1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:40,764 --> 00:00:45,907 GERRY LOPEZ: You know, I had no idea first seeing it that how my life... 4 00:00:47,633 --> 00:00:53,846 would be, you know, and that I would be this surfer for life 5 00:00:53,881 --> 00:00:57,402 and most surfers, you know, once the bug, 6 00:00:57,436 --> 00:01:00,508 the surfing bug bites them, that's what happens, 7 00:01:00,543 --> 00:01:02,303 they become surfers for life. 8 00:01:10,553 --> 00:01:12,762 I think one of the greatest lessons 9 00:01:12,796 --> 00:01:17,042 you can learn in life, and it's really a hard one to learn, 10 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:21,115 is to allow yourself the freedom to fail 11 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:24,360 because surfing, windsurfing, 12 00:01:24,394 --> 00:01:26,258 I remember struggling with that. 13 00:01:26,293 --> 00:01:28,364 Everything, stand up, 14 00:01:28,398 --> 00:01:33,127 all these sports... Kiting, oh, my God, foiling... Jesus. 15 00:01:33,162 --> 00:01:38,581 It's taken me a long time to learn... [CHUCKLES] 16 00:01:38,615 --> 00:01:41,687 and to find any success in all these sports. 17 00:01:41,722 --> 00:01:44,414 I think the only thing that I had going for me 18 00:01:44,449 --> 00:01:47,797 was I was persistent, so I just stuck with it. 19 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:53,872 I think that's how everything in life is, you know, 20 00:01:53,906 --> 00:01:56,046 that a lot of times we... 21 00:01:56,978 --> 00:02:00,050 give up too soon, you know. 22 00:02:00,085 --> 00:02:03,468 And I think it was Churchill who said, 23 00:02:03,502 --> 00:02:08,231 "Success is going from one failure to the next failure 24 00:02:08,266 --> 00:02:11,165 "without a loss of enthusiasm." 25 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,098 I just got to keep paddling, man. 26 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:15,618 No matter what, you know, keep paddling. 27 00:02:16,446 --> 00:02:18,068 [MUSIC PLAYING] 28 00:02:31,634 --> 00:02:34,844 ROBBY NAISH: If you want to go all the way back down the family tree, 29 00:02:34,878 --> 00:02:36,501 we all started from surfing. 30 00:02:36,535 --> 00:02:38,606 Surfing was the foundation of it all. 31 00:02:38,641 --> 00:02:40,401 And from that, windsurfing came. 32 00:02:40,436 --> 00:02:44,474 And windsurfing directly either gave birth to, 33 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:46,752 or at least really strongly influenced 34 00:02:46,787 --> 00:02:48,478 all these other sports. 35 00:02:48,513 --> 00:02:51,240 BRETT LICKLE: And that's the evolving part of it, 36 00:02:51,274 --> 00:02:53,207 and that's what we're all here to talk about. 37 00:02:53,242 --> 00:02:55,520 And that's like, you know what evolved from windsurfing... 38 00:02:55,554 --> 00:02:57,177 and... and why. 39 00:02:58,661 --> 00:03:00,663 MAN: That's the beauty of surfing, 40 00:03:00,697 --> 00:03:04,598 is that once you embrace it, it embraces you. 41 00:03:04,632 --> 00:03:07,221 For a surfer, life isn't about the last wave. 42 00:03:07,256 --> 00:03:08,636 It's about the next one. 43 00:03:08,671 --> 00:03:11,363 ♪♪ Rising up 44 00:03:11,398 --> 00:03:14,228 ♪♪ Rising up 45 00:03:14,263 --> 00:03:17,266 ♪♪ This is our time To go together 46 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:19,785 ♪♪ Time to go together 47 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:22,305 ♪♪ Rising up 48 00:03:22,340 --> 00:03:25,101 ♪♪ Rising up 49 00:03:25,135 --> 00:03:30,624 ♪♪ This is our thing, you know Thing, you know 50 00:03:41,324 --> 00:03:43,292 ♪♪ Rising up ♪ 51 00:04:09,283 --> 00:04:10,905 THOMAS MOREY: I could take you back a long way. 52 00:04:10,940 --> 00:04:12,044 MAN: I'd like that. 53 00:04:12,079 --> 00:04:15,358 So let me start with Malibu. 54 00:04:15,393 --> 00:04:20,881 For me, in the '50s, '55, '6, '7, '8, '9, like that, 55 00:04:20,915 --> 00:04:25,092 I got to know a lot of guys, and we talked a lot of technology, 56 00:04:25,126 --> 00:04:27,715 but we didn't know we were going to be anybody 57 00:04:27,750 --> 00:04:29,717 or do anything with it at the time. 58 00:04:29,752 --> 00:04:33,859 So in terms of who we were, what we were interested in, 59 00:04:33,894 --> 00:04:35,792 we were surfers, first and foremost, 60 00:04:35,827 --> 00:04:37,760 and didn't care all that much about all the rest of the stuff 61 00:04:37,794 --> 00:04:39,348 we're supposed to do. 62 00:04:39,382 --> 00:04:41,591 But we did care about that wind, 63 00:04:41,626 --> 00:04:44,076 we couldn't avoid that it was there, 64 00:04:44,111 --> 00:04:46,631 and it was in the wind, so to speak, 65 00:04:46,665 --> 00:04:49,634 that we were going to at some point, 66 00:04:49,668 --> 00:04:51,843 have sails on boards. 67 00:04:51,877 --> 00:04:54,224 ZANE SCHWEITZER: I try and get it out of my grandfather a lot 68 00:04:54,259 --> 00:04:56,261 when we're having dinner, like asking him, 69 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:58,298 so what was it like, you know, hanging at the beach, 70 00:04:58,332 --> 00:05:01,093 like what, when did you decide that 71 00:05:01,128 --> 00:05:03,993 we should ride the wind, or, you know, 72 00:05:04,027 --> 00:05:06,651 and he would just tell me, well, we'd be sitting at the beach, 73 00:05:06,685 --> 00:05:10,310 it was [BLEEP] for surfing, and we wanted to keep having fun. 74 00:05:10,344 --> 00:05:13,243 You know, it's just like, so simple. 75 00:05:13,278 --> 00:05:15,798 SEYMOUR BEEK: I'm not sure any of those guys knew at that time 76 00:05:15,832 --> 00:05:18,318 that they were going to make any kind of a living out of 77 00:05:18,352 --> 00:05:20,389 what they were messing around with and Clark, 78 00:05:20,423 --> 00:05:22,494 of course, at that time, he hadn't even thought about 79 00:05:22,529 --> 00:05:23,840 making a board out of foam. 80 00:05:23,875 --> 00:05:25,773 That came years later. 81 00:05:25,808 --> 00:05:27,568 And I'm sure Hoyle didn't think 82 00:05:27,603 --> 00:05:29,259 anything about windsurfing at that time. 83 00:05:29,294 --> 00:05:31,331 We were all just interested in surfing and having fun. 84 00:05:31,365 --> 00:05:33,850 Hobie knew that he was going to be in the surfboard business 85 00:05:33,885 --> 00:05:36,853 because he was already making boards and he had quit school, 86 00:05:36,888 --> 00:05:40,132 and he'd got a loan from his dad to open the surfboard shop. 87 00:05:40,167 --> 00:05:42,583 So Hobie sorta knew where he was going. 88 00:05:42,618 --> 00:05:45,759 But I don't think any of the rest of that group really did. 89 00:05:45,793 --> 00:05:48,106 But it turned out later we're Clark Foam, 90 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:51,040 we've got windsurfers and we got boogie boards. [LAUGHING] 91 00:05:51,074 --> 00:05:53,629 Who'd have known that, you know, 92 00:05:53,663 --> 00:05:55,907 windsurfing would become... 93 00:05:56,494 --> 00:05:58,219 or even surfing, 94 00:05:58,254 --> 00:06:00,843 you know, for both of them would become... 95 00:06:01,878 --> 00:06:04,225 an industry and a business that, 96 00:06:05,019 --> 00:06:07,608 that they could be successful at, 97 00:06:07,643 --> 00:06:11,198 and, you know, they created their own jobs. 98 00:06:11,232 --> 00:06:14,201 Grubby, you know, made the foam cores 99 00:06:14,235 --> 00:06:16,410 for all the surfboards, Clark Foam. 100 00:06:16,445 --> 00:06:19,862 Your grandpa, he figured out 101 00:06:19,896 --> 00:06:21,829 the universal joint. 102 00:06:21,864 --> 00:06:25,005 And he got a patent on it, you know, he was smart 103 00:06:25,039 --> 00:06:27,490 and then all of a sudden, 104 00:06:27,525 --> 00:06:31,321 you know, I mean, he saw that before anybody else. 105 00:06:31,356 --> 00:06:34,255 You know, there's a real genius there that, 106 00:06:34,290 --> 00:06:36,361 you know you have to admire 107 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:38,984 because no one had done it before. 108 00:06:45,577 --> 00:06:48,408 GRUBBY CLARK: There was, you know, no wind, totally different 109 00:06:48,442 --> 00:06:51,341 than what you guys even think of windsurfing as. 110 00:06:51,376 --> 00:06:53,689 Completely different, completely different sport. 111 00:06:53,723 --> 00:06:55,484 But it took over like crazy. 112 00:06:55,518 --> 00:06:58,418 GERRY: When you guys go out and talk to Grubby, 113 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:01,041 he's 88 years old now, 114 00:07:01,075 --> 00:07:03,768 but he still, at his core, 115 00:07:03,802 --> 00:07:07,944 he's still a surfer, even though he calls himself a rancher now. 116 00:07:07,979 --> 00:07:10,464 And your grandpa's the same thing, 117 00:07:10,499 --> 00:07:14,779 you know, they started as surfers and... 118 00:07:14,813 --> 00:07:18,472 Grubby will tell you a good story about when they were in college. 119 00:07:18,507 --> 00:07:22,683 They were known as surfers and ostracized for it. [LAUGHS] 120 00:07:22,718 --> 00:07:25,790 I'm a farmer. I don't know. 121 00:07:25,824 --> 00:07:31,036 Yeah, right. You should see, this guy, he's more proud of his farming plaque, 122 00:07:31,071 --> 00:07:32,797 -and he doesn't even mention... -Yeah... 123 00:07:32,831 --> 00:07:35,627 And he sets his farming plaque down and sitting right next to it 124 00:07:35,662 --> 00:07:39,459 is that gold Surfer Hall of Fame, Surfing Hall of Fame... 125 00:07:40,183 --> 00:07:41,978 trophy... [LAUGHS] 126 00:07:42,013 --> 00:07:43,359 That he didn't even mention. 127 00:07:46,949 --> 00:07:49,917 Essentially, what your grandfather, 128 00:07:49,952 --> 00:07:52,748 he was the one that kind of introduced me to it. 129 00:07:52,782 --> 00:07:56,096 As I said, we built our first two boards together. 130 00:07:56,130 --> 00:07:59,617 He knew where to get the board, knew what the shape was supposed to be 131 00:07:59,651 --> 00:08:04,242 and all of that, and we screwed up all the tiles and everything 132 00:08:04,276 --> 00:08:06,900 in the quad at Pomona College. 133 00:08:06,934 --> 00:08:10,351 We had resin all over everything and... 134 00:08:10,386 --> 00:08:14,217 It was a big mess. But we got the boards out and surfed them. 135 00:08:15,184 --> 00:08:17,324 Our shapes were terrible and everything else 136 00:08:17,358 --> 00:08:20,500 but we were way ahead of everybody else for a little while. 137 00:08:30,579 --> 00:08:32,788 MATTY: I've never been able to get it out of my grandparents, 138 00:08:32,822 --> 00:08:35,273 asking them anything to do with windsurfing. 139 00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:37,758 They'll tell stories around the dinner table 140 00:08:37,793 --> 00:08:41,797 about people, places, events, 141 00:08:41,831 --> 00:08:45,490 experiences, but you can never get the details 142 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:47,975 of, you know, anything to do with asking them, 143 00:08:48,010 --> 00:08:50,564 did they invent it or talking about that. 144 00:08:50,599 --> 00:08:52,601 I think Hoyle Schweitzer has credit for it. 145 00:08:52,635 --> 00:08:54,948 But Jim Drake was with him, and there was some talk 146 00:08:54,982 --> 00:08:57,226 of other people before them. I don't know it. 147 00:08:57,260 --> 00:09:00,056 ROBBY: Guys had laid on surfboards and held up T-shirts. 148 00:09:00,091 --> 00:09:02,507 Guys had sat on surfboards in Waikiki with an umbrella, 149 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:04,578 that's windsurfing. But it's really different 150 00:09:04,613 --> 00:09:07,857 when you break it down into those finished components 151 00:09:07,892 --> 00:09:09,928 that actually functioned as a unit together. 152 00:09:10,895 --> 00:09:15,037 Hoyle patented it successfully and received the credit for that, 153 00:09:15,071 --> 00:09:19,973 and he did a lot for the sport by organizing races with their family. 154 00:09:20,007 --> 00:09:22,492 LAIRD: I think it's dangerous if someone says 155 00:09:22,527 --> 00:09:25,599 I invented this, like, they had some unique thought, 156 00:09:25,634 --> 00:09:27,497 and they're the only person that ever had it. 157 00:09:27,532 --> 00:09:29,154 It's just what you do with the thought 158 00:09:29,189 --> 00:09:31,812 that separates you from the other people. 159 00:09:31,847 --> 00:09:34,366 GRUBBY: I know your grandfather was the first guy 160 00:09:34,401 --> 00:09:37,577 to make a windsurfer because what he did, 161 00:09:37,611 --> 00:09:41,546 he came down to me and we took what was called a tandem blank 162 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:44,618 for tandem surfing, and took two blanks 163 00:09:44,653 --> 00:09:46,896 and cut in half and extended it 164 00:09:46,931 --> 00:09:50,348 by gluing this piece to this piece and took a piece out of the center 165 00:09:50,382 --> 00:09:55,215 of the other one and glued it wider for him, to make his original prototype, 166 00:09:55,249 --> 00:09:58,667 and that's how he made it out of pieces of a tandem blank 167 00:09:58,701 --> 00:10:01,014 we glued up for him, kind of Mickey Mouse like. 168 00:10:01,048 --> 00:10:04,224 ROBBY: All the elements were there, as they are with a million different things. 169 00:10:04,258 --> 00:10:06,398 I mean, look at music, right? How many notes are there? 170 00:10:06,433 --> 00:10:09,747 You think, here is a piano, it's only got that many keys. 171 00:10:09,781 --> 00:10:11,749 Everything that could possibly ever be played 172 00:10:11,783 --> 00:10:13,682 must have been played. Not the case. 173 00:10:13,716 --> 00:10:17,030 People are still making new music with those same keys every day. 174 00:10:17,064 --> 00:10:19,480 That's kind of the nature of everything. 175 00:10:19,515 --> 00:10:21,862 It's not coming up with just the base. 176 00:10:21,897 --> 00:10:23,415 It's what do you do with it. 177 00:10:23,450 --> 00:10:24,762 You know, where are you going to take it? 178 00:10:32,045 --> 00:10:34,668 KAI: At the end of the day, when I rig up my gear, 179 00:10:34,703 --> 00:10:38,638 I go out for that last session and I ride a wave, 180 00:10:38,672 --> 00:10:40,916 I realize I have the power of the wind, 181 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:42,952 I have the power of the ocean, 182 00:10:42,987 --> 00:10:46,473 I am the conduit to make everything work. 183 00:10:46,507 --> 00:10:50,304 And there is just this pure euphoria 184 00:10:50,339 --> 00:10:53,583 of laying that sail down and carving down the line. 185 00:10:53,618 --> 00:10:57,104 And I think people get the same sensation when they're just 186 00:10:57,139 --> 00:11:01,488 skipping across the water like a rock being thrown on a lake. 187 00:11:01,522 --> 00:11:04,664 It's the most powerful combination you could ever do on the water, 188 00:11:04,698 --> 00:11:06,562 is to surf and to ride the wind. 189 00:11:09,047 --> 00:11:10,877 [MUSIC PLAYING] 190 00:11:21,508 --> 00:11:25,615 ♪♪ I'll be that silver Silver lining to the story 191 00:11:25,650 --> 00:11:27,445 ♪♪ If you thought that I would Turn and run 192 00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:29,102 ♪♪ Then y'all don't know me 193 00:11:29,136 --> 00:11:32,450 ♪♪ May my fears rest in peace 'Cause that's the old me 194 00:11:32,484 --> 00:11:35,384 ♪♪ Got this taste on my tongue I crave the glory 195 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:39,837 ♪♪ Gasoline in my veins 196 00:11:39,871 --> 00:11:45,014 ♪♪ Be the fuel through my pain Oh, ah 197 00:11:45,049 --> 00:11:47,776 ♪♪ As we rise Rise from the flames 198 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:51,124 ♪♪ Heart of a lion Never say never 199 00:11:51,158 --> 00:11:54,368 ♪♪ Cut like a diamond Shine under pressure 200 00:11:54,403 --> 00:11:57,509 ♪♪ Whoa oh It's time to fire on up 201 00:11:57,544 --> 00:12:00,823 ♪♪ Whoa oh It's time to fire on up 202 00:12:00,858 --> 00:12:04,309 ♪♪ Pound on your chest Like there's no tomorrow 203 00:12:04,344 --> 00:12:07,485 ♪♪ Just play the game right No one can follow 204 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:10,730 ♪♪ Whoa oh It's time to fire on up 205 00:12:10,764 --> 00:12:14,147 ♪♪ Whoa oh It's time to fire on up 206 00:12:27,298 --> 00:12:30,784 ♪♪ Heart of a lion Never say never 207 00:12:30,819 --> 00:12:34,029 ♪♪ Cut like a diamond Shine under pressure 208 00:12:34,063 --> 00:12:36,583 ♪♪ It's time to fire on up 209 00:12:37,860 --> 00:12:40,690 ♪♪ It's time to fire on up 210 00:12:40,725 --> 00:12:44,004 ♪♪ Pound on your chest Like there's no tomorrow 211 00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:47,387 ♪♪ Just play the game right No one can follow 212 00:12:47,421 --> 00:12:50,355 ♪♪ Whoa oh It's time to fire on up 213 00:12:50,390 --> 00:12:53,911 ♪♪ Whoa oh It's time to fire on up ♪♪ 214 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:18,556 ZANE: My grandparents and dad talk so much about Baja. 215 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:22,077 A lot of the old stories I hear, like, when we're eating dinner with the family, 216 00:13:22,111 --> 00:13:24,493 always bringing up stories from Baja. 217 00:13:24,527 --> 00:13:27,945 Yeah, San Carlos and Abreojos, 218 00:13:27,979 --> 00:13:30,085 and all those places they used to go 219 00:13:30,119 --> 00:13:32,742 -for early windsurfing. -Yeah. 220 00:13:32,777 --> 00:13:35,469 What was it, man? What was the Skate? 221 00:13:35,504 --> 00:13:38,300 [MAN] The Skate was the very first name of the windsurfer. 222 00:13:38,334 --> 00:13:42,166 -But did it look just like a Baja board? -The first windsurfer, 223 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,479 the very first windsurfer was named Skate. 224 00:13:45,514 --> 00:13:47,481 And then we went to Baja all the time 225 00:13:47,516 --> 00:13:49,311 and we renamed it the Baja board. 226 00:13:51,037 --> 00:13:53,246 TARA SCHWEITZER: Old footage from the old days, eh? 227 00:13:54,454 --> 00:13:55,765 People sitting in the sand. 228 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,908 We spent most of our young days down in Mexico. 229 00:13:59,942 --> 00:14:01,979 That's why it was originally called the Baja Board, 230 00:14:02,013 --> 00:14:05,465 because we used to go down to the Baja and camp all the time. 231 00:14:05,499 --> 00:14:07,881 And then they renamed it the Windsurfer 232 00:14:07,916 --> 00:14:10,194 after Baja board was already taken. 233 00:14:10,228 --> 00:14:13,714 But some of these look like there are some pictures down on the... 234 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:17,787 down on the beach in Mexico. 235 00:14:17,822 --> 00:14:23,000 MIKE: The first time I saw Windsurfer was in Mexico and I was seven years old 236 00:14:23,034 --> 00:14:26,796 and I distinctly remember, I was either asking Diane or Hoyle 237 00:14:26,831 --> 00:14:30,939 if I could try it and they kind of giggled and said, "Well, you're too small, 238 00:14:30,973 --> 00:14:32,872 "like you'd never be able to pull the sail out of the water." 239 00:14:32,906 --> 00:14:34,321 Which was true. I probably weighed 240 00:14:34,356 --> 00:14:36,185 60 pounds when I was seven years old. 241 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:38,705 Two years later, when I was nine years old, 242 00:14:38,739 --> 00:14:40,914 Diane had hand sewn a sail. 243 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:44,642 They called it the Kid Rig, and it was sail number 12, 12th sail ever made. 244 00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:46,264 And they just put it on one of the normal boards, 245 00:14:46,299 --> 00:14:50,303 and then Matt and I, we were nine and we could try it. 246 00:14:50,337 --> 00:14:52,201 So that's when I learned how to windsurf when I was nine. 247 00:14:57,172 --> 00:14:58,932 SHAWNEEN: Matt, and Tara, and Ted 248 00:14:58,967 --> 00:15:03,350 watched their parents take this thing from an idea 249 00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:04,973 to a huge, booming business, 250 00:15:05,007 --> 00:15:07,251 and in the meantime, they were in their living room 251 00:15:07,285 --> 00:15:09,494 boxing the windsurfers, putting the labels on. 252 00:15:09,529 --> 00:15:13,429 They were working as a family to grow the sport. 253 00:15:13,464 --> 00:15:15,915 TARA: In the very beginning days when we were manufacturing 254 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:18,676 out of our house on Beirut in Pacific Palisades, 255 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:20,920 it was basically a family affair 256 00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:23,681 where everybody contributed, even my friends. 257 00:15:23,715 --> 00:15:25,510 My mom would bribe my friends 258 00:15:25,545 --> 00:15:27,581 with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches so that 259 00:15:27,616 --> 00:15:29,721 they could help screw on 260 00:15:29,756 --> 00:15:33,001 the old style screws to the booms. 261 00:15:33,035 --> 00:15:37,453 Then our neighbors turned us in for having a business in a neighborhood. 262 00:15:37,488 --> 00:15:39,593 And so parents had to get real and get a shop, 263 00:15:39,628 --> 00:15:41,250 get a real manufacturing business. 264 00:15:41,285 --> 00:15:43,528 So, and that's when things started to kind of get 265 00:15:43,563 --> 00:15:46,014 a little busier anyway. 266 00:15:46,048 --> 00:15:49,362 REPORTER: Hoyle Schweitzer's development of the manufacturing process 267 00:15:49,396 --> 00:15:52,365 set the stage for the windsurfing explosion. 268 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:54,436 Accessories are packaged and shipped to dealers, 269 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:56,093 nationally, as well as internationally, 270 00:15:56,127 --> 00:15:58,578 to meet an ever increasing demand. 271 00:15:58,612 --> 00:16:01,477 MATT: I think everything went so fast 272 00:16:01,512 --> 00:16:03,997 for a while that their lives changed 273 00:16:04,032 --> 00:16:06,103 from being cruisers in Mexico, 274 00:16:06,137 --> 00:16:08,553 and my dad's surfing all the time, to, you know, 275 00:16:08,588 --> 00:16:11,073 full-bore, get this windsurfing thing going. 276 00:16:11,108 --> 00:16:12,833 [MUSIC PLAYING] 277 00:16:20,703 --> 00:16:24,845 The windsurfer was the fastest growing sport in the world. 278 00:16:25,950 --> 00:16:27,055 Bar none. 279 00:16:27,641 --> 00:16:29,505 And the reason it was like that is because 280 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:31,231 everybody was on the same product 281 00:16:31,266 --> 00:16:32,612 and the class got bigger, 282 00:16:32,646 --> 00:16:34,545 bigger, bigger and bigger and bigger. 283 00:16:41,621 --> 00:16:46,591 DICK LAMB: It was the fastest any sport had ever come before conception 284 00:16:47,385 --> 00:16:49,042 and Olympic status. 285 00:16:49,077 --> 00:16:51,596 So that was quite a coup 286 00:16:51,631 --> 00:16:54,668 for Hoyle and Diane, and for the sport in general. 287 00:16:54,703 --> 00:16:57,740 ♪♪ Mucho mistrust Love's gone behind 288 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:03,539 ♪♪ In between 289 00:17:03,574 --> 00:17:07,750 ♪♪ What I find is pleasing And I'm feeling fine... ♪♪ 290 00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:11,478 In those early days, everything came from Windsurfer International, 291 00:17:11,513 --> 00:17:14,895 it was Hoyle and Diane putting on the North American Championships, 292 00:17:14,930 --> 00:17:17,312 giving funding to winners 293 00:17:17,346 --> 00:17:22,006 of regional events to get an airfare, to get to the national championships. 294 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:24,388 That's how I got to Berkeley in '76, was winning 295 00:17:24,422 --> 00:17:27,287 the Hawaii State Championships and getting a free airfare. 296 00:17:29,324 --> 00:17:32,154 RHONDA SMITH-SANCHEZ: One of my fondest memories 297 00:17:32,189 --> 00:17:36,503 is watching Diane Schweitzer jibe around the mark 298 00:17:36,538 --> 00:17:39,127 at Nassau, Bahamas, in 1976. 299 00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:41,612 It was the last time I actually saw her on the water, racing, 300 00:17:42,475 --> 00:17:44,477 and I just remember feeling, 301 00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:48,895 oh, my gosh, I'm on the water with the mother of windsurfing. 302 00:17:53,382 --> 00:17:55,488 If you did not know my mom, 303 00:17:55,522 --> 00:17:59,319 you would not realize how tough she is. 304 00:17:59,354 --> 00:18:01,597 I mean, there was just through the ups and downs, 305 00:18:01,632 --> 00:18:03,254 she was always positive. 306 00:18:03,289 --> 00:18:06,154 There was no way anything was going to bring her down. 307 00:18:06,188 --> 00:18:10,882 DIANE: We actually reached a point where I was just so... pinching pennies. 308 00:18:10,917 --> 00:18:13,092 We had a milk delivery in those days. 309 00:18:13,126 --> 00:18:15,956 So I kept buying more and more and more from them 310 00:18:15,991 --> 00:18:18,580 because I only had to pay once a month. [LAUGHS] 311 00:18:18,614 --> 00:18:20,754 Unfortunately, we ate a lot of cottage cheese 312 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:23,240 and hot dogs and eggs in those days. 313 00:18:30,178 --> 00:18:33,388 MATT: Even when windsurfing in the very beginning was questionable 314 00:18:33,422 --> 00:18:34,872 whether it would even make it or not, 315 00:18:34,906 --> 00:18:37,978 she was determined it would work as much as my dad. 316 00:18:38,013 --> 00:18:40,291 She has just as much success 317 00:18:40,326 --> 00:18:42,983 in the story as my father did. 318 00:18:46,021 --> 00:18:50,198 DIANE: Some people say, "Oh that was just so easy for you guys. 319 00:18:50,232 --> 00:18:52,579 "It just exploded and isn't that wonderful?" 320 00:18:52,614 --> 00:18:54,409 Well, it didn't just explode. 321 00:18:54,443 --> 00:18:57,964 It took years of hard work and, you know, 322 00:18:57,998 --> 00:19:00,587 trying to get the word out. 323 00:19:00,622 --> 00:19:04,246 And the funny thing was, there was an explosion, which there was. 324 00:19:04,281 --> 00:19:05,558 It started in Europe. 325 00:19:16,327 --> 00:19:19,019 DICK: The three importers in Germany, for example, 326 00:19:19,054 --> 00:19:21,988 they gave away 1000 boards 327 00:19:22,022 --> 00:19:24,128 to ski instructors, 328 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:27,580 Olympic champions, jet setters in one year. 329 00:19:27,614 --> 00:19:29,858 I think that was 1973. 330 00:19:29,892 --> 00:19:32,792 The next year, they sold 40,000 boards, 331 00:19:32,826 --> 00:19:35,001 and suddenly, it exploded in Europe 332 00:19:35,035 --> 00:19:36,830 because all of the cool people, 333 00:19:36,865 --> 00:19:38,798 you know, celebrities were seen on boards, 334 00:19:38,832 --> 00:19:40,248 including Prince Charles. 335 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:49,049 GERRY: In 1973, I moved to Maui. 336 00:19:49,084 --> 00:19:52,984 Ho'okipa was our spot, you know. We had to go early in the morning 337 00:19:53,019 --> 00:19:57,610 before the wind blew, and every day that trade winds started blowing, and oh, man. 338 00:19:59,025 --> 00:20:00,889 You know? So it was like, you know, 339 00:20:00,923 --> 00:20:07,309 even at best, Ho'okipa's kind of a mediocre wave. 340 00:20:07,344 --> 00:20:13,073 And one day, your dad and Mike Waltze showed up with these big boards, 341 00:20:13,108 --> 00:20:15,317 you know, and they had these sails, 342 00:20:15,352 --> 00:20:17,975 you know, and none of us had ever seen anything like it, 343 00:20:18,009 --> 00:20:20,564 and they rigged up these things, you know, 344 00:20:20,598 --> 00:20:25,189 and it was already all windy, and also we were all sitting on the beach. 345 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:29,745 What happened next totally changed our lives, and blew our minds. 346 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,541 You know, before foot straps, before harnesses, 347 00:20:32,576 --> 00:20:36,373 these are two kids, you know, and they sailed out there 348 00:20:36,407 --> 00:20:40,411 and all those waves that caught us inside at Ho'‘okipa forever, 349 00:20:40,446 --> 00:20:43,897 they jumped the white water, all those waves that... 350 00:20:45,347 --> 00:20:47,349 were just, you know, too far over here, 351 00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,834 and it's over there and you can't get to it. 352 00:20:49,869 --> 00:20:52,872 They would zoom around on those windsurfers. They caught all the waves. 353 00:20:52,906 --> 00:20:56,496 We just stood there with our mouths open going... [GASPS] 354 00:20:56,531 --> 00:20:58,049 I mean, what do you call these things? 355 00:20:58,084 --> 00:20:59,913 And they go, "Oh, this is a windsurfer." 356 00:21:00,811 --> 00:21:01,984 Oh, I never heard of that. 357 00:21:03,365 --> 00:21:05,436 And that was the beginning. 358 00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:09,026 Gerry had decided to come and totally embrace the sport of windsurfing. 359 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:11,787 I was very surprised because he was a hero. 360 00:21:16,136 --> 00:21:18,069 We looked at him in all the magazines, 361 00:21:18,104 --> 00:21:19,761 we watched how he turned, we... 362 00:21:19,795 --> 00:21:21,797 we learned everything we could about him. 363 00:21:21,832 --> 00:21:23,178 And then next we knew he was, 364 00:21:23,212 --> 00:21:24,869 he was actually at '‘okipa, 365 00:21:24,904 --> 00:21:26,319 learning how to windsurf. 366 00:21:26,354 --> 00:21:28,321 [MUSIC PLAYING] 367 00:21:41,369 --> 00:21:43,543 GERRY: And then there was a couple of years there 368 00:21:43,578 --> 00:21:46,788 where I didn't even put the surfboards in the car. 369 00:21:46,822 --> 00:21:49,411 RHONDA: Gerry, at Ho'okipa, really stood out. 370 00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:52,000 He surfed the waves like he would... 371 00:21:52,034 --> 00:21:54,554 surf, you know, pipeline or something. 372 00:21:54,589 --> 00:21:58,455 He had more moves on a face. You could just see it. It was very smooth. 373 00:21:58,489 --> 00:22:00,180 It was the greatest thing, you know... 374 00:22:01,043 --> 00:22:03,770 to have that kind of mobility, and... 375 00:22:03,805 --> 00:22:06,290 to have that kind of power and speed, and... 376 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,362 to have the playground suddenly 377 00:22:09,397 --> 00:22:13,366 become much bigger than it ever had been on a surfboard. 378 00:22:27,242 --> 00:22:31,867 It's so, it's weird, it's how I cavitated only when I did sharp turns. 379 00:22:31,902 --> 00:22:33,662 But a couple of times, when I'd gas it, 380 00:22:33,697 --> 00:22:35,699 It sounded like it was cavitating... 381 00:22:35,733 --> 00:22:38,218 PETE CABRINHA: The Strapped Crew, it was just a bunch of us 382 00:22:38,253 --> 00:22:40,497 that were kind of embarking on this, 383 00:22:40,531 --> 00:22:43,500 this whole new connected surfing idea, 384 00:22:43,534 --> 00:22:46,123 which was happening right at the same time 385 00:22:46,157 --> 00:22:48,746 as the whole tow surfing concept. 386 00:22:48,781 --> 00:22:51,542 ALBEE LAYER: I would say, like, them putting foot straps on, 387 00:22:51,577 --> 00:22:54,407 using tiny boards and whipping into 30-foot waves, 388 00:22:54,442 --> 00:22:57,134 they'd invented a new sport within surfing 389 00:22:57,168 --> 00:23:00,240 that changed everything that was possible at the time. 390 00:23:00,275 --> 00:23:02,898 And that all came from them windsurfing. 391 00:23:03,278 --> 00:23:07,351 This is one, perhaps one of the very first strap boards. 392 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:12,149 This is a board that Buzz Kerbox and Laird Hamilton 393 00:23:13,702 --> 00:23:19,398 were towing behind a boat on the river in Kauai, 394 00:23:19,432 --> 00:23:21,400 just sort of skurfing behind it. 395 00:23:21,434 --> 00:23:23,919 But it definitely showed, you know, 396 00:23:23,954 --> 00:23:27,647 what connected surfing would feel like. 397 00:23:27,682 --> 00:23:29,373 BRETT LICKLE: You have open-minded people 398 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:31,340 and you have closed-minded people. 399 00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:35,379 Gerry Lopez, that mind's as open as you'll ever meet. 400 00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:38,417 Laird Hamilton. As open as you'll ever meet. 401 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:41,454 There is no boundaries. There is no way to do things. 402 00:23:43,249 --> 00:23:45,113 GERRY: When Laird, Derek and Buzzy 403 00:23:45,147 --> 00:23:48,047 started towing with that Zodiac, you know I... 404 00:23:48,081 --> 00:23:49,911 and then they moved to Maui, I go, 405 00:23:49,945 --> 00:23:52,776 hey, you know what, you guys, I'm going to show you one place. 406 00:23:52,810 --> 00:23:56,158 This is the place you want to go with that boat of yours. 407 00:24:09,344 --> 00:24:12,312 LAIRD: The use of speed and the use of the board 408 00:24:12,347 --> 00:24:14,591 that I learned in windsurfing really 409 00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:16,627 helped me when I started towing in giant surf. 410 00:24:16,662 --> 00:24:19,803 You know, as a training device, it was really complementary 411 00:24:19,837 --> 00:24:21,045 to the big wave riding. 412 00:24:28,639 --> 00:24:31,228 Boom sha-laka laka boom! 413 00:24:37,545 --> 00:24:40,789 A lot of surfers here on Maui got interested in windsurfing, 414 00:24:40,824 --> 00:24:44,586 but we have a new sport now called tow surfing 415 00:24:44,621 --> 00:24:46,070 that we do with jet skis. 416 00:24:47,555 --> 00:24:50,661 A friend of mine had shown me the place in the '60s. 417 00:24:50,696 --> 00:24:53,492 Oh, we used to call it the Atom Blaster. 418 00:24:53,526 --> 00:24:55,942 And then, you know, in the '70s, we... 419 00:24:55,977 --> 00:24:57,668 Let's go check Jaws, because any time 420 00:24:57,703 --> 00:25:00,119 there's a big swell, northwest swell, 421 00:25:00,153 --> 00:25:01,776 we'd always go down there. 422 00:25:01,810 --> 00:25:04,641 The whole idea about catching waves early, 423 00:25:04,675 --> 00:25:07,471 and being on the wave and riding them was because of windsurfing. 424 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,198 And once you had that, and you saw what that could do, 425 00:25:10,232 --> 00:25:12,787 we were just figuring out how to get other powered boards. 426 00:25:12,821 --> 00:25:15,652 [MUSIC PLAYING] 427 00:25:53,655 --> 00:25:56,175 PETE: I really feel like now it has become 428 00:25:56,209 --> 00:25:58,177 surfing's innovation ground zero, 429 00:25:58,211 --> 00:25:59,696 I think, when you look at 430 00:25:59,730 --> 00:26:01,145 all that's come out of here 431 00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:02,422 in the last two decades. 432 00:26:13,744 --> 00:26:15,815 Well, first of all, what enticed me most about it, 433 00:26:15,850 --> 00:26:17,576 because when I first saw windsurfing, 434 00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:20,164 it was flat water and the guy has huge booms, 435 00:26:20,199 --> 00:26:22,581 and triangle sails, and they were just going back and forth. 436 00:26:22,615 --> 00:26:24,065 It was more of a sailing sport. 437 00:26:24,099 --> 00:26:26,446 Because as soon as I saw the thing leave the water, 438 00:26:26,481 --> 00:26:27,793 that was what got my attention. 439 00:26:32,936 --> 00:26:34,420 It was like really right 440 00:26:34,454 --> 00:26:36,629 at the windsurfer transition 441 00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:38,735 from taking that plain, simple windsurfer 442 00:26:38,769 --> 00:26:40,529 and making it actually work 443 00:26:40,564 --> 00:26:42,324 for more than just sailing around in flat water. 444 00:26:49,953 --> 00:26:51,644 MATT: When the foot straps came out 445 00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:53,646 in smaller boards, you're flying. 446 00:26:53,681 --> 00:26:56,615 All of a sudden, it's like full on motocross. 447 00:26:56,649 --> 00:26:58,686 Everything's just stepped up. 448 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,828 All you can think about every day is just windsurfing, windsurfing. 449 00:27:02,862 --> 00:27:05,416 MAN: When windsurfing blossomed here on Maui 450 00:27:05,451 --> 00:27:06,728 with worldwide attention, 451 00:27:06,763 --> 00:27:09,386 it was already big in Europe. 452 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,320 ♪♪ I walked along the avenue 453 00:27:12,354 --> 00:27:17,152 ♪♪ I never thought I'd meet A girl like you... 454 00:27:17,187 --> 00:27:18,637 KLAUS SIMMER :Everybody goes where the energy is. 455 00:27:18,671 --> 00:27:19,914 And I think windsurfing, 456 00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:21,950 they got that ball rolling big time. 457 00:27:21,985 --> 00:27:25,782 And it sucked everybody in into it around the world. 458 00:27:25,816 --> 00:27:29,993 ♪♪ The kind of eyes That hypnotize me through 459 00:27:30,027 --> 00:27:31,511 ♪♪ Hypnotize me through ♪ 460 00:27:31,546 --> 00:27:33,479 Things were changing. They were cutting boards down. 461 00:27:33,513 --> 00:27:35,757 They were like attaching foot straps to them. 462 00:27:35,792 --> 00:27:39,485 They were making harnesses so that you could ride longer. All this kind of stuff. 463 00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:42,626 CRAIG YESTER: The wave riding that you could do is second to none. 464 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:44,110 You can do everything except getting barreled, 465 00:27:44,145 --> 00:27:46,699 but back then, aerials weren't happening in surfing, 466 00:27:46,734 --> 00:27:48,597 so we were kind of the pioneers in that. 467 00:28:12,138 --> 00:28:15,521 KALEO ROBERSON: It grew really fast. It was the faster growing sport in certain ways. 468 00:28:15,555 --> 00:28:18,006 It appealed to a lot of people. At that moment, it was taking off 469 00:28:18,041 --> 00:28:20,215 like nothing you've ever seen before. 470 00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:23,460 More than foiling, kiting, any of these sports now, 471 00:28:23,494 --> 00:28:27,015 if you witnessed how windsurfing grew back in the day, it was insane. 472 00:28:28,258 --> 00:28:30,743 [CHEERING] 473 00:28:31,054 --> 00:28:33,953 REPORTER: I was talking about that maneuver that you did against Dave Kalama. 474 00:28:33,988 --> 00:28:35,921 Well, it's an aerial 360. 475 00:28:37,094 --> 00:28:39,338 We used to do 360s right on the wave. 476 00:28:39,372 --> 00:28:42,513 And lately we've been just been coming out and doing aerials. 477 00:28:42,548 --> 00:28:45,171 And it's working out. I think surfers dig it. 478 00:28:45,206 --> 00:28:46,759 It's kind of a cool move. 479 00:28:57,045 --> 00:28:58,737 KALEO: Back in the day, if you're a hardcore surfer 480 00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:00,980 and you drifted to windsurfing or kite boarding 481 00:29:01,015 --> 00:29:02,810 or foiling or standup paddling, 482 00:29:02,844 --> 00:29:04,570 you're just like, diluted your stock. 483 00:29:04,604 --> 00:29:06,917 Basically, it's like, well, this guy 484 00:29:06,952 --> 00:29:08,988 can't make it in surfing, so he's going to try 485 00:29:09,023 --> 00:29:11,784 and do a diluted version of it to make it in it. 486 00:29:11,819 --> 00:29:13,821 Surfers are closed-minded. 487 00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:16,616 And so when windsurfing came, if you weren't open-minded, 488 00:29:17,548 --> 00:29:19,688 windsurfing was for kooks. 489 00:29:19,723 --> 00:29:21,690 You know, and you heard it all the time. 490 00:29:21,725 --> 00:29:23,520 As, like, a surfer growing up here, 491 00:29:23,554 --> 00:29:25,798 I was almost taught to not like windsurfers. 492 00:29:25,833 --> 00:29:28,801 They were called wind kooks, and that was kind of, like, 493 00:29:28,836 --> 00:29:30,838 embedded in me as a young kid. 494 00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:32,943 I don't really know where from 495 00:29:32,978 --> 00:29:34,842 because my parents were windsurfers. 496 00:29:34,876 --> 00:29:38,259 KALEO: They were richer than us. They had all like 400 sponsors. 497 00:29:38,293 --> 00:29:39,950 Guys were making big money at it. 498 00:29:39,985 --> 00:29:41,745 Driving big, brand new trucks, And we're just... 499 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:43,782 a bunch of starving surfer rats on the other side, 500 00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:45,853 you know, trying to get some of that money 501 00:29:45,887 --> 00:29:47,958 that they are bringing, basically. 502 00:29:47,993 --> 00:29:52,204 MATT: There was friction between the windsurfers and the surfers. 503 00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:56,898 KALEO: At Ho'okipa, as we know, there's just a one way street. 504 00:29:56,933 --> 00:30:00,729 And all the windsurfers have to drive by our three pavilions. 505 00:30:00,764 --> 00:30:03,249 At all moments, those windsurfers would know 506 00:30:03,284 --> 00:30:05,251 there's 20 guys down there 507 00:30:05,286 --> 00:30:08,220 that want to break your face, and you have to drive by them. 508 00:30:08,254 --> 00:30:10,222 So you had to be really dedicated as a windsurfer. 509 00:30:10,256 --> 00:30:11,810 No! Oh, man! 510 00:30:12,638 --> 00:30:16,124 Well there was 100% war with surfers and windsurfers. 511 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:19,058 Like, anyone will tell you that lived in that era. 512 00:30:19,093 --> 00:30:21,681 -MAN: No, man. You got no right to be here. -MAN 2: [BLEEP]. 513 00:30:22,648 --> 00:30:25,582 The surfing and windsurfing feud has really died, 514 00:30:25,616 --> 00:30:28,792 and I think it's when... 'cause all the surfers were mainly fueling it. 515 00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:31,830 And then nowadays, surfing is so much bigger than windsurfing. 516 00:30:44,221 --> 00:30:46,327 JAMIE O'BRIEN: I never really was against windsurfing. 517 00:30:46,361 --> 00:30:48,708 I always thought it was really cool from day one, you know. 518 00:30:48,743 --> 00:30:50,469 I remember going to Maui when I was young, 519 00:30:50,503 --> 00:30:52,195 and that was the thing over there. 520 00:30:52,229 --> 00:30:54,162 And I'd hear things from surfers 521 00:30:54,197 --> 00:30:56,095 that you know, this windsurfer got beat up. 522 00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:58,442 This guy, this guy, that, whatever, and... 523 00:30:58,477 --> 00:31:01,342 And then, you know, windsurfing kind of faded away out here on the North Shore. 524 00:31:01,376 --> 00:31:04,966 I mean, man, I probably see one windsurfer a year around here, 525 00:31:05,001 --> 00:31:08,418 but Backyards used to be one of the best places in the world to windsurf. 526 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,979 ALBEE: Well, yeah, when we talk about like things 527 00:31:18,014 --> 00:31:19,739 surfing has taken from windsurfing, 528 00:31:19,774 --> 00:31:22,535 the speed, the big airs they do, 529 00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:25,400 but another thing is like the way they shape their boards. 530 00:31:25,435 --> 00:31:27,713 My shaper for Jaws was Sean Ordonez, 531 00:31:27,747 --> 00:31:29,301 who was a pro windsurfer. 532 00:31:29,335 --> 00:31:31,061 When we first started paddling Jaws, 533 00:31:31,096 --> 00:31:32,856 he was one of the people 534 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,928 who completely reimagined what a big wave gun looks like. 535 00:31:35,963 --> 00:31:40,174 And he drew a lot of inspiration or pretty much all inspiration 536 00:31:40,208 --> 00:31:42,728 from riding windsurf boards out there. 537 00:31:54,464 --> 00:31:57,708 KAI: When I'm surfing these giant waves, and I end up in a position 538 00:31:57,743 --> 00:32:00,401 where I'm going 50 miles an hour, 539 00:32:00,435 --> 00:32:03,887 and I hit a chop and I'm flying through the air, I'm comfortable. 540 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:07,408 I've been there before because I spent the entire summer 541 00:32:07,442 --> 00:32:10,998 flying on my windsurf gear, in complete control, 542 00:32:11,032 --> 00:32:14,208 but at the same time, out of control. 543 00:32:14,242 --> 00:32:16,865 And that's kind of the art of riding a big wave, 544 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,006 is you're never truly in control. 545 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,698 But you have a certain level of control 546 00:32:21,732 --> 00:32:23,596 to do what you want to do. 547 00:32:23,631 --> 00:32:25,840 And so windsurfing really prepared me for that. 548 00:32:30,293 --> 00:32:33,123 ZANE: What's the greatest reward from this 549 00:32:33,158 --> 00:32:34,883 is I have my dad's knowledge, 550 00:32:34,918 --> 00:32:37,576 and my grandfather's knowledge before me. 551 00:32:37,610 --> 00:32:40,648 I see it as a great opportunity to pass that on. 552 00:32:40,682 --> 00:32:45,929 And if we could kind of all have a chance to experience the ocean 553 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,967 and be embraced by the water, I truly do believe 554 00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,727 this world would be a better place. 555 00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:57,665 ALBEE: To me, the best way to define surfing 556 00:32:57,699 --> 00:33:00,288 is just being in the ocean, whether you're body surfing, 557 00:33:00,323 --> 00:33:02,601 whether you're like just riding the boogie boards. 558 00:33:02,635 --> 00:33:04,223 It's just all about being a waterman. 559 00:33:04,258 --> 00:33:07,019 At the end of the day that's... to me, the number one goal 560 00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:09,677 is to ride anything, surf anything. 561 00:33:09,711 --> 00:33:12,611 Whatever it is, don't limit yourself in the ocean. 562 00:33:12,645 --> 00:33:15,476 And, you know, it's the perfect place to challenge ourselves. 563 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,003 You know, surfing's great sport, but it's got problems, too. 564 00:33:25,037 --> 00:33:27,315 You can't surf in lakes and rivers, and even in the ocean, 565 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:28,834 you have to wait for just the right wave. 566 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:32,941 That's Matt and two of his friends windsurfing. 567 00:33:32,976 --> 00:33:34,184 That's what they call it. 568 00:33:34,219 --> 00:33:35,668 Actually, it was Matt's dad 569 00:33:35,703 --> 00:33:37,601 who thought up the idea a couple of years ago. 570 00:33:37,636 --> 00:33:41,053 YOUNG MATT: Like I got started by my dad, he invented it. 571 00:33:41,088 --> 00:33:46,817 I think it's hilarious that Matt chose to put his trophy case in the garage. 572 00:33:46,852 --> 00:33:49,613 There is some windsurfing trophies up there, too, but... 573 00:33:49,648 --> 00:33:52,030 mostly riding trophies. 574 00:33:55,861 --> 00:33:59,727 [LAUGHING] It's so important, he keeps it in the garage. 575 00:33:59,761 --> 00:34:01,177 [LAUGHS] 576 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,388 SHAWNEEN: You'd think he would display these someplace 577 00:34:05,422 --> 00:34:07,183 more visible to everybody. 578 00:34:07,217 --> 00:34:10,220 But again, windsurfing to him is such... so personal. 579 00:34:10,255 --> 00:34:13,051 It's not what he wants to prove to anyone. 580 00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:16,882 It's just something he accomplished and it's his. 581 00:34:16,916 --> 00:34:20,575 But I love that he chose our wedding picture to put in there, too. 582 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:28,066 PIETRO PORCELLA: Matt has been the real icon of this sport, 583 00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:34,934 from when he learned at the beginning, windsurfer number 5 or 6, 584 00:34:34,969 --> 00:34:40,078 to the first 15-20 years of the sport. 585 00:34:40,112 --> 00:34:42,908 MATT: We are at Sunset Beach, California. 586 00:34:42,942 --> 00:34:45,255 Believe it or not, that point, right up there 587 00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:47,740 is where I was born, up in Pacific Palisades. 588 00:34:47,775 --> 00:34:51,158 And this is the first time that we are really riding 589 00:34:51,192 --> 00:34:52,780 waves on a windsurfer. 590 00:34:52,814 --> 00:34:55,196 I was out here with my friend, Nat Mayer-Aitken. 591 00:34:55,231 --> 00:34:58,026 We were riding waves with a dagger board, 592 00:34:58,061 --> 00:35:02,376 and we'd pull it a little bit up and it never really worked that great. 593 00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:05,689 Rammed it into a rock and the dagger board broke, and I put the dagger board 594 00:35:05,724 --> 00:35:08,623 all the way down, had about this much showing. 595 00:35:08,658 --> 00:35:11,350 And next thing I knew, I didn't want to go in. 596 00:35:11,385 --> 00:35:12,869 The wind was ripping. 597 00:35:12,903 --> 00:35:14,388 It handled so much better. 598 00:35:14,422 --> 00:35:16,390 The next thing you know, we're bottom turning, 599 00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:19,600 and we're not doing big off the lips or anything. 600 00:35:19,634 --> 00:35:22,085 You know, this is a 12-foot, 42-pound board. 601 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,157 This is kind of where we started wave riding back in the day. 602 00:35:25,192 --> 00:35:27,987 Even though it's kind of ugly today and there is no waves, 603 00:35:28,022 --> 00:35:30,024 it has a special place in my heart. 604 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,820 Thinking about the younger days here. 605 00:35:46,937 --> 00:35:48,836 Yeah. This is where I was born and raised. 606 00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:50,286 Kind of weird coming back. 607 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,219 This is where we'd walk down the cliff 608 00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:53,806 and go surf down this area, 609 00:35:53,841 --> 00:35:55,636 and all these jetties right here. 610 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:57,465 We'd always be running down the beach 611 00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:58,915 with our surfboards every day. 612 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:06,957 So this driveway, 317, this is where I was born. 613 00:36:06,992 --> 00:36:09,028 That's a whole different gate and everything. 614 00:36:09,063 --> 00:36:11,514 There used to be a driveway in a circle in there. 615 00:36:11,548 --> 00:36:13,585 Riding our little mini bikes around it. 616 00:36:13,619 --> 00:36:15,345 This street would be filled with people 617 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,106 coming here sometimes for windsurf parties, 618 00:36:18,141 --> 00:36:19,832 and maybe a new board would happen. 619 00:36:19,867 --> 00:36:21,627 We'd have a party to show a new board 620 00:36:21,662 --> 00:36:23,595 or a new sail, a new mast, boom. 621 00:36:23,629 --> 00:36:26,114 Things were consistently happening out of this house. 622 00:36:26,149 --> 00:36:27,875 A lot happened here. 623 00:36:27,909 --> 00:36:29,704 Kind of have chicken skin thinking about it. 624 00:36:32,086 --> 00:36:35,434 Very strange to be in this neighborhood right now. 625 00:36:35,469 --> 00:36:39,300 MIKE: My entire life, I had always looked up to Matt, 626 00:36:39,335 --> 00:36:43,097 like my big brother, but also my sports icon. 627 00:36:43,822 --> 00:36:45,789 You know, the same way I would look at Gerry Lopez 628 00:36:45,824 --> 00:36:48,792 in surfing, but Matt was so talented, 629 00:36:48,827 --> 00:36:52,244 like, on everything he did and still is. 630 00:36:52,279 --> 00:36:55,627 LAIRD: Incredible motorbike rider. Incredible windsurfer. 631 00:36:55,661 --> 00:36:57,560 I mean, these are two kind of really separate things, 632 00:36:57,594 --> 00:37:00,356 but within that those, there's a lot of commonalities. 633 00:37:04,601 --> 00:37:06,569 ANNOUNCER: Schweitzer harnessing that wind. 634 00:37:06,603 --> 00:37:08,985 A great job on that bottom turning. 635 00:37:10,504 --> 00:37:13,679 Matt Schweitzer from Maui, Hawaii. 636 00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:15,543 [ALL CHEERING] 637 00:37:19,685 --> 00:37:21,687 ZANE: I mean, he's won 18 world titles 638 00:37:21,722 --> 00:37:24,069 and he is the most humble man I know. 639 00:37:24,103 --> 00:37:26,278 And if there is any lesson that he ever taught me 640 00:37:26,313 --> 00:37:29,177 growing up, it was make sure the helmet fits. [CHUCKLES] 641 00:37:32,629 --> 00:37:34,113 SHAWNEEN: I especially don't like when people say, 642 00:37:34,148 --> 00:37:35,839 "Well, why did Matt quit windsurfing 643 00:37:35,874 --> 00:37:37,738 "right in the middle of his career?" 644 00:37:39,291 --> 00:37:43,226 MATT: This is all, my dad and I put this together. 645 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:46,747 Photos by my father in 2004, 646 00:37:46,781 --> 00:37:49,059 and the ones from the water are me. 647 00:37:49,094 --> 00:37:50,302 That's my son and Laird. 648 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,409 This is when I was towing. 649 00:37:54,893 --> 00:37:57,102 I was towing, I was windsurfing 650 00:37:57,136 --> 00:37:59,794 at probably the best part of my life, 651 00:37:59,829 --> 00:38:01,727 because that was the healthiest 652 00:38:01,762 --> 00:38:04,074 part of my life and being young. 653 00:38:04,109 --> 00:38:06,422 And, yeah, I had to... 654 00:38:06,456 --> 00:38:08,458 I had to take a break for a while. 655 00:38:08,493 --> 00:38:11,392 Well, they don't really know that he didn't quit windsurfing. 656 00:38:11,427 --> 00:38:12,807 He got cancer. 657 00:38:12,842 --> 00:38:16,363 How can you be a professional windsurfer? 658 00:38:16,397 --> 00:38:18,434 And this was at the height of his career. 659 00:38:18,468 --> 00:38:22,230 I mean, he was still one of the top four windsurfers in the world, 660 00:38:22,265 --> 00:38:24,819 and really pushing the limits and he got the news. 661 00:38:24,854 --> 00:38:26,373 He had cancer. And not just cancer. 662 00:38:26,407 --> 00:38:28,133 Cancer caused by the sun. 663 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:32,413 MATT: Nobody knew what malignant melanoma was. 664 00:38:32,448 --> 00:38:35,002 Now, if you're an Australian, everybody knows about it, 665 00:38:35,036 --> 00:38:37,245 but I think still in the United States, 666 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,938 a lot of people don't understand that malignant melanoma 667 00:38:39,972 --> 00:38:42,354 is something that travels in your blood. 668 00:38:42,389 --> 00:38:45,668 And it could come out wherever it wants. In the bottom of your foot. 669 00:38:45,702 --> 00:38:48,291 Like I'm usually sunburned on my face and my nose. 670 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,914 It didn't come out here. I got it under my arm. 671 00:38:50,949 --> 00:38:52,744 SHAWNEEN: There were a couple of years there, 672 00:38:52,778 --> 00:38:55,747 we were fighting, literally, for his life. 673 00:38:55,781 --> 00:38:59,509 And then the repercussions of it and fighting infections. 674 00:38:59,544 --> 00:39:02,132 And he just realized really quickly 675 00:39:02,167 --> 00:39:05,170 his life had to completely alter if he wanted to change 676 00:39:05,204 --> 00:39:09,519 to be a husband to me and a father to his son, and be alive. 677 00:39:09,968 --> 00:39:12,280 And they removed my lymphatic system, 678 00:39:12,315 --> 00:39:16,008 and um... I feel so fortunate 679 00:39:16,043 --> 00:39:18,908 to be here right now talking to you guys. [LAUGHS] 680 00:39:21,324 --> 00:39:24,223 I would have not wanted to miss out on that part of the life. 681 00:39:24,258 --> 00:39:26,640 ZANE: You know, I think my dad always made sure 682 00:39:26,674 --> 00:39:29,436 to share with me how important it is 683 00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:31,886 to do what's right for yourself 684 00:39:31,921 --> 00:39:35,545 and do what's right for the people around you. 685 00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:38,030 SHAWNEEN: You know, Zane loves windsurfing as much as I did. 686 00:39:38,065 --> 00:39:41,655 And because Matt was forced into windsurfing, 687 00:39:41,689 --> 00:39:43,242 we didn't force our kids. 688 00:39:46,487 --> 00:39:49,904 ANNOUNCER: And the biggest wave of 2021... 689 00:39:51,285 --> 00:39:52,562 Zane Schweitzer! 690 00:39:52,597 --> 00:39:54,392 [CROWD CHEERING] 691 00:39:56,463 --> 00:39:59,707 ZANE: My dad was a pioneer. My grandfather was a pioneer. 692 00:39:59,742 --> 00:40:02,020 And now I have that opportunity 693 00:40:02,054 --> 00:40:05,437 with these new sports that are coming about, 694 00:40:05,472 --> 00:40:07,715 revolutionizing the world as we know it. 695 00:41:03,564 --> 00:41:06,291 ZANE: At home is the best place to be. 696 00:41:06,325 --> 00:41:10,122 I could practice everything I want and at the same time, 697 00:41:10,157 --> 00:41:14,610 be able to learn, hear stories from my grandparents while they're still here. 698 00:41:14,644 --> 00:41:17,613 You know, I mean, I hear stories... 699 00:41:17,647 --> 00:41:20,270 heroic stories of my grandmother, 700 00:41:20,305 --> 00:41:24,136 you know, selling her car just to get more materials 701 00:41:24,171 --> 00:41:26,000 to continue sewing sails, and... 702 00:41:26,035 --> 00:41:28,520 It makes me feel the sense of sacrifice 703 00:41:28,555 --> 00:41:32,006 and be proud of what has been created. 704 00:41:35,631 --> 00:41:39,635 Regardless of the invention, it's where it's came today. 705 00:41:39,669 --> 00:41:42,430 You know, my dad was the son of that, 706 00:41:42,465 --> 00:41:46,607 and I think you could imagine the pressure he may have felt a lot of the time, 707 00:41:46,642 --> 00:41:51,509 you know, to live up to these sacrifices his parents made. 708 00:41:51,543 --> 00:41:54,028 REPORTER: And Matt Schweitzer also of Hawaii, 709 00:41:54,063 --> 00:41:56,030 who has been winning sail board competitions 710 00:41:56,065 --> 00:41:58,619 since the day his father, Hoyle Schweitzer, 711 00:41:58,654 --> 00:42:01,139 created the original windsurfer prototype 712 00:42:01,173 --> 00:42:03,866 that started it all more than a decade ago. 713 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:05,350 And it all started here, 714 00:42:05,384 --> 00:42:07,490 on the surfing beaches of Southern California, 715 00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:09,803 when Hoyle Schweitzer and Jim Drake 716 00:42:09,837 --> 00:42:12,840 decided to combine the best of surfing and sailing. 717 00:42:12,875 --> 00:42:15,878 Today, over a million people enjoy sail boarding, 718 00:42:15,912 --> 00:42:18,294 the world's fastest growing sport. 719 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:28,166 I mean, I wish we could stop the cameras 720 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,547 and talk for a second about it. 721 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:41,869 MIKE: So Darby invented this stand on thing. 722 00:42:41,904 --> 00:42:44,182 But could you ever see somebody doing 723 00:42:44,216 --> 00:42:45,977 double forward loops on that, 724 00:42:46,011 --> 00:42:48,911 or sailing, you know, 50 knots speed? 725 00:42:48,945 --> 00:42:51,741 He invented the concept of standing on a craft. 726 00:42:51,776 --> 00:42:53,778 But Hoyle invented this thing that could be... 727 00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:56,021 just slightly changed. 728 00:42:56,056 --> 00:42:58,783 And if you look at the original windsurfer, number one, 729 00:42:59,784 --> 00:43:01,751 and what we're riding today, 730 00:43:01,786 --> 00:43:05,583 it's... it's arguably, the exact same thing. 731 00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:08,033 It's not a Model T Ford, but it's got four wheels, 732 00:43:08,068 --> 00:43:11,174 and doors and a motor in it and a clutch and a brake and, you know... 733 00:43:13,591 --> 00:43:16,352 ROBBY: Well, Darby's sail board was a sail board. 734 00:43:16,386 --> 00:43:19,666 It was literally like... a board, 735 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,738 and a little sail that you kind of stood behind and held. 736 00:43:22,772 --> 00:43:23,842 It was like... 737 00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:27,190 Huck Finn level windsurfing. 738 00:43:27,225 --> 00:43:30,608 It was less about an invention of a thing, a technical thing, 739 00:43:30,642 --> 00:43:33,507 and was much more about the invention of a sport. 740 00:43:34,439 --> 00:43:36,683 You can have a soccer ball, but you don't have soccer. 741 00:43:38,443 --> 00:43:41,101 MATT: It was a sad thing to see what had happened 742 00:43:41,135 --> 00:43:43,103 just 'cause I knew my parents deserved 743 00:43:43,137 --> 00:43:45,692 every penny of what they had done. 744 00:43:55,460 --> 00:44:00,051 DICK: My knowledge is that Hoyle and Jim Drake were pals 745 00:44:00,085 --> 00:44:02,329 and Hoyle was a surfer. Jim, a sailor. 746 00:44:02,363 --> 00:44:04,503 And they started talking about 747 00:44:04,538 --> 00:44:07,058 wouldn't it be fun to marry the two. 748 00:44:07,092 --> 00:44:10,924 Now Hoyle and Diane decided they thought 749 00:44:10,958 --> 00:44:12,408 they could commercialize this thing, 750 00:44:12,442 --> 00:44:14,134 and maybe bring it to the masses. 751 00:44:14,168 --> 00:44:15,722 So Hoyle went out 752 00:44:15,756 --> 00:44:17,585 and started to develop. 753 00:44:17,620 --> 00:44:19,242 He asked Jim to be his partner. 754 00:44:19,277 --> 00:44:21,866 Jim decided he didn't want any part of it. 755 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:25,110 SCOTT: He was, I think, quick to sell his half of the patent 756 00:44:25,145 --> 00:44:26,905 because Drake had other ideas 757 00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:29,080 about bigger goals for himself, 758 00:44:29,114 --> 00:44:31,220 of what he wanted to do with his life. 759 00:44:32,221 --> 00:44:36,259 And so when windsurfing took off and started making a bunch of money, 760 00:44:36,294 --> 00:44:39,090 I think Jim was a little bit jealous, sure, 761 00:44:39,124 --> 00:44:41,161 but he wasn't going to sue Hoyle over it. 762 00:44:41,195 --> 00:44:45,372 Hoyle was the one who insisted on getting a patent. 763 00:44:45,406 --> 00:44:48,513 And he was the one who asked me to draw the only drawing 764 00:44:48,547 --> 00:44:50,549 that ever existed at that time 765 00:44:50,584 --> 00:44:52,034 because he needed it for the patent. 766 00:44:52,068 --> 00:44:55,485 I was not all that enthused about getting a patent 767 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,696 because the idea of windsurfing, 768 00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:02,044 well, I had already succeeded in the extent to which I was interested in. 769 00:45:02,078 --> 00:45:07,739 It worked and it was fun and it would be more fun as it got better and better. 770 00:45:07,774 --> 00:45:13,711 Um... It didn't play in any role in my mind as a source of income. 771 00:45:13,745 --> 00:45:16,368 He didn't think it was going to work. 772 00:45:16,403 --> 00:45:18,750 He wasn't passionate about it as we were. 773 00:45:18,785 --> 00:45:21,960 Jim just said, "You know what, I can't keep doing this." 774 00:45:21,995 --> 00:45:25,515 And Hoyle was like, "No, I'm going to mortgage my house to the hilt 775 00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:27,794 "and sell my car." And you know and they lived at... 776 00:45:27,828 --> 00:45:31,349 They had this one super old beat up station wagon. 777 00:45:31,383 --> 00:45:34,559 And they just poured every ounce of energy, 778 00:45:34,593 --> 00:45:36,354 every dime they could muster 779 00:45:36,388 --> 00:45:38,425 to just keep teaching people how to windsurf. 780 00:45:38,459 --> 00:45:40,703 Most sports evolve, you know, different people, 781 00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:43,154 myriad different solutions and sources. 782 00:45:43,188 --> 00:45:44,811 Not this one, not windsurfing. 783 00:45:44,845 --> 00:45:46,674 Windsurfing started because Hoyle Schweitzer 784 00:45:46,709 --> 00:45:48,331 had a business plan, 785 00:45:48,366 --> 00:45:50,920 and he executed it for a decade and created a sport. 786 00:45:52,301 --> 00:45:58,169 Bad [BLEEP]. This is all bad, bad, bad, bad, bad stuff. 787 00:45:58,203 --> 00:46:02,518 -ZANE: Bad juju. -[MATT CHUCKLING] 788 00:46:02,552 --> 00:46:05,107 MATT: My dad wasted years of his life. 789 00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:24,782 SCOTT: And in this case, it seems to me 790 00:46:24,816 --> 00:46:27,785 that the big windsurfing corporations 791 00:46:27,819 --> 00:46:30,097 that wanted to make a lot of money 792 00:46:30,132 --> 00:46:32,272 on selling windsurfers 793 00:46:32,306 --> 00:46:34,861 did not want to have to pay the fee to Hoyle, 794 00:46:34,895 --> 00:46:36,759 and were looking for any way possible 795 00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:38,243 to get out from under it. 796 00:46:38,278 --> 00:46:42,178 And when Darby surfaced, he gave them an out. 797 00:46:54,363 --> 00:46:56,261 I think it's important for people to know though, 798 00:46:56,296 --> 00:47:00,679 that without Hoyle branding it, there may never been a sport, 799 00:47:00,714 --> 00:47:03,337 The debate on who actually invented windsurfing 800 00:47:03,372 --> 00:47:04,787 can go around and around and around. 801 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:08,411 But Hoyle Schweitzer and his group of friends, 802 00:47:08,446 --> 00:47:10,793 obviously, that put that final... 803 00:47:11,863 --> 00:47:13,969 functional production thing together 804 00:47:15,487 --> 00:47:17,317 invented the sport. 805 00:47:17,351 --> 00:47:20,078 You know, it wasn't just putting a surfboard and a sail together. 806 00:47:20,113 --> 00:47:22,909 It was putting the surfboard and the sail together, 807 00:47:22,943 --> 00:47:25,670 and then making something out of it, sticking with it. 808 00:47:25,704 --> 00:47:30,123 I honestly believe that Drake had a very big part 809 00:47:30,157 --> 00:47:33,298 in the engineering of everything. 810 00:47:33,333 --> 00:47:35,162 That's no doubt to me. 811 00:47:35,197 --> 00:47:41,030 And then Hoyle and Diane took it and ran with it, 812 00:47:41,065 --> 00:47:45,621 and made it what it is today and blessed so many of us. 813 00:47:45,655 --> 00:47:48,313 SHAWENEEN: Hoyle and Diane, they were in their mid-50s. 814 00:47:48,348 --> 00:47:49,901 They had found great success 815 00:47:49,936 --> 00:47:52,628 and I think they both made 816 00:47:52,662 --> 00:47:53,732 the hard decision of just 817 00:47:53,767 --> 00:47:54,837 saying, you know, let's... 818 00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:55,942 We've raised this baby. 819 00:47:55,976 --> 00:47:57,012 We've watched it grow. 820 00:47:57,046 --> 00:47:59,221 Let it go and let's 821 00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:00,498 move on ourselves, 822 00:48:00,532 --> 00:48:01,982 and let windsurfing grow 823 00:48:02,017 --> 00:48:03,294 as it was supposed to. 824 00:48:03,328 --> 00:48:04,709 BRETT: I am an inventor. 825 00:48:04,743 --> 00:48:07,056 I own, like, ten different patents 826 00:48:07,091 --> 00:48:08,713 and have never made them work. 827 00:48:08,747 --> 00:48:10,577 Because this is me. 828 00:48:10,611 --> 00:48:12,924 I'm the guy that makes it I am not the marketing guy. 829 00:48:12,959 --> 00:48:16,583 I'm not the guy that wants to... to spend my days in New York 830 00:48:16,617 --> 00:48:19,931 or somewhere at a trade show selling my goods. 831 00:48:19,966 --> 00:48:22,589 I want to be in the water, you know? 832 00:48:22,623 --> 00:48:24,832 And so I think that that's the biggest thing 833 00:48:24,867 --> 00:48:28,491 that everyone needs to take from this, that Hoyle gave his life for it. 834 00:48:31,632 --> 00:48:33,738 [SVEIN RASMUSSEN SPEAKING] 835 00:48:53,447 --> 00:48:58,107 MATT: If you think about it as a whole, people don't really even really care. 836 00:48:58,142 --> 00:49:02,008 People just want to go out and have fun riding these windsurfers, 837 00:49:02,042 --> 00:49:06,391 I'm very proud to be a family, 838 00:49:06,426 --> 00:49:08,083 having my father invent it. 839 00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:17,955 GERRY: Well Hoyle, I got to tell you that you really paved 840 00:49:17,989 --> 00:49:20,716 a lot of the road for myself to 841 00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:23,719 want to try and embrace new things 842 00:49:23,753 --> 00:49:26,411 because, before windsurfing, man, that's it. 843 00:49:26,446 --> 00:49:28,241 My whole life was surfing. 844 00:49:28,275 --> 00:49:32,038 Windsurfing was the first time that I attempted 845 00:49:32,072 --> 00:49:34,557 another water sport besides surfing. 846 00:49:37,146 --> 00:49:39,562 SPORTS COMMENTATOR: Something new in the way of water skiing contests. 847 00:49:39,597 --> 00:49:42,324 Enthusiasts of the fast-paced aquatic sport have done 848 00:49:42,358 --> 00:49:44,636 just about everything possible afloat. 849 00:49:44,671 --> 00:49:46,673 So now, they're taking to the air. 850 00:49:46,707 --> 00:49:48,433 The general idea is that the one who stays up 851 00:49:48,468 --> 00:49:50,194 the longest is the champ. 852 00:49:50,228 --> 00:49:51,919 LAIRD: Thomas Edison once said that 853 00:49:51,954 --> 00:49:53,438 all you need to be an inventor 854 00:49:53,473 --> 00:49:55,406 is an imagination and a pile of junk. 855 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,924 SCOTT: I think we kind of revel in that, 856 00:49:56,959 --> 00:49:58,581 you know, let's try something different. 857 00:49:58,616 --> 00:49:59,893 You know, let's keep it fresh. 858 00:49:59,927 --> 00:50:01,170 All these spin-offs that happen, 859 00:50:01,205 --> 00:50:03,000 you kind of need to give them a go first 860 00:50:03,034 --> 00:50:06,555 before you can write them off or dive in head first. 861 00:50:38,483 --> 00:50:40,313 LAIRD: I look at it now, when I think about it, 862 00:50:40,347 --> 00:50:42,522 we talk about it, I can really see 863 00:50:42,556 --> 00:50:44,179 the influence that windsurfing had. 864 00:50:44,213 --> 00:50:47,285 I've always said it had that, I knew the influence it had. 865 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,391 But maybe not quite the amount of influence. 866 00:50:58,779 --> 00:51:03,094 ROBBY: I mean windsurfing's legacy to water sports is pretty profound. 867 00:51:03,129 --> 00:51:07,547 Windsurfing, especially in Europe, was fricking huge. 868 00:51:07,581 --> 00:51:11,378 Everyone you meet over there, the CEOs of every big company, 869 00:51:11,413 --> 00:51:12,690 doesn't matter where you go. 870 00:51:12,724 --> 00:51:14,726 You meet people that used to windsurf, 871 00:51:14,761 --> 00:51:17,039 and it was the best part of their life. 872 00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:18,868 Right? Whether they still do it or not, 873 00:51:18,903 --> 00:51:20,629 it was the best part of their life. 874 00:51:23,528 --> 00:51:26,117 MIKE: It wasn't necessarily that windsurfing was 875 00:51:26,152 --> 00:51:27,946 the influence on other sports, 876 00:51:27,981 --> 00:51:31,122 but the people that were drawn to windsurfing, 877 00:51:31,157 --> 00:51:32,606 and windsurfing was the catalyst 878 00:51:32,641 --> 00:51:34,263 that brought all these people together. 879 00:51:35,747 --> 00:51:37,887 GRUBBY: The digital age and the information ages 880 00:51:37,922 --> 00:51:42,202 sped up innovation alarmingly fast. 881 00:51:42,237 --> 00:51:44,204 You can say the early windsurfing 882 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,448 is probably not that popular anymore. 883 00:51:46,482 --> 00:51:49,830 Windsurfing is probably phased out a lot due to kiting. 884 00:51:49,865 --> 00:51:52,419 LAIRD: The first time I saw a kite with water skis 885 00:51:52,454 --> 00:51:54,180 was Cory Roeseler's father, 886 00:51:54,214 --> 00:51:55,664 and that was in 1986 887 00:51:55,698 --> 00:51:57,804 in the South of France at a speed competition. 888 00:51:57,838 --> 00:51:59,288 You know, we looked at that and we were like, 889 00:52:00,427 --> 00:52:01,773 that's going to be something. 890 00:52:01,808 --> 00:52:02,947 But it wasn't something yet. 891 00:52:03,741 --> 00:52:06,226 Wait a second. Let's get a little wind first. 892 00:52:06,261 --> 00:52:08,470 ROBBY: Change is going to happen. 893 00:52:08,504 --> 00:52:11,645 Sometimes it's kind of in big circles and we come back to somewhere we, 894 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,545 we were at years and years ago, but we're doing it better. 895 00:52:14,579 --> 00:52:17,479 Look at foiling. Foiling is the thing now. 896 00:52:17,513 --> 00:52:19,929 It's been around forever. It was just the wrong time. 897 00:52:19,964 --> 00:52:22,553 The wrong approach, the wrong combination of elements 898 00:52:22,587 --> 00:52:24,762 that they've all been here in different ways before. 899 00:52:24,796 --> 00:52:26,453 But they were never packaged like that. 900 00:52:32,045 --> 00:52:34,289 That was the one Laird had over in Kauai. 901 00:52:35,704 --> 00:52:37,257 -MAN: That is the first one? -Yup. 902 00:52:37,292 --> 00:52:40,847 That's the first one that was cut and welded. 903 00:52:41,951 --> 00:52:45,058 [WAVES CRASHING SOFTLY] 904 00:52:55,896 --> 00:53:00,246 So windsurfing sort of reached its peak at some point, 905 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,628 perhaps in the late '80s or the early '90s, 906 00:53:03,663 --> 00:53:07,114 and all of a sudden, things like snowboarding came into play, 907 00:53:07,149 --> 00:53:08,702 and on top of that 908 00:53:08,737 --> 00:53:10,014 there were more and more sports happening. 909 00:53:10,048 --> 00:53:12,844 And so, the field got a lot bigger 910 00:53:12,879 --> 00:53:15,709 and more attention was being given to some of these other sports. 911 00:53:18,574 --> 00:53:23,234 Our numbers aren't where they were because we lost our introductory level. 912 00:53:23,269 --> 00:53:28,205 We lost Hoyle. We lost what Hoyle had put together 913 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,691 and that was a marketing formula that wasn't about wave riding, 914 00:53:31,725 --> 00:53:33,900 and it wasn't about anything more 915 00:53:33,934 --> 00:53:36,074 than introducing people to the sport. 916 00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:40,044 ROBBY: There is no bus. There is no... 917 00:53:40,078 --> 00:53:42,184 rags to riches to rags. 918 00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:43,634 It's all riches. 919 00:53:43,668 --> 00:53:46,188 Like, windsurfing doesn't have to always be 920 00:53:46,223 --> 00:53:47,879 the biggest sport in the world. 921 00:53:47,914 --> 00:53:51,469 It's still the frickin' best sport ever. 922 00:53:51,504 --> 00:53:54,403 CRAIG: The last of us that were into windsurfing on Oahu, 923 00:53:54,438 --> 00:53:57,475 we did all kind of, in early 2000s, 924 00:53:57,510 --> 00:53:59,236 we saw kiting, and we saw the fact 925 00:53:59,270 --> 00:54:02,446 that you can kind of jam around in a little bit less wind. 926 00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:05,172 It's just another part of the arsenal, you know? 927 00:54:05,207 --> 00:54:08,417 I mean, I don't hunt, but I'm sure the guys that hunt, 928 00:54:08,452 --> 00:54:11,178 they don't just have one little slingshot. 929 00:54:11,213 --> 00:54:14,251 Then they got their bow and arrow and their more better one, 930 00:54:14,285 --> 00:54:16,287 and then they got their rifle and... 931 00:54:16,322 --> 00:54:19,566 Same with the wind sports and the water sports, you know? 932 00:54:34,547 --> 00:54:37,550 While surfing is the root and is the Duke and the King 933 00:54:37,584 --> 00:54:40,415 and everything from the group of pioneers, 934 00:54:40,449 --> 00:54:43,245 five sports have exploded, and that's towing, 935 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,697 kiting, foiling, SUP 936 00:54:46,731 --> 00:54:49,769 and now winging. Every single one of those, 937 00:54:49,803 --> 00:54:52,254 you can directly trace the roots and they go to windsurfing. 938 00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:54,912 Sure, you can trace their roots deeper and they go to surfing. 939 00:54:54,946 --> 00:54:59,537 Windsurfing has been this DNA pot that's created all this other stuff 940 00:54:59,572 --> 00:55:03,230 through the people that were super active in it, which is pretty cool. 941 00:55:03,265 --> 00:55:06,820 I mean, to me kite-surfing was just three dimensional windsurfing. 942 00:55:06,855 --> 00:55:09,720 Like winging now, to me is just windsurfing. 943 00:55:15,173 --> 00:55:16,899 PETE: If you do something for 30 years 944 00:55:16,934 --> 00:55:20,489 and then there's another way to do a similar thing. 945 00:55:20,524 --> 00:55:23,492 But you threw in all these other elements. Now you've got to stand on a foil. 946 00:55:23,527 --> 00:55:25,632 Now you've got to hang on to this smaller wing, 947 00:55:25,667 --> 00:55:27,565 and see where this thing is going to take you. 948 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,464 There's something really interesting in that for me. 949 00:55:29,498 --> 00:55:31,466 That's the kind of stuff that either keeps me up 950 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:33,433 late at night thinking about or getting up 951 00:55:33,468 --> 00:55:35,228 early in the morning to go try and do it. 952 00:55:59,183 --> 00:56:02,497 MATT: Yeah, I think windsurfing had a very big purpose in life 953 00:56:02,531 --> 00:56:06,604 to go beyond what people thought you could do, 954 00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:09,883 and to expand the horizon. 955 00:56:16,338 --> 00:56:18,236 MARCILIO: Times have changed, you know? 956 00:56:18,271 --> 00:56:21,170 And yes, financially, back then, way better than it is now. 957 00:56:21,205 --> 00:56:23,241 No question. Guys are making a lot more money. 958 00:56:23,276 --> 00:56:25,727 But there's ways of seeing everything, you know? 959 00:56:25,761 --> 00:56:28,661 It's still a profession. Still pays the bills. 960 00:56:28,695 --> 00:56:31,802 You still have that as your job, and I don't think anybody 961 00:56:31,836 --> 00:56:34,529 that gets paid to go sailing every day, enjoy the beach, 962 00:56:34,563 --> 00:56:36,979 should be in a position to complain about it. 963 00:56:37,014 --> 00:56:38,740 Still, for me, it's still the dream. 964 00:56:45,643 --> 00:56:48,163 GERRY: All these different sports that we do, 965 00:56:48,197 --> 00:56:52,409 each one teaches us something about ourselves. 966 00:56:52,443 --> 00:56:57,068 Outside of the sport, all we have to do is keep our eyes and hearts open 967 00:56:57,103 --> 00:57:01,003 so that hopefully, when those lessons come, they make an impression. 968 00:57:01,038 --> 00:57:03,489 And we, "Ooh! I just learned something. 969 00:57:03,523 --> 00:57:04,628 "I've got to remember that." 970 00:57:20,506 --> 00:57:25,200 MATTY: The barriers are starting to be broken in the lineup, 971 00:57:25,234 --> 00:57:27,478 when it comes to just being 972 00:57:27,513 --> 00:57:31,517 so narrow-minded, and I'm guilty of it. 973 00:57:31,551 --> 00:57:35,693 Rolling up on a stand up paddleboard, a kite, a windsurfer, 974 00:57:35,728 --> 00:57:37,937 in most spots, you're gonna get hassled. 975 00:57:37,971 --> 00:57:40,146 Now that those barriers are being broken down, 976 00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:44,322 it's gonna let the innovation of water sports 977 00:57:44,357 --> 00:57:45,945 get pushed to much higher levels. 978 00:58:06,275 --> 00:58:09,520 ♪♪ She's got a smile That it seems to me 979 00:58:09,555 --> 00:58:13,282 ♪♪ Reminds me Of childhood memories 980 00:58:13,317 --> 00:58:18,356 ♪♪ Where everything was as Fresh as the bright blue sky 981 00:58:21,463 --> 00:58:24,639 ♪♪ Now and then When I see her face 982 00:58:24,673 --> 00:58:28,297 ♪♪ She takes me away To that special place 983 00:58:28,332 --> 00:58:33,648 ♪♪ And if I stare too long I'd probably break down and cry 984 00:58:36,374 --> 00:58:41,759 ♪♪ Whoa, oh, oh Sweet child o' mine 985 00:58:44,313 --> 00:58:49,526 ♪♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh Sweet love of mine 986 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,719 ♪♪ She's got eyes Of the bluest skies 987 00:59:10,754 --> 00:59:14,516 ♪♪ As if they thought of rain 988 00:59:14,551 --> 00:59:18,416 ♪♪ I'd hate to look Into those eyes 989 00:59:18,451 --> 00:59:22,351 ♪♪ And see an ounce of pain 990 00:59:22,386 --> 00:59:26,217 ♪♪ Her hair reminds me Of a warm safe place 991 00:59:26,252 --> 00:59:29,980 ♪♪ Where as a child I'd hide 992 00:59:30,014 --> 00:59:33,639 ♪♪ And pray for the thunder And the rain 993 00:59:33,673 --> 00:59:37,850 ♪♪ To quietly pass me by 994 00:59:37,884 --> 00:59:43,131 ♪♪ Whoa, oh, oh Sweet child o' mine 995 00:59:44,788 --> 00:59:50,656 ♪♪ Whoa whoa, oh, oh, oh Sweet love of mine 996 01:00:21,894 --> 01:00:24,448 ♪♪ Whoa, yeah 997 01:00:24,482 --> 01:00:29,626 ♪♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh Sweet child o' mine 998 01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:36,874 ♪♪ Whoa, oh, whoa, oh Sweet love of mine 999 01:00:39,946 --> 01:00:45,711 ♪♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh Sweet child o' mine 1000 01:00:45,745 --> 01:00:48,058 ♪♪ Ooh, yeah 1001 01:00:48,092 --> 01:00:53,339 ♪♪ Ooh, sweet love of mine 1002 01:01:58,887 --> 01:02:02,580 ♪♪ Where do we go? Where do we go now? 1003 01:02:02,615 --> 01:02:05,135 ♪♪ Where do we go? 1004 01:02:05,169 --> 01:02:09,173 ♪♪ Ooh, oh, where do we go? Where do we go? 1005 01:02:09,208 --> 01:02:13,730 ♪♪ Oh, where do we go now? 1006 01:02:13,764 --> 01:02:17,492 ♪♪ Where do we go? Sweet child 1007 01:02:17,526 --> 01:02:19,597 ♪♪ Where do we go now? 1008 01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:26,846 ♪♪ Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay Where do we go now? 1009 01:02:26,881 --> 01:02:31,161 ♪♪ Ah, ah Where do we go? 1010 01:02:31,195 --> 01:02:34,474 ♪♪ Oh, where do we go now? 1011 01:02:35,786 --> 01:02:39,721 ♪♪ Oh, where do we go? 1012 01:02:39,756 --> 01:02:42,448 ♪♪ Oh, where do we go now? 1013 01:02:43,863 --> 01:02:46,797 ♪♪ Where do we go? 1014 01:02:46,832 --> 01:02:49,524 ♪♪ Oh, where do we go now? 1015 01:02:49,558 --> 01:02:52,389 ♪♪ Now, now, now, Now, now, now, now 1016 01:02:52,423 --> 01:02:54,425 ♪♪ Sweet child Sweet child of mine 1017 01:02:54,460 --> 01:02:59,016 ♪♪ Sweet child 1018 01:02:59,051 --> 01:03:06,092 ♪♪ Of mine ♪ 1019 01:03:21,867 --> 01:03:24,248 BRETT: There's a lot of people that live on Maui 1020 01:03:24,283 --> 01:03:27,562 that work a night job at Mama's and surf all morning 1021 01:03:27,596 --> 01:03:30,047 and windsurf all day, and they make it work, 1022 01:03:30,082 --> 01:03:32,843 and they share a house with three other people or four other people, 1023 01:03:32,878 --> 01:03:36,951 and their car is worth the same as my kite... 1024 01:03:37,606 --> 01:03:38,815 you know? 1025 01:03:39,643 --> 01:03:43,164 But that's what makes them tick, and that's what, to me, 1026 01:03:43,198 --> 01:03:45,166 that's what this is all about. 1027 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,170 And it's why windsurfing was successful, because... 1028 01:03:49,204 --> 01:03:51,931 It was a passion, and the people that loved it 1029 01:03:51,966 --> 01:03:55,279 loved it at a level that, you know, was off the charts. 1030 01:03:55,314 --> 01:03:58,110 ZANE: Millions of people have changed their lives, 1031 01:03:58,144 --> 01:04:01,941 you know, due to windsurfing, and my grandfather has given 1032 01:04:01,976 --> 01:04:05,186 the opportunity for many people to... 1033 01:04:05,220 --> 01:04:08,223 connect with nature and practice a... 1034 01:04:09,017 --> 01:04:12,089 [CHUCKLES SOFTLY] this epic sport that I have so much passion for. 1035 01:04:12,124 --> 01:04:16,128 MIKE: Just to watch how much dedication they put into their love. 1036 01:04:16,162 --> 01:04:20,028 They just loved the sport, and they loved what it did to people. 1037 01:04:20,063 --> 01:04:23,204 Hundreds of thousands of people altered their life 1038 01:04:23,238 --> 01:04:26,138 because of something they showed them. 1039 01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:29,693 FRED: I just feel if Hoyle hadn't got a patent 1040 01:04:29,727 --> 01:04:34,560 and had a motivation to start contests that he did in California 1041 01:04:34,594 --> 01:04:37,701 and then venture out around the world and promote windsurfing, 1042 01:04:37,735 --> 01:04:40,946 that the sport probably would not have taken off. 1043 01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:45,157 Their family is gonna be... is and will be throughout history, 1044 01:04:45,191 --> 01:04:50,231 responsible for one of the great revolutions in ocean sports, 1045 01:04:50,265 --> 01:04:53,510 which has influenced all the stuff we do. 1046 01:04:53,544 --> 01:04:55,339 RHONDA: There's only one thing that they did for me. 1047 01:04:55,374 --> 01:04:58,515 They gave me an opportunity to change my life. 1048 01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:59,896 And I did. 1049 01:04:59,930 --> 01:05:04,003 I took it. And they were there the whole time. 1050 01:05:04,038 --> 01:05:08,421 GERRY: I think, Hoyle, you showed us that you've got to embrace new stuff. 1051 01:05:08,456 --> 01:05:11,079 Being a surfer, it's a great thing, 1052 01:05:11,114 --> 01:05:13,771 but there's a lot of other things as well, 1053 01:05:13,806 --> 01:05:14,945 so thank you for that. 1054 01:05:20,917 --> 01:05:24,265 They are most proud of just the heart, sweat, 1055 01:05:24,299 --> 01:05:30,064 tears, sacrifices they did to bring people together. 1056 01:05:30,098 --> 01:05:33,757 To enjoy the ocean, travel the world, 1057 01:05:33,791 --> 01:05:36,725 and do amazing things. 1058 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,454 MATT: I still get people all the time just saying, I am so thankful 1059 01:05:41,489 --> 01:05:45,700 for your mother and father inventing windsurfing because it saved our lives. 1060 01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:48,392 Even if some of them aren't still doing it from their age, 1061 01:05:48,427 --> 01:05:50,947 it was just a huge part of their lives, 1062 01:05:50,981 --> 01:05:52,776 the most exciting part of their lives. 1063 01:05:52,810 --> 01:05:55,917 I mean, how can you go wrong with giving somebody 1064 01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:58,264 the most exciting part of their lives? 1065 01:06:00,439 --> 01:06:03,994 [INAUDIBLE] 1066 01:06:27,155 --> 01:06:32,574 [PLANE WHOOSHING] 1067 01:06:36,682 --> 01:06:39,754 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 1068 01:06:42,481 --> 01:06:46,312 [WAVES CRASHING] 1069 01:06:52,215 --> 01:06:54,872 [INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING]