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[Wind blowing]

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[Terrill musser] We were always
taught we were special, okay?

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We were these special people and
we got to come to this special place

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and we were going to build
like a heaven on earth here.

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[Lori Barlow] If you were thinking
of a place to start a homestead,

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it wasn't really
an attractive one.

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It was, you know, high desert
and it'd need a lot of work.

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[Laughs] But heavenly
father had his purpose

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in bringing the community
here and offering that.

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That... that's why
it... It's special.

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[Musser] It was one
big family in... in a sense.

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And their idea was to build a
place where we were all equal.

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It's peace on earth
basically. A utopia.

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[Indistinct conversation]

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We have so much data go through.

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We've only
scratched the surface,

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so I don't even know
what's going to be there.

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But it's archives of everything.

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[Chorus singing]

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This is the 1987 love at home,
there at our meeting house.

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- [Band music playing]
- This is 1989.

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There's things like that. There's the...
the parade. The pioneer day parades.

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[Marching band playing]

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- [Kids shouting] - [Woman]
Woah, that's a big crowd.

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This is mostly for people
to see what it really was like.

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This shows who we really
were before the craziness.

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My childhood,
like, was so happy.

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Like... like there
wasn't a place i'd...

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I would rather have grown up.

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This community was
amazing. It was awesome.

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I mean, we could roam the
hills, we could play in the crick.

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You know, the crick
was my backyard.

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[Shirlee draper] It was plays and programs
and dances and community celebrations.

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There were all these artistic
expressions available to us.

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[Musser] This town
was a busy town.

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You got to realize there was almost
at one time 18,000 people out here.

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We worked together
to build our town.

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That sense of community of,

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"hey, we can all 200 of us go
over here and build this house."

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[Woman] Raise up the bucket.

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- [Machine rattling]
- [Kid humming]

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[Musser] And we would. We'd
go build a whole house in a day

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and give it to a family
that was in need.

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Be like, "hey, let's go
do a big 4th of July."

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It wasn't the city that put
it on. It wasn't the county.

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It was we, the people,
who put everything on.

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We had so much community pride.

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[Draper] We were safe
and we were happy.

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And we were
fundamentalist mormons.

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[Esther bistline] We still
consider ourselves mormon.

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We believe in the
book of mormon,

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but we believe in the original
teachings of Joseph Smith.

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The biggest drift between
the lds and the fundamentalists,

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the flds, is obviously
going to be plural marriage,

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which is the term
we like to use.

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[Norma Richter] When the lds church
decided not to sanction plurality of wives,

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we continued on
with the fundamentals

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that the prophet
Joseph set forth to live.

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[Musser] That's where
we kind of broke off

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our church and
started this town.

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[Richter] My grandfather was one
of the first pioneers that came here.

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He had his homestead

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and then a group of them
dedicated the land to the church.

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And that's how it began here
and it was with my grandfather.

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The people could have a place

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where they could live the united
order as brigham young taught.

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[Richter] The united order is
to have everything in common.

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There is no rich,
there is no poor.

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We all share what we have without
having to rely on the outside world.

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[Musser] And so
the united effort plan

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was everybody was
going to donate all the land

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so that nobody could take it
and we could divide it equally

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because that was the
dream. We were all equal.

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And so, the first united
effort plan was a...

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Was a bunch of land that
was put together in a trust.

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[Lori] When that
trust was formed,

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the land was then
dedicated to heavenly father

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and to the building of the
peace kingdom on the earth.

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- Build up that kingdom.
- [Kids] Build up that kingdom.

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- Say, "build up Zion."
- [Kids] Build up Zion.

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So everybody, at the time
they were building their homes,

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had the understanding that they were
consecrating, were the words that we used,

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these materials to the trust.

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[Musser] We didn't
own anything out here.

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Everything was
god's and the trust's.

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Everybody here
believed the same thing.

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[Draper] You know, we believed
this was how god wanted us to live.

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If you had warned me, I
would have gone ahead

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and, you know, cleaned
my laundry room. [Laughs]

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[Dryer whirring]

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Do you want to help?

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You're no good at pretending the
camera doesn't exist, are you? [Laughing]

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There you go. You
want to help me?

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Oh, you're... you've never
been so willing to help before.

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You are quite a little actress.

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Yeah, that's yours too, huh?

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This is my baby girl,
angel. Hi. [Laughs]

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Angel will be 18 this month and,
uh, she has cerebral palsy. Yes.

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So, um, I have three older sons.

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My oldest son, John, has autism.

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And my two middle
sons are brilliant geniuses

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who walk on water
and have always taken

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really good care of
us, huh? Huh, angel?

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[Tape clicking]

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I have no idea what's on that.

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[Draper] That was... That was one
of your favorite places, wasn't it John?

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You loved that park
and it had the train.

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[Indistinct shouting]

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This is in 2000. Wow. Boy,
that would be interesting.

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[All laughing]

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- [Woman 1] Watch the...
- [Woman 2] Is there a happy face?

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There they are. There
are all of the happy people.

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[Draper] I had no problem
with plural marriage.

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I mean, born and raised into it.

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Born and raised to people who
had been practicing for a long time.

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I had no problem with it
because it's what I knew.

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I grew up believing that
god would choose my partner.

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That god had the right
person in mind for me.

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And that the prophet would
know and that was my expectation.

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I got the call that the
prophet was going to

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place me and so, it
was a Monday morning.

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I did not know who I
was going to marry.

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And we were married
at 5 o'clock that night.

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First time I had
ever kissed anyone.

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The man I was told to marry.
We were both in the choir.

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Um, I did know him.

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It wasn't like I was horrified at the thought
of marrying him or being told who to marry.

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And at the age of 22, you know,
making a conscious decision

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to marry the person that
the prophet told me to marry.

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You know, it's not like I was a 15-year-old
and didn't know what I was getting into.

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It was part of our culture.

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[Draper] Here we are
outside the honeymoon suite.

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They just got home.

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- Okay [giggling]
- [Draper] here they come.

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- This is so embarrassing.
- [Grunting]

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Hey, that's cute.

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[Draper] Marge was brought into
our family and it was fairly natural.

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♪ There is beauty all around ♪

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♪ when there's love at home ♪

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[Draper] I had ten biological
siblings and Marge was one of them.

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By then, it was really common
for younger sisters to marry

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into the family
of the elder sister.

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And so, I kind of assumed
that would happen.

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And I could see some of
the benefits of plural marriage.

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In fact, I benefited greatly
from plural marriage.

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From having my sister, who
I already loved in my home

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taking care of my children
after my little girl was born

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I think, you know,
nine months later,

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and I ended up spending three
years in the hospital with her.

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And my younger sister was home,
loving and caring for my children

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how I wanted them
to be taken care of.

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That was a huge benefit.

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You know, I think
this is one of the topics

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that really trips
up a lot of people.

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They feel like that because
polygamy receives so much attention

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that that is the
tenet of our religion

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and it's really
only one of them.

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It's a small piece
of the religion.

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I don't think it's fair
that the hegemonic gaze

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of mainstream gets to
define a culture. Any culture.

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But when it comes
to populations that are,

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you know, created
to be deviants,

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then that is absolutely
accepted and that's the way it is.

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They put them all in a basket and
this is how we understand them.

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The big line of police cars were
like lining the street, coming this way.

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And that went all the way out to
the highway, which it doesn't now.

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And so, when they came,
they were facing this way.

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[On tape] We come today to
the subject of the 1953 raid.

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It's very important that
you young people see

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how the prophets
and other good people

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have defended
you, protected you.

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How the government
of the United States

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persecuted this priesthood
through the years.

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The 1953 raid was made
to destroy our families.

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[Bistline] In 1953, the
state of Arizona did come in.

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They arrested all the men.

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[Draper] They were planning
to release the women.

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They thought that women were
here not of their own accord,

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and they thought that they
were going to open up the cage

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and allow the women to fly
free and they would be grateful.

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And to their surprise, the
women were not grateful.

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[Warren Jeffs] They wanted to take
the children away from the parents.

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Adopt the children out, and then
in a few years, destroy the records.

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So the children wouldn't
know their lineage.

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The 1953 raid was always
talked about when I was growing up

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because both of my parents
were taken away as children.

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My own father was eight
years old and was dragged out

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from under a bed by a
uniformed police officer,

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whose intent was to separate from
him from his parents and adopt him out.

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[Jeffs] They wanted to
stamp out polygamy forever.

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But the mothers would
not leave their children.

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And they got onto the
buses with the children.

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Went with the children and
were scattered throughout Arizona.

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The state of Arizona
wanted to erase us.

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The state of Utah
wanted to erase us.

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We are an annoyance to
them. A big Thorn in their side.

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Why? I don't know other
than that we're different.

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And there were stories the women
had written. I mean, we have books of it

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because we want to
keep this alive in the minds

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of not only us, but our children,
and our children's children.

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[Jeffs] I realize this raid took place
before you young people were born.

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I ask you to go home
today and imagine tonight

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all of you taken away and
placed among the gentiles.

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Having to live among
them and their ways.

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[Draper] That raid
really defined for us

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of how the government's
not to be trusted.

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How law enforcement is
specifically not to be trusted.

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And so, we get into this idea
that anybody new that comes in

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they're coming to
gather information.

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They're coming to
hurt us in some way.

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So we work together even closer

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more determined to not let
the world in to hurt us anymore.

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[Interviewer] So,
first order of business,

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tell me who you are and
what you do for a living.

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Uh, my name is Glenn
meehan and I am a TV producer,

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showrunner, um, lover of life.

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[Laughs] I don't
know what else to say.

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I've done documentaries. I've
done court shows, talk shows.

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I co-created a couple
of reality shows.

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This was probably 12 years
ago, maybe even longer.

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There was this amazing
article on, um, the phenonium

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of the lost boys from the flds.

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About how Warren Jeffs,
who was the prophet,

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he basically told these, um,
families to kick their boys out

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and send them away
at 14, 15, 16 years old.

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So the older men could have some
of the younger women as wives.

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So they didn't want the
competition with the younger men.

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I was fascinated with this.

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So, I got a plane ticket and
I went to look into the flds.

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[Meehan] This town is on the
other side of the Zion mountains

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on the border of hildale, Utah,

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and um, Colorado city, Arizona.

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It is just stunning.

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But yet, beauty is
only so deep there.

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We met Sam brower, a private
investigator working with the government.

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And I remember Sam telling me that
they're aware you're here. Be careful.

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[Brower] This guy right
here is one of the spies.

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[Meehan] He's a spy for who?

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When I heard that, I was
like, "okay, this is fucked up."

242
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[Brower] Where that balcony is.
And then, there's the rain gutter

243
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and there's a lipstick
camera right next to it.

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That's a bell camera.
It's a motorized camera

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that they can watch
and see who comes up.

246
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See all these fences?
They weren't here before.

247
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- This is just...
- [Donia jessop] No.

248
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[Brower] This is
just recent paranoia.

249
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Two year ago, all these
fences weren't here.

250
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[Jessop] No. None
of it was this way.

251
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[Meehan] Get
some of those signs.

252
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You know, just get them.
No trespassing. Uh-oh.

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- [Cameraman] Are they coming after us?
- [Meehan] Yeah.

254
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And I remember
when we were followed.

255
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-Let me give you my card. It's just in the trunk, okay?
-Okay.

256
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- And are all you guys from Massachusetts?
- [Jessop] No.

257
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Are you part of the paper or?

258
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- [Jessop] No, we're just riding around...
- magazine?

259
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[Jessop] ...Looking at
the beautiful scenery.

260
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Beautiful scenery.

261
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We had rocks thrown at us and
people were spitting on the car.

262
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[Women screaming]

263
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The interesting thing about this town
that Sam taught me is like, you know,

264
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if you get in trouble here you can't
call the police 'cause they're all flds.

265
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[Meehan] You
just got to get out.

266
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I remember one girl that I met

267
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um, who said, "I will
meet you in a parking lot.

268
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I've got some stuff for you."

269
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She didn't get out of the car.
She rolled the window down

270
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and she handed
me tapes of Warren.

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[Jeffs] Keeping sweet is an
exertion to remain clean and pure.

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If you're ever not keeping
sweet, then you're not pure.

273
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And I still get chills. Chills
hearing that guy's voice.

274
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It is the most eerie... You
couldn't cast a voice like that.

275
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[Jeffs] We give this
lesson today, young people.

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We have to teach you how to
think and how to live in a pure way.

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You purify your heart by
first cleaning up your mind.

278
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And Warren talked about
the children must obey.

279
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Talked about women always
must obey their husbands.

280
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[Jeffs] And knowing you're
pleasing your husband, your head,

281
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brings you a heaven.

282
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But realize, young ladies, the
best thing is to leave your life

283
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in the hands of god
through his prophet.

284
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That's when I
realized be careful.

285
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You got to be real careful. I mean,
these people were absolutely crazy.

286
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[Bistline] When I was growing up, we
didn't have a lot of outsiders coming in.

287
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There wasn't a lot of scrutiny.

288
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And it got to a
point later on when

289
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you'd come outside and a
camera would be poked in your face.

290
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You know, there
was always somebody

291
00:20:06,406 --> 00:20:09,507
that wanted to know
what was goin' on.

292
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[Richter] Every time
we turned around,

293
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they want to make
us look horrible

294
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that we were these
demonic people

295
00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:17,148
in this horrible cult, you know.

296
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This is absolutely the most
lawless community in the country.

297
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It's run by a madman.

298
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And he has total power
over the people here.

299
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They will do literally anything he
says, and I mean anything he says.

300
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Warren, you might say in the eyes of
some people, became very unpopular.

301
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[Clears throat]

302
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[Piano playing]

303
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♪ I desire here today ♪

304
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♪ to sincerely point the way ♪

305
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[Draper] When rulon Jeffs
had is stroke in about 1998,

306
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Warren Jeffs had taken over.

307
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Things that were suggested and
encouraged before kind of became mandatory.

308
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And, um, and then started really
becoming a lot more strict on things

309
00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:25,816
like language and whether
or not we could dance.

310
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[Jeffs] Evil powers get in control
over us when we are having fun

311
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when we relax our prayers.

312
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[Draper] He started, um, saying we
couldn't wear certain colors and patterns.

313
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Um, women had to wear
their hair certain ways.

314
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No tvs, no radios.
Can't have the Internet.

315
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[Jeffs] I know you
young people are tempted

316
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by the things of this earth.

317
00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:59,417
And some of you have tasted of the
wicked entertainment of the gentiles,

318
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the movies, the music.

319
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[Musser] Children books
were started to be edited.

320
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They would go in
and color long sleeves

321
00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:11,195
until it got to where there
were so many books.

322
00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:12,563
Warren just got rid
of books all together

323
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because he couldn't
edit everything.

324
00:22:15,268 --> 00:22:17,535
[Draper] Warren stood up in church and
announced that they needed to shut down

325
00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:21,572
the public schools because we had
to associate with apostates too much.

326
00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:23,841
That was, you know, two things
that were really horrifying to me.

327
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First of all, that we
had to shun and hate,

328
00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:27,745
which was not
part of our religion,

329
00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:30,614
and that we were going to
deprive children of schooling,

330
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which was really,
really troubling to me.

331
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[Jeffs] In priesthood, we know
that the lord owns everything.

332
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And the priesthood, the prophets,
the bishops have the right to tell

333
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who should have what
and what they should do.

334
00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,501
[Draper] One of the things that
growing up in this community

335
00:22:50,503 --> 00:22:52,336
was pretty sacrosanct
was the family.

336
00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:56,474
That was one of the big changes
that Warren started to make,

337
00:22:56,476 --> 00:23:02,413
just taking women away from a
man that he was trying to punish.

338
00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:05,583
And he would give women to
a man that he was rewarding,

339
00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:07,752
destroying family
units that way.

340
00:23:07,754 --> 00:23:10,221
[Jeffs] You ladies
belong to the prophet

341
00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:13,858
as far as the lord placing
you where you belong.

342
00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:17,795
[Draper] Ah, it became very
troubling, you know, sending men away

343
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in public meetings,
reassigning children around.

344
00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:23,401
And sending mothers away.

345
00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:26,570
And he started just moving people
around from home to home to home.

346
00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:29,707
So there was literally no
structure or safety anywhere,

347
00:23:29,709 --> 00:23:32,343
not physically, not
emotionally, not psychologically.

348
00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:35,713
He really kinda set
himself up as god.

349
00:23:35,715 --> 00:23:40,818
[Jeffs] Any feelings against your
priesthood had is death to you.

350
00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:44,922
This is the law of god through
the prophet to this people now.

351
00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:49,393
It will divide us to be
obedient or disobedient.

352
00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:53,764
[Man] Mother...

353
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:56,500
[Children talking]

354
00:23:56,502 --> 00:23:57,901
- hi.
- [Mouthing] Hi.

355
00:23:57,903 --> 00:24:01,772
[Draper] As I started to
really look at Warren's actions,

356
00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:04,375
I started asking questions.

357
00:24:04,377 --> 00:24:07,445
I was telling people, you
know, we don't worship a man.

358
00:24:07,447 --> 00:24:10,648
How does it come about that he's
asking us to worship him as god?

359
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:16,754
They were not voicing any
kind of disagreement or disbelief.

360
00:24:16,756 --> 00:24:21,192
And so everybody just, you know, we
got in lockstep and marched behind him.

361
00:24:22,261 --> 00:24:25,963
- [Child giggles] - [Man praying]
Dear god, to help Warren.

362
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:30,935
[Draper] That made me just start
looking around and thinking this is it.

363
00:24:30,937 --> 00:24:32,903
This is the
beginning of the end.

364
00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:34,572
They're gonna
trot in the kool-aid.

365
00:24:34,574 --> 00:24:36,474
I need to get out of here.

366
00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:39,910
And I was worried about
my children at that point.

367
00:24:39,912 --> 00:24:43,280
I had four children, two
of them had special needs.

368
00:24:43,282 --> 00:24:44,949
And I had no income.

369
00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:50,921
And all of my sense of identity and
belonging was inside of the community.

370
00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:52,823
And all of my family,
and all of my friends,

371
00:24:52,825 --> 00:24:55,025
and all of my support structure

372
00:24:55,027 --> 00:24:56,393
was inside the community.

373
00:24:56,395 --> 00:25:00,764
By then Warren had... He'd
put in these fail safes, right?

374
00:25:00,766 --> 00:25:03,667
If somebody didn't believe,
they were sent away.

375
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:05,569
And the cost of exit
was that they lost

376
00:25:05,571 --> 00:25:09,273
their families, their community,
their sense of belonging.

377
00:25:09,341 --> 00:25:12,810
I would bleed to death
internally to give up my family.

378
00:25:12,812 --> 00:25:16,614
So I would think, "well, maybe
I'll just keep my mouth shut

379
00:25:16,616 --> 00:25:18,115
for a little while."

380
00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:22,453
And so for four years, it
kind of went on like that.

381
00:25:22,455 --> 00:25:26,390
And those are some of
the darkest years in my life.

382
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- Everyone say, keep sweet.
- [Children] Keep sweet.

383
00:25:31,898 --> 00:25:34,164
- We are grateful.
- [Children] We are grateful.

384
00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,935
- We are grateful.
- [Children] We are grateful.

385
00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:44,174
[Draper] For four years, ya know,
letting my children become indoctrinated.

386
00:25:44,176 --> 00:25:45,509
- [Man] Keep sweet.
- Yeah.

387
00:25:45,511 --> 00:25:47,344
[Man] How come?

388
00:25:48,281 --> 00:25:50,247
[Draper] My husband was saying all the
right things and doing all the right things,

389
00:25:50,249 --> 00:25:51,415
and I was not.

390
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:53,117
[Man] So we?

391
00:25:55,021 --> 00:25:56,153
[Man] We could get what?

392
00:25:57,723 --> 00:25:59,089
[Man] Wonderful.

393
00:25:59,091 --> 00:26:02,293
It was only after, you know,
they were coming to my home

394
00:26:02,295 --> 00:26:04,662
to ask if I believed
in Warren Jeffs.

395
00:26:04,664 --> 00:26:08,999
I thought I really got to make this
move and take my children and leave.

396
00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:14,405
Honestly, I really believe
it was angel that saved me.

397
00:26:15,308 --> 00:26:19,476
The fact that she was born,
and I had to be in the hospital

398
00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:25,149
with her a lot gave me the excuse
to be away and not going to church.

399
00:26:25,151 --> 00:26:29,386
It gave me that space from that
really, you know, terrible structure.

400
00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:31,989
[Man] She can do it.

401
00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:34,858
[Draper] She can do it.

402
00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:35,592
[Man] Nice.

403
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:39,997
[Draper] Kay, step. Kay, step.

404
00:26:39,999 --> 00:26:44,868
[Draper] She also has the most
incredible nature and personality.

405
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:45,636
And she is only love.

406
00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,938
She is unadulterated love.

407
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:52,076
I've never experienced
unconditional love before in my life.

408
00:26:52,545 --> 00:26:55,012
[Woman squeals]
Did you see that?

409
00:26:55,014 --> 00:26:59,316
She lets go of her cane and
walks to me with one cane.

410
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:01,251
[Woman laughs]

411
00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:05,422
She is just so full of love.

412
00:27:05,424 --> 00:27:08,058
This little girl, I think
she keeps me alive.

413
00:27:10,196 --> 00:27:11,196
[Whispers] Yeah.

414
00:27:11,497 --> 00:27:13,197
Yes.

415
00:27:15,434 --> 00:27:19,970
And it was because of her, and it
was because of all of the circumstances

416
00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:26,176
that I was with her in my
life that actually enabled me

417
00:27:26,178 --> 00:27:28,812
to make the
decisions that I made

418
00:27:28,814 --> 00:27:31,015
and to drive away
and to support myself.

419
00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:32,983
And so I've...

420
00:27:38,858 --> 00:27:40,257
She saved me.

421
00:28:02,415 --> 00:28:07,017
We're gathering what we call
Indian marbles or sandstone marbles.

422
00:28:07,586 --> 00:28:09,820
We're gonna be making
things out of them.

423
00:28:09,822 --> 00:28:13,991
Look at this. I found you
some coasters for your...

424
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,759
- Coasters.
- Yeah. Look.

425
00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:17,861
For your what?

426
00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:18,929
- There's ya coaster set.
- [Chuckles]

427
00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:20,330
For what?

428
00:28:20,332 --> 00:28:23,100
That's to put your hot
drinks on the coffee table.

429
00:28:24,804 --> 00:28:28,005
[Lori] Why do you do what you do?
Why do you dress the way you do?

430
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:29,239
Why do you live the way you do?

431
00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:33,777
Why don't you have any,
you know, entertainment here?

432
00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:38,816
Why don't you have skating rinks?
Why don't you have movie theaters?

433
00:28:38,818 --> 00:28:41,819
Some people felt like
that, "yeah, why don't we?"

434
00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:43,554
[Chuckles] You know?

435
00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:46,356
And the rest of us were
like 'cause we don't want 'em.

436
00:28:46,358 --> 00:28:50,394
We don't want this kind of stuff
that comes with those places.

437
00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:55,299
That, you know, for sure this
community wasn't set up to handle it.

438
00:29:01,741 --> 00:29:04,875
How many people have
actually met us individually

439
00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:07,678
and thought, "oh, goodness,
they're horrible people,"

440
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,414
that actually got to
know us that said hello.

441
00:29:10,416 --> 00:29:13,450
And got to know me as a mother.

442
00:29:13,452 --> 00:29:16,120
Would they say I'm
a horrible person?

443
00:29:17,156 --> 00:29:20,257
I don't think so. I hope
not. [Chuckles] You know.

444
00:29:21,427 --> 00:29:23,994
Uncle Warren...

445
00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:27,264
All he did is want to protect
us from some really yucky stuff

446
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,066
that's out there.

447
00:29:29,068 --> 00:29:33,270
Whether it be, you know, the kind
of music that comes in and just...

448
00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:35,973
I watch it even still
with my children.

449
00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:40,043
If they get too much of certain kind
of music, it's like their brain is fried.

450
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,312
You know, or they
get these ideas,

451
00:29:42,314 --> 00:29:46,383
and you're like, where're you
comin' from, girl? [Chuckles]

452
00:29:46,385 --> 00:29:51,421
The only thing he did that probably
got some people little bit agitated

453
00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:56,426
was that he says, "hey,
guys, we've been told to do this

454
00:29:56,428 --> 00:30:00,564
by every single prophet. We've been
told that this is how we need to live.

455
00:30:00,566 --> 00:30:04,134
We've been told this.
Why don't we do it now?"

456
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,673
[Richter] Some didn't
want to live the ways

457
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:12,843
that we've, you
know, we should live.

458
00:30:12,845 --> 00:30:18,115
And we had to send
some people away

459
00:30:18,818 --> 00:30:21,118
that were very close to me too.

460
00:30:22,087 --> 00:30:24,288
This is my...

461
00:30:25,658 --> 00:30:27,157
father.

462
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:30,060
He wasn't here in the community.

463
00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,229
He was sent away.

464
00:30:33,032 --> 00:30:35,399
He was making
restitution for some things

465
00:30:35,401 --> 00:30:37,401
that he knew better than to do.

466
00:30:37,403 --> 00:30:40,504
And, um, I love him.

467
00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:42,172
I still love him.

468
00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:48,846
Even though it was very, very
hard for everyone. We all went there.

469
00:30:48,848 --> 00:30:50,814
The shock, you know.

470
00:30:50,816 --> 00:30:53,083
But at the same time,

471
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:54,718
we could see the good.

472
00:30:54,987 --> 00:30:59,690
In my mind, when some of these
people started getting sent away,

473
00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:03,861
I felt like the town was
being made more safe.

474
00:31:03,863 --> 00:31:08,031
[Richter] Uncle Warren
was just like his father.

475
00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:12,803
They were just genuine,
concerned, loving people.

476
00:31:12,805 --> 00:31:14,071
I don't know what else to say.

477
00:31:14,073 --> 00:31:15,973
I mean, that's my truth.

478
00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:17,241
And I'll hold to it.

479
00:31:17,610 --> 00:31:18,610
But...

480
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:24,414
people may say
what they believe.

481
00:31:29,355 --> 00:31:31,922
We kinda grew up
in a different culture

482
00:31:31,924 --> 00:31:35,292
'cause everybody else grew up
and mtv, and your like, what is mtv?

483
00:31:35,961 --> 00:31:37,294
Who's that?

484
00:31:37,296 --> 00:31:38,428
Who's nirvana?

485
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:40,664
What?

486
00:31:40,666 --> 00:31:43,700
Warren just slowly controlled
everything by information.

487
00:31:43,702 --> 00:31:44,968
You couldn't have the Internet.

488
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:47,371
No tvs. You couldn't travel.

489
00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:48,872
You couldn't be educated.

490
00:31:48,874 --> 00:31:54,678
And he'd always bring in some sort
of revelation of why you couldn't it.

491
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,914
[Jeffs] The lord has
a message to me.

492
00:31:56,916 --> 00:32:03,086
He will not protect
an unclean people.

493
00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:05,789
And if you set a bad example

494
00:32:05,791 --> 00:32:08,892
one day in the day of judgement

495
00:32:08,894 --> 00:32:10,593
you will have to pay for it.

496
00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:13,830
[Musser] At that point, you realize
he's just down there playing around.

497
00:32:13,832 --> 00:32:17,401
He's just, let's see what they'll
do next. See what they'll do next.

498
00:32:17,403 --> 00:32:20,203
No would stand up
and say, "that's wrong."

499
00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:25,575
My dad had taken
me into Warren's office.

500
00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:28,879
He wanted all the elders to
go in and swear their allegiance.

501
00:32:28,881 --> 00:32:31,682
Where you go in and say, "I will
follow you. I will do everything you say."

502
00:32:31,684 --> 00:32:32,684
And get on a knee.

503
00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:34,251
I had no idea
that's what you did.

504
00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:37,120
And I didn't want to do it.

505
00:32:37,122 --> 00:32:39,589
I'll swear my allegiance
to god, to something else,

506
00:32:39,591 --> 00:32:40,757
but not a man.

507
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:41,959
And that's what
all the books said.

508
00:32:41,961 --> 00:32:44,861
In fact, they say if you
do that, you're stupid.

509
00:32:44,863 --> 00:32:47,097
I mean, you see the
results of history every time.

510
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,167
And he got really pissed.

511
00:32:50,169 --> 00:32:51,834
He says, "I'm your
only way to salvation."

512
00:32:51,836 --> 00:32:54,738
And I says, "well, that sure shoots
the shit out that Jesus Christ theory

513
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:56,473
I was raised my
whole life to hear."

514
00:32:56,475 --> 00:32:58,909
And that pissed
him off even more.

515
00:32:58,911 --> 00:33:03,981
He is just raised up on his
tippy toes over me yelling.

516
00:33:03,983 --> 00:33:06,249
And my dad's behind
me 'bout to pass out

517
00:33:06,251 --> 00:33:08,719
'cause my dad does
not do confrontation.

518
00:33:08,721 --> 00:33:14,124
He does not like to go against
anybody, especially at that time.

519
00:33:14,727 --> 00:33:15,792
And he was just white.

520
00:33:15,794 --> 00:33:18,362
He didn't say one
thing. And I walked out.

521
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:23,400
I got in my blazer,
drove to st George.

522
00:33:23,402 --> 00:33:27,037
And that's where I stayed for in
my blazer for the next three months

523
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:28,572
trying to learn
how to navigate life

524
00:33:28,574 --> 00:33:32,609
because I didn't know how to
do anything outside this world.

525
00:33:32,611 --> 00:33:35,212
And I was one of the
first to leave in my family.

526
00:33:35,214 --> 00:33:37,514
My dad gathered up all the kids,

527
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:40,951
said that I was no longer their
brother, no longer their sibling.

528
00:33:40,953 --> 00:33:44,488
They burned all my pictures.
They threw everything away.

529
00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:47,024
I was no longer
part of the family.

530
00:33:47,026 --> 00:33:49,659
And, uh, I never had
contact with them.

531
00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:51,228
I'm the apostate now.

532
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:53,463
I'm an apostate. I'm
the worst of the worst.

533
00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:55,032
I knew...

534
00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:57,667
knew the truth, and I
turned my back on 'em.

535
00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,002
In their eyes,

536
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:02,239
and they even say it,
you'd been better off to die.

537
00:34:08,414 --> 00:34:10,447
[Meehan] You know, it was pretty
fascinating 'cause from the time

538
00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:14,851
I read the article about how
Warren Jeffs told these, um, families

539
00:34:14,853 --> 00:34:19,856
to kick their boys out till the time I
arrived was literally about 48 hours.

540
00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:21,491
Back in those days
there wasn't Google.

541
00:34:21,493 --> 00:34:24,294
And I just kinda basically had
the article and a few other people

542
00:34:24,296 --> 00:34:25,762
that I was talking
to on the phone.

543
00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:28,231
So I went over to
this woman's office

544
00:34:28,233 --> 00:34:31,301
and, uh, she said,
"okay let's get in the car.

545
00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:35,005
I'm taking you to this apartment
building about 25 miles north

546
00:34:35,007 --> 00:34:39,276
to find our own group of lost
boys that were recently kicked out."

547
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,850
[Interview] Are
you the main cook?

548
00:34:46,852 --> 00:34:49,219
Uh, yeah, I guess you'd call
me another Martha Stewart.

549
00:34:49,221 --> 00:34:51,455
[Chuckles]

550
00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:54,624
[Meehan] So the first person I
met was Ethan... Uh, Ethan Fisher.

551
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,127
He was one of the
first that Warren Jeffs...

552
00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:59,863
Asked his parents
to take him home.

553
00:34:59,865 --> 00:35:05,135
I was, uh, told I was not, uh,
performing like I should've been.

554
00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:07,704
I guess from a
religious standpoint, so.

555
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:12,776
So I was just told to... Try and
do better from a different place.

556
00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:15,579
[Meehan] He was a father
figure, because he was...

557
00:35:15,581 --> 00:35:17,781
The first out.

558
00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:21,785
So we moved in here with, uh,
three, and... That turned to five, and...

559
00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:25,822
Then six, then seven,
and then it just varies.

560
00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:28,892
Varies during the
week to the weekends,

561
00:35:28,894 --> 00:35:32,162
depending on who even just needs
a place to land, and something to eat.

562
00:35:32,164 --> 00:35:34,464
I really do...

563
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:38,401
Uh, go out of my way to try to care
for anybody that really does need help.

564
00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:42,205
Especially somebody
that I, uh, can relate to.

565
00:35:42,207 --> 00:35:43,806
It's almost like you
consider them...

566
00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:47,677
A brother or a sister, just because you've
shared a lot of the same experiences.

567
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:54,184
I remember the first kid that I met
besides Ethan was this kid parley.

568
00:35:54,186 --> 00:36:00,090
My name's parley dutson. That's
spelled p-a-r-l-e-y. That's d-u-t-s-o-n.

569
00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:02,659
[Meehan] I think he asked if I
knew Arnold Schwarzenegger

570
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:04,461
and Tom Cruise.

571
00:36:04,463 --> 00:36:05,896
Uh, you know, because of course,

572
00:36:05,898 --> 00:36:07,464
everybody thinks
that if you live in la,

573
00:36:07,466 --> 00:36:11,468
your next-door neighbor
is Tom Cruise. [Laughs]

574
00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:13,803
[Meehan] Why do you think
was... Was it your father's doing,

575
00:36:13,805 --> 00:36:16,740
was it somebody else's doing
that you were asked to leave?

576
00:36:16,742 --> 00:36:19,042
Well, Warren told them that...

577
00:36:19,044 --> 00:36:20,510
They'll be asked
out if they don't...

578
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:23,146
Tell their rebellious children
to get out of the house.

579
00:36:23,148 --> 00:36:25,515
To leave town. The
whole family will have to go.

580
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:28,652
[Meehan] So your father...

581
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:31,354
Listened to Warren, and
decided he didn't want to leave,

582
00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:33,323
- so he asked you to leave.
- Yeah.

583
00:36:33,325 --> 00:36:36,560
[Meehan] He was probably
one of the most lost boys there.

584
00:36:36,562 --> 00:36:39,796
When I first left, I didn't have
anything to look forward to, really.

585
00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:43,233
Kinda sucks, because you don't
have family, real family to go to.

586
00:36:43,936 --> 00:36:46,136
No one to hang out
with, stuff like that.

587
00:36:47,739 --> 00:36:49,272
So I missed that a lot.

588
00:36:49,274 --> 00:36:51,808
[Meehan] They took us
on a tour of the community.

589
00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:55,912
[Boy 1] Uh, they used to have,
like, uh, some of these booths are...

590
00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:58,582
Set up for a lot of those, uh,
park-type days, where they'd have...

591
00:36:58,584 --> 00:37:00,483
- [Boy 2] Waffles.
- Hamburger lines, and waffles...

592
00:37:00,485 --> 00:37:02,719
And... and it was, it
was really a lot of fun.

593
00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:06,556
We never had any harvest fests
when Warren was the prophet.

594
00:37:06,558 --> 00:37:08,625
- Never had any activities here.
- When he was the prophet,

595
00:37:08,627 --> 00:37:10,860
he shut all of it...
Everything down.

596
00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:12,429
You couldn't say
the word "party."

597
00:37:12,431 --> 00:37:13,730
Because it would
turn into "fun,"

598
00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:14,898
and I think even fun
became a bad word.

599
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:16,399
So he's kind of a fun-hater.

600
00:37:16,401 --> 00:37:18,735
Fun is... you're supposed
to call it "enjoyment."

601
00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:21,771
- Yeah, "enjoyment."
- You're there, you're not even supposed to say fun out here.

602
00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,673
We're just going to go
to my house, because...

603
00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:25,875
[Meehan] I remembered
Leroy, he wanted to go home.

604
00:37:25,877 --> 00:37:29,379
He needed to get...
something, at the house.

605
00:37:29,381 --> 00:37:30,847
The house he was kicked out of.

606
00:37:32,784 --> 00:37:35,852
And I remember we drove up to
the house and Leroy was mic'd.

607
00:37:35,854 --> 00:37:38,688
And I asked him if he
wanted to take his mic off.

608
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:41,424
I wanted to give him
privacy. He said "no.

609
00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:43,059
You can hear what's
going on inside, right?"

610
00:37:43,061 --> 00:37:44,194
And I said, "okay."

611
00:37:45,831 --> 00:37:46,930
[Leroy] Sylvie!

612
00:37:46,932 --> 00:37:49,065
- [Sylvie exclaiming]
- Hey!

613
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:53,270
- Leroy, there's Leroy!
- Hey.

614
00:37:53,272 --> 00:37:56,606
- Hey there.
- [Sylvie squealing]

615
00:37:56,608 --> 00:38:00,810
[Meehan] You can hear the joy in his brothers
and sisters. "Leroy's home! Leroy's home!"

616
00:38:00,812 --> 00:38:03,813
And I started to
cry... Hearing this.

617
00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:09,386
At one point, one of his younger
brothers said, "are you gonna stay?"

618
00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:11,755
[Boy on recording] Why
won't you stay over here?

619
00:38:11,757 --> 00:38:12,989
[Leroy] Because I can't.

620
00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:14,391
He said, "no, I can't."

621
00:38:14,526 --> 00:38:17,827
"No, I can't."

622
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:22,332
And he got back in the Van, and we looked
at these kids looking out the window.

623
00:38:24,436 --> 00:38:30,140
That was probably one of the most memorable
moments. That's when it hit home to me.

624
00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:33,109
Here's a kid, that was
probably 16 at the time...

625
00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:36,546
Kicked out, in the
name of... A prophet,

626
00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:38,782
and the parents
didn't even question.

627
00:38:38,784 --> 00:38:42,352
I was, all of a sudden, somebody
witnessing something that...

628
00:38:42,354 --> 00:38:44,421
I couldn't believe was
happening in this country.

629
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,233
[Richter] We are
a kind, loving...

630
00:38:57,836 --> 00:38:59,402
Forgiving people.

631
00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:01,838
There's things
we won't tolerate.

632
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,744
We won't tolerate, um,
immorality. We won't tolerate deceit.

633
00:39:07,746 --> 00:39:11,081
We just don't tolerate that. And when we
find someone among us that's doing that,

634
00:39:11,083 --> 00:39:12,382
then they're asked to leave.

635
00:39:15,187 --> 00:39:17,987
The people that caused...
have caused us the worst harm...

636
00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:21,057
Are the ones that
have... Left our religion.

637
00:39:21,827 --> 00:39:25,161
And, they become...

638
00:39:26,565 --> 00:39:28,865
Empty, I guess? I don't know.

639
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:32,635
They just become...
They're out of water.

640
00:39:32,637 --> 00:39:34,504
They're like a fish out
of water, and they're...

641
00:39:34,506 --> 00:39:37,040
They're trying to
figure out who they are.

642
00:39:37,042 --> 00:39:40,176
So in that, they become
sometimes very...

643
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:41,845
Hurtful.

644
00:39:41,847 --> 00:39:44,581
Joining us are two women
who have escaped the flds,

645
00:39:44,583 --> 00:39:46,516
and what they say
was a living hell.

646
00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:50,887
Elissa wall spent 18
years in an flds compound.

647
00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:56,860
She was forced by Warren Jeffs to
marry her own cousin when she just 14.

648
00:39:56,862 --> 00:39:59,763
[Richter] They just...
Try to bring a lot of

649
00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:01,998
- injury upon our culture.
- [Indistinct]

650
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,934
I had to go through
all the horrors of...

651
00:40:04,936 --> 00:40:06,703
Being in that
abusive relationship.

652
00:40:06,705 --> 00:40:08,571
Of watching the women around me,

653
00:40:08,573 --> 00:40:12,909
watching the men around me, watching
the people around me, be abused.

654
00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:17,147
The church, and Warren,
and the other church authorities

655
00:40:17,149 --> 00:40:18,348
were bombarded with...

656
00:40:19,084 --> 00:40:20,116
Uh...

657
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:22,252
Lawsuits.

658
00:40:22,821 --> 00:40:24,821
[Intense music playing]

659
00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:26,389
[Musser] All the court cases,

660
00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:30,260
all the subpoenas, and... Him
thinking he's above the law...

661
00:40:30,262 --> 00:40:32,996
Finally, the people were gonna
see this man for who he really is.

662
00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:34,030
Oh, no.

663
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:37,233
They twisted the story
of... Just like Joe Smith.

664
00:40:37,636 --> 00:40:39,702
They're persecuting prophet.

665
00:40:39,704 --> 00:40:43,173
The truth of the matter is
it's been going for 200 years.

666
00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:46,109
And every prophet and bishop,

667
00:40:46,111 --> 00:40:49,312
clear back to Joseph Smith,
and brigham young, John Taylor...

668
00:40:49,648 --> 00:40:51,147
They've been blamed.

669
00:40:51,983 --> 00:40:55,084
"Just like Joe Smith, see,
we... we are the chosen people.

670
00:40:55,587 --> 00:40:56,719
The same things are happening."

671
00:40:56,721 --> 00:40:58,621
Of course the same
things are happening.

672
00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:00,990
You're doing the same stupid
shit, you're pissing people off!

673
00:41:00,992 --> 00:41:03,326
[Laughs] You're
breaking the law!

674
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:07,964
[Lori] Before
he... He started...

675
00:41:07,966 --> 00:41:10,166
You know, moving
to different locations,

676
00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:11,901
he had told us,

677
00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:13,970
"I love you.

678
00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:16,039
And I care about
every one of you.

679
00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:19,008
And they're going to tell you

680
00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:22,145
that I don't care about you.

681
00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:24,714
And they're going to tell you
that I have abandoned you.

682
00:41:24,716 --> 00:41:27,951
But, don't... Don't
believe them.

683
00:41:27,953 --> 00:41:31,154
And... if you believe
something is true,

684
00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:33,356
then live it."

685
00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:39,195
[Richter] The day that
uncle Warren was arrested...

686
00:41:40,065 --> 00:41:41,197
Oh.

687
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:43,533
It was like...

688
00:41:43,535 --> 00:41:47,403
A very sinking feeling.
Extreme sadness.

689
00:41:50,842 --> 00:41:53,843
It's unbelievable. [Laughs] I
mean, all these feelings are just...

690
00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:57,046
Coming up and
through, and it... ugh.

691
00:41:57,582 --> 00:42:00,817
You know, why would
they do that to us? Why?

692
00:42:00,819 --> 00:42:05,121
[Inhales] What are they trying
to do? He's done nothing wrong.

693
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:07,824
As things go on,
they start saying

694
00:42:07,826 --> 00:42:12,795
why they had him there, and
what they were accusing him of.

695
00:42:12,797 --> 00:42:16,099
Uh, he has been indicted
for first-degree felony,

696
00:42:16,101 --> 00:42:18,935
uh, sexual assault of a child...

697
00:42:18,937 --> 00:42:22,372
[Reporter 1] Jeffs is charged with
felony bigamy, aggravated sexual assault,

698
00:42:22,374 --> 00:42:23,872
and assault.

699
00:42:23,874 --> 00:42:26,776
[Reporter 2] Jeffs is accused
of sexually assaulting two girls

700
00:42:26,778 --> 00:42:28,411
and could go to prison for life.

701
00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:32,248
They found, uh...

702
00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:33,717
You know, whatever...

703
00:42:34,786 --> 00:42:37,220
Circumstantial evidence
or whatever it was,

704
00:42:37,222 --> 00:42:40,256
that they had convicted...
Convicted him on.

705
00:42:40,258 --> 00:42:44,394
[Reporter 1] Damning evidence that Jeffs
had sexually abused a 12-year-old girl,

706
00:42:44,396 --> 00:42:48,298
and fathered a child with a
15-year-old he'd taken as a wife.

707
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:50,667
[Man 1] There was audio tapes,
there was forensic evidence...

708
00:42:50,669 --> 00:42:53,903
[Man 2] Toward the end of the tape,
after what sounds like heavy panting,

709
00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,906
Jeffs is heard saying, "in the
name of Jesus Christ, amen."

710
00:42:56,908 --> 00:43:00,176
To which the 12-year-old
echoed, "amen."

711
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,683
[Man 3] His DNA is
inside the DNA of a baby,

712
00:43:06,685 --> 00:43:08,151
inside of a child.

713
00:43:08,653 --> 00:43:10,286
That's it. We're done.

714
00:43:11,389 --> 00:43:14,157
Ms. Wall, what do you hope
will come out of this trial?

715
00:43:15,860 --> 00:43:18,261
I really do hope that
the truth can come out.

716
00:43:18,263 --> 00:43:20,430
That through this, we can...

717
00:43:20,432 --> 00:43:23,733
See for the public, but also for the
people within the flds community,

718
00:43:23,735 --> 00:43:29,839
that they can see the truths about what
Warren has done, and what he is capable of.

719
00:43:29,841 --> 00:43:32,408
I'm trying to think of some
other stuff they accused him of,

720
00:43:32,410 --> 00:43:35,011
I tried to kind of just
shut it out, because...

721
00:43:35,847 --> 00:43:38,348
I know him personally,
and I know that...

722
00:43:38,917 --> 00:43:40,550
That's... that's just not him.

723
00:43:40,552 --> 00:43:42,118
He didn't do it. [Laughs]

724
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,088
I... I personally don't
believe the stories.

725
00:43:45,557 --> 00:43:46,723
I've heard them.

726
00:43:46,725 --> 00:43:48,625
It's not that I
haven't heard them.

727
00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:50,560
It's that I don't... I knew him.

728
00:43:50,562 --> 00:43:53,396
And I... They're not true to me.

729
00:43:55,934 --> 00:43:58,801
[Man] Do you believe that they
could be true to other people?

730
00:43:58,803 --> 00:44:01,104
- Is that something you'd...
- Um...

731
00:44:03,575 --> 00:44:06,409
Other people may
feel that way, but I...

732
00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:08,745
I don't know, because
I honestly feel like

733
00:44:08,747 --> 00:44:10,387
that there were stories
that were made up.

734
00:44:11,383 --> 00:44:12,749
Just to make problems.

735
00:44:12,751 --> 00:44:14,851
[Reporter] A jury has sentenced
polygamous Warren Jeffs

736
00:44:14,853 --> 00:44:18,054
to life in prison,
plus 20 years.

737
00:44:18,723 --> 00:44:20,990
[Richter] It was
heartbreaking. It was hurtful.

738
00:44:20,992 --> 00:44:23,126
And the whole
people, we all felt it.

739
00:44:24,629 --> 00:44:27,263
He was important to us.

740
00:44:27,265 --> 00:44:28,831
[Voice shaking] I know
people don't like to hear that,

741
00:44:28,833 --> 00:44:32,301
because they... They don't
even know the person we know.

742
00:44:32,871 --> 00:44:37,407
They know... Some
fictional... character.

743
00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:41,978
Every time we get to
hear about him now...

744
00:44:42,847 --> 00:44:44,547
We just pray for him.

745
00:44:44,549 --> 00:44:48,317
[Somber instrumental
music playing]

746
00:45:03,435 --> 00:45:05,201
[Meehan] What... what...
Help me understand

747
00:45:05,203 --> 00:45:08,838
what "not worthy" meant
in the eyes of Warren Jeffs.

748
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,842
Not... didn't have your top button
buttoned up, your shirt tucked in...

749
00:45:12,844 --> 00:45:14,644
No, you just didn't believe.

750
00:45:14,646 --> 00:45:16,345
From a religious standpoint,

751
00:45:16,347 --> 00:45:18,815
maybe you disagreed
with a few points.

752
00:45:18,817 --> 00:45:22,685
And so, you weren't 100%...
submissive, I guess you would say.

753
00:45:22,687 --> 00:45:24,454
[Meehan] Well, at one time, uh,

754
00:45:24,456 --> 00:45:27,924
our idea behind this was
originally just a documentary.

755
00:45:27,926 --> 00:45:29,659
And we'd go out and
pitch it as a documentary,

756
00:45:29,661 --> 00:45:32,829
and we'd hear from
everybody, "this is fascinating.

757
00:45:32,831 --> 00:45:37,133
But... what's the ending? This happened
so many times, what's the ending?"

758
00:45:38,403 --> 00:45:40,002
So we kind of put it away.

759
00:45:46,644 --> 00:45:48,611
About a year or two after,

760
00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:50,947
I remember the...
Like it was yesterday.

761
00:45:50,949 --> 00:45:53,249
I got a phone call from
Ethan, and he said...

762
00:45:53,818 --> 00:45:55,852
"Parley's in trouble."

763
00:45:55,854 --> 00:45:59,222
My name's parley dutson.
That's spelled p-a-r-l-e-y.

764
00:46:01,593 --> 00:46:03,192
[Meehan] Didn't
sleep last night.

765
00:46:04,796 --> 00:46:07,363
Thinking of parley
and the visit, and I...

766
00:46:07,365 --> 00:46:10,032
I always feel this way, I always
get kinda sick to my stomach

767
00:46:10,034 --> 00:46:13,936
before I go there, because
it's... scary, to go into a prison.

768
00:46:17,709 --> 00:46:21,310
The story is... very sad.

769
00:46:23,014 --> 00:46:25,248
I guess everybody came
over to the house that night.

770
00:46:26,417 --> 00:46:29,752
And... parley was...

771
00:46:29,754 --> 00:46:34,357
Making, uh, mushroom tea, and
he was on every drug imaginable.

772
00:46:35,693 --> 00:46:37,627
And he was whacked
out of his mind.

773
00:46:37,629 --> 00:46:39,428
And at one point, I'm told,

774
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:42,064
that he was extremely paranoid.

775
00:46:42,066 --> 00:46:44,200
So he went into
his bedroom, and...

776
00:46:44,636 --> 00:46:45,768
Got a gun.

777
00:46:45,836 --> 00:46:48,604
[Parley on recording]
Well, I was already... [sighs]

778
00:46:48,606 --> 00:46:52,041
Pretty high from the mushrooms I
consumed, and the alcohol, but...

779
00:46:52,510 --> 00:46:54,577
It crept up on me pretty quick,

780
00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:56,379
and I started getting
paranoid holding the gun,

781
00:46:56,381 --> 00:46:58,414
and it all went down from there.

782
00:46:58,416 --> 00:47:01,184
Lot of the people laughed,
because he was supposedly...

783
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,187
Swinging the gun around.

784
00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:07,423
He had a girlfriend,
Kara Hopkins.

785
00:47:07,892 --> 00:47:09,959
She stayed.

786
00:47:11,996 --> 00:47:13,696
[Woman] Parley,
I know this is hard,

787
00:47:13,698 --> 00:47:15,631
but do you remember
firing the gun?

788
00:47:15,633 --> 00:47:18,100
Did you mean for it to go off?

789
00:47:18,102 --> 00:47:20,469
[Parley] I had no idea that
I was gonna kill somebody.

790
00:47:20,471 --> 00:47:22,405
I didn't even... Appreciate
the fact that I had

791
00:47:22,407 --> 00:47:24,340
a loaded firearm in
my hand, and that...

792
00:47:24,876 --> 00:47:28,077
I was gonna take
someone's life. [Sniffles]

793
00:47:28,646 --> 00:47:31,647
I wish people could see
that it was an accident.

794
00:47:31,649 --> 00:47:34,317
That I'd give my life
to bring hers back.

795
00:47:35,587 --> 00:47:39,388
[Meehan] Well, when parley
went to gunnison, I, um...

796
00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:45,394
Still had my producer
hat on. And... was still...

797
00:47:47,031 --> 00:47:48,564
"Doing research"
to go and visit him.

798
00:47:48,566 --> 00:47:52,001
And then I remember
watching him,

799
00:47:52,003 --> 00:47:55,404
as he walked through the
door, and seeing a man that...

800
00:47:56,641 --> 00:47:58,040
I knew.

801
00:47:59,177 --> 00:48:02,044
In a jumpsuit, and in shackles.

802
00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:04,780
And...

803
00:48:04,782 --> 00:48:07,750
All of a sudden,
something shifted.

804
00:48:07,752 --> 00:48:12,955
So this is a book that I keep
with all of parley's letters,

805
00:48:12,957 --> 00:48:17,026
I... wanna make sure
that I don't lose them.

806
00:48:17,528 --> 00:48:19,262
I realized...

807
00:48:22,901 --> 00:48:25,902
He wasn't just a subject
matter in a documentary.

808
00:48:25,904 --> 00:48:28,070
He was somebody that...

809
00:48:29,807 --> 00:48:30,807
I knew before.

810
00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:33,642
The incident.

811
00:48:33,644 --> 00:48:36,345
I knew he wasn't a monster. I
knew he did something terrible.

812
00:48:37,649 --> 00:48:39,582
And I kind of put that
producer hat away,

813
00:48:39,584 --> 00:48:40,783
and just sat there
and talked to him.

814
00:48:40,785 --> 00:48:43,986
And... furthermore, I sat
there and listened to him.

815
00:48:44,956 --> 00:48:47,390
[Reading] "You and a
few others are my friends.

816
00:48:48,626 --> 00:48:51,827
And with you guys, I'll be okay.

817
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:56,132
I'm moving forward in life,
not looking back too much."

818
00:48:56,801 --> 00:48:58,567
That was the moment

819
00:48:58,569 --> 00:49:01,537
when it all of the sudden
just became a friendship.

820
00:49:01,539 --> 00:49:04,340
He was, um,
somebody I cared about.

821
00:49:11,416 --> 00:49:13,416
[Richter] Uncle
Warren was in prison,

822
00:49:13,418 --> 00:49:15,618
and everybody is entitled

823
00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:17,753
to their story and their truths.

824
00:49:17,755 --> 00:49:19,655
I mean, my perception
of what happened

825
00:49:19,657 --> 00:49:21,324
is my perception.

826
00:49:21,326 --> 00:49:23,993
The next person
over has there's,

827
00:49:23,995 --> 00:49:26,862
and they may have left
our religion, and all that,

828
00:49:26,864 --> 00:49:28,197
and that's fine.

829
00:49:29,033 --> 00:49:30,633
We live in our world

830
00:49:30,635 --> 00:49:33,002
without having to rely
on the outside world,

831
00:49:33,004 --> 00:49:35,137
and that's how we want it.

832
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,607
Uh, we're still
trying to survive.

833
00:49:38,609 --> 00:49:40,509
Our prophet's in prison.

834
00:49:40,511 --> 00:49:42,845
And we're still going
to just stay focused

835
00:49:42,847 --> 00:49:45,081
on building and
blessing each other,

836
00:49:45,083 --> 00:49:47,717
and living as close
to god as we can,

837
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,052
and let the united order.

838
00:49:50,054 --> 00:49:55,324
And then they came
after us for the land.

839
00:49:58,629 --> 00:50:01,931
[Jeff] The trust, it's a very
controversial issue out here,

840
00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:03,499
depending on who
you sit down with.

841
00:50:03,501 --> 00:50:06,969
The uep trust came
from religious connotation,

842
00:50:06,971 --> 00:50:09,739
with, you know,
everybody working united

843
00:50:09,741 --> 00:50:11,640
to try to build up the trust.

844
00:50:11,642 --> 00:50:14,410
That, you know, if a
young man 18, 19, years old

845
00:50:14,412 --> 00:50:15,845
was ready to build a house,

846
00:50:15,847 --> 00:50:17,847
he would go to the
religious leaders and say

847
00:50:17,849 --> 00:50:18,748
"I'm ready to build."

848
00:50:18,750 --> 00:50:21,417
They would, they
would assign him a lot,

849
00:50:21,419 --> 00:50:24,787
and give him permission
to build his home on the lot.

850
00:50:24,789 --> 00:50:26,922
But he never got
ownership, there was never

851
00:50:26,924 --> 00:50:28,724
a transfer of deed, and in fact

852
00:50:28,726 --> 00:50:31,660
it was made quite clear
that as you built the home,

853
00:50:31,662 --> 00:50:35,698
the church, who controlled
the uep trust at the time, uh,

854
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:38,334
owned the homes, and
they had legal right to it.

855
00:50:39,437 --> 00:50:41,704
Ten years ago, you
know, Warren Jeffs

856
00:50:41,706 --> 00:50:44,507
was kicking families
out of this community

857
00:50:44,509 --> 00:50:46,409
by the hundreds
and the thousands.

858
00:50:46,411 --> 00:50:48,978
So when Warren Jeffs
was in legal trouble,

859
00:50:48,980 --> 00:50:51,647
what you saw was sort
of a reverse migration,

860
00:50:51,649 --> 00:50:52,748
you had all these people

861
00:50:52,750 --> 00:50:54,583
that had been kicked
out of their homes,

862
00:50:54,585 --> 00:50:56,952
say, "well, wait, I wanna
get my home back."

863
00:50:56,954 --> 00:50:59,688
And so people started
moving back into the community

864
00:50:59,690 --> 00:51:01,857
by the hundreds
and by the thousands.

865
00:51:01,859 --> 00:51:04,927
[Lori] What makes
this place so significant,

866
00:51:04,929 --> 00:51:07,897
to so many that
believe the way I do,

867
00:51:07,899 --> 00:51:10,099
is because when you dedicate

868
00:51:10,101 --> 00:51:12,134
or consecrate something
to heavenly father,

869
00:51:12,136 --> 00:51:14,470
you don't take it back.

870
00:51:14,472 --> 00:51:17,006
It's his, it's for keeps.

871
00:51:20,178 --> 00:51:22,378
[Draper] I think the
people who are saying,

872
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:25,748
"they have taken over our
town and they have done this,"

873
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:29,718
really suffer from a whole lack
of information in the first place.

874
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,021
Um, most of them do not know

875
00:51:32,023 --> 00:51:34,390
that Warren Jeffs is
why the trust ended up

876
00:51:34,392 --> 00:51:37,760
not being in the
control of the church.

877
00:51:37,762 --> 00:51:41,831
Well, in 1998, Warren Jeffs
decided to take the uep trust

878
00:51:41,833 --> 00:51:44,733
from a private trust
to a charitable trust.

879
00:51:44,735 --> 00:51:46,669
Why would Warren
Jeffs suddenly decide

880
00:51:46,671 --> 00:51:47,937
that it was a good
idea to transfer

881
00:51:47,939 --> 00:51:49,772
from a private trust
to a charitable trust?

882
00:51:49,774 --> 00:51:51,941
In a private trust you have
trustees and beneficiaries,

883
00:51:51,943 --> 00:51:54,410
the beneficiaries
have legal rights.

884
00:51:54,412 --> 00:51:55,478
In a charitable trust,

885
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,279
there's just a
charitable purpose,

886
00:51:57,281 --> 00:51:59,648
and the trustees can
do anything they want.

887
00:51:59,650 --> 00:52:02,718
So by changing it from a
property trust to a charitable trust,

888
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,521
there would be nobody
that he had to account to,

889
00:52:05,523 --> 00:52:07,957
except he failed to recognize
that, in the state of Utah,

890
00:52:07,959 --> 00:52:10,426
a charitable trust is
under the auspices

891
00:52:10,428 --> 00:52:12,061
and the direction of
the Attorney General.

892
00:52:12,063 --> 00:52:15,097
Which was really his fatal flaw.

893
00:52:15,566 --> 00:52:17,066
[Jeff] In the early 2000s,

894
00:52:17,068 --> 00:52:18,801
when Warren Jeffs
was in legal trouble,

895
00:52:18,803 --> 00:52:21,604
lawsuits had been filed
against the uep trust.

896
00:52:21,606 --> 00:52:23,539
No one was
protecting the uep trust.

897
00:52:23,541 --> 00:52:25,708
No one was responding
to the lawsuits,

898
00:52:25,710 --> 00:52:28,677
and, uh, and doing the
business that needed to be done.

899
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,813
So the state of Utah,
because it was now

900
00:52:30,815 --> 00:52:33,916
a charitable trust, stepped in.

901
00:52:33,918 --> 00:52:35,417
[Musser] The state
sees that he's liquidating

902
00:52:35,419 --> 00:52:37,987
all these assets without
anybody else knowing.

903
00:52:37,989 --> 00:52:39,388
That was the whole
reason it was set up,

904
00:52:39,390 --> 00:52:40,856
was to protect the assets.

905
00:52:40,858 --> 00:52:43,025
So that nobody could
ever liquidate them off,

906
00:52:43,027 --> 00:52:45,294
and sell the people's land.

907
00:52:46,197 --> 00:52:47,630
The people didn't know this,

908
00:52:47,632 --> 00:52:50,799
and a lot of them argue
today that it never happened.

909
00:52:50,801 --> 00:52:52,801
But you can, you can
go to the state of Utah,

910
00:52:52,803 --> 00:52:54,436
and you can get on,
it's all public records,

911
00:52:54,438 --> 00:52:58,007
and you can see where
he's liquidating assets off.

912
00:52:58,009 --> 00:53:00,509
And the state's like no, your not
just gonna take everybody's land.

913
00:53:00,511 --> 00:53:03,579
So they stepped in and
actually took over the trust.

914
00:53:03,581 --> 00:53:07,383
And since 2006, it's
stayed a charitable trust,

915
00:53:07,385 --> 00:53:10,753
but became a new version
of the charitable trust

916
00:53:10,755 --> 00:53:13,856
that was void
any religious test,

917
00:53:13,858 --> 00:53:16,025
or any religious purpose.

918
00:53:16,027 --> 00:53:18,961
And that's the trust, that
I'm now the director of

919
00:53:18,963 --> 00:53:20,029
is the reformed trust.

920
00:53:20,031 --> 00:53:23,065
The judge who was in charge

921
00:53:23,067 --> 00:53:24,733
of the probate
case for the trust,

922
00:53:24,735 --> 00:53:28,671
called me and asked me
to be on the uep trust board,

923
00:53:28,673 --> 00:53:31,240
which would bring me
back into the community.

924
00:53:31,242 --> 00:53:33,542
[Musser] And that
created so much tension

925
00:53:33,544 --> 00:53:35,277
with the people, even today.

926
00:53:35,279 --> 00:53:37,813
The trust is the enemy
now, it's the apostates.

927
00:53:37,815 --> 00:53:40,549
[Richter] Ex-flds,
which we call apostates,

928
00:53:40,551 --> 00:53:44,553
were now governing
over our land.

929
00:53:44,555 --> 00:53:48,591
The land that my
family gave to god,

930
00:53:48,593 --> 00:53:51,860
and now they think
they're god over it?

931
00:53:51,862 --> 00:53:55,431
[Lori] It felt like, we want your
town, we want your houses,

932
00:53:55,433 --> 00:53:57,099
we want your businesses even,

933
00:53:57,101 --> 00:53:59,368
we want everything...

934
00:53:59,904 --> 00:54:02,371
But you. We don't want you.

935
00:54:08,913 --> 00:54:12,581
[Glenn] So here we
are back in Colorado city

936
00:54:12,583 --> 00:54:15,217
when I was here 10
years ago, it was all flds.

937
00:54:16,721 --> 00:54:19,221
The town has changed, you can...

938
00:54:20,391 --> 00:54:22,992
See how much it's changed.

939
00:54:22,994 --> 00:54:25,060
You know, these buildings,
they just leave them...

940
00:54:25,630 --> 00:54:28,430
To rot.

941
00:54:28,432 --> 00:54:31,333
A lot of the buildings
are just abandoned.

942
00:54:32,703 --> 00:54:34,970
[Glenn] The interesting
thing about this documentary

943
00:54:34,972 --> 00:54:38,807
is that it started off as a
completely different film.

944
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:41,877
We were...

945
00:54:41,879 --> 00:54:44,980
Thinking we were doing
a story back in those days,

946
00:54:44,982 --> 00:54:46,348
on just the lost boys.

947
00:54:47,518 --> 00:54:51,020
And when I look
at parley's story,

948
00:54:51,856 --> 00:54:55,691
it was a big lesson
for me to try to...

949
00:54:55,693 --> 00:54:57,526
See people differently,

950
00:54:57,528 --> 00:54:59,962
and, and, I have to
say that his letters

951
00:54:59,964 --> 00:55:03,666
made me look at some of
the fld members differently

952
00:55:03,668 --> 00:55:05,834
I just realized my job was to

953
00:55:05,836 --> 00:55:07,536
just listen and
tell their stories,

954
00:55:07,538 --> 00:55:10,773
about a town divided.

955
00:55:10,775 --> 00:55:12,975
Knowing we were gonna
go in this new direction,

956
00:55:12,977 --> 00:55:15,811
everybody's like "you
need to talk to Christine,

957
00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:16,945
you need to talk to Christine!"

958
00:55:16,947 --> 00:55:18,647
Everybody I talk to says,

959
00:55:18,649 --> 00:55:20,115
"have you talked to Christine?"

960
00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:23,052
And I was like, who
the hell's Christine?

961
00:55:30,795 --> 00:55:34,129
Oh, they're ripe. Yay.

962
00:55:34,799 --> 00:55:36,932
My name is Christine Marie,

963
00:55:36,934 --> 00:55:39,935
and I moved to the
town of short creek.

964
00:55:40,771 --> 00:55:43,205
Like the garden of Eden.

965
00:55:45,743 --> 00:55:49,945
Coming here from the
city and Las Vegas lights,

966
00:55:50,748 --> 00:55:54,049
I get to walk out
my yard, and...

967
00:55:54,885 --> 00:55:56,618
Pick apricots from an orchard.

968
00:55:56,620 --> 00:56:00,122
It's like living in heaven.

969
00:56:00,124 --> 00:56:03,926
When we moved here,
we started seeing trailers

970
00:56:03,928 --> 00:56:05,694
heading out of town.

971
00:56:05,696 --> 00:56:08,731
One after another,
after another,

972
00:56:08,733 --> 00:56:10,999
semi-trucks, we
started taking pictures.

973
00:56:11,001 --> 00:56:12,701
What's going on here?

974
00:56:12,703 --> 00:56:14,303
It's like an entire
town is moving.

975
00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:22,144
Then we saw an eviction

976
00:56:22,947 --> 00:56:26,782
of elderly people
with oxygen tanks,

977
00:56:26,784 --> 00:56:30,085
handicapped people
in a wheelchair.

978
00:56:30,087 --> 00:56:33,555
People crying, just
mobbed around this house,

979
00:56:33,624 --> 00:56:37,893
and I took photos.

980
00:56:37,895 --> 00:56:41,397
[Katas] Who in the world, evicts a
grandmother with an oxygen tank?

981
00:56:41,399 --> 00:56:43,932
I'm sorry, I don't care
what the legal thing is,

982
00:56:43,934 --> 00:56:45,901
you don't do that
to a grandmother

983
00:56:45,903 --> 00:56:47,870
who is an American citizen.

984
00:56:47,872 --> 00:56:49,905
[Christine Marie]
My husband tolga

985
00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:53,709
posted some of the
photos of the evictions.

986
00:56:53,777 --> 00:56:56,044
And we got attacked.

987
00:56:56,046 --> 00:56:58,781
When the children are being
deprived of their education,

988
00:56:58,783 --> 00:57:00,749
and they're being
taken from their parents,

989
00:57:00,751 --> 00:57:01,817
and farmed out
from house to house,

990
00:57:01,819 --> 00:57:03,752
and abused and malnourished,

991
00:57:03,754 --> 00:57:05,888
where were you, calling
for the government, then?

992
00:57:05,890 --> 00:57:08,056
They could stay there, if
they signed a lease agreement

993
00:57:08,058 --> 00:57:08,924
and paid the back-taxes,

994
00:57:08,926 --> 00:57:11,026
just like anyone
else in america.

995
00:57:12,797 --> 00:57:15,264
Then I meet two flds ladies

996
00:57:15,866 --> 00:57:17,933
at a gas station.

997
00:57:17,935 --> 00:57:20,702
[Richter] Christine came
around the little island there,

998
00:57:20,704 --> 00:57:21,970
and she just says,

999
00:57:21,972 --> 00:57:25,073
"I'm so sorry, what's
happened to you."

1000
00:57:25,075 --> 00:57:28,811
I told them, "we
just got attacked

1001
00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:30,946
and slaughtered on Facebook

1002
00:57:30,948 --> 00:57:34,082
by people who live in this town,
because we posted these pictures

1003
00:57:34,084 --> 00:57:36,251
saying, 'how is this right?'"

1004
00:57:37,021 --> 00:57:38,186
it was an outsider,

1005
00:57:38,188 --> 00:57:41,590
it wasn't just us saying,
"help, they're hurting us!"

1006
00:57:41,592 --> 00:57:45,627
It was an outsider
saying, "what is going on?"

1007
00:57:45,629 --> 00:57:50,432
And that began the beginning
of my friendship with Norma.

1008
00:57:50,434 --> 00:57:54,403
[Richter] About a month
later, I was in my room,

1009
00:57:54,405 --> 00:58:00,976
and then I could hear the sound of
equipment and things being moved.

1010
00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:03,712
And I thought, "oh, no...

1011
00:58:03,714 --> 00:58:07,382
The business next
door is being evicted."

1012
00:58:07,384 --> 00:58:10,619
I just called her up, and
I says, "are you ready?

1013
00:58:10,621 --> 00:58:13,222
'Cause I'm coming to get ya."

1014
00:58:17,962 --> 00:58:19,061
She took us over
there, this is our first time

1015
00:58:19,063 --> 00:58:24,399
ever going into a building
with flds, and we saw

1016
00:58:24,401 --> 00:58:26,502
all this crazy stuff happening.

1017
00:58:26,504 --> 00:58:28,470
And they were
just running around

1018
00:58:28,472 --> 00:58:31,039
women and children everywhere,
just trying to save the food.

1019
00:58:31,041 --> 00:58:34,676
And, uh, it really
touched me, really...

1020
00:58:34,678 --> 00:58:38,180
[Katas] The flds
processing plant,

1021
00:58:38,182 --> 00:58:41,216
they have till midnight
to get the stuff out.

1022
00:58:42,553 --> 00:58:44,853
This is absolutely
insane and ridiculous.

1023
00:58:44,855 --> 00:58:50,025
We started live-streaming it, because
we couldn't believe what we were seeing.

1024
00:58:50,027 --> 00:58:51,994
[Katas] Can you explain
what's going on, Christine?

1025
00:58:51,996 --> 00:58:54,830
This is the processing
plant, they were just evicted.

1026
00:58:54,832 --> 00:58:56,798
This is where they
make their food,

1027
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,701
and, you know, they
store it for the future.

1028
00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:03,038
So it's taking away their
livelihood and their food.

1029
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,873
[Katas] This is the
United States of America,

1030
00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:07,109
stuff like this should
not take place.

1031
00:59:09,046 --> 00:59:11,747
The flds built this building,

1032
00:59:11,749 --> 00:59:14,750
they paid for this building,

1033
00:59:14,752 --> 00:59:17,286
and they're kicked
out of this building.

1034
00:59:18,522 --> 00:59:20,956
So whose side do I take?

1035
00:59:20,958 --> 00:59:24,960
The people who used to
live here, who were sent away

1036
00:59:24,962 --> 00:59:26,862
or kicked out,
deserve something.

1037
00:59:26,864 --> 00:59:28,397
Don't they?

1038
00:59:28,399 --> 00:59:30,365
But what about
the people still in?

1039
00:59:30,367 --> 00:59:31,700
They get nothing?

1040
00:59:31,702 --> 00:59:35,070
Whether we agree with it,
or not, they have rights too.

1041
00:59:35,806 --> 00:59:40,042
This town has an
invisible civil war.

1042
00:59:41,645 --> 00:59:44,379
That has been their
home and a safe haven.

1043
00:59:44,381 --> 00:59:46,381
Yeah, but now,
many flds families

1044
00:59:46,383 --> 00:59:49,284
being evicted from Colorado
city, Arizona and hilldale, Utah.

1045
00:59:49,286 --> 00:59:53,455
[Reporter some are saying these
evictions are a form of genocide.

1046
00:59:53,457 --> 00:59:59,761
Others believe it is a self-inflicted wound
brought on by following Warren Jeffs.

1047
00:59:59,763 --> 01:00:04,566
Representatives of the uep
trust say no one has to be evicted,

1048
01:00:04,568 --> 01:00:09,705
if only the flds families would sign
what's called an occupancy agreement.

1049
01:00:09,707 --> 01:00:11,607
[Landlord] I know. I work
with the trustees every day.

1050
01:00:11,609 --> 01:00:13,775
I know they have
absolutely no intention

1051
01:00:13,777 --> 01:00:16,979
of trying to drive a
certain group of people out

1052
01:00:16,981 --> 01:00:18,847
and invite another
group of people in.

1053
01:00:18,849 --> 01:00:20,849
The criteria's very neutral.

1054
01:00:20,851 --> 01:00:23,185
The courts require
three basic things:

1055
01:00:23,187 --> 01:00:26,288
The first is you have to have
some sort of an agreement.

1056
01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:29,791
And right now, there's a little
two-page occupancy agreement.

1057
01:00:29,793 --> 01:00:33,495
The second is the court has... Is
requiring a $100 occupancy fee.

1058
01:00:33,497 --> 01:00:37,232
And the third is, keep
your property taxes current.

1059
01:00:37,234 --> 01:00:41,403
[Christine Marie] I have tried to get
them to sign so they can save their houses.

1060
01:00:41,405 --> 01:00:44,606
Not one of them has budged.

1061
01:00:44,608 --> 01:00:48,477
We're not signing any
occupancy agreement. I will not.

1062
01:00:48,479 --> 01:00:53,749
To me, that is like telling me... Telling...
Everybody, the whole world and them,

1063
01:00:53,751 --> 01:00:56,785
I agree with you and I don't agree
with my convictions and my religion.

1064
01:00:56,787 --> 01:01:00,922
So why don't I just
sign away my religion?

1065
01:01:00,924 --> 01:01:05,894
[Christine Marie] They'd rather
lose $100 million in property

1066
01:01:05,896 --> 01:01:08,597
than violate their religion.

1067
01:01:08,599 --> 01:01:11,233
The worth in money
means nothing.

1068
01:01:11,235 --> 01:01:17,739
It's the worth in our family
and our soul and our... our faith.

1069
01:01:17,741 --> 01:01:20,709
[Jeff Barlow] This valley is
ripe for a really solid economy.

1070
01:01:20,711 --> 01:01:24,346
I mean, we're talking,
uh, 750 houses,

1071
01:01:24,348 --> 01:01:26,581
150 commercial properties.

1072
01:01:26,583 --> 01:01:30,385
I'm a capitalist. I believe in
order to have any good economy,

1073
01:01:30,387 --> 01:01:33,889
you have to have houses being sold
and purchased and for new businesses,

1074
01:01:33,891 --> 01:01:35,624
for new construction.

1075
01:01:35,626 --> 01:01:40,062
I think it's necessary. I think it's a
little painful but it's really necessary.

1076
01:01:40,164 --> 01:01:42,764
[Richter] So this
was the granaries.

1077
01:01:42,766 --> 01:01:47,636
These were some of the first items that
were taken from us, which only makes sense.

1078
01:01:47,638 --> 01:01:51,406
If you want to, uh, discourage a
people, go take their food source.

1079
01:01:51,408 --> 01:01:54,843
This is where we had a dairy.

1080
01:01:54,845 --> 01:01:59,147
And it's just weeds.

1081
01:01:59,149 --> 01:02:03,251
Why take something if
you're not going to use it?

1082
01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:06,021
It's hard to watch
them just take over.

1083
01:02:06,023 --> 01:02:09,991
It almost feels like it's an
infestation coming [Laughing] through.

1084
01:02:09,993 --> 01:02:12,894
Maybe I shouldn't
say it that way.

1085
01:02:12,896 --> 01:02:15,664
But that doesn't
sound very forgiving.

1086
01:02:15,666 --> 01:02:17,899
[Draper] We are
taking the walls down.

1087
01:02:17,901 --> 01:02:21,403
You know, that's one of the things
that I love about all of the buildings

1088
01:02:21,405 --> 01:02:22,804
that we're using and
that we're turning...

1089
01:02:22,806 --> 01:02:24,840
You know, taking a storehouse
and turning it into a school,

1090
01:02:24,842 --> 01:02:29,578
and taking that other warehouse and
turning it into a social services place,

1091
01:02:29,580 --> 01:02:31,913
is that we're taking down
these walls and we're saying,

1092
01:02:31,915 --> 01:02:34,082
hey, this building was
used to harm you before

1093
01:02:34,084 --> 01:02:36,985
and now we're gonna use
this building to heal you.

1094
01:02:37,287 --> 01:02:38,686
This is disgraceful.

1095
01:02:38,889 --> 01:02:42,390
It's good. We... We gotta get
rid of all of this out of our town.

1096
01:02:48,832 --> 01:02:50,799
[Richter] No, it's not.

1097
01:02:50,801 --> 01:02:54,336
You went and left your
family. You destroyed them.

1098
01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:57,172
[Katas] We kinda
start telling them

1099
01:02:57,174 --> 01:02:58,573
that the only protection
you guys have is the camera.

1100
01:02:58,575 --> 01:03:02,744
The camera will help you. I said,
you guys gotta film your evictions.

1101
01:03:02,746 --> 01:03:05,881
- What happened, Lori?
- When we got up here, they had the backhoe right here,

1102
01:03:05,883 --> 01:03:10,018
scraping the rest of the
foundation from the house.

1103
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:13,155
This was my great
grandfather Elmer's homestead.

1104
01:03:13,157 --> 01:03:16,958
That's just totally heartless.

1105
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,526
They don't need this.

1106
01:03:18,528 --> 01:03:21,630
[Filmmaker shouting] I am so upset. I
am so upset by the actions of this uep.

1107
01:03:21,632 --> 01:03:25,167
This is gonna sit here empty
while you destroyed another life.

1108
01:03:25,169 --> 01:03:27,536
[Katas] It wasn't just
an eviction of a building.

1109
01:03:27,538 --> 01:03:31,773
It's going into a culture, destroying
their food, destroying their schools.

1110
01:03:31,775 --> 01:03:34,476
- Their economics, their businesses.
- Their economics.

1111
01:03:34,478 --> 01:03:36,845
So it was very heart
wrenching to see.

1112
01:03:36,847 --> 01:03:39,314
[Christine Marie] America's
secret ethnic cleansing.

1113
01:03:39,316 --> 01:03:41,416
[Draper] Honestly?

1114
01:03:41,418 --> 01:03:44,219
I believe that there was a cultural
cleansing that happened there

1115
01:03:44,221 --> 01:03:45,753
and it was Warren
Jeffs that did it.

1116
01:03:45,755 --> 01:03:49,758
You know, the health aspects, the
poverty aspects, the lack of education,

1117
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,829
the early childhood traumas. The
social structure, the physical structure.

1118
01:03:53,831 --> 01:03:58,066
There's not anything about this
community that Warren Jeffs left intact.

1119
01:03:58,068 --> 01:04:02,037
I think there was a picture
of Warren Jeffs right here.

1120
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,405
What's happening now

1121
01:04:03,407 --> 01:04:06,408
is not a cultural
cleansing. [Laughing]

1122
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:08,543
What's happening
now is business.

1123
01:04:08,545 --> 01:04:11,613
You know, if they're
paying their property taxes,

1124
01:04:11,615 --> 01:04:14,449
if they've signed an
agreement with the trust,

1125
01:04:14,451 --> 01:04:16,484
they can continue to
live and live their religion

1126
01:04:16,486 --> 01:04:18,653
and they can worship
Warren Jeffs day and night.

1127
01:04:18,655 --> 01:04:21,623
This is your town, it's
not my town. It's our town.

1128
01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:24,893
Your grandpa and my
grandpa showed up here

1129
01:04:24,895 --> 01:04:27,362
to build this town for family,
protection, and freedom.

1130
01:04:27,364 --> 01:04:30,065
Not walls, bullshit and
what we're doing today.

1131
01:04:30,067 --> 01:04:33,802
I'm telling you, they'd be pissed
off today if they knew what we did.

1132
01:04:33,804 --> 01:04:36,504
Because we created
everything they didn't want.

1133
01:04:36,506 --> 01:04:38,907
It's the same damn
piece of earth, dude.

1134
01:04:38,909 --> 01:04:42,110
It's just two miles. This
land doesn't care about us.

1135
01:04:42,112 --> 01:04:44,613
It never has. It never will. It's
gonna be here when I'm gone.

1136
01:04:44,615 --> 01:04:47,282
We define it.

1137
01:04:53,490 --> 01:04:56,424
You gotta realize I've
been gone for 15 years.

1138
01:04:56,426 --> 01:05:00,528
I had set foot in this town maybe
three times in that whole 15 years,

1139
01:05:00,530 --> 01:05:03,832
had just started my second
company trying to be successful.

1140
01:05:03,834 --> 01:05:07,569
And was so sick with the
disease that I was born with

1141
01:05:07,571 --> 01:05:11,006
and a lot of other diseases
it was compounding it.

1142
01:05:11,008 --> 01:05:15,043
So I was born with a disease called milroy's
and it's kind of a really rare disease

1143
01:05:15,045 --> 01:05:17,913
and it's... What it does is my
lymph system in my body don't work.

1144
01:05:17,915 --> 01:05:22,951
And then with my disease, it'll
attack my big organs, my main organs,

1145
01:05:22,953 --> 01:05:26,454
my... sometimes they hit
in my heart, my kidneys,

1146
01:05:26,456 --> 01:05:28,056
and it leaves a
lot of scar tissue.

1147
01:05:28,058 --> 01:05:32,127
It's destroyed my blood
veins, it's destroyed my bones.

1148
01:05:32,129 --> 01:05:34,129
It's destroyed my circulation.

1149
01:05:34,131 --> 01:05:37,232
I spent half my life in the hospital.
I spent half my life in medical care.

1150
01:05:37,234 --> 01:05:40,802
I finally got successful in my business
and lost it because of my health issues,

1151
01:05:40,804 --> 01:05:44,973
it felt just like leaving the crick again
and just having everything taken away.

1152
01:05:44,975 --> 01:05:48,243
And I'm living in the
garage going through chemo,

1153
01:05:48,245 --> 01:05:49,678
my wife's pregnant on bed rest.

1154
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,781
Here I am, I'm gonna
die in a few months.

1155
01:05:52,783 --> 01:05:55,884
I'm just making peace,
trying to do the best I can with,

1156
01:05:55,886 --> 01:05:59,387
you know, what the
time I had left, really.

1157
01:05:59,389 --> 01:06:01,856
And at that time, after the
state had taken the trust,

1158
01:06:01,858 --> 01:06:07,162
there was a process and they said
that anybody that was born out here

1159
01:06:07,164 --> 01:06:09,531
had a right to come
out and claim a house.

1160
01:06:09,533 --> 01:06:11,566
To come home.

1161
01:06:11,568 --> 01:06:14,302
I just remember coming out
here and like, man, this town just...

1162
01:06:14,304 --> 01:06:17,605
Looks just like I feel. It's
been just screwed, just...

1163
01:06:17,607 --> 01:06:21,643
Drove past my dad's old house where
I grew up and there was nobody there.

1164
01:06:21,645 --> 01:06:25,213
It was empty and just run
down. I'm like, well, hell,

1165
01:06:25,215 --> 01:06:29,017
I don't wanna take it from anybody,
but if nobody's in there, I'm homeless.

1166
01:06:29,019 --> 01:06:31,820
I'm sitting in the garage down
in Saint George, gonna die.

1167
01:06:31,822 --> 01:06:34,456
Let's come out and get you a house and
get you and the kids somewhere settled

1168
01:06:34,458 --> 01:06:36,725
and I'll come home
and die, and you...

1169
01:06:36,727 --> 01:06:40,428
You'll get a place at least out
of the whole shitty part of my life,

1170
01:06:40,430 --> 01:06:43,631
at least something good
will come up out of it.

1171
01:06:43,633 --> 01:06:46,935
You gotta realize, I'm an
apostate that came back

1172
01:06:46,937 --> 01:06:48,870
to the motherland of
where all this started.

1173
01:06:48,872 --> 01:06:51,206
It was just surreal.

1174
01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:54,075
You're home but
you're not home, kind of.

1175
01:06:54,077 --> 01:06:56,344
You know, it's like... Don't
know if this is really happening.

1176
01:06:56,346 --> 01:06:58,146
You fantasize
this all your life,

1177
01:06:58,148 --> 01:07:00,682
'cause this town was such
an amazing place to grow up.

1178
01:07:00,684 --> 01:07:03,818
It didn't need to be dead.
These walls weren't here.

1179
01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:06,354
I didn't grow up with these
stupid-ass walls everywhere.

1180
01:07:06,356 --> 01:07:08,690
Warren Jeffs was
here for six years.

1181
01:07:08,692 --> 01:07:13,261
He doesn't get to define
us. It's our story now.

1182
01:07:14,431 --> 01:07:18,700
[Draper] So when I first
started going back to town,

1183
01:07:18,702 --> 01:07:21,736
uh, after I was put
on the trust board,

1184
01:07:21,738 --> 01:07:24,906
we set down and
sketched out our strategy.

1185
01:07:24,908 --> 01:07:27,542
We can blame people and we
can say we shoulda coulda woulda,

1186
01:07:27,544 --> 01:07:29,711
but we're here now.

1187
01:07:29,713 --> 01:07:33,415
I don't care who got us
here. It's time for us to just fix it

1188
01:07:33,417 --> 01:07:36,618
and own it and say this
does not work anymore.

1189
01:07:36,620 --> 01:07:39,120
This train track that we're on?

1190
01:07:39,122 --> 01:07:40,488
People need to stop
putting trains on this track.

1191
01:07:40,490 --> 01:07:42,991
[Draper] At that time,

1192
01:07:42,993 --> 01:07:45,627
whoever was in charge of the
church would appoint city council.

1193
01:07:45,629 --> 01:07:48,830
And my very first public
meeting with the trust,

1194
01:07:48,832 --> 01:07:51,599
I started telling
people, register to vote.

1195
01:07:51,601 --> 01:07:56,371
Candidates in an flds
community are preparing

1196
01:07:56,373 --> 01:07:58,773
for one of the biggest political
elections in hildale in years.

1197
01:07:58,775 --> 01:08:01,076
Now, I never knew what
politics... I knew that the pol...

1198
01:08:01,078 --> 01:08:03,678
That the government was
bad. I could tell you that.

1199
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,513
Your local government

1200
01:08:05,515 --> 01:08:08,783
is the most powerful form of
government in the United States.

1201
01:08:08,785 --> 01:08:10,685
It's your local government,
if it's done correctly.

1202
01:08:10,687 --> 01:08:12,454
I didn't know any of this.

1203
01:08:12,456 --> 01:08:17,826
I come home and go, we just want
a city that represents the people.

1204
01:08:17,828 --> 01:08:24,632
[Draper] Donia, my best friend and
sister-in-law, chose to run as mayor,

1205
01:08:24,634 --> 01:08:26,568
and it was such an
incredible choice,

1206
01:08:26,570 --> 01:08:33,374
but the symbolism of the
choice was beyond incredible.

1207
01:08:33,376 --> 01:08:36,578
[Reporter] Donia jessop was a
fundamentalist latter day Saint.

1208
01:08:36,580 --> 01:08:40,615
When she left the flds sect,
she made the tough decision

1209
01:08:40,617 --> 01:08:45,286
to leave behind the town and the
people she grew up with and loved.

1210
01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:47,922
But then she returned
as an outsider.

1211
01:08:47,924 --> 01:08:50,492
[Anchor 3 on TV] Donia jessop
says when she was in the flds church,

1212
01:08:50,494 --> 01:08:52,861
she was told who to vote for.

1213
01:08:52,863 --> 01:08:55,663
I know. [Laughing] It's so
UN-American and unconstitutional.

1214
01:08:55,665 --> 01:08:57,365
It's like, how does this
happen here in america?

1215
01:08:57,367 --> 01:08:59,100
But that's what's
been happening.

1216
01:08:59,102 --> 01:09:01,469
So that is the change that i'm
talking about that needs made.

1217
01:09:01,471 --> 01:09:02,670
I have a lot of support.

1218
01:09:02,672 --> 01:09:05,473
I have definitely some
who are not in support.

1219
01:09:05,475 --> 01:09:09,244
Behind me is a vandalized
campaign poster.

1220
01:09:09,246 --> 01:09:11,646
There are a lot of 'em in
this town, and this election,

1221
01:09:11,648 --> 01:09:15,083
it could be one for the
hildale history books.

1222
01:09:17,687 --> 01:09:21,055
[Puppet] Oh,
there's the alphabet.

1223
01:09:21,057 --> 01:09:23,217
[Christine Marie] Yeah,
there's the alphabet, all right.

1224
01:09:23,493 --> 01:09:25,760
I wanna eat a "a."

1225
01:09:25,762 --> 01:09:29,831
Can you find him an "a"?
Can you feed him an "a"?

1226
01:09:29,833 --> 01:09:34,102
[Gasping] Okay, pull it out.
Feed it to him. [Laughing]

1227
01:09:35,005 --> 01:09:37,906
That was really good. Yummy.

1228
01:09:37,908 --> 01:09:39,240
All right, can I have a...

1229
01:09:39,242 --> 01:09:43,211
[Christine Marie] In this town,
there has to be give and take.

1230
01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:48,983
But it should not require the
flds to violate what they believe.

1231
01:09:48,985 --> 01:09:52,353
People say, you're enabling
them, they're in a dangerous cult.

1232
01:09:52,355 --> 01:09:55,490
Yeah. I want a "s."

1233
01:09:55,492 --> 01:09:58,660
[Christine Marie] I just wanna
promote education and empowerment.

1234
01:09:58,662 --> 01:10:01,763
That's not enabling
them to stay in harm.

1235
01:10:01,765 --> 01:10:04,065
That's giving them options.

1236
01:10:04,968 --> 01:10:09,103
I keep pushing the limits
for the flds and for the trust.

1237
01:10:09,105 --> 01:10:14,075
We got this
crappy little building

1238
01:10:14,778 --> 01:10:16,444
as a very first "reclaim."

1239
01:10:16,446 --> 01:10:19,647
It was sort of a test
to see if the trust

1240
01:10:19,649 --> 01:10:23,384
would let me kind of pull a
building out of the eviction

1241
01:10:23,386 --> 01:10:27,488
and repurpose it for
the flds. It worked.

1242
01:10:27,490 --> 01:10:31,659
The flds all pitched in to
remodel it and restore it,

1243
01:10:31,661 --> 01:10:36,331
and it... To me it seemed symbolic of
what's happening in the town in some ways.

1244
01:10:36,633 --> 01:10:39,701
My goal is to see
them all come together,

1245
01:10:39,703 --> 01:10:45,406
not to violate their religion and
start big happy family reunions.

1246
01:10:45,408 --> 01:10:49,911
I mean, I'd love to see
that, but I don't expect that.

1247
01:10:49,913 --> 01:10:52,847
[Christine Marie] But at least if
they can show mutual respect

1248
01:10:52,915 --> 01:10:54,415
and start doing

1249
01:10:54,417 --> 01:10:57,085
communications of
love here and there.

1250
01:10:57,721 --> 01:10:58,820
You know.

1251
01:10:58,822 --> 01:11:00,788
If you went to St. George,

1252
01:11:00,790 --> 01:11:02,924
cedar city to you know, London.

1253
01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:05,059
Had to go to another country.

1254
01:11:05,061 --> 01:11:10,031
And, and you see
kids and, and mothers

1255
01:11:10,033 --> 01:11:12,767
who are, are being displaced

1256
01:11:12,802 --> 01:11:16,070
that don't have anywhere to go.

1257
01:11:16,072 --> 01:11:18,940
The whole town, community
would be running to help them.

1258
01:11:18,942 --> 01:11:20,241
[Christine Marie] Right.

1259
01:11:20,243 --> 01:11:21,709
And I think here we have

1260
01:11:21,711 --> 01:11:24,412
a really unique
misunderstanding.

1261
01:11:24,414 --> 01:11:26,114
The stories out there are like,

1262
01:11:26,116 --> 01:11:28,249
"these people will
never get along it's

1263
01:11:28,752 --> 01:11:29,917
you know, never ever,"

1264
01:11:29,919 --> 01:11:31,019
but it's not true.

1265
01:11:31,021 --> 01:11:32,420
I see something different.

1266
01:11:33,823 --> 01:11:34,889
I see steps.

1267
01:11:34,891 --> 01:11:37,091
I can stand up right now,

1268
01:11:37,394 --> 01:11:39,160
and I can walk over here

1269
01:11:40,096 --> 01:11:41,796
and I can give her a hug.

1270
01:11:41,798 --> 01:11:42,964
[Katas] Aww.

1271
01:11:43,233 --> 01:11:44,332
Just like that.

1272
01:11:45,402 --> 01:11:46,402
And you know

1273
01:11:46,636 --> 01:11:48,002
that before

1274
01:11:48,004 --> 01:11:50,672
you guys came into
that town, this town

1275
01:11:50,674 --> 01:11:53,074
that was impossible.
[Katas] Yeah.

1276
01:11:53,076 --> 01:11:54,976
[Christine Marie] It's
got to take somebody

1277
01:11:54,978 --> 01:11:56,144
who is never flds

1278
01:11:56,146 --> 01:11:57,345
or ex-flds,

1279
01:11:57,714 --> 01:11:59,080
like me.

1280
01:12:01,685 --> 01:12:03,885
I grew up in a small
town in Michigan.

1281
01:12:03,887 --> 01:12:05,753
My parents were against it,

1282
01:12:05,755 --> 01:12:08,423
but on my 18th
birthday I was baptized.

1283
01:12:09,059 --> 01:12:10,558
So I became mormon

1284
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,394
and it was the
happiest day of my life.

1285
01:12:13,396 --> 01:12:15,663
Here we are at the
children's art festival

1286
01:12:15,665 --> 01:12:17,398
and I have pat here, "hi, pat."

1287
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,000
- Hi.
- And what has...

1288
01:12:19,002 --> 01:12:21,736
[Christine Marie] So I became
what's known as a Molly mormon.

1289
01:12:21,738 --> 01:12:24,739
Which is the person who tries
to live Mormonism perfectly.

1290
01:12:24,741 --> 01:12:26,841
- You know our...
- Puppet?

1291
01:12:26,843 --> 01:12:28,776
- Yeah.
- Did you say puppet?

1292
01:12:28,778 --> 01:12:30,812
And when I went to college

1293
01:12:30,814 --> 01:12:32,380
I majored in children's theater.

1294
01:12:32,849 --> 01:12:34,215
S o I created this

1295
01:12:34,517 --> 01:12:36,718
interactive TV show.

1296
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,087
I was developing my
children's characters,

1297
01:12:39,089 --> 01:12:41,055
my puppet dream.

1298
01:12:41,157 --> 01:12:43,024
And then,

1299
01:12:43,793 --> 01:12:45,226
I met somebody,

1300
01:12:46,329 --> 01:12:49,630
you know, he turned
into Mr. Charming

1301
01:12:49,632 --> 01:12:51,833
started courting me,

1302
01:12:51,835 --> 01:12:54,369
and now he could
tell me the truth.

1303
01:12:56,005 --> 01:12:57,739
The truth was

1304
01:12:57,741 --> 01:13:00,408
that he had translated

1305
01:13:00,410 --> 01:13:02,043
the sealed portion

1306
01:13:02,111 --> 01:13:03,678
of the book of mormon.

1307
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,813
In the book of mormon,
there's a prophecy

1308
01:13:05,815 --> 01:13:08,850
that in the last days, the
rest of the book of mormon,

1309
01:13:08,852 --> 01:13:10,885
which has been engraved
on these gold plates,

1310
01:13:10,887 --> 01:13:11,986
will come forward.

1311
01:13:11,988 --> 01:13:13,955
All mormons believe this.

1312
01:13:13,957 --> 01:13:16,090
So he sent me eight chapters.

1313
01:13:16,426 --> 01:13:17,692
It felt the same to me

1314
01:13:17,694 --> 01:13:19,227
as the book of mormon

1315
01:13:19,229 --> 01:13:23,030
that I loved, and I studied,
and I read 32 times.

1316
01:13:23,767 --> 01:13:24,966
I decided,

1317
01:13:24,968 --> 01:13:25,967
he was telling me the truth

1318
01:13:25,969 --> 01:13:27,335
and that made him

1319
01:13:27,904 --> 01:13:30,071
the new Joseph Smith.

1320
01:13:30,974 --> 01:13:33,241
My dearest sister
and fellow servants

1321
01:13:33,877 --> 01:13:35,209
I received your letter

1322
01:13:35,211 --> 01:13:36,778
on the sixth of may which was

1323
01:13:36,780 --> 01:13:38,746
sent from your indicated address

1324
01:13:38,748 --> 01:13:40,381
at a downtown hotel

1325
01:13:40,383 --> 01:13:42,750
ran exclusively
for the homeless.

1326
01:13:42,752 --> 01:13:45,887
Downtrodden, sick, afflicted
and needy of our society

1327
01:13:45,889 --> 01:13:48,055
and I ask you my dear sister,

1328
01:13:48,057 --> 01:13:49,924
"where else would
a true disciple

1329
01:13:49,926 --> 01:13:51,392
of Christ be found?"

1330
01:13:52,395 --> 01:13:54,962
Not only was he the new prophet

1331
01:13:55,965 --> 01:13:57,331
but I had to pass lots of tests.

1332
01:14:00,703 --> 01:14:02,370
I had to live among
the poor and needy.

1333
01:14:03,907 --> 01:14:05,706
When men got out of prison

1334
01:14:05,708 --> 01:14:08,242
they went to this like,
halfway house, resident hotel.

1335
01:14:08,945 --> 01:14:10,344
That's where I had to be.

1336
01:14:11,047 --> 01:14:12,246
This is

1337
01:14:12,749 --> 01:14:14,182
how decrepit

1338
01:14:15,084 --> 01:14:17,185
the walls were
and the floors were.

1339
01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:19,687
This is the toilet.

1340
01:14:19,689 --> 01:14:23,124
It was just like out of
an... Out of a horror movie.

1341
01:14:23,860 --> 01:14:25,860
It was filled with ex-cons,

1342
01:14:25,862 --> 01:14:27,428
murderers, rapists

1343
01:14:29,098 --> 01:14:30,298
and I

1344
01:14:30,834 --> 01:14:32,133
was an innocent girl

1345
01:14:32,135 --> 01:14:34,435
from the country
who had lived a...

1346
01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:37,038
Wholesome mormon life

1347
01:14:37,807 --> 01:14:38,973
and I was like

1348
01:14:39,175 --> 01:14:41,042
a lamb among wolves.

1349
01:14:42,212 --> 01:14:45,346
I was raped,

1350
01:14:48,751 --> 01:14:49,751
I was beaten,

1351
01:14:50,987 --> 01:14:52,119
I was robbed,

1352
01:14:54,791 --> 01:14:56,023
I was trafficked.

1353
01:14:57,026 --> 01:14:59,093
So I found one picture of me

1354
01:15:01,865 --> 01:15:04,265
that was provided to

1355
01:15:04,267 --> 01:15:05,433
my prophet

1356
01:15:05,902 --> 01:15:07,235
as proof.

1357
01:15:08,204 --> 01:15:11,138
This... the photo
was taken by the man

1358
01:15:11,407 --> 01:15:12,407
who had just

1359
01:15:12,942 --> 01:15:14,041
used me.

1360
01:15:16,012 --> 01:15:17,311
To think...

1361
01:15:19,849 --> 01:15:22,316
It was all just a big fat hoax.

1362
01:15:24,854 --> 01:15:26,854
I have something
that finding proof

1363
01:15:26,856 --> 01:15:28,322
can mean without
a shadow of a doubt.

1364
01:15:28,925 --> 01:15:30,091
What religion

1365
01:15:30,460 --> 01:15:31,525
can do to people

1366
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:32,960
and Julie might have
mentioned it to you.

1367
01:15:32,962 --> 01:15:35,296
I wrote the sealed portion
of the book of mormon

1368
01:15:36,599 --> 01:15:38,165
and I presented it to mormons

1369
01:15:38,735 --> 01:15:40,968
who are more fanatical than you,

1370
01:15:42,005 --> 01:15:43,738
and they took it
hook, line, and sinker.

1371
01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:45,339
Thought I had the gold plates.

1372
01:15:47,911 --> 01:15:50,144
And so right there
I proved to myself

1373
01:15:50,146 --> 01:15:52,613
that need a man to
know what he was doing

1374
01:15:52,615 --> 01:15:54,415
could write scripture

1375
01:15:54,417 --> 01:15:56,050
when he had no
inspiration at all

1376
01:15:56,052 --> 01:15:57,885
just knew what
people wanted to hear.

1377
01:15:57,887 --> 01:15:58,819
Write the scripture

1378
01:15:58,821 --> 01:15:59,821
present it as such

1379
01:15:59,956 --> 01:16:01,789
have these people pray about it

1380
01:16:01,791 --> 01:16:02,924
and accept it.

1381
01:16:02,926 --> 01:16:04,825
Well you laugh, I'm sorry...

1382
01:16:04,827 --> 01:16:06,467
[Christine Marie] The
prophet was a fraud,

1383
01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:08,030
he was an atheist,

1384
01:16:08,898 --> 01:16:11,999
and it was just
a big experiment.

1385
01:16:12,402 --> 01:16:14,235
And when they told me this

1386
01:16:14,971 --> 01:16:16,170
I just was rocking,

1387
01:16:16,639 --> 01:16:17,972
and wailing.

1388
01:16:17,974 --> 01:16:20,875
Because it was like my
life flashed before my eyes.

1389
01:16:20,877 --> 01:16:23,811
Like just rocking and I screamed

1390
01:16:23,813 --> 01:16:28,316
"why?" you know, "why
wouldn't, why didn't you..."

1391
01:16:29,652 --> 01:16:31,218
Why didn't you help me?

1392
01:16:34,424 --> 01:16:36,991
I was psychologically fractured,

1393
01:16:37,059 --> 01:16:38,826
and I just wanted to get a job

1394
01:16:38,828 --> 01:16:40,294
and I wanted to get out.

1395
01:16:40,730 --> 01:16:41,996
The church didn't help me,

1396
01:16:41,998 --> 01:16:44,098
the state of Utah
didn't help me,

1397
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,067
law enforcement didn't help me.

1398
01:16:46,402 --> 01:16:47,402
They said,

1399
01:16:49,172 --> 01:16:50,404
"you believed him?

1400
01:16:50,406 --> 01:16:51,406
You deserved it."

1401
01:16:53,810 --> 01:16:55,209
S o that's why I'm here.

1402
01:16:56,179 --> 01:16:58,079
When I help the flds,

1403
01:16:59,048 --> 01:17:00,281
my goal

1404
01:17:00,283 --> 01:17:02,016
is harm reduction

1405
01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:04,251
and empowerment.

1406
01:17:05,588 --> 01:17:09,023
Because I know what it's like

1407
01:17:09,993 --> 01:17:11,993
to believe in something
that other people

1408
01:17:11,995 --> 01:17:13,294
ridicule you for.

1409
01:17:13,930 --> 01:17:15,096
And as a result,

1410
01:17:15,431 --> 01:17:17,031
you don't get any help.

1411
01:17:27,844 --> 01:17:29,143
[Meehan] When I first came here

1412
01:17:29,445 --> 01:17:30,611
we drove by these homes

1413
01:17:30,613 --> 01:17:33,280
and tried to... Kind of,
look behind the gates.

1414
01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:35,783
We got shots of kids
running away from us

1415
01:17:35,785 --> 01:17:37,118
and screaming at us

1416
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,220
and I didn't regret that because

1417
01:17:40,423 --> 01:17:41,856
I look back now

1418
01:17:41,858 --> 01:17:44,792
and those kids weren't
asking for that life.

1419
01:17:44,794 --> 01:17:46,861
But yet, here I was

1420
01:17:46,863 --> 01:17:48,596
and CNN and everybody else

1421
01:17:48,598 --> 01:17:50,731
doing the same thing.

1422
01:17:50,733 --> 01:17:53,968
[Meehan] I looked at
these people as the enemy.

1423
01:17:55,505 --> 01:17:57,838
It has totally changed.

1424
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:58,806
[Meehan] When you
and I started working on

1425
01:17:58,808 --> 01:18:00,374
this documentary again

1426
01:18:01,978 --> 01:18:05,012
yes, everybody
knows Colorado city,

1427
01:18:05,815 --> 01:18:07,715
the flds, and Warren Jeffs.

1428
01:18:07,717 --> 01:18:10,651
But nobody is telling
this story from both sides.

1429
01:18:10,653 --> 01:18:12,586
I never thought I would ever

1430
01:18:12,588 --> 01:18:14,689
play with these
kids, be with their...

1431
01:18:14,691 --> 01:18:17,158
Their mothers and their fathers.

1432
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,027
They are pretty amazing people.

1433
01:18:20,396 --> 01:18:22,797
On a personal level

1434
01:18:22,799 --> 01:18:24,632
they have really welcomed
me with open arms.

1435
01:18:24,634 --> 01:18:26,133
[Children chattering]

1436
01:18:26,135 --> 01:18:27,635
- Oh, my gosh. Let me...
- Please stand.

1437
01:18:27,637 --> 01:18:28,769
[Boy] You can sit on that.

1438
01:18:28,771 --> 01:18:30,371
- [Meehan] Did you make that?
- Yeah, from scratch.

1439
01:18:30,373 --> 01:18:31,405
- [Girl] I want presents.
- [Meehan] Oh.

1440
01:18:31,407 --> 01:18:32,973
- Can I open them?
- Go ahead.

1441
01:18:32,975 --> 01:18:34,875
[Meehan] These kids
gave me these letters.

1442
01:18:34,877 --> 01:18:35,843
A lot of artwork,

1443
01:18:35,845 --> 01:18:37,845
that I'll always treasure.

1444
01:18:37,847 --> 01:18:38,946
[Meehan reading]
Be happy, keep sweet.

1445
01:18:38,948 --> 01:18:40,314
You gave me hair.

1446
01:18:41,117 --> 01:18:42,383
I'm so happy you gave me hair.

1447
01:18:42,785 --> 01:18:43,851
Rosa may.

1448
01:18:43,853 --> 01:18:45,753
You do have a little teeny bit.

1449
01:18:45,755 --> 01:18:47,154
[Chuckles softly] Aw, thank you.

1450
01:18:47,657 --> 01:18:49,156
[Meehan] Oh, wow.

1451
01:18:49,158 --> 01:18:51,358
[Meehan] Little letters,
like "thank you for

1452
01:18:52,695 --> 01:18:54,128
being kind to us."

1453
01:18:56,099 --> 01:18:58,065
Who couldn't be
kind to those kids?

1454
01:18:58,067 --> 01:19:00,101
[Girl] I think you love us.

1455
01:19:00,103 --> 01:19:01,235
[Meehan] Yes.

1456
01:19:01,604 --> 01:19:02,770
Bff forever.

1457
01:19:02,772 --> 01:19:04,071
Aw, these are really wonderful.

1458
01:19:04,073 --> 01:19:05,539
Yeah, because you're my bff.

1459
01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:06,541
[Meehan] That's right.

1460
01:19:07,810 --> 01:19:08,943
You see these
kids too, and you...

1461
01:19:08,945 --> 01:19:10,811
You, you have to say,

1462
01:19:10,813 --> 01:19:13,047
"they didn't choose this life.

1463
01:19:13,816 --> 01:19:16,083
They were born into it."

1464
01:19:17,420 --> 01:19:19,520
And you can't help,
but look at these children

1465
01:19:19,522 --> 01:19:20,954
and not think
about their future.

1466
01:19:29,899 --> 01:19:32,399
[Musser] It's like going through a
haunted house where every room,

1467
01:19:32,401 --> 01:19:34,201
kind of had its own
story of growing up.

1468
01:19:34,904 --> 01:19:36,403
It's like a time machine in here

1469
01:19:36,405 --> 01:19:37,905
coming back in here again after

1470
01:19:37,907 --> 01:19:39,373
19 years.

1471
01:19:40,510 --> 01:19:42,076
This is when they
moved into town

1472
01:19:42,078 --> 01:19:44,145
and you can see John
y. Barlow and uncle Roy

1473
01:19:44,147 --> 01:19:45,312
uniting the people.

1474
01:19:47,416 --> 01:19:48,516
We sat here,

1475
01:19:49,085 --> 01:19:50,618
and when I first
started going to church

1476
01:19:50,620 --> 01:19:52,920
this stage was always full

1477
01:19:52,922 --> 01:19:55,356
of the patriarchs and the
people that built this town.

1478
01:19:55,892 --> 01:19:57,391
And over the time

1479
01:19:57,393 --> 01:19:58,659
it got to where there was just

1480
01:19:58,661 --> 01:20:01,762
Warren up there, and
his counselors in the end.

1481
01:20:01,764 --> 01:20:03,631
He literally just of
rid of all the influence

1482
01:20:03,633 --> 01:20:04,899
all the patriarchs,

1483
01:20:04,901 --> 01:20:07,835
all the people that
really built this town

1484
01:20:07,837 --> 01:20:09,770
he slowly got rid
of off of that stage.

1485
01:20:09,772 --> 01:20:11,405
I mean you can literally watch

1486
01:20:11,407 --> 01:20:13,674
watch our downfall from a stage.

1487
01:20:13,676 --> 01:20:15,109
If you look at it like that.

1488
01:20:21,984 --> 01:20:22,983
[Christine Marie] Today this

1489
01:20:22,985 --> 01:20:25,085
chapel has been opened up

1490
01:20:25,087 --> 01:20:27,021
to the public
for the first time.

1491
01:20:27,690 --> 01:20:29,824
Probably in forever

1492
01:20:29,826 --> 01:20:31,992
and they're letting
the people walk

1493
01:20:31,994 --> 01:20:33,093
through the building.

1494
01:20:33,262 --> 01:20:34,262
So they can

1495
01:20:34,931 --> 01:20:36,063
experience it,

1496
01:20:36,065 --> 01:20:37,765
see it one last time

1497
01:20:37,767 --> 01:20:38,699
before they remodel it,

1498
01:20:38,701 --> 01:20:39,967
and turn it into

1499
01:20:39,969 --> 01:20:42,803
a non-religious
community center.

1500
01:20:42,805 --> 01:20:45,105
So for the people
who left the church

1501
01:20:45,708 --> 01:20:48,809
this is an exciting
moment to heal.

1502
01:20:48,811 --> 01:20:50,377
For people who
are still in the church

1503
01:20:50,913 --> 01:20:52,279
this is a trauma.

1504
01:20:55,952 --> 01:20:56,817
[Lori] You know, it feels like

1505
01:20:56,819 --> 01:20:57,885
if they

1506
01:20:57,887 --> 01:20:58,786
you know, taken everything

1507
01:20:58,788 --> 01:21:00,554
they could possibly take

1508
01:21:00,556 --> 01:21:02,756
that's... that's the...
That's the last one.

1509
01:21:02,758 --> 01:21:05,893
There's nothing else
left for them to take.

1510
01:21:05,895 --> 01:21:07,962
They know what that
building means to us.

1511
01:21:07,964 --> 01:21:09,296
How can they do that?

1512
01:21:09,298 --> 01:21:12,132
[Children chattering]

1513
01:21:12,702 --> 01:21:14,235
[Boy]

1514
01:21:15,805 --> 01:21:19,406
But there's a purpose in it,

1515
01:21:19,408 --> 01:21:22,076
I needed to learn how
to trust the lord more.

1516
01:21:22,678 --> 01:21:23,811
If I can just

1517
01:21:23,813 --> 01:21:25,846
let my faith carry me over

1518
01:21:25,848 --> 01:21:27,948
this one next step.

1519
01:21:28,918 --> 01:21:30,284
How do I know

1520
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:33,687
that... that the goal isn't just

1521
01:21:33,689 --> 01:21:35,155
beyond my next step?

1522
01:21:39,996 --> 01:21:41,061
He knows what he's doing,

1523
01:21:41,063 --> 01:21:43,264
and I don't.

1524
01:21:43,266 --> 01:21:45,399
If I can just trust him.

1525
01:21:51,073 --> 01:21:55,175
So, I was able to get some of the
portraits from the meeting house.

1526
01:21:55,177 --> 01:21:59,313
And they need a place to stay
until you get a new meeting house,

1527
01:21:59,315 --> 01:22:00,948
so pick one.

1528
01:22:44,327 --> 01:22:47,428
[Lori] We've never asked anyone
to believe something they don't.

1529
01:22:48,965 --> 01:22:51,098
We just ask that they let us.

1530
01:22:52,401 --> 01:22:54,001
That's really all we want.

1531
01:22:54,003 --> 01:22:55,936
We just want to

1532
01:22:57,907 --> 01:22:59,807
worship as we believe.

1533
01:22:59,809 --> 01:23:02,242
I mean, is... is that a crime?

1534
01:23:10,186 --> 01:23:13,020
[Draper] It was a few
weeks before the election.

1535
01:23:13,022 --> 01:23:17,091
You're in there running against a
regime that has won all of these years.

1536
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:19,526
People just kept saying,
"oh, we'll never have a chance,

1537
01:23:19,528 --> 01:23:22,162
it's always been this way,
it's never going to be different."

1538
01:23:23,432 --> 01:23:25,899
[Musser] This town is
one, big survivor group.

1539
01:23:25,901 --> 01:23:30,137
It is terrible what we've all gone
through, but how do you move on

1540
01:23:30,339 --> 01:23:33,474
without some sort of change?

1541
01:23:33,476 --> 01:23:38,545
[Draper] It seemed like the citizens
weren't that motivated to make sure

1542
01:23:38,547 --> 01:23:40,547
that everybody on their
block was registered to vote,

1543
01:23:40,549 --> 01:23:42,583
and I certainly could not
go do all of that personally.

1544
01:23:42,585 --> 01:23:44,918
And sometimes, I just
sat there and thought,

1545
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,889
"well, you know, if you don't want
it, why are we working so hard?"

1546
01:23:48,891 --> 01:23:51,925
Because I knew that
it would be that close,

1547
01:23:51,927 --> 01:23:54,962
that we would need all of
the voters to be registered

1548
01:23:54,964 --> 01:23:56,230
and for them to turn out.

1549
01:23:58,567 --> 01:24:00,033
[Jessop] If I win today,

1550
01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:02,836
it's gonna be a true testament
that people really are stepping up,

1551
01:24:02,838 --> 01:24:04,671
taking care of their
civil responsibilities

1552
01:24:04,673 --> 01:24:06,974
to make the change
happen that is necessary.

1553
01:24:06,976 --> 01:24:08,809
[Voter] I think it's
really good. I think, uh,

1554
01:24:08,811 --> 01:24:10,911
our community
kinda needs a change.

1555
01:24:10,913 --> 01:24:13,514
[Female reporter] But,
not everyone is on board.

1556
01:24:13,516 --> 01:24:16,617
Those of the flds faith
who spoke to abc4 Utah,

1557
01:24:16,619 --> 01:24:18,552
all who declined
to go on camera,

1558
01:24:18,554 --> 01:24:21,388
said they felt Barlow
had their best interest,

1559
01:24:21,390 --> 01:24:23,424
and that is where they
were casting their vote.

1560
01:24:23,426 --> 01:24:25,559
Just a couple more hours
until we know the results,

1561
01:24:25,561 --> 01:24:28,629
and when we do know, we'll
have those on our website.

1562
01:24:28,631 --> 01:24:31,799
The trepidation, you know,
right before election about

1563
01:24:31,801 --> 01:24:33,867
is this going to work?
Is this going to work?

1564
01:24:33,869 --> 01:24:36,603
And watching the
numbers come in.

1565
01:24:36,605 --> 01:24:37,671
[Male reporter] Incumbent
mayors were ousted

1566
01:24:37,673 --> 01:24:39,573
across the valley
on election night.

1567
01:24:39,575 --> 01:24:41,608
Results so far showed big
changes could be coming

1568
01:24:41,610 --> 01:24:43,710
to the polygamist
border town of hilldale.

1569
01:24:43,712 --> 01:24:47,247
Donia jessop is the projected
winner from the mayor's race.

1570
01:24:48,617 --> 01:24:51,752
And having it turn out to be,
you know, that we had won,

1571
01:24:51,754 --> 01:24:53,720
and I just... I remember
where I was sitting

1572
01:24:53,722 --> 01:24:56,757
and I was screaming and
hollering and, "it worked! It worked!"

1573
01:24:56,759 --> 01:24:59,093
[Female reporter] It
was a historic victory

1574
01:24:59,095 --> 01:25:01,595
over a longtime incumbent mayor.

1575
01:25:01,597 --> 01:25:05,432
But one can argue the victory
heard across the beehive state

1576
01:25:05,434 --> 01:25:09,470
was also a victory
against patriarchy.

1577
01:25:09,505 --> 01:25:12,673
[Jessop] We' ve been beaten
around by Warren Jeffs for 15 years.

1578
01:25:12,675 --> 01:25:15,876
So to come out from
under his dictatorship,

1579
01:25:15,878 --> 01:25:17,744
and make the
decisions that are...

1580
01:25:17,746 --> 01:25:19,980
That are the best decisions
for the people living there,

1581
01:25:19,982 --> 01:25:22,583
not the best decisions
for Warren Jeffs,

1582
01:25:22,585 --> 01:25:25,185
is one of the most
important steps.

1583
01:25:27,890 --> 01:25:29,156
[Musser] We're not
done. We're just...

1584
01:25:29,158 --> 01:25:31,725
We're just almost
getting started.

1585
01:25:31,727 --> 01:25:35,529
We're almost done with the prelude
or the story, so we can start writing.

1586
01:25:35,531 --> 01:25:36,663
I don't know if
we're gonna make it,

1587
01:25:36,665 --> 01:25:37,664
I don't know if
we're gonna fail.

1588
01:25:37,666 --> 01:25:40,467
I know that we're doing
something different.

1589
01:25:40,469 --> 01:25:43,971
Our kids gonna remember
it's their town when we tell 'em,

1590
01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:46,306
"this is your town. We're simply
getting it ready for you guys,

1591
01:25:46,308 --> 01:25:49,643
so that you guys don't have to fight
this damn fight when you're our age,

1592
01:25:49,645 --> 01:25:53,347
and not have broken bodies and
broken mind and broken dreams."

1593
01:26:10,065 --> 01:26:11,899
[Lori] When they held the, uh,

1594
01:26:11,901 --> 01:26:14,401
swearing in of the new mayor,

1595
01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:19,740
I went to that with
Christine, Esther and I.

1596
01:26:19,742 --> 01:26:22,843
We decided we
were gonna go, and...

1597
01:26:22,845 --> 01:26:26,313
I don't know if that was a
very good decision on my part.

1598
01:26:28,517 --> 01:26:30,584
Wow, there goes donia.

1599
01:26:30,586 --> 01:26:33,720
I literally did not
recognize her.

1600
01:26:33,722 --> 01:26:35,856
I didn't recognize her husband,

1601
01:26:35,858 --> 01:26:38,992
and they were very,
very close friends of mine.

1602
01:26:39,762 --> 01:26:42,362
It was kind of overwhelming.

1603
01:26:52,641 --> 01:26:56,777
In all of this, what my goal
is is to create community.

1604
01:26:56,779 --> 01:26:59,913
That we can come together
under the community banner.

1605
01:26:59,915 --> 01:27:01,915
We can all have
our different beliefs.

1606
01:27:01,917 --> 01:27:05,652
We can all have, um,
everything we want.

1607
01:27:05,654 --> 01:27:08,322
In the end, we all
came from the same dirt.

1608
01:27:08,958 --> 01:27:11,758
And I am just so
glad to be here,

1609
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,427
and to be a part
of this community,

1610
01:27:13,429 --> 01:27:15,429
and I thank each one
of you for being here.

1611
01:27:15,431 --> 01:27:18,365
She's like, "we're
gonna start by singing

1612
01:27:18,767 --> 01:27:22,402
a song that we always
sung at our dances."

1613
01:27:22,404 --> 01:27:26,340
And you may recognize the song
as something we sang at our dances.

1614
01:27:26,976 --> 01:27:29,443
So, in the spirit of
creating community...

1615
01:27:29,445 --> 01:27:31,345
- I'm not gonna bawl.
- [Audience laughing]

1616
01:27:31,347 --> 01:27:33,747
In the spirit of creating
community, please join us.

1617
01:27:33,749 --> 01:27:36,083
If you don't know how to
sing, you just go, "la-la-la-la."

1618
01:27:36,085 --> 01:27:37,784
[Audience laughing]

1619
01:27:37,786 --> 01:27:41,421
[Accompaniment begins]

1620
01:27:41,423 --> 01:27:43,657
[Lori] They start
playing the music to

1621
01:27:43,659 --> 01:27:46,860
"give me a home in the
heart of the mountains,"

1622
01:27:46,862 --> 01:27:54,401
♪ give me a home in the
heart of the mountains ♪

1623
01:27:54,403 --> 01:27:58,739
[Lori] W hich is a song that we would
sing sometimes at the end of our dances.

1624
01:27:58,741 --> 01:28:01,174
Our church dances.

1625
01:28:01,944 --> 01:28:04,411
The church that now she was

1626
01:28:06,348 --> 01:28:09,950
participating in dissolving.

1627
01:28:09,952 --> 01:28:14,054
And I... I tried to sing
the song and I... I couldn't.

1628
01:28:14,857 --> 01:28:19,793
[Singing continues]

1629
01:28:19,795 --> 01:28:23,096
Even someone like
donia and her family,

1630
01:28:23,932 --> 01:28:27,134
you never really
stop loving them.

1631
01:28:28,804 --> 01:28:32,372
Even though they can, you
know, do things that hurt,

1632
01:28:32,808 --> 01:28:34,241
really hurt,

1633
01:28:36,578 --> 01:28:41,114
there's always, you know,
something in your heart

1634
01:28:43,752 --> 01:28:46,019
that remembers
what they were to you.

1635
01:28:46,822 --> 01:28:49,022
And you'll always love 'em.

1636
01:29:08,844 --> 01:29:11,578
Right around the
time of the election,

1637
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:14,448
we were served with
an eviction notice.

1638
01:29:19,421 --> 01:29:21,421
There's something
that comes with

1639
01:29:24,660 --> 01:29:26,993
the idea that

1640
01:29:29,832 --> 01:29:32,265
we want your stuff,
but we don't want you.

1641
01:29:34,770 --> 01:29:39,940
But, by that time, they had
evicted the storehouse buildings,

1642
01:29:39,942 --> 01:29:42,542
they had evicted
the processing plant,

1643
01:29:42,544 --> 01:29:44,144
they had evicted

1644
01:29:44,813 --> 01:29:46,446
just home, after
home, after home,

1645
01:29:46,448 --> 01:29:48,615
after home, after home.

1646
01:29:48,617 --> 01:29:52,152
There really wasn't a
desire to fight to stay here.

1647
01:30:13,942 --> 01:30:17,577
[Meehan] Since day
one, I've just gone with it.

1648
01:30:17,579 --> 01:30:21,748
From the night I met the boys
down in St. George and talked,

1649
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:23,884
and started filming right then,

1650
01:30:23,886 --> 01:30:25,752
I didn't know where
it was gonna go,

1651
01:30:25,754 --> 01:30:28,288
and here we are,
over ten years later.

1652
01:30:30,426 --> 01:30:32,659
You got dust on the
lens, I think. Is that dust?

1653
01:30:32,661 --> 01:30:33,627
[Cameraman] Eh, it's alright.

1654
01:30:33,629 --> 01:30:35,128
All right, as long
as you can still see.

1655
01:30:35,130 --> 01:30:39,132
It's probably a good filter
for my face, but... [laughs]

1656
01:30:41,837 --> 01:30:46,239
I've met some wonderful people
doing documentaries and other things,

1657
01:30:47,142 --> 01:30:48,775
but this is the
one I can't shake.

1658
01:30:48,777 --> 01:30:51,745
This is... This is
the group of people

1659
01:30:51,747 --> 01:30:56,082
that will always be in
my heart and my head.

1660
01:30:56,084 --> 01:30:58,985
[Children] Glenn,
watch! Glenn! Glenn!

1661
01:30:58,987 --> 01:31:01,388
[Children chatter excitedly]

1662
01:31:01,390 --> 01:31:02,155
Mush!

1663
01:31:02,157 --> 01:31:03,323
Come on!

1664
01:31:04,059 --> 01:31:06,726
Go! [Both laughing]

1665
01:31:06,728 --> 01:31:08,728
[Meehan] Because, you know,
what's really been interesting for me,

1666
01:31:08,730 --> 01:31:10,030
is I come in here,

1667
01:31:10,032 --> 01:31:13,200
and I think, "I'm
with the flds families,"

1668
01:31:13,202 --> 01:31:14,534
and I'm thinking, "yes, right!

1669
01:31:14,536 --> 01:31:17,537
All those people outside
are... They're horrible!"

1670
01:31:17,539 --> 01:31:21,475
And then I go and I meet these
wonderful people that have left,

1671
01:31:21,477 --> 01:31:26,813
and I'm like, "oh, boy! Those
flds people have it all wrong!"

1672
01:31:26,815 --> 01:31:29,115
And then the next day, I'm back
with them, and the next day...

1673
01:31:29,117 --> 01:31:32,152
And it's been this
ping-pong match in my heart.

1674
01:31:32,721 --> 01:31:34,754
And what I've realized

1675
01:31:34,756 --> 01:31:37,557
is there hasn't been anybody
we talked to that I don't like,

1676
01:31:37,559 --> 01:31:41,394
that I don't love,
that I don't feel for.

1677
01:31:41,396 --> 01:31:43,964
And I think the world
needs to hear these stories,

1678
01:31:43,966 --> 01:31:46,900
and really understand
what's happening here,

1679
01:31:46,902 --> 01:31:49,402
not just in a sound bite,

1680
01:31:49,404 --> 01:31:52,272
and not just in an agenda.

1681
01:31:53,709 --> 01:31:57,344
This town, everybody has
their story, and that's their truth.

1682
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,014
And everybody just
needs to accept that.

1683
01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:15,362
Independence day has a whole new
meaning for us here in short creek.

1684
01:32:16,398 --> 01:32:18,431
And I just want to
honor each one of us,

1685
01:32:18,433 --> 01:32:19,866
each one of the soldiers,

1686
01:32:19,868 --> 01:32:23,403
each one of us that have stood
up and claimed our independence.

1687
01:32:24,773 --> 01:32:27,274
And I want to honor all
the family that isn't here,

1688
01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:29,976
all the fallen soldiers,

1689
01:32:30,078 --> 01:32:30,810
and each one of us.

1690
01:32:30,812 --> 01:32:33,880
And I ask each one of you today

1691
01:32:33,882 --> 01:32:36,182
to reach out to someone
that you may not know,

1692
01:32:36,652 --> 01:32:38,718
because they're probably family.

1693
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,188
And we all need each
other. We belong here.

1694
01:32:42,190 --> 01:32:44,491
Thank you all for being
here. Welcome home.

1695
01:32:44,493 --> 01:32:49,429
[Crowd cheering]

1696
01:32:49,431 --> 01:32:51,965
You'll never find a community
again like this anywhere.

1697
01:32:51,967 --> 01:32:54,701
It's just old school, people
coming together, hanging out,

1698
01:32:54,703 --> 01:32:56,570
not a lot of phones, or...

1699
01:32:56,572 --> 01:33:00,640
It's just, you'll see groups of
people talking in circles all day.

1700
01:33:00,642 --> 01:33:03,610
You'll see moms and
dads, uh, sisters and siblings

1701
01:33:03,612 --> 01:33:05,445
that haven't seen
each other for years.

1702
01:33:05,447 --> 01:33:09,883
So, it's jus t a big old,
like a family reunion, really.

1703
01:33:09,885 --> 01:33:13,620
I just came home to die in
a town that just, felt like I did.

1704
01:33:13,622 --> 01:33:16,623
But, at the same
time I was like, why?

1705
01:33:16,625 --> 01:33:18,959
You know, coming home
almost gave me purpose.

1706
01:33:18,961 --> 01:33:21,561
It almost saved, saved my
life, it did, in so many ways.

1707
01:33:21,563 --> 01:33:24,798
The very thing I was
doing just saved me.

1708
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,234
Was to come home and just have
purpose. Because, this is home to me.

1709
01:33:28,236 --> 01:33:30,770
And this town is such
an amazing place.

1710
01:33:30,772 --> 01:33:34,641
[Draper] All of the fences are
gone, they're, down from the park.

1711
01:33:34,643 --> 01:33:36,509
Anyone can walk in
and everyone's welcome.

1712
01:33:36,511 --> 01:33:38,311
This is us. This is our home.

1713
01:33:38,313 --> 01:33:41,715
And so, I think it's a beautiful
transition that's happened

1714
01:33:41,717 --> 01:33:45,986
that we don't have to declare
anything. We're here. We're home.

1715
01:34:08,710 --> 01:34:11,578
There's a function
over at the park.

1716
01:34:11,580 --> 01:34:14,414
Uh, I've heard people
say that it's supposed to be

1717
01:34:14,416 --> 01:34:17,784
a recreation of what
it used to be like

1718
01:34:17,786 --> 01:34:20,687
and, uh, quite frankly, I
don't see how it can be

1719
01:34:20,689 --> 01:34:21,921
what it used to be like

1720
01:34:21,923 --> 01:34:25,358
when the people aren't what
they used to be like anymore.

1721
01:34:26,161 --> 01:34:28,194
[Interviewer] And how
does that make you feel?

1722
01:34:29,097 --> 01:34:31,297
Oh, lonesome.

1723
01:34:39,741 --> 01:34:41,408
[People cheering]

1724
01:34:41,410 --> 01:34:42,842
[Bistline] Things have changed.

1725
01:34:42,844 --> 01:34:45,078
People have changed.

1726
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:45,879
["Wobble" by v.I.C. Playing]

1727
01:34:45,881 --> 01:34:47,080
♪ Let me see you just ♪

1728
01:34:47,082 --> 01:34:49,315
♪ get low n scrub the
grown let me see you just ♪

1729
01:34:49,317 --> 01:34:51,518
♪ push it up, push it
up let me see you just ♪

1730
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:59,520
♪ wobble baby, wobble baby,
wobble baby, wobble, yeah ♪

1731
01:35:01,830 --> 01:35:04,831
[Bistline] There's not
very many of us left.

1732
01:35:04,833 --> 01:35:08,268
But, some of us don't
have anywhere else to go.

1733
01:35:11,540 --> 01:35:13,406
[Man] So good to see ya.

1734
01:35:14,509 --> 01:35:19,079
[Bistline] We don't get involved
with the celebration that they do now

1735
01:35:19,081 --> 01:35:23,249
because it feels like they're
celebrating the fact that they've

1736
01:35:24,586 --> 01:35:26,319
ripped it away from us

1737
01:35:27,422 --> 01:35:30,390
and they're taking
over the community.

1738
01:35:30,392 --> 01:35:32,325
[People cheering]

1739
01:35:36,031 --> 01:35:40,633
[Both singing] ♪ there's
a special little place ♪

1740
01:35:40,635 --> 01:35:43,503
♪ called short creek ♪

1741
01:35:43,505 --> 01:35:49,175
♪ far, far away ♪

1742
01:35:50,779 --> 01:35:57,050
♪ that's where my heart
starts turning ever ♪

1743
01:35:57,052 --> 01:36:02,322
♪ longing to be whole again ♪

1744
01:36:37,092 --> 01:36:39,993
[No audible dialogue]

1745
01:37:33,181 --> 01:37:34,714
[People cheering]

1746
01:38:59,734 --> 01:39:04,070
[Lori] We're about an hour, to an
hour and a half drive from short creek.

1747
01:39:08,009 --> 01:39:10,276
The best thing about
it is no one bothers ya.

1748
01:39:11,112 --> 01:39:12,211
[Chuckles]

1749
01:39:26,394 --> 01:39:29,996
When we first moved
here, then, it was quiet.

1750
01:39:29,998 --> 01:39:33,967
Not even our neighbors
bother us so it's always peaceful.

1751
01:39:34,703 --> 01:39:36,369
That's one thing
I like about it,

1752
01:39:37,706 --> 01:39:40,206
is that we're never bothered.

1753
01:39:44,045 --> 01:39:47,246
It was hard to just leave
there but we had to.

1754
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:50,616
Like heavenly father said,

1755
01:39:50,618 --> 01:39:52,852
if we're, you know,
pure and clean,

1756
01:39:52,854 --> 01:39:58,324
then we'll always get to live
back into where we wanted to live.

1757
01:40:07,936 --> 01:40:11,037
[Man] We've had many,
many opportunities

1758
01:40:11,039 --> 01:40:13,039
to give up our beliefs.

1759
01:40:14,642 --> 01:40:17,977
Zion is, is... here

1760
01:40:17,979 --> 01:40:21,147
with me. I mean,
it's inside it's not

1761
01:40:21,816 --> 01:40:25,184
what everybody
else thinks they know.

1762
01:40:25,186 --> 01:40:27,887
I mean, my
religion is right here.

1763
01:40:27,889 --> 01:40:29,288
Right down in here.

1764
01:40:29,290 --> 01:40:33,226
And what I believe,
no one can take away.

1765
01:40:38,199 --> 01:40:44,670
[Man] We've always been a believer that
the heavenly father is testing his people,

1766
01:40:44,672 --> 01:40:49,409
the people that he's chosen, to
be the leaders in Zion will be tested.

1767
01:40:49,411 --> 01:40:50,710
It says that in the Bible,

1768
01:40:50,712 --> 01:40:52,645
the lord will have
a tried people.

1769
01:40:52,647 --> 01:40:56,983
Well, I believe that's a
test. Absolutely, absolutely.

1770
01:41:01,423 --> 01:41:04,257
I think that we will, under
the right circumstances,

1771
01:41:04,259 --> 01:41:07,393
that we will eventually
move back there.

1772
01:41:08,563 --> 01:41:15,568
I mean, none of the promises that the
lord has placed on the place have changed

1773
01:41:15,570 --> 01:41:20,073
because god doesn't lie and
he doesn't change his promises.

1774
01:41:25,046 --> 01:41:26,646
It's just, kind of hard
to go there right now.

1775
01:41:26,648 --> 01:41:29,215
[Chuckles]

1776
01:41:44,699 --> 01:41:51,604
[All singing] ♪ give me a home
in the heart of the mountains ♪

1777
01:41:51,606 --> 01:41:58,711
♪ out in the hills of
the glorious west ♪

1778
01:41:58,713 --> 01:42:05,618
♪ nursed in the arms of
her crystalline fountains ♪

1779
01:42:05,620 --> 01:42:12,525
♪ playfully hurrying
down to their rest ♪

1780
01:42:12,527 --> 01:42:20,066
♪ hurrying down hurrying down ♪

1781
01:42:20,068 --> 01:42:26,939
♪ playfully hurrying
down to their rest ♪