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So?

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This is the only alligator.

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Four minutes past. We walk in one minute.
He was clear on that.

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He's coming.

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No, he's too young to
have that kind of access.

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Uh, what time does
the restaurant open?

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Noon. But the food's
a little too spicy.

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This way.

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MAN: Excuse me.
Uh-huh.

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MAN: Thank you.

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(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)

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Right here.

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(SIGHS) It's, uh, really great
to finally meet you guys.

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So, first thing, can I get your
cell phones, please?

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Thank you.

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We want Laura to be
the only one recording, right?

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As discussed? Thank you.

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I actually bought this.
It blocks UHF frequencies.

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(CAMERA BEEPS)

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You've been
photographed before, right?

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Yeah, it's been a while since anybody
took a photo of me, so... (LAUGHS)

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LAURA: Try thinking of
this as your friend.

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(BREATHES DEEPLY)

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Take your time.

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(INHALES DEEPLY) Um...

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Can you start by telling us
why you did what you did

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and, uh, how you gained access

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to such a vast
amount of information,

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all of which I read
on the plane

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and...
Glenn.

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Uh, how about we just start
with your name? Okay?

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(INHALES DEEPLY)

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My name is
Edward Joseph Snowden.

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I'm 29 years old.

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I work as a private
contractor for the NSA.

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I've also worked as
a private contractor

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for the CIA and directly
for the Agency.

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I've worked in various jobs
in the intelligence industry

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for the last nine years.

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I've been a systems engineer, uh,
been a solutions consultant...

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Uh...
(ALL CALLING CADENCE)

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SNOWDEN: And a senior advisor for
the Central Intelligence Agency.

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RECRUIT: Rangers...
DRILL SERGEANT: Rangers...

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RECRUITS: Rangers...
RECRUIT: Rangers...

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DRILL SERGEANT: So you
wanna be Special Forces?

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RECRUITS: Sir, yes, sir!

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I think Special Forces
would be ashamed

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to call you soldiers.
Am I right?

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RECRUITS: Sir, no, sir!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Your left.
Your left, right. Your left.

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DRILL SERGEANT: (SINGING)
Went from driving Cadillacs

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RECRUITS:
Went from driving Cadillacs

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DRILL SERGEANT:
To driving convoys in Iraq

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RECRUITS:
To driving convoys in Iraq

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TRAINER: Move it, soldier!

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(RECRUITS GRUNTING, PANTING)

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TRAINER: Go! Go!
Move now!

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TRAINERS: Move!
You better get going!

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Pick it up,
you waste of space!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Let's move!

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TRAINER: Come on, soldier! Go!

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Come on, darling!

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(SHOUTING) Snowden?
What the hell are you doing?

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Nothing, sir!

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Where is your fucking heart?
Right here, sir!

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I want you to reach way down in
that pathetic excuse of a chest,

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and you rip it out.

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You find your heart,
and then you get

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your broke ass on my tower!
You got that?

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Sir, yes, sir!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Now get
the fuck out of my face!

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I need you on my tower,
gentlemen! Let's move!

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TRAINER: Move! Move! Let's go!

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(BANGING ON DOOR) DRILL SERGEANT:
(SHOUTING) Rise and shine, maggots!

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Get your hands off your dicks,
and get the fuck out of my barracks!

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You guys got one minute!

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Fall out! Move, move, move!

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Get the hell out here!
Get the hell out of my barracks!

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(LOUD THUD)
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DRILL SERGEANT: Move it!
Keep moving!

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Let's go!
All right, gentlemen.

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(RECRUITS GRUNTING)

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DRILL SERGEANT: Harrison?
RECRUIT: Here!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Carson?
RECRUIT: Here!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Ramirez?
RECRUIT: Here!

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(SHOUTS) Fuck!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Pierce?
RECRUIT: Here!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Coulson?
Help!

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DRILL SERGEANT: Snowden!

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Snowden!
Where the fuck is Snowden?

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Help! (SIGHS)

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DOCTOR: You know, you've been walking
around on two broken legs...

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Best I can tell, for weeks.

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Now this is what happens when
you put a 80-pound rucksack

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on a 150-pound body.

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You get these little stress
fractures and... (GROANS)

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Easy.
Sorry.

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They build up
in your tibias.

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You don't get off of 'em,
and eventually they just bust.

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Now, you're gonna be
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and then I'd count on
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on the crutches.

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SNOWDEN: Okay,
and then when do I go back?

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Son, you ever again
land on those legs of yours,

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airborne or not, those
bones will turn to powder.

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I'm gonna authorize
an administrative discharge.

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(SIGHS)

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DOCTOR: Plenty of other ways
to serve your country.

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(MESSAGE ALERT)

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(CHUCKLES)

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POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR: Have you ever committed
a crime for which you weren't caught?

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SNOWDEN: No.

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POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Have you ever cheated on an exam?

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SNOWDEN: No.

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Do you believe
the United States

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is the greatest
country in the world?

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Yes.

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INTERVIEWER: Why do you
want to join the CIA?

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PSYCHOLOGIST: How would you
explain the Internet to a child?

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INTERVIEWER: Granddad retired as
an admiral and joined the FBI.

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Dad's in the Coast Guard,
30-year man.

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PSYCHOLOGIST: What has been the
most important day in your life?

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9/11.

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We thought my grandfather
was inside the Pentagon.

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Uh, turned out he was
off-site that day.

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INTERVIEWER: You wanted
to be Special Forces?

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Yes, sir. Yeah, I love their motto.
De oppresso liber.

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INTERVIEWER: Is that what you hope to do
with us? Free people from oppression?

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I'd like to help my country
make a difference in the world.

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Uh, the Internet
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that has the power

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to let everyone in the world
understand each other.

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Missed a perfect score on the
ASVAB test by a single question.

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Crushed the language
learning test.

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Some Mandarin,
some Japanese.

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And no high school diploma.

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So why did you stop
attending high school?

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I had to make money. My parents
were divorcing at the time.

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Any other influences?

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I'd say Joseph Campbell,

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Star Wars,
Thoreau, Ayn Rand...

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One man can stop
the motor of the world.

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Atlas Shrugged.
Yes, sir. I believe that.

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Let's try again.

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Why do you want
to join the CIA?

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Uh...

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Well, frankly, sir,

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it sounds really cool to have
top security clearance.

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(CHUCKLES)

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(INHALES DEEPLY)
It's not enough.

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(EXHALES DEEPLY)

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Ordinarily. But these
are not ordinary times.

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Bombs won't stop terrorism,
brains will,

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and we don't have
nearly enough of those.

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I'm gonna give you
a shot, Snowden.

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Thank you, sir. Thank you very much.
You won't regret this.

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My name's Corbin O'Brian.

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I have many titles,
among them Senior Instructor.

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You'll be joining
my class at The Hill.

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Stop the vehicle.

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Shut off the engine.

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I need to see your ID.

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(BARKING)

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All right. Using your left hand only,
pop the trunk.

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(LOCK OPENING)

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SECURITY GUARD: Now place
your hands

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through the steering wheel
on the dashboard.

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Through the steering wheel.

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On the dashboard.
Do not exit the vehicle.

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SECURITY GUARD 2:
Right here. Right here.

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Excuse me.

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You'll be looking
for Corbin's class.

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End of the hall, keep going
through the second set of doors.

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Thank you.
Is that an Enigma?

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No.
Enigma was broken.

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This is the follow up,
the Sigaba. Never broken.

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Cold War's greatest
encryption machine.

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Tides of history ticked with
this motor and these rotors.

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One day everyone's gonna want
a machine like this. Wow!

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I always wanted to learn cryptography.
What's this one?

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The Hot Line.

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First direct link between
Washington and Moscow.

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Probably
prevented World War III.

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You got a name? How do I
know you're not the enemy?

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Oh, sorry. Uh,
Snowden. Ed Snowden.

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Hank Forrester.
Where'd you study, Snowden?

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Mostly I'm,
uh, self-taught.

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You can tell me if you're busy,
but is that a Cray-1?

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Why, yes. Yes, it is.

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The first supercomputer.

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You can get all of
this on a cell phone now.

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Yeah. So you're,
um, an engineer?

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Am I an engineer?
Instructor and counselor, too.

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I'm supposed to keep
an eye on you CTs,

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make sure you don't buckle
under the pressure.

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Turn to drugs and booze.

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Well, you won't have that problem with me.
I don't drink or do drugs.

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What is your sin
of choice?

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Uh, computers.

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Well, then, Snowden, you've come
to the right little whorehouse.

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O'BRIAN: The front lines in
the global war on terror

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are not in Iraq
or Afghanistan.

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They're here. In London,

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Berlin,
(WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)

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Istanbul...

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Any server,
any connection...

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The modern battlefield

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is everywhere.

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Which means

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you don't have to sit in the ditch
eating MREs or dodging mortar fire,

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it means that if there is another
9/11, it'll be your fault.

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Just as the last one
was my generation's.

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Believe me, you do not want
to live with that burden.

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We're gonna start
with an aptitude test.

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(KEYBOARDS CLACKING)

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O'BRIAN: Each of you is gonna build
a covert communications network

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in your home city,

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you're gonna deploy it,
back up your site, destroy it,

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and restore it again.

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The point of this
exercise is to keep

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your infrastructure up
and running securely.

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The average test
time is five hours.

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If you take more than eight,
you will fail.

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SNOWDEN: Mr. O'Brian?

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I'm done, sir.

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You don't have to tell me
when you've completed a stage.

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No, I finished
the whole thing.

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It's been 40 minutes.

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Thirty-eight.

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What?

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Thirty-eight minutes.

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Okay. Let's see
where you screwed up.

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(KEYBOARDS CLACKING)

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(SYSTEM BEEPING)

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(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

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(COMPUTING)
(SYSTEM BEEPING)

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You didn't say we had
to do it in order, sir.

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So I, uh, broke
the sequence to save time,

246
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,073
and I automated the backup process
to run as I built the site.

247
00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,034
Eyes on screens.

248
00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,509
Sir?

249
00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,472
What should I do now?

250
00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,913
Whatever you want.

251
00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,156
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
(MAN LAUGHING)

252
00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,039
(CAMERA CLICKS)

253
00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,911
Hey.
Hi.

254
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,197
Finally. (LAUGHS)
Yeah.

255
00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,470
Um, sorry.

256
00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,232
Do you, um,
want anything?

257
00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,039
No. Let's go
for a walk.

258
00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,792
You could use some sun.
(LAUGHS)

259
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,074
(LAUGHS) Yeah.
You mentioned that earlier.

260
00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,469
Sorry it took me
this long. I just...

261
00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,759
You didn't want to see me on crutches.
I was not so agile.

262
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,712
And then this
new job hit. So...

263
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,234
Oh, yeah, what was it
you were doing again?

264
00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,231
I'm doing analysis for
the State Department.

265
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,356
Right. Congratulations.
Thanks.

266
00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,873
You're welcome.

267
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,678
Hey, can you
do me a favor

268
00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,990
and, um, point in the direction
of the State Department?

269
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,954
Uh...

270
00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,593
Yeah, it's that way.
(CAMERA CLICKS)

271
00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,390
Where? Are you sure?
(CAMERA CLICKS)

272
00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,273
I mean, I'm not that great
at orienting myself...

273
00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:21,590
Not that great
at lying, either.

274
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,274
You're gonna have to work on
both if you wanna be a spy.

275
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,479
Where I came from,
everyone's parents

276
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,630
worked for
the "State Department."

277
00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,678
Plus, every time you visited
my website this week,

278
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,514
which was quite often,
it was from an IP in Virginia.

279
00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,756
You know how to run an IP trace?
Yeah.

280
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,069
I'm pretty sure that the State
Department has no offices in Virginia.

281
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,953
(CHUCKLES)
Huh?

282
00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,469
(CAMERA CLICKS)

283
00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,873
All right,
let's see you strut it.

284
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,514
Let's see what?

285
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,216
Let's see you strut it. Show
me what you got, you know.

286
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,912
Your best catwalk.

287
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,435
Don't be shy.

288
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,795
Come on. You got this.
Uh... All right.

289
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,114
(CAMERA CLICKING)

290
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,719
(BOTH LAUGHING)

291
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,635
I don't know. (LAUGHS)

292
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,256
PROTESTORS: (CHANTING)
Drop Bush, not bombs!

293
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,989
Drop Bush, not bombs!

294
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,360
Excuse me. Would you mind
signing our petition, please?

295
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,759
Yes, absolutely.

296
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,758
Thank you.
Thank you so much. Sir?

297
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,909
No, thank you.

298
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,216
MALE ACTIVIST: Excuse me, ma'am.
Would you like to sign?

299
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,976
I actually just signed. Yeah.
Okay. Thank you very much.

300
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000
Thank you.

301
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,516
Too much independent
spirit for you?

302
00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,829
Uh, no, I just don't really
like bashing my country.

303
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,714
It's my country too, and right
now it has blood on its hands.

304
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,119
(SIGHS)

305
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,112
Sorry, I just... I have friends
who are over there right now.

306
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,616
I'm not talking
about the troops.

307
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,520
I'm talking about the moron
sending them to war.

308
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,393
(LAUGHS) Moron? You mean
our Commander-in-Chief?

309
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,869
Yeah, whatever you want to call him.
He's still wrong.

310
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,736
How do you know he's wrong?
You're just lashing out.

311
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,548
No, I'm not lashing out. I'm
questioning our government.

312
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,816
That's what we do
in this country.

313
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,195
That is the principle
that we were founded on.

314
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,432
Okay, but how about
questioning the liberal media?

315
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,599
I mean, you're just buying
into what one side is saying.

316
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,039
(LAUGHS) Maybe I am,
'cause my side is right.

317
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720
See, that's funny, 'cause my side's right.
Oh, really?

318
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,075
Yeah.
Uh...(LAUGHS)

319
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,190
Why is it smart conservatives
always make me so mad?

320
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,589
Probably because you don't
like hearing the truth.

321
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,034
You are a very frustrating
individual, you know that?

322
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,950
How am I going
to make you see?

323
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,270
I can see just fine,
thank you.

324
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,794
(CHUCKLES)

325
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,148
That help at all?

326
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,034
Nope. No, that did
nothing for me.

327
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,348
Tastes like liberal.

328
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,273
(LAUGHS)
It's not my thing.

329
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,316
(O'BRIAN READING)

330
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,115
Is it constitutional
to bypass the Courts?

331
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,794
No. The Fourth Amendment
prevents searches

332
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,313
and seizures
without a warrant.

333
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,915
That's absolutely right,
Rio. Which means

334
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,558
your Commander-in-Chief, the
President of the United States,

335
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,471
is breaking the law.

336
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,477
That is what you're saying,
isn't it, Rio?

337
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,509
Well, I guess it depends
on who you talk to.

338
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,431
O'BRIAN: And if you talk
to journalists?

339
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,948
Who, more often than not,
don't have the full picture,

340
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,476
or neglect to report it,
you only get a partial truth.

341
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,913
Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act.

342
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,513
The FISA Court.

343
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,272
We do respect the Fourth
Amendment in this country,

344
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,976
and we issue warrants
based on suspicion.

345
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,358
But sometimes these warrants have
to be issued by secret courts,

346
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,079
so we don't alert
the suspects we're spying on.

347
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,351
And these court proceedings
are classified,

348
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,192
which means, surprise...

349
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,438
They don't appear in papers
such as The New York Times.

350
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,256
SNOWDEN:
Did you see my test scores?

351
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,511
HANK: Yes. Top of my class.
Like you. What, here?

352
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,672
NSA. They liked me plenty.

353
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,038
They put me on all the best teams.
Soviet frontier. Desert Storm.

354
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,550
And then
the big new challenge,

355
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,156
find the terrorist in the Internet
haystack. Hell of a haystack.

356
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,673
Hundreds of
terabytes a minute.

357
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,672
I mean, it would take you 400
years to read the emails.

358
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,796
Then you have
to analyze them.

359
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,830
Sometimes, the more you
look, the less you see.

360
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,816
What'd you come up with?
HANK: Something beautiful.

361
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,229
In house.
For $3 million.

362
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,393
A program that could differentiate
between foreign and domestic,

363
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,109
encrypt every signal we weren't
targeting, so it would remain private.

364
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,430
It was elegant, streamlined.

365
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,351
It was the best
work I ever did.

366
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,069
Have a seat.

367
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,948
What was it called?

368
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,119
Ed, rising to
the top in our world

369
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,556
can sometimes
be hard on a man.

370
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,997
I mean... You think
you're making strides,

371
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,759
you think you're
taking the initiative.

372
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,478
And then, the next minute, they
grind your work out of existence.

373
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,031
They didn't use it?
Why not?

374
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,509
HANK: Well,
they never tell you why.

375
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,634
Two years later,
after 9/11,

376
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,034
a friend of mine
tells me about

377
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:50,918
this new contractor
program they're using.

378
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,434
Costs $4 billion
to deploy.

379
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,469
Modeled after mine but with
no filters, no automation.

380
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,189
Ingested everything.
They were drowning in data.

381
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,918
It was a fucking disaster.

382
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,878
Okay, but there must have been
some bigger picture, right?

383
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,270
I mean, spending that kind of money?
They're not stupid.

384
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:13,999
You would think intelligence
would count for something

385
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,951
in the intelligence
business.

386
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,436
Right. But you wanna
know what it really is?

387
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,715
What really sets
the agenda?

388
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,111
Military industrial
happiness management.

389
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,031
You keep the coffers
open in Congress,

390
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,271
you keep the money flowing
to the contractors.

391
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:37,069
Efficiency, results?
They go out the window.

392
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,514
Not to mention...
All right.

393
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,115
Well, you're late
for class.

394
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,639
(BELL RINGING)

395
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,631
Okay. Thank you.

396
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,789
Can I take another one?
Sure.

397
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,400
Did you ever say
anything to anybody?

398
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,598
Yeah. I went to legal.
We filed complaints.

399
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,514
Now here I am,
tucked away, teaching you.

400
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,754
Maybe that's more important,
in the long run.

401
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,675
You're getting better.

402
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,516
My favorite spot
on campus.

403
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,599
You hunt, Ed?

404
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,073
SNOWDEN: Uh...

405
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,480
Did some skeet shooting
with my dad a few times,

406
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,312
but, no,
I never went hunting.

407
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,594
O'BRIAN:
We'll go one day.

408
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,908
SNOWDEN:
That'd be great.

409
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,952
Mr. O'Brian,
can I ask you a question?

410
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,792
How about just
calling me Corbin?

411
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,709
Okay. (LAUGHS)
Thank you, sir. Uh, Corbin.

412
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,196
I was talking with Hank
Forrester and I wanted to know,

413
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,159
are all of our SIGINT programs
specifically targeted?

414
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,708
Of course. What good would
they be if they weren't? Hmm?

415
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,559
(LAUGHS)
Yeah, I don't know.

416
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,671
You have a girlfriend, Ed?

417
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,518
Uh, nothing serious.

418
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,033
What's her name?
Lindsay.

419
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,155
Lindsay.

420
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,998
She going with you?

421
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,633
No, I wouldn't want
to put her in any danger.

422
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,789
Well, you won't have to.

423
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,276
We're not sending you
to the Middle East.

424
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,116
Sir, I'm your best student.
Doesn't that count for something?

425
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,397
In 20 years, Iraq will be a
hellhole nobody cares about.

426
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,516
Terrorism's
a short-term threat.

427
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,116
The real threats will come
from China, Russia, Iran,

428
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,038
and they'll come as
SQL injections and malware.

429
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,233
Without minds like yours, this country
will be torn apart in cyberspace.

430
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,473
I don't want to risk
losing you

431
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,319
for some horseshit war
over sand and oil.

432
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,837
Sir, I'm surprised
to hear you say that.

433
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,276
You don't have to agree with your
politicians to be a patriot.

434
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,713
(CELL PHONE RINGING)

435
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,788
Sir, where are you sending me?
Take a moment.

436
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,839
Enjoy the view.

437
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,920
Hey.

438
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,752
(SIRENS BLARING)

439
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,036
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

440
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,193
(STATIC)

441
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,119
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)

442
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,555
(DOOR OPENS)

443
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,834
GLENN: This is Laura.

444
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,480
Hello.

445
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,039
EWEN: Hello,
nice to meet you.

446
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,997
Hello, I'm Ewen MacAskill from the
Guardian. It's nice to meet you.

447
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,274
Nice to meet you, too.

448
00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,875
Um, if you don't mind, uh,
I'd like to record some of...

449
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,315
Uh... Cell phones go
in the microwave.

450
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,789
Dare I ask why?

451
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,314
We'll get to that.
After you ask your questions.

452
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,469
EWEN: Yeah, before...

453
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,696
Before we get on to the stories,
I need to know more about you.

454
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,111
Your career by Glenn's account
is very varied,

455
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,872
but the Guardian
needs evidence that...

456
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,997
Yeah. This is my diplomatic
passport for friendly countries,

457
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,957
my tourist passport
for everywhere else.

458
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,439
You can check
the visa stamps.

459
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,559
This is my NSA badge with Booz Allen,
my CIA badge with Dell,

460
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,712
and this is my DIA
instructor's badge.

461
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,712
This is a photo of me
with Michael Hayden,

462
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,713
who's a former head
of the NSA and the CIA.

463
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,155
When can you publish?

464
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,631
Okay, um, do you mind if I sit down?
No, please.

465
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,198
EWEN: Uh, Glenn says
you want to, uh...

466
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,237
You want to tell people
your identity.

467
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,176
How do you think your
government's going to react?

468
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,589
Well, they'll charge me
under the Espionage Act.

469
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,399
And they'll say I endangered
national security,

470
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,153
and they'll demonize me,
and my friends and family.

471
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,999
(INHALES DEEPLY)
And they'll throw me in jail.

472
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,116
That's the
best-case scenario.

473
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,514
And the worst?

474
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,795
Well, if I don't
have any media cover,

475
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,474
then I'll be rendered
by the CIA

476
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,915
and interrogated
outside of the law.

477
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,639
And they have a station
right up the street.

478
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,109
But how would they
know what you did?

479
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,749
Because I left a digital footprint in
my logs, so they'll figure it out.

480
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,796
I did not want
a manhunt.

481
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,030
I know what they would
do to my colleagues.

482
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,153
Look, Mr. MacAskill, uh,

483
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,835
this is not about money
or anything for me.

484
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,148
There's no hidden agenda.

485
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,028
I just wanted to get this data to
established journalists like yourselves,

486
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,350
so that you can present it
to the world,

487
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,955
and the people can decide
either I'm wrong

488
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,873
or there's something going on inside
the government that's really wrong.

489
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,715
So...

490
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,999
This one
is everything I have

491
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,992
on your British
intelligence agency, the GCHQ.

492
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,036
An encryption key
will follow.

493
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,714
You're gonna want your technical
people at the Guardian

494
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,040
to look through
that thoroughly.

495
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,991
There's a lot
of stuff there.

496
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,879
(INHALES DEEPLY)

497
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,513
Listen,
they're gonna investigate,

498
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,598
and they're gonna
figure out what I've done.

499
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,791
And then they're
gonna come for me.

500
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,438
And now that
we've made contact,

501
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,997
they're gonna come
for all of you, too.

502
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,754
Uh... Um...

503
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,920
Do you mind if I go
look in the microwave?

504
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,237
Ewen. I'm on with Stuart.

505
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,355
Hi, Ewen.

506
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,316
Hi, Stuart. Look,
I've got one thing to say.

507
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,909
The Guinness here is great.
JANINE: (OVER PHONE) Wonderful.

508
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,116
Oh, absolutely
the genuine article.

509
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,315
JANINE: (OVER PHONE) Good.

510
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,834
But shockingly different
from what you'd expect.

511
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,633
So... (CLEARS THROAT) Now we have the lawyers
to deal with. And no doubt the White House.

512
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,440
I got the go ahead.

513
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,794
That's great.
Oh, good.

514
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,696
Let's get started. We have
a lot to go through here,

515
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,039
and it's not easy reading.

516
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,917
LAURA: We can start
by showing him XKeyscore.

517
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,376
Good idea. Ed, can you bring it
up again and walk us through it?

518
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,469
Yeah.

519
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,229
(CAMERA BEEPS, WHIRRING)

520
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,231
Do we all get
under there now?

521
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,590
He's protecting his passwords.
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

522
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,875
Okay. So...

523
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,919
This was introduced

524
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,516
during my first deployment
at the CIA in Geneva.

525
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,715
EWEN: "XKeyscore."

526
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,599
What does that do?

527
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,753
It's like
a search interface.

528
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,072
What does it search for?

529
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,952
Anything you want.

530
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,997
EWEN: What was your
assignment in Geneva?

531
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,269
SNOWDEN: Well, I was assigned with
diplomatic cover to the UN mission

532
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,920
to maintain the CIA's
computer security network.

533
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,193
I spent almost two years
around CIA field officers.

534
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,990
I don't see a time
stamp on any of this.

535
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,639
We have
a confirmation on the GSS.

536
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,949
(PHONE RINGING)

537
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,674
SNOWDEN: I'm sorry, sir,
I don't understand.

538
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Sherman says you hacked
the Human Resources site.

539
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,237
Yeah, it's my job
to find flaws.

540
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,994
The security of the HR site
is not your problem.

541
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,638
You went outside
the wheelhouse.

542
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,154
Okay, but just to clarify,
I did not hack it,

543
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,709
I showed that it
could be hacked.

544
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,114
You told me
to find a patch.

545
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,349
You have that
in writing?

546
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,637
Yes, I do. Remember, I sent
you the proof of concept.

547
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,056
Doesn't matter
what you did, Snowden.

548
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Right or wrong, you need to let these
things be someone else's problem.

549
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,592
He's also put
a derog in your file.

550
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,079
Excuse me?
Let that be a lesson.

551
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,513
I don't want him
calling me again

552
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,318
about another
Ed Snowden moment.

553
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,799
Okay?

554
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,997
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

555
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,896
Why don't you take it easy
the rest of the day?

556
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,751
Go work on
the scrubbing pile.

557
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,352
That didn't look
like it went well.

558
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,719
Oh, hey, man. Uh, yeah. No, I just
got a derog for doing my job.

559
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,389
(CHUCKLES) Politics, man. The
culture of fear wins again.

560
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,875
I can't get anything done here.
Yeah.

561
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,949
Hey, um, what about that idea
that we were talking about?

562
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,696
I'm working on it.
I'm waiting for a call back

563
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,199
from our friend
at The Hill.

564
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,992
Who, Corbin? You called Corbin?
Hmm.

565
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,433
You think he can
do something?

566
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,512
We'll see. Maybe some limited
field ops under my supervision.

567
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,176
Yes, that would be amazing.
I would love...

568
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,954
Easy, Ed. I've gotta see a cleric in Milan.
We'll talk after.

569
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,871
Okay. Thank you.

570
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,470
(MACHINE WHIRRING)

571
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,074
(KNOCKS)

572
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,789
Damn, CIA does not like
to leave a trace, huh?

573
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Can I help you?

574
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,678
You get curious
to check one out?

575
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,276
See what kind of crazy-ass
covert kill mission

576
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,536
you might be erasing
from history?

577
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,640
I'm sorry,
who are you with?

578
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,434
No Such Agency.
I'm Gabriel Sol.

579
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,836
I'm the 50-pound brain from the
Council of Wizards and Warlocks.

580
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,629
Excuse me?

581
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,915
Giving you your intel for
Bucharest, dude. Oh.

582
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,911
Unless there's
another Dave Churchyard.

583
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,639
No. That's me.
Right this way.

584
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,269
I'll be right outside.
Stay if you want.

585
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,876
(SYSTEM BEEPS) Uh, I don't have
authorization to use NSA programs.

586
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,096
Well, if you're
the messenger to Bucharest,

587
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,519
you must have
a PRIVAC clearance

588
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,238
to see the finished
intel, yes?

589
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,080
Yeah...

590
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,336
GABRIEL: Yeah, so what
difference does it make

591
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,640
if you see how
it's put together?

592
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,109
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

593
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,798
Well, it's up to you, man.

594
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,316
Uh, you're giving me
just names?

595
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,953
Uh, and a lot more
than names.

596
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,437
What I will be providing you and the
fine gentlemen of the Secret Service

597
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,389
is a list of every threat made about
the President since February 3rd.

598
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,948
And a profile of
every threat-maker.

599
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,873
And these are, like,
existing targets?

600
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,151
99% are gonna come from the
bulk collection program, so...

601
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,117
Upstream, Muscular,
Tempora, PRISM.

602
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,000
PRISM?

603
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,831
You got a little
Snow White in you.

604
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,191
Which makes me feel like the witch
bringing you a poisoned apple.

605
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,589
Here. Exhibit A.

606
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,877
Oakland resident Justin Pinsky
posted on a message board,

607
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,713
"Romania has a storied history
of executing their leaders,

608
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,633
"couldn't they do us a solid
and take out Bush?"

609
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,513
Now this looks juicy.
This is from a G-chat.

610
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,830
"...with the biggest python
you've ever seen." Hmm.

611
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,351
How is this all possible?

612
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,431
Um, keyword selectors.

613
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,670
"Attack," "take out Bush."

614
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,038
So think of it as
a Google search,

615
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,136
except instead of searching
only what people make public,

616
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,355
we're also looking at
everything they don't. So...

617
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,757
Emails, chats,
SMS, whatever.

618
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,512
Yeah, but which people?

619
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,552
The whole kingdom,
Snow White.

620
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,268
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

621
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,472
Which ambassador
was he again?

622
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,120
De La Hoya, with
World Trade Organization.

623
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,315
Right.

624
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,875
(STRING QUARTET PLAYING)

625
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,160
MATT: So...

626
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,592
O'Brian came through
for you.

627
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,389
He agrees your talents are being wasted.
You ready for a little action?

628
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,760
Really? What,
you mean right here?

629
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,151
Yeah. Now.

630
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,310
See the woman in
the pink number?

631
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,155
Credit Suisse. J.P. Morgan's on her arm.
Grandma's with Deutsche Bank.

632
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,071
Ten thousand bankers
in this town.

633
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,071
All you need to turn is one.

634
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,272
Socialize. Meet a few.

635
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,079
Preferably ones sitting on
a pile of dirty Saudi money

636
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,559
that's funding bin Laden.

637
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,911
Thank you very much. Church.
Church. Sure. Churchyard.

638
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,911
(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)

639
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,519
Mr. Debrinin asks
your business card, please.

640
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,269
An ambassador. Wow!
(LAUGHING)

641
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,357
I wish I had your
schmoozing skills.

642
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,271
Uh, well,
that's why you have me.

643
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,119
Yeah. You don't know any
bankers, do you? Bankers?

644
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,428
Are you on some kind of
assignment or something?

645
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,238
Um, "Relationship cultivating."
(SIGHS) And not well.

646
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,034
Let me help you.

647
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,235
No.
Yeah.

648
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,829
No, this is serious.
I know it's serious.

649
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Trust me.

650
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,474
Any luck?

651
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,994
No, no bites.

652
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,829
Is there some kind
of trick to it?

653
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,790
It's all about finding
the pressure point.

654
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,956
Everything else is
just pushing on it.

655
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,158
Looks like
you're being summoned.

656
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,680
...we have to pay extra...
Marwan? May I interrupt?

657
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,909
This is
my boyfriend, Dave.

658
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,514
Hello, Dave. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.

659
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,669
Marwan works at Monfort.

660
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,228
We were talking,
and after last week,

661
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,117
he may be able
to give you some tips.

662
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,760
Gentlemen, I'll see you inside.
Last week?

663
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,671
He's embarrassed. It was
a lot of money for us.

664
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,230
Day trading is a perilous sport.
(LAUGHS)

665
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,715
You shouldn't be ashamed of it.
Yeah.

666
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,113
I'm gonna grab some food.
See you guys inside?

667
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,315
Sure.

668
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,468
You have a lovely girlfriend.
Thank you so much.

669
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,556
You know, I work in IT,
and so I just figured

670
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:08,393
I could crack the market
like a weak network.

671
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,592
May I ask, how precipitous
were your losses?

672
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,479
Well, I told Lindsay
it was 20,000,

673
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,393
but between you and me,
it was closer to 45.

674
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,636
Tried to recoup,
but that was a mistake,

675
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,312
and now without
any real grounding,

676
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,016
I feel like I'm just
sliding out of control.

677
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,917
Oh, I have seen it
many times.

678
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,797
And I'm always happy
to help a man

679
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,155
break a bad habit
before it gets going.

680
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,071
Oh, thank you.
I really appreciate that.

681
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,153
GABRIEL: This is the cleanest
Pakistani I've ever seen.

682
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,390
We got no first-degree ties
to government or ISI,

683
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,913
no shady family.

684
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,736
I mean, second-degree contacts
are off the charts,

685
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,376
but that's... I mean, that's
everyone in the Middle East

686
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,674
with a six-figure income.

687
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,514
Well, it's not dirt that we need
necessarily, it's a pressure point.

688
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,757
Something intimate,
some kind of weakness.

689
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,111
Can we look through his family?
Mmm-hmm.

690
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,594
GABRIEL: How about
his sister-in-law?

691
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,915
Yeah.

692
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,796
What is that, is that some
video that she sent somebody?

693
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,269
No, this is live.
Out of Paris.

694
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,754
What do you mean, live?

695
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,558
GABRIEL: Optic Nerve. It's
camera and mic activation.

696
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,760
I wish we could take credit,
but the Brits wrote it.

697
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,153
Activation?

698
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,151
GABRIEL: Yeah,
her laptop's off.

699
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,878
Or was, she just
forgot to close it.

700
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,056
Of course,
how would she know?

701
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,594
This shit is so sly, the webcam
light doesn't even turn on.

702
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,197
Hmm. I always wondered
what was under those.

703
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,194
Okay, look, let's stick
to family in Geneva.

704
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,714
All right?

705
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,791
Okay, Snow White.
Uh...

706
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,313
Fifteen-year-old daughter
at the International School.

707
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,712
Yeah. Uh, Facebook?
Is that possible?

708
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,472
Dude,
Facebook's my bitch.

709
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,039
Seriously?
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

710
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,471
Like, she fights
with her parents, or...

711
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,870
Don't worry, don't worry. I know all
the hooks for this kind of fishing.

712
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,314
Uh, query name. So email, keyword,
whatever selector you want.

713
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,151
And justification
is where I write...

714
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,557
In other words, turning your
daddy into a CIA informant.

715
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,796
Wait, that's it?
(INHALES DEEPLY) That's it, bro.

716
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,478
You don't have to get
a FISA court order?

717
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,434
Mmm-mmm. No, not here.
XKeyscore's under 702 authority,

718
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,351
which means no warrants.

719
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,115
Okay, but U.S. targets then, you'd
have to get the court order?

720
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,715
You mean FISA? Yeah, they're just
a big-ass rubber stamp, dude.

721
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,472
I mean, FISA judges
are all appointed by

722
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,154
the Chief Justice,
who's like, you know...

723
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,233
Darth Vader when it comes
to national security. Boom.

724
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,193
Here we go.

725
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:02,678
Okay, okay. And the boy
at third base is...

726
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,034
Nadim. Okay. He's 18.

727
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,496
Salma says she wants
to marry him,

728
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,317
but is scared of
telling her parents.

729
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,713
What she doesn't know is that
his other name is Nicolas.

730
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,555
And he's currently banging
Geraldine and Julie.

731
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,669
And...

732
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,590
He and his Turkish mother
are here illegally.

733
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,955
That's it.

734
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,751
(MUSIC PLAYING)

735
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,516
STRIPPER:
Ah, you like that?

736
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,113
MARWAN: I love these.

737
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,913
Man, what are
we doing here?

738
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,795
You're making people
very happy.

739
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,394
Mr. Marwan's bank
handles serious Saudi money,

740
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,755
and a whole bunch of
Russian billionaires.

741
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,072
What about any al-Qaeda money?
Anything promising?

742
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,670
Ed, I'm up for
a promotion soon.

743
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,631
I will not forget
my friends.

744
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,759
Thank you.

745
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,416
This is all going kind of
fast though, right? (LAUGHS)

746
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,351
I mean, I just sent
some initial background.

747
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,590
There he is!
The man!

748
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,908
Hey, Marwan!

749
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,151
Dave. How wonderful
to see you.

750
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,514
Good to see you, too.

751
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,430
Uh, I was counting, Marwan, you snuck
in an extra half hour back there.

752
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,354
(LAUGHS) I'm afraid she was merely
listening to an old man's woes.

753
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,440
(LAUGHS) Oh, I see.

754
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,351
So, how are you,
Marwan?

755
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,036
I must tell you,
Dave, since we met,

756
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,997
my life has gone
somewhat topsy-turvy.

757
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,151
Oh, no,
I'm sorry to hear that.

758
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,232
But your colleague
Charles here

759
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,515
has graciously
offered his help.

760
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,909
So I owe him and you
a great deal.

761
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,718
Can I ask
what happened?

762
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,914
My daughter had an...

763
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,958
Marwan's daughter
took too many sleeping pills.

764
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,632
She's all right.

765
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,632
It had something to do with her
boyfriend, who was recently deported.

766
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,631
We're trying to secure
a visa for him.

767
00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,190
And even so,
I'm afraid that Salma will...

768
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,589
I'm sorry. I won't trouble
you with such matters.

769
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,514
No, no, you... Hey. You
talk as much as you want.

770
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,273
All right?
Family comes first.

771
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,839
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)

772
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,551
(ALL LAUGHING)

773
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,148
Whoa!
Oh!

774
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,234
There's my beauty.

775
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,152
I'm never
like this before.

776
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,071
Oh, sure.
No, of course.

777
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,310
You sit down, huh?
Sit tight.

778
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,873
You sit tight.
(BOTH LAUGHING)

779
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,473
What the fuck's
going on?

780
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,516
I have been acting
swiftly and effectively

781
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,637
on the very good signals
intelligence you've provided.

782
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,155
And if his daughter
had died?

783
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,992
We could have
used that too.

784
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,150
Are you serious? What, in
the name of a promotion?

785
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:13,639
(BEEPS)

786
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,676
Marwan can't be away
from his family right now.

787
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,995
So in the morning, when
he's facing a week in jail,

788
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,152
we're going to offer him a deal
and he won't turn it down.

789
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,389
Wait, jail? For what?

790
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,549
Drunk driving.

791
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,995
Now, I want you
to call the police.

792
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,376
Tell 'em you saw
a Mercedes headed north...

793
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,628
No, he's not driving
right now.

794
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,517
Look at him,
he'll kill himself.

795
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,431
Okay. I'll call 'em.
Hey!

796
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,069
He's not driving.

797
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,908
Remind me, are you authorized on
any of the NSA programs you used?

798
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,400
So we're both doing a little
fucked up shit here, huh?

799
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,075
Watch yourself, Ed.
I will tell him who you are.

800
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,353
You reveal the identity
of an undercover officer,

801
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,113
you're going to jail
for a lot longer than Marwan.

802
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,440
MARWAN: Hey!

803
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,275
Hey.

804
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,159
Sorry I'm so late.

805
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,279
How was work?

806
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,079
It was, uh...

807
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,149
(SIGHS)
It was all right. Yeah.

808
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,791
(INHALES DEEPLY) I have to
wake up in, like, three hours.

809
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,313
My flight's at 7:00.

810
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,759
(SIGHS)

811
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,636
Well, we'd better
be quick, then.

812
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,319
(BOTH CHUCKLING)

813
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,633
(MOANING)

814
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,358
(BREATHES DEEPLY)

815
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,511
(BOTH MOANING)

816
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,836
I will provide our intelligence
and law enforcement agencies

817
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,718
with the tools they need to track
and take out the terrorists

818
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,798
without undermining our
constitution and our freedom.

819
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,536
(DOOR OPENS) That means no
more illegal wiretapping

820
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,788
of American citizens.

821
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,156
No more ignoring the law
when it is inconvenient.

822
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,639
That is not who we are.

823
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,308
Hey, hon.
Hey.

824
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,518
(LAUGHS) What happened
to the London trip?

825
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,471
Uh... (REPORTERS SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON TV)

826
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,393
Turns out I'm not going.

827
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,509
Oh.

828
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,031
What's going on?
Who's winning?

829
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,256
CORRESPONDENT: ...and Michelle Obama
voted this morning in Chicago.

830
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,720
I voted.
CORRESPONDENT: In Arizona...

831
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,035
Still early.

832
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,336
...John and Cindy McCain voted,
and then they landed in Colorado

833
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,157
to defend a traditionally
Republican state

834
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:18,673
that has turned
into a battleground.

835
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,760
Hey. Let's see.

836
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,397
WOLF: (ON TV) Obama ahead 67% to 32%...
(EXHALES DEEPLY)

837
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,597
Come on, big ears.
Check out Florida.

838
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,876
Holy shit, he's gonna win it!
(LAUGHS)

839
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,350
What, Florida?
Yeah!

840
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,431
That's big. Yeah.
It's huge!

841
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,510
You can act all nonchalant, but I know
you were starting to root for him.

842
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,311
I've been watching
your inner liberal grow.

843
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,600
For which I will take a modest
percentage of the credit.

844
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,676
And you deserve it.
(LINDSAY LAUGHING)

845
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,795
(CLEARS THROAT)

846
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:55,275
What is this?

847
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,588
WOLF:...in Missouri.

848
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,354
56% for McCain,
43% for Obama.

849
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,950
Oh, yeah, that. Just... Leave that there.
That's, uh...

850
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,040
Russian hackers.
The Agency says

851
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,680
they can activate
webcams now. So...

852
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,760
That's creepy.

853
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,070
Yes. It's really
bothering me.

854
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,800
Whatever. It's not a big deal.
You shouldn't let it bother you.

855
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,558
It's not a big deal? No.

856
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,995
What, that someone could
be watching you right now?

857
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,273
No, I'm not
hiding anything.

858
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,995
(EXHALES DEEPLY) That's such
a bullshit line. What is?

859
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,509
I have nothing to hide.
I don't.

860
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,794
Everyone does.

861
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,869
Okay, well then,
what do I have to hide?

862
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,710
(SIGHS) Forget it. No,
what do I have to hide?

863
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,631
No, never...
Let's just drop it.

864
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,030
Well, apparently you think that I'm
hiding something, so...(LAUGHS)

865
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,554
Okay, the other day,
your computer was open,

866
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,438
and I happened to notice you
were on the site where we met,

867
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:50,816
and you were looking
at other guys.

868
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,990
You just were looking
at my computer?

869
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,216
I wouldn't have
even brought this up.

870
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,231
You asked me,
"What do I have to hide?"

871
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,311
That's something
you're not telling me.

872
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,751
(STUTTERS) Well, it's not...
I don't do anything,

873
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,075
I don't meet any
of those people.

874
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,798
You're gone for weeks
at a time.

875
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,354
So it's like I'm peering
into other peoples' lives

876
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,471
because my own is
just temporarily on hold.

877
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,039
That sounds like
an excuse.

878
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,354
It's the truth.

879
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,235
(SIGHS)

880
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,355
I should have told you.
And I didn't.

881
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,069
I'm really sorry.
But it's not a big deal.

882
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,920
Hey.

883
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,359
(BREATHES DEEPLY)

884
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,629
Look at me.
I don't want anyone else.

885
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,152
I don't want
any other life.

886
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,795
Okay?

887
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,953
Listen, uh...

888
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,510
I didn't go to London today
'cause I resigned.

889
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,749
What?

890
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,991
It was personal differences,

891
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,150
and it was a matter
of principle.

892
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,872
Can you tell me
anything else?

893
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,919
Do you get
reposted, or...

894
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,639
No, no, I resigned
from the CIA.

895
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,151
LINDSAY: So what does
that mean? What do we do?

896
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,670
I don't know. I'll figure
it out, but listen, I...

897
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,596
This is a good thing.
Trust me.

898
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,474
I do.

899
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,079
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)

900
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,159
(EXHALES DEEPLY)

901
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,838
Hey.
Hmm?

902
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,429
He's gonna win.

903
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,656
WOLF: (ON TV) 52% for Obama,
48% for McCain.

904
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,874
Yeah, he'd better.

905
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,073
CNN can now project that
Barack Obama, 47 years old,

906
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,879
will become the President of the
United States. (PEOPLE CHEERING)

907
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,950
OBAMA: (ON TV) Every agency and department
should know that this administration

908
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,314
stands on the side

909
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,516
not of those who seek
to withhold information,

910
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,431
but those who seek
to make it known.

911
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,951
GLENN: Janine is
the website editor

912
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,998
of a small stateside office
of a British newspaper,

913
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,594
up against the most powerful
government in the world.

914
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,954
EWEN: She won't be bullied.

915
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,396
We need to establish
that we're not compromising

916
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,311
national security
by publishing.

917
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,958
GLENN: We need
to have alternatives.

918
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,359
Listen, Ed,

919
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,829
the real issue here is that
they, the White House,

920
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,196
are aware that Janine has a leaked
top secret FISA court order.

921
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,474
Anything could happen.

922
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,959
They could subpoena
the Guardian

923
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,176
and, for that matter,
they could

924
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,560
break through
that door any minute,

925
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,596
ending all of this.

926
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,875
We are running
out of time.

927
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,032
We seriously have to think about
doing this on our own website.

928
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,434
We have no choice.

929
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,317
Wait, you can't just
start dumping articles

930
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,237
on the Internet, Glenn!
Be serious.

931
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,993
Look at WikiLeaks.
It destroyed their credibility.

932
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,638
Look, Ed,
you said it yourself,

933
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:36,156
if this isn't done properly,
the world isn't gonna take notice.

934
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,596
You need experienced
journalists to lead the public

935
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,148
through some very,
very complicated stories.

936
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:43,753
We are
experienced journalists.

937
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,673
My feeling...
(PHONE RINGING)

938
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,157
Has anyone called here before?
Not once. Not in three weeks.

939
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:57,832
Well, I'll...
Shall I answer it?

940
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,598
I'll tell 'em it's
the wrong number.

941
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,429
Yes?

942
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,353
No, I don't.

943
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,439
Okay. Thank you.

944
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,191
Asking if I want
turndown service.

945
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,748
She said the "Do not disturb"
sign was off the door.

946
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,548
(DOOR CLOSES)

947
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,438
(EWEN SIGHS)

948
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,633
(DOOR CLOSES)

949
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,029
So?

950
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,312
Do we wait?
Or go on our own?

951
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,240
Look, I said
from the beginning

952
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,312
that how you publish
is your business,

953
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,152
and I trust you.

954
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:49,959
The only thing I ask is you study
the data, you be responsible,

955
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,719
no names, no specifics,
anything ongoing

956
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,950
that's critical,
you don't release.

957
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,429
You just stick to the issue
of mass surveillance

958
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,560
and let the people decide.

959
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,800
GLENN: You have our word on that, but
that's not the question. We have to ask...

960
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,478
EWEN: Look, Ed, Ed,

961
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,949
right now the White House is
arranging a conference call

962
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,110
between Janine and
the intelligence services.

963
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,272
Now that's gonna happen
in a few hours.

964
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,239
Let's at least wait for that,
see what they say to her.

965
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,876
I'd say we pause a moment.

966
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,616
EWEN: Yeah, I think
we should reassemble

967
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,176
in this room after
the call takes place,

968
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,829
so that's around midnight.
Be noon in New York.

969
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,113
All right.

970
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,509
I'll take another pass at the
PRISM story in the meantime.

971
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,479
Okay. We'll be in our hotel
room if you need us, okay?

972
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,560
Thanks, Ewen.

973
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,789
Yeah.
Okay.

974
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,519
(DOOR CLOSES)

975
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,198
Uh, do you mind maybe
we take a break from that?

976
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,078
For a second?

977
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,669
Oh, yeah. Sure, sorry.
(CAMERA BEEPS)

978
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,196
You wanna take a look?
Might make you feel better.

979
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,039
Oh. (LAUGHS) It's not
recording, just on standby.

980
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,473
Okay.
(LAUGHS)

981
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,475
When did this start for you?
Not wanting your photo taken?

982
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,149
Uh, probably in Japan.
(EXHALES DEEPLY)

983
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,708
I remember every time
a camera got pointed at me,

984
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,155
it was like...
Couldn't breathe.

985
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,593
Why was that?

986
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,437
I probably, uh, spent too much time
looking at other people through cameras.

987
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,869
Japan was your
first NSA job, right?

988
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,909
Yeah, well, as a contractor with Dell.
Had a lot of access.

989
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,391
LAURA: Why'd you go
back after Geneva?

990
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,149
'Cause the money, and 'cause
I wanted to live in Japan.

991
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:44,992
And because of Obama,
actually.

992
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,719
You know, I thought things were
gonna get better with him.

993
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,479
I was wrong.

994
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,916
(INDISTINCT CHATTER
OVER PA)

995
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,200
LAURA:
What was it like there?

996
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,236
SNOWDEN: Well,
in the first part of my day,

997
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,518
I was building this round-the-clock
backup system called Epic Shelter.

998
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,114
So, if there was
some catastrophe,

999
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,078
say, uh, terrorists
burned down every embassy

1000
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,720
and NSA post in
the Middle East.

1001
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,476
This program would ensure we
wouldn't lose any of that data.

1002
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,554
But then, I would have to put it
aside when visitors would show up.

1003
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Hi, Ed.

1004
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:29,510
SNOWDEN: NSA wanted to impress the
Japanese, show them our reach.

1005
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,233
They loved
the live drone feeds.

1006
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,470
This is over Pakistan.

1007
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,719
Right now.

1008
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,072
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1009
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,995
SNOWDEN: They were not as thrilled to
learn that we wanted them to help us

1010
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,196
spy on
the Japanese population.

1011
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,073
They said it was
against their laws.

1012
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,390
Course we tapped
the entire country anyway.

1013
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,316
And we didn't stop there,

1014
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,550
'cause once we owned
their communications systems,

1015
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,552
we started going after
their physical infrastructure.

1016
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,918
We'd slip these little sleeper
programs into power grids,

1017
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,956
dams, hospitals,

1018
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,110
and the idea was
if the day came

1019
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,589
when Japan was
no longer an ally,

1020
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,999
it'd be lights out.

1021
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,917
(POWERING DOWN)

1022
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,474
And it wasn't
just the Japanese.

1023
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,075
We were planting malware
in Mexico, Germany,

1024
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,832
Brazil, Austria.

1025
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,915
I mean, China I can understand,
or Russia, or Iran,

1026
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,673
or Venezuela, okay.
But Austria?

1027
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,994
(COWBELL DINGS)

1028
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,477
You're also being ordered
to follow most world leaders

1029
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,152
and heads of industry.

1030
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,550
You know, you're tracking
trade deals, sex scandals,

1031
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,553
diplomatic cables
to give the U. S.

1032
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,108
An advantage in
negotiations at the G8,

1033
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,795
or leverage over
Brazilian oil companies,

1034
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,032
or helping to oust some third-world
leader who's not playing ball.

1035
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,630
And ultimately,
the truth sinks in

1036
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,553
that no matter what justification
you're selling yourself,

1037
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,915
this is not about terrorism.

1038
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,277
Terrorism is the excuse.

1039
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,950
This is about economic
and social control.

1040
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,074
And the only thing
you're really protecting

1041
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,549
is the supremacy
of your government.

1042
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,991
LAURA: Were you thinking about
going to journalists then?

1043
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,038
No. No, that wouldn't have
occurred to me back then.

1044
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,679
I just thought, you know,
the system will self-correct,

1045
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,275
and the President will keep his
promise that got him elected...

1046
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,194
That's actually when I first started
reading about you and your films.

1047
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,349
It was in Glenn's blog.

1048
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,512
You were being detained
in airports for hours.

1049
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,434
Thirty-seven times. For investigating
your own country's wars.

1050
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:05,111
(SIGHS) That's why I'm going back to Berlin
to edit. You can trust me with this.

1051
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,790
I do. Yeah.

1052
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,714
I haven't trusted
anyone in years.

1053
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:21,557
It was a welcome change when they
put me on terrorism watch duty.

1054
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,915
Every day, I'd go in and I'd get
starting points for SIGINT,

1055
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,634
which is signals intelligence.
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

1056
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,914
A lot of them were American,
which felt strange,

1057
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,831
but you just keep
reminding yourself,

1058
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,913
I could stop a dirty bomb attack
and save thousands of lives.

1059
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,950
The thing is, you're not just
following your bad guy targets.

1060
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,600
You're also following
their metadata,

1061
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,673
which is basically all the phone
numbers that they're in touch with.

1062
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,309
Let's say your target
is a shady Iranian banker

1063
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,914
operating out of Beirut,
okay.

1064
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,434
So you're watching his stuff,
but you're also watching

1065
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,954
all the people
that he talks to.

1066
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,634
Including,
you know, his cousin,

1067
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,280
who's just some dentist
living in Buffalo.

1068
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,158
And then you have to watch
all of that guy's contacts.

1069
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,596
And by the time you go a third hop
out from the original target,

1070
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:20,198
you're watching this bartender
chat with her mother about Botox.

1071
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:25,274
'Cause three hops from anyone
with, say, 40 contacts,

1072
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,999
you're looking at a list
of 2. 5 million people.

1073
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,676
And there's that
moment when

1074
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,355
you're sitting there and
the scale of it hits you.

1075
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:41,116
The NSA is really tracking
every cell phone in the world.

1076
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,037
No matter who you are,

1077
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,799
every day of your life,
you're sitting in a database

1078
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,474
just ready
to be looked at.

1079
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,278
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1080
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:04,672
SNOWDEN: And not just terrorists, or
countries, or corporations, but you.

1081
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,276
Was Lindsay with you
in Japan?

1082
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,675
Japan was difficult
for us.

1083
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,636
I guess you couldn't
talk about your work.

1084
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,319
No. (LAUGHS)

1085
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,549
There was this one night,
uh, towards the end,

1086
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,158
when, uh, we were supposed to go
climb Mount Fuji the next day...

1087
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,077
(SONG PLAYING)

1088
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Wow!

1089
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,868
Are you gonna
post that on Twitter?

1090
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,960
No.

1091
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,714
They're just for me.
What do you think?

1092
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,231
You should delete those.

1093
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,079
That's not quite the artistic
critique I was going for.

1094
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,032
I'm sorry. You just...
You should...

1095
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,976
You can't have stuff like
that on your hard drive.

1096
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,035
LINDSAY: Yes, I can.

1097
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,079
Can you just please... I'm
asking you, can you delete them?

1098
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,159
Russian hackers again?

1099
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,275
No...

1100
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,159
Is it us?

1101
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,075
It's classified.

1102
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:23,868
Am I a target?

1103
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,188
Of course not.

1104
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,755
Clearly someone is looking
at my nude portraits.

1105
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,717
Okay. I shouldn't
have brought it up.

1106
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,109
All right? It's issues
of national security.

1107
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,350
Well, I am flattered
that my boobs

1108
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,311
are considered an issue
of national security,

1109
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,176
but you're gonna have to do
a lot better than that.

1110
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,668
I'd rather not talk about stuff
that could land us in jail.

1111
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,576
LINDSAY: So that's what
the Band-Aids are about, then?

1112
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,431
And your camera phobia?

1113
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:48,714
Because of work?

1114
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,113
Are they watching us?

1115
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,478
Who are they watching?
No one, okay?

1116
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,198
Let's just stop
talking about it.

1117
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,949
Let's go to bed,
and wake up in the morning,

1118
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,635
and go climb this fucking mountain.
All right?

1119
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,176
Of course we're not
gonna talk about it.

1120
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:07,474
What is that
supposed to mean?

1121
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,028
It means that we don't talk
about anything anymore.

1122
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,354
You work 12-hour days,
you come home depressed,

1123
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,795
you play fucking video games,
and then you fall asleep.

1124
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,552
Yeah, I'm tired
'cause I have a job.

1125
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,039
That's what pays
for this apartment

1126
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,838
in the most expensive city
in the world.

1127
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,151
Which you asked me to come to knowing
that I did not have a work visa.

1128
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,468
Okay, what if
you had one?

1129
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,075
Would you really give up your
beautiful life of eating and sleeping

1130
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,760
and going out all the time? You
think you'd really want a career?

1131
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,156
A career like yours? Where I'm
miserable all the time? No.

1132
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,390
That's called
responsibility.

1133
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,150
(CHUCKLES) Fuck this.

1134
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,071
You know what?
You have no fucking idea

1135
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,833
what it's like to be accountable
for other people's lives,

1136
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,990
because you live
in a fairy tale land

1137
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,991
where just there
are no consequences,

1138
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,672
and no one ever gets hurt.

1139
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:52,919
(SIGHS)

1140
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,071
(VOICE BREAKING) No. No,
you, you don't get hurt.

1141
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:00,919
(SOBS) I get
fucking crushed.

1142
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,837
Fucking bullshit!
I've done nothing to you!

1143
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,876
That's exactly right.
You have done nothing!

1144
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,990
You don't hang out with me,
you don't laugh with me,

1145
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,913
you don't even
fucking touch me anymore.

1146
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,388
I'm sorry.
Stop!

1147
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,632
No! (SOBS)

1148
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,115
We, uh, never made it to Mount Fuji.
(LAUGHS SOFTLY)

1149
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,269
And Lindsay left pretty
soon after that, and...

1150
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,518
I was really lonely there.

1151
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,480
But after three months, I left too.
I went back to Maryland.

1152
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,199
(DOORBELL RINGING)

1153
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:09,635
(CHUCKLES)

1154
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,232
And I promised her
I'd change.

1155
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,071
And, uh, we moved
back in together.

1156
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,576
(PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) Make
sure your knees stay bent,

1157
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,512
and then you can fully extend
once you feel stable. Ready?

1158
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,636
One, two, three.

1159
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,320
All the way up.

1160
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,976
Now you wanna clench
between your knees.

1161
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,434
It'll burn,
but it's a good burn.

1162
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,520
Perfect.

1163
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,993
Twirl around.

1164
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,830
(CLAPPING) Perfect! Oh, my
God, I'm so proud of you!

1165
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,751
SNOWDEN:
When you're really happy,

1166
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,196
there's a large part of you
that just wants to stay happy.

1167
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,511
And you start to think, what could
be more important than this?

1168
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,193
What!
Is it okay?

1169
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,036
Oh, my God.
It's so beautiful.

1170
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,633
SNOWDEN: You know, lots of people
cruise happily through life.

1171
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,719
Why can't I?
(CAMERA CLICKING)

1172
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,278
And I went back
to work at the CIA.

1173
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,032
With backdoors...

1174
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,873
My official title was
Solutions Consultant.

1175
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,037
Basically I was hawking
overpriced hardware for a living.

1176
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,792
But I thought
you had resigned?

1177
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,348
Yeah, well, it was all
contract work after Geneva.

1178
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,670
You know,
it's Booz Allen Hamilton,

1179
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,876
or Dell, in partnership

1180
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,997
with CIA or NSA, DIA.

1181
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,633
That's the intelligence
community's revolving door.

1182
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,628
How was it?
Being back in the States?

1183
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,669
It was, uh, it was
really good to be home.

1184
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,118
But Maryland was where things
started to turn for me.

1185
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,556
Every time I felt like I was finally
letting go of all the anxiety

1186
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,234
and all the questions that
used to keep me up at night,

1187
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,233
I'd learn something else,
and I just couldn't ignore it.

1188
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,228
Like, there were these three
high-level officials at the NSA,

1189
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,039
Bill Binney, Ed Loomis,
and Kirk Wiebe.

1190
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,318
They'd been filing complaints about
abuse and overreach for years.

1191
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,188
That's all they did,
they just filed complaints,

1192
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,431
and the FBI
raided their homes.

1193
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,073
Then there was Thomas Drake.

1194
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,116
Like the other three guys,
Drake was trying

1195
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,475
to change things
from the inside.

1196
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,949
But when nothing worked,
he did go to the press.

1197
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,953
So they hit him with the Espionage
Act, and we were shocked.

1198
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,951
The whole intel community.

1199
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,416
SCOTT: (ON VIDEO) Why do you
think you were charged?

1200
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,953
To send a chilling message.

1201
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,360
To whom?

1202
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,000
To other whistleblowers,
to others in the government,

1203
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,190
not to speak out.

1204
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,319
Do not tell truth to power.
We'll hammer you.

1205
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,559
O'BRIAN: There's a new
program being developed

1206
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,995
at the NSA's op
center on Oahu.

1207
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,549
You'd be going up against
Chinese cyber divisions.

1208
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,989
You interested?

1209
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,916
Won't be the vast sums of
money you're making now,

1210
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,468
but you'd be performing a critical
service for your country.

1211
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,879
I know that's
important to you.

1212
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,269
You mean service
like in Geneva?

1213
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,193
Matt was a mistake. Shouldn't
have pushed you into that.

1214
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,320
You didn't push me
into it.

1215
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,516
I asked for exposure to field
ops, you gave it to me.

1216
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,318
I won't hold that
against you.

1217
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,828
Is there something
you do hold against me?

1218
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,240
You didn't tell me
we were running

1219
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,510
a dragnet on
the whole world, Corbin.

1220
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,472
(DOG BARKING)

1221
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,190
(GUNSHOTS)

1222
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,388
Great shooting, Ed.

1223
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:03,799
Thank you.

1224
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,838
That's terrific.

1225
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,709
(LAUGHS) It's the one thing
in the Army I was good at.

1226
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,438
O'BRIAN:
You ever think, Ed,

1227
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,355
since the Second World War,
it's been 60 years and still no WW III.

1228
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,395
Why?

1229
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,313
Because we've used our power
generally for the good of the world.

1230
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,918
For prosperity, order.

1231
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,878
How can we defend
ourselves against

1232
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,157
nuclear war, terror attacks,
cyber-attacks

1233
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,629
without a centralized
intel factory

1234
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,597
working around the world
night and day?

1235
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,233
So we should catalogue
billions of people's lives?

1236
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,676
O'BRIAN: Most people already catalogue
their lives for public consumption.

1237
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,911
Well, they catalogue part of their lives,
and they do it by choice.

1238
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,496
We're not giving them the choice.
We're just taking everything.

1239
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,274
Most Americans don't want freedom,
they want security.

1240
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,678
It's a simple bargain. If...

1241
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,756
Good girl! Good girl!
(GROWLS)

1242
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,352
If you want to play
with all the new toys

1243
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:08,398
and be safe, you pay
the price of admission.

1244
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,639
Yeah, except people,

1245
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,536
they don't even know
they've made that bargain.

1246
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,790
Where's the modern
battlefield, soldier?

1247
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,640
Everywhere.

1248
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,349
(MAN SHOUTING) O'BRIAN: What's
the first rule of battle?

1249
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,112
Never reveal
your position.

1250
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,870
And if one unauthorized person knew?
If Congress knew?

1251
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,712
So would the enemy.

1252
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,839
That, Mr. Snowden,
is the state of the world.

1253
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,589
Secrecy is security,
and security is victory.

1254
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,429
(PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY
IN THE DISTANCE)

1255
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,159
(DOG BARKS)

1256
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:48,878
Thank you, sir.

1257
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:51,708
Someone I want you
to meet.

1258
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,816
MAN: Beautiful day for it, wasn't it?
Perfect weather.

1259
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,308
Mr. Lowell. Jim.

1260
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,756
How are you?
Dorian.

1261
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:00,193
Alan.
Nice to see you.

1262
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,395
O'BRIAN:
Welcome to the U.S.

1263
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:03,038
How'd you make
out today, Corbin?

1264
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,958
Uh, very mediocre.
Nothing like Ed here.

1265
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,393
Apparently the Army's training
people to shoot straight.

1266
01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:11,277
So this is Ed Snowden.

1267
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,560
Yes, sir.
Pleasure to meet you.

1268
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,069
The brains behind Epic Shelter.
That's right.

1269
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,496
That's brilliant work.
Thank you, sir.

1270
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,016
Yeah, I had a few questions
I wanted to ask you.

1271
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,873
Uh, Jim. Will you
excuse me, gentlemen?

1272
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,719
Excuse me, Alan.
Nice to meet you.

1273
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,991
Yeah, it's proving very useful
to our UAV program.

1274
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,277
Yes, I heard. With foreign
site intel transfer.

1275
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,952
Transfers happen
on collection now.

1276
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,350
They go straight to the Pentagon,
Mossad if they need it.

1277
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,193
Actionable immediately.
No one sees it.

1278
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,634
It's improved
the response time

1279
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,597
of our drone pilots
by a factor of ten.

1280
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,636
Tell me, Ed. You worked signals
intelligence in Japan too, yes?

1281
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:47,789
Yes, sir.

1282
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,632
How'd you like it?

1283
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,235
It was a very empowering job, sir.
(LAUGHS)

1284
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,512
With this new job in Hawaii,
you'd have even more access.

1285
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,718
I asked Corbin to start the conversation.
But the offer is mine.

1286
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,352
Take your time.

1287
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:06,616
It's going to
take a few months

1288
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,949
to get this program
on its feet.

1289
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,679
If you'll excuse me,
gentlemen, I see dinner.

1290
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,597
ATTENDANT: Beer, sir?
Thank you.

1291
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,077
Sir, for you?
Uh, no, thank you.

1292
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,796
Epic Shelter was meant
as a backup program.

1293
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,516
Lowell is creating
this position for you, Ed.

1294
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,194
You'd be the first contractor
outside Fort Meade

1295
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,918
working counter-cyber.

1296
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,190
It's your ticket to the top.

1297
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:45,997
(MEAT SIZZLING)

1298
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,016
POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Do you believe the United States

1299
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,996
is the greatest country
in the world?

1300
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,718
Yes.
(BEEPING)

1301
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,296
POLYGRAPH ADMINISTRATOR:
Have you ever used

1302
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,993
any programs
you were unauthorized for?

1303
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:05,995
SNOWDEN: No.

1304
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:07,480
(BEEPS)

1305
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:21,193
LINDSAY: We're not usually
supposed to submit our own work,

1306
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,556
but my editor said
she'd make an exception.

1307
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:25,675
Pretty neat, huh?

1308
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,150
(GRUNTS) I get to
submit an entry.

1309
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,954
You ignoring me
on purpose, or what?

1310
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,554
No. Sorry.
Shit. Uh...

1311
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,355
(SIGHS)
I was just thinking.

1312
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:45,674
About what?

1313
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,349
I wanted to talk to you
about it at dinner,

1314
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,670
but let's just...
Will you come sit down?

1315
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,230
Is everything okay?

1316
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,514
Yeah.

1317
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,788
Um...

1318
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,519
The, uh, Deputy Director
of the NSA...

1319
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,079
Hmm?
(INHALES DEEPLY)

1320
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,390
He offered me
a new position.

1321
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,518
And, uh, that was a while back,
and now they need an answer.

1322
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,870
Well, is it something
you want to do?

1323
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,077
I'd be good at it.

1324
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,508
Can you tell me anything about it?
(LAUGHING)

1325
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,552
(LAUGHS)
You know I can't.

1326
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,473
I know. Mission first.

1327
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,473
(INHALES DEEPLY)

1328
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,234
Well, are there social perks?
White House galas, maybe?

1329
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:39,433
The position
is in Hawaii.

1330
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,278
We worked really hard
to get where we're at.

1331
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,951
And you're willing to
just rip it all up again?

1332
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,917
Like we finally have
a house that we love,

1333
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,831
and a job that I like,
and real friends,

1334
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,920
and we're close to our families.
I... I understand.

1335
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,878
And if you want to stay,
then we're staying.

1336
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,515
That's it.

1337
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,416
Don't just say that
'cause I wanna hear it.

1338
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:09,440
I'm not.

1339
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,075
I let you go once,
I'm not gonna do it again.

1340
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:22,959
(LID RATTLING)

1341
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,791
Shit. I'm sorry.
The pasta.

1342
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,520
It's gonna... One sec.
(LINDSAY CHUCKLES)

1343
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,376
You know, I think I actually
came pretty close

1344
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,436
to getting it
right this time.

1345
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,273
LINDSAY:
I'll get some candles.

1346
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,153
(VOICE ECHOING)
Oh, my God! Ed! Ed! Ed!

1347
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,308
(INAUDIBLE)

1348
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,713
SNOWDEN: I know Tegretol.

1349
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,936
I know it slows you down,
'cause I've seen it in my mom.

1350
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,679
She's taken all kinds
of medications her whole life.

1351
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,714
Well, they work
in 70% of cases.

1352
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,431
Ed, epilepsy is
a serious condition.

1353
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,432
If you have a seizure
driving yourself,

1354
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,636
or with someone else
in the car,

1355
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,110
or you're in a place
where you could fall,

1356
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,714
this is not something
to be lightly regarded.

1357
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,553
It's essential you commit
yourself to this medication.

1358
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,314
Okay?

1359
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:20,349
Yeah.

1360
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,113
After you.
Oh, thank you.

1361
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,468
(BOTH LAUGHING)

1362
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:34,313
I've been thinking about
what the doctor said.

1363
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,913
About less stress.

1364
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,556
A warmer climate
could help.

1365
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,913
(INHALES DEEPLY)

1366
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,913
If Hawaii is something
that we decide

1367
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,197
would be better
for you, I'll go.

1368
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,354
EWEN: Janine, how'd the White
House conversation go?

1369
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:12,496
JANINE: (OVER PHONE)
I made it quite clear

1370
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,432
that we were in possession of
an authentic FISA court order.

1371
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,988
They wanted to see it.
We refused.

1372
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,435
Now I just pray that
it's actually authentic.

1373
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,678
Are you actually
questioning that?

1374
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,598
Glenn, no one has ever seen
a FISA court order.

1375
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,358
There's no precedent here.

1376
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,398
Our source risked his life
for that document. It's real.

1377
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,675
T ell us, did the White House
make any specific claims

1378
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,116
about national security that would
prevent you from publishing?

1379
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,999
No. I asked them repeatedly, and
they had no substantive answer.

1380
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,456
Then, there you go!
What more do you want?

1381
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:48,232
You can go out and
know that you're safe.

1382
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,313
Glenn, I'd like to talk to
Alan before we go any further.

1383
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,435
EWEN: When does he land?

1384
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,776
STUART: (OVER COMPUTER)
In six hours.

1385
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,792
No. Absolutely not!
We're sitting ducks here, Janine.

1386
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,639
It's 1:00 p.m.
in New York.

1387
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,456
If you don't get this out
in the next four hours,

1388
01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:03,296
you'll miss the evening news
on the East Coast.

1389
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,788
But we can post
later tonight.

1390
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,320
I'm sorry, Glenn.

1391
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,641
But Alan's our editor-in-chief,
and I really think that...

1392
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,478
Bullshit! The government knows
that we have these documents now.

1393
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,910
The CIA could barge through this door
any minute, and you want more time!

1394
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,838
Act like a fucking journalist
and stop stringing us along!

1395
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,071
I just stood my ground
with the goddamn White House!

1396
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,434
I've risked my career!

1397
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,480
How dare you question
my commitment to this story!

1398
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,936
Okay, let's just
keep our voices down...

1399
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,176
No, you're right.
I am questioning it.

1400
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,509
This is absolutely
inappropriate.

1401
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,356
We are publishing ourselves.
You're out.

1402
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:37,439
(SCOFFS)

1403
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,109
All right, Glenn.

1404
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,509
We'll have it ready
by 4:00 p.m.

1405
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,033
I have to go over the
story once more. Why?

1406
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,919
Because it still
needs editing, damn you.

1407
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,912
All this fucking intelligence
jargon is hurting our brains.

1408
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,675
This PRISM story is
still incomprehensible.

1409
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,239
PRISM is the second story,
Janine.

1410
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,157
Verizon is the first story.

1411
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:08,794
Have it ready to post by 4:00 p. m.,
5:00 at the latest.

1412
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,108
Ugh...

1413
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,475
No games, or we're gone.

1414
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,350
(HEAVY BREATHING)

1415
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,313
SNOWDEN: So, my new job
was counter-spying

1416
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,235
on the Chinese at the NSA Regional
Cryptological Center on Oahu.

1417
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,595
Hi. You mind placing your
bag down there, sir?

1418
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:53,432
No personal laptops,
no USB sticks, no cell phones,

1419
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,953
no electronic devices
of any kind?

1420
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,109
No, sir.

1421
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,432
(WOMAN SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON PA)

1422
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:05,915
GUARD: Thank you.

1423
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:11,235
Thank you.

1424
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,552
Snow White!
Is that you?

1425
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,040
Gabriel?

1426
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,475
Dude, what the hell are you doing here?
(CHUCKLES) Wow!

1427
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,595
That's amazing.

1428
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,715
Oh, man.

1429
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:27,109
What, do you work here?

1430
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,637
Yeah, yeah. Uh, three years,
two months, and five days.

1431
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,871
But who's counting, right?
Yeah.

1432
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,236
It's like who knew a secret
underground World War II-era base

1433
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,456
would become munchie heaven
for a thousand geeks, right?

1434
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,040
So there's good pizza?
Good pizza, yeah.

1435
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,080
That's important.

1436
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,718
Elevator's slow
as shit, though.

1437
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,800
Jesus.

1438
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,160
GABRIEL: It's something
else, huh?

1439
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:52,270
Yeah. So, uh, what deck
are you working on?

1440
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,999
You NTOC or ROC?

1441
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,912
Between you and me? NTOC.
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)

1442
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,513
Cool. You get to
hack the hackers.

1443
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,828
You're coming up
in the world.

1444
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,957
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1445
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,234
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)
Fresh brains for you, Trevor.

1446
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,515
Trevor James, Interactive
Ops Division Chief.

1447
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,600
Ed Snowden.

1448
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,194
I've been briefed.
Next door is NTOC.

1449
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,190
Defense. That's where
you'll be working.

1450
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,230
Over here we have ROC,
our offense.

1451
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,430
Now I move between the two.
We run a tight ship here, Snowden.

1452
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:33,873
Yes, sir.

1453
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,188
You'll be working
with Haynes.

1454
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:36,713
Hey. Patrick Haynes.

1455
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,176
Hey. Nice to meet you.
Good to have you.

1456
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:39,428
You watch out for him.

1457
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,336
That's the smartest guy
in the building right here.

1458
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,360
(CHUCKLES)
Come on.

1459
01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:44,016
Bro, how many languages
you speak, again?

1460
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,032
I mean, seven in code,
six spoken, two signs.

1461
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:48,120
That's cool.

1462
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,233
Great. Another language
I can't understand.

1463
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,673
Uh, I'll check you
later, Ed.

1464
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:58,829
Okay. See you.

1465
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,593
TREVOR: Wait for it.

1466
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,230
Any moment.

1467
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,080
TECHNICIAN: We got 'em.

1468
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,760
TREVOR: Lights over
Waziristan, gentlemen.

1469
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,109
Way to go.

1470
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,919
So what exactly do we
contribute to this?

1471
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,696
The underside of
that Reaper drone

1472
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,472
is fixed with
a big-ass antenna,

1473
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,319
snarfing the hardware ID
of anything that broadcasts.

1474
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,675
We do the geolocator.

1475
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:27,936
My friend Tasha
here at the Air Force

1476
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,598
rains hellfire.
There she is now.

1477
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,920
FEMALE DRONE PILOT: Hey, Trev.
You likin' the show?

1478
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,470
You know it. We track 'em,
you whack 'em.

1479
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,392
SNOWDEN: And who
did we just track?

1480
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:38,752
Not who, what.

1481
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,991
We're targeting bad guys' cell phones.
Sometimes the SIM card.

1482
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,509
Okay, and how do we
know the bad guy

1483
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,192
is in possession of
the bad cell phone

1484
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,429
when we strike?

1485
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,555
Well, we don't...

1486
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,638
Course we do. JSOC and CIA have
their people in the field.

1487
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,479
What's the program name?

1488
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,839
Epic Shelter.

1489
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,071
It was originally some
backup program for, um...

1490
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:02,549
Catastrophic site failure.

1491
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,636
Yeah. How did
you know that?

1492
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,035
I built it.

1493
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:08,474
You?
Yeah.

1494
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:11,376
You know I've actually...
I've been thinking about, uh,

1495
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,550
another use
for Epic Shelter.

1496
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:14,675
What'd you have
in mind?

1497
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,596
Well, I was chatting
with Jim Lowell

1498
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:18,736
about how there's
so many programs...

1499
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:19,795
Deputy Director Lowell?

1500
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,030
Yeah. Yeah.

1501
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,355
And we were saying there's
so many programs nowadays,

1502
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:26,536
it's kind of impossible to keep
track of them anymore, right?

1503
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,233
So why not create
a centralized database.

1504
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,073
Ah. Like an index.

1505
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,469
Yeah, exactly. Something
that updates in real time,

1506
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,269
you know, we've already got Epic
Shelter collecting our finished intel.

1507
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,830
We just need a web portal to
catalogue it, make it searchable.

1508
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,359
Let me think about it.

1509
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:45,431
In any case, I'd have to
run it past Fort Meade.

1510
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,555
SNOWDEN: Of course.

1511
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:47,789
Did you have a name?

1512
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,995
Yeah, if it's not taken,
I'd call it Heartbeat.

1513
01:24:53,480 --> 01:24:56,199
Heartbeat.
FEMALE DRONE PILOT: Six, five, four,

1514
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,676
three, two, one...

1515
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,079
Engage target.

1516
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,593
LINDSAY:
You okay down there?

1517
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:19,835
Yep.

1518
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,353
See, this is why I keep saying
we need to hike more.

1519
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:25,475
SNOWDEN: You're right.

1520
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,029
Hey, can you look at me?

1521
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,120
Oh!

1522
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,348
LINDSAY: Come on. It's been years.
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)

1523
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:34,358
By social media standards,
you don't even exist anymore.

1524
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,029
Just one.

1525
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,121
Okay, smile. Show me your teeth!
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)

1526
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,479
My elusive E,
finally captured.

1527
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,437
So now I'm
a viable boyfriend?

1528
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,714
Yes.
(LAUGHS)

1529
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,039
Such a shame, you used to be
such a cute little model.

1530
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,155
Little?
Yeah.

1531
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,356
Was I little?
Wait! (LAUGHING)

1532
01:25:58,560 --> 01:25:59,913
Stop!

1533
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,796
Oh, my God.
What?

1534
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,831
Think you got some sun!
(CHUCKLES)

1535
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,990
I'm serious,
it looks good!

1536
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,433
Well, that's impossible.

1537
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,195
Hey, um, I've been meaning
to ask you, by the way.

1538
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,599
Did you switch
pharmacies?

1539
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,036
'Cause I tried to pick up
your prescription,

1540
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,431
and I couldn't.

1541
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,748
Why did you do that?

1542
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,710
Uh, because I was there and
thought it would be helpful.

1543
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:44,991
I stopped taking
the Tegretol.

1544
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,439
What? When?

1545
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,192
A couple months ago.

1546
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:52,416
And you're just
now telling me?

1547
01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:54,192
I wanted to tell you.

1548
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,556
I did, I just... I can't take
that stuff, it makes me groggy,

1549
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,108
and I need to be
sharp for work.

1550
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,838
I need to be on the
ball all the time.

1551
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,096
What is it about
this fucking job

1552
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,588
that makes it more
important than your life?

1553
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:06,795
(SIGHS)

1554
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:08,314
I don't understand.

1555
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,719
Our government...

1556
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:13,799
Our government, what?

1557
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,110
Our government is hemorrhaging
billions of dollars

1558
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,714
every year
to Chinese hackers.

1559
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,314
And I've been hired
to shut them down.

1560
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,788
A lot of people
are depending on me.

1561
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,831
More so than
anyone else?

1562
01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:34,480
Yes.

1563
01:27:37,480 --> 01:27:41,155
No, this is bullshit.

1564
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,718
We didn't come to Hawaii
for you to heal, did we?

1565
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,195
There was never gonna be
a less stressful job out here.

1566
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,113
Look, I feel like
I'm made to do this.

1567
01:27:55,200 --> 01:28:00,149
And if I don't do it, then I don't
know anybody else that can.

1568
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:07,515
It's like I'm on a trajectory
that I can't turn back from.

1569
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,159
LINDSAY: You can
always turn back.

1570
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:17,936
SENATOR WYDEN:
What I wanted to see

1571
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,396
is if you could give me a yes
or no answer to the question,

1572
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:25,871
"Does the NSA collect
any type of data at all

1573
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,396
"on millions or hundreds
of millions of Americans?"

1574
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,549
DIRECTOR CLAPPER: No, sir.

1575
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,633
SENATOR WYDEN: It does not?

1576
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,799
Not wittingly.

1577
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,474
There are cases where
they could inadvertently,

1578
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,437
perhaps, uh, collect,

1579
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,112
but not wittingly.

1580
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,394
Oh, really?

1581
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:46,496
SENATOR WYDEN: Thank you, and
I'll have additional questions

1582
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,397
to give you in writing
on that point.

1583
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:49,595
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

1584
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,073
SNOWDEN: Okay, so, uh,

1585
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,390
what I wanted to
show you guys is, um,

1586
01:28:53,480 --> 01:28:56,995
the slide I ran across while
building this indexing program.

1587
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:58,435
And what is this?

1588
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,318
Okay. So, this is
data collection

1589
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,311
for the month of March

1590
01:29:02,440 --> 01:29:04,670
worldwide,
emails and Skype calls.

1591
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:11,074
So France, 70 million.
Germany, 500 million. Brazil, two billion.

1592
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,836
Inside the U.S.,

1593
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,151
3.1 billion emails and calls.

1594
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,595
That's not including any of
the telecom company data.

1595
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,640
PATRICK: Okay, so what's
the collection in Russia?

1596
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,635
SNOWDEN: Russia
is 1.5 billion.

1597
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,358
Wait, so we're collecting
twice as much

1598
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:29,032
in the U.S.
as we are in Russia?

1599
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,256
Yeah, I figured it
was a lot, but...

1600
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,510
GABRIEL: This shit
is out of hand, man.

1601
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,670
Wait. Have you shown
this to anyone else?

1602
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,518
No, you guys
are the first.

1603
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,835
Yeah, yeah, you know,
I'd be careful about that.

1604
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,936
You know, it could seem
like you're rocking the boat.

1605
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,016
SNOWDEN: Yeah, you're right.

1606
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,235
No, I just, uh,
I needed to know

1607
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,629
if I was the only one that
thought this was crazy.

1608
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:48,713
TREVOR: What the fuck's
going on?

1609
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,835
CATFISH: Hey, Trev.

1610
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:50,960
What are you doing
in here?

1611
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,336
It's nothing.
I was just showing them

1612
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,794
this one slide,
I needed some input.

1613
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,995
Why the heat map?

1614
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,718
It's my bad, Trev.

1615
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,791
I made a bet with Ed
about which country

1616
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:02,474
we were collecting
the most signals from.

1617
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,471
He said Iran,
I said Pakistan.

1618
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:06,993
Who won?

1619
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:08,755
Ed.

1620
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:09,880
(SOFT CHUCKLE)

1621
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,630
GABRIEL: Yeah, I need to
head out. I'll see you guys.

1622
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,976
You're going
down next time, man.

1623
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,115
Yeah, okay.

1624
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:18,918
No more bets.

1625
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,000
And I don't want anyone
unauthorized in here again.

1626
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,513
Especially not
with Heartbeat.

1627
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,318
You're right.
Won't happen again.

1628
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:30,360
(SIGHS)

1629
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,353
ALL: Happy birthday!

1630
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,232
(APPLAUSE AND CHATTER)

1631
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,560
CATFISH:...in Vegas,
looking at Afghanistan.

1632
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,756
So we're running late hours.

1633
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,633
So this blurry object comes
wandering into the strike zone.

1634
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,237
We all knew
that it was a kid.

1635
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:57,520
Poof.

1636
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,920
He's gone.

1637
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,280
We called in for clarification,
and the report came back

1638
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,078
that it was a dog.

1639
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,233
Okay. Fine.

1640
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,998
Shift's long, day and night.
I don't remember.

1641
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,992
But same village,
two, three days later.

1642
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,354
We see the funeral party.

1643
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,635
We knew it was a kid
that they were burying.

1644
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,915
Moms and dads wailing.

1645
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,719
And then the order comes down.
Pretty clear. Hit 'em.

1646
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:24,400
Poof.

1647
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,478
And they are gone
in a cloud of dust.

1648
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,160
I mean, all of them. (CHUCKLING)
The whole fuckin' family.

1649
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,791
But the crazy thing is,

1650
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,711
you come home after work,

1651
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,918
kiss your wife, your kids,
back to work the next day.

1652
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:50,160
Pretty soon, you know,
it just all becomes routine.

1653
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:52,960
(SIGHS)

1654
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:54,513
Fuck that.

1655
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,388
You make it sound criminal, man.
It's war. It's a job.

1656
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,109
Oh, I don't know, man. You
saying jobs can't be criminal?

1657
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,320
Not if you're working
for the government.

1658
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,753
SNOWDEN: You ever hear about
the Nuremberg trials, Trev?

1659
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,358
They weren't that long ago.

1660
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:13,512
Yeah. And we hung
the Nazi big shots, right?

1661
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,515
Yeah, well, the big shots
were the first trial,

1662
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:20,513
but then the next trial
were just the judges,

1663
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,592
and lawyers,
and policemen, and guards,

1664
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:28,276
and ordinary people just doing
their jobs, following orders.

1665
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,596
That's where we got
the Nuremberg principles,

1666
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,798
which then the UN made
into international law,

1667
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:40,351
just in case ordinary jobs
become criminal again.

1668
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:44,914
Just sayin'.

1669
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,433
(DRONE WHIRRING)

1670
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:53,309
(THUD)
(WOMAN SCREAMS)

1671
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,153
(CLAMORING)

1672
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,136
MAN: That's gotta
wake you up. You okay?

1673
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,593
See, I told you
not to grab my hand.

1674
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,512
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1675
01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:13,873
...fucking touch me
anymore.

1676
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,670
MAN: Dude! Dude, are you okay?
WOMAN: Oh, my God.

1677
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,193
LINDSAY:
Ed, are you okay?

1678
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,077
Are you okay, man?
I think he's having a...

1679
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:37,872
LINDSAY: Get away,
don't touch him.

1680
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,160
MAN: Don't touch him, don't touch him.
LINDSAY: Don't...

1681
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:03,555
(SIGHS)

1682
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:12,553
Hey, Ed. How are you?
How's your health?

1683
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,116
Hey, Corbin. Uh...

1684
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,954
It's fine.
Thanks for asking.

1685
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,919
Must be nerve-wracking
living with that condition.

1686
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,231
You wouldn't know it
to look at your numbers.

1687
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,392
Two hundred Chinese IPs down
in your first four months.

1688
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,553
Those are, uh,
internal numbers.

1689
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,235
Your colleague, Trevor,
comes out of the CIA like you.

1690
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,114
He's been, uh, keeping me
informed on your progress.

1691
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,751
(CHUCKLES) It's outstanding work.
Heartbeat as well.

1692
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,552
Thank you. Thanks.
That means a lot.

1693
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,757
Lowell is very pleased.
He, uh, sends his regards.

1694
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:57,628
That's great to hear.

1695
01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,954
He, um...

1696
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,718
He doesn't know about
your heat map conversations,

1697
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,951
or some of the ideas you've
expressed to your colleagues.

1698
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,119
And he's not going to.

1699
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:14,633
Yeah. Uh...

1700
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,473
You know, Heartbeat
is proving a tricky project.

1701
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,516
Collating from
multiple agencies,

1702
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,068
and knowing
where to pull from.

1703
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,357
It has helped to talk
it over with colleagues.

1704
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,233
I believe in you, Ed.

1705
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:35,156
Which is why nothing happened to
you after the derog in Geneva.

1706
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,799
And I'm very grateful
you've looked out for me.

1707
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:39,989
Or after you, uh,

1708
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:45,078
omitted the truth
in your last polygraph.

1709
01:35:47,480 --> 01:35:50,040
What was it you were
withholding exactly?

1710
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:51,915
Hmm?

1711
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:58,439
You remember
that day in class,

1712
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,273
you were talking to us
about the FISA Court?

1713
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,355
You said that they approved
Bush's wiretapping programs.

1714
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,191
Sometimes we're restricted
from telling the whole truth.

1715
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,270
Doesn't give us
permission to lie.

1716
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,431
Come on, Corbin,

1717
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,557
the Director of National
Intelligence just lied to Congress!

1718
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,195
Sorry.

1719
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:31,713
Look at me.

1720
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,273
Did you access
an unauthorized program

1721
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,874
that I did not know about?

1722
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,199
Yes.

1723
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:53,999
It was, uh...

1724
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,797
It was at Geneva.
It was Lindsay.

1725
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,154
I was jealous.

1726
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,240
And I'm sorry.
I never did it again.

1727
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:17,240
Listen, Ed.

1728
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,675
I know it's been up and down with
you and Lindsay since Geneva.

1729
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,672
It's tough to keep any relationship going.
Few of us do.

1730
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,151
So, if it'll give you any peace
of mind, I can assure you,

1731
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,870
she's not sleeping with that
photographer friend of hers.

1732
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,077
If that's what
you're thinking.

1733
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,678
I have to go to
a Five Eyes conference

1734
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,478
in Sydney in
a couple of weeks.

1735
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,790
I'll stop off in Hawaii
on the way back.

1736
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:54,754
Okay?

1737
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:59,193
Okay. Thank you.

1738
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,959
I'll see you soon.

1739
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:17,880
(CELL PHONE RINGING)

1740
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,394
Hey, Dad.

1741
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,073
Good. Did you get the e-mail
that I sent you with the photos?

1742
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:27,760
Uh-huh.

1743
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,320
Well, I was hoping that
you could send me some...

1744
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,399
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

1745
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:41,995
What are you doing?

1746
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:05,240
Sit down.

1747
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,352
Your e-mail is
being monitored.

1748
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:17,195
So?

1749
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:18,955
No, it's different now.

1750
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,508
It's not passive collection,
it's full-take surveillance.

1751
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,474
It's all of your e-mails, calls,
texts, social media, everything.

1752
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,997
It's also possible
that the house is bugged.

1753
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,428
I'm not sure.

1754
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:33,235
By who?

1755
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,398
By a senior officer
at the CIA.

1756
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,994
You in trouble?
Is it the Chinese thing?

1757
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,429
Look, there's things
that I wish I could tell you,

1758
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,399
but I can't because
you could get very hurt.

1759
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,798
What's keeping you safe is
that you don't know anything.

1760
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,950
I'm sorry, I really am.
I didn't want any of this for you.

1761
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:10,436
But I know you would think
I was doing the right thing.

1762
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:18,311
So just listen to me
for a sec, okay?

1763
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,472
When we go back in the house,
everything has to appear normal.

1764
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,676
We're gonna act like
nothing has changed,

1765
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,194
but if you do notice
something that's weird,

1766
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,111
you need to
tell me right away.

1767
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,596
And you're gonna use an encrypted
e-mail that I'm setting up for you.

1768
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:34,035
(EXHALES SHARPLY) Oh, my God,
I don't think I can do this.

1769
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:35,678
Yes, you can.
I know you can.

1770
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,158
Do I even have a choice?

1771
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,872
I'm asking you
to trust me.

1772
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,159
(BIRDS CHIRPING)

1773
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:51,720
And, Linds,
I think it'd be best

1774
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,354
if you went back
to Maryland for a while.

1775
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,749
Tell your parents that I'm
away on a business trip

1776
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,274
and that you're homesick.

1777
01:41:01,480 --> 01:41:03,072
Are you going away?

1778
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,708
Yes. But just
for a little while.

1779
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:14,229
No.

1780
01:41:15,480 --> 01:41:16,480
No, I can't go.

1781
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,993
Please.
Just until I get back.

1782
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:19,195
I can't go.

1783
01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:25,951
You just said that we have to
appear like nothing's changed.

1784
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,630
If both of us left at the same time,
wouldn't that seem suspicious?

1785
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:35,194
(SNIFFLES)

1786
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:41,639
I will do this for you.

1787
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,631
(SOBBING)
But it is the last time.

1788
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:58,918
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

1789
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,672
(SIREN WAILING IN DISTANCE)

1790
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:22,553
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1791
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,154
Yo! Yo, you hear
about Trevor, bro?

1792
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:27,309
No, what?

1793
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,789
You remember that op
to own the Internet in Syria?

1794
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,074
Yeah.
Yeah.

1795
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,628
Trevor and his TAO team
crashed the core router.

1796
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:36,799
Bro, the whole
country's gone dark.

1797
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:38,638
SNOWDEN: Jesus Christ.

1798
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:39,755
TREVOR: Figure it out!

1799
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:40,915
GABRIEL: Poor bastards.

1800
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,077
Okay, I'm gonna, uh...
I gotta get to work.

1801
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,195
Yeah. Yeah, me too.

1802
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:48,912
So, Ed, how's, uh...

1803
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,159
How's Heartbeat coming?

1804
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,029
It's close.

1805
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:55,909
It's very close.

1806
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:57,759
TREVOR: Pull it up
on this monitor.

1807
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,016
MAN: I'm still
trying to access...

1808
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:00,496
Don't tell me you're
involved in this, too?

1809
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,308
Well, Trevor fucking roped me into going
through their zero-day exploit codes.

1810
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,630
This thing is
a fucking mess, man.

1811
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,436
Why did I agree to this?
Good luck.

1812
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,869
PATRICK: This is Patrick...

1813
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,352
What you're gonna
do is you're gonna...

1814
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,552
I told him, I...
Help them.

1815
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:25,995
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

1816
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:35,629
(COMPUTER CHIMES)

1817
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:39,553
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATION)

1818
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,480
TREVOR: Okay.
Get back to work, guys.

1819
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:53,520
No, Patrick, show me.

1820
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:39,976
TREVOR: Talk about
getting hung out to dry.

1821
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:41,718
PATRICK: Yeah. Are we set?

1822
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:43,080
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)

1823
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:44,759
Trouble with the Navy?

1824
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,576
TREVOR: One of those idiots ripped
some bullshit piece of Israeli code

1825
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,976
and jammed it down our payload.
Can you fucking believe that?

1826
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,069
Script kiddies.

1827
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:52,616
TREVOR: I know, I know.
I should have listened to you.

1828
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:53,993
God damn it.
Is this it?

1829
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:55,354
PATRICK: Here.
Yeah, this is it.

1830
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:58,080
TREVOR: I'm gonna make the goddamn
Israelis take the fall for this.

1831
01:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,949
Come on.

1832
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,917
Got it? I'm not taking
the fall for this.

1833
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:15,669
Patrick.

1834
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,792
MAN: Still working on it,
Trev. Hold on.

1835
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:22,240
MAN: Nothing. Still nothing.

1836
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:31,635
(CHUCKLES)

1837
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:34,720
Yeah, but...

1838
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,716
You, uh... You headed
home already?

1839
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:24,076
Yeah. I'm not
feeling so well.

1840
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,151
Might not be in
tomorrow either.

1841
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,439
You know,
Trevor's kind of busy,

1842
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,953
maybe you could
let him know for me?

1843
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,110
Yeah. Yeah, man.
It'd be my pleasure.

1844
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,239
You know,
if you're, uh...

1845
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,760
If you're really not feeling well,
dude, maybe you should, uh,

1846
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:40,078
go back to the States
and see your doctor.

1847
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:43,311
I think that, you know,
folks would understand that.

1848
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,832
That sounds like
a smart thing.

1849
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,920
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)

1850
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:56,399
Take care of yourself.

1851
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:58,314
Yeah, you too, bro.

1852
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,073
(CUBE CLICKING)

1853
01:48:15,480 --> 01:48:16,913
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATION)

1854
01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:20,475
Hey.
Hey.

1855
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,432
You ever play
with one of these?

1856
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,154
Yeah, when I was a kid.

1857
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,595
Yeah. You should try it.
It's hard.

1858
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:35,000
(SCANNER BEEPS)

1859
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:51,439
I can't figure this out.

1860
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,115
(SCANNER BEEPS)

1861
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,478
I don't know
about this.

1862
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,696
Yeah, you gotta start with
the white cross, actually,

1863
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,199
and then you do the corners. Ah.

1864
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:04,760
Oh, man.

1865
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,877
Look, I love these things.
(CHUCKLES)

1866
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:09,279
Hey, have
a good weekend, man.

1867
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:10,839
You too, buddy.
All right.

1868
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:07,794
LAURA: It's live.

1869
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,956
There's a link to
the FISA court order.

1870
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:22,040
(CHUCKLES)

1871
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,829
Well done, Janine.

1872
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,433
I told you
she wasn't a pushover.

1873
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,715
Well, it feels so
goddamn good to be wrong.

1874
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,696
Breaking news tonight. Reports
that through a secret court order,

1875
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,280
the Obama administration is
collecting the phone records

1876
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,032
of millions of
Verizon customers.

1877
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,376
That's been reported by the
Guardian newspaper in the U. K.

1878
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,674
The specific court order shows

1879
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,877
that all the information is going
to the National Security Agency.

1880
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:52,313
(GLEEFUL EXCLAMATION)

1881
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,036
How's that for
mainstream media, Glenn?

1882
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,793
They can't shut this down now.
And we've got four more days of it.

1883
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,990
They have no idea what
they're in store for.

1884
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,160
(CHUCKLES)
That's fantastic!

1885
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,096
MORGAN:...former Speaker of the House is
on the grill tonight and joins me now.

1886
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,475
BLITZER: Another explosive
article has just appeared,

1887
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:07,993
this time in
The Washington Post.

1888
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,150
It's breaking news
that it reveals

1889
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,630
another broad and secret U. S.
government surveillance program.

1890
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:17,315
The Washington Post and the
Guardian in London reporting

1891
01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:18,919
that the NSA and the FBI

1892
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,117
are tapping directly
into the central servers

1893
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,509
of nine leading
Internet companies,

1894
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,194
including Microsoft,
Yahoo, Google, Facebook,

1895
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,192
AOL, Skype, YouTube,
and Apple.

1896
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,510
The Post says
they're extracting audio,

1897
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,433
video, photographs,
e-mails, documents,

1898
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:36,714
and connection logs

1899
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,109
that enable analysts to
track a person 's movements

1900
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,430
and contacts over time.

1901
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,315
OBAMA: In the abstract, you can
complain about Big Brother

1902
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:52,518
and how this is a potential
program run amok.

1903
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,790
But when you actually
look at the details,

1904
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,950
then I think we've struck
the right balance.

1905
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,191
FEMALE REPORTER: U.S. President
Barack Obama staunchly defends

1906
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,475
U.S. government programs,

1907
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,916
insisting that they were
conducted with broad safeguards

1908
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,275
and to protect against abuse.

1909
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,400
GLENN: He reached the conclusion
that what was happening

1910
01:52:12,480 --> 01:52:14,869
inside this really
secretive agency

1911
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,235
uh, was very
threatening and menacing

1912
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,709
to privacy rights,
to Internet freedom,

1913
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,598
to basic political liberty,
not only in the United States,

1914
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,716
but all around the world.

1915
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,515
And he felt it was his duty as
a human being to disclose it.

1916
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,551
Uh, my name's Ed Snowden.
I'm 29 years old.

1917
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,073
I work for
Booz Allen Hamilton

1918
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,675
as an infrastructure analyst
for NSA in Hawaii.

1919
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:50,353
(SPEAKING MANDARIN)

1920
01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:52,351
(SPEAKING GERMAN)

1921
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,198
(SPEAKING ITALIAN)

1922
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:55,878
(SPEAKING JAPANESE)

1923
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:57,752
(SPEAKING RUSSIAN)

1924
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,470
The identity of the man
who sent the Obama...

1925
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:04,758
You can't come forward against the
most powerful intelligence agencies

1926
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,440
in the world without expecting
to have some risk.

1927
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,590
They're just such
powerful adversaries.

1928
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,598
So no one can
meaningfully oppose them.

1929
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:13,789
He did it.

1930
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,713
You know, if they want to get you,
they will get you, in time.

1931
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:17,800
The kid did it!

1932
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,816
SNOWDEN: And it's just gonna get
worse for the next generation,

1933
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,193
as they extend
the capabilities

1934
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:24,795
of this sort of
architecture of oppression.

1935
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:29,192
And you realize that you might
be willing to accept any risk,

1936
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:33,029
as long as the public is able
to make their own decision

1937
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:34,752
about how
this is applied.

1938
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,719
Because even if you haven
't done anything wrong,

1939
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,756
you're being
watched and recorded.

1940
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:40,989
(TELEPHONE RINGING)

1941
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,231
Look, I had access to the
entire intelligence community.

1942
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,551
So, if I had wanted
to harm the U. S.,

1943
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:51,872
you could shut down the entire
surveillance system in an afternoon.

1944
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:55,236
But that was never
my intention.

1945
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,392
And I think anybody
that's making that argument,

1946
01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:02,837
they have to think,
if they were in my position,

1947
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,674
living in Hawaii, in paradise,
and making a ton of money,

1948
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:11,629
what would it take to make
you leave everything behind?

1949
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:17,356
The fear that I think I have
most in regards to the outcome

1950
01:54:17,440 --> 01:54:20,193
for America of
these disclosures

1951
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,475
is that nothing
will change.

1952
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,348
In the coming months and the coming
years, it'll just get worse.

1953
01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:29,000
And then eventually,
at some point,

1954
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:33,153
some new leader
will be elected

1955
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:37,119
who flips the switch,

1956
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:44,038
and the people won't be able to do
anything, by that point, to oppose it.

1957
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,070
And it'll be
turnkey tyranny.

1958
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,200
GLENN: How you holding up?

1959
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,270
Yeah, I'll be fine.

1960
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:55,696
It's you guys that have
to start watching out

1961
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,199
for yourselves now.

1962
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:00,874
You know, if you have
any reason to believe

1963
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:05,556
that you're about to be raided or
intercepted or breached in any way,

1964
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:10,191
you format and destroy
all the data immediately.

1965
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,238
You have
the encrypted backups.

1966
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:15,439
And now, I...

1967
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,352
I no longer have any access
to these files myself.

1968
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,078
You guys have them all.

1969
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:26,189
Uh...

1970
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,478
Keep the focus on the stories,
that's all that matters.

1971
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,158
If you'll excuse me, it's...

1972
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,070
I think we should all get some rest.
We can use it.

1973
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,432
Yeah. I should probably
lay down on a soft bed

1974
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,556
while I still have
one available, right?

1975
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,077
You rest well.
Thank you.

1976
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:50,713
See you tomorrow.
Good night.

1977
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:55,680
(DOOR OPENS)

1978
01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:58,000
(DOOR CLOSES)

1979
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:20,278
(WAVES CRASHING)

1980
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,355
Can you at least tell me
where you're going?

1981
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,557
(BIRDS CHIRPING)

1982
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:38,394
(CHUCKLES)

1983
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:49,798
SNOWDEN: Listen,
I know that I'm...

1984
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:04,794
(ELEVATOR BELL DINGS)

1985
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:07,118
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)

1986
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:09,752
Ewen, I'm on
the second floor.

1987
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:12,599
I don't see Tibbo.

1988
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,235
No. No, no, wait.
Okay. I think I see him.

1989
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:19,235
Shit!

1990
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,269
There's press swarming
all over the hotel.

1991
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,032
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll figure it out.

1992
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,160
I'll stop them with a press
conference or something.

1993
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:30,193
Hey, I'm Glenn.
Look, we really appreciate this.

1994
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,416
We understand you're one of the
best lawyers in Hong Kong.

1995
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:33,475
TIBBO: We'll do our best.

1996
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,518
We're gonna take him to the UN first,
then I prefer not to reveal.

1997
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:37,600
GLENN:
I understand.

1998
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:39,915
Shit. They spotted me.
You guys get going.

1999
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:42,837
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)

2000
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,296
Okay, I will take your questions
in an orderly fashion.

2001
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:46,456
Where is Snowden?
Do you know where he is?

2002
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:48,136
FEMALE REPORTER: Come on,
please let us know!

2003
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:49,229
Did you get them?

2004
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:50,912
Yeah, this is the best
I could do.

2005
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:53,600
You're meeting Tibbo
in five minutes,

2006
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:56,194
on the skybridge
opposite the large mall.

2007
01:57:59,960 --> 01:58:04,192
I've met a lot of astonishing
people in my life, but you...

2008
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:05,508
(BOTH CHUCKLE)

2009
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,675
Okay, laddie.
Off you go.

2010
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,119
I won't let you down.

2011
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,794
You'd make a shitty journalist
without a camera.

2012
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:18,432
Are you sure?
Yeah.

2013
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,792
Okay. That's a great idea.

2014
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:24,680
Thanks.

2015
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,156
Oh! You don't want to
leave your luck behind.

2016
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:30,720
SNOWDEN: Oh.

2017
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,837
I think I'd like you
to have that.

2018
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,270
Thanks for everything.

2019
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:39,029
Thank you.

2020
01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:59,158
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)

2021
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,200
(WHISPERS) I have
a van on the street.

2022
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,391
FEMALE REPORTER: NSA leaker Edward
Snowden has now been charged formally

2023
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:17,235
with espionage, theft, and
conversion of government property.

2024
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,176
(CAMERA SH UTTER CLICKING)
U. S. officials have asked Hong Kong

2025
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:20,713
to detain
the former contractor

2026
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,637
on a provisional
arrest warrant.

2027
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,836
Snowden has been
in Hong Kong since May...

2028
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,117
MALE REPORTER 1: ...remember, that
was back reportedly on May 20th.

2029
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,376
MALE REPORTER 1:... Snowden has checked
out of the luxury hotel in Hong Kong,

2030
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:32,628
where he had been holed up.

2031
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:36,896
TIBBO: You might
turn your eyes away.

2032
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:38,416
FEMALE REPORTER: ...not likely
take action against him

2033
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:39,496
without an arrest
warrant from the U. S.

2034
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,216
MALE REPORTER 2: The Justice Department
had to go to Interpol so that Snowden,

2035
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,496
if he tried to cross a border,
he could be intercepted and detained.

2036
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:45,976
MALE REPORTER 3:
Snowden is still in hiding.

2037
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,000
So again...

2038
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:48,816
MALE REPORTER 4: But the
Americans are now closing in.

2039
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:50,990
They almost certainly know
where he is,

2040
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,714
they just need Hong Kong's
approval to get him.

2041
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:55,576
FEMALE REPORTER 1: The Hong
Kong government does have

2042
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,636
an extradition agreement
with Washington.

2043
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:58,840
But the ultimate decision...

2044
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:02,350
FEMALE REPORTER 2: So the big
question here is, where is he now?

2045
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:03,589
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)

2046
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:08,157
Thank you.
This is Ed. Ed, Mayana.

2047
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:09,912
Hi, Ed. Welcome.
Thank you.

2048
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:11,878
(GREETING IN TAMIL)
SNOWDEN: Thank you.

2049
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:14,711
TIBBO: These are good people.
They won't talk.

2050
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,158
I've been handling their cases for years.
They're like you.

2051
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:19,434
That's so nice.

2052
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:21,637
They're stateless.
Yeah.

2053
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,556
TIBBO: So we're waiting on the UN
application for refugee status.

2054
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:26,755
Yeah.

2055
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,673
Just in case you're arrested,
this is where you can call me.

2056
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:30,795
Yeah.

2057
02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:34,109
Good.

2058
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:36,119
Thank you so much.

2059
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:44,996
You may not feel it,
Ed, but you're not alone.

2060
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:46,949
Thank you.

2061
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,696
FEMALE REPORTER: ...his longtime
girlfriend, Lindsay Mills,

2062
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:52,914
an amateur photographer,

2063
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:54,399
has not been heard from.

2064
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,391
It's believed
she's in seclusion

2065
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:57,993
in her parents' home
in Maryland,

2066
02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,911
and has been questioned
by the FBI

2067
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,911
and remains
under investigation.

2068
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:07,594
MALE REPORTER: Ten days have now gone by,
as the world looks for Edward Snowden.

2069
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:11,070
Rumors have surfaced that a rich
supporter is hiding Snowden

2070
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,510
somewhere in the Hong Kong
hills in a private mansion.

2071
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:42,275
(WOMAN SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON PA)

2072
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,915
MALE REPORTER 1: It is now
confirmed that Edward Snowden

2073
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,309
has boarded a flight
from Hong Kong to Moscow.

2074
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:53,336
FEMALE REPORTER 1: The State
Department is very disappointed

2075
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:54,952
in the authorities
in Hong Kong

2076
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,678
for letting Snowden go.

2077
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:59,376
MALE REPORTER 2: He was accompanied
by a representative from WikiLeaks.

2078
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,551
MALE REPORTER 3: Snowden is trying
to make his way from Russia to Cuba,

2079
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,835
and then to Ecuador
for political asylum.

2080
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:07,216
FEMALE REPORTER 2: Moscow airport
officials say he won't be permitted

2081
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:08,639
to make his connective flight

2082
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:11,154
because the U. S. government
has revoked his passport.

2083
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,959
MALE REPORTER 4: The United States
Secretary of State, John Kerry,

2084
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,919
outraged that Russia is refusing
to arrest the American fugitive.

2085
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:22,152
MALE REPORTER 5: Now a man without a country
stranded inside the Moscow airport.

2086
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:24,913
No, I'm not gonna
be scrambling jets, uh,

2087
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:29,596
to get a 29-year-old hacker.

2088
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:32,696
FEMALE REPORTER 3: The
President of Bolivia's plane

2089
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:34,995
was forced down in
Austria airspace today

2090
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:39,358
following U. S. suspicions that
Snowden may have been on board.

2091
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,795
MALE REPORTER 6: After
39 days in the airport hotel,

2092
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:44,314
he's left with his Russian
lawyer and a legal advisor

2093
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,516
from WikiLeaks,
Sarah Harrison.

2094
02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:50,198
MALE REPORTER 7: He can now enjoy
all of the sweet, sweet liberty

2095
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:53,431
allowed under the regime
of President Vladimir Putin.

2096
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,717
TRUMP: There is still
a thing called execution.

2097
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,176
Mr. Snowden
actually deserves asylum

2098
02:02:58,200 --> 02:02:59,474
and protection
around the globe.

2099
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:02,717
But he does have asylum
in Russia at least.

2100
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,791
He can engage in
the debate he started.

2101
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:06,714
And the world
now has an example

2102
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:08,040
that you can do
the right thing,

2103
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:11,874
and you don't have to end up
in a cage, one room, a prison.

2104
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:17,157
MALE REPORTER: After more than a year
in the country under temporary asylum,

2105
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:21,631
Edward Snowden has received a
three-year residency permit in Russia.

2106
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,037
MALE MODERATOR: And now,
here live from Moscow,

2107
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:34,912
Edward Snowden.
(APPLAUSE)

2108
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,157
Hi, Ed. How you doing?

2109
02:03:43,560 --> 02:03:44,993
SNOWDEN: (ON SPEAKERS)
Thank you.

2110
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:47,995
Uh, forgive me if I get my
bearings a little bit here.

2111
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:50,548
People always said
I was kind of a robot.

2112
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:51,789
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)

2113
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:54,554
MODERATOR: How is it that
you came to be in Russia?

2114
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:56,912
Well, I never intended
to come here.

2115
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:00,913
You know, my passport was revoked
en route to Latin America.

2116
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,639
So when people say,
"Why are you in Russia?"

2117
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,598
I say,
"Ask the State Department."

2118
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:11,035
Does that mean you're willing
to go back and face trial?

2119
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:15,633
Absolutely, if it was
a fair and public trial.

2120
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,033
Unfortunately, that's not
what would happen right now,

2121
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:23,193
as long as the Espionage Act is
being used against whistleblowers.

2122
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:26,516
MODERATOR: Do you still
think it was worth it?

2123
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:27,635
Yes, I do.

2124
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:31,633
Without the information
to start a public debate,

2125
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,119
we're lost.
You know...

2126
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:37,269
The people being able
to question our government

2127
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,954
and hold it accountable,

2128
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:44,955
that's the principle that the United
States of America was founded on.

2129
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:48,789
So if we want to protect
our national security,

2130
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,314
we should be protecting
that principle.

2131
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,235
MODERATOR: What if your
argument falls on deaf ears?

2132
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,629
What if our leaders
don't act?

2133
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:01,671
I believe that,
if nothing changes,

2134
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:07,231
more and more people all over
the world will come forward.

2135
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:12,914
Whistleblowers and journalists,
but also regular citizens.

2136
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:19,596
And when those in power try to
hide by classifying everything,

2137
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,193
we will call them out on it.

2138
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:29,477
And when they try to scare us into
sacrificing our basic human rights,

2139
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,835
we won't be intimidated,

2140
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:36,590
and we won't give up,
and we will not be silenced.

2141
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:40,071
You're alone in
a foreign country,

2142
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:43,391
you'll be extradited
if you try to leave.

2143
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:45,152
That must be hard.

2144
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:01,229
When I left Hawaii,
I lost everything.

2145
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:06,836
And I had a stable life.

2146
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:08,599
(CHUCKLES)

2147
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,996
A stable love.

2148
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:13,991
Family. Future.

2149
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,631
And I lost that life,

2150
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:22,636
but I've gained
a new one,

2151
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:26,951
and I'm incredibly
fortunate.

2152
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:30,719
And I think

2153
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:34,160
the greatest freedom
that I've gained

2154
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,835
is the fact that I no longer have to
worry about what happens tomorrow,

2155
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:40,309
because I'm happy with
what I've done today.

2156
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:48,753
Live from the Internet,
Edward Snowden!

2157
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:50,512
(APPLAUSE)

2158
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:53,991
(CHEERING AND WHISTLING)

2159
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:08,456
MALE REPORTER: Has your
mindset changed about him?

2160
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,553
Is he now more whistleblower
than he is a, uh, hacker?

2161
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,976
MALE REPORTER: What is going
to happen to Edward Snowden?

2162
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,719
He's going to die in Moscow.
He's not coming home.

2163
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:34,995
Edward Snowden,
is he a traitor or a hero?

2164
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:38,351
HILLARY CLINTON: He stole
very important information.

2165
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:58,336
MALE REPORTER: We have
breaking news tonight...

2166
02:09:58,360 --> 02:09:59,360
Among the reforms,

2167
02:09:59,440 --> 02:10:02,113
work with Congress to change how
the NSA collects phone records.

2168
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,754
Mandate more transparency
by the secret court

2169
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,910
that regularly approves
the surveillance.

2170
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,796
MAN: Well, is it
a victory for Edward Snowden?

2171
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:13,720
That's gonna depend
on the eye of the beholder.

2172
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,936
LINCOLN CHAFFEE: The American
government was acting illegally.

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HILLARY CLINTON: I don't think he should
be brought home without facing the music.

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SANDERS: Snowden played
a very important role

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in educating
the American people

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to the degree in which our civil
liberties and our constitutional rights

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are being undermined.

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