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[Gandy] My partner and I got
a call from dispatch.

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It says, uh, "Any narcotics
detectives in the area

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of Autumn Wood Drive
to come by."

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I went up to the bedroom.

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There was sheriff's
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over the place like ants.

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They were everywhere.

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It didn't even look
like Liston,

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he'd been dead for so long.

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He'd been dead
four or five days.

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He was bloated.

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He was full of methane gas.

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It really made me sick
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because he was such
a predominant figure

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in--in sports world.

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I just thought it was
a terrible, disrespectful way

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for him to go.

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[Farrell] Sonny Liston was
the greatest heavyweight

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who ever lived,
I have no doubt about that.

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He was a bona fide monster.

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[Assael] He punched
with the force

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of a government
crash test.

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[announcer] Westphal has never
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Sonny Liston was the first
intimidating fighter

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with the mean scowl
and the mean grin.

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He was a real badass,
a real menacing force.

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The way Sonny won most of his
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into the ring,
those eyes.

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[Collins] He was an ex-convict.

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- He was brutal.
- [grunts]

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He was mobbed up.

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He was a symbol of the champ
we didn't want.

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Sonny was in the epicenter
of a perfect storm,

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as far as what was going on
in society.

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The Civil Rights Era
was just starting,

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and he was the guy
in the middle

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that took all the grief.

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America needed to remind
the broader white public

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of the danger
that was black folk,

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and nobody represented that
danger more than Sonny Liston.

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[Roberts] We don't know how
Sonny Liston died,

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and in the void created
by the absence

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of rational explanation,
conspiracy filled it

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like a foul air.

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[Assael] The medical examiner
called it natural causes.

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But nobody around Sonny
believed that.

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Everybody believed
he was murdered.

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So many people wanted
Sonny dead.

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The only question is,
who got to him first?

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[Collins] Nobody really knows
when Sonny Liston was born.

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He often gave the date
of May 8th, 1932.

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But he was probably
older than that.

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There were no records.

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Not even the family Bible
had his birth date in there.

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So he was a mystery
right from the start.

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Sonny was the 24th
of 25 children.

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His father, Tobe,
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and with that many mouths
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I mean, Sonny knew what it was
to be hungry.

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[Long] In Forrest City,
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we were trying to survive.

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[Collins] He didn't really get
much of an education.

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he was eight years old.

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[Izenberg] The story--
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it's more than apocryphal--

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The mule dies,
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Hooks him up to the harness and
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[Majeski] He was whipped by
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to force him to work harder,

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and Sonny had the marks
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Getting beaten as a child,
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will really affect your
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you will live your
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[Roberts] All Sonny knows
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what does he see?

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He sees violence towards
black men, black children.

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[Jeffries] Jim Crow America
was violent.

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Jim Crow America
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as a boy, as a woman,
and literally your life

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Around 1946,
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in search of a better life.

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She ended up in St. Louis,
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So, um, he got a bus ticket
to go to St. Louis.

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[Jeffries] They called it
black folk

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in search of
the promised land.

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You get a couple million black
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The reality, though, uh,
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[Roberts] Sonny finds
his mother.

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Is the mother happy
to see him?

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Maybe a little.
Maybe not.

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Sonny is another mouth to feed,

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and then he's on the streets.

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the real poor section,

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and he saw how the poor
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[Majeski] Sonny Liston, after
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He went to rob a gas station,
he went to rob a restaurant,

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and he used a gun in the
commission of these crimes.

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[Collins] Sonny always wore
the yellow shirt.

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Police knew they were
looking for a guy

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wearing a yellow shirt,
and they got him.

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After Sonny was tried,
he got, um, five years in jail.

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to the penitentiary

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in Jefferson, which was
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[Majeski] Time Magazine
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the bloodiest 47 acres

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in America.
Gangs ruled it.

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There were fights
all the time.

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Guards were afraid to patrol
some of the d-blocks.

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Liston was brutalized
early in prison.

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I believe Liston had to fight
for everything he got there.

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It was a Darwinian existence.

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[Rigueur] His story becomes
about survival.

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Now, his story had always been
about survival,

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[Majeski] Father Stevens, who
was working at the prison

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got him into the boxing
program there.

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[Collins] Father Stevens was
trying to do a good turn

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for somebody he thought that
might have a chance

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to break away from
a life of crime.

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[Izenberg] Boxing has always
been

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a step ladder
for poor people

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without other skills.

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100 percent.

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[Tyson] Sonny Liston saw
boxing as a way out.

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He didn't wanna live that life
in prison no more.

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He didn't want to live
that life in the streets.

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and did so well.

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[Majeski] Sonny was a prodigy.
He was a revelation.

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This is a guy who could be
really an exceptional athlete.

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A great fighter.

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[Roberts]
And this is something good,

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that he can hang
his identity onto.

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This is what his
identity's all about.

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Sonny had beaten up all
the inmates that dared get in

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Father Stevens thought,
"Well, let's see how he could

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So they brought
in Thurman Wilson

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who was considered the best
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He lasted two rounds
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[Majeski] The manager Mitchell
who brought him in said,

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"I don't think I should
be managing Wilson.

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I should look into handling
Sonny Liston."

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As with everything
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there's always a subtext, okay?

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It turns out that
Frank Mitchell

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is connected to Johnny Vitale.

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Johnny Vitale is in the mob.

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And before you know it,
Sonny Liston is paroled.

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He doesn't have to serve
his full years.

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[alarm ringing]

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Also, Johnny Vitale,
he can offer two things.

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One is he could offer
an outside job,

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which is breaking
people's legs.

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[Majeski] Sonny was gonna be
head breaking

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against union breakers.

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And it was racketeering,
and it was picking up money

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for the loan sharks.

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[Roberts] But secondly, Johnny
Vitale knows a guy by the name

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of Frankie Carbo.

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Frankie Carbo
is the underworld

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boss of boxing.

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[man] Frankie Carbo, Mr. Gray,
the Superintendent,

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one of the most feared gunmen
of the Prohibition Era

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and the undisputed czar
of the professional sport.

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[Collins] You couldn't get
a big fight in most divisions

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if you didn't have Carbo
on your side.

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That's just the way it was.

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I mean, in a way, boxing has
been corrupt forever.

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So it wasn't anything new.

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But Carbo was more powerful
because he had an organization

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behind him and he had
a reputation as a murderer.

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[Majeski] Frankie Carbo would
kill you on a dime.

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Frankie was the real thing.

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He was 100 percent gangster.

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There was no question
about that.

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But Frankie Carbo
loved boxing.

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[Collins] Sonny decided, you
know, if I'm ever gonna make

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anything out of my life,
I gotta go with these guys

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because they're the ones that
can get me where I wanna go.

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[Jeffries] He chooses
this path,

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and I don't know how many
of us

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would choose
something different,

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uh, given the exact same set
of choices that we had.

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Before you turn professional,
it's good to get an amateur

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career--an amateur tryout,
if you will.

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So Sonny enters into
the Golden Gloves tournament.

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♪ dramatic music ♪

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He won the Chicago
Golden Gloves.

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♪♪♪

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[Collins] And then Sonny Liston
went on to win

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the national Golden Gloves,

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and that really put him
on the map.

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And by September of 1953,
he turned professional.

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♪♪♪

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Liston got the attention
of the boxing world

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very, very early,
but you have to understand

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that even with mob-controlled
fighters,

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especially if they're
black fighters,

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you have to go through
a baptism of fire.

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Nobody hands you anything.

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He's tested right away
from the very beginning.

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He's not fighting real
stumblebums.

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♪♪♪

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He won his first fight by
knockout and then continued

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the early series of bouts
in St. Louis

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winning by knockouts.

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He was a straight-up fighter
that came forward,

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looked to seek and destroy you.

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If he hit you with a good
punch, he knocked you out.

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♪♪♪

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If you wanted to build
a perfect heavyweight,

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you would use Sonny Liston
as your model.

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He heralded in the era
of giant heavyweights

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without, in fact, being
a giant heavyweight himself.

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He was only a little bit over
six feet tall,

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and he weighed about
200 pounds.

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[announcer] That's our newest
youngster, the Sonny Liston.

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[Farrell] Liston's reach
was 86 inches,

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which was the greatest reach
of any heavyweight champion

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in history with a possible
exception of Primo Carnera.

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[announcer] Trying to stay
with the bigger Liston.

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Harris gets hit with
a left hook and goes down.

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[cheers and applause]

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He was enormously powerful
through the shoulders.

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He had long arms.

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His fists were like
huge hams.

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His jab was his
greatest weapon,

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and it was the greatest jab
any heavyweight's ever had.

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Most fighters use jabs just
to set the opponent up.

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Usually it's not that hard.

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But Sonny Liston used it
as a weapon--boom--

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to knock you out
and knock you down.

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♪♪♪

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[Roberts] Sonny's left jab was
a nose-cracking,

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teeth-busting,
jaw-dropping experience.

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And they said getting hit
by his jab was like getting hit

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by a pole.

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♪♪♪

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Well, Sonny Liston had a big
menacing tough guy reputation,

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and that's what preceded him
in the ring.

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He intimidates the fighter.

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The fighter's really beaten
before he even

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got in the ring.

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Sonny could pull it off.
I could pull it off.

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Not a lot of people
could pull it off.

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♪♪♪

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Sonny, uh, what advice would
you give to a young lad

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who came to you and said,
"I want to become a boxer?"

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What would you tell him as
regards training and so forth?

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Well, they always told me
anything you wanna do,

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do your best and be
the best at it.

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[Collins] I don't think the
general public ever knew

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the real Sonny Liston.

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They knew the persona,
the thug-like guy who just

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knocked everybody out and was
associated with the mob

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and been in jail.

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He wasn't really that.
That was a front.

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That was like what he needed
to protect himself

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and also to intimidate
his opponents.

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He was a very sensitive person.

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He could be hurt easily.

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♪ dramatic music ♪

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[Long] Uncle Charles--we didn't
call him Sonny at that time--

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was really a soft and gentle
person, seriously.

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00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:45,834
And so I didn't understand
how they, you know,

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00:15:45,917 --> 00:15:48,917
I think at some point they
called him the Bear.

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00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000
But he was never like
that with me.

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♪♪♪

339
00:15:54,417 --> 00:15:59,500
He wanted me to be a little
bit above where he came from.

340
00:15:59,583 --> 00:16:01,875
Is the term "surrogate parent"?

341
00:16:01,959 --> 00:16:03,375
He was really close to me.

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00:16:03,458 --> 00:16:06,542
♪♪♪

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00:16:06,625 --> 00:16:09,166
[Izenberg] He was respectful
of kids and old people,

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'cause they posed no threat
to him.

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00:16:14,083 --> 00:16:16,875
And most of all, he was
very respectful of Geraldine.

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He's a good man and he's
a kind man

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00:16:20,667 --> 00:16:23,875
and worthy of a chance
to contribute to society.

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I am Mrs. Sonny Liston.

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♪♪♪

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[Izenberg] Geraldine was
so different than Sonny.

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00:16:36,083 --> 00:16:39,792
I always wondered how
they met.

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00:16:40,625 --> 00:16:42,917
So one day I asked her.

353
00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,375
And she said to me, "Well, you
know, Sonny picked me up."

354
00:16:46,458 --> 00:16:47,250
I didn't know what
she meant by that.

355
00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:50,667
She said, "No, I mean he
picked me up.

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00:16:50,750 --> 00:16:52,291
It was raining.

357
00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:55,083
I was standing on a St. Louis
street corner.

358
00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:59,083
Sonny pulls up in this big
car, puts me in the car,

359
00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:02,208
and then says, 'A little lady
like you should not be standing

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00:17:02,291 --> 00:17:03,583
out in the rain.'"

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00:17:03,667 --> 00:17:07,417
♪♪♪

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00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:10,417
[Reddish Jr.] Geraldine Liston
was a beautiful lady

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who loved her Charles.

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00:17:13,166 --> 00:17:16,250
I could hear her right now
say, "Charles?"

365
00:17:16,333 --> 00:17:17,917
And he'd, "Yes, dear?"

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00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,750
She was his blanket,
I'll say.

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00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:25,625
She covered him
and kept him warm.

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00:17:25,709 --> 00:17:26,625
And loved him.

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00:17:26,709 --> 00:17:29,792
♪♪♪

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[Collins] Geraldine
probably knew

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that Sonny was running
around with other women.

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00:17:34,709 --> 00:17:38,542
But there's a lot of women,
they'd rather accept him

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messing around on the side
than lose him.

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00:17:41,917 --> 00:17:43,959
And I think that's pretty much
where she was.

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00:17:44,041 --> 00:17:46,291
I think in a way they really
loved each other.

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00:17:46,375 --> 00:17:51,333
♪♪♪

377
00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:53,333
You know, there was one thing
that Sonny was better at

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00:17:53,417 --> 00:17:56,125
than boxing, and that was
compartmentalizing himself.

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00:17:56,208 --> 00:17:59,166
He could be a loving husband,
he could be a womanizer,

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00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:01,083
he could be a criminal,
he could be a boxer.

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00:18:01,166 --> 00:18:03,917
That's what he was
a master at:

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00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,959
boxing and being able to lead
so many different lives.

383
00:18:07,041 --> 00:18:09,000
There were so many men
inside that one man.

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♪♪♪

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00:18:11,542 --> 00:18:15,625
[Roberts] By the mid-'50s,
he's a boxer of some repute.

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00:18:15,709 --> 00:18:17,667
He's a leg breaker
for the mob.

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00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:19,375
He's an alley dweller.

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00:18:19,458 --> 00:18:22,291
You know, Sonny never walked
on well-lit streets.

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00:18:22,375 --> 00:18:24,250
Sonny moved around in darkness.

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00:18:26,667 --> 00:18:29,750
So there was a running battle
between the police

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00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:33,291
and Sonny Liston.
The police harassed him.

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00:18:33,375 --> 00:18:35,917
[Jeffries] He wasn't just some
random black guy.

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00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,333
He was Sonny Liston--
gangster, criminal.

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Once you lose that anonymity
in the face of the police,

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00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:44,500
then you're really
gonna catch hell.

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00:18:44,583 --> 00:18:50,542
♪♪♪

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00:18:53,625 --> 00:18:55,375
[Assael] He had a target on
his back.

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00:18:55,458 --> 00:18:57,208
The St. Louis cops would roust
him any time they could.

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00:18:57,291 --> 00:19:00,208
Sonny was headed towards
a championship fight.

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00:19:00,291 --> 00:19:02,875
But he was also headed towards
a whole lot of heat.

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00:19:02,959 --> 00:19:04,917
♪♪♪

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00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,041
[Collins] One night, uh, Sonny
was, uh, leaving a party

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00:19:08,125 --> 00:19:12,166
and a policeman came over.

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00:19:12,250 --> 00:19:13,583
One thing led to another.

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00:19:13,667 --> 00:19:16,375
♪♪♪

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00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:18,250
The cop went to draw his gun,

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00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:21,041
and Sonny took it
away from him,

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00:19:21,125 --> 00:19:24,000
dragged him back in the alley,
and beat him up.

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00:19:24,083 --> 00:19:27,583
♪♪♪

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00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,333
The weird thing about that
was he was arrested

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00:19:29,417 --> 00:19:33,083
and he was charged,
but they only gave him

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nine months in the workhouse.

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00:19:35,291 --> 00:19:37,583
This is a black man
in St. Louis

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00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:40,417
beating up a cop
and taking his gun.

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00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:43,375
That was an unheard of
lenient sentence,

416
00:19:43,458 --> 00:19:47,417
and you gotta figure that there
was some people connected

417
00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,792
behind that.

418
00:19:49,792 --> 00:19:52,333
The mob makes their phone
calls and makes sure

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00:19:52,417 --> 00:19:54,542
that if they need a fighter
to be available

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00:19:54,625 --> 00:19:56,500
to the fight,
he's not kept inside

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00:19:56,583 --> 00:19:57,625
for any length of time.

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00:19:57,709 --> 00:20:00,583
And after that point,
Sonny was known as a cop hater.

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00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:05,834
♪♪♪

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00:20:12,542 --> 00:20:14,417
There's so much heat around
Sonny.

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00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,291
A police captain named
John Doherty

426
00:20:16,375 --> 00:20:17,291
takes him to the edge
of St. Louis,

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00:20:17,375 --> 00:20:20,291
puts a gun to his head,
and says,

428
00:20:20,375 --> 00:20:20,750
"Get the hell out of town."

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00:20:20,834 --> 00:20:26,667
♪♪♪

430
00:20:29,625 --> 00:20:30,959
[Roberts] Frankie Carbo
has henchmen

431
00:20:31,041 --> 00:20:34,041
throughout the country.

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00:20:34,125 --> 00:20:37,208
In Philadelphia,
his leading henchman--

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00:20:37,291 --> 00:20:39,709
his partner in crime--
was a guy by the name

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00:20:39,792 --> 00:20:41,250
of Blinky Palermo.

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00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,500
[Majeski] Blinky Palermo had

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00:20:43,583 --> 00:20:44,500
complete control of
Philadelphia.

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00:20:44,583 --> 00:20:46,792
Had complete control
of the commission.

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00:20:46,875 --> 00:20:48,500
Had complete control
of the promotions.

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00:20:48,583 --> 00:20:51,291
They could do with as they
wished in Philadelphia.

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00:20:51,375 --> 00:20:53,583
♪♪♪

441
00:20:53,667 --> 00:20:55,542
In Philadelphia,
Blinky Palermo

442
00:20:55,625 --> 00:20:57,125
and Frankie Carbo gave him
to Willie Reddish,

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00:20:57,208 --> 00:21:00,333
who was a legendary trainer.

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00:21:00,417 --> 00:21:01,583
♪♪♪

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00:21:01,667 --> 00:21:04,917
[Reddish Jr.] Gentleman walks
in with Sonny Liston,

446
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,959
talks to my father and say,
"Here he is, train him."

447
00:21:08,041 --> 00:21:10,125
Simple as that.

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00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:15,208
♪♪♪

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00:21:15,917 --> 00:21:17,709
He didn't talk about
hurting someone.

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00:21:17,792 --> 00:21:20,375
He didn't talk about
dealing anything.

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00:21:21,083 --> 00:21:24,208
He was doing just what his job
had given him.

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00:21:24,291 --> 00:21:25,750
To be a fighter.

453
00:21:25,834 --> 00:21:27,333
With Willie Reddish,
you know,

454
00:21:27,417 --> 00:21:28,083
he had to work for the first
time in his career.

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00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:30,625
He really had to train hard.

456
00:21:30,709 --> 00:21:32,333
And that was the missing piece
of the puzzle.

457
00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:34,792
♪♪♪

458
00:21:34,875 --> 00:21:36,667
[Farrell] They started putting
him in with the elite fighters

459
00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:40,417
of the heavyweight division--
the guys who nobody wanted,

460
00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,375
and the guys who really
would beat you.

461
00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:45,583
And Liston just steamrolled
every one of them.

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00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:48,041
♪♪♪

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00:21:48,125 --> 00:21:51,750
[Majeski] He defeats Julio
Mederos, destroys Wayne Bethea

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00:21:51,834 --> 00:21:53,250
on national television.

465
00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:55,208
Sixty-nine seconds after
the fight started,

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00:21:55,291 --> 00:21:58,333
Sonny knocked out
16 of his teeth.

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00:21:58,417 --> 00:22:00,667
It was a spectacular knockout.

468
00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:01,792
[announcer] Liston with
another left hook,

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00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:05,375
a right, and another left.
And Bethea is down!

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00:22:05,458 --> 00:22:07,250
[Majeski] He knocks out
Nino Valdes.

471
00:22:07,333 --> 00:22:09,166
He knocks out Mike DeJohn.

472
00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:12,041
He knocks out Zora Folley.

473
00:22:12,125 --> 00:22:13,291
He outpoints Eddie Machen.

474
00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:15,333
They were tough guys
for their time,

475
00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:18,250
and Sonny walked
right through them.

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00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:20,750
Sonny merely was in his own
version of Heaven.

477
00:22:20,834 --> 00:22:22,625
♪♪♪

478
00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:25,000
He was getting paid money
to knock people down,

479
00:22:25,083 --> 00:22:26,250
and nobody could arrest him.

480
00:22:26,333 --> 00:22:27,917
♪♪♪

481
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,750
And he got better
and better and better.

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00:22:29,834 --> 00:22:35,750
♪♪♪

483
00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:39,208
The most impressive fight,
he fights a guy

484
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:41,166
named Cleveland Williams.

485
00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:42,583
Sonny Liston
and Cleveland Williams

486
00:22:42,667 --> 00:22:44,166
is like Thor fighting Hercules.

487
00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:46,083
You know, it was
no holds barred.

488
00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:47,375
These are the two hardest
punching fighters

489
00:22:47,458 --> 00:22:48,959
in the world at that time.

490
00:22:49,041 --> 00:22:50,458
No one wanted to fight
either one.

491
00:22:50,542 --> 00:22:53,166
I remember both fighters
just swinging,

492
00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:54,125
swinging at the wind,
going for it.

493
00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:56,542
Trying to knock each other out.

494
00:22:56,625 --> 00:23:00,458
Cleveland Williams almost
knocked Sonny Liston

495
00:23:00,542 --> 00:23:02,625
out of the ring.

496
00:23:02,709 --> 00:23:04,166
He broke a rib.

497
00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:05,792
He battered him.

498
00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:08,333
He was lucky to make it
through the round.

499
00:23:08,417 --> 00:23:09,959
That was his epiphany.

500
00:23:10,041 --> 00:23:11,458
I think he saw that,
"If I'm gonna lose,

501
00:23:11,542 --> 00:23:14,125
I'll be back in prison,
I'll be back in poverty."

502
00:23:14,208 --> 00:23:14,792
And I think his managers
and trainers

503
00:23:14,875 --> 00:23:16,750
read the riot act to him.

504
00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:18,083
"Sonny, all you have is your
ability as a fighter.

505
00:23:18,166 --> 00:23:20,792
And you have to win."

506
00:23:20,875 --> 00:23:22,291
[announcer] Liston moves in
with lefts and rights.

507
00:23:22,375 --> 00:23:24,083
Hammer blows
to the head and body.

508
00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:25,333
[Majeski] Sonny doesn't give
up,

509
00:23:25,417 --> 00:23:26,959
and he knocks him out
in one

510
00:23:27,041 --> 00:23:28,959
of the great fights
of all time.

511
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:29,750
[announcer] One look at
Williams' face,

512
00:23:29,834 --> 00:23:30,792
and you know the end is near.

513
00:23:30,875 --> 00:23:35,834
♪♪♪

514
00:23:35,917 --> 00:23:36,417
Everybody was scared
when he knocked out

515
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,792
Cleveland Williams.

516
00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:41,208
At this point, Sonny was the
best heavyweight in the world.

517
00:23:41,291 --> 00:23:44,208
He had cleared out
the dangerous part of

518
00:23:44,291 --> 00:23:46,166
the heavyweight division,
and he'd done it in a way

519
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:49,333
that was so unilateral
that he was undeniable.

520
00:23:49,417 --> 00:23:52,166
[announcer] And a fast right
to the head puts Harris down.

521
00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:53,125
♪♪♪

522
00:23:53,208 --> 00:23:56,125
The fight is over.

523
00:23:56,208 --> 00:23:57,750
Sonny Liston sets his sights

524
00:23:57,834 --> 00:23:59,709
on the heavyweight
championship.

525
00:23:59,792 --> 00:24:04,166
Every guy who hit the canvas
was one body to step over

526
00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:06,333
on the way
to a world title fight.

527
00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:07,834
♪♪♪

528
00:24:07,917 --> 00:24:10,166
[cheers and applause]

529
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:12,041
[announcer] Sonny, let's talk
about your future now.

530
00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:14,125
Who do you wanna fight in the
ring in your next engagement?

531
00:24:14,208 --> 00:24:16,750
The man who got the title.

532
00:24:16,834 --> 00:24:19,166
He thought that the title
would turn him

533
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:20,583
into somebody different.

534
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:24,625
He saw a chance
to reinvent himself.

535
00:24:24,709 --> 00:24:25,709
He had people who wanted
to talk to him,

536
00:24:25,792 --> 00:24:28,625
newspaper reporters who wanted
to cover him,

537
00:24:28,709 --> 00:24:30,000
because they knew where
this was going.

538
00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:34,208
♪♪♪

539
00:24:34,291 --> 00:24:36,792
[Collins] The problem was

540
00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:39,917
when he got close to getting
a title fight,

541
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,667
that's when all the resistance
started.

542
00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:44,542
♪♪♪

543
00:24:44,625 --> 00:24:45,625
[Roberts] We have a guy
by the name of Kefauver,

544
00:24:45,709 --> 00:24:49,083
senator from Tennessee,
who's investigating

545
00:24:49,166 --> 00:24:51,375
corruption in America.

546
00:24:51,458 --> 00:24:52,709
This is an age where America
was looking for corruption

547
00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:56,208
all over the place,
whether it was communists

548
00:24:56,291 --> 00:24:58,834
or labor unions
or what have you.

549
00:24:58,917 --> 00:25:02,125
And Kefauver decides boxing
is corrupt.

550
00:25:02,208 --> 00:25:03,417
♪♪♪

551
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,917
[Lipsyte] Estes Kefauver saw

552
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,125
these hearings
as an opportunity

553
00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:12,583
to be on this very new thing
called television.

554
00:25:12,667 --> 00:25:14,750
You gotta remember, it's not
like television today

555
00:25:14,834 --> 00:25:16,250
where they'll put a camera
in the grave

556
00:25:16,333 --> 00:25:17,709
if they can get away with it.

557
00:25:17,792 --> 00:25:20,375
This was a whole new idea.

558
00:25:20,458 --> 00:25:23,917
Have you ever threatened
any

559
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,875
manager or boxer

560
00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:27,625
or promoter at any time?

561
00:25:27,709 --> 00:25:31,000
I respectfully decline
to answer the question

562
00:25:31,083 --> 00:25:32,208
on the ground that I cannot
be compelled to be a witness

563
00:25:32,291 --> 00:25:34,750
against myself.

564
00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,750
[Roberts] The spotlight
is on Frankie Carbo.

565
00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:38,083
It's on Blinky Palermo.

566
00:25:38,166 --> 00:25:42,250
It's on the other henchmen in
the mob involved with boxing.

567
00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:45,291
And Sonny Liston's tied
to all of them.

568
00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:47,000
♪♪♪

569
00:25:47,083 --> 00:25:48,959
So this is a problem.

570
00:25:49,041 --> 00:25:51,750
Sonny Liston, at a time when
he's becoming absolutely

571
00:25:51,834 --> 00:25:54,625
the most famous fighter
in the world,

572
00:25:54,709 --> 00:25:58,166
is becoming known as absolutely
the most criminally tied

573
00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:01,709
fighter in the world.

574
00:26:01,792 --> 00:26:03,625
[Collins] It hurt
his reputation.

575
00:26:03,709 --> 00:26:04,750
The stuff was
already there.

576
00:26:04,834 --> 00:26:10,125
But it broadcasted to a much
wider audience.

577
00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:13,500
[Assael] J. Edgar Hoover and
the FBI are also obsessed--

578
00:26:13,583 --> 00:26:16,291
I mean obsessed--with Sonny
being a linchpin

579
00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:19,000
between the mob and boxing.

580
00:26:19,083 --> 00:26:22,166
This is evidenced by all the
FBI reports where you could

581
00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:24,750
see Hoover was following
Sonny's career closely.

582
00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:29,709
♪♪♪

583
00:26:29,792 --> 00:26:32,542
[Collins] They didn't want a
guy like Sonny Liston having

584
00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:34,834
what was probably the most
prestigious prize

585
00:26:34,917 --> 00:26:35,250
in sports at the time.

586
00:26:35,333 --> 00:26:40,125
♪♪♪

587
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:43,417
[Farrell] In order to fight for
the heavyweight championship,

588
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,291
Sonny Liston would have had
to fight Floyd Patterson.

589
00:26:46,375 --> 00:26:48,333
And Patterson's
an interesting figure

590
00:26:48,417 --> 00:26:51,500
because he was a very, very
popular champion.

591
00:26:51,583 --> 00:26:53,875
♪♪♪

592
00:26:53,959 --> 00:26:55,709
[Majeski] And he has one of
the cagiest, most brilliant,

593
00:26:55,792 --> 00:26:58,542
most insane managers
in the history of the sport,

594
00:26:58,625 --> 00:27:00,625
Cus D'Amato.

595
00:27:00,709 --> 00:27:03,500
And Cus D'Amato did not want
to expose this property of his

596
00:27:03,583 --> 00:27:04,750
to Sonny Liston.

597
00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:06,709
[Farrell] And he had
a built-in excuse

598
00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,917
since he could say,
"Well, we don't want

599
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000
the heavyweight title even
potentially falling into

600
00:27:13,083 --> 00:27:13,792
the hands of the mob."

601
00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:18,375
[Collins] The time that Sonny
lived and fought in

602
00:27:18,458 --> 00:27:20,500
was a time of change
in America.

603
00:27:20,583 --> 00:27:23,792
He was caught in the crosshair
of a huge upheaval

604
00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:24,834
in this country.

605
00:27:24,917 --> 00:27:27,500
♪♪♪

606
00:27:27,583 --> 00:27:29,291
The Civil Rights
era was starting.

607
00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:30,709
A lot of changes
were being made.

608
00:27:30,792 --> 00:27:33,583
[Rigueur] We're seeing
new kinds of protest,

609
00:27:33,667 --> 00:27:37,875
uh, strategies
like the sit-in movement.

610
00:27:37,959 --> 00:27:40,250
[announcer] This is the scene
of sit-downs in the past.

611
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:44,041
However now we are told
the marchers have stopped here

612
00:27:44,125 --> 00:27:46,208
and a song will be sung.

613
00:27:46,291 --> 00:27:47,917
[Rigueur] Bus boycotts.

614
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,458
African-Americans pushing back
against societal norms

615
00:27:52,542 --> 00:27:54,542
that are telling them
that they are less than.

616
00:27:54,625 --> 00:27:57,917
I would rather die
on the highways of Alabama

617
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,583
than make a butchery
of my conscience.

618
00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:04,750
Also civil rights
organizations are picking

619
00:28:04,834 --> 00:28:08,375
and choosing people that they
see as model citizens

620
00:28:08,458 --> 00:28:10,875
to essentially prove
that African-Americans

621
00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:13,417
are deserving of citizenship.

622
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,583
And so Floyd Patterson fits
this idea.

623
00:28:15,667 --> 00:28:18,291
Now we've heard this word
"viciousness--"

624
00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:20,041
that a fighter has to have
a vicious attitude

625
00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:21,417
before he goes into the ring.

626
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:22,542
Now, how do you
feel about that?

627
00:28:22,625 --> 00:28:23,709
Well, not in all cases,
no.

628
00:28:23,792 --> 00:28:25,583
I disagree with that.

629
00:28:25,667 --> 00:28:27,500
In fact, I've only had the
vicious attitude in one fight.

630
00:28:27,583 --> 00:28:30,333
♪♪♪

631
00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:32,709
[Majeski] Floyd Patterson was
the Sidney Poitier of boxing.

632
00:28:32,792 --> 00:28:34,458
You know, very soft spoken,
guy you would want

633
00:28:34,542 --> 00:28:36,000
to go out with.

634
00:28:36,083 --> 00:28:36,959
He was involved
with civil rights.

635
00:28:37,041 --> 00:28:38,959
He was friendly
with Jackie Robinson.

636
00:28:39,041 --> 00:28:40,500
He was friendly
with Nelson Rockefeller.

637
00:28:40,583 --> 00:28:42,750
He was meeting senators.

638
00:28:42,834 --> 00:28:44,792
[Jeffries] He's not
a uppity negro.

639
00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:46,500
He's just there to get along,
uh, and he won't upset

640
00:28:46,583 --> 00:28:49,417
the apple cart,
if you will.

641
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,792
That's why the NAACP
and others feel comfortable

642
00:28:52,875 --> 00:28:57,208
with him as being sort of
the face of this effort

643
00:28:57,291 --> 00:29:00,458
to really desegregate--
integrate America.

644
00:29:00,542 --> 00:29:01,834
♪♪♪

645
00:29:01,917 --> 00:29:06,166
Sonny Liston's America's
worst nightmare.

646
00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:07,959
He is literally
a dangerous negro.

647
00:29:08,041 --> 00:29:12,125
And he's a dangerous negro
who's unafraid of white people,

648
00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:15,000
as demonstrated by his
consistent and constant

649
00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:16,291
encounters with the police.

650
00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:20,000
[Tyson] He had a bad rap for
always being mob connected.

651
00:29:20,083 --> 00:29:23,208
He was like a black eye
to the black community.

652
00:29:23,291 --> 00:29:26,125
So nobody wanted to be
associated with him.

653
00:29:26,208 --> 00:29:27,625
No respectable person.

654
00:29:27,709 --> 00:29:29,875
♪♪♪

655
00:29:29,959 --> 00:29:32,125
[Rigueur] He's imposing,
he's violent,

656
00:29:32,208 --> 00:29:34,667
he's abrupt,
he has no connection

657
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,291
to the civil rights movement.

658
00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:38,208
And he's unapologetic about it.

659
00:29:38,291 --> 00:29:39,750
[announcer] Sonny,
what do you think

660
00:29:39,834 --> 00:29:40,834
about the American
Revolution in 1963?

661
00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:43,709
Well, I think it's
a simple matter,

662
00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:47,250
but, um, a lot of peoples
is carrying this thing

663
00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:49,625
a little too far
for what it is.

664
00:29:49,709 --> 00:29:51,250
[Farrell] As he always said
about the riots,

665
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:52,333
"I don't have
a dog-proof ass."

666
00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:55,500
He's not gonna get torn apart
for somebody else.

667
00:29:55,583 --> 00:30:00,750
♪♪♪

668
00:30:02,208 --> 00:30:05,500
The reason why we don't
really associate Sonny Liston

669
00:30:05,583 --> 00:30:08,417
with the civil rights movement,
uh, is because the civil rights

670
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,875
movement didn't associate
itself with Sonny Liston.

671
00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:14,250
Image was very important,
and that's exactly what

672
00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:15,875
Sonny Liston didn't have.

673
00:30:17,125 --> 00:30:20,959
[Farrell] I know for a fact
that JFK told Patterson

674
00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:23,542
he needed not
to fight Sonny Liston.

675
00:30:23,625 --> 00:30:26,083
Which, if you think about it,
is an enormous statement

676
00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:28,208
coming from the President
of the United States

677
00:30:28,291 --> 00:30:30,041
in regard to a prize fight.

678
00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:35,041
♪♪♪

679
00:30:37,083 --> 00:30:38,875
[Reddish Jr.] He had earned
his title.

680
00:30:38,959 --> 00:30:42,333
He had earned
the championship fight.

681
00:30:42,417 --> 00:30:44,250
Of course he had been
incarcerated as a youngster.

682
00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,750
Absolutely.

683
00:30:48,291 --> 00:30:51,542
They should have been
encouraging him and giving him

684
00:30:51,625 --> 00:30:54,417
a second chance,

685
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,750
so why deny him?

686
00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:59,583
I thought it was a disgrace.

687
00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:04,792
♪♪♪

688
00:31:05,834 --> 00:31:10,083
Sonny, I understand that you
have a statement to make

689
00:31:10,166 --> 00:31:12,000
as far as fighters
are concerned.

690
00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:16,417
Well, I've fought
all the top contenders,

691
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,125
and I've fought my way up
to the number one spot,

692
00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:22,291
so what do a man have
to do to get a earnest shot

693
00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:23,542
at the title?

694
00:31:23,625 --> 00:31:25,792
[Farrell] The real reason that
Cus D'Amato didn't want

695
00:31:25,875 --> 00:31:27,000
Floyd Patterson to fight
Sonny Liston is he was

696
00:31:27,083 --> 00:31:30,500
absolutely sure--as sure as
everyone else--

697
00:31:30,583 --> 00:31:31,583
that Patterson had
no chance to win.

698
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:33,875
Floyd didn't stand a chance.

699
00:31:33,959 --> 00:31:35,625
He was, you know--
He was too light.

700
00:31:35,709 --> 00:31:39,333
He was too weak.
He was scared.

701
00:31:39,417 --> 00:31:41,458
And there's no way you're gonna
beat Sonny if you're scared.

702
00:31:41,542 --> 00:31:46,959
♪♪♪

703
00:31:47,041 --> 00:31:49,625
[Roberts] Cus D'Amato's goal
with Floyd Patterson

704
00:31:49,709 --> 00:31:52,792
is never to match him up
against anybody

705
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:56,709
that's of any competence
whatsoever.

706
00:31:56,792 --> 00:31:59,500
The downfall
of Floyd Patterson came

707
00:31:59,583 --> 00:32:02,417
with a great televised
double-header

708
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,250
where Patterson defended
his title against the great

709
00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:07,125
fighter Tom McNeeley.

710
00:32:07,208 --> 00:32:09,041
♪♪♪

711
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:11,375
Tom McNeeley was nothing.

712
00:32:11,458 --> 00:32:14,834
The fight was a sham.

713
00:32:14,917 --> 00:32:17,208
On the same card,
Sonny Liston fights

714
00:32:17,291 --> 00:32:18,500
Bert Westphal.

715
00:32:18,583 --> 00:32:21,500
Bert Westphal was
a good fighter.

716
00:32:21,583 --> 00:32:24,333
[announcer] Westphal
has 12 K.O.s.

717
00:32:24,417 --> 00:32:25,959
[Collins] Westphal tries to
stand up to Sonny Liston.

718
00:32:26,041 --> 00:32:28,625
Now he's mixing it
in exchanges,

719
00:32:28,709 --> 00:32:31,000
then finally Sonny
finds the range.

720
00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:33,000
[announcer] Westphal has never
been knocked off his feet

721
00:32:33,083 --> 00:32:34,834
until now.

722
00:32:34,917 --> 00:32:37,875
[Roberts] Liston destroys him.

723
00:32:37,959 --> 00:32:39,917
Liston is the champion.

724
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,291
Patterson's the great
pretender.

725
00:32:41,375 --> 00:32:44,750
[announcer] Albert Westphal
knocked out by Sonny Liston,

726
00:32:44,834 --> 00:32:47,291
who by virtue of this
one-round K.O. tonight

727
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:50,959
has taken a long step toward
a fight with Floyd Patterson.

728
00:32:51,041 --> 00:32:54,125
Eventually, under
mounting pressure,

729
00:32:54,208 --> 00:32:56,917
Floyd felt that in order
to have any integrity--

730
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,917
personal integrity--he had
to fight Sonny Liston.

731
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,458
So he overrode
D'Amato's concerns.

732
00:33:04,458 --> 00:33:07,208
[Farrell] When Patterson
finally agrees to fight Sonny,

733
00:33:07,291 --> 00:33:09,458
it's seen as some supreme
act of charity

734
00:33:09,542 --> 00:33:10,667
instead of what it really was,
which was, you know,

735
00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:13,041
an obligation.

736
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:15,417
I personally think that he
has every right

737
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,792
to fight for the championship
despite his--

738
00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:20,583
despite his unfortunate
background.

739
00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:24,917
♪♪♪

740
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:29,750
How excited was I when Sonny
signed for the heavyweight

741
00:33:29,834 --> 00:33:32,291
championship of the world?

742
00:33:32,375 --> 00:33:34,917
Very excite--I just knew we
were going to become

743
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,250
the heavyweight champion.
I knew it.

744
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:39,625
That was his ambition in life.

745
00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:42,333
[Farrell] Sonny wanted
this title

746
00:33:42,417 --> 00:33:44,333
because he thought it
would complete him.

747
00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:47,875
Even with all that
had happened--

748
00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:50,834
the congressional hearings,
the dozens and dozens

749
00:33:50,917 --> 00:33:53,583
of rousting by cops,
the--the press--

750
00:33:53,667 --> 00:33:55,583
it's one of the happiest times
in his life.

751
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:56,458
He had the fight
of his dreams.

752
00:33:56,542 --> 00:34:00,208
[laughter]

753
00:34:00,291 --> 00:34:03,875
[Izenberg] They make the fight.
It's gonna be in Chicago.

754
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,875
So I've immediately decided I'm
gonna go to Floyd's camp first.

755
00:34:06,959 --> 00:34:07,959
He's the champion.

756
00:34:08,041 --> 00:34:08,458
Let's see what he has to say.

757
00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:09,875
♪♪♪

758
00:34:09,959 --> 00:34:12,291
It was the county poor farm.

759
00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:14,542
Rolling green hills.

760
00:34:14,625 --> 00:34:17,583
Blossoms,
birdies tweeting.

761
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:18,959
And little bunny rabbits
hopping across the road.

762
00:34:19,041 --> 00:34:24,834
And I said,
"This is Floyd Patterson's

763
00:34:24,917 --> 00:34:27,417
emotional home."

764
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,917
He's got two chances--
slim and none.

765
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,625
♪♪♪

766
00:34:34,709 --> 00:34:38,166
Now I go to see Sonny Liston.

767
00:34:38,875 --> 00:34:41,834
We walk down
this concrete corridor

768
00:34:41,917 --> 00:34:45,000
which is ten degrees colder
than outside.

769
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,875
Sonny's taking these medicine
balls to the stomach.

770
00:34:49,959 --> 00:34:51,208
Boom, boom, boom.

771
00:34:51,291 --> 00:34:53,500
And I'm looking
at Sonny's face.

772
00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:56,792
He all but yawned as the ball
hit his stomach.

773
00:34:56,875 --> 00:34:58,458
And I'm saying, "I thought
there was two chances

774
00:34:58,542 --> 00:35:02,333
for Floyd--slim and none.
Slim just went out the door."

775
00:35:03,417 --> 00:35:06,959
You feel that Liston is a
capable opponent, I'm sure.

776
00:35:07,041 --> 00:35:11,625
Sure, I feel that, uh, he's
a bit above and beyond capable.

777
00:35:11,709 --> 00:35:14,709
♪♪♪

778
00:35:14,792 --> 00:35:16,458
[Lipsyte] Before the fight,
Sonny Liston goes into

779
00:35:16,542 --> 00:35:17,667
a Spartan condition.

780
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:20,375
He really kind of picked up
the rhythm of his training.

781
00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:24,000
They were longer,
they were harder sessions.

782
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:28,083
He really looked leaner
and harder and faster.

783
00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,792
He gets himself into
the best condition

784
00:35:31,875 --> 00:35:34,083
he will ever be
for the rest of his life.

785
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:35,875
♪♪♪

786
00:35:35,959 --> 00:35:37,667
He's prime to fight and try
to take the title.

787
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:41,375
♪♪♪

788
00:35:41,458 --> 00:35:43,542
[Roberts] Floyd Patterson,
Sonny Liston fight--

789
00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:45,583
there's been very few other
fights like it.

790
00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:48,041
Very few in boxing history.

791
00:35:48,125 --> 00:35:52,375
I mean, in boxing, you always
want a good guy and a bad guy.

792
00:35:52,458 --> 00:35:54,500
You want a black hat
and a white hat,

793
00:35:54,583 --> 00:35:56,375
and you want
the white hat to win.

794
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,375
Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling,

795
00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:02,500
representative of democracy
versus Nazi fascism.

796
00:36:02,583 --> 00:36:06,333
Well, the Patterson-Liston
fight was the same thing.

797
00:36:06,417 --> 00:36:09,250
I mean, it's good versus evil.

798
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:11,959
Fight, no.
It was a morality play.

799
00:36:12,041 --> 00:36:14,917
♪♪♪

800
00:36:20,208 --> 00:36:22,250
When Liston goes
into the ring,

801
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:26,875
figuratively wearing his
black hat, he's booed.

802
00:36:26,959 --> 00:36:29,000
It's almost as if you're
in a movie.

803
00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:32,625
[crowd booing]

804
00:36:32,709 --> 00:36:33,959
[Izenberg] I remember when
they came in the ring.

805
00:36:34,041 --> 00:36:37,083
Liston was simply staring

806
00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:41,875
across the ring at Patterson.

807
00:36:41,959 --> 00:36:43,417
And Patterson was trying
not to look,

808
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,583
but every once in a while,
he looked.

809
00:36:45,667 --> 00:36:48,458
And Cus D'Amato's saying,
"I have faith in you.

810
00:36:48,542 --> 00:36:50,417
You can do it."

811
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,458
It's a miracle he wasn't
struck by lightning,

812
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,625
because he didn't have
any faith in him.

813
00:36:53,709 --> 00:36:54,750
♪ dramatic music ♪

814
00:36:54,834 --> 00:36:56,959
[Farrell] Sonny Liston didn't
come out looking

815
00:36:57,041 --> 00:36:59,333
to knock
Floyd's head off.

816
00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:01,083
That's just not
the way he fought.

817
00:37:01,166 --> 00:37:04,417
Liston was really a very,
very complete fighter.

818
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,458
He took opportunities as they
presented themselves,

819
00:37:07,542 --> 00:37:10,291
and if you see the fight,
you see that actually

820
00:37:10,375 --> 00:37:14,166
Patterson appears to be
the more aggressive initially.

821
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:18,417
♪♪♪

822
00:37:20,375 --> 00:37:23,333
Once he was on the inside,
you know,

823
00:37:23,417 --> 00:37:25,542
Liston just took him apart.

824
00:37:25,625 --> 00:37:28,083
And Liston just moves in,
catches him with a left,

825
00:37:28,166 --> 00:37:29,625
catch him with another left.

826
00:37:29,709 --> 00:37:33,291
♪♪♪

827
00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:34,667
[announcer] Solid left
to the cheekbone

828
00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:37,000
dropped the champion.

829
00:37:37,083 --> 00:37:38,875
[Tyson] Floyd just went down.

830
00:37:38,959 --> 00:37:41,000
He just couldn't take
the punishment and go down.

831
00:37:41,083 --> 00:37:42,000
It was too much power for him.

832
00:37:42,083 --> 00:37:45,834
Fight?
There was no fight.

833
00:37:45,917 --> 00:37:47,583
It--It was a slaughter.

834
00:37:47,667 --> 00:37:51,125
And Sonny Liston wins
the heavyweight championship

835
00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:51,542
of the world.

836
00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:00,667
[Majeski] When he became
heavyweight champ,

837
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:02,917
I think the perception was he's
gonna be the title holder

838
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,333
for the next 20 years.

839
00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:06,709
Nobody's gonna beat this man.

840
00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:16,792
[Roberts] The stadium was
eerily quiet, almost funereal.

841
00:38:18,166 --> 00:38:21,875
In a way, it was a funeral.
A funeral for Patterson.

842
00:38:21,959 --> 00:38:26,041
A funeral for our visions
of what the boxing heavyweight

843
00:38:26,125 --> 00:38:27,625
champion should represent
and should be.

844
00:38:28,792 --> 00:38:32,834
It was not a great beginning
for the championship career

845
00:38:32,917 --> 00:38:34,834
of Sonny Liston.

846
00:38:34,917 --> 00:38:35,542
[announcer] And the new
champion

847
00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:36,917
is inarticulate in victory.

848
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,709
♪ dramatic music ♪

849
00:38:40,792 --> 00:38:42,542
♪♪♪

850
00:38:42,625 --> 00:38:46,709
[Izenberg] Sonny came into this
fight with a second goal.

851
00:38:46,792 --> 00:38:48,667
He wanted respect.

852
00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:52,208
Take a look at his life.
When was he respected?

853
00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:54,959
When his father was hitching
him up to a plow?

854
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,792
When the mob was using him?

855
00:38:58,083 --> 00:39:01,500
So after the fight, he was
absolutely euphoric

856
00:39:01,583 --> 00:39:05,458
because he knew Philadelphia
would welcome him

857
00:39:05,542 --> 00:39:08,792
with open arms
and his life would change.

858
00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:10,417
♪♪♪

859
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:11,792
[Long] It was mainly
for his image.

860
00:39:11,875 --> 00:39:15,625
You get to be the heavyweight
champ and you're not looked at

861
00:39:15,709 --> 00:39:17,250
as a criminal anymore.

862
00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:21,458
♪♪♪

863
00:39:26,834 --> 00:39:29,083
[Collins] Jack McKinney was
a boxing writer

864
00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:30,959
for the  Philadelphia
Daily News,

865
00:39:31,041 --> 00:39:32,959
and he was the only writer
in Philadelphia

866
00:39:33,041 --> 00:39:35,417
that Sonny trusted.

867
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,834
He called City Hall
in Philadelphia

868
00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:41,000
to get some sort of greeting
for Sonny.

869
00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:43,667
♪♪♪

870
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:47,458
He had all these plans
that he told Jack about

871
00:39:47,542 --> 00:39:49,667
that, you know, he was gonna
turn his life around.

872
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:53,208
He thought he could be a role
model for young men

873
00:39:53,291 --> 00:39:54,959
and children.
Sonny loved children.

874
00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:58,250
♪♪♪

875
00:39:58,333 --> 00:40:00,041
[Izenberg] The plane lands,
he straightens his tie,

876
00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:02,792
and he's ready.

877
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:04,291
♪♪♪

878
00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:06,959
[Collins] Walked into
the airport.

879
00:40:07,041 --> 00:40:09,959
♪♪♪

880
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:11,875
There was nobody there
to meet him.

881
00:40:11,959 --> 00:40:15,709
♪♪♪

882
00:40:15,792 --> 00:40:17,500
And he didn't say anything.

883
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,375
But Jack looks over at him
and he said

884
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:21,000
there was like a little lump
in his throat.

885
00:40:21,083 --> 00:40:26,250
♪♪♪

886
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,542
It finally sunk in that it
didn't matter what he did.

887
00:40:33,625 --> 00:40:35,333
He would never shake his past

888
00:40:35,417 --> 00:40:38,000
and he would never
be fully accepted.

889
00:40:38,083 --> 00:40:42,834
And I think that moment
where his life could have gone

890
00:40:42,917 --> 00:40:46,125
in one direction,
it went in the other.

891
00:40:46,208 --> 00:40:51,125
♪♪♪

892
00:40:51,208 --> 00:40:53,417
[Reddish Jr.] I received a
phone call from Sonny Liston

893
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:58,041
that night and he told me,
"Come on over."

894
00:40:58,125 --> 00:40:59,875
♪♪♪

895
00:40:59,959 --> 00:41:02,000
We just stayed up all night
and talked.

896
00:41:02,083 --> 00:41:05,583
♪♪♪

897
00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:08,875
All he wanted to do
was to be accepted

898
00:41:08,959 --> 00:41:12,166
as a normal human being.

899
00:41:12,250 --> 00:41:17,417
♪♪♪

900
00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:20,709
He was heartbroken.

901
00:41:20,792 --> 00:41:23,750
♪♪♪

902
00:41:23,834 --> 00:41:26,375
Well, that's life.

903
00:41:26,458 --> 00:41:30,625
♪♪♪

904
00:41:35,959 --> 00:41:39,208
[Roberts] The tragedy
of Sonny Liston's reign

905
00:41:39,291 --> 00:41:42,458
as heavyweight champion of
the world is nothing changed.

906
00:41:42,542 --> 00:41:45,375
The FBI impounded the money
to the fight.

907
00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:48,792
The police arrest him for going
too slow through a park.

908
00:41:51,083 --> 00:41:53,750
Sonny Liston is still
the despised,

909
00:41:53,834 --> 00:41:55,375
the hated,
the hassled.

910
00:41:55,458 --> 00:41:57,709
He's not accepted.

911
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:01,417
[Assael] You know, this was not
the press's finest era.

912
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,083
♪♪♪

913
00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:05,875
Every invective,
every insult you could imagine

914
00:42:05,959 --> 00:42:10,458
being thrown at a black man
in America was thrown at Sonny.

915
00:42:10,542 --> 00:42:14,709
♪♪♪

916
00:42:19,166 --> 00:42:22,417
[Long] I was hurt,
really hurt.

917
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,542
You know, he'd come through
all of the other stuff

918
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:28,000
he'd been through and then to
get this far and then have to--

919
00:42:28,083 --> 00:42:29,417
it took him back, I thought.

920
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:30,667
♪♪♪

921
00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:33,417
And that didn't feel good
at all to me.

922
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:34,792
Mm-mm.

923
00:42:34,875 --> 00:42:36,875
♪♪♪

924
00:42:36,959 --> 00:42:41,625
[Collins] He wasn't a bad guy,
deep down inside.

925
00:42:41,709 --> 00:42:43,458
He'd done bad things.

926
00:42:43,542 --> 00:42:45,792
But he wanted, actually,
to be a good person.

927
00:42:45,875 --> 00:42:50,041
And after that, I don't think
he really gave a damn.

928
00:42:50,125 --> 00:42:53,166
The public is not
with me now,

929
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:56,625
but they'll have to swing along
until somebody else come along

930
00:42:56,709 --> 00:42:57,542
to beat me.

931
00:42:57,625 --> 00:43:01,792
He accepted it.
He tried to escape it.

932
00:43:01,875 --> 00:43:03,375
He went to Vegas.

933
00:43:03,458 --> 00:43:05,291
And we know what happened
in Vegas.

934
00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:06,625
♪♪♪

935
00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:09,959
Vegas, why hasn't he thought
of this before?

936
00:43:10,041 --> 00:43:11,500
It was a perfect town for him.

937
00:43:11,583 --> 00:43:12,667
♪ exciting music ♪

938
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:15,583
Far from being dogged by
rumors about the mob.

939
00:43:15,667 --> 00:43:17,500
The mob ran Vegas.

940
00:43:17,583 --> 00:43:20,166
It was an institutional supply
of showgirls for him.

941
00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:22,166
His friend Joe Louis
was there.

942
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:23,917
You know,
he loved the casinos.

943
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,583
Sonny loved Vegas,
and Vegas loved Sonny.

944
00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,667
It was a marriage made
in Heaven.

945
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:29,291
♪♪♪

946
00:43:29,375 --> 00:43:30,959
When Sonny comes off
the airplane,

947
00:43:31,041 --> 00:43:33,000
he's met by a jowly figure
in a shiny suit

948
00:43:33,083 --> 00:43:35,250
driving a Thunderbird named
Ash Resnik,

949
00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:37,125
who'll become a very central
figure in his life.

950
00:43:37,208 --> 00:43:38,959
♪♪♪

951
00:43:39,041 --> 00:43:43,792
My father came to Las Vegas
on the advice of a mobster

952
00:43:43,875 --> 00:43:46,041
named Charlie
"The Blade" Tourine,

953
00:43:46,125 --> 00:43:48,667
who probably was instrumental
in setting him up

954
00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:50,917
at the Thunderbird,
which was my father's first

955
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,667
casino job in Las Vegas.

956
00:43:52,750 --> 00:43:54,750
♪♪♪

957
00:43:54,834 --> 00:43:58,709
Every casino had some mob
influence back in the '60s.

958
00:43:58,792 --> 00:44:01,375
So you have to remember the
people who came to Las Vegas

959
00:44:01,458 --> 00:44:04,375
to join the legal gambling
industry had generally

960
00:44:04,458 --> 00:44:06,875
come from illegal
gambling elsewhere.

961
00:44:06,959 --> 00:44:08,709
♪♪♪

962
00:44:08,792 --> 00:44:10,917
[Assael] Ash fills
an important role.

963
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,208
The reason is that in Philly,
Carbo and Palermo

964
00:44:14,291 --> 00:44:15,375
both go to jail.

965
00:44:15,458 --> 00:44:17,917
♪♪♪

966
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,500
Ash is here in Vegas.

967
00:44:18,583 --> 00:44:20,709
He knows everybody.

968
00:44:20,792 --> 00:44:22,458
The important fights
are moving here.

969
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,125
[Izenberg] Sonny took an
immediate liking to him,

970
00:44:26,208 --> 00:44:28,750
and he took an immediate
liking to Sonny.

971
00:44:28,834 --> 00:44:30,291
And that relationship would
blossom into something

972
00:44:30,375 --> 00:44:31,959
very different.

973
00:44:32,041 --> 00:44:35,709
But at this point,
that could have been the most

974
00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:40,500
significant thing that happened
to Sonny while he was in Vegas

975
00:44:40,583 --> 00:44:41,625
on that trip.

976
00:44:41,709 --> 00:44:44,709
♪ dramatic music ♪

977
00:44:44,792 --> 00:44:48,917
♪♪♪

978
00:44:55,166 --> 00:44:57,834
[Farrell] The Floyd Patterson,
Sonny Liston rematch

979
00:44:57,917 --> 00:45:01,875
was held at the Las Vegas
convention center.

980
00:45:01,959 --> 00:45:05,083
Liston, who was disliked before
the first fight, if anything,

981
00:45:05,166 --> 00:45:07,125
was more disliked now.

982
00:45:07,208 --> 00:45:10,417
Since he'd entrenched himself,
he was now the champion.

983
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,458
And I think Patterson--
who was deeply beloved

984
00:45:13,542 --> 00:45:17,000
before the fight--if anything
was now held as a, you know,

985
00:45:17,083 --> 00:45:17,917
sort of last beacon
of hope.

986
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:24,583
[announcer] Floyd is down
for the third time.

987
00:45:24,667 --> 00:45:26,834
Lightning has struck again
in the same round

988
00:45:26,917 --> 00:45:28,500
as the first fight.

989
00:45:28,583 --> 00:45:29,792
The only difference
in the fight, really,

990
00:45:29,875 --> 00:45:31,792
was it lasted
four seconds longer.

991
00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:34,083
Two minutes and ten seconds
and, boop, that's it.

992
00:45:34,166 --> 00:45:36,667
[announcer] Sonny Liston again
knocks out Floyd Patterson

993
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:40,041
in one round
to successfully defend

994
00:45:40,125 --> 00:45:42,458
his world heavyweight
title.

995
00:45:42,542 --> 00:45:45,959
The one thing significant
about Patterson-Liston II

996
00:45:46,041 --> 00:45:51,041
is we got a glimpse of the
future of professional sports.

997
00:45:51,875 --> 00:45:54,375
At the end of the fight,
a guy by the name

998
00:45:54,458 --> 00:45:59,333
of Cassius Clay jumps in the
ring and puts on a performance.

999
00:45:59,417 --> 00:46:03,041
♪♪♪

1000
00:46:03,125 --> 00:46:05,417
At the time, the public
thought Cassius Clay

1001
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,166
was crazy because
he jumped in the ring

1002
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:10,542
threatening Sonny Liston
after the Patterson fight.

1003
00:46:10,625 --> 00:46:13,333
You've gotta remember nobody
challenged Sonny Liston.

1004
00:46:13,417 --> 00:46:16,917
Now, here's this up and coming
young fighter jumping in,

1005
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,333
tell him, "I want you.
I want you.

1006
00:46:18,417 --> 00:46:19,875
You ugly."

1007
00:46:19,959 --> 00:46:22,500
You know, he didn't know
what to think.

1008
00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:23,917
♪♪♪

1009
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,458
[Izenberg] This is really
a low-class burlesque.

1010
00:46:28,542 --> 00:46:30,500
However, um, nobody went broke

1011
00:46:30,583 --> 00:46:33,792
underestimating the mentality

1012
00:46:33,875 --> 00:46:36,166
of the American boxing fan.

1013
00:46:36,250 --> 00:46:38,000
So they ate it up.

1014
00:46:38,083 --> 00:46:39,709
The media fell
in love with him.

1015
00:46:39,792 --> 00:46:44,542
He was an easy story,
this, you know,

1016
00:46:44,625 --> 00:46:47,000
a narcissistic loudmouth.

1017
00:46:47,083 --> 00:46:48,333
It's like covering Trump.

1018
00:46:48,417 --> 00:46:49,208
Well, let me finish.
Let me talk.

1019
00:46:49,291 --> 00:46:50,875
This boy's modest.
I'm the greatest.

1020
00:46:50,959 --> 00:46:52,375
He's not a talker.

1021
00:46:52,458 --> 00:46:53,750
I'm gonna fight Sonny Liston
right after

1022
00:46:53,834 --> 00:46:55,333
I annihilate Henry Cooper.

1023
00:46:55,417 --> 00:46:56,709
And as soon as I annihilate
Henry Cooper,

1024
00:46:56,792 --> 00:46:59,041
I want that big ugly bear
right in, uh,

1025
00:46:59,125 --> 00:47:00,125
right here on Miami Beach.

1026
00:47:00,208 --> 00:47:02,834
[Collins] Cassius Clay
bugged Sonny Liston

1027
00:47:02,917 --> 00:47:04,583
even before the fight
was signed.

1028
00:47:04,667 --> 00:47:07,917
It was part of his
psychological warfare.

1029
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,834
He had a bus that he took
to Sonny's house

1030
00:47:12,917 --> 00:47:14,041
in the middle of the night
screaming and yelling.

1031
00:47:14,125 --> 00:47:16,500
[Roberts] "You gotta fight me!
You gotta fight me!

1032
00:47:16,583 --> 00:47:18,166
I'm the champion!"

1033
00:47:18,250 --> 00:47:20,250
Lights are going off around
the neighborhood.

1034
00:47:20,333 --> 00:47:21,500
It pulls the police out there.

1035
00:47:21,583 --> 00:47:24,792
Last thing Sonny Liston wants
at his house are the police.

1036
00:47:25,792 --> 00:47:30,041
He did anything he could
think of to rattle Sonny.

1037
00:47:30,125 --> 00:47:32,083
And let's face it,
he was pretty creative.

1038
00:47:32,166 --> 00:47:33,917
♪♪♪

1039
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,959
He hunts Sonny Liston
down in Vegas.

1040
00:47:36,041 --> 00:47:37,250
Sonny Liston is shooting
craps.

1041
00:47:37,333 --> 00:47:41,291
Cassius Clay shows up and says,
"You can't even shoot craps!

1042
00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:43,583
You're a loser!"

1043
00:47:43,667 --> 00:47:45,583
It just pissed
Sonny Liston off.

1044
00:47:45,667 --> 00:47:47,583
You don't mess
with Sonny Liston

1045
00:47:47,667 --> 00:47:48,750
when he's about
to throw the dice.

1046
00:47:48,834 --> 00:47:51,333
So he got slapped
for his trouble.

1047
00:47:51,417 --> 00:47:54,166
♪♪♪

1048
00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:55,917
All of a sudden he said,
"Yeah, we're gonna fight.

1049
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,792
I'm gonna kill you."

1050
00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,959
Sonny Liston took the fight
because he thought he could

1051
00:48:00,041 --> 00:48:01,000
destroy Cassius Clay.

1052
00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:04,166
Don't you have any respect
for him at all

1053
00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:05,166
as a fighter?

1054
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:07,083
As a fighter?

1055
00:48:07,166 --> 00:48:10,250
I think he should be locked up
for impersonating a fighter.

1056
00:48:11,917 --> 00:48:12,709
[Roberts] The promotion
of the fight

1057
00:48:12,792 --> 00:48:17,208
began as a classic
promotion.

1058
00:48:17,291 --> 00:48:18,959
Sonny Liston was very
comfortable wearing

1059
00:48:19,041 --> 00:48:20,959
the black hat by this time.

1060
00:48:21,041 --> 00:48:23,542
He knew that was the only one
he was going to wear.

1061
00:48:23,625 --> 00:48:27,000
But then suddenly rumors
appear that Cassius Clay

1062
00:48:27,083 --> 00:48:30,959
has secretly joined
the Nation of Islam.

1063
00:48:31,041 --> 00:48:33,125
The Nation of Islam
at this time is viewed

1064
00:48:33,208 --> 00:48:36,750
as an anti-white
hate organization.

1065
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:40,041
[Assael] I'd be like Rocky
Marciano saying, "I'm a member

1066
00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:41,333
of the Ku Klux Klan."

1067
00:48:41,417 --> 00:48:42,834
It shocks white America.

1068
00:48:42,917 --> 00:48:45,417
It shocks a lot
of black America.

1069
00:48:46,417 --> 00:48:47,542
[Jeffries] The only thing
scarier to white America

1070
00:48:47,625 --> 00:48:50,792
than the black brute

1071
00:48:50,875 --> 00:48:54,959
is the black brute who is
articulate and smart.

1072
00:48:55,792 --> 00:48:57,875
And that's what,
to white America,

1073
00:48:57,959 --> 00:48:59,709
the Nation of Islam was.

1074
00:48:59,792 --> 00:49:02,291
We know that we're going
to lose a few,

1075
00:49:02,375 --> 00:49:04,959
but we know that God going
to kill all of you.

1076
00:49:05,041 --> 00:49:06,000
[cheering]

1077
00:49:06,083 --> 00:49:08,000
[Jeffries] The head of the
Nation of Islam

1078
00:49:08,083 --> 00:49:10,291
was Elijah Muhammad.

1079
00:49:10,375 --> 00:49:15,000
But it's Malcolm X--
his principal recruit--

1080
00:49:15,083 --> 00:49:16,500
uh, who has the charisma.

1081
00:49:16,583 --> 00:49:19,792
♪♪♪

1082
00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:23,166
[Rigueur] He provides
a very stark contrast

1083
00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:26,208
with the respectability model

1084
00:49:26,291 --> 00:49:29,709
of middle class civil rights
organizations.

1085
00:49:29,792 --> 00:49:32,083
Malcolm X is saying,

1086
00:49:32,166 --> 00:49:34,625
"Violence is as American
as apple pie."

1087
00:49:34,709 --> 00:49:37,709
That's our motto.

1088
00:49:37,792 --> 00:49:40,458
We want freedom
by any means necessary.

1089
00:49:40,542 --> 00:49:44,041
[Rigueur] He is speaking a
language of the dispossessed.

1090
00:49:44,125 --> 00:49:47,542
He is speaking a language
of people

1091
00:49:47,625 --> 00:49:50,166
that have felt powerless.

1092
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:51,792
This is kind of going into
this narrative

1093
00:49:51,875 --> 00:49:54,583
that Clay has grown up with.

1094
00:49:54,667 --> 00:49:57,959
♪♪♪

1095
00:49:58,041 --> 00:50:00,166
When Malcolm X starts
showing up and seeming

1096
00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:02,041
buddy-buddy with Cassius Clay,

1097
00:50:02,125 --> 00:50:05,000
it scares the hell
out of promoters.

1098
00:50:05,083 --> 00:50:07,250
[Kilroy] They wanted to
keep--to keep him quiet.

1099
00:50:07,333 --> 00:50:09,583
They didn't want him
to say he belonged

1100
00:50:09,667 --> 00:50:12,166
to the Nation of Islam
because they were afraid no one

1101
00:50:12,250 --> 00:50:13,709
would come to their fight,

1102
00:50:13,792 --> 00:50:15,041
or no one would go
to Closed Circuit.

1103
00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:16,125
♪♪♪

1104
00:50:16,208 --> 00:50:19,375
[Jeffries] This gives Liston
the chance

1105
00:50:19,458 --> 00:50:23,583
to be the hero that he had
never been before.

1106
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,417
If he wins, he will be thanked
by white America

1107
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,083
for shutting that dude up.

1108
00:50:30,166 --> 00:50:34,291
♪♪♪

1109
00:50:37,709 --> 00:50:39,583
[Roberts] The Liston-Clay fight
in Miami

1110
00:50:39,667 --> 00:50:43,333
in February of 1964

1111
00:50:43,417 --> 00:50:47,000
was a pivotal moment, really,
in American history.

1112
00:50:47,083 --> 00:50:48,875
America was--was changing.

1113
00:50:48,959 --> 00:50:52,542
Changing in fundamental ways.

1114
00:50:52,625 --> 00:50:54,792
In November, the President
of the United States--

1115
00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:57,125
John F. Kennedy--had been
assassinated.

1116
00:50:57,208 --> 00:50:58,250
♪♪♪

1117
00:50:58,333 --> 00:51:02,125
The country had gone into
a period of mourning.

1118
00:51:02,208 --> 00:51:04,542
♪♪♪

1119
00:51:04,625 --> 00:51:07,625
Then in February,
there was a glacial shift

1120
00:51:07,709 --> 00:51:11,333
in American culture.

1121
00:51:11,417 --> 00:51:15,750
In music, the Beatles arrive
from Great Britain.

1122
00:51:15,834 --> 00:51:18,250
Everybody recognized
something's changing.

1123
00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:20,500
There's a new wave
coming in.

1124
00:51:21,542 --> 00:51:23,208
Then you have this
young brash--

1125
00:51:23,291 --> 00:51:27,000
a fighter like no other,
Cassius Clay.

1126
00:51:27,083 --> 00:51:31,583
So the Liston-Clay fight
has to be viewed

1127
00:51:31,667 --> 00:51:32,959
in this continuum.

1128
00:51:33,041 --> 00:51:36,500
♪♪♪

1129
00:51:36,583 --> 00:51:40,709
Malcolm X goes into Clay's
locker room and says to Clay,

1130
00:51:40,792 --> 00:51:42,333
"This is the cross
and the crescent--

1131
00:51:42,417 --> 00:51:43,667
Christianity versus
the Nation of Islam."

1132
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:46,542
♪♪♪

1133
00:51:46,625 --> 00:51:49,667
So he's sure that this fight's
going to be important.

1134
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:51,000
And sure enough, he's right.

1135
00:51:51,083 --> 00:51:53,834
♪♪♪

1136
00:51:53,917 --> 00:51:55,750
[Kilroy] Everybody was
talking about it.

1137
00:51:55,834 --> 00:51:58,333
It was one of the biggest
sporting events in history,

1138
00:51:58,417 --> 00:52:00,792
not only in the United States,
all over the world.

1139
00:52:00,875 --> 00:52:02,709
♪♪♪

1140
00:52:02,792 --> 00:52:05,125
Most of the people--
75 percent of them--

1141
00:52:05,208 --> 00:52:07,959
thought Sonny Liston would
destroy Cassius Clay.

1142
00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:09,542
He may end up
in the morgue.

1143
00:52:09,625 --> 00:52:15,542
♪♪♪

1144
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:20,000
Liston is prepared
for a quick knockout.

1145
00:52:20,083 --> 00:52:22,583
Liston comes after him.
He can't get him.

1146
00:52:22,667 --> 00:52:24,709
Cassius Clay's not throwing
any punches at first.

1147
00:52:24,792 --> 00:52:26,667
He's just moving.

1148
00:52:26,750 --> 00:52:28,959
[announcer] Cassius Clay's
on the move, as we see,

1149
00:52:29,041 --> 00:52:30,875
looking to get Sonny
to lunge.

1150
00:52:30,959 --> 00:52:33,083
♪ dramatic music ♪

1151
00:52:33,166 --> 00:52:35,917
Cassius Clay was outthinking
Sonny Liston.

1152
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,750
Liston was fighting
to the death,

1153
00:52:37,834 --> 00:52:39,959
but he wasn't fighting Sonny.
He was running through Sonny.

1154
00:52:40,041 --> 00:52:41,000
And that threw Sonny off.

1155
00:52:41,083 --> 00:52:43,500
But as he got close
to the bell,

1156
00:52:43,583 --> 00:52:46,375
he threw a flurry of punches
that all landed.

1157
00:52:46,458 --> 00:52:49,583
And that was
to let Liston know

1158
00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:50,750
that he had something too.

1159
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:54,041
♪♪♪

1160
00:52:54,125 --> 00:52:56,250
And I'm saying,
"That son of a bitch.

1161
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:58,208
I can't believe he's doing
this to Liston.

1162
00:52:58,291 --> 00:52:59,417
It's gotta be a trap.

1163
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:01,583
Liston's gotta be setting
a trap."

1164
00:53:01,667 --> 00:53:03,208
[Roberts] But then Clay starts
hitting him.

1165
00:53:03,291 --> 00:53:04,667
Hitting him
a little bit harder.

1166
00:53:04,750 --> 00:53:06,500
Right crosses,
right leads.

1167
00:53:06,583 --> 00:53:08,959
[announcer] Sonny rattled,
Sonny rattled.

1168
00:53:09,041 --> 00:53:11,750
Cassius has him hurt!

1169
00:53:11,834 --> 00:53:15,125
And all of a sudden there's
puffiness under Liston's eye.

1170
00:53:15,208 --> 00:53:17,917
And then suddenly in
the third round, boom.

1171
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,750
[announcer] He has a cut
below the eye

1172
00:53:19,834 --> 00:53:23,458
and he's getting hit with
all the punches in the book.

1173
00:53:23,542 --> 00:53:26,083
Liston had never been cut
before in a fight.

1174
00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:27,709
[Izenberg] Whoever was there

1175
00:53:27,792 --> 00:53:28,625
saw the blood
and then we went--

1176
00:53:28,709 --> 00:53:29,583
[gasps]

1177
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:32,208
It was like the room
was a giant vacuum

1178
00:53:32,291 --> 00:53:35,083
and suddenly sucked all the air
out of it.

1179
00:53:35,166 --> 00:53:38,208
And then when the bell rang
and Liston was still upright--

1180
00:53:38,291 --> 00:53:39,458
[sighs]
All the air went out again.

1181
00:53:39,542 --> 00:53:42,625
Now, the fourth round was a,
uh, notorious round.

1182
00:53:42,709 --> 00:53:46,792
Clay started to feel a burning
sensation in his eye.

1183
00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:49,625
And it got worse.

1184
00:53:49,709 --> 00:53:51,291
He told Angelo Dundee,
his trainer,

1185
00:53:51,375 --> 00:53:55,000
"Cut the gloves off.
I can't see.

1186
00:53:55,083 --> 00:53:56,333
We're going home."

1187
00:53:56,417 --> 00:53:58,917
[Roberts] The question in
Clay's corner is,

1188
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,458
what happened?

1189
00:54:00,542 --> 00:54:03,834
Can we get this guy out
fighting again?

1190
00:54:05,458 --> 00:54:10,166
[Collins] What got in Clay's
eyes is a matter of debate.

1191
00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:12,458
Boxers use liniment sometimes
on themselves

1192
00:54:12,542 --> 00:54:13,792
to--muscle aches
and stuff like that.

1193
00:54:13,875 --> 00:54:19,041
The original theory was some of
that had got on Liston's glove

1194
00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:21,208
and accidentally got into
Clay's eyes.

1195
00:54:21,291 --> 00:54:24,333
I don't think that's
what happened.

1196
00:54:24,417 --> 00:54:26,542
Other fighters who had fought
Liston--Cleveland Williams,

1197
00:54:26,625 --> 00:54:29,000
Eddie Machen--had complained
that something had gotten

1198
00:54:29,083 --> 00:54:31,875
in their eyes--Monsel's
solution in their eyes.

1199
00:54:31,959 --> 00:54:34,166
The belief was--and that we
have some evidence--

1200
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:36,375
that Liston's gloves
were loaded.

1201
00:54:36,458 --> 00:54:38,583
Now, all hell breaks loose
in that corner.

1202
00:54:38,667 --> 00:54:41,834
That was not a corner of great
decorum ever anyway,

1203
00:54:41,917 --> 00:54:44,083
with Bundini and with Angelo.

1204
00:54:44,166 --> 00:54:46,417
[announcer] That's Angelo
Dundee

1205
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:47,417
that he was arguing
with, Joe.

1206
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:49,500
Angelo now is telling him
off a little bit

1207
00:54:49,583 --> 00:54:50,542
while he gets him ready.

1208
00:54:50,625 --> 00:54:53,083
[Collins] Angelo Dundee
was an old pro.

1209
00:54:53,166 --> 00:54:54,417
He knew what to do.

1210
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,375
He said,
"Cut this bullshit out.

1211
00:54:56,458 --> 00:54:58,875
Go out there and run."

1212
00:54:58,959 --> 00:55:02,834
[Roberts] And that led
to the dramatic round five.

1213
00:55:02,917 --> 00:55:05,417
The belief was Clay's
gonna get killed.

1214
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:06,500
[announcer] His eyes
are bothering him.

1215
00:55:06,583 --> 00:55:09,709
They're yelling from
Cassius Clay's corner.

1216
00:55:09,792 --> 00:55:11,500
[Rahmen Muhammad] Bundini was
working the corner.

1217
00:55:11,583 --> 00:55:14,041
And Bundini was saying,
"Keep a yard stick out there!

1218
00:55:14,125 --> 00:55:15,417
Keep a yard stick--"

1219
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:17,709
That mean keep
the left hand out.

1220
00:55:17,792 --> 00:55:18,583
'Cause Sonny was trying
to come at him,

1221
00:55:18,667 --> 00:55:21,542
but literally the man
was blind.

1222
00:55:21,625 --> 00:55:22,125
♪♪♪

1223
00:55:22,208 --> 00:55:23,709
Liston hits him a lot.

1224
00:55:23,792 --> 00:55:27,208
♪♪♪

1225
00:55:27,291 --> 00:55:29,041
Liston just can't hurt him,

1226
00:55:29,125 --> 00:55:30,959
can't knock him out.

1227
00:55:31,041 --> 00:55:33,709
And by the end of the round,
the last minute of the round,

1228
00:55:33,792 --> 00:55:37,208
Clay's eyes had cleared and
Clay just takes him apart.

1229
00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:38,917
Hits him with everything.

1230
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,208
Hits him with hooks.

1231
00:55:41,291 --> 00:55:42,750
Hits him with jabs.

1232
00:55:42,834 --> 00:55:44,625
Hits him with
right hand leads.

1233
00:55:44,709 --> 00:55:45,458
[bell rings]

1234
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:50,959
[Collins] When Liston flopped
his butt down on the stool

1235
00:55:51,041 --> 00:55:51,959
at the end of the sixth round,

1236
00:55:52,041 --> 00:55:55,250
he said, "That's it."

1237
00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:56,583
Willie Reddish didn't know
what he was saying.

1238
00:55:56,667 --> 00:56:00,458
He put the mouthpiece in
to go out for the next round.

1239
00:56:00,542 --> 00:56:03,792
Sonny spit it out and he said,
"I said that's it."

1240
00:56:03,875 --> 00:56:05,750
And that was the end
of the fight.

1241
00:56:05,834 --> 00:56:06,667
[bell rings]

1242
00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:08,959
[announcer] They might be
stopping it.

1243
00:56:09,041 --> 00:56:10,709
That might be all,
ladies and gentlemen.

1244
00:56:10,792 --> 00:56:13,083
I think it was unacceptable
that Sonny Liston didn't get

1245
00:56:13,166 --> 00:56:14,125
off the stool.

1246
00:56:14,208 --> 00:56:17,166
He should have carried on.

1247
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:18,917
[Lipsyte] If you're heavyweight
champion,

1248
00:56:19,041 --> 00:56:20,500
you die trying.

1249
00:56:20,583 --> 00:56:23,291
But he just kind of sat there.

1250
00:56:23,375 --> 00:56:25,583
He gave up.

1251
00:56:26,583 --> 00:56:27,500
Why did he give up?

1252
00:56:27,583 --> 00:56:31,125
And this, of course,
is the mystery

1253
00:56:31,208 --> 00:56:32,917
at the heart of it all.

1254
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,166
Did he give up because
he was in such

1255
00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:39,375
terrible agony
he couldn't move?

1256
00:56:39,458 --> 00:56:42,417
Did he give up because
he suddenly realized

1257
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:44,542
he couldn't win this fight?

1258
00:56:44,625 --> 00:56:47,458
Did he give up because he had
been paid

1259
00:56:47,542 --> 00:56:50,458
to dump it at some point?

1260
00:56:50,542 --> 00:56:52,250
Um, who knows?

1261
00:56:52,333 --> 00:56:56,750
♪♪♪

1262
00:56:58,625 --> 00:57:00,709
[Farrell] There were two
Clay-Liston fights.

1263
00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:04,166
The first fight
was the real fix.

1264
00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:07,500
And let me talk about that
a little bit.

1265
00:57:08,583 --> 00:57:11,333
The mob isn't in the boxing
business to do anything

1266
00:57:11,417 --> 00:57:14,166
other than to make money.

1267
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:16,834
The odds were eight to one.

1268
00:57:16,917 --> 00:57:20,000
They could make a tremendous
amount of money

1269
00:57:20,083 --> 00:57:21,291
betting against Liston.

1270
00:57:21,375 --> 00:57:24,458
That was where the money
really was.

1271
00:57:24,542 --> 00:57:26,667
You know, a guy who would have
had to go years and years

1272
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:31,083
fighting fights that didn't
interest the public.

1273
00:57:31,166 --> 00:57:36,125
Or you cash him in--this old
guy--right away.

1274
00:57:36,834 --> 00:57:38,834
This is really boxing 101.

1275
00:57:38,917 --> 00:57:40,750
[Roberts] I think it's utter
nonsense to say

1276
00:57:40,834 --> 00:57:42,667
that first fight was fixed.

1277
00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:46,375
If Sonny was trying
to fix the fight,

1278
00:57:46,458 --> 00:57:49,291
why was he loading up his
gloves before round four?

1279
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:52,834
He was loading up the gloves
to blind Clay

1280
00:57:52,917 --> 00:57:54,000
to win the fight.

1281
00:57:54,083 --> 00:57:56,208
[Rahmen Muhammad] Sonny wanted
to kill that man.

1282
00:57:56,291 --> 00:57:58,417
I guarantee and just about put
my life on it.

1283
00:57:58,500 --> 00:57:59,625
That wasn't no fix.

1284
00:57:59,709 --> 00:58:00,250
That was a good ass whooping.

1285
00:58:00,333 --> 00:58:04,000
♪ dramatic music ♪

1286
00:58:04,083 --> 00:58:09,208
♪♪♪

1287
00:58:12,792 --> 00:58:16,166
[Long] When Sonny lost the
title, it made me feel

1288
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:17,875
really, really, really sad.

1289
00:58:17,959 --> 00:58:19,542
♪♪♪

1290
00:58:19,625 --> 00:58:21,417
I mean, I cried.
I actually cried.

1291
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,375
So, my uncle got beat up?

1292
00:58:24,458 --> 00:58:26,417
You know, that's the term
I could remember using.

1293
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:27,667
♪♪♪

1294
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:29,792
Beat my uncle Charles up?
Oh, no.

1295
00:58:29,875 --> 00:58:31,250
That didn't go well at all
with me.

1296
00:58:31,333 --> 00:58:33,333
♪♪♪

1297
00:58:33,417 --> 00:58:36,417
I was anticipating Sonny
holding onto that title

1298
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,250
for at least five, six years.

1299
00:58:38,333 --> 00:58:42,250
Make himself
$30, 40 million,

1300
00:58:42,333 --> 00:58:45,709
whatever the case may be,

1301
00:58:45,792 --> 00:58:48,583
and live a good life.

1302
00:58:48,667 --> 00:58:51,917
But that wasn't the plan.

1303
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,750
♪♪♪

1304
00:58:54,834 --> 00:58:57,083
[Assael] Sonny didn't have a
friend after that fight.

1305
00:58:57,166 --> 00:58:58,792
Maybe Ash.

1306
00:58:58,875 --> 00:58:59,417
But otherwise, Sonny didn't
have a friend.

1307
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,333
I mean, Sonny was toxic.

1308
00:59:01,417 --> 00:59:03,542
I mean, really radioactive.

1309
00:59:03,625 --> 00:59:07,542
Reporters--who are looking
to descend on him anyway--

1310
00:59:07,625 --> 00:59:11,500
came at him hard
like a group of vultures.

1311
00:59:11,583 --> 00:59:13,834
The press was saying
Sonny was a dog.

1312
00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:14,834
Sonny was a quitter.

1313
00:59:14,917 --> 00:59:16,417
Sonny threw the fight.
I mean, there were--

1314
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,208
You know,
they couldn't explain it.

1315
00:59:19,291 --> 00:59:21,959
It only added
to his bad reputation,

1316
00:59:22,041 --> 00:59:24,834
not as an individual,
but as a fighter.

1317
00:59:24,917 --> 00:59:27,166
And it was probably the worst
thing he did in his career.

1318
00:59:27,250 --> 00:59:30,750
♪♪♪

1319
00:59:33,208 --> 00:59:36,083
[Lipsyte] The second fight
was booked to be in Boston.

1320
00:59:36,166 --> 00:59:38,375
The Kennedys pushed it
out of Boston

1321
00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:42,250
because of the criminality
around Liston.

1322
00:59:42,333 --> 00:59:44,458
So it ended up in
Lewiston, Maine.

1323
00:59:44,542 --> 00:59:45,458
[Izenberg] Lewiston, Maine.

1324
00:59:45,542 --> 00:59:48,333
Small town on
the Canadian border

1325
00:59:48,417 --> 00:59:50,583
known for having
a bedspread factory there.

1326
00:59:50,667 --> 00:59:52,000
That's pretty much all it had.

1327
00:59:52,083 --> 00:59:56,417
♪♪♪

1328
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:59,291
There was so much tension
around that fight.

1329
00:59:59,375 --> 01:00:02,500
There was two controversial
characters fighting

1330
01:00:02,583 --> 01:00:04,667
and, you know, a lot of stuff
was going on.

1331
01:00:04,750 --> 01:00:07,125
♪♪♪

1332
01:00:07,208 --> 01:00:09,667
[Izenberg] In the months
following that first fight,

1333
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:14,417
Elijah Muhammad gave Cassius
Clay the name Muhammad Ali.

1334
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:16,041
Muhammad means
"worthy of all praises,"

1335
01:00:16,125 --> 01:00:18,166
and Ali means "most high."

1336
01:00:18,250 --> 01:00:19,792
Yes, sir, I wanna be called
by that name.

1337
01:00:19,875 --> 01:00:21,500
I write autographs
with that name.

1338
01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:23,500
I wanna be known all over
the world as that name.

1339
01:00:23,583 --> 01:00:25,500
You want us to call you
what name?

1340
01:00:25,583 --> 01:00:29,417
That is the furthest thing from

1341
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:31,834
sort of the minds of white folk

1342
01:00:31,917 --> 01:00:34,709
when it comes
to black respectability.

1343
01:00:34,792 --> 01:00:36,875
♪♪♪

1344
01:00:36,959 --> 01:00:39,834
[Roberts] Shortly after that,
Malcolm X was thrown out

1345
01:00:39,917 --> 01:00:43,875
of the Nation of Islam
by Elijah Muhammad.

1346
01:00:43,959 --> 01:00:46,208
That tension between
the two factions

1347
01:00:46,291 --> 01:00:47,959
just continues to build

1348
01:00:48,041 --> 01:00:50,917
with Elijah Muhammad and
others really pushing this

1349
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,250
idea that Malcolm is a traitor
and deserves no fate

1350
01:00:53,333 --> 01:00:55,792
other than death.

1351
01:00:55,875 --> 01:00:59,500
Malcolm X and anybody else
who attacks or talks about

1352
01:00:59,583 --> 01:01:03,333
attacking Elijah Muhammad
will die.

1353
01:01:03,417 --> 01:01:05,709
Just when you think the
social issues that are swirling

1354
01:01:05,792 --> 01:01:08,583
around boxing can't get
any more raw,

1355
01:01:08,667 --> 01:01:10,417
Malcolm X gets assassinated.

1356
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:14,667
♪♪♪

1357
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:17,166
Some thought that the Nation
was behind his assassination.

1358
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:20,792
So to have Ali still fighting
under the banner of the Nation

1359
01:01:20,875 --> 01:01:24,583
adds this whole other overlay
to that fight.

1360
01:01:24,667 --> 01:01:27,625
So there was a real kind of
undercurrent

1361
01:01:27,709 --> 01:01:30,917
of existential terror
up in Lewiston, Maine.

1362
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:37,208
All sorts of rumors floating
around before this fight,

1363
01:01:37,291 --> 01:01:40,375
that there are people
who had supported Malcolm

1364
01:01:40,458 --> 01:01:43,959
that were going to come
to the fight and assassinate

1365
01:01:44,041 --> 01:01:45,750
Muhammad Ali.

1366
01:01:45,834 --> 01:01:47,792
♪♪♪

1367
01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:50,959
There were rumors going
around that white women

1368
01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:54,834
were going to be smuggling
hand guns into the arena

1369
01:01:54,917 --> 01:01:58,041
for their black lovers
to kill Cassius in the ring.

1370
01:01:58,125 --> 01:02:00,875
And so they abled these cops
and state troopers,

1371
01:02:00,959 --> 01:02:04,792
they were opening up women's
purses looking for guns,

1372
01:02:04,875 --> 01:02:07,959
while at the same time nobody
was guarding the doors

1373
01:02:08,041 --> 01:02:11,458
or the windows, and local kids
were climbing in.

1374
01:02:11,542 --> 01:02:13,250
It was--it was crazy.

1375
01:02:17,333 --> 01:02:18,875
[Izenberg] Sonny's plan
was very simple.

1376
01:02:18,959 --> 01:02:21,667
He would knock Ali out
in the first round.

1377
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,291
He would put such pressure
on him that Ali

1378
01:02:23,375 --> 01:02:24,375
would have to fall.

1379
01:02:24,458 --> 01:02:28,959
♪ dramatic music ♪

1380
01:02:29,041 --> 01:02:30,875
[Majeski] Liston got more
cheers than Ali.

1381
01:02:30,959 --> 01:02:33,000
They finally said,
"Well, between these two,

1382
01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:35,125
the lesser of the evils
is Sonny Liston.

1383
01:02:35,208 --> 01:02:38,500
So we'll cheer this ex-convict
who lost his title

1384
01:02:38,583 --> 01:02:41,500
on the stool rather than
root for a guy who says

1385
01:02:41,583 --> 01:02:43,333
he's a black Muslim
separatist."

1386
01:02:43,417 --> 01:02:47,041
The challenger,
Sonny Liston.

1387
01:02:47,125 --> 01:02:48,375
[cheers and applause]

1388
01:02:48,458 --> 01:02:51,583
[announcer] Sonny Liston very
popular with the folks here

1389
01:02:51,667 --> 01:02:53,750
in Lewiston, Maine.
No kidding about that.

1390
01:02:53,834 --> 01:02:54,792
[Majeski] He enjoyed that.

1391
01:02:54,875 --> 01:02:58,333
He sort of basked in that
kind of glory

1392
01:02:58,417 --> 01:02:59,750
for the first time in his life.

1393
01:03:00,917 --> 01:03:02,625
But then what happens
is the Kennedy assassination

1394
01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,959
of boxing.
Everybody's got an idea.

1395
01:03:05,041 --> 01:03:06,583
Nobody has the truth.

1396
01:03:06,667 --> 01:03:09,959
When the fight started,
it didn't last very long.

1397
01:03:10,041 --> 01:03:12,542
♪♪♪

1398
01:03:12,625 --> 01:03:16,709
There was hardly an exchange
when Liston went down.

1399
01:03:16,792 --> 01:03:19,041
I was at ringside and I
didn't really understand

1400
01:03:19,125 --> 01:03:20,542
what was going on.

1401
01:03:20,625 --> 01:03:22,125
I was sitting next
to Howard Cosell who had

1402
01:03:22,208 --> 01:03:27,208
a monitor, so we replayed it
100 times right away

1403
01:03:27,291 --> 01:03:28,333
to watch it again.

1404
01:03:28,417 --> 01:03:29,375
And maybe by the 100th time,
I saw the punch.

1405
01:03:29,458 --> 01:03:31,917
I don't know.

1406
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,542
[Collins] He did clip him
with a right hand.

1407
01:03:33,625 --> 01:03:36,709
How hard it is,
only Sonny Liston knew.

1408
01:03:36,792 --> 01:03:39,667
I think the punch that
Muhammad Ali hit Sonny Liston

1409
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:40,959
with in the second fight,
I think it was enough

1410
01:03:41,041 --> 01:03:42,375
to knock him down,
especially if he didn't

1411
01:03:42,458 --> 01:03:44,458
see the punch.

1412
01:03:45,625 --> 01:03:48,166
[Rahmen Muhammad] I told
Muhammad Ali to punch,

1413
01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:49,959
then he knocked
Sonny Liston out.

1414
01:03:50,041 --> 01:03:53,542
It was them kind of punches
you use in karate.

1415
01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:55,583
You know, when you're punching
in karate,

1416
01:03:55,667 --> 01:03:56,625
you turn it when you hit.

1417
01:03:56,709 --> 01:03:59,750
You know, it's a twist.

1418
01:03:59,834 --> 01:04:01,083
Yow!

1419
01:04:01,166 --> 01:04:01,959
Popped him right
on the jawbone.

1420
01:04:02,041 --> 01:04:05,083
And the punch was so fast
and so quick.

1421
01:04:05,166 --> 01:04:08,083
I didn't know the punch
was gonna knock him out.

1422
01:04:08,166 --> 01:04:09,083
But it did.

1423
01:04:09,166 --> 01:04:11,458
♪♪♪

1424
01:04:11,542 --> 01:04:14,625
[Lipsyte] Now it turns into
theatre.

1425
01:04:14,709 --> 01:04:18,041
Ali, he's challenging Liston,
"Get up, chump!

1426
01:04:18,125 --> 01:04:19,250
Get up and fight!"

1427
01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:21,208
♪♪♪

1428
01:04:21,291 --> 01:04:23,000
[Majeski] Liston rolls over.

1429
01:04:23,083 --> 01:04:25,875
Attempts to get up
and rolls over again.

1430
01:04:25,959 --> 01:04:26,583
♪♪♪

1431
01:04:26,667 --> 01:04:29,166
Ali is shouting and screaming.

1432
01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:31,250
Jersey Joe Walcott loses
complete control of the fight.

1433
01:04:31,333 --> 01:04:34,959
Finally Liston does get up.
They start exchanging blows.

1434
01:04:35,041 --> 01:04:37,542
[Izenberg] Suddenly
Nat Fleischer--

1435
01:04:37,625 --> 01:04:39,041
the editor of  The Ring
magazine--

1436
01:04:39,125 --> 01:04:43,750
stands on a chair and goes--

1437
01:04:43,834 --> 01:04:45,500
Fleisher yells over
to Jersey Joe Walker,

1438
01:04:45,583 --> 01:04:46,709
"Stop the fight.
It's over.

1439
01:04:46,792 --> 01:04:48,542
The count--He's counted out."

1440
01:04:50,417 --> 01:04:54,458
Walcott stops the fight.
Utter absolute confusion.

1441
01:04:56,834 --> 01:04:59,125
[Izenberg] A full-throated
roar begins.

1442
01:04:59,208 --> 01:05:02,125
Fix, fix, fix, fix.

1443
01:05:02,208 --> 01:05:05,375
And I heard that for an hour,
probably, while I was writing.

1444
01:05:05,458 --> 01:05:08,625
And still the heavyweight

1445
01:05:08,709 --> 01:05:09,500
champion of the world,

1446
01:05:09,583 --> 01:05:11,959
Muhammad Ali.

1447
01:05:12,041 --> 01:05:14,291
[announcer] One of the most
controversial

1448
01:05:14,375 --> 01:05:15,458
of all title fights.

1449
01:05:15,542 --> 01:05:17,208
[Farrell] There was a real
"fuck you" element here.

1450
01:05:17,291 --> 01:05:22,709
I mean, I think it was a kind
of standard wise guy move.

1451
01:05:22,792 --> 01:05:24,792
♪♪♪

1452
01:05:24,875 --> 01:05:26,500
The fix is the first fight.

1453
01:05:26,583 --> 01:05:28,166
That's the money-making fight.

1454
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:32,041
The second fight is picking up
the few remaining

1455
01:05:32,125 --> 01:05:34,709
chips off the table
and going home.

1456
01:05:35,625 --> 01:05:37,333
[Assael] Why fix the fight?

1457
01:05:37,417 --> 01:05:39,959
Well, that's where the secret
percentage theory comes in,

1458
01:05:40,041 --> 01:05:43,625
which is that Sonny had agreed
to an under-the-table deal

1459
01:05:43,709 --> 01:05:47,458
to get a cut of Ali's future
earnings if he went down.

1460
01:05:47,542 --> 01:05:49,834
It's exactly what a mobster
would have done

1461
01:05:49,917 --> 01:05:52,000
and it's exactly, I think,
what Sonny did do.

1462
01:05:53,625 --> 01:05:55,166
The other reason that I think
that theory is persuasive

1463
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:58,500
is the role of Ash Resnick.
He was there at the fight.

1464
01:05:58,583 --> 01:06:00,041
Think about it.
That's exactly the kind

1465
01:06:00,125 --> 01:06:02,375
of deal Ash was an expert
at making.

1466
01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:05,291
♪♪♪

1467
01:06:05,375 --> 01:06:06,500
[Kilroy] It's not true.

1468
01:06:06,583 --> 01:06:08,041
♪♪♪

1469
01:06:08,125 --> 01:06:10,500
All the stuff about
Sonny Liston having a part

1470
01:06:10,583 --> 01:06:12,667
of Ali's purse,
that never happened.

1471
01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:14,250
Who would make
an agreement like that?

1472
01:06:14,333 --> 01:06:15,750
Who would make an agreement
like that?

1473
01:06:15,834 --> 01:06:17,792
That's crazy.

1474
01:06:17,875 --> 01:06:20,000
[Assael] Another rumor was
that the Nation of Islam

1475
01:06:20,083 --> 01:06:21,875
was sending contract crew
killers to shoot Sonny

1476
01:06:21,959 --> 01:06:24,333
unless Sonny took a dive.

1477
01:06:24,417 --> 01:06:25,500
♪♪♪

1478
01:06:25,583 --> 01:06:29,834
My mother says that Geraldine
virtually disappeared

1479
01:06:29,917 --> 01:06:32,667
for a few days before the fight
and she didn't know what was

1480
01:06:32,750 --> 01:06:34,375
wrong or how to get, uh,
in touch with her.

1481
01:06:34,458 --> 01:06:35,750
And then when she did
see her,

1482
01:06:35,834 --> 01:06:38,166
she said she'd literally
gone white.

1483
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:40,792
The black Muslims somehow
got to Sonny.

1484
01:06:41,458 --> 01:06:43,959
[Rahmen Muhammad] Hogwash.

1485
01:06:44,041 --> 01:06:45,875
The whole story is this.

1486
01:06:45,959 --> 01:06:49,083
I got a letter from the
honorable Elijah Muhammad

1487
01:06:49,166 --> 01:06:52,083
and told me, said just don't
get Cassius Clay.

1488
01:06:52,166 --> 01:06:54,542
Try to get Sonny to be
a Muslim too.

1489
01:06:54,625 --> 01:06:59,083
♪♪♪

1490
01:06:59,166 --> 01:07:01,792
So I tried to get to Sonny,
but they wouldn't let me

1491
01:07:01,875 --> 01:07:03,458
get to him.

1492
01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:08,458
♪♪♪

1493
01:07:08,542 --> 01:07:11,417
[Assael] After the second
fight, Sonny's a dead man.

1494
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:13,250
♪♪♪

1495
01:07:13,333 --> 01:07:15,083
He's not only just reviled,
right?

1496
01:07:15,166 --> 01:07:17,125
I mean, he can't even
get a job.

1497
01:07:17,208 --> 01:07:19,542
Boxing commissions
won't license him.

1498
01:07:19,625 --> 01:07:21,166
So the way Sonny sees this,
you know,

1499
01:07:21,250 --> 01:07:23,375
let Joe Louis
be America's hero.

1500
01:07:23,458 --> 01:07:25,709
Let Ali be a voice
of a generation.

1501
01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:27,291
You know, fuck it.

1502
01:07:27,375 --> 01:07:30,750
♪♪♪

1503
01:07:30,834 --> 01:07:32,667
Sonny moves into this
neighborhood

1504
01:07:32,750 --> 01:07:35,291
called Paradise Palms thanks
to Ash Resnick who gets him

1505
01:07:35,375 --> 01:07:39,792
a sweet little deal on a
bungalow on a winding street.

1506
01:07:39,875 --> 01:07:41,834
♪♪♪

1507
01:07:41,917 --> 01:07:42,792
[Gentry] That was a very
exclusive

1508
01:07:42,875 --> 01:07:44,750
neighborhood at the time,

1509
01:07:44,834 --> 01:07:47,583
and people were just so up
in arms not only that my father

1510
01:07:47,667 --> 01:07:50,583
would arrange to have the home
sold to a black person

1511
01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:52,458
but to Sonny Liston,
of all people.

1512
01:07:52,542 --> 01:07:55,959
♪♪♪

1513
01:07:56,041 --> 01:07:57,291
[Assael] He suddenly right
there on the fairway

1514
01:07:57,375 --> 01:08:00,750
of the Stardust country club,
he's able to go running

1515
01:08:00,834 --> 01:08:02,291
in the mornings,
waving at his famous neighbors.

1516
01:08:03,375 --> 01:08:06,291
Going to a little golf club
in the afternoon

1517
01:08:06,375 --> 01:08:08,583
where he might run into
Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin

1518
01:08:08,667 --> 01:08:10,667
or Sammy, you know,
drinking cocktails.

1519
01:08:10,750 --> 01:08:12,333
♪♪♪

1520
01:08:12,417 --> 01:08:13,959
On the face of it,
Vegas was great.

1521
01:08:14,041 --> 01:08:15,750
The problem was that,
you know,

1522
01:08:15,834 --> 01:08:18,834
Sonny didn't have any nest egg.
He was cut up.

1523
01:08:18,917 --> 01:08:23,000
He probably didn't even know
how much of himself he owned.

1524
01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:24,000
[Roberts] Sonny's money has
been going

1525
01:08:24,083 --> 01:08:25,959
a lot of different places.

1526
01:08:26,041 --> 01:08:29,500
And it's not going to him.
He's not a wealthy man.

1527
01:08:29,583 --> 01:08:32,000
All he knows is fighting,
so you keep fighting.

1528
01:08:32,083 --> 01:08:33,875
That's what fighters do.

1529
01:08:33,959 --> 01:08:37,709
Fighters keep fighting until
they can't fight anymore.

1530
01:08:37,792 --> 01:08:40,208
Until they get defeated
too many times

1531
01:08:40,291 --> 01:08:41,500
or they die.

1532
01:08:41,583 --> 01:08:46,667
♪♪♪

1533
01:08:46,750 --> 01:08:48,667
[announcer] How about
Mrs. Liston?

1534
01:08:48,750 --> 01:08:50,041
What does she think about
all this fighting

1535
01:08:50,125 --> 01:08:51,959
and your activities?

1536
01:08:52,041 --> 01:08:54,375
Well, she think that I should
have got another--

1537
01:08:54,458 --> 01:08:55,875
picked out another sport.

1538
01:08:55,959 --> 01:08:57,417
What other sport?

1539
01:08:57,500 --> 01:08:59,583
Anything
except for fighting.

1540
01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:02,208
♪♪♪

1541
01:09:02,291 --> 01:09:04,542
[Roberts] The so-called
comeback

1542
01:09:04,625 --> 01:09:06,333
was really a sad
downward arc.

1543
01:09:06,417 --> 01:09:10,041
He was--he was on the skids.
It was over.

1544
01:09:10,125 --> 01:09:13,083
He was--it became clearer
and clearer he was not

1545
01:09:13,166 --> 01:09:15,166
going to make it back.

1546
01:09:15,250 --> 01:09:16,917
♪♪♪

1547
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,583
[announcer] Yeah,
right by Martin! Oh!

1548
01:09:20,667 --> 01:09:23,583
Liston was not the fighter
he had once been.

1549
01:09:23,667 --> 01:09:25,667
I think there's no question
about that.

1550
01:09:25,750 --> 01:09:27,834
♪♪♪

1551
01:09:27,917 --> 01:09:30,000
[Kilroy] It was over then.

1552
01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:32,000
Sonny became
the perfect opponent,

1553
01:09:32,083 --> 01:09:34,250
fighting here, fighting there,
picking up the payday.

1554
01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:38,208
♪♪♪

1555
01:09:38,291 --> 01:09:40,291
[Collins] Sonny had one last
fight.

1556
01:09:40,375 --> 01:09:43,792
He fought a guy called
the Bayonne Bleeder.

1557
01:09:43,875 --> 01:09:45,041
Chuck Wepner.

1558
01:09:45,125 --> 01:09:47,625
♪♪♪

1559
01:09:47,709 --> 01:09:49,166
[Farrell] Sonny's last fight
against Chuck Wepner

1560
01:09:49,250 --> 01:09:51,166
is very, very interesting.

1561
01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:53,083
He factors into the story
I think in a major way.

1562
01:09:53,166 --> 01:09:55,417
♪♪♪

1563
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,250
Liston was not brought into
that fight to win.

1564
01:09:58,333 --> 01:10:00,083
♪♪♪

1565
01:10:00,166 --> 01:10:03,959
I believe the Wepner fight
was a deal that went

1566
01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:05,583
terribly, terribly wrong.

1567
01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:07,250
♪♪♪

1568
01:10:07,333 --> 01:10:09,250
In the first round,
Sonny Liston comes out

1569
01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:12,125
and throws a left hook, and
Chuck Wepner's eye breaks open

1570
01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:14,458
above his right eyebrow,
and there's a cut,

1571
01:10:14,542 --> 01:10:15,667
and it starts bleeding.

1572
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:18,208
And every time he hit Wepner,
Wepner would open up

1573
01:10:18,291 --> 01:10:20,125
another cut.

1574
01:10:20,208 --> 01:10:20,875
It was a gory, bloody mess.

1575
01:10:20,959 --> 01:10:22,959
♪♪♪

1576
01:10:23,041 --> 01:10:24,959
As the rounds went by,

1577
01:10:25,041 --> 01:10:27,417
Liston couldn't find
a place to fall.

1578
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:30,375
Wepner is increasingly
beat up,

1579
01:10:30,458 --> 01:10:31,959
and eventually the fight

1580
01:10:32,041 --> 01:10:33,333
gets stopped
because of the cuts.

1581
01:10:34,875 --> 01:10:36,959
Liston won the fight.

1582
01:10:37,041 --> 01:10:39,417
So it's a series of
miscommunications

1583
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:42,208
where nobody does exactly
what they're supposed to do.

1584
01:10:42,291 --> 01:10:43,792
[glass shatters]

1585
01:10:43,875 --> 01:10:46,125
The mob lost a lot of money,

1586
01:10:46,208 --> 01:10:49,291
and there were
dire consequences.

1587
01:10:49,375 --> 01:10:53,500
♪♪♪

1588
01:11:05,583 --> 01:11:08,959
[Majeski] Soon after that, he's
pretty much down to his own.

1589
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:13,959
Where does Sonny Liston go?
What does Sonny Liston do?

1590
01:11:14,041 --> 01:11:16,417
He went back to where he was
at the beginning of the career.

1591
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:18,166
To the St. Louis streets.

1592
01:11:18,250 --> 01:11:19,291
He went back to the west side
of Las Vegas.

1593
01:11:19,375 --> 01:11:21,667
Same element,
different location.

1594
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:24,667
♪♪♪

1595
01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:26,208
He was always involved
in a criminal culture,

1596
01:11:26,291 --> 01:11:28,166
whether by choice
or necessity.

1597
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:31,583
Sonny went to what
he knew best.

1598
01:11:31,667 --> 01:11:34,333
♪♪♪

1599
01:11:34,417 --> 01:11:35,667
[Jeffries] The west side of
Vegas

1600
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:37,375
was not very different at all

1601
01:11:37,458 --> 01:11:40,875
from other black communities
across America.

1602
01:11:40,959 --> 01:11:43,583
Uh, high concentration
of poverty,

1603
01:11:43,667 --> 01:11:46,375
uh, low job opportunities,
and rife with crime,

1604
01:11:46,458 --> 01:11:51,083
uh, in part because they became
areas where crime,

1605
01:11:51,166 --> 01:11:51,917
uh, became tolerated.

1606
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,583
♪♪♪

1607
01:11:54,667 --> 01:12:00,166
Sonny Liston had a beautiful
home on the golf course--

1608
01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:01,875
Las Vegas golf course.

1609
01:12:01,959 --> 01:12:04,417
But he also was there on
the west side quite a bit.

1610
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,875
♪♪♪

1611
01:12:07,959 --> 01:12:11,041
Sonny came to the west side
to let his hair down,

1612
01:12:11,125 --> 01:12:13,166
to be with his people.

1613
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:16,208
The fact he did something
with nothing

1614
01:12:16,291 --> 01:12:17,542
is what they respected him
for.

1615
01:12:17,625 --> 01:12:20,709
Whereas on the strip,
they just look at him

1616
01:12:20,792 --> 01:12:22,625
as a loser to Ali.

1617
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:25,667
♪♪♪

1618
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:28,291
Every morning he would go
to Friendly Liquor Store

1619
01:12:28,375 --> 01:12:31,750
and buy two bottles of wine
before he--

1620
01:12:31,834 --> 01:12:32,625
to start his day out.

1621
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:36,250
And we'd had 16 murders
in one year

1622
01:12:36,333 --> 01:12:37,875
in that one bar alone.

1623
01:12:37,959 --> 01:12:40,417
Uh, when the police got a call
at Friendly's,

1624
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,959
they answered those calls
in force with shotguns.

1625
01:12:44,041 --> 01:12:44,917
It was a dangerous place.

1626
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,583
♪♪♪

1627
01:12:48,667 --> 01:12:51,750
The people that he was hanging
out with were killers.

1628
01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:53,917
They would kill you
in a heartbeat.

1629
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,333
Of course now, he wore a .38
on his ankle,

1630
01:12:55,417 --> 01:12:59,917
so he was pretty well in
with the crew.

1631
01:13:00,041 --> 01:13:01,875
One of the more colorful
figures that Sonny was hanging

1632
01:13:01,959 --> 01:13:05,709
out with was a jazz musician
named Red Rodney--

1633
01:13:05,792 --> 01:13:06,792
Robert Chudnick.

1634
01:13:06,875 --> 01:13:08,291
Somebody who was there
at the founding of bebop.

1635
01:13:08,375 --> 01:13:11,458
Played with Charlie Parker.

1636
01:13:11,542 --> 01:13:13,792
He was a jazz musician by day,
a heroin dealer

1637
01:13:13,875 --> 01:13:14,792
and head of a criminal gang
by night.

1638
01:13:14,875 --> 01:13:18,208
♪♪♪

1639
01:13:18,291 --> 01:13:19,375
Sonny was no stranger
to hanging around

1640
01:13:19,458 --> 01:13:21,250
with two-bit gangsters.

1641
01:13:21,333 --> 01:13:24,041
The problem is that he was
the king of the west side,

1642
01:13:24,125 --> 01:13:25,583
but he was also the king
of the things that were done

1643
01:13:25,667 --> 01:13:27,625
on the west side.

1644
01:13:27,709 --> 01:13:29,375
And that began to pull him into
the darkness that he wouldn't

1645
01:13:29,458 --> 01:13:31,125
get out of.

1646
01:13:31,208 --> 01:13:33,750
It turned out my dad
and Sonny were doing some kind

1647
01:13:33,834 --> 01:13:35,291
of dealing together--heroin.

1648
01:13:35,375 --> 01:13:37,583
♪♪♪

1649
01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:39,625
My dad saw that Sonny
kind of liked me.

1650
01:13:39,709 --> 01:13:43,166
We had a little rapport
together and so I went with him

1651
01:13:43,250 --> 01:13:45,291
a few times to pick up
some money on collections.

1652
01:13:45,375 --> 01:13:47,917
He let me go with them.

1653
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,500
He knew that guys his age
made fun of him behind his back

1654
01:13:51,583 --> 01:13:53,458
'cause he was dumb, you know,
and he didn't read or write,

1655
01:13:53,542 --> 01:13:54,333
this and that.

1656
01:13:54,417 --> 01:13:55,333
♪♪♪

1657
01:13:55,417 --> 01:13:57,792
But kids weren't like that.

1658
01:13:57,875 --> 01:13:59,291
They considered me a kid,
you know.

1659
01:13:59,375 --> 01:14:02,917
♪♪♪

1660
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,792
I never felt afraid of him.

1661
01:14:04,875 --> 01:14:06,750
Then.

1662
01:14:08,250 --> 01:14:11,500
♪♪♪

1663
01:14:11,583 --> 01:14:14,250
[Assael] The thing about Sonny
dealing drugs on the west side

1664
01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:16,166
is it couldn't have happened
at a worse time.

1665
01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:20,500
America's public enemy
number one in the United States

1666
01:14:20,583 --> 01:14:23,208
is drug abuse.

1667
01:14:23,291 --> 01:14:25,500
In order to fight and defeat
this enemy,

1668
01:14:25,583 --> 01:14:30,166
it is necessary to wage a new
all-out offensive.

1669
01:14:30,250 --> 01:14:31,750
[Assael] Nixon's policy
in Vietnam

1670
01:14:31,834 --> 01:14:32,709
had caused his poll numbers
to sink

1671
01:14:32,792 --> 01:14:35,709
and he needed something
to rescue him.

1672
01:14:35,792 --> 01:14:38,000
So he launched an all-out
offensive on drugs,

1673
01:14:38,083 --> 01:14:41,333
which meant the number
of drug cops in Vegas

1674
01:14:41,417 --> 01:14:42,500
was starting to climb.

1675
01:14:42,583 --> 01:14:44,500
♪♪♪

1676
01:14:44,583 --> 01:14:46,917
[Gandy] All of the narcotics
divisions were beefing up.

1677
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,583
We were getting influxed with
money for the war on drugs.

1678
01:14:50,667 --> 01:14:53,709
And everybody was just
so well-known.

1679
01:14:53,792 --> 01:14:56,000
It was just a matter of time
before they brought him down.

1680
01:14:56,083 --> 01:14:59,542
♪♪♪

1681
01:14:59,625 --> 01:15:03,250
In February, 1969,
myself and two other agents

1682
01:15:03,333 --> 01:15:04,917
from the L.A. office
of the Bureau of Narcotics

1683
01:15:05,041 --> 01:15:07,000
and Dangerous Drugs
had an arrest warrant

1684
01:15:07,083 --> 01:15:10,208
for one of the bigger
traffickers

1685
01:15:10,291 --> 01:15:13,041
in the west side of Las Vegas--
Earl Cage.

1686
01:15:13,125 --> 01:15:15,208
♪♪♪

1687
01:15:15,291 --> 01:15:17,250
[Gandy] Earl Cage
was very, very dangerous.

1688
01:15:17,333 --> 01:15:19,250
In fact, we think that he
killed one of our informants,

1689
01:15:19,333 --> 01:15:20,417
but we couldn't prove it.

1690
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:22,166
He was a very dangerous man.

1691
01:15:22,250 --> 01:15:24,917
♪♪♪

1692
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,083
[Alden] We went over to his
residence to arrest him.

1693
01:15:28,166 --> 01:15:29,959
We made forced entry.

1694
01:15:30,041 --> 01:15:32,500
The first person I saw was the
former heavyweight champion

1695
01:15:32,583 --> 01:15:34,709
of the world, Sonny Liston.

1696
01:15:34,792 --> 01:15:37,458
On the other side of the bed
was the defendant, Earl Cage.

1697
01:15:37,542 --> 01:15:39,542
And I'm thinking, "Now what?

1698
01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:41,041
We got a serious problem here."

1699
01:15:41,875 --> 01:15:46,458
And then two detectives
came in, and they said,

1700
01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:48,458
"Sonny, you come with us.

1701
01:15:48,542 --> 01:15:50,125
We're gonna take care of this.

1702
01:15:50,208 --> 01:15:50,959
You come with us."

1703
01:15:51,041 --> 01:15:53,125
♪♪♪

1704
01:15:53,208 --> 01:15:55,625
Sonny was released
that evening.

1705
01:15:55,709 --> 01:15:57,917
He was the only person
that wasn't charged

1706
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,458
and subsequently convicted.

1707
01:15:59,542 --> 01:16:01,792
♪♪♪

1708
01:16:01,875 --> 01:16:05,834
If I were Earl Cage,
I would definitely think that

1709
01:16:05,917 --> 01:16:06,959
Sonny was the one
that did me in.

1710
01:16:07,041 --> 01:16:09,458
♪♪♪

1711
01:16:09,542 --> 01:16:11,375
[Gandy] But Earl was slick.

1712
01:16:11,458 --> 01:16:14,291
He would wait until the time
was just right to get you

1713
01:16:14,375 --> 01:16:16,166
so there was no suspicion.

1714
01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:21,458
♪♪♪

1715
01:16:29,166 --> 01:16:30,667
[Assael] But what was more
dangerous for Sonny

1716
01:16:30,750 --> 01:16:32,500
than crossing somebody
like Earl Cage

1717
01:16:32,583 --> 01:16:36,417
was talking about
the cut he had

1718
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:38,333
of Ali's future earnings--
the secret percentage theory.

1719
01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,667
And the reason is that

1720
01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:42,583
Ali-Frazier was
about to happen--

1721
01:16:42,667 --> 01:16:44,166
The biggest fight purse
in boxing history,

1722
01:16:44,250 --> 01:16:45,917
$5 million.

1723
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:46,917
And Sonny was walking around
the west side

1724
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,333
telling people that he had
a cut of it.

1725
01:16:49,417 --> 01:16:51,625
♪♪♪

1726
01:16:51,709 --> 01:16:54,291
[Geran] We first started
hearing

1727
01:16:54,375 --> 01:16:56,041
about Sonny Liston owning
a percentage

1728
01:16:56,125 --> 01:17:00,208
of Muhammad Ali's contract
from the barbershop.

1729
01:17:00,291 --> 01:17:04,500
He was getting a shoe shine,
and the shoe shine man

1730
01:17:04,583 --> 01:17:07,709
was taunting him about
his loss to Ali.

1731
01:17:09,917 --> 01:17:12,709
Sonny just started boasting
about,

1732
01:17:12,792 --> 01:17:14,542
"Ali works for me.

1733
01:17:14,625 --> 01:17:17,792
I own a percentage of him.
You know?

1734
01:17:17,875 --> 01:17:19,875
I'm the one who really won."

1735
01:17:20,625 --> 01:17:22,208
[Assael] There were a lot
of people

1736
01:17:22,291 --> 01:17:23,917
who didn't want the curtain
lifted

1737
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,125
on what happened
in his second fight with Ali.

1738
01:17:25,208 --> 01:17:28,208
There were a lot of people
who had an invested interest

1739
01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:29,750
in shutting Sonny up.

1740
01:17:31,125 --> 01:17:34,667
Around that time, people saw
Sonny and Ash fighting.

1741
01:17:34,750 --> 01:17:36,625
Ash had to be careful.

1742
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:39,875
There are FBI memos that call
Ash the linchpin between

1743
01:17:39,959 --> 01:17:43,709
corruption and boxing--
the mob and boxing.

1744
01:17:43,792 --> 01:17:46,166
I mean, the feds were actively
going after Ash.

1745
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:48,583
♪♪♪

1746
01:17:48,667 --> 01:17:52,083
[Gentry] My father was always
concerned about

1747
01:17:52,166 --> 01:17:53,208
his associations.

1748
01:17:53,291 --> 01:17:56,083
And I'm sure my father
didn't want to be around him

1749
01:17:56,166 --> 01:17:57,083
at the time.

1750
01:17:57,166 --> 01:17:59,333
♪♪♪

1751
01:17:59,417 --> 01:18:01,333
[Assael] Ash didn't want
anything to do with Sonny,

1752
01:18:01,417 --> 01:18:02,750
but remember, a lot of people
didn't want to have anything

1753
01:18:02,834 --> 01:18:04,750
to do with Sonny
at that point.

1754
01:18:04,834 --> 01:18:06,709
Increasingly even including
Geraldine who was scared about

1755
01:18:06,792 --> 01:18:09,917
how far off the edge
he was going.

1756
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,000
He was getting into cocaine
more and more.

1757
01:18:11,083 --> 01:18:14,125
He was getting into everything
more and more.

1758
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:17,208
And he didn't have anything
to anchor him anymore.

1759
01:18:17,291 --> 01:18:20,917
♪♪♪

1760
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,709
It was about late 1970,
and my dad and Sonny had

1761
01:18:24,792 --> 01:18:26,417
a falling out somehow.

1762
01:18:26,500 --> 01:18:28,000
He said, "Look, I don't want
Sonny coming around

1763
01:18:28,083 --> 01:18:29,250
and we're not
seeing him anymore.

1764
01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:30,834
Don't go over there."

1765
01:18:30,917 --> 01:18:33,417
And so he had
to go out of town,

1766
01:18:33,500 --> 01:18:37,417
and then Sonny came over
the next night.

1767
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:39,542
He just went right by me,
pushed me out of the way,

1768
01:18:39,625 --> 01:18:41,709
went into my dad's room,
and I could hear a lot

1769
01:18:41,792 --> 01:18:44,208
of things banging around
in there.

1770
01:18:44,291 --> 01:18:45,792
He was opening drawers,
looking through stuff.

1771
01:18:45,875 --> 01:18:47,625
Uh, I don't know
if he found anything,

1772
01:18:47,709 --> 01:18:48,959
but after a while he just left.

1773
01:18:50,875 --> 01:18:52,291
My dad came back
a couple of days later

1774
01:18:52,375 --> 01:18:55,667
and I told him what happened,
and he was really pissed, man.

1775
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:57,458
He said, "Mark,
I have to tell you.

1776
01:18:57,542 --> 01:18:59,041
I have to stress this.

1777
01:18:59,125 --> 01:19:00,000
Do not go over
to Sonny's house anymore.

1778
01:19:00,083 --> 01:19:02,667
His days are numbered.
I'm telling you."

1779
01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:04,125
That's the way he said it.

1780
01:19:04,208 --> 01:19:09,291
♪♪♪

1781
01:19:17,250 --> 01:19:19,125
[Izenberg] I'm in Vegas
for another fight.

1782
01:19:19,208 --> 01:19:21,625
And I walk up to the Stardust

1783
01:19:21,709 --> 01:19:24,333
and I see Sonny putting a tip

1784
01:19:24,417 --> 01:19:27,208
down on the table
and all these dirty dishes.

1785
01:19:27,291 --> 01:19:29,166
So I go in and Sonny says,
"Hey, how you been?

1786
01:19:29,250 --> 01:19:30,250
How you doing?"

1787
01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:31,125
I said, "Fine, how are you?"

1788
01:19:31,208 --> 01:19:33,000
"Good," He said.
"Did you eat yet?"

1789
01:19:33,083 --> 01:19:35,333
And I said, "No."

1790
01:19:35,417 --> 01:19:36,792
And he said, "I didn't eat,
either.

1791
01:19:36,875 --> 01:19:38,959
Let's have breakfast."

1792
01:19:39,041 --> 01:19:42,750
That showed me how lonely
at that point of his life

1793
01:19:42,834 --> 01:19:44,792
Sonny Liston was.

1794
01:19:46,417 --> 01:19:49,583
And actually, probably was
the last time we ever spoke.

1795
01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:53,500
♪♪♪

1796
01:19:53,583 --> 01:19:56,041
[Assael] December, 1970.

1797
01:19:56,125 --> 01:19:58,583
Sonny's getting even more
out of control.

1798
01:19:58,667 --> 01:20:01,333
♪♪♪

1799
01:20:01,417 --> 01:20:04,083
Geraldine goes to visit her
family in St. Louis.

1800
01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:07,709
It's the last time
she sees him alive.

1801
01:20:07,792 --> 01:20:11,792
♪♪♪

1802
01:20:11,875 --> 01:20:14,875
Geraldine comes home
from vacation.

1803
01:20:14,959 --> 01:20:17,375
♪♪♪

1804
01:20:17,458 --> 01:20:19,750
Smells something.
Doesn't know what it is.

1805
01:20:21,959 --> 01:20:24,041
Goes from one room to another.
Follows the smell

1806
01:20:24,125 --> 01:20:24,500
up to their bedroom...

1807
01:20:24,583 --> 01:20:28,667
♪♪♪

1808
01:20:28,750 --> 01:20:31,583
...where she finds her husband
slumped backwards

1809
01:20:31,667 --> 01:20:34,000
and in advanced state
of decomposition.

1810
01:20:34,083 --> 01:20:39,000
♪♪♪

1811
01:20:39,083 --> 01:20:39,875
She races out of the house

1812
01:20:39,959 --> 01:20:43,709
and to the nearby home
of a friend.

1813
01:20:44,834 --> 01:20:47,500
They come back to the house
at around nine.

1814
01:20:47,583 --> 01:20:52,959
♪♪♪

1815
01:20:53,041 --> 01:20:54,750
It's not until midnight
they make

1816
01:20:54,834 --> 01:20:56,709
the first call
to the police.

1817
01:20:56,792 --> 01:21:01,917
♪♪♪

1818
01:21:05,417 --> 01:21:06,750
[Gandy] There was sheriff's
deputies

1819
01:21:06,834 --> 01:21:08,083
running over the place
like ants.

1820
01:21:08,166 --> 01:21:11,083
They were everywhere.

1821
01:21:11,166 --> 01:21:13,750
It was gruesome.

1822
01:21:13,834 --> 01:21:16,083
He had obviously been dead
for four or five days,

1823
01:21:16,166 --> 01:21:18,917
'cause he was literally full
of methane gas.

1824
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,291
It was real bad.

1825
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:22,000
♪♪♪

1826
01:21:22,083 --> 01:21:24,291
I don't really know how
to explain it.

1827
01:21:24,375 --> 01:21:27,250
Uh, here one of your childhood
heroes

1828
01:21:27,333 --> 01:21:30,333
laying there bloated, you know.

1829
01:21:30,417 --> 01:21:33,458
And I just thought it was
a terrible disrespectful way

1830
01:21:33,542 --> 01:21:36,625
for him to go
and not be found, that's all.

1831
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:39,917
I just, uh--
It was startling.

1832
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,792
♪♪♪

1833
01:21:40,875 --> 01:21:43,291
Mmm.

1834
01:21:43,375 --> 01:21:46,083
How he died.

1835
01:21:46,166 --> 01:21:47,625
He died alone.
I just kept thinking he was

1836
01:21:47,709 --> 01:21:49,667
by himself, you know?

1837
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:51,250
And what happened to him?

1838
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:52,834
I just always wonder
what happened.

1839
01:21:52,917 --> 01:21:56,458
Sonny Liston, the fighter
that Muhammad Ali

1840
01:21:56,542 --> 01:21:59,333
used to call the big ugly bear
was found dead today

1841
01:21:59,417 --> 01:22:00,583
in his home in Las Vegas,
Nevada.

1842
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:02,792
He had been dead about a week
before his wife returning

1843
01:22:02,875 --> 01:22:05,166
from a trip found the body.

1844
01:22:05,250 --> 01:22:07,625
Investigators say there was no
sign of foul play,

1845
01:22:07,709 --> 01:22:09,500
but they found some substances
they think may be drugs.

1846
01:22:09,583 --> 01:22:12,375
♪♪♪

1847
01:22:12,458 --> 01:22:16,625
[Collins] Geraldine not calling
the police until three hours

1848
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:20,500
after finding Sonny's body
is strange.

1849
01:22:20,583 --> 01:22:22,250
There are a lot of theories.

1850
01:22:22,333 --> 01:22:25,250
Um, one was that there was
quite a stash of heroin

1851
01:22:25,333 --> 01:22:28,291
at Sonny's house and they
needed to get it out of there.

1852
01:22:29,375 --> 01:22:30,166
[Gandy] But the police had
found

1853
01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:34,542
a balloon of heroin
downstairs.

1854
01:22:35,917 --> 01:22:38,875
It seemed strange that she
wouldn't have disposed of it

1855
01:22:38,959 --> 01:22:41,375
to save Sonny's reputation,
if nothing else.

1856
01:22:41,458 --> 01:22:45,291
I don't know where she went
or who she talked to or what,

1857
01:22:45,375 --> 01:22:47,542
but that seems
very strange to me.

1858
01:22:47,625 --> 01:22:52,625
♪♪♪

1859
01:22:53,291 --> 01:22:56,458
[Roberts] An athlete dies
at a young age.

1860
01:22:56,542 --> 01:22:59,375
Why?

1861
01:22:59,458 --> 01:23:02,375
There's some heroin
found in his system.

1862
01:23:02,458 --> 01:23:04,375
Now the question is,
did Sonny take drugs?

1863
01:23:04,458 --> 01:23:09,709
There are innumerous friends
of Sonny that would have come

1864
01:23:09,792 --> 01:23:11,041
forward and did come forward
and said,

1865
01:23:11,125 --> 01:23:13,792
"He would never have shot
heroin."

1866
01:23:13,875 --> 01:23:17,208
He was petrified of needles.

1867
01:23:17,291 --> 01:23:20,208
♪ dramatic music ♪

1868
01:23:20,291 --> 01:23:22,750
♪♪♪

1869
01:23:22,834 --> 01:23:24,083
Well, if there's heroin
in his system,

1870
01:23:24,166 --> 01:23:27,417
did somebody else shoot him
full of heroin?

1871
01:23:27,500 --> 01:23:31,750
♪♪♪

1872
01:23:32,291 --> 01:23:35,667
Now we get in, well,
if somebody else did,

1873
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:36,875
was it murder?

1874
01:23:36,959 --> 01:23:38,750
♪♪♪

1875
01:23:38,834 --> 01:23:41,291
If it was murder, why did they
murder Sonny Liston?

1876
01:23:42,417 --> 01:23:45,250
[Farrell] Depending on what
your point of view is

1877
01:23:45,333 --> 01:23:48,417
and what your agenda is,
that will determine

1878
01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:50,250
how you feel he was killed.

1879
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:54,375
♪♪♪

1880
01:23:54,458 --> 01:23:57,250
I've been told that Liston
was killed because

1881
01:23:57,333 --> 01:24:00,083
of the Wepner fight.

1882
01:24:00,166 --> 01:24:03,166
The mob lost a lot of money,
and I know that it's something

1883
01:24:03,250 --> 01:24:06,208
that everybody involved
would have done.

1884
01:24:06,291 --> 01:24:08,583
Another person who wanted
to see him dead was Red Rodney,

1885
01:24:08,667 --> 01:24:09,667
who was a cautious criminal.

1886
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:11,959
The last thing he wanted
to see was Sonny Liston

1887
01:24:12,041 --> 01:24:13,959
shooting his mouth off
about the drug gang

1888
01:24:14,041 --> 01:24:14,792
that he was running.

1889
01:24:14,875 --> 01:24:16,667
♪♪♪

1890
01:24:16,750 --> 01:24:18,792
[Rodney] I remembered that
my dad and Sonny had

1891
01:24:18,875 --> 01:24:20,959
a falling out somehow.

1892
01:24:21,041 --> 01:24:22,709
My dad was real pissed.

1893
01:24:22,792 --> 01:24:23,959
So, you know, I asked him,
I said,

1894
01:24:24,041 --> 01:24:25,250
"Did you have anything
to do with that?

1895
01:24:25,333 --> 01:24:26,625
Or do you know about that?"

1896
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:27,500
And he goes, "No."
That's that.

1897
01:24:27,583 --> 01:24:29,709
But he left town a couple
of days later

1898
01:24:29,792 --> 01:24:31,959
because he knew the cops
would be coming around.

1899
01:24:32,041 --> 01:24:34,041
But I don't think he had
anything to do with that.

1900
01:24:34,125 --> 01:24:35,083
I really don't.

1901
01:24:35,166 --> 01:24:36,542
♪♪♪

1902
01:24:36,625 --> 01:24:42,291
[Assael] There is a theory--
a extremely persuasive one.

1903
01:24:42,375 --> 01:24:45,166
A former police informant
walks into the Vegas Metro

1904
01:24:45,250 --> 01:24:48,125
Police Department with a story
about a hero cop

1905
01:24:48,208 --> 01:24:50,917
who broke bad.

1906
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,000
The very first thing
he said was,

1907
01:24:52,083 --> 01:24:55,333
"That cop killed Sonny Liston."

1908
01:24:55,417 --> 01:24:58,166
♪♪♪

1909
01:24:58,250 --> 01:25:02,458
This informant said Ash
Resnick wanted Sonny dead.

1910
01:25:02,542 --> 01:25:05,166
Ash hired the cop
to kill Sonny Liston.

1911
01:25:05,250 --> 01:25:08,500
The more he talks,
the more detail he gives.

1912
01:25:08,583 --> 01:25:10,792
♪♪♪

1913
01:25:10,875 --> 01:25:12,750
The investigators didn't want
to believe him

1914
01:25:12,834 --> 01:25:15,667
because it was the guy that
they all considered a hero cop.

1915
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:18,000
It was Larry Gandy.

1916
01:25:18,083 --> 01:25:20,959
♪♪♪

1917
01:25:21,041 --> 01:25:23,166
Killing people really does
something to you.

1918
01:25:23,250 --> 01:25:24,333
And it scars you for life.

1919
01:25:24,417 --> 01:25:28,000
It made me sick that somebody
would accuse me

1920
01:25:28,083 --> 01:25:30,792
of killing somebody for hire.

1921
01:25:30,875 --> 01:25:33,417
I am not a contract killer.

1922
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:33,875
And never would be.

1923
01:25:33,959 --> 01:25:36,291
♪♪♪

1924
01:25:36,375 --> 01:25:39,917
I sought out Larry Gandy
who was the man who was

1925
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,667
supposedly the hitman
on my father's behalf.

1926
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:45,458
And he said he'd
never met my father.

1927
01:25:45,542 --> 01:25:49,792
I don't believe that my father
was capable of hurting anyone.

1928
01:25:49,875 --> 01:25:53,250
Especially someone he revered
as much as he loved Sonny.

1929
01:25:53,834 --> 01:25:56,792
[Gandy] I think Sonny Liston
was killed because of the raid

1930
01:25:56,875 --> 01:26:00,458
that went bad
on Earl Cage's house.

1931
01:26:00,542 --> 01:26:03,375
He had motive, opportunity,
and means.

1932
01:26:03,458 --> 01:26:04,917
♪♪♪

1933
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,458
Rumor, rumor, rumor,
story, story, story.

1934
01:26:11,458 --> 01:26:13,417
That's the story
of Sonny's life.

1935
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:17,250
♪♪♪

1936
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:19,917
[Assael] The medical examiner
just figured natural causes

1937
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,542
was the easiest way
to just end it.

1938
01:26:22,625 --> 01:26:24,041
And that's what happened.

1939
01:26:24,125 --> 01:26:25,208
There was no
homicide investigation.

1940
01:26:25,291 --> 01:26:26,875
Sonny's death
was Sonny's death.

1941
01:26:26,959 --> 01:26:28,333
He was given a funeral,
a send-off,

1942
01:26:28,417 --> 01:26:32,917
with a procession
up the Las Vegas strip.

1943
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,750
Dead and buried.

1944
01:26:34,834 --> 01:26:40,000
♪♪♪

1945
01:26:47,834 --> 01:26:49,417
I don't know.

1946
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:52,792
I really don't know whether
Sonny, um, overdosed

1947
01:26:52,875 --> 01:26:53,875
or was murdered.

1948
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,125
It's much easier to deal

1949
01:26:56,208 --> 01:27:00,458
with the idea that there were,

1950
01:27:00,542 --> 01:27:02,959
you know, powerful forces

1951
01:27:03,041 --> 01:27:06,750
that finally did in

1952
01:27:06,834 --> 01:27:09,208
this powerful man.

1953
01:27:09,291 --> 01:27:11,875
I think that's easier
than just saying,

1954
01:27:11,959 --> 01:27:13,959
"Hey, you know, we're--
we're all complicit

1955
01:27:14,041 --> 01:27:17,458
in the Sonny Liston story."

1956
01:27:17,542 --> 01:27:22,500
♪♪♪

1957
01:27:24,208 --> 01:27:26,417
[Jeffries] I think there's
enough

1958
01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:28,750
culpability to go around.

1959
01:27:28,834 --> 01:27:31,500
♪♪♪

1960
01:27:31,583 --> 01:27:34,917
America is responsible,
not just white America

1961
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,667
but black America as a whole
for really shaping the life

1962
01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:41,875
and determining to a certain
extent the fortune and fate

1963
01:27:41,959 --> 01:27:42,834
of Sonny Liston.

1964
01:27:42,917 --> 01:27:45,667
♪♪♪

1965
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:47,375
[Izenberg] And the people on
the sidelines can say,

1966
01:27:47,458 --> 01:27:49,667
"Well, he should have changed
after this.

1967
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:50,750
He should have changed."

1968
01:27:50,834 --> 01:27:53,000
Nobody tried to hitch me
up to a mule in Arkansas

1969
01:27:53,083 --> 01:27:54,750
when I was 11 years old.

1970
01:27:54,834 --> 01:27:56,041
Nobody had me hitchhike
all the way to St. Louis

1971
01:27:56,125 --> 01:27:58,208
to meet my sister and mother

1972
01:27:58,291 --> 01:27:59,875
who I hadn't seen
in three years.

1973
01:28:01,375 --> 01:28:04,917
And nobody said, "How else
can I make a living?"

1974
01:28:06,041 --> 01:28:09,000
So this is who he was,
and this is what he was.

1975
01:28:09,083 --> 01:28:10,417
♪♪♪

1976
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:12,375
[Jeffries] I don't think
it's a wonder

1977
01:28:12,458 --> 01:28:14,333
that he died when he did.

1978
01:28:14,417 --> 01:28:16,834
I think it's a wonder
that he didn't die earlier.

1979
01:28:16,917 --> 01:28:19,458
I don't think it's a wonder
that he didn't hold on

1980
01:28:19,542 --> 01:28:23,041
to the championship longer
than he did.

1981
01:28:23,125 --> 01:28:24,291
I think it's a wonder
that he made it

1982
01:28:24,375 --> 01:28:26,834
that far to hold it at all.

1983
01:28:26,917 --> 01:28:29,709
♪♪♪

1984
01:28:29,792 --> 01:28:32,500
[Majeski] Sonny Liston's fate
was sealed in the womb.

1985
01:28:32,583 --> 01:28:35,542
He reached the stars,
and when he grabbed the star,

1986
01:28:35,625 --> 01:28:36,583
it burnt him up.

1987
01:28:36,667 --> 01:28:40,166
There was nothing left
in Liston to give.

1988
01:28:40,250 --> 01:28:42,333
♪♪♪

1989
01:28:42,417 --> 01:28:45,208
[Tyson] Sonny Liston should be
remembered as a great fighter.

1990
01:28:45,291 --> 01:28:47,834
Once he's champ,
he's always champ.

1991
01:28:47,917 --> 01:28:49,750
That's always gonna be
his identity.

1992
01:28:49,834 --> 01:28:51,709
People will always
call him champ.

1993
01:28:51,792 --> 01:28:54,959
♪♪♪

1994
01:28:55,041 --> 01:28:56,709
[Reddish Jr.] Charles Sonny
Liston.

1995
01:28:56,792 --> 01:28:58,667
♪♪♪

1996
01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:00,625
He was a man amongst men.

1997
01:29:00,709 --> 01:29:03,083
♪♪♪

1998
01:29:03,166 --> 01:29:04,583
And that's the story.

1999
01:29:04,667 --> 01:29:06,834
♪♪♪

2000
01:29:06,917 --> 01:29:11,583
I tell the world, "I'm glad he
came through my way one time."

2001
01:29:13,125 --> 01:29:18,250
♪♪♪

