to school for high school.

534
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:57,352
[Michelle] He eventually
had to go back

535
00:35:57,387 --> 00:35:59,486
to the standard curriculum
at school.

536
00:35:59,521 --> 00:36:02,357
I think to him it was
like a form of incarceration.

537
00:36:02,392 --> 00:36:03,325
Help me!

538
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,426
[Michelle] He was never looking
for trouble,

539
00:36:05,461 --> 00:36:08,594
but he certainly
seemed to find it.

540
00:36:08,629 --> 00:36:10,398
Firecrackers explode!

541
00:36:10,433 --> 00:36:11,828
[yelps]

542
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:15,700
[laughs]

543
00:36:15,735 --> 00:36:18,538
-[firecracker explodes]
-[laughs]

544
00:36:21,741 --> 00:36:23,444
[grunts]

545
00:36:23,479 --> 00:36:25,875
[Michelle] It was clear
he was never going to get

546
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:28,515
a standard nine-to-five job
or life.

547
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:30,781
He was never wired that way.

548
00:36:30,816 --> 00:36:33,487
Hi, I'm Marc-André
Joseph Leclerc.

549
00:36:33,522 --> 00:36:35,390
You might have heard of me.

550
00:36:35,425 --> 00:36:38,360
I am doing some of
the biggest walls in the world.

551
00:36:38,395 --> 00:36:40,494
[Michelle]
When he graduated at 16,

552
00:36:40,529 --> 00:36:42,925
he was doing drywall,
making some money.

553
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,270
He didn't have a real clear
purpose or plan at that point.

554
00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:50,768
I told him, "If you want
to do this climbing thing,

555
00:36:50,803 --> 00:36:53,474
what are you waiting for?"

556
00:36:53,509 --> 00:36:57,742
And off he went. Marc-André
found freedom to be himself.

557
00:36:57,777 --> 00:37:01,977
He's going to go
as far as he can take it.

558
00:37:03,552 --> 00:37:06,817
-We got it!
-Yeah, yeah.

559
00:37:06,852 --> 00:37:08,423
Can you just do
a kind of blank...?

560
00:37:08,458 --> 00:37:09,589
I'm gonna look like an idiot.

561
00:37:09,624 --> 00:37:10,722
Smile.

562
00:37:10,757 --> 00:37:12,889
[laughter]

563
00:37:12,924 --> 00:37:16,629
[Peter]<i> Marc's plan</i>
<i>to become a full-time climber</i>

564
00:37:16,664 --> 00:37:19,797
<i>certainly seemed</i>
<i>to be working out.</i>

565
00:37:19,832 --> 00:37:23,966
<i>He'd recently landed</i>
<i>his first sponsorship.</i>

566
00:37:24,001 --> 00:37:27,574
<i>And here we were making a film</i>
<i>about him.</i>

567
00:37:27,609 --> 00:37:29,675
-[Peter] Serious.
-Really serious?

568
00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:31,710
[Peter] Really serious,
like your passport.

569
00:37:31,745 --> 00:37:32,911
[laughter]

570
00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:37,353
[Peter]<i> But Marc had</i>
<i>little patience for posing.</i>

571
00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:40,554
<i>And he was getting restless.</i>

572
00:37:40,589 --> 00:37:42,556
<i>As we were planning</i>
<i>the next shoot,</i>

573
00:37:42,591 --> 00:37:45,493
<i>Marc just suddenly</i>
<i>dropped off the radar</i>

574
00:37:47,629 --> 00:37:49,794
<i>to who knows where.</i>

575
00:37:51,501 --> 00:37:53,633
[phone rings]

576
00:37:53,668 --> 00:37:57,406
<i>We'd even bought him a phone</i>
<i>to keep in contact...</i>

577
00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,441
-[voicemail]<i> I'm sorry.</i>
<i>-...but he wasn't picking up.</i>

578
00:37:59,476 --> 00:38:01,377
[voicemail]<i> The person</i>
<i>you called has a voicemail box</i>

579
00:38:01,412 --> 00:38:02,311
<i>that has not been set up.</i>

580
00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:05,579
[Peter] It's just
a frustrating situation.

581
00:38:05,614 --> 00:38:06,646
[man on speaker]
<i>You've got Marc</i>

582
00:38:06,681 --> 00:38:07,680
<i>somewhere in the backwoods.</i>

583
00:38:07,715 --> 00:38:08,780
[Peter] He just disappears

584
00:38:08,815 --> 00:38:10,584
and doesn't call us
for months on end,

585
00:38:10,619 --> 00:38:13,048
having all of us waiting
and on hold.

586
00:38:13,083 --> 00:38:15,622
[man]<i> My bags are packed.</i>
<i>Everyone's bags are packed.</i>

587
00:38:15,657 --> 00:38:18,526
If we don't hear from Marc,
we might not do the shoot.

588
00:38:18,561 --> 00:38:19,627
[Peter]<i> We started seeing him</i>

589
00:38:19,662 --> 00:38:22,299
<i>in other climbers'</i>
<i>social media posts.</i>

590
00:38:23,698 --> 00:38:27,601
It's day six on the wall
and day five of the storm.

591
00:38:27,636 --> 00:38:29,438
[Peter]<i> Brette was posting</i>
<i>these videos.</i>

592
00:38:29,473 --> 00:38:30,868
[Brette]
What are you doing, Marc?

593
00:38:30,903 --> 00:38:33,508
I'll just get a T-slot
my for skis

594
00:38:33,543 --> 00:38:35,840
so I can lower Brette
over this cliff.

595
00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:37,842
[Brette] Oh, man.

596
00:38:37,877 --> 00:38:41,384
[Peter]<i> We saw they'd gone all</i>
<i>the way out to Baffin Island.</i>

597
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:44,816
-[Brette] This is so awesome.
-[Marc] Whoo!

598
00:38:44,851 --> 00:38:47,489
[Peter]
<i>Then Marc was in Scotland</i>

599
00:38:47,524 --> 00:38:49,623
<i>where he knocked off</i>
<i>a string of solos</i>

600
00:38:49,658 --> 00:38:51,790
<i>like they were nine holes</i>
<i>of golf.</i>

601
00:38:51,825 --> 00:38:54,089
[man] All righty.
All righty, then.

602
00:38:59,668 --> 00:39:01,371
[Marc yells]

603
00:39:07,808 --> 00:39:10,545
[Alex] At one point,
I was climbing in South America,

604
00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:12,844
we could see
this tiny, tiny speck

605
00:39:12,879 --> 00:39:14,615
on this 4,000-foot wall.

606
00:39:14,650 --> 00:39:17,915
We could look over and be like,
"That is Marc-André, by himself,

607
00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:19,950
on this fricking journey
to the gods."

608
00:39:19,985 --> 00:39:21,050
I was like, "This is messed up.

609
00:39:21,085 --> 00:39:23,393
I cannot believe
he's soloing that."

610
00:39:25,595 --> 00:39:28,794
[Peter]<i> Finally, we heard Marc</i>
<i>was back in Canada,</i>

611
00:39:28,829 --> 00:39:31,731
<i>climbing in the remote</i>
<i>Ghost Wilderness.</i>

612
00:39:32,833 --> 00:39:34,404
<i>In an act of desperation,</i>

613
00:39:34,439 --> 00:39:36,131
<i>I called a filmmaker</i>
<i>from the area</i>

614
00:39:36,166 --> 00:39:40,476
<i>to go into the backcountry</i>
<i>and track Marc down.</i>

615
00:39:56,890 --> 00:39:58,123
[Peter]<i> He shows up,</i>

616
00:39:58,158 --> 00:40:02,091
<i>and Marc is out there</i>
<i>with Brette and a friend,</i>

617
00:40:02,126 --> 00:40:05,732
<i>and they're putting up</i>
<i>hard first ascents</i>

618
00:40:05,767 --> 00:40:07,932
<i>on these huge walls,</i>

619
00:40:09,705 --> 00:40:12,508
<i>having the time of their lives.</i>

620
00:40:13,038 --> 00:40:14,411
[Marc grunts]

621
00:40:15,073 --> 00:40:16,875
Nice, Brette.

622
00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:21,649
[grunts]

623
00:40:24,247 --> 00:40:25,686
Falling!

624
00:40:26,524 --> 00:40:27,423
Whoo!

625
00:40:27,459 --> 00:40:29,756
[Brette] Hey, Marco,
how is it down there?

626
00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:31,989
It's great.

627
00:40:34,026 --> 00:40:35,124
[Brette] Here we go.

628
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:36,631
[Marc laughs]

629
00:40:39,504 --> 00:40:40,336
[Brette] I think it's so cool

630
00:40:40,372 --> 00:40:43,231
that you're making
a movie about Marc.

631
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:47,675
But honestly,
he doesn't care about movies.

632
00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:50,876
He's not gonna put
the time and energy

633
00:40:50,911 --> 00:40:55,045
into making his own climb
significant to the world.

634
00:40:56,686 --> 00:40:59,082
He's out climbing,
he's too busy climbing.

635
00:41:03,594 --> 00:41:06,562
Pretty incredible, the weather.

636
00:41:06,597 --> 00:41:11,226
[Nick] He's different than any
climber we've ever dealt with.

637
00:41:11,261 --> 00:41:14,636
He doesn't share
any information with us.

638
00:41:14,671 --> 00:41:19,905
It's frustrating, but
at the same, it's pretty noble.

639
00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:24,547
Marc just kind of follows his
own path. He's a free spirit.

640
00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:27,077
And that can be difficult
to plan around.

641
00:41:27,112 --> 00:41:30,586
Kind of makes him lovable
in this weird way, you know?

642
00:41:30,621 --> 00:41:33,721
He doesn't give a fuck.

643
00:41:33,756 --> 00:41:36,856
[Peter]<i> This whole time,</i>
<i>chasing Marc around,</i>

644
00:41:36,891 --> 00:41:41,795
<i>it was clear he was building up</i>
<i>to something big.</i>

645
00:41:41,830 --> 00:41:45,062
<i>But we had no idea</i>
<i>what it would be.</i>

646
00:41:46,098 --> 00:41:48,505
<i>Then the news broke.</i>

647
00:41:50,201 --> 00:41:52,971
<i>He had made the first-ever solo</i>

648
00:41:53,006 --> 00:41:56,711
<i>of the Emperor Face</i>
<i>on Mount Robson.</i>

649
00:41:56,746 --> 00:42:00,110
<i>And it sent shockwaves</i>
<i>through the climbing world.</i>

650
00:42:00,145 --> 00:42:02,849
[man] When I heard that Marc
had soloed the Emperor Face,

651
00:42:02,884 --> 00:42:05,786
it was one of those like,
"Holy shit!

652
00:42:05,821 --> 00:42:08,118
Marc soloed the Emperor Face."

653
00:42:08,153 --> 00:42:09,922
That is absolutely outstanding

654
00:42:09,957 --> 00:42:11,990
and probably
the greatest solo ascent

655
00:42:12,025 --> 00:42:15,532
of anything that's been done
in North America.

656
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,736
[Barry] Robson is the king.

657
00:42:21,771 --> 00:42:25,069
It's the highest mountain
in the Canadian Rockies.

658
00:42:27,007 --> 00:42:30,305
It's like three El Caps.

659
00:42:30,340 --> 00:42:34,012
But Robson is not Yosemite.
[laughs]

660
00:42:34,047 --> 00:42:39,655
It's got glaciation, it's got
crevasses, it's got avalanche.

661
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:44,627
You're climbing rock, ice
and snow all at the same time.

662
00:42:44,662 --> 00:42:47,993
It's a legendary,
mythical objective,

663
00:42:48,028 --> 00:42:49,830
even with a rope.

664
00:42:52,703 --> 00:42:55,264
[Peter]<i> I was frustrated</i>
<i>that Marc</i>

665
00:42:55,299 --> 00:42:57,365
<i>had made this historic ascent</i>

666
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,808
<i>and he hadn't even</i>
<i>let us in on his plan.</i>

667
00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:07,243
<i>Eventually, we reached Marc</i>
<i>and asked him why.</i>

668
00:43:07,278 --> 00:43:09,685
[Marc]<i> When you guys approached</i>
<i>me about doing a film,</i>

669
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,346
<i>it seemed like</i>
<i>a cool experience,</i>

670
00:43:11,381 --> 00:43:13,216
<i>but I've never let you guys</i>

671
00:43:13,251 --> 00:43:15,922
<i>come and shoot</i>
<i>one of my real solos.</i>

672
00:43:15,957 --> 00:43:17,056
[Peter]<i> Why not?</i>

673
00:43:17,092 --> 00:43:19,387
[Marc]<i> Because it wouldn't be</i>
<i>a solo to me</i>

674
00:43:19,422 --> 00:43:21,125
<i>if somebody was there.</i>

675
00:43:22,326 --> 00:43:26,999
Yeah, I mean,
I guess that's true.

676
00:43:27,034 --> 00:43:29,837
[Marc]<i> It's just a completely</i>
<i>different experience</i>

677
00:43:29,872 --> 00:43:31,135
<i>if somebody comes with you.</i>

678
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:34,710
<i>Yeah, even if</i>
<i>they don't help you.</i>

679
00:43:34,745 --> 00:43:36,976
<i>It just wouldn't</i>
<i>even be remotely close</i>

680
00:43:37,011 --> 00:43:39,407
<i>to the adventure</i>
<i>that I was looking for.</i>

681
00:43:39,442 --> 00:43:40,508
<i>The only way I was interested</i>

682
00:43:40,543 --> 00:43:42,784
<i>was actually doing it</i>
<i>fully by myself.</i>

683
00:43:42,819 --> 00:43:47,283
<i>And if that happened,</i>
<i>I'd be OK to go back and film.</i>

684
00:43:47,318 --> 00:43:50,253
<i>I had this really</i>
<i>awesome experience.</i>

685
00:43:50,288 --> 00:43:53,795
<i>Now, I'm actually ready</i>
<i>to share it with people.</i>

686
00:43:56,393 --> 00:44:02,298
[Peter]<i> So Marc invited us back</i>
<i>up to film on Mount Robson</i>

687
00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:08,678
<i>so we could see first-hand</i>
<i>his approach to solo alpinism.</i>

688
00:44:13,113 --> 00:44:15,949
[Marc] For me,
the very best climbs

689
00:44:15,984 --> 00:44:19,216
are when you can walk up
to a mountain with nothing

690
00:44:19,251 --> 00:44:23,022
except for your ability
to climb, and that's it.

691
00:44:27,259 --> 00:44:33,032
Being by yourself out there,
immersed in your environment,

692
00:44:33,067 --> 00:44:36,068
tuning in to the rustle
of the leaves...

693
00:44:36,103 --> 00:44:37,300
[wind blows]

694
00:44:37,335 --> 00:44:40,105
...the sound of the wind
across the ridge,

695
00:44:42,043 --> 00:44:45,110
the aura that the mountain has.

696
00:44:47,378 --> 00:44:49,719
[Peter]
<i>On his big mountain solos,</i>

697
00:44:49,754 --> 00:44:53,250
<i>Marc follows</i>
<i>a simple set of rules.</i>

698
00:44:53,285 --> 00:44:56,121
<i>He carries</i>
<i>no communication device</i>

699
00:44:56,156 --> 00:45:00,697
<i>that could be used as a</i>
<i>lifeline if things go wrong.</i>

700
00:45:02,327 --> 00:45:04,294
<i>And he climbs on sight,</i>

701
00:45:04,329 --> 00:45:07,363
<i>meaning he's never been</i>
<i>on the mountain before,</i>

702
00:45:07,398 --> 00:45:10,135
<i>never rehearsed the route.</i>

703
00:45:11,468 --> 00:45:14,909
<i>He has to figure it out</i>
<i>on the fly.</i>

704
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,444
[Barry] The gold standard of
alpinism is the on-sight solo.

705
00:45:22,479 --> 00:45:28,087
A climber approaches a mountain
without any prior knowledge

706
00:45:28,122 --> 00:45:31,959
and just climbs it. [laughs]

707
00:45:34,964 --> 00:45:37,525
But it's only for
the very best climbers

708
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,065
on their very best days.

709
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,902
You know,
it's such a deadly game.

710
00:45:43,170 --> 00:45:46,875
[Marc] The goal is
to climb as safely as possible.

711
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:49,405
But when you step
into the mountains,

712
00:45:51,145 --> 00:45:53,816
and there's stuff
that's beyond your control.

713
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,282
You control what you're doing,

714
00:45:58,317 --> 00:46:00,482
but you can't control
what the mountain's doing,

715
00:46:00,517 --> 00:46:04,057
and that's by far
the biggest danger in my mind.

716
00:46:04,092 --> 00:46:05,861
The mountains are alive
all around you

717
00:46:05,896 --> 00:46:07,896
and you're kind of
at their mercy.

718
00:46:09,262 --> 00:46:12,395
You have to think
about avalanches,

719
00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:15,871
seracs that can collapse
at any time.

720
00:46:15,906 --> 00:46:18,038
You have to learn
to read the signals

721
00:46:18,073 --> 00:46:20,436
that the mountains
are sending you.

722
00:46:21,912 --> 00:46:24,440
The conditions of the snow,
the ice,

723
00:46:24,475 --> 00:46:26,981
what time of day is it
gonna get sun,

724
00:46:27,016 --> 00:46:31,084
what the weather's gonna do.
It's like a game of chess.

725
00:46:32,483 --> 00:46:34,318
You have this ultimate goal,

726
00:46:34,353 --> 00:46:38,124
but then unpredictable things
are going to happen.

727
00:46:46,398 --> 00:46:49,938
I think that interaction
with the environment,

728
00:46:49,973 --> 00:46:51,335
with the mountain,

729
00:46:51,370 --> 00:46:52,534
is, like, a huge part

730
00:46:52,569 --> 00:46:56,010
of what makes alpine climbing
so interesting.

731
00:46:57,607 --> 00:47:01,279
And if you're smart and you,
like, make the right moves,

732
00:47:01,314 --> 00:47:05,019
you can, sometimes
against the odds,

733
00:47:05,054 --> 00:47:07,285
pull off a great climb.

734
00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:10,024
[wind blows]

735
00:47:16,901 --> 00:47:18,263
One of the coolest feelings

736
00:47:18,298 --> 00:47:23,103
that a human can experience
is, like, to feel so small

737
00:47:23,138 --> 00:47:25,402
in a world that's so big.

738
00:47:40,452 --> 00:47:44,091
[Barry] Moving over the mountain
unencumbered

739
00:47:44,126 --> 00:47:46,929
is about as close as
you're gonna come as a climber

740
00:47:46,964 --> 00:47:51,230
to sprouting wings
and being totally free.

741
00:47:54,466 --> 00:47:58,908
Absolutely awake,
absolutely alive.

742
00:47:58,943 --> 00:48:02,912
Receiving any kind of impulse
that's coming in

743
00:48:02,947 --> 00:48:06,014
and reacting to it
almost instinctively.

744
00:48:08,084 --> 00:48:10,051
It's a great dance.

745
00:48:31,976 --> 00:48:33,404
[Jim] Marc is doing things

746
00:48:33,439 --> 00:48:36,407
that people thought
could never be done.

747
00:48:36,442 --> 00:48:39,212
He's redefining what's possible.

748
00:48:39,247 --> 00:48:41,577
This is the evolution
of alpinism,

749
00:48:41,612 --> 00:48:43,612
and it's happening right now
in our backyard,

750
00:48:43,647 --> 00:48:46,186
and it's happening
with that young guy.

751
00:48:54,130 --> 00:48:57,032
[wind whistles]

752
00:48:57,067 --> 00:49:01,564
But I am definitely concerned
for Marc-André

753
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,533
and anyone else pushing
the limit

754
00:49:03,568 --> 00:49:06,140
of what's been accomplished
soloing.

755
00:49:06,175 --> 00:49:11,178
The place he is in
is such a special, finite place,

756
00:49:11,213 --> 00:49:14,478
and such
an incredibly risky place.

757
00:49:14,513 --> 00:49:18,284
Marc-André is playing with
a pretty heavy deck right now.

758
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:23,586
He is walking relatively close
to the edge in big environments.

759
00:49:23,621 --> 00:49:26,688
I think he can do a fair amount
of that and get away with it,

760
00:49:26,723 --> 00:49:28,624
but sooner or later,

761
00:49:29,528 --> 00:49:30,661
it's gonna bite him.

762
00:49:30,696 --> 00:49:34,564
He is gaining recognition
because of his solo climbing,

763
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:36,764
and all of this is wonderful
for him,

764
00:49:36,799 --> 00:49:38,634
and it's exciting to hear about,

765
00:49:38,669 --> 00:49:41,175
and read about and watch.

766
00:49:42,805 --> 00:49:46,774
But... I mean,
maybe it's just an age thing,

767
00:49:46,809 --> 00:49:49,678
but I find it
a little bit scary.

768
00:49:49,713 --> 00:49:52,417
I just... You know,
I just hope he's careful.

769
00:49:52,452 --> 00:49:57,389
He's really comfortable
in mountainous terrain.

770
00:49:57,424 --> 00:50:02,130
Sometimes I wonder if he's just
almost too comfortable.

771
00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:06,332
One could say that
it's crazy and irresponsible

772
00:50:06,367 --> 00:50:11,634
to place yourself in that kind
of danger for what?

773
00:50:11,669 --> 00:50:13,438
Kicks, glory?

774
00:50:13,473 --> 00:50:16,408
I think that free soloing is a
very emotionally charged subject

775
00:50:16,443 --> 00:50:18,542
and so it draws strong reactions
from everybody.

776
00:50:18,577 --> 00:50:21,215
If you fall and die, everybody
thinks you're an idiot,

777
00:50:21,250 --> 00:50:24,548
you're a risk-taker, daredevil,
like, "What an idiot."

778
00:50:24,583 --> 00:50:27,254
If you succeed, everyone
celebrates you as a big hero.

779
00:50:27,289 --> 00:50:29,553
But the reality is you're
the same person either way.

780
00:50:33,229 --> 00:50:35,625
[Marc] People are always
freaking out about soloing,

781
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:38,628
"It's such an unacceptable risk.
People shouldn't be doing this.

782
00:50:38,663 --> 00:50:41,400
What kind of example
does this set?"

783
00:50:41,435 --> 00:50:43,633
I mean, I know it's dangerous.

784
00:50:43,668 --> 00:50:45,503
I'm not, like, deluding myself

785
00:50:45,538 --> 00:50:47,802
that it's not dangerous
to go soloing,

786
00:50:47,837 --> 00:50:49,705
but I probably just have

787
00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:53,379
a different view
of everything, I guess.

788
00:50:53,414 --> 00:50:58,087
You know, like, to me, it's not
really an unacceptable risk.

789
00:50:58,122 --> 00:51:02,685
I'm still so young. There are
so many things I wanna do.

790
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,622
I've really had to think
about it within our own lives,

791
00:51:05,657 --> 00:51:07,756
because we do put ourselves
in situations

792
00:51:07,791 --> 00:51:10,099
that anything could happen.

793
00:51:10,134 --> 00:51:12,662
Like, an avalanche
could take you out randomly.

794
00:51:12,697 --> 00:51:14,664
The more times you put
yourself in that situation,

795
00:51:14,699 --> 00:51:17,106
the more likely
it's gonna happen.

796
00:51:17,141 --> 00:51:19,801
And yeah,
sometimes it's concerning

797
00:51:19,836 --> 00:51:23,706
the amount
of soloing he wants to do.

798
00:51:23,741 --> 00:51:28,612
He has an insatiable desire
to do more at an extreme level.

799
00:51:29,582 --> 00:51:33,320
I worry for him, of course.

800
00:51:44,663 --> 00:51:47,202
[Peter]<i> A few months</i>
<i>after Robson,</i>

801
00:51:47,237 --> 00:51:49,534
<i>Marc set off for Patagonia</i>

802
00:51:49,569 --> 00:51:53,802
<i>at the far southern tip</i>
<i>of South America.</i>

803
00:51:53,837 --> 00:51:57,839
<i>His objective was a climb</i>
<i>that had never been attempted.</i>

804
00:51:57,874 --> 00:52:01,348
<i>A winter solo ascent</i>
<i>of Torre Egger,</i>

805
00:52:01,383 --> 00:52:05,847
<i>the most difficult peak</i>
<i>in the range.</i>

806
00:52:05,882 --> 00:52:08,322
<i>Patagonia's jagged summits</i>

807
00:52:08,357 --> 00:52:12,161
<i>are a proving ground</i>
<i>for serious alpinists,</i>

808
00:52:12,196 --> 00:52:15,560
<i>who gather each summer</i>
<i>in the village of El Chaltén.</i>

809
00:52:16,926 --> 00:52:18,059
<i>But in the winter,</i>

810
00:52:18,094 --> 00:52:21,896
<i>the mountains are lashed</i>
<i>by vicious storms</i>

811
00:52:21,931 --> 00:52:24,899
<i>and El Chaltén is a ghost town.</i>

812
00:52:30,808 --> 00:52:35,448
[Jon] To go winter climbing
in Patagonia solo,

813
00:52:35,483 --> 00:52:37,582
he's definitely upping the game
by a lot.

814
00:52:37,617 --> 00:52:41,784
Going to Patagonia in the
winter! It's just mindboggling.

815
00:52:41,819 --> 00:52:44,193
[Jon] The weather is horrific.

816
00:52:44,228 --> 00:52:46,591
[Barry] Avalanche hazards
can be extremely high.

817
00:52:46,626 --> 00:52:48,956
[Jon] And trying to solo Torre
Egger on sight.

818
00:52:48,991 --> 00:52:52,399
I mean, Torre Egger
is a coveted peak.

819
00:52:52,434 --> 00:52:56,799
Some people consider it the
hardest peak in the Americas.

820
00:52:56,834 --> 00:52:59,340
[Hevy] People ask me, "Don't you
worry he's not coming back?"

821
00:52:59,375 --> 00:53:01,243
I just shake my head,

822
00:53:01,278 --> 00:53:04,642
"Marc will be coming back.
He's got this sixth sense."

823
00:53:09,550 --> 00:53:13,882
[Peter]<i> Soloing Torre Egger had</i>
<i>long been a dream of Marc's.</i>

824
00:53:13,917 --> 00:53:17,886
<i>So he obviously didn't want</i>
<i>a big film crew.</i>

825
00:53:17,921 --> 00:53:21,824
<i>But this time, he was willing</i>
<i>to bring one cameraman,</i>

826
00:53:21,859 --> 00:53:24,926
<i>his climbing buddy,</i>
<i>Austin Siadak.</i>

827
00:53:24,961 --> 00:53:27,467
I'm gonna basically
just try to keep up,

828
00:53:27,502 --> 00:53:30,371
tag along, and document
as best as I can along the way.

829
00:53:30,406 --> 00:53:33,836
I don't wanna, like,
impose on his experience.

830
00:53:33,871 --> 00:53:37,444
[Peter]<i> Austin would hang</i>
<i>with Marc in town</i>

831
00:53:37,479 --> 00:53:38,512
<i>and shoot some climbing</i>

832
00:53:38,547 --> 00:53:41,217
<i>on the lower sections</i>
<i>of the route.</i>

833
00:53:43,012 --> 00:53:47,289
<i>But for the summit push,</i>
<i>Marc would climb alone</i>

834
00:53:47,324 --> 00:53:48,851
<i>and bring a small camera</i>

835
00:53:48,886 --> 00:53:52,756
<i>to capture what he could</i>
<i>in real time.</i>

836
00:53:52,791 --> 00:53:55,429
Yeah, this is Torre Egger.

837
00:53:57,532 --> 00:54:00,533
I've been thinking
about this climb

838
00:54:00,568 --> 00:54:03,503
for the better part of a year.

839
00:54:03,538 --> 00:54:05,769
If there's ice,
it might be quick

840
00:54:05,804 --> 00:54:09,311
to go straight up this ice gully
under the serac and then...

841
00:54:09,346 --> 00:54:12,809
Torre Egger
is this 1,000-meter rock pillar

842
00:54:12,844 --> 00:54:16,879
rising up out of the glacier
with an ice arête in the middle.

843
00:54:16,914 --> 00:54:20,289
You know,
not always perfect rock

844
00:54:20,324 --> 00:54:23,820
and capped with ice mushrooms.

845
00:54:23,855 --> 00:54:26,295
I could look at it on paper
and be like,

846
00:54:26,330 --> 00:54:31,531
"OK, like, this is totally
mathematically, like, feasible."

847
00:54:31,566 --> 00:54:34,435
But at the same time, it still
seems a little bit out there,

848
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:38,802
like, "Whoa, this is
the next step for me."

849
00:54:38,837 --> 00:54:42,311
I spent the majority
of the last year doing things

850
00:54:42,346 --> 00:54:44,005
that would prepare me
for this climb.

851
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,580
A ton of mixed climbing,
and a ton of ice climbing,

852
00:54:47,615 --> 00:54:49,780
and then the Emperor Face.

853
00:54:49,815 --> 00:54:55,049
It was all sort of preparation
with Egger in mind.

854
00:54:58,824 --> 00:55:01,561
Just gonna check
weather models.

855
00:55:01,596 --> 00:55:04,729
I check all these models
multiple times a day.

856
00:55:04,764 --> 00:55:08,568
Friday morning, the wind
rolls in, with precip.

857
00:55:10,506 --> 00:55:12,836
When the lines
are close together,

858
00:55:12,871 --> 00:55:14,673
that means a lot of wind.

859
00:55:14,708 --> 00:55:15,971
[wind gusts]

860
00:55:16,006 --> 00:55:18,809
The peaks right now
are just getting nuked.

861
00:55:18,844 --> 00:55:22,813
We have to hang out in town
and wait for a weather window.

862
00:55:24,652 --> 00:55:27,488
Coming down here by yourself
in the winter time...

863
00:55:27,523 --> 00:55:28,951
[speaks Spanish]

864
00:55:28,986 --> 00:55:32,559
...you become immersed
in the El Chaltén life.

865
00:55:34,926 --> 00:55:36,860
Hanging out with the locals.

866
00:55:36,895 --> 00:55:40,369
And they're making you
part of the family.

867
00:55:42,472 --> 00:55:43,671
[speaks Spanish]

868
00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:47,673
Yeah, it's actually like a big
part of the whole experience.

869
00:55:47,708 --> 00:55:51,446
[conversation in Spanish]

870
00:55:56,717 --> 00:55:58,079
[laughs]

871
00:55:59,115 --> 00:56:03,656
[they laugh]

872
00:56:10,929 --> 00:56:13,094
[in Spanish]

873
00:56:19,135 --> 00:56:22,444
[rock music]

874
00:56:51,167 --> 00:56:54,168
[Marc] Just checking
the latest meteogram.

875
00:56:54,203 --> 00:56:57,545
Looks good, like,
Tuesday, Wednesday.

876
00:56:57,580 --> 00:57:00,680
-[Austin] What does that mean?
-Means we're going climbing.

877
00:57:06,721 --> 00:57:09,084
Part of the crux of soloing
in these mountains

878
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,218
is the amount of stuff
that you have to carry.

879
00:57:11,253 --> 00:57:12,824
It's pretty heavy.

880
00:57:12,859 --> 00:57:14,925
Like, when you have
to put everything on your back

881
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,762
and just, like,
solo with the pack on.

882
00:57:16,797 --> 00:57:20,931
This bag, like, ripped open.
I've taped it shut.

883
00:57:20,966 --> 00:57:24,704
It's lost half its insulation.
It just means it's even lighter.

884
00:57:25,674 --> 00:57:27,839
It's even more super light.

885
00:57:29,513 --> 00:57:33,680
[Austin]

886
00:57:33,715 --> 00:57:38,850
Well, I don't wanna sound grim
or fatalistic,

887
00:57:38,885 --> 00:57:41,050
but it's, you know, undeniable

888
00:57:41,085 --> 00:57:43,954
that every time
you go to the mountains,

889
00:57:43,989 --> 00:57:46,627
it could be your last time,

890
00:57:46,662 --> 00:57:50,895
so all these things that
you love you have to appreciate.

891
00:57:54,703 --> 00:57:57,264
Whatever dinner you'd want
to possibly be your last dinner,

892
00:57:57,299 --> 00:58:00,267
you have to eat it.

893
00:58:00,302 --> 00:58:04,205
Cos you're going
to the mountains. [laughs]

894
00:58:06,242 --> 00:58:07,945
Yeah.

895
00:58:10,246 --> 00:58:11,817
[birds sing]

896
00:58:28,165 --> 00:58:30,968
[Reinhold]
The whole game is very simple.

897
00:58:37,647 --> 00:58:40,912
We go somewhere
that we should not go.

898
00:58:43,081 --> 00:58:47,886
Where our own instinct is
telling us, "Do not go there."

899
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:54,860
Many things can happen.

900
00:58:57,194 --> 00:58:59,128
We can fall.

901
00:59:00,197 --> 00:59:03,033
The storm can take me away.

902
00:59:03,068 --> 00:59:05,937
We know that
we could die up there.

903
00:59:11,879 --> 00:59:14,913
But still, we go there.

904
00:59:16,851 --> 00:59:20,919
We try to make real our dreams.

905
00:59:21,889 --> 00:59:23,790
Our visions.

906
00:59:27,092 --> 00:59:30,357
[Marc] I had spent a whole year
imagining this climb,

907
00:59:30,392 --> 00:59:33,734
and I felt
like I had the skills to do it,

908
00:59:33,769 --> 00:59:36,231
and it would require
all of them.

909
00:59:36,266 --> 00:59:39,036
But I don't know
the route whatsoever.

910
00:59:39,071 --> 00:59:44,305
No idea how this is gonna go.
Like, no idea what to expect.

911
00:59:46,210 --> 00:59:49,783
Conditions
are definitely tough right now.

912
00:59:49,818 --> 00:59:50,717
You can see my trail there.

913
00:59:50,753 --> 00:59:53,886
I was literally
digging through a trench,

914
00:59:53,921 --> 00:59:56,691
through chest-deep snow
with wind slab on top,

915
00:59:56,726 --> 01:00:01,729
and I think there could be
a lot of this kind of snow

916
01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:03,698
on the hanging glacier
in the gully.

917
01:00:03,733 --> 01:00:05,359
And not only
is it really hard work,

918
01:00:05,394 --> 01:00:09,363
I think avalanche conditions
could be quite dangerous.

919
01:00:09,398 --> 01:00:13,906
So I'm gonna go over
and see how the rock is

920
01:00:13,941 --> 01:00:16,040
and see if that goes.

921
01:00:17,241 --> 01:00:19,813
I started on really
snowed-up rock,

922
01:00:19,848 --> 01:00:21,815
which took quite a long time.

923
01:00:21,850 --> 01:00:24,147
Well, two pitches of climbing

924
01:00:24,182 --> 01:00:27,656
and it's kind of heinous,
actually.

925
01:00:27,691 --> 01:00:29,053
Here's my tracks.

926
01:00:30,892 --> 01:00:33,123
I have to go tack
along the edge of that serac

927
01:00:33,158 --> 01:00:35,356
and bivvy on top of it.

928
01:00:35,391 --> 01:00:39,899
The climbing was hard and slow.
Conditions were awful.

929
01:00:39,934 --> 01:00:42,165
I think the route goes up there.

930
01:00:46,105 --> 01:00:48,369
I had to keep taking
my gloves off.

931
01:00:48,404 --> 01:00:51,746
My hands were numb
because of the cold.

932
01:00:53,178 --> 01:00:55,277
Almost on top of the glacier.

933
01:00:55,312 --> 01:00:56,883
[exhales]

934
01:00:56,918 --> 01:01:00,183
Definitely challenging so far.

935
01:01:00,218 --> 01:01:02,922
There's my backpack
that I'm hauling up.

936
01:01:02,957 --> 01:01:04,253
Check out my hands.

937
01:01:04,288 --> 01:01:06,090
My fingers were bleeding

938
01:01:06,125 --> 01:01:09,797
and everything
was just kind of gnarly.

939
01:01:09,832 --> 01:01:13,328
Well, here I am at the top
of the hanging glacier

940
01:01:13,363 --> 01:01:16,001
and I'm settled in
for the night.

941
01:01:16,036 --> 01:01:19,070
I originally hoped to be
six pitches higher than this

942
01:01:19,105 --> 01:01:23,107
on the snow arête. Not going
as fast as I wanted to.

943
01:01:30,050 --> 01:01:32,853
You split left
off of that hanging glacier

944
01:01:32,888 --> 01:01:34,921
and that brings you
to the snow arête

945
01:01:34,956 --> 01:01:37,088
in the middle
of the east pillar.

946
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,421
I've come a good ways now.

947
01:01:40,456 --> 01:01:44,260
Here's the snow arête that I
wanted to make it to yesterday,

948
01:01:44,295 --> 01:01:46,394
but, you know,
it just goes how it goes.

949
01:01:46,429 --> 01:01:49,298
There's the upper headwall,
so we'll see.

950
01:01:49,333 --> 01:01:50,805
I might be able to keep going

951
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,774
even if I have to make
one extra bivvy,

952
01:01:52,809 --> 01:01:54,204
one more than planned.

953
01:01:55,405 --> 01:01:57,207
You're switching constantly

954
01:01:57,242 --> 01:01:59,979
between boots, crampons
and rock shoes.

955
01:02:01,180 --> 01:02:03,081
You'll climb an ice pitch

956
01:02:03,116 --> 01:02:07,481
and then all of a sudden, you're
on a rock pillar climbing 5.10.

957
01:02:10,827 --> 01:02:13,421
Or mixed climbing

958
01:02:13,456 --> 01:02:17,161
through some narrow gully
filled with ice.

959
01:02:24,808 --> 01:02:28,238
It's just, like, everything
in the repertoire.

960
01:03:10,084 --> 01:03:12,348
Well, I'm in the upper ramp,

961
01:03:12,383 --> 01:03:14,889
looking down the route.

962
01:03:14,924 --> 01:03:16,121
Whoo!

963
01:04:00,167 --> 01:04:02,101
When you encounter a situation

964
01:04:02,136 --> 01:04:05,236
where you're like,
"OK, this is real.

965
01:04:09,275 --> 01:04:13,046
I can either keep it together
and do this

966
01:04:13,081 --> 01:04:16,214
or I can, like, fall apart
and have a meltdown."

967
01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:21,989
You gotta do one or the other.

968
01:04:31,935 --> 01:04:35,365
And that process
of evaluating the situation,

969
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,138
and then getting it together,
and carrying on,

970
01:04:41,978 --> 01:04:44,308
it's a challenge every time.

971
01:05:03,197 --> 01:05:08,068
Well, persevering,
and things are working out.

972
01:05:08,103 --> 01:05:09,300
Quite the view.

973
01:05:09,335 --> 01:05:12,567
I'm literally in the middle
of the headwall.

974
01:05:12,602 --> 01:05:16,703
I'm stomping out this sick
little platform to sleep on,

975
01:05:16,738 --> 01:05:20,146
the only place I could find
to bivvy, which is super cool.

976
01:05:20,181 --> 01:05:22,313
I'm gonna freeze my ass off
tonight,

977
01:05:22,348 --> 01:05:24,953
that's for sure, but that's OK.

978
01:05:24,988 --> 01:05:28,022
Yesterday, progress was so slow
and difficult

979
01:05:28,057 --> 01:05:29,991
that it was
kind of discouraging,

980
01:05:30,026 --> 01:05:31,685
but now
I'm in a really good position

981
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,160
to go for the summit
tomorrow morning.

982
01:05:34,195 --> 01:05:36,426
I'm only a few pitches away.

983
01:05:36,461 --> 01:05:39,627
So as long as
the weather holds, I'm psyched.

984
01:05:41,301 --> 01:05:43,433
[wind whistles]

985
01:05:52,345 --> 01:05:56,281
Hey, Brette,
this video's for you.

986
01:05:56,316 --> 01:05:59,218
I just wanted to, uh...

987
01:05:59,253 --> 01:06:01,286
let you know
that when I'm out here

988
01:06:01,321 --> 01:06:03,057
in these mountains by myself,

989
01:06:03,092 --> 01:06:05,257
I really miss you.

990
01:06:05,292 --> 01:06:09,756
And I'm thinking about you
a lot,

991
01:06:09,791 --> 01:06:14,761
and there's a part of me that...

992
01:06:14,796 --> 01:06:18,732
wishes I could just quickly rap
to the ground,

993
01:06:18,767 --> 01:06:21,504
and get out of here,
and change my flights,

994
01:06:21,539 --> 01:06:26,410
and come back and see you,
cos I'd love to...

995
01:06:27,644 --> 01:06:31,349
just... yeah, see you.

996
01:06:34,618 --> 01:06:36,552
I love you.

997
01:06:36,587 --> 01:06:38,587
[wind whistles]

998
01:06:44,529 --> 01:06:46,727
I woke up at around five
in the morning,

999
01:06:46,762 --> 01:06:51,765
peeked outside my sleeping bag.
A full snowstorm was starting.

1000
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,471
Now, I just have to pack up
as quick as I can

1001
01:06:54,506 --> 01:06:59,080
and rappel the whole mountain
in blizzard conditions.

1002
01:07:01,678 --> 01:07:03,150
I hope it goes well,

1003
01:07:03,185 --> 01:07:06,549
cos it's a long
and complicated way down.

1004
01:07:10,852 --> 01:07:12,390
Holy shit!

1005
01:07:29,838 --> 01:07:33,675
Well, I'm back in my tent.

1006
01:07:33,710 --> 01:07:38,812
I am sorry to say
that I did not reach the summit.

1007
01:07:38,847 --> 01:07:42,321
But... I survived,

1008
01:07:42,356 --> 01:07:46,490
which I think counts for a lot.

1009
01:07:46,525 --> 01:07:50,164
Kind of a bummer, cos I made it
within four pitches of the top.

1010
01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:53,431
It was still probably one of
my very best solo efforts

1011
01:07:53,466 --> 01:07:55,202
in the mountains,

1012
01:07:55,237 --> 01:07:57,468
just in terms
of sticking with it

1013
01:07:57,503 --> 01:07:59,602
and coming really close, and...

1014
01:07:59,637 --> 01:08:02,803
And, you know I always said...

1015
01:08:02,838 --> 01:08:05,311
Cos I've always dreamed
of trying to solo Egger

1016
01:08:05,346 --> 01:08:07,445
and I always said

1017
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,513
that if you got caught
in bad weather

1018
01:08:09,548 --> 01:08:11,581
near the top of Egger
by yourself,

1019
01:08:11,616 --> 01:08:17,356
that's the ultimate nightmare,
and it actually happened to me,

1020
01:08:17,391 --> 01:08:20,194
and I made it down just fine,
so...

1021
01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:23,857
That's kind of...
That's cool, I guess.

1022
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,534
[Peter]<i> I was relieved to hear</i>

1023
01:08:30,569 --> 01:08:34,142
<i>that Marc had made it</i>
<i>back down.</i>

1024
01:08:34,177 --> 01:08:35,902
[indistinct conversation]

1025
01:08:35,937 --> 01:08:38,542
<i>And after such a close scrape,</i>

1026
01:08:38,577 --> 01:08:41,710
<i>I figured</i>
<i>he would just fly home,</i>

1027
01:08:41,745 --> 01:08:45,582
<i>unsuccessful, but safe.</i>

1028
01:08:45,617 --> 01:08:52,292
Well, it's amazing just feeling
how tired I am from that climb.

1029
01:08:53,889 --> 01:08:58,199
[conversation in Spanish]

1030
01:08:58,234 --> 01:09:02,203
[Peter]
<i>But Marc couldn't let it go.</i>

1031
01:09:02,238 --> 01:09:05,833
<i>He saw another weather window</i>
<i>in the forecast,</i>

1032
01:09:05,868 --> 01:09:08,638
<i>this one even shorter</i>
<i>than the last.</i>

1033
01:09:08,673 --> 01:09:11,542
[Marc] And on Friday,
you have half of a good day,

1034
01:09:11,577 --> 01:09:14,281
and overnight's good.

1035
01:09:14,316 --> 01:09:17,812
[Peter]<i> And he decided</i>
<i>to go for it, again.</i>

1036
01:09:17,847 --> 01:09:21,222
<i>This time,</i>
<i>he was raising the stakes.</i>

1037
01:09:21,257 --> 01:09:22,850
[Marc] Because I already
know the route,

1038
01:09:22,885 --> 01:09:24,819
I decided I could do
the route in a day

1039
01:09:24,854 --> 01:09:27,294
without carrying
any bivvy equipment.

1040
01:09:28,363 --> 01:09:29,659
But I won't have the option

1041
01:09:29,694 --> 01:09:31,661
of sleeping up there
on the mountain.

1042
01:09:31,696 --> 01:09:33,927
I have to go really light
and move fast

1043
01:09:33,962 --> 01:09:35,566
in order to get it done.

1044
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:39,339
Here we go.

1045
01:09:41,574 --> 01:09:43,475
[Peter]<i> For his second attempt,</i>

1046
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:45,906
<i>Marc would carry</i>
<i>just a small pack</i>

1047
01:09:45,941 --> 01:09:49,877
<i>with no sleeping bag,</i>
<i>no extra food.</i>

1048
01:09:49,912 --> 01:09:53,881
<i>Just the basic tools</i>
<i>to climb light and fast.</i>

1049
01:09:56,688 --> 01:09:58,853
<i>Starting the climb that night,</i>

1050
01:09:58,888 --> 01:10:03,297
<i>he hoped he could get</i>
<i>to the summit and back down</i>

1051
01:10:03,332 --> 01:10:06,201
<i>before the next storm</i>
<i>crashed in.</i>

1052
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,470
[Austin] Good luck, Marc!

1053
01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:33,261
[Marc] Well,
it's 5:45 in the morning

1054
01:10:33,296 --> 01:10:35,890
and I'm back
at my first bivvy site

1055
01:10:35,925 --> 01:10:37,397
on top of the hanging glacier.

1056
01:10:37,432 --> 01:10:39,828
It's only taken me
a couple of hours to get here.

1057
01:10:40,897 --> 01:10:43,568
So, yeah, off to a good start.

1058
01:10:51,611 --> 01:10:54,007
I'm just going for it,

1059
01:10:54,042 --> 01:10:59,254
just this tiny little adventure
on this huge mountain.

1060
01:11:02,523 --> 01:11:04,952
Well, the sun's rising.

1061
01:11:04,987 --> 01:11:08,725
Check out
how incredible this is.

1062
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,431
I'm more than halfway
up the route already.

1063
01:11:20,409 --> 01:11:22,343
Well, I'm in the upper ramp.

1064
01:11:26,976 --> 01:11:28,679
Things are working out.

1065
01:11:40,825 --> 01:11:43,562
I'm on the summit of Egger!

1066
01:11:43,597 --> 01:11:45,300
Super psyched!

1067
01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:47,566
Whoo!

1068
01:11:47,601 --> 01:11:50,503
Yeah, look at this!

1069
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,605
Holy smokes!

1070
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,871
To solo Torre Egger

1071
01:11:55,906 --> 01:11:58,005
seemed like
the perfect combination

1072
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,579
of everything
I'd learned how to do.

1073
01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:09,885
It's almost like my whole life
leading me to a certain place.

1074
01:12:22,163 --> 01:12:23,602
[Austin] Nice work, dude.

1075
01:12:23,637 --> 01:12:26,671
[exhales] Yo.

1076
01:12:26,706 --> 01:12:29,102
-How's it going, dude?
-[Austin] How do you feel?

1077
01:12:29,137 --> 01:12:30,103
[laughs]

1078
01:12:30,138 --> 01:12:32,908
-[Austin] Perfect.
-Yeah, things are awesome.

1079
01:12:32,943 --> 01:12:35,042
No alpine ascent
is truly complete

1080
01:12:35,077 --> 01:12:37,451
until the beers go clink.

1081
01:12:37,486 --> 01:12:39,882
-Cheers.
-Cheers, man.

1082
01:12:42,183 --> 01:12:44,590
[in Spanish]

1083
01:12:46,924 --> 01:12:49,694
<i>-Sí.</i>
<i>-Sí.</i>

1084
01:12:55,636 --> 01:12:56,932
[laughs]

1085
01:13:03,072 --> 01:13:06,480
[conversation in Spanish]

1086
01:13:07,945 --> 01:13:10,077
[Austin] Psyched to be going
back to States?

1087
01:13:10,112 --> 01:13:12,552
Yeah, I'm super stoked
to see Brette

1088
01:13:12,587 --> 01:13:16,457
and eventually see the family
back up in Canada.

1089
01:13:16,492 --> 01:13:17,986
There's the taxi.

1090
01:13:18,021 --> 01:13:21,594
I have to negotiate,
cos I don't have pesos. [laughs]

1091
01:13:38,580 --> 01:13:41,713
[Brette] When Marc comes out
of the mountains,

1092
01:13:41,748 --> 01:13:44,716
he has this,
like, radiating energy.

1093
01:13:44,751 --> 01:13:48,687
He's had some sort
of extreme experience

1094
01:13:48,722 --> 01:13:53,527
that had moved him deeper
than anything else could have.

1095
01:13:53,562 --> 01:13:56,728
[Marc] When you're in the
mountains with a mission,

1096
01:13:56,763 --> 01:13:59,566
it's like all
the superficialities of life

1097
01:13:59,601 --> 01:14:00,767
just sort of evaporate,

1098
01:14:00,802 --> 01:14:04,197
and you can often find yourself
in a deeper state of mind,

1099
01:14:04,232 --> 01:14:07,541
and that can stick with you
for a while after a big climb.

1100
01:14:07,576 --> 01:14:08,839
[indistinct conversation]

1101
01:14:08,874 --> 01:14:12,106
You appreciate everything
so much

1102
01:14:12,141 --> 01:14:14,977
that you take for granted
most of the time.

1103
01:14:18,686 --> 01:14:20,983
It's kind of funny.

1104
01:14:21,018 --> 01:14:23,755
The actual achievement
doesn't really change your life

1105
01:14:23,790 --> 01:14:26,857
like you think it might,
when you're building up to it,

1106
01:14:26,892 --> 01:14:29,222
but what you're left with
is the journey

1107
01:14:29,257 --> 01:14:30,993
that got you to that point

1108
01:14:31,028 --> 01:14:33,732
and if you have this big journey

1109
01:14:33,767 --> 01:14:35,261
where you had
to figure a lot of stuff out,

1110
01:14:35,296 --> 01:14:38,671
and you had to plan,
and it was more immersive,

1111
01:14:38,706 --> 01:14:40,838
and then you were
somewhere really beautiful

1112
01:14:40,873 --> 01:14:43,973
for a long time, and then
had to work really hard,

1113
01:14:44,008 --> 01:14:46,646
and overcome
some kind of mental barrier,

1114
01:14:46,681 --> 01:14:49,880
you're left with so much more
of a story

1115
01:14:49,915 --> 01:14:52,982
or, like, a memory
and an experience.

1116
01:14:53,017 --> 01:14:56,018
And that's what I find
is the most important.

1117
01:15:01,564 --> 01:15:05,126
[Peter]<i> For two years</i>
<i>filming Marc's climbs,</i>

1118
01:15:05,161 --> 01:15:08,635
<i>it was like trying to capture</i>
<i>lightning in a bottle.</i>

1119
01:15:13,103 --> 01:15:16,643
<i>Now, it was time</i>
<i>to assemble the film</i>

1120
01:15:16,678 --> 01:15:20,779
<i>and release Marc</i>
<i>back into the wild.</i>

1121
01:15:20,814 --> 01:15:24,684
<i>He still had so many</i>
<i>mountains to climb.</i>

1122
01:15:26,248 --> 01:15:28,721
OK, Brette, I'm secure!

1123
01:15:31,121 --> 01:15:32,387
Hey, dude.

1124
01:15:32,423 --> 01:15:37,829
[Peter]<i> And that is where</i>
<i>I thought this story would end.</i>

1125
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:40,196
<i>But while we were editing,</i>

1126
01:15:40,231 --> 01:15:45,298
<i>Marc chased a weather window</i>
<i>up to Juneau, Alaska,</i>

1127
01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:48,906
<i>where he met up with</i>
<i>a strong local climber,</i>

1128
01:15:48,941 --> 01:15:51,337
<i>Ryan Johnson.</i>

1129
01:15:51,372 --> 01:15:53,812
<i>Climbing as a team,</i>
<i>with a rope,</i>

1130
01:15:53,847 --> 01:15:55,275
<i>they made a first ascent</i>

1131
01:15:55,310 --> 01:16:00,148
<i>on the north face</i>
<i>of the Mendenhall Towers.</i>

1132
01:16:00,183 --> 01:16:03,591
<i>At the summit,</i>
<i>there was cell reception.</i>

1133
01:16:03,626 --> 01:16:09,564
<i>So Marc sent text messages</i>
<i>to his mom and to Brette.</i>

1134
01:16:12,096 --> 01:16:15,328
<i>And Ryan sent a video message</i>
<i>to his girlfriend.</i>

1135
01:16:15,363 --> 01:16:17,803
Hey, babe, figured why not
be up here with me?

1136
01:16:17,838 --> 01:16:21,103
-Marc, right there.
-Yeah.

1137
01:16:21,138 --> 01:16:22,368
[Ryan] Pretty amazing up here.

1138
01:16:22,403 --> 01:16:24,007
We've got a long way
to get down,

1139
01:16:24,042 --> 01:16:25,075
so we're gonna get to it.

1140
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:27,978
[Marc] The descent
does not look straightforward.

1141
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:34,248
[Peter]
<i>But by the next morning,</i>

1142
01:16:34,283 --> 01:16:36,591
<i>nobody had heard from them.</i>

1143
01:16:38,793 --> 01:16:43,389
<i>Brette was on a sailboat</i>
<i>off the coast of Tasmania.</i>

1144
01:16:43,424 --> 01:16:48,867
<i>She was the first to realize</i>
<i>they were late to check in.</i>

1145
01:16:48,902 --> 01:16:51,298
<i>She contacted</i>
<i>search and rescue,</i>

1146
01:16:51,333 --> 01:16:53,168
<i>took the next flight out,</i>

1147
01:16:53,203 --> 01:16:56,974
<i>and called us</i>
<i>when she landed in Alaska.</i>

1148
01:16:59,374 --> 01:17:02,650
-[Peter] Fuck!
<i>-Yeah, so I don't know, Pete.</i>

1149
01:17:02,685 --> 01:17:06,082
-I'm so sorry.
<i>-I don't know what to do.</i>

1150
01:17:06,117 --> 01:17:09,085
<i>I don't know</i>
<i>what's gonna happen</i>

1151
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,890
<i>or what would happen if...</i>

1152
01:17:13,696 --> 01:17:16,961
<i>A climber from Squamish</i>
<i>has gone missing in Alaska.</i>

1153
01:17:16,996 --> 01:17:19,931
<i>Marc-André Leclerc</i>
<i>and another climber</i>

1154
01:17:19,966 --> 01:17:21,702
<i>were last seen on March 4th.</i>

1155
01:17:21,737 --> 01:17:24,265
[Peter]<i> We followed Brette</i>
<i>up to Juneau</i>

1156
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:28,709
<i>and met Marc's family at</i>
<i>the search and rescue office.</i>

1157
01:17:31,307 --> 01:17:33,681
<i>Some of Marc's friends</i>
<i>from Squamish</i>

1158
01:17:33,716 --> 01:17:37,113
<i>had come along</i>
<i>to help with the search.</i>

1159
01:17:37,148 --> 01:17:38,818
<i>But a storm had rolled in,</i>

1160
01:17:38,853 --> 01:17:43,185
<i>so nobody could get</i>
<i>a helicopter in there.</i>

1161
01:17:43,220 --> 01:17:49,224
<i>All we could do was wait</i>
<i>for the weather to break</i>

1162
01:17:49,259 --> 01:17:54,834
<i>and hope that somehow,</i>
<i>they were still alive up there.</i>

1163
01:18:02,778 --> 01:18:04,844
<i>After four agonizing days,</i>

1164
01:18:04,879 --> 01:18:07,847
<i>the weather</i>
<i>finally cleared enough</i>

1165
01:18:07,882 --> 01:18:10,146
<i>for search and rescue</i>

1166
01:18:10,181 --> 01:18:14,183
<i>to fly a helicopter</i>
<i>into that zone</i>

1167
01:18:14,218 --> 01:18:17,692
<i>and get visuals</i>
<i>of their descent route.</i>

1168
01:18:19,091 --> 01:18:20,257
<i>With all the new snow,</i>

1169
01:18:20,292 --> 01:18:24,094
<i>conditions were</i>
<i>too dangerous to land there,</i>

1170
01:18:24,129 --> 01:18:27,130
<i>but they spotted a rope.</i>

1171
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:33,367
<i>It was covered</i>
<i>in avalanche debris</i>

1172
01:18:33,402 --> 01:18:40,110
<i>and it was clear that Marc</i>
<i>and Ryan were buried there.</i>

1173
01:18:42,180 --> 01:18:45,819
<i>There was no chance</i>
<i>of survival.</i>

1174
01:19:09,306 --> 01:19:14,342
[Brette] We were hoping to do a
recovery of their bodies but...

1175
01:19:14,377 --> 01:19:17,884
it didn't happen. They just
disappeared into the glacier.

1176
01:19:23,892 --> 01:19:25,991
I remember sitting out there

1177
01:19:26,026 --> 01:19:29,192
on the ice field
and wondering, like,

1178
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,295
"Why wasn't I with him?"

1179
01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:37,233
Like, I felt
I should've been there.

1180
01:19:38,874 --> 01:19:42,942
I didn't even know
that life could be that painful.

1181
01:19:42,977 --> 01:19:46,077
I didn't even know it existed
until you experience it.

1182
01:19:46,112 --> 01:19:51,280
It's like we're kind of living
in this blissful magical life,

1183
01:19:51,315 --> 01:19:53,986
and then you're hit
with this shockwave of pain,

1184
01:19:54,021 --> 01:19:56,120
and you'll never be the same.

1185
01:20:02,062 --> 01:20:05,800
After he died, I just
didn't care about anything.

1186
01:20:07,265 --> 01:20:08,803
Nothing mattered.

1187
01:20:10,268 --> 01:20:13,808
Maybe I would
just disappear also.

1188
01:20:18,045 --> 01:20:20,881
But then I remembered
this conversation

1189
01:20:20,916 --> 01:20:23,147
that I had with Marc.

1190
01:20:23,182 --> 01:20:25,919
Marc said that if something
happened to him,

1191
01:20:25,954 --> 01:20:28,416
he wants me to keep going.

1192
01:20:31,223 --> 01:20:34,323
He didn't want me
to lose my spirit.

1193
01:20:34,358 --> 01:20:38,195
He just wanted me to keep
climbing, keep loving life,

1194
01:20:39,198 --> 01:20:42,837
and be happy. Yeah.

1195
01:20:44,104 --> 01:20:45,532
You have no idea how hard it is.

1196
01:20:45,567 --> 01:20:48,975
In theory you can say it, but
to actually be living that...

1197
01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:56,444
I went back to Alaska.

1198
01:20:57,282 --> 01:20:59,315
It's so beautiful there,

1199
01:20:59,350 --> 01:21:04,452
but being there without him
felt so awful.

1200
01:21:10,526 --> 01:21:13,967
I was in so much pain

1201
01:21:14,002 --> 01:21:18,004
and the only time
I could feel an escape from that

1202
01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:19,874
was being in the mountains.

1203
01:21:22,472 --> 01:21:26,276
I keep returning to these places
we climbed together.

1204
01:21:29,149 --> 01:21:32,084
They are infused with him.

1205
01:21:33,615 --> 01:21:38,156
I came upon this piton
and I'm certain it's Marc's.

1206
01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:43,029
I feel like you're here, Marc.

1207
01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:46,428
I just miss him so much, like,
I miss our adventures together.

1208
01:21:55,274 --> 01:21:58,275
But I know that you'd want me
to be here

1209
01:21:58,310 --> 01:22:00,376
and I know that you'd be proud.

1210
01:22:07,088 --> 01:22:08,549
[wind gusts]

1211
01:22:19,496 --> 01:22:21,166
Just his typical smile.

1212
01:22:22,532 --> 01:22:24,334
[sighs] Yeah.

1213
01:22:27,636 --> 01:22:30,945
[Peter] You guys have a similar
smile. [laughs]

1214
01:22:33,444 --> 01:22:35,642
[Michelle] How I'm doing
is a day-to-day thing.

1215
01:22:37,712 --> 01:22:41,120
Without Marc-André, yeah,

1216
01:22:41,155 --> 01:22:44,024
it was like something
was suddenly

1217
01:22:44,059 --> 01:22:47,423
and irrevocably wrong
with the universe.

1218
01:22:47,458 --> 01:22:52,494
It was, like, that's just
not how it should be.

1219
01:23:02,209 --> 01:23:04,011
I'm sorry.

1220
01:23:06,807 --> 01:23:13,218
In some indefinable way,
you've moved to another place

1221
01:23:13,253 --> 01:23:15,990
and you have to learn
how to live there.

1222
01:23:29,104 --> 01:23:31,797
[Peter]<i> A few months</i>
<i>after the accident,</i>

1223
01:23:31,832 --> 01:23:34,074
<i>friends came to Squamish</i>

1224
01:23:34,109 --> 01:23:37,638
<i>from all over the world</i>
<i>to celebrate Marc.</i>

1225
01:23:37,673 --> 01:23:40,674
[chatter]

1226
01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:46,218
[Hugo, in Spanish]

1227
01:23:58,166 --> 01:24:00,595
He was one of a kind.

1228
01:24:00,630 --> 01:24:03,565
He was an individual individual.

1229
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,600
He just burned very bright

1230
01:24:05,635 --> 01:24:07,206
and he left an indelible mark

1231
01:24:07,241 --> 01:24:10,143
on a lot of people
in a short time, didn't he?

1232
01:24:14,512 --> 01:24:16,512
Wow, there's a lot of you.

1233
01:24:18,186 --> 01:24:21,748
As any parent knows,
raising children is a tough job,

1234
01:24:21,783 --> 01:24:23,354
but I am thankful

1235
01:24:23,389 --> 01:24:25,488
that at least God
granted me the grace

1236
01:24:25,523 --> 01:24:27,424
to understand
this about my son,

1237
01:24:27,459 --> 01:24:31,098
to not stand in the way of
his passion for the mountains.

1238
01:24:44,575 --> 01:24:46,773
[Michelle] Of course, I worried.

1239
01:24:46,808 --> 01:24:49,611
What mother doesn't worry
about the children she's raised

1240
01:24:49,646 --> 01:24:50,679
to leave her and go out

1241
01:24:50,714 --> 01:24:54,451
into this beautiful
but dangerous and broken world?

1242
01:24:54,486 --> 01:24:57,718
[laughs] It's so exposed.

1243
01:24:57,753 --> 01:24:59,291
[Michelle] I believe Marc-André

1244
01:24:59,326 --> 01:25:01,887
lived the life
he was intended to live.

1245
01:25:01,922 --> 01:25:04,857
That he was meant
to scale mountains,

1246
01:25:04,892 --> 01:25:08,663
stand on summits, find his way
into lonely valleys...

1247
01:25:08,698 --> 01:25:10,203
Super happy.

1248
01:25:10,238 --> 01:25:11,336
[Michelle] ...and love one woman

1249
01:25:11,371 --> 01:25:12,634
with all his heart,
his little B.

1250
01:25:12,669 --> 01:25:17,375
-How are you, Brette?
-It's pretty chilly. [laughs]

1251
01:25:18,444 --> 01:25:20,444
[Michelle]
Tolkien in<i> The Hobbit</i> says,

1252
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,645
"There are no safe paths
in this part of the world.

1253
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,351
You're over the edge
of the wild now."

1254
01:25:26,386 --> 01:25:28,617
[Marc] Oh, yeah, look at that.

1255
01:25:28,652 --> 01:25:29,585
[Michelle] Well, Marc-André,

1256
01:25:29,620 --> 01:25:31,389
you are truly over the edge
of the wild now.

1257
01:25:31,424 --> 01:25:33,886
[Marc] The storm came in
with a strong north wind.

1258
01:25:33,921 --> 01:25:36,394
[Michelle] I hope
the mountains there are amazing

1259
01:25:36,429 --> 01:25:37,527
and the sunsets are beautiful.

1260
01:25:37,562 --> 01:25:39,595
[Marc] And then it cleared
for a bit

1261
01:25:39,630 --> 01:25:41,531
as the eye of the storm
passed over us.

1262
01:25:41,566 --> 01:25:42,565
We are all richer

1263
01:25:42,601 --> 01:25:46,767
for calling you son, brother,
partner and friend.

1264
01:25:46,802 --> 01:25:48,637
Whoo!

1265
01:25:48,672 --> 01:25:51,310
[Michelle] Thank you for
giving us 25 remarkable years.

1266
01:25:51,345 --> 01:25:53,246
Holy fuck!

1267
01:25:53,281 --> 01:25:55,545
[applause]

1268
01:25:57,747 --> 01:25:59,582
Whoo!

1269
01:26:08,395 --> 01:26:11,660
[Peter]<i> Having come</i>
<i>to know Marc as a friend,</i>

1270
01:26:11,695 --> 01:26:13,530
<i>as well as a climber...</i>

1271
01:26:14,269 --> 01:26:15,602
[laughs]

1272
01:26:15,637 --> 01:26:21,307
<i>...it's hard to reconcile</i>
<i>the idealism of his ascents</i>

1273
01:26:21,342 --> 01:26:24,178
<i>with the tragic consequences.</i>

1274
01:26:27,843 --> 01:26:29,777
<i>That's why alpinism remains</i>

1275
01:26:29,812 --> 01:26:32,384
<i>such a contradiction</i>
<i>in my mind,</i>

1276
01:26:32,419 --> 01:26:33,946
<i>such a mystery.</i>

1277
01:26:37,457 --> 01:26:38,951
<i>But I believe what Marc did</i>

1278
01:26:38,986 --> 01:26:41,723
<i>with his time on Earth</i>
<i>was beautiful.</i>

1279
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:48,862
<i>He followed</i>
<i>the course of his own dreams.</i>

1280
01:26:52,736 --> 01:26:54,637
[Michelle]
A lot of us live our lives

1281
01:26:54,672 --> 01:26:56,375
thinking of the things
we'd like to do

1282
01:26:56,410 --> 01:27:00,478
or the adventures we'd like
to have, but we hold back.

1283
01:27:02,812 --> 01:27:05,010
That's what really
stands out to me

1284
01:27:05,045 --> 01:27:07,419
about Marc-André's journey.

1285
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:12,391
It's about what is it
that you would do

1286
01:27:12,426 --> 01:27:14,459
if you were able to overcome

1287
01:27:14,494 --> 01:27:17,660
the things that you
see as limitations

1288
01:27:17,695 --> 01:27:20,630
or the things
that you're afraid of?

1289
01:27:20,665 --> 01:27:22,698
You know, what would you do?

1290
01:27:45,657 --> 01:27:47,657
[wind whistles]

1291
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:25,090
[♪ "Manchester" by Kishi Bashi]

1292
01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:29,028
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