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Does the red light mean it's on, yeah?

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- Yeah.
- Pour a few glasses at me.

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I've had about four fucking
coffees today, man,

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and they've fucking proper knocked me out.

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What the fuck's going on?

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Now I'm fucking double tired,
it's like, come on.

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All right, how are we doing
in there, are we good?

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Yeah, we're rolling,
I'm just going to do a sync pip.

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Okay, lovely.

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So, what do you think
looking back at that time

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because it was, like,
two-and-a-half years really,

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from being signed to playing Knebworth.

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What happened to that band?
What happened to you in those three years?

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Sorry, that was a big question.

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It is a big question,
and it deserves a big answer.

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RAs Oasis gears up to rock
a quarter of a million fans,

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we're live from Knebworth.

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By Sunday night, Oasis will have played

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to more than a third of a million people
in just over one week.

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Hi, this is Jo Whiley
welcoming you to a rather special event,

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the live gig of the decade.

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In just over three years, Oasis
will have gone from being a new signing

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to one of rock's true giants.

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Oasis! Oasis! Oasis!

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Three, two, one!

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Are we not playing a game?

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Oasis was definitely like a fucking Ferrari.

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Great to look at, great to drive,

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and it would fucking spin out of control
every now and again when you go too fast.

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We were just lads from a council estate.

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Two brothers, head cases.

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Oasis' greatest strength
was the relationship between me and Liam.

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It's also what drove the band
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you know what I mean?

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# There we were, now here we are

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# All this confusion

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# Nothing's the same to me

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# There we were, now here we are

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# All this confusion

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# Nothing's the same to me

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# I can't tell you the way I feel because

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# The way I feel is oh so new to me

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# I can't tell you the way I feel because

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# The way I feel is oh so new to me #

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For me, music, I wasn't into it until, like,

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when I was about 16 or 17 maybe.

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Anyone with a guitar, or in a band

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I thought was a bit suspect,
you know what I mean?

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And like, I'd hurl abuse at them.

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I used to share a room with Noel.

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A bit of a stoner, a bit of a loner.

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You know, he had a guitar,
so he was copping for it,

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you know what I mean?

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Always very quiet, Noel.

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Always in his room
with a piece of paper and a pen

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and he'd be writing.

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Always strumming the guitar.

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Many is the time I went up
and I knocked that guitar and said,

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"Bloody guitar, you get on my bloody nerves!"

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Yeah, I mean,
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you got into another world.

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What would you want to go out for?

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Everything I ever wanted in life
was coming out of the speakers.

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I don't know why me and Liam
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We both had the same childhood,
do you know what I mean?

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He was a devil, Liam.

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Full of it, yeah.

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Total attention seeker.

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Robbing your clothes, robbing your records,
robbing your this, robbing your that.

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Robbing your money.

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Definitely a bit of a show-off,

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but not to the point where it's,
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you know, Bonnie Langford,
do you know what I mean?

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Or one of them little fucking brats
with jazz hands.

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Well, Liam was, allegedly,
he was the cock of the school.

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No one messed with him.

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I think one day some rival school turned up
and boshed him on the head with a hammer.

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We were stood there having a cig

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and I remember all these lads coming down.

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These kids pulled out this little fucking
hammer and went whack on my head.

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Blood everywhere.

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Got out of fucking double Maths,
so that was all right.

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I've got a perfect alibi for that,
so it's nothing to do with me!

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From that day on,
and I know it sounds stupid,

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but it was like as if something had fucking
clicked, do you know what I mean?

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You know, I started hearing music,

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it started making sense,
you know what I mean?

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So, whoever he is, thank you.

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Somebody hammered the music into him.

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He's got a fucking lot to answer for,
hasn't he?

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All my life as it existed then was,
like going to sign on,

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getting my cash, cashing my dole,

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going to the Sifters, getting a record,

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buying some weed, going into Greggs,

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going back home and fucking blasting it out
and getting soaked in it.

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I was just obsessed with being in a band.

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Just ob-fucking-sessed, man.

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Actually, I never thought
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until he used to sit out there
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"I'm going to be famous one day," he said.

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"And you're going to be really proud of me."
I said, "Am I?"

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I said, "Well, I hope it's before
I start pushing up daisies."

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"Because we need the money now!"

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And then of course,
Bonehead started coming round,

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and Tony McCarroll and Guigsy.

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That's when Liam formed the band.

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I knew Bonehead and I knew Guigs,

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and they were in a band called The Rain.

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They'd heard I was cool,

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and I'd had my epiphany,
and all that bollocks.

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Someone in passing just said,
"You know, Liam wanted to be in a band."

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Liam came round my house.

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His voice was just like, "Whoa!"
You know, it's like, "Yeah!"

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# I used to live my life in vain

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# Until today it's been the same

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# I've gone away... #

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It wasn't the Liam we all know.

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A bit more softer, a lot more melodic.

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And obviously his look. I mean, he looked
like Liam's always looked, you know.

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He had a great haircut, great walk.

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"I'll have a bit of that."

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He went, "Right, look,
do you want to be in this band?"

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I says, "Yeah, but we'll have to change that
fucking name though 'cause it's terrible."

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There was a poster in our room
for the Inspiral Carpets.

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It certainly wasn't about Swindon Oasis.

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It was like, you know,
there was a kebab shop called Oasis.

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There was a fucking taxi rank called Oasis.

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That fucking name keeps coming up, "Oasis".

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We were, kind of,
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I just thought, "Oasis", that was good, man.

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I'm not in Oasis at this point.

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I'm not in a band,
I've no intention of being in a band.

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I'm just part of a road crew
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trying not to get sacked from this job

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because I fucking blagged my way into it
and I'm an absolute chancer.

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The main thing was, like,
getting Noel in the band.

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Good morning!

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He was a songwriter.

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He's a tight bastard!

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I'm okay with me.

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In my head, I thought, "He'll come off tour

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"when he sees that we're doing it
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"he'll want to join our band
and he'll do the business."

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I've done a couple of tours of America.

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I'd been to Argentina.

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I'd been to Japan.

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So as far as they went, I went with them.

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I met Mark Coyle,
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smoking weed and doing the monitors.

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That's how I met Noel,
pulling this fucking face

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because this is his thing.

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He's the roadie for that band.

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And as soon as we started talking
we were, fucking, best mates straightaway.

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If there's one thing I'd remember about Noel,

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is that he never had a fucking dirty hand.

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But he loved that band.

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They were all terrified of him.

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Yeah, he was just the boss all the way,
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I thought we were great.

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I mean, clearly we weren't
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separately got fired by the band,

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for being unprofessional

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and somewhat unapproachable
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Lazy cunts!

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Yeah!

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I'd like to thank the Inspiral Carpets
for sacking him. Well done!

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We had some great, funny fucking times.

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I wasn't sitting at the side of the stage,
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"One day, this is going to be me."

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I thought that I'd arrived at that point
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I thought, "This will fucking do me,"
do you know what I mean?

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I was doing a gig in Munich.

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I was somebody sound-checking a bass drum.
Boom.

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One, two. What's sibilance?

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I used to phone home on a Sunday,
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It's Noel.

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On the phone? Just a minute.
I'll get it out here. Hello?

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How are you, Noel?

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- Are you all right?
- Yeah.

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Just doing Liam's washing for him.

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Doing his dirty washing for him.

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But, anyway, we were chatting
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and then I said, "How's Liam?"

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"Oh, he's out rehearsing."

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"What for? He's not joined the
Shakespeare fucking group, has he?"

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"Oh, no, he's in a band."

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"What? Doing what?"

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"He's the singer."
"He's the singer? He can't fucking sing."

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"Oh, I don't know now.
He said he's the singer."

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And that was it,
and then I, kind of, got home

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and our Paul's going,
"Oh, yeah, he's in this band.

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"They're pretty fucking good, you know."

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And then they were playing
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on at the Boardwalk.

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And I went down to see them.

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# Take me, when I'm young and true

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# Was it me or was it you?

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# Take me, when I'm not so strong

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# Why has it taken you so long? #

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I was like, "Wow, fucking hell!
I'm pretty impressed."

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They had their own songs,
and Liam didn't look that out of place.

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The first thing they said when they
come up to me was, "What did you think?"

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I said, "It was fucking great,"

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and they said, "We were thinking,
would you fancy being our manager?"

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I was like, "What?
What the fuck are they talking about? No."

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And they were, like, "Because you know
loads of people, and all that."

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"Not sure about that.
I think you'd get a better manager than me."

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And then a couple of weeks later
Liam said, "Come and fucking jam with us."

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You know, so I went and sat in with them

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and I was playing their tunes,
and it was great.

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And then I think the second time I went,

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Liam was going, "Play them
that fucking song that you played us."

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And then once everybody all joined in
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that you've, in inverted commas, "written,"
being played back to you in this room

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and it's like,
"Wow! Fucking hell! That's amazing!"

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It just went from there, really.

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# It's a bit early
in the midnight hour for me

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# To think of all the things I want to be

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# I don't believe in everything I see

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# You know I'm blind, so why do you disagree?

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# Take me away
because I just don't want to stay

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# And the lies you make me say
are getting deeper every day

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# These are crazy days but they make me shine

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# Time keeps rolling by

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# All around the world

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# You've got to spread the word

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# Tell them what you heard

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# Because you know it's going to be okay #

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To hear your own stuff played back,
it was really a mega moment.

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And then it went nowhere for two years.

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So, I mean, there is the myth that I kicked
open the fuckin' rehearsal room door

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to the theme tune from
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly,

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and said, "Everybody, stop what you're doing.
I am here to make us all millionaires."

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You know, It wasn't that at all,
you know what I mean?

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No, the truth is,
he got on his hands and knees and said,

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"Listen, I'll do anything,
just, please, let me be in your band."

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I said, "Get up off your hands and knees,
son. You're all right, you can do it."

239
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I think I've got a picture of it somewhere.

240
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For that 18 months to two years,
we never gave up.

241
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If nothing else, we were dedicated.

242
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Yeah, I loved it. I loved it.

243
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That was when we were on our own for a bit,

244
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when everyone was in the hacienda
popping pills and that,

245
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and all my mates would be
knocking on the door going,

246
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"What are you doing now?"

247
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"I'm going down
to the fucking rehearsal room."

248
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The whole fucking city was like
just immersed in this music

249
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that didn't make sense to me,
you know what I mean?

250
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We weren't the best musicians,
but we had spirit, man,

251
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and that was lacking massively at that point.

252
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I always thought that we were greater
than the sum of our parts,

253
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you know what I mean?

254
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Bonehead?

255
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He was kind of the glue
that held it all together.

256
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God bless him.

257
00:15:58.640 --> 00:16:01.484
If anything, I'd say Bonehead
was the spirit of Oasis.

258
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He's a top musician and all, Bonehead.
He's like, he can play anything,

259
00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.200
but he's a mental cunt
and I loved his mad side.

260
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So me and him would get up to mad
shit together, you know what I mean?

261
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Guigsy? Guigs brought a calmness to it all.

262
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He never got flustered.

263
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He loved cricket and Doctor Who,
and weed and Man City.

264
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I'd say fifth after that was being in Oasis.

265
00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:25.363
I'd say that came a lowly fifth.

266
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Guigsy, chilled out motherfucker, man.

267
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Lovely lad, but just a complete
and utter fucking stoner.

268
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Tony was a person that I shared a room
in the early days, you know,

269
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and I really, really got on with Tony.
Really nice person.

270
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Very Irish in his ways, you know,
came from a massive Irish family.

271
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Definitely the quiet one.

272
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The one who was most reserved.

273
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None of them lot had kids,
none of them had responsibility.

274
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I had a different outlook on life.

275
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I always had my daughter
in the back of my head.

276
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That moulded me.

277
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Oasis was going for about maybe six months,
a year,

278
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and I was writing songs just to amuse myself,

279
00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.327
and then one night, I went down with a song
and everything changed

280
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# Maybe I don't really want to know

281
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# How your garden grows

282
00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:33.651
# Because I just want to fly

283
00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:39.805
# Lately, did you ever feel the pain?

284
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# In the morning rain

285
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# As it soaks you to the bone

286
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# Maybe I just want to fly

287
00:17:52.040 --> 00:17:55.520
# I want to live, I don't want to die

288
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# Maybe I just want to breathe

289
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# Maybe I just don't believe

290
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# Maybe you're the same as me

291
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# We see things they'll never see

292
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# You and I, we're gonna live forever #

293
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Bonehead, he was saying,
"You've not just fucking written that.

294
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"That's no way that's your song."

295
00:18:19.520 --> 00:18:20.600
Well, I wouldn't believe it.

296
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For someone to come in a room and just go,

297
00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.280
"Oh, I'll play you one of my songs,"
and then play you Live Forever,

298
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it's like, "Fuck off!

299
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"You didn't write that."
He said, "Why didn't I?"

300
00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:29.000
I said, "Because listen to it!"

301
00:18:29.080 --> 00:18:31.760
You know, I thought, "Wow! What a song!
You didn't write it."

302
00:18:31.840 --> 00:18:33.360
"Yeah, I did." "No, you didn't."

303
00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.560
I knew enough about music and about songs
to know that that was a great song,

304
00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:39.720
and then one followed another.

305
00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:41.520
And it's like, "No, this happening now.

306
00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:45.047
"And even if no one else takes any notice
of it, this is happening."

307
00:18:45.800 --> 00:18:47.760
I didn't really get involved
with the music kind of thing.

308
00:18:47.840 --> 00:18:49.760
I was, like, "Look, that's your thing,
you do that.

309
00:18:49.840 --> 00:18:52.650
"I'll just be cool as fuck over there."

310
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Once they were in a band

311
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I knew they weren't going to listen to me
about steady jobs.

312
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They were up and down the country,
and I would say,

313
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"Oh, you might be lucky tonight."

314
00:19:00.840 --> 00:19:02.480
And I'd say to Noel, "Any luck, Noel?"

315
00:19:02.560 --> 00:19:05.400
"No." Then they'd go off again
somewhere else.

316
00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:07.403
I spend my life worrying about them.

317
00:19:09.800 --> 00:19:13.440
We didn't have one single paragraph
written about us, ever.

318
00:19:13.520 --> 00:19:15.200
No one even said we were shit.

319
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Completely and utterly fucking ignored.

320
00:19:17.320 --> 00:19:20.080
I kind of had a feeling it'd happened, man.

321
00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.280
I don't know what the consequences
would have been without it happening

322
00:19:23.360 --> 00:19:24.880
because it was, like, if it didn't happen,

323
00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.247
the world would be black,
do you know what I mean?

324
00:19:28.280 --> 00:19:33.920
We were sharing a rehearsal room
with an all-girl band called Sister Lovers.

325
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Unbeknown to us, one of the girls
in the band, Debbie Turner,

326
00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.440
God bless Debbie,
was an ex-girlfriend of Alan McGee's,

327
00:19:40.520 --> 00:19:44.200
the head of the coolest record label
in England.

328
00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:45.680
We were asking her what they're up to

329
00:19:45.760 --> 00:19:47.808
and they were saying,
"We're going up to do this gig."

330
00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.280
I think I was probably
being quite cocky actually in saying,

331
00:19:51.360 --> 00:19:53.760
"Oi, Noel, we're playing in Glasgow,"

332
00:19:53.840 --> 00:19:57.880
which, then, for an unsigned band
to get a gig outside Manchester,

333
00:19:57.960 --> 00:19:59.769
that was like playing Glastonbury.

334
00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:04.007
And we were like, "Well, how the fuck
have you got a gig and not us?"

335
00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.000
She said, "Why don't you come with us?

336
00:20:06.080 --> 00:20:07.320
"Be on the bill, kind of thing."

337
00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.440
And we were like, "Yeah, Glasgow?
Fuck it, let's do it."

338
00:20:10.520 --> 00:20:11.800
For the pure love of it.

339
00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:16.400
"If we all put in £25 each,
we can hire a splitter van

340
00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:21.168
"and get up there, kip in the van,
do the gig, get back. Yay!"

341
00:20:21.600 --> 00:20:22.680
So we hired a van out,

342
00:20:22.760 --> 00:20:25.520
smoking weed, all that nonsense, drinking.

343
00:20:25.600 --> 00:20:27.040
You know one of them days where you just go,

344
00:20:27.120 --> 00:20:28.800
"It's fucking going to be the day today."

345
00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.440
Maybe it was the drugs or something.

346
00:20:30.520 --> 00:20:33.680
We get there really early
and we say, "We're Oasis from Manchester.

347
00:20:33.760 --> 00:20:34.880
"We've come here to play tonight."

348
00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:36.520
And the guy says,
"There's no band down here."

349
00:20:36.600 --> 00:20:38.240
I said, "Yeah, yeah, it's all right,
we're with Debbie."

350
00:20:38.320 --> 00:20:40.402
And he's like,
"No, no, no, no, no fucking way."

351
00:20:40.840 --> 00:20:44.760
I think we said, "Well, if they're not
playing, we're not going to play.

352
00:20:44.840 --> 00:20:46.560
"We'll do a really short set,"

353
00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.920
which wasn't hard 'cause I think
we only had five songs anyway.

354
00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.241
Then Oasis were allowed to play.

355
00:20:56.600 --> 00:20:59.560
So we went on, we got to do four songs

356
00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:01.165
and we didn't think anything of it.

357
00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:07.080
Debbie didn't even know
that I was coming up to that gig.

358
00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.080
I'd been an evil, twisted fucker.

359
00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:11.811
I thought that I would show up
to put her on edge.

360
00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.162
# What was that sound
ringing around your brain?

361
00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:35.800
# Today was just a blur

362
00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:38.963
# You've got a head like a ghost train

363
00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:43.000
# You're the outcast

364
00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:46.120
# You're the underclass

365
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.520
# But you don't care

366
00:21:49.600 --> 00:21:51.523
# Because you're living fast #

367
00:21:51.760 --> 00:21:56.163
At the end, there was just loads of feedback
and a smattering of applause.

368
00:21:57.840 --> 00:22:01.760
I really do believe some things
are meant to fucking be.

369
00:22:01.840 --> 00:22:04.080
I was standing there
with my kid sister, Susan.

370
00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:05.600
She immediately went,
"You should sign these,"

371
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:07.760
and I'm like, "Let's see the second song."

372
00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:09.520
And it's like, "I'm signing these!"

373
00:22:09.600 --> 00:22:11.807
And the third song,
"I'm definitely signing these!"

374
00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:14.961
And I, sort of like,
went up to Noel and I said,

375
00:22:15.320 --> 00:22:16.920
"I'm Alan McGee. Do you want a record deal?"

376
00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:18.160
And I said, "Who with?"

377
00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:21.289
And he went, "Creation Records,"
and I kind of recognised him.

378
00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:22.401
And that was it!

379
00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:44.802
I don't remember anybody
high-fiving in the back of the van

380
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:46.560
thinking, "Hurray, this is it!"

381
00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.400
I remember going back to Manchester

382
00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:50.880
and getting in to where
I was living, you know,

383
00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:52.530
at, what, 6:00 in the morning.

384
00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.242
And my then missus, Louise,
was getting ready to go to work.

385
00:22:56.800 --> 00:22:58.240
And I said,

386
00:22:58.320 --> 00:23:00.120
"Creation Records
have offered us a record deal,"

387
00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:01.640
and she started crying.

388
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:05.042
She knew then that, you know,
that was going to be the end of us.

389
00:23:07.120 --> 00:23:10.480
I remember the day he came back
and told me he had the record deal.

390
00:23:10.560 --> 00:23:12.560
And of course I thought, "Oh, this is great."

391
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:15.520
I never really thought
it would go the way it did though.

392
00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:19.810
Liam says, "All I want, Mum,
is to earn a bit of money," he says,

393
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.840
"and get myself some new clothes."

394
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:24.285
And then it went haywire.

395
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.040
Mum was an angel, still is.

396
00:23:28.120 --> 00:23:31.886
Not impressed by all this
rock 'n roll business, and rightly so.

397
00:23:33.280 --> 00:23:35.520
You know, when I think of those times,
do you know what I mean,

398
00:23:35.600 --> 00:23:38.080
she kind of brought us up on her own, really.

399
00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.000
And three lads,
particularly one of them being Liam,

400
00:23:41.080 --> 00:23:42.080
it was very tricky.

401
00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:44.401
I mean, she gave it all up for us,
you know what I mean?

402
00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:46.120
I wanted to make her proud.

403
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.000
I wanted to get her to stop from doing,
like, three fucking jobs

404
00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:51.765
and put her feet up, you know what I mean,
and have nice things.

405
00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.083
I hated it when I came over here first.

406
00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.040
It was a big shock, I'm telling you,
to come to a big city like Manchester.

407
00:24:00.120 --> 00:24:02.720
Oh, I must have cried for about six months.

408
00:24:02.800 --> 00:24:05.690
It was after the New Year,
I think it was 1963.

409
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.843
I went to the carousel and met him there.

410
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:10.080
Tommy Gallagher.

411
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.160
We got married
after about nine or ten months.

412
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:14.240
And that was it!

413
00:24:14.320 --> 00:24:15.685
He was lovely when I met him, like.

414
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:20.440
Paul arrived ten months after I was married.

415
00:24:20.520 --> 00:24:22.966
Then Noel arrived a year after that again.

416
00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:26.000
We were dressed identical.

417
00:24:26.080 --> 00:24:28.040
She used to knit our clothes.

418
00:24:28.120 --> 00:24:31.360
So you can imagine, you've got no choice.
You couldn't say, "I don't like them, Mum,"

419
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.523
because she's just spent four years
knitting you a jumper.

420
00:24:34.760 --> 00:24:38.680
Liam arrived five-and-a-half years after,
which was great.

421
00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:41.240
Well, that was the best time with the kids.

422
00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:45.720
I don't know, I think there was always
that bit of jealousy with Liam and Noel.

423
00:24:45.800 --> 00:24:48.760
I idolised Paul and Noel
because there were only the two of them,

424
00:24:48.840 --> 00:24:51.440
and Noel was absolutely beautiful
when he was a baby,

425
00:24:51.520 --> 00:24:55.360
and then, of course, Liam comes along,
takes the limelight off you.

426
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:56.680
He probably thought, "Urgh!"

427
00:24:56.760 --> 00:24:59.570
But you could tell the disagreements
that were there with them.

428
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.520
I was glad they were together in a band.

429
00:25:02.600 --> 00:25:05.444
I would not have wanted Liam
in a band without Noel.

430
00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:08.887
But it all happened too quick,

431
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.525
just too quick altogether.

432
00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:14.049
Good evening, Great Britain!

433
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:16.485
Hello!

434
00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.290
Oasis, are you down there?

435
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:20.960
- We certainly are.
- Do you fancy having a bit of a chat?

436
00:25:21.040 --> 00:25:22.040
Go on then.

437
00:25:22.120 --> 00:25:25.280
"Go on then." There's a story about
you lot getting signed to Creation.

438
00:25:25.360 --> 00:25:27.360
Alan McGee saw you in a club in Glasgow.
Is that right?

439
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:28.920
Don't believe the hype.

440
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.120
No, he did, yeah.

441
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:32.520
There was like seven people there, I think,
and he was two of them.

442
00:25:32.600 --> 00:25:33.600
Right.

443
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.200
And he signed us there and then, on the spot.

444
00:25:35.280 --> 00:25:36.280
Was he drunk?

445
00:25:36.360 --> 00:25:39.440
He actually thinks
we're the greatest band in the fucking world.

446
00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:43.047
He's phoned me up,
about fucking 5:00 in the morning,

447
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:44.200
going, "You know, man,

448
00:25:44.280 --> 00:25:47.807
"we're going to annihilate
the fucking world, man!"

449
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.000
McGee wanted
Bring It On Down to be the first single

450
00:25:52.080 --> 00:25:54.040
and I was fine with that, I love that song.

451
00:25:54.120 --> 00:25:55.320
They're just... It's punk.

452
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:57.560
"You're the outcast, you're the underclass.

453
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.560
"You don't care, but you're living fast."

454
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:00.800
I just loved it.

455
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.440
I can't say why Bring It On Down was chosen,

456
00:26:04.520 --> 00:26:06.600
but it wasn't coming together.

457
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:08.887
I don't know what the fuck
was wrong with it, like.

458
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.960
I mean, it would become apparent
why that session didn't work.

459
00:26:12.040 --> 00:26:16.887
It's because our drummer at the time
wasn't the most consistent

460
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:21.400
from one fucking bar to the next,
never mind one day to the next.

461
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.080
And that's his big moment,
that, a fucking riff.

462
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.162
"Just fucking do it in time, son."

463
00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:30.240
Fucking hell, we're up against it here.

464
00:26:30.320 --> 00:26:32.600
We'd not recorded anything.

465
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:35.160
Why I chose to write a new song

466
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:39.200
as opposed to record any of the
others off of Definitely Maybe

467
00:26:39.280 --> 00:26:40.691
is still a little bit of a mystery.

468
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.400
Noel's got the riff, but that's all he's got,

469
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:52.640
so they're just kind of
knocking this little thing,

470
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.680
which all bands do, you know, a little riff.

471
00:26:55.760 --> 00:26:58.200
Someone had sent out for Chinese,
or fish and chips or something.

472
00:26:58.280 --> 00:26:59.600
Or Chinese fish and chips?

473
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:00.886
I went in the back room

474
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.080
and, as bizarre as it sounds,
wrote Supersonic

475
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:09.007
in about however long it takes
six other guys to eat a Chinese meal.

476
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:12.600
Then he came back in the room with us.

477
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.001
He said,
"Look, I've just written another song."

478
00:27:18.360 --> 00:27:21.360
And we nailed it and mixed it that night.

479
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.640
Rapid, because that's what we'd been doing
every night in the Boardwalk, you know,

480
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.245
and it sounded massive.

481
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:32.325
Give it up for Oasis, making
their TV debut with Supersonic.

482
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:37.360
# I need to be myself

483
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.364
# I can't be no one else

484
00:27:42.320 --> 00:27:45.080
# I'm feeling supersonic

485
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.560
# Give me gin and tonic

486
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.120
# You can have it all

487
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.851
# But how much do you want it?

488
00:27:52.520 --> 00:27:53.760
# You make me laugh...

489
00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:56.680
We'd done gigs before that
and there were people coming along

490
00:27:56.760 --> 00:27:58.000
because they'd read about us in the press.

491
00:27:58.080 --> 00:27:59.969
But nobody knew any of the songs.

492
00:28:00.600 --> 00:28:02.602
On the day that Supersonic came out,

493
00:28:02.800 --> 00:28:04.320
bang, the crowd were right there,

494
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.880
and I remember people
singing the lyrics to Supersonic.

495
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.840
You know, they're singing your words back
that you've nonsensically wrote down

496
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.570
at fucking 3:00 in the morning.

497
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:17.120
# You need to find a way
for what you want to say

498
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.885
# But before tomorrow

499
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:24.569
# 'Cause my friend said he'd take you home

500
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:29.283
# He sits in a corner all alone

501
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:34.080
# He lives under a waterfall

502
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.120
# Nobody can see him

503
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.160
# Nobody can ever hear him call... #

504
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.481
We'd play a town,
we'd go off and do the next, do the next,

505
00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:44.570
and then come back to that one you did
a few weeks before and do it again.

506
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.489
Trouble seemed to find us at any given point.

507
00:28:49.280 --> 00:28:51.520
We're barred from a full chain of hotels

508
00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:53.841
and honestly, no one would take us anywhere.

509
00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.440
I do remember one hotel,
the whole bedroom went out of the window,

510
00:28:57.520 --> 00:28:59.600
mattress, pillows, everything.

511
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.045
If it moves, fling it.

512
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:02.681
Poof.

513
00:29:02.840 --> 00:29:05.920
I could never understand it, you know,
hotel rooms being smashed up.

514
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.720
That's like hard work.

515
00:29:07.800 --> 00:29:09.200
You'd get a sweat on.

516
00:29:09.280 --> 00:29:10.920
What do you do?
Go to bed at 10:00 every night?

517
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.800
I don't think so, you know what I mean?
You only get it once.

518
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.880
You're going to live it to the full.

519
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:17.405
Have it! And we did!

520
00:29:18.040 --> 00:29:20.640
You can't ask a 21-year-old lad
to be professional, it's like...

521
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.485
It's like, "I don't even understand
that word, what are you on about?"

522
00:29:23.840 --> 00:29:26.240
You're feeling Supersonic? Go to bed at 9:30!

523
00:29:26.320 --> 00:29:29.480
"Give me gin and tonic"?
Get my head down at about 10:30.

524
00:29:29.560 --> 00:29:31.562
Fuck off, mate, you know what I mean?

525
00:29:44.280 --> 00:29:46.960
There was something
very different about this band.

526
00:29:47.040 --> 00:29:52.000
It just had a devilish, belligerent,
filthy little sound to it.

527
00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:55.084
Coyle could really mix sound in little clubs.

528
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.160
He was really good at making
it sound fucking epic.

529
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:02.200
Noel, I didn't understand
what "Feeling Supersonic" meant,

530
00:30:02.280 --> 00:30:05.600
but I'm with you, whatever it is,
I'd die for you right now.

531
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.524
That's how I felt about Oasis.

532
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:09.880
Thank you very much.

533
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.720
Did you get your friends
working for you then,

534
00:30:11.800 --> 00:30:13.000
so you can tour around in a big group?

535
00:30:13.080 --> 00:30:14.525
No, it's just so we can exploit them.

536
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.840
Thing is, if we didn't have them
working for us when we're away,

537
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:18.920
they'd be burgling our houses.

538
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.160
So it's best to have them
on the road with us.

539
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.760
You're being hyped as the best band
around at the moment.

540
00:30:23.840 --> 00:30:24.841
Is all the hype true?

541
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.600
- Yeah.
- It is? Good.

542
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:31.160
The best band about today on the planet.

543
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:32.241
It's a fact.

544
00:30:33.120 --> 00:30:39.605
# I'd shake along with me...

545
00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:44.600
We're in a band, we're into football,
we're into taking drugs, and meeting women

546
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:45.800
and all the rest of it, right?

547
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.560
We won't deny anything
that's been written about us.

548
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.600
Why should we?
They want to write about it, fine.

549
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:50.720
We're happy with that.

550
00:30:50.800 --> 00:30:52.400
Our music will stand the test of time.
That is a fact.

551
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:53.880
Right, all this media hype

552
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.122
and all this thing about us being this, that,
and the other, right,

553
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:57.960
will be dead in a year's time.

554
00:30:58.040 --> 00:30:59.200
Everyone will have forgotten about it.

555
00:30:59.280 --> 00:31:01.487
The records that we make
will be in the shops forever.

556
00:31:03.080 --> 00:31:05.731
# Shake along with me #

557
00:31:25.320 --> 00:31:26.845
It was a wild tour.

558
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:32.880
At one point, we were going to Amsterdam
to support this band from Wigan, The Verve.

559
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.008
Our first international gig.

560
00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:38.400
So this guy picked us up in a van,
and he's going to be our roadie.

561
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:39.606
Jason Rhodes.

562
00:31:46.280 --> 00:31:48.920
Marcus got in touch and said,
"Right, do you want to go to Amsterdam?"

563
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.640
I went, "Yeah!"

564
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:52.080
Up your bum!

565
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:53.286
I said to him, "All right, nice to meet you.

566
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.080
"Fucking forget that.
Did they give you a float?"

567
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.800
And he said, "No, no, no, that's for petrol."

568
00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:59.120
I said, "Never mind petrol."

569
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.800
And we took the float off him
and then spent about an hour

570
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:03.480
driving around Manchester getting drugs.

571
00:32:03.560 --> 00:32:05.360
And then set off.

572
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:06.600
Get on the ferry.

573
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.971
I don't know how we get on the ferry because
we're pissed, but we get on this ferry.

574
00:32:10.120 --> 00:32:13.520
As fate would have it,
there's a load of West Ham fans

575
00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:16.880
on this overnight ferry, it's got a casino
on it and a fucking night club.

576
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.200
The Thursday night ferry to "The 'Dam."

577
00:32:19.280 --> 00:32:21.520
Who goes to Amsterdam
on a ferry for the weekend?

578
00:32:21.600 --> 00:32:23.640
What kind of clientele?

579
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.851
The drink of choice for a few hours
was champagne and Jack Daniels slammers.

580
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:35.127
The next thing is that sporadic fighting
is breaking out all round us really.

581
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:40.960
Liam is very excited by the prospects
of a lot of chaos going on

582
00:32:41.040 --> 00:32:42.680
and he goes and joins in.

583
00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:45.280
Yeah, it was fucking mayhem, man, I loved it.

584
00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:48.640
You can see him running
through the windows along the deck.

585
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:49.720
He's having a great time.

586
00:32:49.800 --> 00:32:53.000
He looks like he's in a school playground
chasing leaves.

587
00:32:53.080 --> 00:32:55.080
Liam at one point said
they'd ran through a casino

588
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:59.640
and he flung all the roulette shit
off the table as he was running past.

589
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.688
Then there was a fight broke out

590
00:33:01.840 --> 00:33:04.286
and all I remember
was it was a bit "Benny Hill."

591
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:10.240
The next time I see him, he's still running,
but he's got policemen running after him.

592
00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:12.240
Someone's punched someone,
someone's kicked someone.

593
00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:13.920
Someone's got nicked, then we're handcuffed

594
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.200
and sent down to the bottom of the boat,
we get locked up.

595
00:33:17.280 --> 00:33:19.960
Woke up the next day
and I spoke to the Customs and I said,

596
00:33:20.040 --> 00:33:22.360
"Look, you know,
I'm kind of missing four people.

597
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:23.600
"Do you know where they are?"

598
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.960
We were heading back,
we didn't have any money,

599
00:33:26.040 --> 00:33:27.760
couldn't phone anyone, couldn't do nothing.

600
00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:30.411
I can remember getting to the hotel
and having to ring Marcus and Alan

601
00:33:30.520 --> 00:33:35.040
and they're going,
"You fucking what? You what?"

602
00:33:35.120 --> 00:33:37.885
And he says,
"You've fucking blown it, you've blown it."

603
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.920
But that was punk rock, man!
I just went, "Fuck them!"

604
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.765
I never listened to a word those clowns said
anyway, you know what I mean?

605
00:33:43.040 --> 00:33:46.400
I called McGee, and I'll never forget this
and this is another reason why I love McGee,

606
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.200
I said, "Are you sitting down?
I've got some news.

607
00:33:49.280 --> 00:33:50.960
"Everybody's been arrested."

608
00:33:51.040 --> 00:33:52.849
The only word he said was, "Brilliant."

609
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.740
A hell of a start that, isn't it?
That's a great first day at work. Love it!

610
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.520
Oasis were deported from Holland last week

611
00:34:01.600 --> 00:34:05.120
after they were involved in a drunken brawl
on a cross-Channel ferry.

612
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:06.760
The Creation act were forced to cancel...

613
00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:10.360
I thought it was game. That's how
I want my rock 'n roll stars to act.

614
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.360
Stick up for themselves,
get in a bit of shenanigans and that's it.

615
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:14.840
We lived to fight another day.

616
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.570
To me, it felt right.

617
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:18.840
The thing about getting thrown off ferries,

618
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.686
blah, blah, blah, getting deported
is summat that I'm not proud about.

619
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:23.800
Well, I am.

620
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.645
Right, well, if you're proud about
getting thrown off ferries,

621
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:29.800
then why don't you go and support West Ham
and get the fuck out of my band?

622
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:32.480
These lot think it's rock 'n roll
to get thrown off a ferry.

623
00:34:32.560 --> 00:34:33.920
- No I don't
- To get... Shut up!

624
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.480
These lot think it's rock 'n roll to get...

625
00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:38.080
Shut the fuck up, man!

626
00:34:38.160 --> 00:34:39.762
These lot think...

627
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.442
Am I going to have to say this
part or are you going to shut up?

628
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.480
- Is this my question?
- This is your question.

629
00:34:49.560 --> 00:34:54.120
No, I ain't a hooligan.
I'm not a hooligan. Right?

630
00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:56.440
Obviously, once you get that reputation,

631
00:34:56.520 --> 00:35:00.040
there's always someone
who's going to go, "Well, I'll show him."

632
00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:04.011
If it'd never been in the paper, having a ruck,
that probably wouldn't have happened.

633
00:35:18.240 --> 00:35:21.960
There was a full section of the tour,
it was just going off every night.

634
00:35:22.040 --> 00:35:25.280
I felt that people were turning up
to cause trouble.

635
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:27.044
It was getting me down, if I'm being honest.

636
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:28.841
Fucking dick!

637
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.720
We were getting a reputation
as these bad boys of rock 'n roll.

638
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.560
"That's all fucking great,
but can we talk about the music first?"

639
00:35:51.640 --> 00:35:54.840
I think any band worth their salt,
it's not about just the music.

640
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.920
If you haven't got that kind of behaviour
and you've just got great tunes,

641
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.840
then you're fucking pretty boring,
as far as I'm concerned.

642
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:01.960
It's about both.

643
00:36:02.040 --> 00:36:04.805
When both come together,
you'll have greatness.

644
00:36:09.160 --> 00:36:11.120
We showed their video
a good couple of months ago.

645
00:36:11.200 --> 00:36:14.240
They've wasted no time in releasing
a new single, Shakermaker,

646
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:15.960
Noel and Liam from Oasis.

647
00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:18.281
Thanks for interrupting your hectic schedule.

648
00:36:18.560 --> 00:36:20.688
What's it like being brothers in a band?

649
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.044
He's speechless. Look at that.

650
00:36:28.560 --> 00:36:31.520
It's all right. I think it's all right, me.
I think it's very, very funny.

651
00:36:31.600 --> 00:36:33.760
I mean, if you row,
what sort of things do you row about?

652
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.240
Everything. Everything.
We don't even have to row.

653
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.560
All we got to do is look at each other
in a certain kind of way

654
00:36:39.640 --> 00:36:41.880
and we row without even opening our mouth.

655
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:44.440
We're just going, "Grrr" inside our heads,
you know what I mean?

656
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:50.520
I hate the term "sibling rivalry,"
but that's effectively what it is.

657
00:36:50.600 --> 00:36:53.320
I know my brother better than anybody else.

658
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.165
Liam's like a dog, and I'm like a cat.

659
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:58.360
Cats are very independent creatures.

660
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.840
They don't give a fuck, right bastards.

661
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.160
Dogs are just fucking,
"Play with me, play with me.

662
00:37:03.240 --> 00:37:05.000
"Please fucking throw that ball for me."

663
00:37:05.080 --> 00:37:07.720
Because they fucking need some company.

664
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.361
It's as basic as that,
can't change the way that you are.

665
00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:26.000
I'm a cat, okay? That's just what I am.

666
00:37:26.080 --> 00:37:28.686
I've accepted it. I'm a bit of a bastard.

667
00:37:35.640 --> 00:37:38.610
What can I say, you know?
I'm a bit of a cunt.

668
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.840
They are two brothers, grew up together,

669
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.240
one's one way, one's the other.

670
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.080
Noel has a lot of buttons.

671
00:37:47.160 --> 00:37:49.731
Liam has a lot of fingers.
It's that simple, really.

672
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.600
It's about a power struggle, is what it is.

673
00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:56.880
It's about me being in charge

674
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.920
and everybody directing
everything towards me,

675
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.240
and Liam being pissed off about it.

676
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.561
That's basically what starts it all.

677
00:38:06.560 --> 00:38:09.000
I think it all stems down
to when he bought a stereo years ago

678
00:38:09.080 --> 00:38:11.003
when we shared a room.

679
00:38:11.120 --> 00:38:13.040
I think one night I've come in pissed,

680
00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:17.045
and I couldn't find the light switch,
so I pissed all over his fucking new stereo.

681
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.760
I think it basically boils down to that.
He's held that grudge.

682
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.410
You let go of them grudges, brother!

683
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:26.364
Democracy never works in a band.

684
00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:28.400
It's been proven a million times.

685
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:29.600
And the trouble you had with Oasis is

686
00:38:29.680 --> 00:38:32.889
you had two people
vying for the Prime Minister job.

687
00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:37.960
That tension, that antagonism,
it drove that band,

688
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.442
and it killed that band, is what it did.

689
00:38:41.600 --> 00:38:43.602
No lifting of the arms.

690
00:38:43.720 --> 00:38:45.760
He got a better stance than me.

691
00:38:47.640 --> 00:38:49.642
He's a dick! Official!

692
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.842
Yeah, but, anyway. Right?

693
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.320
It's all about what's inside
the fucking tin of beans that counts,

694
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.560
not what the fucking wrapper is,
or how much it costs,

695
00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:08.920
or who you buy it off,
or what till you get it from.

696
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.960
Or even whether it's your Spar,
your Kwiksave, or your fucking Sainsbury's.

697
00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:16.240
Man, it's about what's inside
the tin of beans, man.

698
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.000
And, like, if it's right, it's right.

699
00:39:18.080 --> 00:39:21.760
If this ever goes on, like,
a video, for the kids, right,

700
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.040
I would apologise, but I'm not going to!
Because he's a prick!

701
00:39:25.120 --> 00:39:26.690
Check it out!

702
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.470
One-two, one-two, one. One... Two?

703
00:39:34.600 --> 00:39:36.720
When people go,
"Oh, what's the best thing about Oasis?"

704
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.000
It's just getting that chance
to record our album

705
00:39:39.080 --> 00:39:40.600
because we knew
we weren't going to fuck it up.

706
00:39:40.680 --> 00:39:41.681
We were ripping, man!

707
00:39:43.720 --> 00:39:45.280
So, we'd been to Monnow Valley.

708
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.567
We recorded what we thought
was a great album.

709
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.249
Everybody else surrounding the band
kept chanting this mantra,

710
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.120
"Oh, it doesn't sound like they do live,
it doesn't sound like they do live."

711
00:39:55.200 --> 00:39:57.965
I was like, "Well, who does it
fucking sound like, Spandau Ballet?"

712
00:40:06.640 --> 00:40:10.725
# Is it my imagination

713
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:16.284
# Or have I finally found
something worth living for?

714
00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:19.291
I said to Noel Gallagher,
"It's not good enough."

715
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.171
I knew what Oasis should sound like
'cause I'd seen it live

716
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.049
and I just knew the performances were wrong.

717
00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:28.520
At one point, he was so frustrated
by the whole thing,

718
00:40:28.600 --> 00:40:32.321
he went, "Look, why don't we just put it out
and we'll get it right in the second album?"

719
00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:35.450
And I went,
"You'll never get to the second album."

720
00:40:35.680 --> 00:40:38.080
# 'Cause when it comes on top

721
00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:41.562
# You got to make it happen

722
00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:44.651
It was not happening.
The pressure was definitely on.

723
00:40:45.520 --> 00:40:48.046
I phoned up Marcus one Saturday morning.

724
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.800
I'd be interested to know
why they took that risk,

725
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.720
just putting me in charge of that.

726
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.920
No track record whatsoever.

727
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.765
The thinking is, "Who does the live sound?"

728
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.565
"Mark does. So let's go do it live."

729
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.485
Time for plan B on Definitely Maybe.

730
00:41:23.560 --> 00:41:26.040
And thank God for that, you know, because
we all knew that Coyle understood us.

731
00:41:26.120 --> 00:41:29.010
He always made us sound how we should sound.

732
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:34.080
We hit upon this system in the Sawmills,
everything was crowded around the drum kit.

733
00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:37.440
We'd just do three takes
of each song and then move on.

734
00:41:37.520 --> 00:41:38.560
I would have thought that

735
00:41:38.640 --> 00:41:42.486
that album was recorded
in three days, maximum.

736
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:49.287
But, I started mixing
and it didn't really sound very good.

737
00:41:49.680 --> 00:41:53.287
I think at that stage,
I'd took it as far as I could.

738
00:41:54.080 --> 00:41:57.680
I do remember taking a cassette,
the final mix we did with Mark,

739
00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.000
to McGee's flat

740
00:41:59.080 --> 00:42:02.240
and sensing that he was
completely underwhelmed by it.

741
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.607
And me thinking, "Oh, fuck it, I give up!"

742
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:09.450
Marcus announces that he's going to get
Owen Morris to do a mix on spec.

743
00:42:10.040 --> 00:42:12.920
Marcus got me in because
I don't think he knew anybody else.

744
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.162
So I was very lucky to be in the right place.

745
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.680
And I'm thinking, "What has he done?
You know, I don't get it."

746
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.491
He did one mix and it was just outrageous.

747
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.000
We did a session. That's where I met Liam.

748
00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:44.640
And I told him he sounded like John Lennon

749
00:42:44.720 --> 00:42:47.080
and he was like, "You got it!"
at, like, 1:00 in the afternoon.

750
00:42:47.160 --> 00:42:49.322
Liam, lead vocal, rock 'n roll star.

751
00:42:49.600 --> 00:42:55.846
# I live my life in the city
and there's no easy way out

752
00:42:57.040 --> 00:43:00.681
# The day's moving just too fast for me... #

753
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.360
Noel was like, "That sounds great.
That'll do."

754
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.488
And they let me do exactly what I wanted.

755
00:43:07.600 --> 00:43:10.720
And there was this new box
and you could make things twice as loud

756
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:13.680
without going into digital distortion
on your CD.

757
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:18.084
It was in every fucking jukebox in the country,
twice as loud. It was funny as fuck, man.

758
00:43:19.200 --> 00:43:22.080
It's just a pity
that Definitely Maybe came out

759
00:43:22.160 --> 00:43:24.360
and then we didn't see Alan
for a couple of years.

760
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:25.840
I took too many drugs.

761
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.040
More and more and more,
that's what we were all about,

762
00:43:28.120 --> 00:43:30.407
and eventually it was too much.

763
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.760
It's just that's what happens, isn't it?
When you play with fire, mate.

764
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:36.491
Some people can last the pace,
some people can't.

765
00:43:36.600 --> 00:43:39.410
Do you know what?
I don't regret any of that shit.

766
00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:40.920
That's just life.

767
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.880
We didn't know it then,
but he was the last of a dying breed.

768
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.200
He's up there with the most important people
In my life, you know what I mean,

769
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:48.770
that's made a fucking real difference.

770
00:43:52.600 --> 00:43:55.604
Twelve songs that are about being
alive and having a good time.

771
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.120
About being happy. About enjoying yourself.

772
00:43:58.200 --> 00:44:00.920
And then about being sad,
you know what I mean?

773
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.400
But knowing that it can get better.

774
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:03.641
About everything. Just life.

775
00:44:25.240 --> 00:44:28.600
Their debut album is already being
hailed as a classic of our time.

776
00:44:28.680 --> 00:44:30.320
A year ago,
they were playing to empty venues.

777
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.400
Last night, they embarked
on their first UK sell-out tour.

778
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.960
One of the biggest British
bands since the Beatles.

779
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:40.120
There isn't a band like Oasis.

780
00:44:40.200 --> 00:44:43.600
They're trying to get the youth culture
out of raves, taking drugs and stuff,

781
00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:46.047
and back into the gigs, where they belong.

782
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:48.640
And they're really good,
and Liam Gallagher is just gorgeous

783
00:44:48.720 --> 00:44:50.484
and I'll have his children!

784
00:44:51.080 --> 00:44:54.000
Our first single came out
in England four months ago.

785
00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:56.120
It went into the charts at number 32.

786
00:44:56.200 --> 00:44:58.000
Everyone said an indie band can't do that.

787
00:44:58.080 --> 00:45:00.640
Well, the album's gone out
and it's gone in straight at number one

788
00:45:00.720 --> 00:45:04.160
above Pavarotti, above Prince,
even above Elvis.

789
00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:06.925
The fastest-selling debut album
of all time in England,

790
00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:08.485
and quite deservedly so.

791
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:11.760
- Here's Rock 'n Roll Star. Here they are!
- # That to me was just a day in bed

792
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:15.400
# I'm gonna take my car and drive real far

793
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.529
# You're not concerned about the way we are

794
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:21.963
# In my mind my dreams are real

795
00:45:22.120 --> 00:45:24.805
# Now you're concerned about the way I feel

796
00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:30.331
# Tonight I'm a rock 'n roll star

797
00:45:31.640 --> 00:45:36.328
# Tonight I'm a rock 'n roll star

798
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.529
# It's just rock 'n roll

799
00:45:44.040 --> 00:45:46.327
# It's just rock 'n roll

800
00:45:47.520 --> 00:45:50.569
# It's just rock 'n roll #

801
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.408
Thank you very much.

802
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.480
So next thing you know,
we were going to Japan.

803
00:46:16.560 --> 00:46:17.600
What do you expect?

804
00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:20.760
I've never been to Japan, so you think,
"All right, I'm prepared," you know.

805
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:25.240
No. Nothing ever on this planet
was going to prepare me.

806
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:27.209
Japan! Japan!

807
00:46:27.560 --> 00:46:30.803
We arrived in Japan and there were,
fucking, like, 1,000 girls at the airport.

808
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.040
People waiting for us and shouting my name!

809
00:46:34.120 --> 00:46:36.560
"Liam, Liam! Noel! Guigs! Tony!"

810
00:46:36.640 --> 00:46:39.160
It was just, like, "Fuck off! This is Japan?

811
00:46:39.240 --> 00:46:40.520
"But they know my name?"

812
00:46:40.600 --> 00:46:43.680
"Yeah, of course they do!"
It got me and I loved it.

813
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.728
I loved every last minute of it.

814
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.000
Fucking hell, they followed us everywhere,

815
00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:51.920
outside hotels, in the fucking foyer,

816
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.402
outside your room, in your fucking room,
everywhere you went.

817
00:46:55.520 --> 00:46:56.960
It was like mania, you know what I mean?

818
00:46:57.040 --> 00:46:58.804
It was like what we'd always read about.

819
00:47:01.500 --> 00:47:04.967
First time in Japan.
First time on a jumbo plane.

820
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.841
It was just mental,
you know what I mean? Just mad!

821
00:47:11.600 --> 00:47:13.284
Just, you're all off your heads,
and it's mad.

822
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:14.925
And it's top! I love youse all.

823
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.290
I absolutely loved Japan.

824
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.521
It was fucking mayhem.

825
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.040
Guigs wasn't too keen on it, he was like,

826
00:47:21.120 --> 00:47:22.680
"Oh, I don't know
what they're fussing about."

827
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.570
And I'm like, "Me, you fucking lunatic!
That's what they're fussing about!"

828
00:47:27.680 --> 00:47:28.886
Where's the toilet?

829
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:43.280
# Is it my imagination

830
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:48.491
# Or have I finally found
something worth living for?

831
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.765
# I was looking for some action

832
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.361
# But all I found
was cigarettes and alcohol...

833
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:10.801
That might have been the one time in my life
where I thought, "Fucking hell! Wow!

834
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:12.200
"How has it landed here?

835
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.200
"Why are all these people
who don't speak English

836
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:15.360
"obsessed with it already

837
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.249
"before we even fucking
plugged in and played?"

838
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.240
# To spend your days in the sunshine

839
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.360
# You might as well do the white line

840
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.480
# 'Cause when it comes on top

841
00:48:28.560 --> 00:48:32.640
# You got to make it happen

842
00:48:32.720 --> 00:48:35.200
# You got to make it happen #

843
00:48:40.040 --> 00:48:44.284
I was writing for a "Nancy Boys" magazine
as far as they were concerned.

844
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:46.962
I knew that I was ten years older than them.

845
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:50.080
I was female, and it was all blokes.

846
00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:51.920
I was a mum, and I just thought,

847
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.240
"Right. I'm going to stay up later than you,
I'm going to drink more than you,

848
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.160
"I'm going to behave more badly than you,"

849
00:48:57.240 --> 00:48:59.641
because I wasn't going
to get this story otherwise.

850
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.480
The first night in Japan, we'd all been out

851
00:49:05.560 --> 00:49:08.560
and it had been about 3:00 in the morning.

852
00:49:08.640 --> 00:49:11.880
My head had just hit the pillow,
and the phone rang.

853
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:12.961
"Who's calling me?"

854
00:49:13.080 --> 00:49:15.840
I picked up the phone and it was Liam.

855
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.480
"Get down here now!"

856
00:49:17.560 --> 00:49:20.640
So I walked down the corridor
back into their room

857
00:49:20.720 --> 00:49:26.040
and Liam said to me, and honestly,
it was like he was shimmering,

858
00:49:26.120 --> 00:49:30.720
he just said to me, "Do you believe in God?
Do you think there's a God?"

859
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.800
And, I sort of looked at him and I said,

860
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:35.320
"How did we get on to this one?"

861
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.240
And he said,
"Because I don't believe there's a God,

862
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.920
"because if there was a God,
all that wouldn't have happened."

863
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.960
And I said, "What wouldn't have happened?"

864
00:49:44.040 --> 00:49:46.320
I didn't know what he was on about.

865
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:49.847
There was all this pent-up simmering rage.

866
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.520
I was definitely angry with life and that,
I guess, you know.

867
00:49:54.600 --> 00:49:58.764
You know, I mean,
shit with my dad and just life in general.

868
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.200
I was an angry young man,

869
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:05.920
so singing them songs sort of
released all my shit onto other people,

870
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.604
but in a good way, you know what I mean?

871
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:12.566
My dad, he used to knock my mum about.

872
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.685
There were many times when,
like, it got like that.

873
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:20.688
He never touched me,
I don't know why he didn't.

874
00:50:21.160 --> 00:50:23.200
You know, sometimes he'd fucking,
he'd want the craic

875
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:25.123
instead of having to witness it.

876
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.080
He used to kill Noel.

877
00:50:28.160 --> 00:50:30.766
Noel was the one that got it the most.

878
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.760
I remember Noel once saying, "If you don't
get out of here, Mum, and leave him,"

879
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.560
he says, "I'm going to kill him."

880
00:50:35.640 --> 00:50:38.689
And I thought, "Oh, Jesus. You can't
be doing time for the likes of him."

881
00:50:40.080 --> 00:50:43.040
Yeah, my dad used to beat
the living daylights out of me.

882
00:50:43.120 --> 00:50:48.000
I've never felt compelled
to either talk about it or write about it.

883
00:50:48.080 --> 00:50:50.162
I know that I think
it's no one else's business.

884
00:50:51.640 --> 00:50:55.560
You can't let that kind of thing
affect you in any way

885
00:50:55.640 --> 00:50:59.406
because then you're carrying
that weight all the way through life.

886
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.120
He always thought, "You'd never leave him
because you had nowhere to go to."

887
00:51:04.200 --> 00:51:07.283
"You'll never leave me."
I said, "Won't I? Try it."

888
00:51:08.600 --> 00:51:11.604
One night, we got the courage to get out

889
00:51:12.600 --> 00:51:15.046
and I left him a knife
and a fork and a spoon,

890
00:51:15.160 --> 00:51:16.880
and I think I left him too much.

891
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.009
He never once come after us, wouldn't dare.

892
00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:23.367
It was a sense
of "See you later, we're free!"

893
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.927
It definitely affected them,
because they got very bitter.

894
00:51:29.120 --> 00:51:30.360
I wouldn't say I was scarred,

895
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.330
but everybody's childhood
makes them what they are.

896
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.207
You can't think about it too deeply
because it would fucking drive you mad.

897
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.720
I think it benefitted me in the way
that it made me withdraw into my own world

898
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:46.804
and from that
came the learning to play the guitar.

899
00:51:48.520 --> 00:51:53.162
I guess, in some way,
my old fella beat the talent into me.

900
00:52:00.560 --> 00:52:03.520
On Live 105, Oasis.

901
00:52:03.600 --> 00:52:04.601
Supersonic, yeah?

902
00:52:13.160 --> 00:52:15.640
The contrast of getting
on a plane and coming from Japan,

903
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:18.240
where the mania was like, fucking, "Blam!"

904
00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:23.760
Then getting to America,
where nobody had heard of us,

905
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:25.240
that didn't freak me out.

906
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.483
I was ready to start again,
you know what I mean?

907
00:52:28.600 --> 00:52:30.160
But I also knew

908
00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:33.449
that you won't get anywhere
on attitude in the States.

909
00:52:33.560 --> 00:52:34.641
You've got be able to play.

910
00:52:35.720 --> 00:52:38.920
I went over there with definitely
a fucking chip on my shoulder,

911
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:40.560
but a good chip, you know what I mean?

912
00:52:40.640 --> 00:52:43.720
It was like, "Look, we're going to fucking
have youse and if you like us, great,

913
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:45.245
"if you don't, I don't give a shit."

914
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.560
American Customs then asked a question

915
00:52:47.640 --> 00:52:49.529
that would fucking blow Liam's mind,
you know what I mean?

916
00:52:50.080 --> 00:52:51.800
Right, who've we got here then?

917
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:53.800
He's a singer.

918
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:55.480
"What's the purpose of your visit?"

919
00:52:55.560 --> 00:52:58.120
"You what?" "Not a fucking visit.

920
00:52:58.200 --> 00:53:00.009
"I'm not visiting, mate,
I'm a fucking rock star.

921
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:01.920
"I'm here to steal your soul."

922
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.480
"Okay, you can follow me now, sir.
You're coming this way."

923
00:53:09.560 --> 00:53:12.840
There's always pressure that's on
the bands to break America as well,

924
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:17.160
you know, but breaking America
quite often breaks the fucking band

925
00:53:17.240 --> 00:53:21.760
because they're that concerned about it
and it's that vast. Fuck me, man.

926
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.680
You have a good time and all that,
but I'll tell you what,

927
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.840
when you get home,
your carpet don't look the same.

928
00:53:26.920 --> 00:53:29.971
And we've got the two Gallagher
brothers from the band Oasis.

929
00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:32.840
And you're playing at the Whisky tonight.
Is it sold out, do you know?

930
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:34.040
Of course it's sold out.

931
00:53:34.120 --> 00:53:35.320
Okay, and what have you been doing?

932
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:37.080
We've just been doing loads
of interviews, and gigs.

933
00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:39.080
Working. Melissa's been
making us work dead hard.

934
00:53:39.160 --> 00:53:40.200
She's on top.

935
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.480
I think what they said
was there were some interviews

936
00:53:42.560 --> 00:53:44.720
and hanging out and doing work and stuff.

937
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.440
- You're right.
- I'll be the translator here.

938
00:53:47.520 --> 00:53:49.680
Diddle-diddle-diddle-diddle

939
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:50.966
Anything else?

940
00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:54.600
Someone had discovered
the joys of crystal meth,

941
00:53:54.680 --> 00:53:57.480
which is effectively like ninja speed.

942
00:53:57.560 --> 00:54:00.400
It's not even fun, you know what I mean?
It's a fucking horrible drug.

943
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:01.720
I don't know who fucking got it,

944
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.485
but it was there
and we all thought it was coke.

945
00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:09.280
And we were doing big fucking lines of it
and it just fucking kept us up for days.

946
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:10.840
Everybody had a dig at it.

947
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:13.840
The only problem with that
is that you couldn't get to sleep.

948
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:14.920
You couldn't sleep.

949
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:18.880
Right, I don't mind having a dig
at anything as long as, you know,

950
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.725
about 10:30 at night,
I have a cup of tea and go to bed.

951
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:25.200
The Whisky a Go Go
on Sunset Strip, fucking hell,

952
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.567
it's the most famous club in LA.

953
00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:28.841
We get to the sound check,

954
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.482
everybody's been up all night
and looked like it.

955
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:36.285
All right, LA, Whisky a Go Go.
This is the spot.

956
00:54:36.720 --> 00:54:38.320
The best band in Britain.

957
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:41.585
I say they're the best band in the universe.

958
00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:45.302
None other than Oasis!

959
00:54:45.720 --> 00:54:46.881
All right, Oasis!

960
00:54:47.560 --> 00:54:48.607
And there you have it.

961
00:54:49.640 --> 00:54:51.847
This one's called Rock 'n Roll Star.

962
00:55:11.600 --> 00:55:15.840
# I live my life in the city
and there's no easy way out...

963
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:17.040
Everyone was appalling.

964
00:55:17.120 --> 00:55:19.800
Every member of the crew,
every member of the fucking band

965
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:21.120
because of crystal meth.

966
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.680
Phil Smith, our roadie,

967
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:28.920
who was responsible
for putting the set lists out,

968
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.685
for some reason, my set list
was different to everybody else's.

969
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:34.724
# You're not concerned
about the way we are...

970
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.720
They were all playing different songs
at the same time.

971
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:40.802
"Whoa! What's going on here?"

972
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.320
# Tonight I'm a rock 'n roll star...

973
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:47.961
It was a shambles, man.
It was an absolute fucking shambles.

974
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:51.970
# Tonight I'm a rock 'n roll... #

975
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.323
Do it again for you, you know?

976
00:55:57.520 --> 00:55:59.400
The whole thing just fell apart.

977
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:00.960
I've never seen it with this band before.

978
00:56:01.040 --> 00:56:02.360
All right, Rock 'n Roll Star.

979
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:03.441
Again.

980
00:56:07.240 --> 00:56:09.560
I think there were a lot of tension on stage,

981
00:56:09.640 --> 00:56:11.449
a lot of gesturing between Noel and Liam.

982
00:56:11.560 --> 00:56:13.480
Well, more from Liam to Noel.

983
00:56:13.560 --> 00:56:15.800
And then the tambourine came flying.

984
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:16.920
I think he said summat

985
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.400
and I fucking launched the tambourine
at him or summat.

986
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.400
Not like the Bruce Lee throwing-star
or a fucking lightsabre,

987
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:23.480
it was a tambourine.

988
00:56:23.560 --> 00:56:26.000
But when it hit me on the shoulder
it went, "Tshhh!"

989
00:56:26.080 --> 00:56:27.411
Out of time, I might add.

990
00:56:28.080 --> 00:56:31.406
It was lucky I didn't fucking launch a monitor
at him or summat, or a fucking drummer.

991
00:56:32.560 --> 00:56:33.641
What?

992
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.960
I could see Liam was going behind one
of the amps throughout the gig, man,

993
00:56:39.040 --> 00:56:41.880
and he was just snorting lines
of crystal meth on stage.

994
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:43.610
"That's going to go tits up, isn't it?"

995
00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:55.400
It was a bit of a catastrophe.

996
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:57.164
Yeah. I was in a fury.

997
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:01.040
I left a little bit of me
on that stage that night.

998
00:57:01.120 --> 00:57:04.408
After that night, it was more
"me and them" as opposed to "us".

999
00:57:05.720 --> 00:57:10.040
I remember going back to the hotel
and saying to Maggie, our tour manager,

1000
00:57:10.120 --> 00:57:11.720
I think I took the float off her.

1001
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:13.564
Noel was quite upset about it.

1002
00:57:13.680 --> 00:57:16.080
He said, "Can you give me money?"
And I said, "Well, what do you want?"

1003
00:57:16.160 --> 00:57:17.800
He goes, "Well, enough money
to go back home."

1004
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.850
So I just gave him, like, $700.
That's all I had, I said, you know.

1005
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.408
He said, "Can I have my passport?"
So I gave him his passport.

1006
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:26.240
But I remember ringing up Marcus
saying, "He's going to leave,"

1007
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:27.800
and he was like,
"No, no, no, he'll be fine, be fine.

1008
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:29.400
"He's going to sleep it off,
it'll be fine, be fine."

1009
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.642
I was like, "Oh, no, I don't think so!"

1010
00:57:33.720 --> 00:57:35.200
I don't know what I was thinking.

1011
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.806
Maybe I thought it was the end,
I really don't know.

1012
00:57:38.640 --> 00:57:40.240
He takes the money and runs.

1013
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.200
I remember some fucking soppy note
coming through the door, saying, like,

1014
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.400
"How can we go on like brothers?"

1015
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:47.360
It was like, "Fuck right off!"

1016
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:48.480
So that got rolled up

1017
00:57:48.560 --> 00:57:51.904
and then another line of crystal meth
went up the old fucking tubular bells.

1018
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.640
So, I woke up in the morning
and I found a note underneath my door

1019
00:57:56.720 --> 00:58:00.162
and I opened it up, and I knew it.
He said, "I'm leaving." "Bollocks!"

1020
00:58:00.720 --> 00:58:03.121
He's gone missing. Nobody knows where he is.

1021
00:58:04.120 --> 00:58:05.680
There's our songwriter gone.

1022
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.206
"Shit! I think it's really over, isn't it?"

1023
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:10.600
I came up with this idea.

1024
00:58:10.680 --> 00:58:15.080
I got his bill and then I traced
all the last numbers he rang.

1025
00:58:15.160 --> 00:58:16.920
And then I noticed there was
one number "415,"

1026
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.040
and I thought, "Ah, San Francisco."

1027
00:58:19.120 --> 00:58:21.600
We've just been to San Francisco

1028
00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:24.720
and I knew that he had
some little fling over there.

1029
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:26.760
Marcus said, "I'm going to ring the number."

1030
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.920
So he gets her on the phone and he says,
"You know, we're not saying anything,

1031
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.040
"but obviously, legally,
he's a missing person, you know.

1032
00:58:32.120 --> 00:58:34.000
"We're going to have to have
to get the police involved."

1033
00:58:34.080 --> 00:58:36.651
And the minute he hung up the phone,
I said, "He's there."

1034
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.960
Let me see if I can get
my story straight here.

1035
00:58:42.040 --> 00:58:44.611
I met this girl at an Oasis gig.

1036
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.600
I must have phoned her
and said, "It's fucked up here."

1037
00:58:48.680 --> 00:58:51.320
And I got on a plane
and flew off to San Francisco.

1038
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:52.800
I don't know
what the fuck I thought I was doing.

1039
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:55.400
I was just going to, like,
disappear, you know.

1040
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.680
It was quite a traumatic time.

1041
00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:02.000
But Talk Tonight
was written about those few days

1042
00:59:02.080 --> 00:59:04.526
and out of that came that great song.

1043
00:59:05.160 --> 00:59:06.320
So it was meant to be.

1044
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:07.561
It was meant to be.

1045
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:09.960
# Sleeping on a plane

1046
00:59:10.040 --> 00:59:12.880
# You know you can't complain

1047
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:18.280
# You took your last chance once again

1048
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:24.970
# I landed, stranded

1049
00:59:25.080 --> 00:59:28.641
# Hardly even knew your name

1050
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.568
# I want to talk tonight

1051
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.601
# Until the morning light

1052
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.251
# About how you saved my life

1053
00:59:48.160 --> 00:59:51.607
# You and me see how we are #

1054
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:56.920
I kind of sat in this girl's flat,
probably doing too many fucking drugs

1055
00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:58.411
and being a bit fucking mad.

1056
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:03.246
Unbeknown to me, they'd found out,
"This is where we think he is."

1057
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.120
If I close my eyes now,
I can't even picture the girl.

1058
01:00:07.200 --> 01:00:10.090
I can't remember her name,
it's a bit of a blur.

1059
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:12.960
You meet them people in America,

1060
01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:15.200
you don't meet them
anywhere else in the world.

1061
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.960
They take you under their wing, you know.

1062
01:00:18.040 --> 01:00:21.120
They're spiritual people is what they are.

1063
01:00:21.200 --> 01:00:22.531
She was one of them.

1064
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.440
She was saying, "What, you're going to leave?

1065
01:00:26.520 --> 01:00:27.520
"And what are you going to do?"

1066
01:00:27.600 --> 01:00:30.440
And I guess at that point I'm thinking,
"Actually, that's a very good point.

1067
01:00:30.520 --> 01:00:33.330
"What am I going to do?"
I can't sing. I wasn't a singer then.

1068
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:35.280
I'm not a front man.

1069
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.200
I just needed a bit of time out, I guess.

1070
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.280
I may have been trying
to teach somebody a lesson.

1071
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:43.408
I failed miserably.

1072
01:00:44.680 --> 01:00:47.680
I think we'd heard about a couple of days
that, "Yes, he's coming back."

1073
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.400
It means the band is staying together

1074
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:51.448
rather than going home
and signing on the dole.

1075
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.080
And obviously,
by the time he's about to turn up,

1076
01:00:54.160 --> 01:00:56.600
everyone's fucking shitting it,
because, you know,

1077
01:00:56.680 --> 01:00:59.604
because he can put on a stern face.

1078
01:00:59.720 --> 01:01:01.324
You know, he can unsettle you.

1079
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:07.569
The new era started
when he walked back into that hotel

1080
01:01:08.600 --> 01:01:10.360
and everything was different after that.

1081
01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.400
And we all had to be different

1082
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:14.562
because if you're not with him,
you're going home.

1083
01:01:15.640 --> 01:01:17.400
I'd written these new songs.

1084
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.482
Someone had booked a recording session.

1085
01:01:20.040 --> 01:01:22.160
Like this was Oasis'
fucking cure for everything.

1086
01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:23.880
"Let's go in the studio."

1087
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:28.400
Talk Tonight,
well, that's one moody fucking song, that.

1088
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:33.160
It shows that delicate side to him...

1089
01:01:34.240 --> 01:01:35.960
...that you just don't really see.

1090
01:01:36.040 --> 01:01:39.520
He doesn't show these emotions, Noel.
He never did.

1091
01:01:39.600 --> 01:01:44.240
Apart from when you stick him
behind the glass with a microphone,

1092
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:47.800
and then he can let this emotion loose
that he's got

1093
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.531
and suddenly you can see "Noel."

1094
01:01:51.680 --> 01:01:56.925
You kind of see, almost,
a little boy or summat, you know.

1095
01:01:57.040 --> 01:02:00.681
Something very, very innocent and very pure.

1096
01:02:02.240 --> 01:02:04.920
They're my favourite moments.

1097
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.800
It's like a door opens
and a bit of light comes in,

1098
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:12.282
and then the door's shut again, you know,
and he's calling you a twat.

1099
01:02:20.680 --> 01:02:24.730
# Some might say
that sunshine follows thunder... #

1100
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:28.760
In those days, I would write every day
because I was fucking so driven.

1101
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:33.926
I recognised that I was in a moment
and everything that I wrote felt great.

1102
01:02:37.720 --> 01:02:40.680
There's a strange melancholy
to Some Might Say

1103
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:42.640
considering I knew
it was going to be number one

1104
01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:44.240
before I even sat and wrote it.

1105
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:45.401
I fucking knew it.

1106
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:48.490
What is going on in this room now?

1107
01:02:48.600 --> 01:02:50.440
You can walk next door to Boyzone,
yeah, go in there.

1108
01:02:50.520 --> 01:02:53.490
They'll be like, "Hey, fuck, oh, Jesus...

1109
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.920
"We've got to get this fucking thing
together now, because it's not in time.

1110
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:01.447
"It's not in time,
just fucking me and you going like, 'Huh!"'

1111
01:03:01.600 --> 01:03:04.880
You go in there and you hear,
"Hey, do that, hey!"

1112
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.040
You come in this room and it's like,
you know, it's the funny farm.

1113
01:03:08.220 --> 01:03:09.840
And that's what it's all about, it's like,

1114
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:13.040
"Do what you friggin' want."
If you want to go like that, do it,

1115
01:03:13.120 --> 01:03:15.480
because it don't mean nothing.
If you want to go... Do that.

1116
01:03:15.560 --> 01:03:19.600
If you want to go...
"Hey, fuck man." Like, "Hey, fuck," right?

1117
01:03:19.680 --> 01:03:20.720
You can do that.

1118
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.720
But if you want to just do this...

1119
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.121
...what I'm doing here now,
just do it, because it's like...

1120
01:03:25.240 --> 01:03:28.200
This is an advert for not taking drugs.

1121
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:29.960
This is an advert? It's an advert?

1122
01:03:30.040 --> 01:03:32.320
This is an advert for not getting
into chemical abuse, big time.

1123
01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:34.040
No, no, hey, hey, hey!

1124
01:03:34.120 --> 01:03:37.280
People who know,
know that I have not been a fucking...

1125
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:38.520
I've never been an abuser.

1126
01:03:38.600 --> 01:03:41.600
I've never been an abuser, I've been a user.

1127
01:03:42.080 --> 01:03:45.200
I've never been an abuser, man.
Nothing to do with drugs.

1128
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.440
It's to do with the air,
the air, man, and music.

1129
01:03:48.520 --> 01:03:51.600
And that is it, that is it,
and I'm ranting now, come on!

1130
01:03:51.680 --> 01:03:52.841
You know what I mean? It's right.

1131
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:54.411
That's it. That's it.

1132
01:03:55.080 --> 01:03:56.240
Giving a performance of their brand-new song.

1133
01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:59.642
It's the best song around.
It is Some Might Say!

1134
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:19.930
# Some might say that
sunshine follows thunder

1135
01:04:22.520 --> 01:04:28.482
# Go and tell it to the man
who cannot shine #

1136
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:32.808
Yeah, and that was Tony's last gig.

1137
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:35.560
Yeah, I'd probably made up my mind

1138
01:04:35.640 --> 01:04:37.680
knowing that Champagne Supernova
was coming up

1139
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.720
and Don't Look Back In Anger, and Wonderwall,

1140
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.883
that he wasn't going to be
able to play those songs.

1141
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:49.280
It had become apparent
recording Definitely Maybe.

1142
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:53.400
We spent a lot of time fucking about
trying to get the drums right.

1143
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:54.561
And it was never right.

1144
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:57.524
When we were doing Some Might Say and stuff,

1145
01:04:57.640 --> 01:04:58.920
Noel was like, to me,

1146
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.720
"That's the fucking last time
he's ever in the fucking studio."

1147
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:04.640
I was going to Tony, "Tony, you've got to get
your shit together, Tony.

1148
01:05:04.720 --> 01:05:06.131
"Or bye, Tony."

1149
01:05:06.720 --> 01:05:10.247
Drummers are really smelly,
useless, talentless losers, man.

1150
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.080
I mean, fancy having a job
where you bang things all day.

1151
01:05:13.160 --> 01:05:15.160
I thought orangutans do that, don't they?

1152
01:05:15.240 --> 01:05:16.640
Gorillas and monkeys and that.

1153
01:05:16.720 --> 01:05:20.410
They just bang things, like bang dustbin lids
on their heads and all that.

1154
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:21.920
Well, that's what they do, isn't it?

1155
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.800
And drummers just do it
and get paid loads of money for it.

1156
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.008
Fucking sack them all.
Drum machines, I say, man.

1157
01:05:26.120 --> 01:05:28.080
I'm telling you,
can't wait to say I'm in a dance band.

1158
01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:30.840
Press the button, "Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk."
Doesn't answer back, don't have to feed it.

1159
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:32.640
Don't have to pay no money,
don't have to buy it any drugs.

1160
01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:34.360
Don't have to get it any women,
don't have to do nothing.

1161
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:36.000
Put it on a flight,
"Fuck it, in the back of the truck,"

1162
01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:37.827
and never have to speak to it again.

1163
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:42.520
As it went through that American tour,
it got really nasty with Tony,

1164
01:05:42.600 --> 01:05:44.760
and you'd have to feel for the boy.

1165
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:48.562
I'd hold my hands up and say,
I gave him a terrible time as well.

1166
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.000
And I shared a room with him.

1167
01:05:52.080 --> 01:05:53.200
Tony would just pour it out, you know.

1168
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:54.560
"Fucking hell, Bonehead, do you know?

1169
01:05:54.640 --> 01:05:57.040
"People are getting at me,
and people are doing this?"

1170
01:05:57.120 --> 01:05:59.407
It was hard for me
to be the guy in the middle.

1171
01:06:00.080 --> 01:06:03.368
Maybe I talked to Noel, talked to Liam,
"Look, go easy on the guy, man."

1172
01:06:04.680 --> 01:06:06.560
I was quite a reserved guy.

1173
01:06:06.640 --> 01:06:09.400
I think people might have looked
at that as some kind of weakness,

1174
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:12.960
but no, I didn't want to be the leader.

1175
01:06:13.040 --> 01:06:14.804
I'll sit back here and do my drums.

1176
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:19.000
You know, like, when a pack of feral dogs
exclude one puppy,

1177
01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:20.320
it became like that, I think.

1178
01:06:21.720 --> 01:06:24.400
Our Kid, I just think, made his mind up,
you know what I mean,

1179
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:25.800
and just didn't fancy him.

1180
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:27.680
"He's not going to be
able to do these next songs."

1181
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.206
Or "I don't want him to do it,"
you know what I mean?

1182
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.123
Yeah, I mean, I'm gutted for him,
but it is what it is, man.

1183
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.680
I had an argument with Noel.

1184
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:38.880
He said something,
and I finally went, "Fuck you, mate."

1185
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:40.640
You know what I mean, "Fuck off."

1186
01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:43.520
I told him in no uncertain words
what I thought of him.

1187
01:06:43.600 --> 01:06:45.045
I kind of regret that a touch.

1188
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.080
We might have had words.
It's quite likely, I don't know.

1189
01:06:50.160 --> 01:06:54.324
Whatever he says is probably true.
I wouldn't deny it at all.

1190
01:06:55.720 --> 01:06:57.800
I was at home and Marcus phoned.

1191
01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:59.640
He says, "Are you sat down?

1192
01:06:59.720 --> 01:07:03.720
"Listen, I've got some bad news for you.
The band want you out."

1193
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:06.040
I was shell-shocked.

1194
01:07:06.120 --> 01:07:08.440
Still, to this day, it's with me.

1195
01:07:08.520 --> 01:07:10.841
I think about it every day,
believe it or not.

1196
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:13.600
Hard for him, you know, poor old Tony,

1197
01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:17.321
but all of a sudden it's like,
"Shit! We need another drummer."

1198
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.571
Paul Weller's drummer
had a brother called Alan.

1199
01:07:20.680 --> 01:07:22.960
And I was going, "Right, cool,
I'm arsed, what does he look like?"

1200
01:07:23.040 --> 01:07:24.041
"Smegly little mod."

1201
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:25.970
"Cool. Let's get him down here."

1202
01:07:27.600 --> 01:07:29.800
And I'd never met this guy before.

1203
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:32.480
He starts talking about the drums

1204
01:07:32.560 --> 01:07:36.167
and I'm like, "I'm fucking not interested
in how you can play.

1205
01:07:36.640 --> 01:07:38.961
"As long as you look the part, you'll do.

1206
01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:41.920
"By the way, you're doing
Top of The Pops on Wednesday."

1207
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:43.161
And that was his first thing.

1208
01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:46.560
# Some might say

1209
01:07:46.640 --> 01:07:50.122
# We will find a brighter day

1210
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:55.040
# Some might say

1211
01:07:55.120 --> 01:07:58.920
# We will find a brighter day

1212
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.680
# Yeah, 'cause I've been
standing at the station

1213
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:08.003
# In need of education in the rain

1214
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:13.520
# You made no preparation

1215
01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:16.763
# For my reputation once again

1216
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:20.604
# Some might say

1217
01:08:21.240 --> 01:08:22.526
# Some might say #

1218
01:08:23.360 --> 01:08:26.360
Morning Glory was incredibly quick and easy.

1219
01:08:26.440 --> 01:08:29.880
Rockfield, the posh studio,
fucking Queen and all that.

1220
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:32.360
Fucking Bohemian Rhapsody and all that.

1221
01:08:32.440 --> 01:08:35.840
Don't film me, Tim. Seriously.

1222
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:37.280
Film him, Tim, film him.

1223
01:08:37.360 --> 01:08:38.520
He's giving birth?

1224
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:39.931
I'm fucking knackered.

1225
01:08:40.200 --> 01:08:41.531
Right, play this track, man.

1226
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.445
This is the nerve centre,
the bridge as we call this.

1227
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:45.561
Full steam ahead!

1228
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:49.040
Oh, I don't know where a fucking light is.
I don't know where anything is at the moment.

1229
01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:51.240
But you know where the top is, don't you?

1230
01:08:51.320 --> 01:08:53.004
Because that's where we're going, Morris.

1231
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:56.531
- The topmost of the most popper most.
- That's us.

1232
01:08:57.480 --> 01:08:59.960
Noel had the songs and the arrangements

1233
01:09:00.040 --> 01:09:03.240
and he was totally in control of the band,

1234
01:09:03.320 --> 01:09:07.480
so that first week of Morning Glory,
we were doing a song a day.

1235
01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:10.160
Finished. Extraordinary.

1236
01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:11.526
He is like God, isn't he?

1237
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.400
I knew the songs were a lot more
richer than Definitely Maybe.

1238
01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:24.608
I knew they had, like,
definitely gone up a notch.

1239
01:09:30.040 --> 01:09:32.600
I loved Owen, mental Welshman.

1240
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:33.960
He was always setting fire to shit

1241
01:09:34.040 --> 01:09:37.160
and things were always blowing up
because he had it too loud.

1242
01:09:37.240 --> 01:09:41.768
No rule book, with his big, mad laugh, going,
"Yeah, let's fucking have it!"

1243
01:09:42.200 --> 01:09:44.487
They were the best times
I ever had recording.

1244
01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:46.644
It's gorgeous and sexy, and...

1245
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:52.841
Have your priorities right.

1246
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:58.400
Liam was extraordinary.

1247
01:09:58.480 --> 01:10:02.080
And they had this freaky thing where
Noel would play the song once

1248
01:10:02.160 --> 01:10:04.560
on an acoustic guitar in the control room,
to Liam,

1249
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:07.405
give him the words and he'd fucking sing it.

1250
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:09.640
Noel would listen to it once

1251
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.280
to check Liam's got the phrasing
for the entire song

1252
01:10:12.360 --> 01:10:14.124
that he's only just heard the once.

1253
01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:17.040
Noel would go, "Nice one, Liam,"

1254
01:10:17.120 --> 01:10:20.120
and there was always football on
when Oasis were recording.

1255
01:10:20.200 --> 01:10:21.200
Noel would fuck off,

1256
01:10:21.280 --> 01:10:22.805
Liam would just bang
another four tracks down.

1257
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:25.680
This would be, like, 1:00 in the afternoon.

1258
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:27.728
Cup of tea, lead vocal, done.

1259
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:29.840
I was like, "What the fuck?"

1260
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:32.287
You know, he's only heard the song once.

1261
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:35.400
Five songs, five days, man. Fucking amazing!

1262
01:10:36.080 --> 01:10:39.000
# Slowly walking down the hall

1263
01:10:39.080 --> 01:10:42.240
# Faster than a cannonball

1264
01:10:42.320 --> 01:10:46.760
# Where were you while we were getting high?

1265
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:50.160
# Someday you will find me

1266
01:10:50.240 --> 01:10:54.320
# Caught beneath the landslide

1267
01:10:54.400 --> 01:10:59.560
# In a champagne supernova in the sky

1268
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.960
# Someday you will find me

1269
01:11:03.040 --> 01:11:07.200
# Caught beneath the landslide

1270
01:11:07.280 --> 01:11:10.640
# In a champagne supernova

1271
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:13.680
# A champagne supernova

1272
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.640
# Because people believe

1273
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:22.568
# That they're going to
get away for the summer

1274
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.960
# But you and I, we live and die

1275
01:11:30.040 --> 01:11:32.200
# The world's still spinning round

1276
01:11:32.280 --> 01:11:36.330
# We don't know why

1277
01:11:36.440 --> 01:11:40.604
# Why, why, why, why #

1278
01:11:44.040 --> 01:11:45.041
No, we don't need that last one.

1279
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:47.881
Yeah!

1280
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.800
This is soaking the boats here.

1281
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:55.720
The boats are the Blues.

1282
01:11:55.800 --> 01:12:00.442
Come on, the Blues!

1283
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:03.808
Come on, the Pool!

1284
01:12:04.440 --> 01:12:06.124
It's the fucking curse of United!

1285
01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:08.866
Come on!

1286
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:25.369
Come on, you baldy twat!

1287
01:12:29.280 --> 01:12:30.400
Fucking, hey!

1288
01:12:30.480 --> 01:12:31.760
Come on!

1289
01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.129
Dalglish!

1290
01:12:36.360 --> 01:12:37.521
Dalglish!

1291
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:39.801
Come on then!

1292
01:12:43.320 --> 01:12:45.600
Good times, man. I loved it in that place,

1293
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:47.760
but it's not fucking prison, is it,
you know what I mean?

1294
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:49.720
If I'm not needed today,

1295
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:53.200
I'm hardly going to sit and fucking watch you
play guitar, you know what I mean, like?

1296
01:12:53.280 --> 01:12:54.640
I'm fucking going to the pub.

1297
01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:56.200
But it did cause arguments.

1298
01:12:56.280 --> 01:12:57.964
Nearly. That's that then, lad.

1299
01:12:58.640 --> 01:12:59.640
So it'd always be like that.

1300
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:02.769
"Right, he's doing his guitars,
he'll be in there all fucking day, won't he?

1301
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:04.360
"We can go to the fucking pub."

1302
01:13:04.440 --> 01:13:05.520
And he'd come out, and he'd be like,

1303
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:07.602
"All right, guys, what does everyone think...
Where is everyone?"

1304
01:13:09.080 --> 01:13:10.081
Where is everyone gone?

1305
01:13:12.160 --> 01:13:14.162
Yeah, I was a sucker for the pub, man.

1306
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.168
You go in there one day,
and you meet the local fucking drug dealer.

1307
01:13:18.480 --> 01:13:20.767
Yeah, I probably did bring
a few people back one night.

1308
01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:24.811
Probably a bad move,
because Noel was still working in the studio.

1309
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:27.600
No, I shouldn't have brought them back,

1310
01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:29.680
but I thought we were a rock 'n roll band,
you know what I mean?

1311
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:31.760
I thought anything goes in Oasis,
you know what I mean?

1312
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:34.047
Obviously, the other people had rules,
you know what I mean?

1313
01:13:35.400 --> 01:13:36.481
Fuck the rules, man.

1314
01:13:38.440 --> 01:13:43.880
# Sing a sad song in a lonely place

1315
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.600
# Try to put a word in for me...

1316
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:49.880
As I recall,
Liam was going pretty fucking mad.

1317
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:53.440
Somebody let a fire extinguisher off
in the farmhouse.

1318
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:56.760
I think maybe one of my guitars
got damaged, and I blamed him.

1319
01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:00.000
It just exploded into a big
fucking bunch of chaos

1320
01:14:00.080 --> 01:14:02.160
like you've never seen, man.

1321
01:14:02.240 --> 01:14:04.040
I ended up having a proper fight with Liam.

1322
01:14:04.120 --> 01:14:06.885
I mean, it might have been the
biggest fight we ever had.

1323
01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:10.925
I remember smashing his head
in with a cricket bat, yeah.

1324
01:14:11.240 --> 01:14:14.120
# What we don't touch we cannot feel...

1325
01:14:14.200 --> 01:14:16.320
The whole studio got smashed to pieces.

1326
01:14:16.400 --> 01:14:18.680
There's like loads of little bits
in the corner went, "Bzzt."

1327
01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:21.480
Everything just got fucking blitzed.

1328
01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:25.640
I'm not generally an obnoxious person, dude,

1329
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:28.600
but somebody must've got on my tits,
you know what I mean?

1330
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:29.800
Probably me not giving a fuck

1331
01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:32.406
and him trying to write
fucking Bohemian Rhapsody.

1332
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:34.921
And me sort of just going,
"Bollocks! Let's have it!"

1333
01:14:36.280 --> 01:14:40.560
I do remember jumping out of a window,
driving off with Whitey.

1334
01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:45.160
Liam appeared out of nowhere
and threw a dustbin at the car,

1335
01:14:45.240 --> 01:14:48.560
and we'd only known Alan
about two weeks and he was saying,

1336
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:50.961
"It can't be over, I've only just joined."

1337
01:14:51.080 --> 01:14:55.000
We were like, "No, no, no, no.
This is going to happen all the time."

1338
01:14:55.080 --> 01:14:58.200
And he was going, "Fucking hell, mate.
What kind of fucking band is this?"

1339
01:14:58.280 --> 01:15:00.328
Go and fucking join The Troggs!

1340
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:04.680
# We're throwing it all away #

1341
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:06.360
Yeah, it was terrible.

1342
01:15:06.440 --> 01:15:10.720
It happened, man, but there was no need
for the cricket fucking bat around my head,

1343
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:11.881
you know what I mean?

1344
01:15:14.240 --> 01:15:17.760
Every time there was ever a scene in Oasis,

1345
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:22.080
when we'd all got back together
it was like nothing had ever happened.

1346
01:15:22.160 --> 01:15:23.720
We had a tour booked

1347
01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.400
and we were rehearsing in Brixton Academy.

1348
01:15:26.480 --> 01:15:29.400
It was all fine.
Me and Guigs got a taxi home.

1349
01:15:29.480 --> 01:15:32.404
The next day, Guigs just doesn't show up.

1350
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:36.730
Marcus arrives and says,
"Guigs wants to leave the band."

1351
01:15:38.200 --> 01:15:40.960
What's happened to Guigs
is he's had a bit of a fucking breakdown.

1352
01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:42.760
That's when you kick yourself, you know.

1353
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.240
When you're that blinkered
that you couldn't stop

1354
01:15:45.320 --> 01:15:47.641
and notice that your mate
wasn't feeling right.

1355
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:50.600
Any kind of chaos going on around,

1356
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:52.040
he would have shot down,
do you know what I mean?

1357
01:15:52.120 --> 01:15:53.360
Bass players are like that.

1358
01:15:53.440 --> 01:15:55.040
Guigs is a gentle soul, you know what I mean?

1359
01:15:55.120 --> 01:15:57.520
He wasn't like me and Noel, or like Bonehead.

1360
01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:59.920
You know, we were fucking pretty mental.

1361
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.900
He was suffering from nervous exhaustion...

1362
01:16:03.480 --> 01:16:05.520
...as rock stars always are.

1363
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:07.200
"My nerves are exhausted."

1364
01:16:07.280 --> 01:16:10.600
Or "My exhaustion is fucking
getting me nervous," I don't know.

1365
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:12.967
I never had it myself. It's a funny thing.

1366
01:16:13.440 --> 01:16:14.760
Maybe he smoked too much weed.

1367
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:17.560
Maybe he just needed a breather,
you know what I mean?

1368
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:21.600
We weren't the kind of band that was like,
"Oh, poor Guigs," or "Poor Liam."

1369
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.640
It was like, "Fuck that cunt!
We've got shit to do, man."

1370
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:25.920
We went for Scott MacLeod

1371
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.970
from a little band that we'd played with
in the past called The Ya Ya's.

1372
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:31.240
What a great job he got, didn't he?

1373
01:16:31.320 --> 01:16:33.163
"Do you fancy being bass player in Oasis?"
"Fucking yes!"

1374
01:16:35.240 --> 01:16:38.480
I don't know how long it was before we
got on the plane to go to the States,

1375
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:39.925
but even that was chaos.

1376
01:16:49.480 --> 01:16:52.280
We were on the way to New York
to do David Letterman.

1377
01:16:52.360 --> 01:16:54.600
Maggie, our tour manager,
God bless that woman,

1378
01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:58.040
we put her through absolute fucking hell,

1379
01:16:58.120 --> 01:16:59.680
she came in kind of half-laughing, going,

1380
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.520
"You're not going to guess
what's just happened.

1381
01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:04.285
"Scott's just told me
he wants to, like, quit."

1382
01:17:04.400 --> 01:17:06.440
And I remember going to the back lounge
and saying to him,

1383
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:08.120
"Mate, what? What? What?"

1384
01:17:08.200 --> 01:17:12.360
And he said these words,
"I'm just missing my bird."

1385
01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:14.960
You know, there's people who are cut
out for it and there's people that ain't.

1386
01:17:15.040 --> 01:17:18.000
He might have just gone
"You know what, this is not for me."

1387
01:17:18.080 --> 01:17:21.451
It's either that or his bird must have
been fit as fuck, you know what I mean?

1388
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:24.080
I always take things like that.

1389
01:17:24.160 --> 01:17:26.800
I would always laugh my way through it
and think, even you know,

1390
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:29.200
as you're driving into America
to do David Letterman,

1391
01:17:29.280 --> 01:17:31.840
and the bass player that's standing in

1392
01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:34.840
for the bass player
who's got nervous exhaustion, is saying,

1393
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:37.681
"I can't handle it any more."
You're laughing, going,

1394
01:17:38.040 --> 01:17:41.520
"We must be the biggest bunch
of cunts in the world,

1395
01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.320
"because our mate is fucking
sat at home watching the cricket,

1396
01:17:45.400 --> 01:17:46.880
"he don't want to be in a band with us.

1397
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:50.282
"This fucking clown here,
who's on the dole in England,

1398
01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:52.040
"he don't want to be either! What?

1399
01:17:52.120 --> 01:17:55.283
"I mean, are we like the biggest
three cunts in the world?"

1400
01:17:56.080 --> 01:17:57.280
It didn't deter us.

1401
01:17:57.360 --> 01:18:00.040
We got to New York. Bonehead got up.

1402
01:18:00.120 --> 01:18:02.646
"You're playing bass
and we do it as a four-piece."

1403
01:18:03.360 --> 01:18:06.200
Our next guests are the most popular
rock 'n roll band in Britain today.

1404
01:18:06.280 --> 01:18:08.840
Can you guys prove it, seriously?
How would we know? Are you really?

1405
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:12.000
Okay, I'll take your word for it,
all right, okay, I believe you.

1406
01:18:12.080 --> 01:18:14.120
I'm going to believe you this time,
but if there's trouble later

1407
01:18:14.200 --> 01:18:15.240
with the equipment missing...

1408
01:18:15.320 --> 01:18:16.526
All right, just relax.

1409
01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:20.446
# Need a little time to wake up

1410
01:18:21.480 --> 01:18:24.800
# Need a little time to wake up, wake up

1411
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:28.000
# Need a little time to wake up

1412
01:18:28.080 --> 01:18:31.600
# Need a little time to rest your mind

1413
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.082
# You know you should
so I guess that you might as well

1414
01:18:38.240 --> 01:18:41.360
# What's the story, morning glory?

1415
01:18:41.440 --> 01:18:42.566
# Well? #

1416
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:44.560
Being in the best band

1417
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:46.880
and the most important band
of your generation

1418
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:49.042
shouldn't be a walk in the park,
you know what I mean?

1419
01:18:50.120 --> 01:18:52.440
We come back to England,

1420
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:54.800
we got these gigs coming up,
they're sold out.

1421
01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:57.804
They're going to be monumental.
We didn't have a bass player.

1422
01:18:58.560 --> 01:18:59.846
Radio One...

1423
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.000
The biggest ever indoor gig in Britain

1424
01:19:03.080 --> 01:19:07.280
will rock the capital tomorrow night
as Oasis roll into London.

1425
01:19:07.360 --> 01:19:10.680
They'll play two blistering sets
over the weekend at Earls Court

1426
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.161
in front of nearly 40,000 fans.

1427
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:14.880
- Hey, Noel?
- Hello.

1428
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:16.166
Rumours of a split, or what?

1429
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:17.960
A banana split, yeah.

1430
01:19:18.040 --> 01:19:19.440
Yeah, where's the rest of
the band tonight then?

1431
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:20.521
Who cares?

1432
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:23.411
Marcus was saying
"We'll just cancel everything,"

1433
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:26.080
to a chorus of,
"Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! What the fuck?

1434
01:19:26.160 --> 01:19:27.880
"That's not how we run shit."

1435
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:32.080
If my fucking mum has got to play bass,
that gig is happening.

1436
01:19:32.160 --> 01:19:36.720
I think we gave Guigs first refusal, and said,
"Are you going to do this gig, or what?"

1437
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:38.320
I remember just getting a message like,

1438
01:19:38.400 --> 01:19:40.000
"Guigsy is going to come back
and do the gig."

1439
01:19:40.080 --> 01:19:41.480
Hallelujah!

1440
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:43.000
But then there was a part of me thinking,

1441
01:19:43.080 --> 01:19:44.720
"Oh, God, is he going
to come on and just collapse?"

1442
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:45.926
It was pretty hairy.

1443
01:19:46.440 --> 01:19:47.840
We were never fussed about it, it was like,

1444
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:51.320
"Have a nice fucking rest, did you,
you lazy fucker?

1445
01:19:51.400 --> 01:19:53.040
"I didn't even know you'd fucking gone!

1446
01:19:53.120 --> 01:19:56.000
"What, you had a fucking breakdown?
Fuck, when did that happen?"

1447
01:19:56.080 --> 01:20:00.040
Look, Oasis wasn't for wimps,
so I was glad Guigs came back.

1448
01:20:00.120 --> 01:20:02.280
You know what I mean,
he was part of the band,

1449
01:20:02.360 --> 01:20:04.044
but the show must go on.

1450
01:20:23.320 --> 01:20:25.561
Are we going to have it away in
here tonight, or what? Come on!

1451
01:20:56.560 --> 01:21:00.400
# I don't know what it is
that makes me feel alive

1452
01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:04.480
# I don't know how to wake
the things that sleep inside

1453
01:21:04.560 --> 01:21:10.044
# I only want to see the light
that shines behind your eyes

1454
01:21:12.480 --> 01:21:16.360
# There are many things
that I would like to know

1455
01:21:16.440 --> 01:21:20.280
# And there are many places that I wish to go

1456
01:21:20.360 --> 01:21:26.049
# But everything's depending
on the way the wind may blow

1457
01:21:32.400 --> 01:21:35.609
# Because we need each other

1458
01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:39.040
# We believe in one another

1459
01:21:39.120 --> 01:21:42.960
# And I know we're going to uncover

1460
01:21:43.040 --> 01:21:45.281
# What's sleeping in our soul...

1461
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:49.000
There were days when you were in the zone,
you know what I mean,

1462
01:21:49.080 --> 01:21:51.000
where you could just stand
perfectly fucking still

1463
01:21:51.080 --> 01:21:53.400
while there's all this chaos
going on around you

1464
01:21:53.480 --> 01:21:55.400
and all these kids are just fucking
leaping about

1465
01:21:55.480 --> 01:21:58.051
and the sound's like pumping, roaring.

1466
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.600
I'd just be stood completely fucking still
like a boxer just thinking,

1467
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:05.720
"This is the best feeling in the world."

1468
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:06.801
Pure control.

1469
01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:12.250
Not feeling the need to join the madness.

1470
01:22:13.120 --> 01:22:16.169
Just absolute fucking still.

1471
01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:22.084
# Because we need

1472
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:25.091
# Because we believe #

1473
01:22:37.800 --> 01:22:38.801
Cheers.

1474
01:22:43.280 --> 01:22:48.207
Liam Gallagher, Sunday,
pre-fucking the Liquid Room.

1475
01:22:50.400 --> 01:22:51.401
One word?

1476
01:22:53.040 --> 01:22:54.040
Sausages. What?

1477
01:22:57.720 --> 01:22:59.960
Liam was always cooler than me, I think.

1478
01:23:00.040 --> 01:23:02.360
He had a better walk
and clothes looked better on him

1479
01:23:02.440 --> 01:23:04.600
and he was taller,
and he had a better haircut.

1480
01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:06.281
And he was funnier.

1481
01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:11.360
Liam clearly would have liked
to have had my talent as a songwriter.

1482
01:23:19.120 --> 01:23:22.000
And there's not a day goes by
when I don't wish

1483
01:23:22.080 --> 01:23:23.650
I could rock a parka like that man.

1484
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.240
I know Noel thinks I'm doing okay.

1485
01:23:33.320 --> 01:23:36.200
We didn't need to pat each other
on the back and go, "Oh, you're great."

1486
01:23:36.280 --> 01:23:38.248
Me and him are like telepathic,
you know what I mean?

1487
01:23:39.040 --> 01:23:40.040
Kiss for the camera.

1488
01:23:40.120 --> 01:23:43.120
There was a period where
he was the greatest singer in the world,

1489
01:23:43.200 --> 01:23:44.840
added to that, the greatest front man,

1490
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.160
added to that he was a fucking
good-looking boy as well.

1491
01:23:47.240 --> 01:23:48.800
They were the magic years, you know.

1492
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.950
The trick is keeping that shit going.

1493
01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:55.840
What's all that about Liam
walking off the stage or something?

1494
01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:56.920
What happened there?

1495
01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:58.440
He does it all the time, now. He does it...

1496
01:23:58.520 --> 01:23:59.521
It's part of the show?

1497
01:23:59.960 --> 01:24:01.644
Liam, Liam!

1498
01:24:02.280 --> 01:24:04.320
It never dawned on me to be a singer

1499
01:24:04.400 --> 01:24:06.440
until he started walking off stage
in the middle of gigs

1500
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:08.280
and it's kind of like,
"Oh, fucking hell," you know.

1501
01:24:08.360 --> 01:24:11.011
"We've got another 40 minutes left here,
someone had better do something."

1502
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:30.560
I had problems, man, with my throat.
Just probably caning it too much.

1503
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:32.480
Fucking screaming, shouting, I don't know.

1504
01:24:32.560 --> 01:24:36.520
Singing them songs the way I sing them
is like being in a boxing match.

1505
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:38.090
It takes its wear and tear.

1506
01:24:39.240 --> 01:24:42.360
And, of course, what happened,
nine times out of ten,

1507
01:24:42.440 --> 01:24:44.160
was I'd take over.

1508
01:24:44.240 --> 01:24:46.000
But the more you'd finish the gigs,

1509
01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:48.162
the more it enabled him to do it,

1510
01:24:48.280 --> 01:24:49.600
and then he'd just do it
at the drop of a hat.

1511
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:51.648
Just give us a minute, right?

1512
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:53.728
I'm going to have
to sing for you, right, sorry.

1513
01:24:56.160 --> 01:24:58.800
I never ever could not be arsed
getting on that stage.

1514
01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:01.201
I fucking take massive offence to that.

1515
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:06.480
That's one of the reasons
why I had to start doing vocals,

1516
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:07.561
you know what I mean?

1517
01:25:07.680 --> 01:25:10.240
And then I thought,
"Oh, hang on a minute. This is all right.

1518
01:25:10.320 --> 01:25:13.403
"That girl's staring at me,
that's even better."

1519
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:15.720
Wonderwall, actually you guys
have been doing for a while.

1520
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:17.800
- Noel's been doing it acoustically.
- Yeah.

1521
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:20.000
How did that come about?

1522
01:25:20.080 --> 01:25:23.040
He just decided he wanted
to do an acoustic song, which is cool.

1523
01:25:23.120 --> 01:25:25.200
But now when we get back to England
we're going to spread it out,

1524
01:25:25.280 --> 01:25:26.560
we're going to do it as a band.

1525
01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:29.320
- Are you still having a good time?
- Yeah, I'm rocking, yeah.

1526
01:25:29.400 --> 01:25:31.480
When I'm allowed to do the job,

1527
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:33.640
that thing's good, yeah, I'm happy.

1528
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.722
When I'm not allowed to do the job,
I'm not happy.

1529
01:25:38.400 --> 01:25:41.000
He's a great fucking songwriter
and always will be,

1530
01:25:41.080 --> 01:25:43.000
but singing's my gig.

1531
01:25:43.080 --> 01:25:44.800
If you're going to start
singing the fucking songs

1532
01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.724
as well as writing them, what am I doing,
making the fucking tea?

1533
01:25:49.080 --> 01:25:50.880
All the coming off,
and the "I'm doing this tune."

1534
01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:54.600
I was walking on stage like a fucking yo-yo,
you know what I mean, half the time.

1535
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.000
"Here he comes, here he goes, here he comes.

1536
01:25:57.080 --> 01:25:59.720
"Leave it out! You're taking the piss, mate!"

1537
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:03.600
So therefore there will be a bit of frustration
and the wheels might come off tonight.

1538
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:06.761
I've left once.

1539
01:26:07.920 --> 01:26:08.920
For a long period?

1540
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:10.920
A couple of weeks. Shouldn't have come back.

1541
01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:12.760
Biggest mistake I ever made was coming back.

1542
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:14.720
Because Morning Glory
would have been my first solo album

1543
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:16.245
and I'd have had a load of fucking money.

1544
01:26:16.480 --> 01:26:18.720
Yeah, I mean, you know,
Our Kid has left on a couple of occasions,

1545
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:22.680
and been sacked on a couple of occasions
actually. But, yeah, I suppose...

1546
01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:25.440
How does that work?
Four-fifths of vote sort of thing?

1547
01:26:25.520 --> 01:26:28.171
Oh, no, I just sack him. "You? Out!"

1548
01:26:29.160 --> 01:26:32.840
Noel said in the music papers
the other day about

1549
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.446
- "Only a couple more records."
- About him leaving the band?

1550
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:38.440
I think he's got loads and loads
of albums left inside him

1551
01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:41.880
and us as a band have got
loads and loads of gigs to do

1552
01:26:41.960 --> 01:26:44.400
and things to do, and can make them,
you know what I mean?

1553
01:26:44.480 --> 01:26:48.000
I don't feel no way we're splitting up,
right. I'm not into that at all.

1554
01:26:48.080 --> 01:26:51.000
But if he feels it, then he feels it,
you know what I mean?

1555
01:26:51.080 --> 01:26:53.162
A good slap around the jaw,
man, will change his mind.

1556
01:26:55.200 --> 01:26:59.046
This is yet another song
with shit lyrics... Wonderwall.

1557
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:17.080
# Today was going to be the day
they were going to throw it back to you

1558
01:27:17.160 --> 01:27:22.080
# By now, you should have somehow
realised what you've got to do

1559
01:27:22.160 --> 01:27:28.088
# I don't believe that anybody
feels the way I do about you now...

1560
01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:31.880
Morning Glory took on a life
of its own after Wonderwall

1561
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:35.640
and then Don't Look Back In Anger
came consecutively as singles.

1562
01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.120
Then, it just blew up all over the world.

1563
01:27:38.200 --> 01:27:40.771
# And all the lights that
lead the way are blinding

1564
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.600
# There are many things
that I would like to say to you

1565
01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:48.011
# But I don't know how

1566
01:27:49.320 --> 01:27:51.004
# I don't know how

1567
01:27:52.080 --> 01:27:55.520
# I said maybe

1568
01:27:55.600 --> 01:27:56.720
# You're going to be the one that saves me

1569
01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:00.080
The songs on that record,
they're extraordinary songs,

1570
01:28:00.160 --> 01:28:03.080
and they're not extraordinary songs
because of anything that I did.

1571
01:28:03.160 --> 01:28:05.760
I only wrote them, and we only played them.

1572
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:09.800
It's the millions of people since
who fucking sing them back to you to this day

1573
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:11.644
that have made them extraordinary.

1574
01:28:15.480 --> 01:28:19.690
# Today was going to be the day
but they'll never throw it all back to you

1575
01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:25.647
# By now, you should have somehow
realised what you're not to do

1576
01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:32.086
# I don't believe that anybody
feels the way I do about you now

1577
01:28:32.320 --> 01:28:35.040
There's nothing better than singing
them songs, man, to the people.

1578
01:28:35.120 --> 01:28:36.840
Fucking blast their souls.

1579
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:38.560
And them just going fucking apeshit.

1580
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:40.768
# And all the roads
we have to walk are winding

1581
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:46.240
# And all the lights
that light the way are blinding

1582
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.720
# There are many things
that I would like to say to you

1583
01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:53.320
# But I don't know how

1584
01:28:53.400 --> 01:28:55.880
# I don't know how

1585
01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:58.964
# Because maybe

1586
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:03.844
# You're going to be the one that saves me

1587
01:29:04.320 --> 01:29:11.249
# And after all, you're my Wonderwall

1588
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:18.440
# I said maybe

1589
01:29:18.520 --> 01:29:27.840
# You're going to be the one that saves me

1590
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.811
# You're going to be the one that saves me #

1591
01:29:41.280 --> 01:29:43.080
Maine Road, and the streets surrounding it

1592
01:29:43.160 --> 01:29:46.209
really are a stone's throw
from where I was born.

1593
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:49.842
That really was a homecoming gig,
you know, it was, for all of us.

1594
01:29:53.570 --> 01:29:55.891
Cheers, thank you very much.

1595
01:29:56.200 --> 01:29:58.920
I'm a Man City supporter
and have been all my life.

1596
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:02.721
To be offered to play at a gig like that,
it was unbelievable.

1597
01:30:04.040 --> 01:30:08.170
We still felt like a cult band
selling out two nights at a stadium.

1598
01:30:10.320 --> 01:30:13.403
From the greatest band in the world to
the greatest fans in the world. Good night!

1599
01:30:16.120 --> 01:30:19.440
I remember sitting in a box on my own

1600
01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:22.126
watching the stadium emptying,
with the floodlights on,

1601
01:30:22.240 --> 01:30:23.760
trying to appreciate it,

1602
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.002
thinking, "Where does it go from here?"

1603
01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:29.081
But then almost immediately,
bang, you're into a party.

1604
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.800
Still to come, it's gone
thirteen times platinum,

1605
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.240
it charted a year ago today,
is it the greatest album ever written?

1606
01:30:36.320 --> 01:30:39.080
I think it's fair to say that
(What's The Story) Morning Glory

1607
01:30:39.160 --> 01:30:41.760
is probably one of the
biggest-selling albums of all time.

1608
01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:44.880
Without doubt, the biggest band around
in Britain at the moment is Oasis.

1609
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:47.964
The fastest-selling album of the decade.

1610
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:50.011
What? Are you asking me if I'm happy?

1611
01:30:50.160 --> 01:30:52.401
Listen, I've got £87 million in the bank.

1612
01:30:52.640 --> 01:30:55.200
I've got a Rolls Royce,
I've got three stalkers,

1613
01:30:55.280 --> 01:30:57.680
I'm about to go on the board
at Manchester City.

1614
01:30:57.760 --> 01:30:59.800
I'm part of the greatest band in the world.

1615
01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:02.770
Am I happy with that?
No I'm not! I want more!

1616
01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:12.840
Well, we've got the Oasis brothers here.

1617
01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:14.320
- What do you think about it tonight?
- Boring.

1618
01:31:14.400 --> 01:31:16.080
- I thought we should have won more.
- Really?

1619
01:31:16.160 --> 01:31:18.240
Yeah. We should have been voted
the Best Rap Artist.

1620
01:31:18.320 --> 01:31:19.960
I thought he should have been voted Best Band

1621
01:31:20.040 --> 01:31:21.769
because he's got seven personalities.

1622
01:31:25.200 --> 01:31:26.240
Oasis.

1623
01:31:26.320 --> 01:31:28.288
- Oasis.
- Oasis, Wonderwall.

1624
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:35.120
What does a Brit Award mean? Fuck all.

1625
01:31:35.200 --> 01:31:38.761
In the grand scheme of things,
all that shit was irrelevant.

1626
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:43.248
Has-beens shouldn't present
fucking awards to gonna-bes.

1627
01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:50.560
One of the heads of the Brits said,
"This will ruin your career."

1628
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:52.280
You fucking bell-end!

1629
01:31:52.360 --> 01:31:54.601
If anyone's going to ruin my career,
it's going to be me, not you.

1630
01:32:00.160 --> 01:32:02.080
The one voted for by the fans means a lot.

1631
01:32:02.160 --> 01:32:04.322
Anything that's voted for by fans is special.

1632
01:32:04.440 --> 01:32:08.001
Anything that's voted for by idiots,
corporate pigs, means nothing to us.

1633
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.120
You know, because really the music,
fuck all that.

1634
01:32:11.200 --> 01:32:14.124
Writing songs is difficult.
Talking shit is easy.

1635
01:32:15.240 --> 01:32:17.640
When I do an interview,
I'm there to be a fucking gob-shite

1636
01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:20.121
and to cause as much fucking trouble
as possible.

1637
01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:24.080
As soon as people realise that the majority
of people in this country take drugs,

1638
01:32:24.160 --> 01:32:25.969
then, I mean, the better off we'll all be.

1639
01:32:26.080 --> 01:32:28.840
Everybody does it.
You do it, you do it, you do it.

1640
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.280
You do it, you do it,
you do it and you do it.

1641
01:32:31.360 --> 01:32:34.440
He doesn't do it... Because he's a Buddhist.

1642
01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:37.000
You know, it's like getting up
and having a cup of tea in the morning.

1643
01:32:37.200 --> 01:32:38.964
...is as common as having a cup of tea.

1644
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:41.640
It was immediately condemned by politicians

1645
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:43.768
with one minister calling him
a "spoiled brat".

1646
01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:45.920
The press lapped that shit up

1647
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:49.840
because no one had ever come along
that was even remotely like us.

1648
01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:52.810
We were the biggest band in the country

1649
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:54.126
and we didn't give a fuck.

1650
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.120
I was asked a question, I gave my opinions

1651
01:32:56.200 --> 01:32:58.089
and there's nothing that them
or anyone else can do about it.

1652
01:32:59.040 --> 01:33:01.480
We don't really care what they
write about us in the press

1653
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:03.040
as long as we're on the cover.

1654
01:33:03.120 --> 01:33:04.720
They can write anything
they want about us inside,

1655
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:06.848
but as long as we are on the cover,
then it don't matter.

1656
01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.480
It'd do your head in sometimes when they
were writing shit about you and that

1657
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:11.960
and fucking outside your house and stuff,

1658
01:33:12.040 --> 01:33:13.849
but that's what I signed up for,
you know what I mean?

1659
01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:16.931
Liam? Can we have a quick picture? Liam?

1660
01:33:18.120 --> 01:33:20.360
You know the story, it's in the papers,
that's what's going on.

1661
01:33:20.440 --> 01:33:22.240
Second to the singing was being the ultimate,

1662
01:33:22.320 --> 01:33:26.081
number-one fucking rock star in this
fucking country and that's what I was.

1663
01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:29.520
I remember going in a pub
some days at like 11:00.

1664
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:31.680
By 12:30,
people would be dancing on the tables

1665
01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:33.205
and snorting cocaine, you know what I mean?

1666
01:33:33.320 --> 01:33:35.840
You're like, "Fucking hell, I only went in
for a fucking pint and a read of the paper,

1667
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:38.002
"now fucking all hell's broke loose,"
you know what I mean?

1668
01:33:39.240 --> 01:33:40.890
It did make life quite difficult, though.

1669
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:47.120
The day that it steps over into the tabloids
and then stays there for years,

1670
01:33:47.200 --> 01:33:50.363
then you've gone to the dark side
and then the clock is ticking then.

1671
01:33:52.240 --> 01:33:56.160
It had been billed as one of the most
sensational trials in pop music history.

1672
01:33:56.240 --> 01:33:58.760
Tony McCarroll, the drummer sacked by Oasis,

1673
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:01.280
going to court in search
of a multi-million-pound slice

1674
01:34:01.360 --> 01:34:02.930
of the band's annual earnings.

1675
01:34:04.120 --> 01:34:05.400
When shit like that starts out,

1676
01:34:05.480 --> 01:34:08.200
you do start thinking
all the fun is taken out of it.

1677
01:34:08.280 --> 01:34:09.600
You start a band with the best intentions

1678
01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:12.570
of just trying to get a big telly
and a fit bird...

1679
01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:15.680
And the next thing is
is everybody's hovering around you

1680
01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:18.960
with leather man-bags
full of shit for you to sign.

1681
01:34:19.040 --> 01:34:20.405
"How did it get to this?"

1682
01:34:22.040 --> 01:34:23.440
And that was the change.

1683
01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:25.720
Your mates are being slowly
discarded to the side.

1684
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:26.847
It's a business now you're in.

1685
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.400
The people behind the scenes
were determined to make it a brand.

1686
01:34:30.480 --> 01:34:32.130
It was even hard to get on
the guest list some days.

1687
01:34:33.080 --> 01:34:36.760
At this point,
the dynamic has changed that much.

1688
01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:39.286
It's now in the hands of the industry.

1689
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:44.480
And I think the spirit
of any band rapidly disappears

1690
01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:46.528
and it's all about the money.

1691
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:53.480
Here we have Mr Mark Coyle
sat looking rather subdued in the corner.

1692
01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:54.560
Fuck off!

1693
01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:56.520
Can you say that a little more graphically?

1694
01:34:56.600 --> 01:34:57.640
Fuck off!

1695
01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:00.880
Thank you, and here we have Liam...

1696
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.200
Always chipper in the morning,
this young man.

1697
01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:04.760
Can't get the bastard down.

1698
01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:06.280
We tried several times.

1699
01:35:06.360 --> 01:35:08.120
We've put monkeys on his back,

1700
01:35:08.200 --> 01:35:10.885
a cement mixer once
and we still couldn't get the bastard down.

1701
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:12.331
Look at that kipper!

1702
01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:13.800
When you're in a bubble,

1703
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.040
sometimes you need a bit of guidance,
don't you?

1704
01:35:16.120 --> 01:35:19.040
I felt like all the people that were with us
at the beginning

1705
01:35:19.120 --> 01:35:20.610
were kind of getting pushed out a bit.

1706
01:35:22.120 --> 01:35:26.080
I think the best times
are when everybody's together

1707
01:35:26.160 --> 01:35:27.800
and that gang is out on the road.

1708
01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:30.929
They're the best of times,
doing them little gigs.

1709
01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:35.731
It does lose something when,
you know, the industry grabs a hold.

1710
01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:41.324
I do recall Mark coming up to me and saying,
"I don't think I can do it any more."

1711
01:35:42.080 --> 01:35:45.766
People were regularly coming
into the dressing room and going,

1712
01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:47.609
"Fucking hell, that was loud."

1713
01:35:48.480 --> 01:35:52.371
I went to see a doctor
with my ears, got ringing ears.

1714
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:59.366
The doctor says to me,
"Stop doing this, because you will go deaf."

1715
01:36:00.280 --> 01:36:04.444
So I left, and that was
the end of my live life.

1716
01:36:05.120 --> 01:36:06.770
I'd had enough as well, I think.

1717
01:36:07.360 --> 01:36:10.600
I think he said to me in the past that
he thought it had got a bit too big for him.

1718
01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:13.040
I really admire him for that.

1719
01:36:13.120 --> 01:36:15.000
I think it was a bit more than that, I think.

1720
01:36:15.080 --> 01:36:17.321
It was just getting a bit
too corporate for him.

1721
01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:21.520
You know, one minute you're fucking
hanging with your mates, having a craic,

1722
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:24.809
but when management come into it,
it changes, doesn't it?

1723
01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:28.889
If anybody was a fifth member
of that band, it was Mark.

1724
01:36:30.280 --> 01:36:34.080
Yeah, and it made me a little bit sad
that he wasn't going to be on tour any more.

1725
01:36:34.160 --> 01:36:37.800
Soon after, Phil Smith quit.

1726
01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:41.200
I still can't work out what was going
through his fucking head at the time.

1727
01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:46.200
In the early days, it was the five band,
Coyle and Phil, that was it.

1728
01:36:46.280 --> 01:36:50.520
Yeah, it's a shame that he wasn't around,
but it's not the end of the fucking world.

1729
01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:52.568
Beginning of a new world,
you know what I mean?

1730
01:36:53.320 --> 01:36:56.880
The machine goes on, and the band goes on.

1731
01:36:56.960 --> 01:36:58.610
I am not getting in the way of that.

1732
01:37:00.120 --> 01:37:02.327
Walking away from that,
I'll never get over that.

1733
01:37:04.440 --> 01:37:06.249
But it was the right thing to do.

1734
01:37:57.440 --> 01:38:00.760
You can listen to their albums,
but when you go to a gig

1735
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:02.569
and there's thousands and thousands
of people,

1736
01:38:03.440 --> 01:38:04.800
that's when it brings it home.

1737
01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:07.531
That's really when I feel most proud of them.

1738
01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:13.360
# Slip inside the eye of your mind

1739
01:38:13.440 --> 01:38:18.048
# Don't you know you might find
a better place to play

1740
01:38:20.160 --> 01:38:23.480
# You said that you'd never been

1741
01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:28.521
# But all the things that you've seen
are going to fade away

1742
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:34.089
# Going to start a revolution from my bed

1743
01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:39.088
# 'Cause you said the brains
I had went to my head

1744
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:44.321
# Step outside, summertime's in bloom

1745
01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:50.880
# Stand up beside the fireplace
Take that look from off your face

1746
01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:56.888
# 'Cause you ain't ever
going to burn my heart out

1747
01:39:01.240 --> 01:39:04.760
# And so Sally can wait

1748
01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:09.528
# She knows it's too late
as we're walking on by

1749
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:15.491
# Her soul slides away

1750
01:39:16.200 --> 01:39:20.842
# But don't look back in anger
I heard you say

1751
01:39:22.160 --> 01:39:26.643
I remember those gigs at The Point
being, like, wildly emotional.

1752
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:31.082
It was breathtaking, the kind
of energy and the vibe in the room.

1753
01:39:32.120 --> 01:39:35.681
# My soul slides away

1754
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:42.520
# But don't look back in anger

1755
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:45.410
# Don't look back in anger

1756
01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:49.845
# I heard you say

1757
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:57.968
# Least not today #

1758
01:40:05.120 --> 01:40:08.720
It's that immigrant thing, isn't it?
It's that sense of identity.

1759
01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:13.010
Ireland saw them as their own,
and everybody was in such a good mood.

1760
01:40:15.320 --> 01:40:18.847
So we got back to the hotel, right,
so there was loads of us in this bar.

1761
01:40:20.360 --> 01:40:21.880
That hotel was fairly public

1762
01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:25.080
because Ireland didn't really have security
around rock bands them days.

1763
01:40:25.160 --> 01:40:27.360
Anyone could walk in off the street.

1764
01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:30.120
My dad, we'd seen him skulking around
and I thought,

1765
01:40:30.200 --> 01:40:32.043
"What the fuck is this going on?"

1766
01:40:32.480 --> 01:40:34.960
Someone turned round and said,
"Your old fella's over there,

1767
01:40:35.040 --> 01:40:38.040
"with a journalist,
trying to get summat going."

1768
01:40:38.120 --> 01:40:39.326
And I was about to kill him.

1769
01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:44.720
Oh, that was awful, that.
I couldn't believe that that happened

1770
01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:46.370
because it really spoiled their night.

1771
01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:49.520
There was a scene.

1772
01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:51.800
I was trying to take the dignified approach.

1773
01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:54.840
Fuck him, do you know what I mean?
He doesn't mean anything to me any more.

1774
01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:56.920
We were better than that.

1775
01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.200
Noel was saying to Liam, "Do not react."

1776
01:40:59.280 --> 01:41:00.920
He's at one end,
and Noel and Liam are at the other

1777
01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:03.400
and Liam's going,
"I'm going to fucking kill him."

1778
01:41:03.480 --> 01:41:05.120
And that's when they locked horns.

1779
01:41:05.200 --> 01:41:07.771
"Don't fucking react.
You're not going to react." You know.

1780
01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:13.162
I was fucking steadfastly
not going to get involved.

1781
01:41:13.280 --> 01:41:15.362
I did think Liam was a little bit upset.

1782
01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:19.960
To give Noel his due credit,
he contained Liam

1783
01:41:20.040 --> 01:41:24.240
because Liam would have gone for him
and Noel protected his brother.

1784
01:41:24.320 --> 01:41:25.920
Got him out of there

1785
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:28.810
because they were obviously looking for,
you know, the big fight.

1786
01:41:30.160 --> 01:41:33.004
I probably got calmed down by Our Kid,
I think.

1787
01:41:33.240 --> 01:41:34.400
It's just pathetic, you know what I mean?

1788
01:41:34.480 --> 01:41:36.760
In front of the press with your son,
you know what I mean?

1789
01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:38.365
It's like, "See you later, mate."

1790
01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:42.760
Round about that time, there was a story
every couple of fucking months.

1791
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:45.840
"Poor old fucking Dad's trying
to get in touch with his famous sons,

1792
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:49.208
"but they don't want anything
to do with him," and all that bollocks.

1793
01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:53.406
He had no intentions of making up with them.

1794
01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:54.520
That was his last thought,

1795
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:57.560
but of course he got paid
from the News Of The World.

1796
01:41:57.640 --> 01:42:00.200
And then, of course,
it was all over the papers the next day.

1797
01:42:35.440 --> 01:42:38.762
He's always said it was me
and the three kids that ruined his life.

1798
01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:42.400
But I would just like him to know
that it wasn't us that ruined his life.

1799
01:42:42.480 --> 01:42:44.005
He ruined his own life.

1800
01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:51.320
You know, it was kind of long since over,
whatever was going on with my old fella.

1801
01:42:51.400 --> 01:42:53.289
All I care about is the music, you know.

1802
01:42:54.080 --> 01:42:57.280
In the end, none of this will matter.

1803
01:42:57.360 --> 01:43:01.001
When it's all said and done,
what will remain is the songs.

1804
01:43:09.360 --> 01:43:10.920
I remember Marcus Russell saying to me,

1805
01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:13.640
"Do we book these big gigs
just while we can?"

1806
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:16.120
Fucking Knebworth, bigger, bigger.

1807
01:43:16.200 --> 01:43:19.480
I imagine a fucking load of money involved.

1808
01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:22.160
"See Owen, it's like a fucking truck
going down a hill.

1809
01:43:22.240 --> 01:43:24.480
"It's burning and the wheels
are fucking falling off.

1810
01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:26.130
"But everyone's going,
'It's fucking brilliant. '

1811
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:28.489
"So I don't know
when it's going to end, Owen."

1812
01:43:30.480 --> 01:43:32.560
Somebody suggested
that the next thing we should do

1813
01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:34.680
should be these things at Knebworth.

1814
01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:38.048
They didn't really have
much significance to me.

1815
01:43:38.160 --> 01:43:40.240
But, you know,
somebody's only got to whisper in my ear,

1816
01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:42.360
"Oh, these are the biggest gigs of all time,"

1817
01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:43.840
and I guess, well, that's me, yeah.

1818
01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:45.840
"You've just sold it to me,
thank you very much."

1819
01:43:45.920 --> 01:43:48.600
The giant stage lies dark and silent.

1820
01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:52.640
Tomorrow, that'll be the focus
for 250,000 people.

1821
01:43:52.720 --> 01:43:55.960
Do you know, over 4% of the population
applied for tickets for Oasis?

1822
01:43:56.040 --> 01:43:57.963
4% of the population!

1823
01:43:58.160 --> 01:43:59.520
In just over three years,

1824
01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:03.600
Oasis will have gone from being a new
signing to one of rock's true giants.

1825
01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:05.440
You know, everyone was taking
a big leap of faith,

1826
01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:07.680
that we were going to sell these shows out.

1827
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:10.960
And the first one went on sale
and it sold out in, like, minutes.

1828
01:44:11.040 --> 01:44:14.560
As if by magic, the sun's got his hat on.

1829
01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:15.687
Ha, hey, hey.

1830
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:21.049
The idea was put to us, we should put
another two nights on sale immediately,

1831
01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:27.160
and I think, for the first time ever,
we kind of backed away.

1832
01:44:27.240 --> 01:44:29.891
I don't know, maybe we got the sense
that it had become too big.

1833
01:44:30.920 --> 01:44:34.481
Then you find out afterwards
that we could have done seven nights.

1834
01:44:35.160 --> 01:44:39.120
Can't believe that we only done two nights.
Whose fucking great idea was that?

1835
01:44:39.200 --> 01:44:41.328
We should still be there playing right now.

1836
01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:44.451
And finally, it's been called
the rock concert of the decade.

1837
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:47.484
A quarter of a million rock fans
at Knebworth in Hertfordshire.

1838
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:51.009
In a few hours, the hype becomes reality
when Oasis take to the stage...

1839
01:44:51.280 --> 01:44:52.884
John, describe the scene for us.

1840
01:44:56.120 --> 01:44:57.770
I do often think, "What was it all about?"

1841
01:44:59.200 --> 01:45:02.443
When we got to Knebworth,
we'd only just become rock stars.

1842
01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:06.720
And I said to Coyle and Phil,
"You're getting on that helicopter,"

1843
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:10.120
because they were our two oldest mates.

1844
01:45:10.200 --> 01:45:12.168
"Really, you should be there
to see it with us.

1845
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:15.082
"This thing that we're all part of."

1846
01:45:18.080 --> 01:45:22.881
It did feel like the end of something
as opposed to the beginning of something.

1847
01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:26.160
I had a sense of that, even at Knebworth,
do you know what I mean?

1848
01:45:26.240 --> 01:45:27.844
That it was never going to happen again.

1849
01:45:29.120 --> 01:45:31.240
That it happened
in such a short space of time.

1850
01:45:31.320 --> 01:45:35.080
Two-and-a-half years from signing off
to walking out on that stage.

1851
01:45:35.160 --> 01:45:36.161
It's just magic.

1852
01:45:37.800 --> 01:45:40.800
We were a band who had the tunes,
who were grafters,

1853
01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:43.645
who came from nothing and wanted it all.

1854
01:45:45.040 --> 01:45:47.646
We were the last. We were the greatest.

1855
01:45:48.440 --> 01:45:50.249
Nothing anybody does
could be as big as Oasis.

1856
01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:03.320
Never. It would never get repeated.

1857
01:46:03.400 --> 01:46:05.080
Not because we were greater
or better than anyone else,

1858
01:46:05.160 --> 01:46:07.640
but just because we didn't
actually give a flying fuck.

1859
01:46:07.760 --> 01:46:12.209
We've definitely got a table upstairs with
the big boys, whether they like it or not.

1860
01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:21.806
It was the pre-digital age.
It was the pre-talent show, reality TV age.

1861
01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:25.000
Things meant more.

1862
01:46:25.080 --> 01:46:29.130
It was just a great time to be alive,
never mind a great time to be in Oasis.

1863
01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:34.360
We were about to enter
into a celebrity-driven culture

1864
01:46:34.440 --> 01:46:38.520
and I've always thought
that it was the last, great gathering

1865
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.640
of the people before the birth
of the Internet.

1866
01:46:42.720 --> 01:46:45.963
It's no coincidence that things like that
don't happen any more.

1867
01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:48.960
Twenty years ago,

1868
01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:53.682
the biggest musical phenomenon
was a band that came from a council estate.

1869
01:46:55.040 --> 01:46:59.480
I just think in the times in which we live,
it would be unrepeatable.

1870
01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:01.280
We should be worried about that

1871
01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:04.682
because where's it going to be
20 years from now?

1872
01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:26.160
I just wanted it all, fucking there and then,
you know what I mean?

1873
01:47:26.240 --> 01:47:29.881
I just wanted it all to happen in one big
"fuck-off" explosion of madness.

1874
01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:33.721
I loved every minute of it.

1875
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:39.804
It meant the be-all and end-all, man.
Life or death.

1876
01:47:43.480 --> 01:47:44.920
And I wouldn't change anything.

1877
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.401
I'd do it all again in a fucking heartbeat.

1878
01:48:12.440 --> 01:48:16.200
This is history!

1879
01:48:16.280 --> 01:48:19.329
Right here, right now, this is history!

1880
01:48:19.480 --> 01:48:22.131
I thought this was Knebworth,
what are you on about?

1881
01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:26.722
That was my life. That band was my life.

1882
01:48:27.320 --> 01:48:31.560
So it went above and beyond
anything I ever imagined.

1883
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:33.520
That was the pinnacle for me.

1884
01:48:33.600 --> 01:48:35.967
It was like,
"What the fuck do you do from there?"

1885
01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:41.609
Champagne Supernova.

1886
01:48:48.680 --> 01:48:51.240
# How many special people change?

1887
01:48:51.320 --> 01:48:54.080
# How many lives are living strange?

1888
01:48:54.160 --> 01:48:58.006
# Where were you while we were getting high?

1889
01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:02.200
# Slowly walking down the hall

1890
01:49:02.280 --> 01:49:04.920
# Faster than a cannonball

1891
01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:08.840
# Where were you while we were getting high?

1892
01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:11.446
# Someday you will find me

1893
01:49:11.800 --> 01:49:15.400
# Caught beneath the landslide

1894
01:49:15.480 --> 01:49:19.451
# In a champagne supernova in the sky

1895
01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:22.560
# Someday you will find me

1896
01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:26.120
# Caught beneath the landslide

1897
01:49:26.200 --> 01:49:29.040
# In a champagne supernova

1898
01:49:29.120 --> 01:49:32.249
# A champagne supernova in the sky

1899
01:49:42.520 --> 01:49:45.200
# Wake up the dawn and ask her why

1900
01:49:45.280 --> 01:49:47.920
# A dreamer dreams she never dies

1901
01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:51.129
# Wipe that tear away now from your eye

1902
01:49:53.480 --> 01:49:55.800
# Slowly walking down the hall

1903
01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:58.201
# Faster than a cannonball

1904
01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:02.400
# Where were you while we were getting high?

1905
01:50:02.480 --> 01:50:08.640
# Someday you will find me
caught beneath the landslide

1906
01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:12.920
# In a champagne supernova in the sky

1907
01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:18.723
# Someday you will find me
caught beneath the landslide

1908
01:50:19.360 --> 01:50:21.840
# In a champagne supernova

1909
01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:24.560
# A champagne supernova

1910
01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:30.727
# 'Cause people believe that they're
going to get away for the summer

1911
01:50:35.200 --> 01:50:37.680
# But you and I, we live and die

1912
01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:39.480
# The world's still spinning round

1913
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:42.530
# We don't know why

1914
01:50:43.200 --> 01:50:46.249
# Why, why, why, why...

1915
01:50:59.840 --> 01:51:02.400
It felt fucking Biblical, man.

1916
01:51:02.480 --> 01:51:05.480
It was a miracle that we even got there.

1917
01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:08.450
It was everything and more than I asked for.

1918
01:51:09.360 --> 01:51:12.040
Yeah, we felt untouchable, man.

1919
01:51:12.120 --> 01:51:13.610
Supersonic even.

1920
01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:20.360
People make the mistake of thinking

1921
01:51:20.440 --> 01:51:23.360
that the people on the stage here
are defining something.

1922
01:51:23.440 --> 01:51:25.080
What if no one turns up?

1923
01:51:25.160 --> 01:51:27.360
We can all sit here
and suck each other's ball bags

1924
01:51:27.440 --> 01:51:30.240
about 2. 6 million people
applying for tickets,

1925
01:51:30.320 --> 01:51:34.000
but you know what's great about that...
Is the 2. 6 million people

1926
01:51:34.080 --> 01:51:38.321
not anything that we did.
And the people were with us.

1927
01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:54.722
# How many special people change?

1928
01:51:55.360 --> 01:51:57.960
# How many lives are living strange?

1929
01:51:58.040 --> 01:52:00.566
# Where were you while we were getting high?

1930
01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:03.888
# We were getting high #

1931
01:52:08.440 --> 01:52:11.720
My attitude then was,
"More, give me more, give me more."

1932
01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:14.800
Now, looking back,
I honestly think we should have just went,

1933
01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:17.042
"Thank you, every one of youse,
for getting us here.

1934
01:52:17.400 --> 01:52:20.563
"We were Oasis, and good night,"
and walked off.

1935
01:52:21.440 --> 01:52:22.840
We should have...

1936
01:52:22.920 --> 01:52:25.571
We should have disappeared
into a puff of smoke.

1937
01:52:26.880 --> 01:52:29.120
But, you know, it was my idea to keep going

1938
01:52:29.200 --> 01:52:31.760
because I keep on fishing for it,
do you know what I mean?

1939
01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:33.171
I'm an addict!

1940
01:52:34.120 --> 01:52:37.329
That's what shit kickers do,
they ride it until the wheels come off.

1941
01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:41.080
Just because you can't get any bigger
or any higher

1942
01:52:41.160 --> 01:52:44.600
doesn't mean to say you can't keep doing it,
you know what I mean?

1943
01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:47.126
Just because you kissed the sky,
give it a fucking love-bite.

1944
01:52:53.520 --> 01:52:56.046
When you're on stage, who are you playing to?

1945
01:52:57.680 --> 01:52:59.680
On stage, when he turns to me,
and I turn to him

1946
01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:02.320
and, like, we just both look at each other,

1947
01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:05.449
everything just clicks, and,
it just like, transcends music.

1948
01:53:06.480 --> 01:53:09.370
And it's only me and him
that will ever get this...

1949
01:53:10.840 --> 01:53:12.649
And that's what it's about for us.

1950
01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:16.640
Sometimes, I do look back and I think, "Well,

1951
01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:19.880
"I wish it had gone a different way,"
but it hasn't.

1952
01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:23.080
It's caused a lot of problems with them two,

1953
01:53:23.160 --> 01:53:26.289
but it's their life,
so you have to just let them get on with it.

1954
01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:28.760
I get where she's coming from

1955
01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:31.760
because obviously me and Our Kid
ain't got a relationship any more,

1956
01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:33.680
but who's to say
if we'd have been a pair of fishmongers,

1957
01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:37.242
we'd have still slapped at each other
with a bit of trout every now and again.

1958
01:53:37.360 --> 01:53:38.640
I guess it's like a fight.

1959
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.160
We were kind of like a fucking
Mike Tyson band, you know what I mean?

1960
01:53:41.240 --> 01:53:44.920
We just come in fucking blazing,
knocking everyone out.

1961
01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:49.480
We were never going to do ten rounds
and it was never going to get to that point.

1962
01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:51.800
At the end of the day,
I weigh it up and I go,

1963
01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:56.760
"Right, did the good times outweigh
the bad times? Fucking 100%!"

1964
01:53:56.840 --> 01:53:57.921
I'm happy with that.

1965
01:53:59.120 --> 01:54:03.160
You couldn't say
that anybody that was ever in Oasis,

1966
01:54:03.240 --> 01:54:06.320
me included,
was the best in the world at anything.

1967
01:54:06.400 --> 01:54:09.200
But when it all came together,

1968
01:54:09.280 --> 01:54:13.729
we made people feel something
that was indefinable.

1969
01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:16.800
We're still the same band
that was playing at the Boardwalk.

1970
01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:19.240
We virtually are wearing the same clothes.

1971
01:54:19.320 --> 01:54:25.000
All that's happened is that it's caught fire
and all these people have got on board.

1972
01:54:25.080 --> 01:54:29.608
But people will never, ever, ever
forget the way that you made them feel.

1973
01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:34.680
There's a chemistry
between the band and the audience.

1974
01:54:34.760 --> 01:54:37.880
There's something magnetic
drawing the two to each other.

1975
01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:41.280
The love, and the vibe,
and the passion and the rage

1976
01:54:41.360 --> 01:54:43.408
and the joy that come in from the crowd.

1977
01:54:44.080 --> 01:54:45.969
If anything, that's what Oasis was.

1978
01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:51.880
# And then dance if you want to dance

1979
01:54:51.960 --> 01:54:53.640
# Please, brother, take a chance

1980
01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:55.200
# You know they're going to go

1981
01:54:55.280 --> 01:54:57.040
# Which way they want to go

1982
01:54:57.120 --> 01:55:03.000
# All we know is that we don't

1983
01:55:03.080 --> 01:55:04.920
# Know how it's going to be

1984
01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:06.600
# Please, brother, let it be

1985
01:55:06.680 --> 01:55:08.160
# Life on the other hand

1986
01:55:08.240 --> 01:55:11.680
# Won't make you understand

1987
01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:17.961
# We're all part of a master plan #

1988
01:55:18.305 --> 01:55:24.401
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