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There's only one Paul Gascoigne.

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One Paul Gascoigne.
There's only one Paul Gascoigne.

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Paul Gascoigne is the special one.

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He's made a brilliant run.

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Oh, Paul Gascoigne.

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He was always
someone who I looked up to,

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for the way he played football and, um,
and how good he was.

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I still think to this day he was
the greatest England player.

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<i>I Gascoigne-</i>

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Oh, he leaves two for dead.

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Players in the middle...
Oh, so close again.

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Part of his genius,
pan of his magnificence,

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is the fact that he is so vulnerable.

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Without that vulnerable side,
without that carefree side,

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without all the things
that come with Gazza,

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I don't think Paul Gascoigne
would have been the player that he was.

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Is Gascoigne</i>
<i>going to have</i> a <i>crack?</i>

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He is, you know! Oh, what a play!
Brilliant!

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He's the best in the world.
Honestly, the best in the world.

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I remember Walter Smith
coming in from training once,

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and he grabbed us by the neck
and he wanted a word with us,

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and he was fucking serious.

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And he went, "I've just been to see
a psychiatrist about you,"

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he says, "And there's nothing
I can do about it.

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"Just leave you, you're a genius.

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"Now get the fuck out of my sight."

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That was hilarious,
you know, l went, “Oh, wow."

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I was born in Gateshead.

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I loved my childhood, you know, even
though we didn't have much as a family.

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My mum worked really hard.
She had three or four jobs.

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That's the way things were then, you know?

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A lot of people lived
for the weekends, like, on a Saturday.

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The atmosphere around Newcastle
when it's match day is incredible.

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You know, everyone's got a buzz,

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because when Newcastle win, it makes
the weekend for everybody up there.

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I mean, where I lived,
it must have been about eight miles away,

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and you could hear even
the Gallowgate End singing, you know?

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And also, when you hear the crowd,
I'll get my ball out in the street

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and, uh, as if I was playing there.

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We used to play in the street,
where we all had the gates at the house.

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We would, like, say,
"That one's my goal, that gate,"

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and we used to use a tennis ball.

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And I loved it.

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All the kids would be doing other things, I
would just be with this tennis ball non-stop.

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I remember watching
a match once where Johann Cruyff

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did a turn and l was like, "Wow."

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And I just tried to remember how he did it and
went out and practiced with a tennis ball.

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When I was seven, it was my birthday

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and my dad bought us
my first leather football.

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And this thing never left my foot.
I took it to the park,

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I took it to the school
I hid it so the teachers couldn't see it.

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Then after school I'd kick it about
with the guys.

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And then I remember one day
I wanted to play football and

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it was 7:00 at night and I'm in my room
and I've got this ball.

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So I climbed out the back window
and down the drainpipe

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and just kept on kicking
it in the back garden.

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And I just loved it.

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From seven to 14 was Redheugh Boys Club

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every night, you know,
this is every night for years.

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And I absolutely loved it because
we'd go there, train, for, like,

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40 minutes, or whatever, and then we got to

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play on the Saturday or the Sunday
for the boys club and go away with them,

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and just mixing with other guys
who were decent footballers, you know?

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I just loved entertaining.

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You know, there's no better feeling than just
trying to putting a smile on someones face.

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When I scored, I remember all the parents
cheering and all that, you know?

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And that was a great feeling.
I've got the winner,

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so I thought, well, you know,
how good it would be to do that

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in front of, like, the Gallowgate End,
in St James' Park.

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Growing up, Keith, who was my best mate,

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I used to be at his all the time.

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His mum, Maureen, was a lovely woman.

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His dad, Hany, was sound, you know,
he always watched Keith play

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and he used to have a car and he used to
take you to the matches and that.

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I just felt like I had two families at
that age. You know, I was fortunate.

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And me and him used to go
to Redheugh Boys Club,

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and his little brother, Steven.

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One day, his mum says,
"Look, Keith, take Steven."

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And he was eight,
and you know how brothers are

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and he went,
“No, I'm not going if Steven's going."

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And she went, "Paul, will you take Steven?"

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I went, "Yeah, I'll look after him."

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But I was only 10.

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I was only 10.

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So I'm taking Steven. Must have been
about 300 yards up the road, 200 yards.

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And we went in the shop and
I said, "Quick, let's run, “

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and then we run out of the shop

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and he was ahead of me by about a yard
and a car hit him.

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It was horrific. He must have went
about 30 yards in the air,

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about six foot off the air

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and just stayed that level
and shoes come off, he was hit that hard.

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I ran down the street,

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knelt down on my knees,

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and put him on my lap, and I was
just seeing his lips moving a bit,

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and l want to talk, so I'm, like,
"Come on, Steven, you all right?"

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And I seen his lips moving,
not knowing that was his last movement.

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And I was stuck with this and I...
He passed away.

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He didn't move, obviously,
and I was just, like, screaming.

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"Help, Help," and this guy
wouldn't get out of the car.

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And then I just seen
his mum coming, Maureen,

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she come running over and I was like...

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You know, I think that was my first
funeral, and it wasn't, wasn't nice.

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I was only young and I didn't
I didn't know how to take it.

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I remember Keith
coming upstairs and he went,

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"Come on Paul. It's okay.
Give him a cuddle,"

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and then pulling, lifting him out of the
coffin, and kissing him and saying sorry.

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He got cremated,

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and afterwards, like, Keith says,
"Come and stay with me for a while."

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And I stayed in the room where
the coffin was for three days

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and that wasn't too good.

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You know, I just, I didn't even sleep.

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Just wide awake. Just, you know,

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keep looking all the time, thinking,
"Oh, that's where the coffin was."

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And then after a few days,
I went back home, you know?

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But she was affected for a long time,
Maureen, I know that.

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You know, I remember her getting tablets
to make her sleep.

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She couldn't sleep, you know.

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I don't blame her. Losing her son.

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<i>Obviously Harry had to stay strong
because he was obviously the father.</i>

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But then sadly both of them
passed away, you know, with cancer.

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Which I found out'
which was quite upsetting.

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So I never really got to buy her
that kettle I owed her,

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because I blew her kettle up.

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When I put the kettle on
there was no water in.

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So she always remembered,
"Ah, you owe me a kettle."

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I remember afterwards,

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I started developing twitches like...

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Making stupid noises and I couldn't
gel rid of flashing like that.

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And then my mum took us to a psychiatrist
and he wanted to play with sand.

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And I just went, "Mum, don't take us
back there any more.“ And she didn't.

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Um, so I don't think I started
psychiatrists early.

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But we used to laugh about it, my mum,
and my brothers and my sisters.

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I wouldn't do it and then
all of a sudden, like,

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my sister would come by
and she went "Paul..."

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And do that
and that would set us off again.

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“Mum, she's doing it again."

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All the Mme I was playing when I was 14,
I was just waiting for Newcastle, really.

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Fortunate for me, it happened, you know.

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But I had to put in the work as well.
Ii wasn't easy.

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Them days, we had to get in early.
Put the kit out for the professionals.

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If they wanted a cup of tea, make the tea.

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Then we'd have to clean the balls.

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At that time, the manager was Arthur Cox.
Tough cookie.

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He used to put the team sheet
up on the Friday,

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who was playing on the Saturday.

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And I touched the sheet.
And l went, "Oh. wok, it's a certain..."

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I think it was Neil McDonald.

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Because he was a good player
and he was young, and that.

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And I went, "Oh, Neil's playing,"

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and I touched the sheet,
and he nearly took my ear off.

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He smacked us right across the ear.

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And he went, "Don't touch that f-ing sheet
until you're on it."

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So that's what it meant lo be
a professional footballer

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and I thought, "Shit, I'm in trouble."

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Yeah, and l was panicking.

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So I thought, I'll make him
a cup of tea and that.

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Polished the cup and
made it perfect for him,

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and then l took it in with my hands
around the rim.

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Went to give xi to him
and he took my head off.

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You know.
“Don't f-ing touch the top of a cup

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“where I've got to drink from' my son."

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And he'd just put his feet up
and lie back in his chair.

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So I had to go make him another one
and I made sure it was all done perfect,

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and, you know, I made sure
I never touched that sheet again.

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What are we doing? Are we standing out here
or are we going inside, or what?

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- Going in, I think.
- Haven't been in, yet

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I was just in awe of the man,
with England in 1966.

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And he comes to the club
and I wasn't really in the youth team.

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I was sub in that.

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I wasn't really getting
that much of a game.

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You know, after I finished training,
go home and had a light bottle of pop,

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fish and chips, and a bag of Minstrels.

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And he pulled us aside and he went,
"Can I have a word with you?“

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I was, like, "Oof.“
I was shaking a bit and I went, "Yeah."

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And he went, "Yeah, you're a good player."

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l went, "Yeah, lam."

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He says, "How long have you
got left on your contract?“

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I went, "Ah."
I said, "Yeah, I've got a couple of years."

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And he went,
“No, you've two weeks, you fat bastard.

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“You better start losing weight."

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You know, I would like to think
it was puppy fat at 17.

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Sixteen and a half to be fair...

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Yeah, I was sixteen and half and then,

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I stopped the Minstrels,
I stopped with the Coke, bottles of Coke.

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Yeah, and I got weighed every day.

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It worked, you know.

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I'd been hardly playing for the youth team.

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Within a month
I was captain of the youth team.

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I was captain of the reserves.

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And took them onto...
We got to the Youth Cup final.

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Jack Charlton, he went,
"What are you doing tomorrow?"

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Sort of thing, this was a Friday night,
after the game.

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And I went, "I'm just gonna go back.
Just chill out, you know."

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And he went, "I would like you to play
for the first team tomorrow."

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And that was my start of my career.

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Once I started playing for Newcastle,
it was, uh...

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The feeling was,
the buzz was incredible, you know.

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Playing for your hometown, and that.

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And then eventually, you know,
one minute you were looking at

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the Gallowgate and seeing
the fans roar and that,

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and then eventually scoring
in front of them, you know.

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The feeling was amazing. It was fantastic.

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Like, "Wow," just thinking,
"I've scored, I've scored.

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"I'll tell me Dad. I'll watch it
on Match of the Day, "you know.

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Then you hear the fans singing your name,
you know.

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It's unbelievable.

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Well, it's goals like that which have made
Paul Gascoigne, or Gazza,

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as they all know him, a real hero
to the people who stand

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on these terraces at St James' Park.

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He looks like the kind of footballer
who plays for the local Sunday pub team

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until you see him play, that is.

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The reason the supporters really
love Gazza is he's one of them,

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T-shirt, anorak and jeans
and a diet of Mars bars and brown ale.

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You won't find it in the coaching manuals,

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but when you can score goals
like he scores, who cares?

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The first time I heard the name
Paul Gascoigne,

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was when he was in
his early days at Newcastle.

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People in the game started talking
about this young man

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that had something a little bit special.

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He was a precocious young talent.

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A kid that would do things,
that would take people on,

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that would beat people,
and had an unbelievable natural talent.

224
00:15:26,392 --> 00:15:30,898
I think it's about 35 years since
I seen a kid as good as what this lad is.

225
00:15:30,963 --> 00:15:33,068
And I just cannot believe the skills
of him, he's got everything.

226
00:15:33,232 --> 00:15:34,836
Everything. Sticks out a mile.

227
00:15:35,134 --> 00:15:37,341
And hell tell you so as well, you know.

228
00:15:37,403 --> 00:15:39,212
- He's a class... Oh, confident.
- He's a confident lad.

229
00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:41,882
There's no holding him,
he's the best in the world.

230
00:15:42,041 --> 00:15:43,816
Honestly. The best in the world.

231
00:16:01,928 --> 00:16:03,430
The manager would say, "Right, then,

232
00:16:03,763 --> 00:16:06,744
"you're lining up against John Fashanu,
big, strong in the air

233
00:16:06,833 --> 00:16:08,005
"and tough, and all that.

234
00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:10,407
"Peter Beardsley, you're up against,
you know, this...

235
00:16:10,937 --> 00:16:13,440
"Andy Thorn, tough guy,
good in the air, boom-boom."

236
00:16:13,673 --> 00:16:15,983
And he just went. "Gazza, good luck."

237
00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:17,617
That was all he said.

238
00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:19,221
I was, "What do you mean, 'Good luck?“

239
00:16:19,278 --> 00:16:22,088
He went, "You're playing against a guy,
that... He's quite hard. Vinnie Jones."

240
00:16:29,055 --> 00:16:31,729
Coming out of the tunnel,
he just fucking looked at us.

241
00:16:32,024 --> 00:16:34,800
He strains his neck like that,
and he went, “Me and you, fat boy."

242
00:16:34,961 --> 00:16:36,167
I went, “Oh, shit,"

243
00:16:36,762 --> 00:16:39,766
you know' and we're walking through
the tunnel and I just baked at him again

244
00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:42,403
and he went, "What are you fucking
looking at? Just me and you, fat boy!"

245
00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:45,674
He says, "I cannot play football
and neither are you today."

246
00:16:51,911 --> 00:16:55,654
They could say that
Vinnie Jones is marking Gascoigne.

247
00:16:55,715 --> 00:16:59,686
And he followed us, everywhere.
This guy was, just, like, solid.

248
00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:02,164
It wasn't like he... He was just solid.

249
00:17:02,255 --> 00:17:03,495
And he wouldn't leave us.

250
00:17:04,056 --> 00:17:06,696
An amazing dribble.
Goodness, me... Whoa!

251
00:17:06,993 --> 00:17:09,940
As the game went on,
I just felt a bit more, like,

252
00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:11,406
confident and that, and I went,

253
00:17:11,497 --> 00:17:12,805
"I fucking didn't bother with thus guy."

254
00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:14,867
And he started backing up on us

255
00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:17,579
and so I, sort of like, gave him a push
and that's when he squeezed me,

256
00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:18,808
squeezed me balls.

257
00:17:23,643 --> 00:17:25,748
He really squeezed them so hard.
And ll was like...

258
00:17:27,647 --> 00:17:29,649
Honestly, I thought I'd lost
my family allowance.

259
00:17:31,284 --> 00:17:33,855
We're going in the dressing room
and some girls sent us some roses

260
00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:35,961
and I went,
“That's nice, I'll give them to Vinnie."

261
00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:38,729
So I went and I says, "Can you give them
to Vinnie Jones, please, from me?"

262
00:17:38,791 --> 00:17:41,567
I went back to the dressing room
and then the guy came back, a young kid,

263
00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:42,831
he went, "That's from Vinnie."

264
00:17:42,929 --> 00:17:46,638
He was sending us back a toilet brush,
he said to go fuck off.

265
00:17:49,769 --> 00:17:51,146
That was my first experience

266
00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,911
with Vinnie, you know. He's been a
good friend since, like, you know.

267
00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:06,053
I'd played for Newcastle
for a year and a half then.

268
00:18:06,118 --> 00:18:08,325
And, you know, my name was getting round.

269
00:18:09,855 --> 00:18:11,391
Glenn Roeder said, "Look at Tottenham,

270
00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:13,595
"Terry Venables wants to sign you
at the end of the season."

271
00:18:14,226 --> 00:18:15,705
And I just thought, well,

272
00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,399
Tottenham is a big, massive club.

273
00:18:17,697 --> 00:18:19,574
So is Newcastle,
but they were buying players.

274
00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:23,142
<i>When I spoke to Terry Venables,
he says, "One thing I can promise you,</i>

275
00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:25,478
"if you come to this club
I will get you to play for England."

276
00:18:26,305 --> 00:18:28,581
And, you know, the thought of playing
for England, wow.

277
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:31,479
And then, all of a sudden,
Man United come in.

278
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,653
I thought, "Ooh, Man United,
Sir Alex Ferguson, “ you know.

279
00:18:36,749 --> 00:18:39,059
The experience of the guy is phenomenal.

280
00:18:40,386 --> 00:18:42,457
So I spoke to Sir Alex and I says, "Yeah,

281
00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:45,726
"I'm gonna sign for you."
And he went, "Brilliant."

282
00:18:45,791 --> 00:18:47,702
He says, "So I can go on holiday now.

283
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,364
"I've got the player I want?“

284
00:18:49,729 --> 00:18:51,970
I says, "Yeah, you go away on holiday,

285
00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:54,238
"I'm signing,
and really enjoy yourself."

286
00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:55,607
He went, "Cheers, son."

287
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:58,471
So I'm on the way to Man United and then

288
00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:00,845
Tottenham said,
"Look, I tell you what we'll do,

289
00:19:00,906 --> 00:19:02,317
"we'll buy your parents a house."

290
00:19:02,908 --> 00:19:04,854
I'm "Fucking hell. A house."

291
00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:06,150
I ring my dad UP

292
00:19:06,245 --> 00:19:08,521
and I said, "Dad, you know,
I want to sign for Man United

293
00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:12,992
"but Spurs has offered to buy
you and mum a house."

294
00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:16,490
And he went, "What the fuck
are you waiting for then?"

295
00:19:16,555 --> 00:19:18,626
Which was brilliant. I went, "Hmm, okay,"

296
00:19:18,791 --> 00:19:21,635
and then he went, "Can
you get a car for us?"

297
00:19:23,796 --> 00:19:27,141
So I went, “Hold on, Dad."
So I went, "Terry, my dad wants a car."

298
00:19:27,566 --> 00:19:30,672
I was shitting myself and he Went,
"Consider it done."

299
00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:34,441
So I'm driving up the motorway,
the phone goes again

300
00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:36,009
I'm like, "Oh, n0, it's family."

301
00:19:36,075 --> 00:19:37,850
I went, "Yeah." It was my sister.

302
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:39,480
She went, "Paul, well,
if my mum's getting a house

303
00:19:39,545 --> 00:19:41,821
"and my dad's getting a car,
I want a sunbed."

304
00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:44,726
l went, "Hold on." So I ring,

305
00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:46,922
"You know, the house is
quite nice and that,

306
00:19:46,986 --> 00:19:48,397
"and my sister's room is quite good.

307
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:51,001
"Is it okay if she can
have a sunbed, please?"

308
00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:55,095
And he went, "Okay, we'll get you
a sunbed for your sister."

309
00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:58,438
And that was it, signed for Spurs.

310
00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:30,507
<i>The pressure was on-</i>

311
00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:32,769
Highest transferred player in the country,

312
00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:36,677
£2.2 million, you know, you look at it now,
some people get that a month.

313
00:20:37,002 --> 00:20:41,109
But, for that moment, to go for
two million, the pressure was on.

314
00:20:41,207 --> 00:20:43,016
Spurs coming
forward again.

315
00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:45,316
This is Chris Waddle,
made a bit of space for himself.

316
00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:48,084
Fine run by Gascoigne! Real chance!

317
00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:52,892
Denied, he lost his boot in the process.
But that is his first goal for Spurs,

318
00:20:52,952 --> 00:20:54,989
and it was scored without a boot.

319
00:20:55,154 --> 00:20:57,998
It was a sort of impudence.

320
00:20:59,892 --> 00:21:02,395
Gascoigne... Oh, wonderful!

321
00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:04,497
He had great confidence.

322
00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:10,870
You could see he played
for the love of the game.

323
00:21:11,003 --> 00:21:12,004
Completely for the love of the game.

324
00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:14,210
He didn't, obviously,
give it too much thought.

325
00:21:15,307 --> 00:21:18,117
And he had this amazing strength,
upper body,

326
00:21:18,210 --> 00:21:19,484
where he'd push people off.

327
00:21:20,713 --> 00:21:23,853
<i>Beautiful combination
from Gascoigne, and he's won our!</i>

328
00:21:25,851 --> 00:21:27,922
He excited you
on the pitch.

329
00:21:27,987 --> 00:21:29,125
It mightn't have been the best of games

330
00:21:29,188 --> 00:21:33,500
but he lifted everyone when he got the ball
and you could feel an anticipation.

331
00:21:34,894 --> 00:21:39,001
Gascoigne taking
the ball on, and scoring superbly!

332
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:40,974
And did he enjoy that.

333
00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:43,843
And you get fan mail.
The fan mail starts coming

334
00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:45,574
thick and fast, you know.

335
00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:47,276
I remember opening my first fan mail

336
00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:48,977
and it was from Sir Alex Ferguson.

337
00:21:49,275 --> 00:21:50,811
I said, "Ooh, shit."

338
00:21:51,076 --> 00:21:54,114
He went, "I can't believe
what you've done, you stupid bastard."

339
00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:58,758
Again, just, "You've turned
down the biggest club in the world."

340
00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:03,925
He says, "You know, I turned down all
these Barcelonas, Madrids and AC Milan

341
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,991
"come to Man United,
You told me to go on my holiday

342
00:22:06,091 --> 00:22:08,002
"and you sign for fucking Spurs.“

343
00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:10,900
It took him six years to get
speaking to us again.

344
00:22:20,406 --> 00:22:22,283
I loved it at Spurs, you know.

345
00:22:22,374 --> 00:22:23,910
The times I had there were fantastic.

346
00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:25,749
The fun and the laughs we had, you know,

347
00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:28,223
the team spirit was absolutely brilliant.

348
00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:31,153
I mean, Terry Venables was the only manager!
Could think of in this world

349
00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:32,456
that could deal with us.

350
00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:37,531
I remember halfway through the season,

351
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:39,831
the lads went, “I thought you do
crazy things, Gazza."

352
00:22:39,925 --> 00:22:42,929
I went, "I am I do.
We'll do something tomorrow."

353
00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:45,134
So I'm driving home and I pass a zoo.

354
00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,042
And I just looked and I went,
"H mm, that'd be interesting."

355
00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:51,278
The guy's house was actually in the zoo.

356
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,281
I went to his house at 7:30 in the morning,

357
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,374
knocking on his door.
He went, "What do you want, Gazza?"

358
00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:57,381
l went, "Can I borrow an ostrich?"

359
00:22:59,078 --> 00:23:01,490
He fucking...
“What do you want an ostrich for?"

360
00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:04,287
I said, "I just need
to fucking borrow one."

361
00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:09,395
Stick it in the back of the car.

362
00:23:09,488 --> 00:23:11,764
Ostrich giving that with
its long neck, man.

363
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,764
And I waited till the
lads went out warming up

364
00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:17,634
and I got the ostrich. I went, "Yeah, lads,
look at this new player Terry Venables signed,

365
00:23:17,763 --> 00:23:19,936
"the gaffer's signed,"
and I threw it on the pitch.

366
00:23:19,999 --> 00:23:23,208
And it was so funny because the lads
were doing side-to-side running

367
00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:25,271
and this ostrich was doing the same behind.

368
00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,316
I thought it was quite funny.

369
00:23:27,506 --> 00:23:31,283
All the lads did
but the lads finish training at 1:00.

370
00:23:31,377 --> 00:23:33,084
Have you ever tried
catching a fucking ostrich?

371
00:23:33,812 --> 00:23:36,418
Honestly.
I caught this ostrich...

372
00:23:36,548 --> 00:23:39,757
I got the ostrich back at around
5:00 in the afternoon.

373
00:23:39,852 --> 00:23:40,887
I was knackered.

374
00:23:50,963 --> 00:23:52,567
Well, the
training ground experience,

375
00:23:52,665 --> 00:23:55,145
like anything else with Gazza, is always,

376
00:23:56,201 --> 00:23:57,475
is always great fun.

377
00:23:59,872 --> 00:24:01,647
A practical joker,

378
00:24:01,707 --> 00:24:04,449
beyond the likes of which
I don't think I've ever seen,

379
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:06,956
before or after.

380
00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:09,720
Didn't always know where the line was.

381
00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,920
And would occasionally cross it.

382
00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:14,260
Honestly, Gary Lineker has got
a woman's body.

383
00:24:14,353 --> 00:24:16,458
It's so smooth and everything, honestly.

384
00:24:16,889 --> 00:24:19,995
He could be' could have,
close to the body of a lady-boy.

385
00:24:23,729 --> 00:24:26,005
We used to have
a guy coming along to training.

386
00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:27,942
Nice chap. Do anything for you.

387
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,844
<i>One day,
Gazza had brought in this camps-man</i>

388
00:24:30,936 --> 00:24:33,177
and he'd gone and got
one of those parking cones.

389
00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:35,377
He climbed up and he put it on the roof.

390
00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:36,646
This chap comes out.

391
00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:39,285
Gazza shouts to him,
he says, "Hey, jusi, do us a favour

392
00:24:39,345 --> 00:24:42,224
"just nip up there
and get the cone off the roof.

393
00:24:42,281 --> 00:24:44,625
"Somebody, somebody's put it
on the roof of my van."

394
00:24:44,717 --> 00:24:46,355
So he went, "Yeah, sure."

395
00:24:46,452 --> 00:24:47,931
So he goes and he climbs up
the ladder on the back

396
00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:49,091
and he gets up.

397
00:24:50,189 --> 00:24:51,361
And as he does so,

398
00:24:51,457 --> 00:24:54,927
Gazza switches the thing on
and goes and drives out.

399
00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:58,168
And now the fellow is hanging on this
ladder, on the back of this truck.

400
00:24:58,297 --> 00:25:01,471
And he goes out of the gates at
the old training ground in Mill Hill.

401
00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:03,979
Turns right
and there's a little mini roundabout

402
00:25:04,036 --> 00:25:06,812
about 200 yards uphill.
He goes up this roundabout.

403
00:25:06,972 --> 00:25:09,316
The fellow now is like
Superman, horizontal,

404
00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:11,319
hanging onto this ladder at the back.

405
00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:15,153
It was the most dangerous but hilarious
thing, I think I've ever seen.

406
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,827
And he went around
the roundabout, screeched back.

407
00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:20,955
Still somehow he hung on, thankfully.

408
00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:22,726
Otherwise it could have been disastrous.

409
00:25:22,788 --> 00:25:26,793
Screeched back into the car park. Parked
it. Everyone's crying with laughter,

410
00:25:26,892 --> 00:25:29,429
and, as he pulls in,
Terry Venables walks out

411
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:31,573
and he comes out and he goes,

412
00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:33,175
"I don't wanna be seeing
this really, do I?"

413
00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:35,007
And he walked straight back in again.

414
00:25:40,239 --> 00:25:43,277
I think if you just let someone
have their head completely,

415
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,946
it can go out of control
and you can blossom the person.

416
00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:48,252
If you keep right on top
of them, you stifle it.

417
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,523
It's the personality that he is.

418
00:25:50,682 --> 00:25:52,684
I mean, he's a joy to have in the club.

419
00:25:52,951 --> 00:25:57,161
The players like him.
You know, he's a kind fellow

420
00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:59,166
and he's got a lot of heart and warmth.

421
00:26:02,194 --> 00:26:03,639
Terry Venables was brilliant.

422
00:26:04,496 --> 00:26:06,203
I think it was, yeah.
I think it was me 10th game.

423
00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:09,008
And he says "Gaz, I need to see you."

424
00:26:09,134 --> 00:26:12,013
He shouted ii from his window
because his office is upstairs.

425
00:26:12,137 --> 00:26:14,674
And l thought, "Oh, shit, well,
I'm in trouble here. What have I done?"

426
00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:18,516
And he says, "Sit down."
And he kept a serious face.

427
00:26:18,644 --> 00:26:21,124
I'm going, "I haven't clone anything wrong,
have I? I haven't?"

428
00:26:21,713 --> 00:26:23,624
He went, "I've got some news for you."

429
00:26:23,882 --> 00:26:25,259
And l was like, "Oh, yeah?"

430
00:26:25,451 --> 00:26:27,658
He went, "You've been picked
for England." Wow.

431
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,060
Feel like crying now, thinking about it.

432
00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:41,409
I worked with Mr Robson,

433
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:46,039
and Mr Robson was really in love with Paul

434
00:26:46,872 --> 00:26:50,615
and was permanently speaking
about his talent

435
00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:55,523
and about the pleasure he had to coach
such a talented player.

436
00:26:55,881 --> 00:26:57,519
He is a rare talent,

437
00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,527
which we need to nurture and we need to

438
00:26:59,585 --> 00:27:03,123
give him his head sometimes and he
needs just to be disciplined as well.

439
00:27:07,092 --> 00:27:10,437
I don't think, going into 1990,
expectations were that high.

440
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:14,968
Obviously, England had underachieved
since '66, when we won the World Cup.

441
00:27:15,067 --> 00:27:18,742
Inside the camp, I think we were,
you know, quietly confident.

442
00:27:18,804 --> 00:27:21,910
You'd look around. You'd go, "We've actually
got a really good group of players here.

443
00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:24,214
"We've got half a chance,
if things go our way.“

444
00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:31,017
GASCOIGNE In that World Cup,
there wasn't anybody that stood out,

445
00:27:31,216 --> 00:27:34,891
basically, from the first game.
It was Cameroon versus Argentina,

446
00:27:35,254 --> 00:27:38,064
with Maradona and that playing,
and Cameroon won, one-nil.

447
00:27:38,557 --> 00:27:41,163
And you think, well, everybody's
got a chance here, you know.

448
00:27:50,569 --> 00:27:54,039
The game against the Dutch
was the game that Gazza emerged

449
00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:56,776
as being a genuinely world-class talent.

450
00:28:01,813 --> 00:28:04,316
Gazza was brilliant.
Unbelievably brilliant.

451
00:28:04,883 --> 00:28:07,329
I remember him. He was chasing Ruud Gullit,

452
00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:08,456
pulling his dreadlocks.

453
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,694
And he was winding Gullit up.
And he was going, "Oh, what? Who?

454
00:28:11,757 --> 00:28:13,896
"Who is this kid? What's he doing?"

455
00:28:15,894 --> 00:28:18,807
The one thing I used to love
about watching Paul play was

456
00:28:18,964 --> 00:28:21,843
how he got the ball and he ran
at defenders with the ball and...

457
00:28:22,401 --> 00:28:24,176
Nowadays you mightn’t get away with it

458
00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:26,409
but he'd always protect himself
with his arms.

459
00:28:26,605 --> 00:28:29,449
It's a great art to be able to do, and,

460
00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,381
you know, to not let the
defenders near you.

461
00:28:31,443 --> 00:28:33,650
I Gascoigne-</i>

462
00:28:33,845 --> 00:28:36,291
This is brilliant stuff from Gascoigne.

463
00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:40,296
He was aggressive.
Very physical.

464
00:28:40,852 --> 00:28:43,332
At the same time, very technical.

465
00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:47,837
Fantastic characteristics that you need
to be a top football player.

466
00:28:57,803 --> 00:29:01,114
Scifo went for it
and I sort of, like, tackled him,

467
00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:03,413
but what happened was I
brought me other foot across

468
00:29:03,475 --> 00:29:07,082
and sort of like tried to give him a whack, a
little bit, as well, and the referee's seen it.

469
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,022
The Belgians unhappy with that,
and Gascoigne gets a yellow card.

470
00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:12,756
I forgot about the yellow card.

471
00:29:13,552 --> 00:29:15,054
A couple of minutes left, I got booked.

472
00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:17,892
I just wanted to give my all,
like all the players we had.

473
00:29:17,956 --> 00:29:19,799
Give it all for England, you know.

474
00:29:20,726 --> 00:29:23,332
It's a battle
against the clock here, for sure.

475
00:29:24,329 --> 00:29:26,206
I was thinking what to do with the ball,

476
00:29:26,331 --> 00:29:28,538
whether I was just going
to just try to whack it towards the keeper.

477
00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:30,079
But then Bobby Robson, I could hear him,

478
00:29:30,202 --> 00:29:31,374
and I dare not look at him,

479
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,438
and I can hear him screaming,
"Just chip it in. Chip it in."

480
00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:34,916
You know, and.“

481
00:29:35,007 --> 00:29:37,180
Eventually, like, we got
Butcher forward and then,

482
00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:41,721
then I did the worst pass in the world.
I chipped it to David Platt

483
00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:43,554
and made him a player. Devastated.

484
00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:45,017
Then I...

485
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:47,119
Gascoigne's free kick.

486
00:29:47,986 --> 00:29:51,092
And Flatt! David Platt
has scored for England.

487
00:29:52,991 --> 00:29:55,096
It was the explosion of different emotions.

488
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,267
It wasn't just the joy of the fact that
this was a last-minute, stunning winner.

489
00:29:59,364 --> 00:30:02,641
It was also the fact that,
we haven't got to take penalties.

490
00:30:03,835 --> 00:30:06,008
England, through
to the quarter-finals,

491
00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:08,210
and Gascoigne's reaction says it all.

492
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:13,646
Afterwards, it was brilliant'
because afterwards, after the game,

493
00:30:13,712 --> 00:30:16,090
we're all in the dressing room,
and diving in the bath

494
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,957
and doing somersaults
and everything, you know.

495
00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:20,528
We were over the moon to get
through that one.

496
00:30:26,958 --> 00:30:29,029
The atmosphere in the dressing room
was incredible.

497
00:30:29,628 --> 00:30:32,507
Incredible because we were under
a lot of pressure in that game, you know.

498
00:30:33,432 --> 00:30:34,604
Gascoigne calling for it.

499
00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:38,170
<i>Here's Stuart Pearce
looking long to the far post.</i>

500
00:30:38,236 --> 00:30:39,874
<i>And David Piaf?!</i>

501
00:30:41,773 --> 00:30:43,309
We took the lead,
David Platt.

502
00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,448
And then they scored two goals.

503
00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:50,651
 And it's one-one.

504
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:56,725
Oh, Cameroon, they're in the lead!

505
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:58,358
Whilst we knew they were a good side,

506
00:30:58,457 --> 00:31:00,698
if we'd have come home, losing to Cameroon,

507
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,403
you know, they would have been
the first African side to make

508
00:31:03,528 --> 00:31:06,134
the semi-finals of the World Cup,
we'd have been ridiculed.

509
00:31:06,998 --> 00:31:09,535
You know, then
there's the little ball knocked into me.

510
00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:12,241
I turn, got brought down. Penalty.

511
00:31:16,241 --> 00:31:17,720
And Lineker scores!

512
00:31:17,809 --> 00:31:20,415
And it's all square at two-two.

513
00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:25,050
Often the only way you'd have a chance
of getting the ball off Gazza

514
00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:28,324
was actually if he knew you had
no alternative but to give it

515
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,560
to him straight back, a little one-two.

516
00:31:30,689 --> 00:31:32,999
Unless he was completely knackered.

517
00:31:33,225 --> 00:31:34,761
Then you've got a chance as well.

518
00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,897
<i>A</i> Ia extra time. Against Cameroon.

519
00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:39,566
Quarter finals of the World Cup.

520
00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:41,666
England much more
on top now.

521
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,245
This is Gascoigne.

522
00:31:43,335 --> 00:31:46,248
Oh, that's a great ball to Lineker.
He's got away!

523
00:31:46,304 --> 00:31:49,080
And he's brought down.
Another penalty, surely.

524
00:31:49,174 --> 00:31:51,051
That pass there, which he was capable of

525
00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:53,319
all the time but didn't do very often,

526
00:31:53,478 --> 00:31:55,424
was because he couldn't run any more.

527
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:01,959
Straight down the middle!
England are back in the lead.

528
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:06,530
We were in a World Cup semi-final.

529
00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:08,798
You know, we had done better
than any other team had ever done,

530
00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,840
for England, apart from on our own shores.

531
00:32:16,134 --> 00:32:20,048
Gascoigne has done so much to pull
England into the semi-finals.

532
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,984
And no one appreciates that more
than his manager, Bobby Robson.

533
00:32:37,088 --> 00:32:40,763
England's footballers are preparing
for their most important game

534
00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:43,773
since winning the World Cup in 1966.

535
00:32:43,995 --> 00:32:45,599
They fly to Turin later today

536
00:32:45,697 --> 00:32:48,007
for Wednesdays semi-final
against West Germany.

537
00:32:48,533 --> 00:32:51,571
The night before the game,
the semi-final, was all, like...

538
00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:54,411
I was rooming with Chris Waddle.
It was half past 10:00

539
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:57,112
and I was with Chris and I went,
"Ah, I can't sleep. I'm going for a walk."

540
00:32:57,476 --> 00:33:00,150
So I was out for a walk and I just
heard some guys playing tennis.

541
00:33:00,846 --> 00:33:03,486
So, it was two Americans' I went,
"Can l join in lads? I'll challenge you."

542
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:06,561
So l was working my nuts off
to beat these two Americans

543
00:33:07,085 --> 00:33:08,564
and I hear, "Gazza."

544
00:33:10,455 --> 00:33:12,992
And I just see Sir Bobby Robson.

545
00:33:14,125 --> 00:33:15,934
I've ran. I've ran to my room.

546
00:33:16,127 --> 00:33:18,334
About five minutes later
there's smashing at the door.

547
00:33:18,396 --> 00:33:20,000
Sir Bobby Robson. Banging like mad.

548
00:33:20,131 --> 00:33:22,577
"Open the door. Open the door.
Chris, wheres Gazza?"

549
00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:25,039
And so I looked at Chris, I went,
"Tell him I'm sleeping."

550
00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:26,647
He went, "He's weeping, gaffer."

551
00:33:27,038 --> 00:33:29,416
He went, "Sleeping?
He's jusi been playing tennis."

552
00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:31,249
And Chris looked at us and I went...

553
00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,754
And that was it.
A little letter come through the door.

554
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,153
"I'll see you in the morning."

555
00:33:35,614 --> 00:33:38,254
So I didn't sleep well that night
because I thought he was going to drop us.

556
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,659
Bobby Robson wanted
a team meeting, with all the players.

557
00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:46,629
But he was late for the meeting.
He was always, he was always a bit late

558
00:33:46,791 --> 00:33:49,499
and whilst he was late,

559
00:33:49,561 --> 00:33:51,632
I, I put on this board

560
00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:54,573
I put, "Even money' he mentions the war."

561
00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:58,945
Then I put the sheet back down
and Bobby comes in

562
00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:00,514
and he addresses, we're all sitting there.

563
00:34:00,605 --> 00:34:01,845
And he goes,

564
00:34:02,974 --> 00:34:04,214
"We beat them in the war."

565
00:34:04,676 --> 00:34:07,555
It was his first words and it was just...
And then there was this uproar,

566
00:34:07,646 --> 00:34:10,092
uproar, in the whole room
and Bobby's going,

567
00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:12,094
"What's going on? What'? What?"

568
00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:13,891
So, I said, "You might wanna turn?"

569
00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:16,728
So he turned it over and he went,
"You bugger."

570
00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:27,639
The teams,
just about to appear

571
00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:31,771
and the atmosphere here in Turin
is absolutely wonderful.

572
00:34:31,836 --> 00:34:34,817
Huge support for both sides.
Huge anticipation.

573
00:34:37,642 --> 00:34:40,122
The only thing you hear is just this
unbelievable noise, you know.

574
00:34:40,345 --> 00:34:43,155
And the longer you're in the tunnel,
the worse it gets.

575
00:34:48,186 --> 00:34:51,497
Try not listening. Put a deaf ear to it,
you know, because all you think ls, like,

576
00:34:51,556 --> 00:34:53,092
"Win this' and you're in the final
of the World Cup."

577
00:34:53,158 --> 00:34:55,399
Which England haven't done since 1966,
you know.

578
00:34:59,397 --> 00:35:02,378
I just seen the way the players had
passion in them there, you know?

579
00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:04,471
They just stood up. Three Lions.

580
00:35:04,569 --> 00:35:08,278
We were singing the national anthem,
and it was incredible.

581
00:35:08,673 --> 00:35:10,084
The adrenaline was unbelievable.

582
00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:20,292
I think that was one of my best games
for England.

583
00:35:20,352 --> 00:35:22,093
Nearly scored in the first five minutes.

584
00:35:23,188 --> 00:35:25,395
Gascoigne!
Oh, and he's close.

585
00:35:26,157 --> 00:35:27,363
A bright start for England.

586
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:33,333
We were so... I didn't realise that we were
actually much the better side on that day.

587
00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:35,767
Stuart Pearce.

588
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:42,775
It's a challenge,
and that's a free kick to West Germany.

589
00:35:44,109 --> 00:35:45,383
England wall.

590
00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,047
And this is Blehme.

591
00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:52,724
Oh, and it was deflected,
and over Peter Shilton.

592
00:35:53,118 --> 00:35:54,756
Oh, unlucky.

593
00:35:55,787 --> 00:35:56,959
Parker.

594
00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:00,563
Lineker forward, but somewhat outnumbered.

595
00:36:00,625 --> 00:36:02,229
Oh, but he's stolen it!

596
00:36:02,727 --> 00:36:08,143
And it's one-one, and England's
players and fans alike go wild.

597
00:36:09,267 --> 00:36:10,940
Wonderful comeback.

598
00:36:11,469 --> 00:36:13,847
That smile says it all.

599
00:36:13,972 --> 00:36:15,610
What about that hug?

600
00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:19,611
And then, obviously, the famous...
The second yellow card.

601
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:24,116
Gascoigne,
shrugging off a challenge.

602
00:36:24,949 --> 00:36:29,455
And then losing it a bit and stretching
for it and that could be trouble!

603
00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:31,124
And, honestly, if I look at it,

604
00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,193
back at it, I honestly don't think
I even touched the guy.

605
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:38,003
He's took the ball and my foot, that's
actually supposed to have kicked him,

606
00:36:38,096 --> 00:36:39,598
was behind his heel.

607
00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:42,678
You know, I didn't seem to have made
any contact whatsoever.

608
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:46,709
And he's rolling all over
as if I'd, like, done him in badly.

609
00:36:47,672 --> 00:36:49,652
The scream might have pissed me off
more than anything.

610
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,517
'Cause he screamed like a baby
and he's like...

611
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:55,123
So I tried to put my fingers in his mouth
and try and shut him up, and...

612
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,090
But obviously he's carried on squealing.

613
00:36:58,016 --> 00:36:59,654
When I get kicked, I
take it as a compliment.

614
00:36:59,984 --> 00:37:02,089
That means they're worried
about us, you know.

615
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:05,594
I could never bring myself to
rolling all over, you know.

616
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:07,426
Especially where I'm from and that.

617
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:10,932
It's a yellow card
for Paul Gascoigne.

618
00:37:10,995 --> 00:37:14,738
He's already had one in this tournament,
and his face tells the story.

619
00:37:14,799 --> 00:37:19,407
He knows that if England get to the final,
he will not be a part of it.

620
00:37:21,206 --> 00:37:24,585
All I kept thinking about with the card
was if I get to the final, I'm missing it

621
00:37:24,642 --> 00:37:27,521
And I worked so hard to get to
where I was, you know,

622
00:37:27,612 --> 00:37:29,523
semi-final of the World Cup and...

623
00:37:31,216 --> 00:37:32,991
Then obviously the crying.

624
00:37:44,162 --> 00:37:46,199
After a couple of minutes,
I just thought to myself,

625
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:49,678
give me all in the last 20 minutes
and get the lads to the final.

626
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:51,145
You know, if you have
a look at that last 20 minutes

627
00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:53,409
I really worked my nuts off.

628
00:37:54,839 --> 00:37:58,048
It'll be England's
first-ever penalty shoot-out,

629
00:37:58,109 --> 00:37:59,918
and what a time for it to come.

630
00:38:00,245 --> 00:38:03,021
A place in the World Cup final at stake.

631
00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:06,390
At that stage, at the end of the game,
Gazza then goes,

632
00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:08,959
"That's my World Cup over.

633
00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:11,525
"That's, so' you know, that's it.

634
00:38:11,656 --> 00:38:14,728
"Whatever happens now,
I'm not going to be playing again."

635
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:21,171
When Sir Bobby
come up on the pitch,

636
00:38:21,232 --> 00:38:22,836
you know, he hugged us and he went,

637
00:38:22,934 --> 00:38:25,540
“Look at you, you've done me proud,
you've done your country proud,

638
00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:28,607
'you've done your family proud,
your club proud, your manager proud."

639
00:38:30,074 --> 00:38:32,987
And it was really nice of him to say that
you know, and come up to us.

640
00:38:33,111 --> 00:38:35,148
But I just didn't feel
right to take a penalty.

641
00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:40,862
Between him and Bobby Robson,
they decided that

642
00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:42,989
perhaps it was best that
he wouldn't take one.

643
00:38:44,055 --> 00:38:45,159
I wish he had.

644
00:38:49,227 --> 00:38:52,003
The overriding feeling that you get

645
00:38:52,096 --> 00:38:55,805
from scoring a penalty in a shootout
is one of relief.

646
00:38:55,867 --> 00:38:58,279
You know, "Well, it ain't
gonna be my fault."

647
00:38:58,403 --> 00:39:00,974
Which is a terrible thing
to say but, you know,

648
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:05,249
we're human beings and, you know,
the one thing you would never wanna do

649
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:08,951
is be the person that misses the penalty
that will be shown forever more.

650
00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:47,655
You know, you don't shed tears on
a football pitch if you don't care

651
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:49,923
about playing for your country.

652
00:39:51,789 --> 00:39:53,097
It was incredible, really.

653
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:57,206
If I'm sitting here now,
saying to my children

654
00:39:57,762 --> 00:39:59,503
or explaining about Paul Gascoigne,

655
00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:02,670
I'd say he's probably
the most exciting English player

656
00:40:02,767 --> 00:40:04,804
I've seen and certainly the best.

657
00:40:10,775 --> 00:40:12,118
There was loads of tears
in the dressing room.

658
00:40:12,210 --> 00:40:13,917
I've never seen anything like it, you know,

659
00:40:14,445 --> 00:40:18,052
and we're all sitting there in tears
and waiting for Sir Bobby.

660
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:23,464
And he went, "Look here, guys,
you've done me so proud.“

661
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:26,895
“You know, well go out and we'll have,
we'll enjoy ourselves tonight."

662
00:40:27,692 --> 00:40:30,639
Then he was welling up and everyone,

663
00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:33,374
when the players, I suppose,
when they seen him welling up,

664
00:40:33,464 --> 00:40:35,774
you know, everyone joined in with him.
I mean, it was...

665
00:40:37,335 --> 00:40:39,008
I would never have that feeling again.

666
00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:42,783
You know, I have had great
feelings in my career but that,

667
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,087
that certain moment where
it was that close.

668
00:40:45,176 --> 00:40:47,884
I mean, a penalty kick. Twelve yards
away from getting to the final.

669
00:40:56,788 --> 00:41:01,533
We're on the plane and when it come
to land, Gary Lineker come up to us.

670
00:41:01,826 --> 00:41:05,000
And he went, "Paul, be careful,"

671
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:09,940
And I didn't have a clue
what he was on about.

672
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:11,973
Be careful for what? You know.

673
00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:21,088
I think it lifted him from being
a great footballer

674
00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:24,718
to, almost, a national treasure,
a great personality.

675
00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:29,856
It was the moment that a nation cried
with an English footballer.

676
00:41:30,888 --> 00:41:34,233
We want Gazza'
We want Gazza. We wan! Gazza.

677
00:41:56,114 --> 00:41:59,527
I don't think I'll ever
witness anything like that again.

678
00:41:59,617 --> 00:42:02,154
You know, when you're getting
a crowd like that singing your name

679
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:06,360
and I've had it at Wembley, when
there's been 80,000, but 120,000..

680
00:42:19,404 --> 00:42:21,441
I remember Peter Beardsley
coming up to us on the bus

681
00:42:21,506 --> 00:42:25,113
and he went, "This is for you, you know'?
This is for you." And it was like, wow.

682
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:30,955
It's one of them things where you
just couldn't take it in, you know?

683
00:42:31,049 --> 00:42:33,222
One was just playing for England
in the World Cup.

684
00:42:33,484 --> 00:42:37,057
Er, but actually taking
it all in, it was hard.

685
00:42:41,292 --> 00:42:46,605
And when I got home, my dad had organized
a party back at the working men's club,

686
00:42:47,465 --> 00:42:50,344
and had a party in there.

687
00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:53,245
Which was brilliant, being back
in the hometown, you know.

688
00:42:53,304 --> 00:42:55,284
And I always remember...

689
00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:04,522
There's a...

690
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,527
There's a bit the next
day, after the party, I...

691
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,298
I went up to the...

692
00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:18,771
Local park and it was empty.

693
00:43:18,830 --> 00:43:22,607
And I just stood there myself and just
thought, "This is where I come from."

694
00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:51,330
Stood there for an hour, you know.
It was a touching feeling to say,

695
00:43:51,395 --> 00:43:55,571
"I come from this town
and I played in the World Cup."

696
00:43:57,935 --> 00:44:01,212
There I was, years ago, just a young kid
running about with a tennis ball

697
00:44:01,272 --> 00:44:03,081
and come back.

698
00:44:05,376 --> 00:44:08,255
Twenty-two heroes out there,
and I was one of them.

699
00:44:22,727 --> 00:44:25,708
The tears that flowed
on that summer night in Italy

700
00:44:25,763 --> 00:44:29,472
have swollen since then into a flood
of national adulation.

701
00:44:29,567 --> 00:44:33,982
Paul Gascoigne is Gazza.
Gazza is at the centre of Gazzamania.

702
00:44:34,038 --> 00:44:38,646
Fame and the trappings of fame, on and off
the football field, are his life now.

703
00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:48,988
Do any of youse girls wanna do it
in News of the World?

704
00:44:49,086 --> 00:44:52,124
You gotta come to bed with us.

705
00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:01,343
GASCOIGNE; It's one of them things
I don't think you could ever get used to,

706
00:45:01,399 --> 00:45:03,242
even to this day.

707
00:45:03,334 --> 00:45:07,646
Just everything was coming thick and fast
and even the money.

708
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:12,017
The holidays, and taking the family to
Disney World. Things I'd only dreamed of.

709
00:45:19,517 --> 00:45:23,397
But sometimes it was, like, 7:00 at night,
I'm sitting outside in the summer

710
00:45:23,487 --> 00:45:25,364
having a beer or whatever
and there are old ladies coming up

711
00:45:25,456 --> 00:45:27,697
and prodding us on the chest,
"What are you doing'?

712
00:45:27,758 --> 00:45:30,170
"Go home. It's 7:00 at
night, it's bedtime."

713
00:45:30,228 --> 00:45:34,472
Yeah, so I couldn't do anything.
I couldn't move anywhere.

714
00:45:44,508 --> 00:45:46,886
It was just becoming daft.
How could I handle it?

715
00:45:46,944 --> 00:45:49,857
I couldn't really handle it
l was living on my own in London.

716
00:45:53,451 --> 00:45:55,328
- Love you, Gazza!

717
00:45:55,386 --> 00:45:56,922
- Love you, Gazza!
- All right.

718
00:45:56,988 --> 00:45:58,592
- I'm sure!

719
00:45:58,689 --> 00:46:00,635
Look, I was gonna say to you.

720
00:46:00,725 --> 00:46:05,367
You're in a position that most young men
would say is a dream.

721
00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:09,374
Erm, but from my perspective,

722
00:46:09,433 --> 00:46:12,971
having experienced a tiny piece
of the kind of attention you're getting,

723
00:46:13,037 --> 00:46:15,278
it could turn out to be a nightmare,
you know?

724
00:46:15,373 --> 00:46:19,082
Could be' but I'm trying my best
not to let i1 turn out that way.

725
00:46:19,176 --> 00:46:22,282
The same newspapers
that are building you to the skies,

726
00:46:22,346 --> 00:46:25,725
and hyping you up
are also trying to give you advice.

727
00:46:25,816 --> 00:46:29,525
Say things, "Will this young man
be able to handle all that attention?"

728
00:46:29,587 --> 00:46:31,726
Yeah, they're building me right up.

729
00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:33,530
It's unbelievable
and I can't believe what's happening.

730
00:46:33,591 --> 00:46:35,730
Like I say, they're at the end of my road,

731
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,364
they're outside my house
with cameras, and everything.

732
00:46:38,429 --> 00:46:40,431
It's really... It's frightening, really,

733
00:46:40,531 --> 00:46:42,238
because all l wanna do
is just live my own life.

734
00:46:44,068 --> 00:46:47,242
It's when I found out how bad
the press can be.

735
00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:49,876
Once you're famous, people
think it's great. lt's not.

736
00:46:49,974 --> 00:46:52,181
There's only one way to go then
and it's down,

737
00:46:52,243 --> 00:46:54,154
and the press try their hardest
to put you down.

738
00:46:55,913 --> 00:46:59,759
They were writing anything. Just anything
they could, and most of it was lies.

739
00:47:01,252 --> 00:47:04,756
I started drinking,
which was the easy way out of it.

740
00:47:04,855 --> 00:47:07,734
It's just, you know, how can you...

741
00:47:07,792 --> 00:47:09,999
You know, it's just one of them...

742
00:47:10,094 --> 00:47:12,540
Well, how can you adjust to Thai?

743
00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:21,613
R <i>did a piece in the News</i> of <i>the World</i>
<i>saying it was okay for people with asthma</i>

744
00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:23,618
to do sports,

745
00:47:23,674 --> 00:47:25,847
and it was a big spread
in the News of the World,

746
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:27,890
as long as you used this asthma thing.

747
00:47:27,945 --> 00:47:31,688
My cousin, my dad's brother's son,

748
00:47:31,749 --> 00:47:33,888
he was only 12 or something like that.

749
00:47:33,951 --> 00:47:35,453
I remember him ringing us up and saying,

750
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,965
"Uncle Paul, this thing I've just read
in the News of the World.

751
00:47:38,055 --> 00:47:39,898
"I've got asthma,
is it okay if I go play football?"

752
00:47:39,957 --> 00:47:41,994
And I went, "Yeah, as long
as you use it properly.“

753
00:47:42,093 --> 00:47:44,733
And he went out and I got a call
20 minutes later, he died.

754
00:47:49,467 --> 00:47:50,878
That was really hard to take.

755
00:47:50,968 --> 00:47:53,881
And then I found out
he went and played football

756
00:47:53,971 --> 00:47:57,077
but he didn't take ms asthma thing.
It didn't make things any better.

757
00:47:57,174 --> 00:48:00,644
But I think if I hadn't have done
that piece in the News of the World

758
00:48:00,711 --> 00:48:03,521
and he hadn't seen it, maybe, I think,
he'd have been all right, you know?

759
00:48:04,815 --> 00:48:08,160
And then l was having
sleepless nights again.

760
00:48:09,186 --> 00:48:10,688
A couple of ticks come back.

761
00:48:11,989 --> 00:48:16,904
That's the only time I started realizing that
the 90 minutes on the football field was me.

762
00:48:16,961 --> 00:48:20,534
I was alone and in the zone,
and no one could touch us.

763
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,371
If I had problems, then I went on the pitch
for 90 minutes and they went.

764
00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:27,711
But after the game
finished, then they come.

765
00:48:29,607 --> 00:48:32,816
Never he left alone with your own thoughts.
That can be dangerous.

766
00:49:01,071 --> 00:49:03,711
The Spurs and England footballer
Paul Gascoigne

767
00:49:03,808 --> 00:49:07,813
is reported to be on the verge
of joining the Italian club Lazio.

768
00:49:07,878 --> 00:49:11,325
Talks are taking place in Rome
between representatives of the two clubs

769
00:49:11,415 --> 00:49:14,453
and if the deal goes through,
Gascoigne's expected to become

770
00:49:14,518 --> 00:49:16,327
the richest player in the world.

771
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:27,867
I always knew in the bottom of my heart
I always wanted to play in an FA Cup final.

772
00:49:27,965 --> 00:49:33,039
All I ever wanted to do
was walk up them stairs being a winner.

773
00:49:33,137 --> 00:49:35,515
Yeah, I really wanted to do that, you know?

774
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:43,625
We managed to
get through the FA Cup,

775
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:46,355
mainly because of Gazza,
to be perfectly honest.

776
00:49:47,251 --> 00:49:52,064
He almost single-handedly, sort of,
thrust us through to the semi-final.

777
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:09,511
I mean, there are various derbies
around the world.

778
00:50:09,607 --> 00:50:12,053
They're all hugely significant
and mean so much

779
00:50:12,109 --> 00:50:16,319
to the supporters of those clubs.
It's the game that really counts,

780
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:19,087
and in North London, it's no different

781
00:50:21,452 --> 00:50:24,490
Arsenal were unbelievably strong
at that stage.

782
00:50:24,555 --> 00:50:25,727
They were running away with the league,

783
00:50:25,789 --> 00:50:27,393
everyone thought they were
gonna do the double

784
00:50:27,491 --> 00:50:30,836
and we went into that game
as huge underdogs.

785
00:50:34,565 --> 00:50:37,273
<i>Paul Gascoigne,
out of the keys for Tottenham</i>

786
00:50:37,368 --> 00:50:39,211
and he's really up for it.

787
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,610
Back to Gascoigne.

788
00:50:45,609 --> 00:50:47,885
One way, and then the other.

789
00:50:49,513 --> 00:50:51,220
Neatly done.

790
00:50:53,884 --> 00:50:56,524
And a late challenge brings a free kick.

791
00:50:56,987 --> 00:50:59,331
When you're actually
lining up for a flee kick like that,

792
00:50:59,390 --> 00:51:01,927
I'm thinking what to do with it
when all of a sudden, Gary Lineker,

793
00:51:01,992 --> 00:51:04,563
he comes up and he just said, "Have a go."

794
00:51:05,696 --> 00:51:06,902
I went, "Okay," and he ran past.

795
00:51:08,832 --> 00:51:11,176
Is Gascoigne going
to have a crack? He is, you know.

796
00:51:11,268 --> 00:51:15,080
Oh, what a goal! Brilliant!

797
00:51:20,277 --> 00:51:24,282
The FA Cup springs mad, magical moments.

798
00:51:25,449 --> 00:51:27,019
I think that's what makes it so special.

799
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,065
To get it over the wall and into
the top comer from so far out is...

800
00:51:34,291 --> 00:51:35,895
It's nearly impossible, really.

801
00:51:39,029 --> 00:51:42,772
You've probably practiced that,
that week, 30' 40 times,

802
00:51:42,833 --> 00:51:45,074
and maybe score one
from the same situation.

803
00:51:45,169 --> 00:51:49,174
But it's when it happens in a game,
it's just pure excitement.

804
00:51:51,709 --> 00:51:55,122
It's an unbelievable goal
and still probably one of the best

805
00:51:55,212 --> 00:51:57,089
FA Cup goals to this day.

806
00:51:58,315 --> 00:52:00,226
It's Tottenham Hotspurs day,

807
00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:02,855
to the delight of Gary Mabbutt,

808
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,867
and what an inspiration
this man has been lo them

809
00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:07,960
with that wonderful free kick.

810
00:52:08,025 --> 00:52:09,766
They'll be back for the final.

811
00:52:11,895 --> 00:52:14,774
I'm now away to get my suit measured. Yes!

812
00:52:14,832 --> 00:52:16,334
What about
your start to the game?

813
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,472
Ah, it wasn't bad, was it?
I must go.

814
00:52:33,083 --> 00:52:37,759
I think all young lads from England
will dream about winning the FA Cup.

815
00:52:41,792 --> 00:52:45,797
It's something which I still dream of,
to be honest, I've never won the FA Cup

816
00:52:45,896 --> 00:52:48,001
and it's such a historic trophy.

817
00:52:59,910 --> 00:53:03,517
Really, it was my first final.
Missed, obviously, the World Cup final.

818
00:53:03,614 --> 00:53:06,857
In the times at Newcastle, I never got
to any final So, this was my first final.

819
00:53:08,252 --> 00:53:10,357
You try and take in as much as you can

820
00:53:10,454 --> 00:53:12,764
because you never know when
you'll play in another one.

821
00:53:14,591 --> 00:53:17,197
We all lining up and we're seeing
Lady Diana come on the pitch

822
00:53:17,294 --> 00:53:20,741
and she came up to us and I went,
"Can I have a kiss, please?“

823
00:53:20,864 --> 00:53:24,209
And she put her hand out, she got
a bit embarrassed, and I kissed her hand.

824
00:53:24,268 --> 00:53:26,270
And a couple of the lads were laughing.

825
00:53:29,206 --> 00:53:32,779
It was the first time I played a match
with a hard-on. It was unbelievable.

826
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:41,253
Forest,
attacking down the left.

827
00:53:41,685 --> 00:53:45,656
Gascoigne tries to turn...
Oh, that's an awful challenge.

828
00:53:46,757 --> 00:53:50,830
The tackle, I've come, I've went through
the ball and I've lifted my leg high.

829
00:53:53,397 --> 00:53:55,001
He didn't even book us, the ref,

830
00:53:55,632 --> 00:53:58,579
Really sometimes in hindsight
I wish I'd have been sent off for that.

831
00:54:05,509 --> 00:54:08,649
Forest coming forward
again, trying to find a bit of space.

832
00:54:08,746 --> 00:54:12,159
Gascoigne coming across...
Oh! That's a dreadful challenge!

833
00:54:13,851 --> 00:54:15,797
And he looks to be in agony.

834
00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:21,931
I'm off balance and I've just tried
to put a massive tackle in.

835
00:54:24,962 --> 00:54:29,274
Thai was it, knee just went
and I just went down and I knew I was out.

836
00:54:32,136 --> 00:54:35,208
' Terry Venables,
understandably concerned.

837
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:38,686
And Gascoigne is carried off.

838
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:40,846
His Cup final is over.

839
00:54:41,145 --> 00:54:44,820
John Sheridan come into the physio bit
at Wembley.

840
00:54:44,882 --> 00:54:47,226
He had tears in his eyes
and when you see somebody

841
00:54:47,284 --> 00:54:50,993
that cares for you so much and seeing
tears in his eyes, it was like, "Shit."

842
00:54:51,088 --> 00:54:54,626
"So how long am I going to be out for?
Three weeks?" He went, "No." l went, "Shit."

843
00:54:54,725 --> 00:54:57,934
l went, "Three months?" He went, "Nah."
I went, "Six months, then?"

844
00:54:57,995 --> 00:55:01,442
He went, "No, you're going to be
out a year." I burst down crying.

845
00:55:13,443 --> 00:55:16,287
To know that you've done
something really serious,

846
00:55:16,346 --> 00:55:19,691
to be in a hospital room
watching your team lift the FA Cup.

847
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:21,058
I...

848
00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:25,461
I can't begin to imagine the emotions
that were going through his head.

849
00:55:29,293 --> 00:55:33,503
That was it. Once I seen
Gary Mabbutt walk up the steps...

850
00:55:37,367 --> 00:55:40,439
Lifting up the trophy.
That destroyed us, that,

851
00:55:40,537 --> 00:55:42,676
because that's all I wanted to do.

852
00:55:43,841 --> 00:55:45,377
If I could have done that, it's just, like,

853
00:55:45,475 --> 00:55:47,614
l wouldn’t be bothered if
I played another match.

854
00:55:47,678 --> 00:55:51,922
I wouldn't have been bothered.
And to miss out on that...

855
00:55:52,015 --> 00:55:54,996
It was unbelievable.

856
00:55:55,085 --> 00:55:58,259
And I went, "Could I have a sleeping
tablet?“ So I'd go to sleep.

857
00:55:58,322 --> 00:56:01,098
And they went, "Just wait a bit,"
and I didn't know what was happening.

858
00:56:01,191 --> 00:56:04,365
Then, all of a sudden,
about two and a half hours after the game,

859
00:56:04,428 --> 00:56:08,069
the door smashed in.
It was Gary Mabbut with the FA Cup.

860
00:56:13,136 --> 00:56:16,413
The team come in. Some of the players
were with their wives and that.

861
00:56:16,473 --> 00:56:19,682
I was like, my eyes must have been
red as fuck, just crying.

862
00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:21,921
And...

863
00:56:22,012 --> 00:56:25,892
And then they went, “All right, Gaz,
we gotta go back to the party.“

864
00:56:25,949 --> 00:56:29,396
I was, like, to the surgeon, "Please just
plaster me up and let us go to the party."

865
00:56:29,486 --> 00:56:32,160
He went, "Paul,
it's either the party or your career."

866
00:56:37,961 --> 00:56:40,441
You think, "Am I going
to be the player! was?"

867
00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:44,535
And I just wanted to get
back playing again.

868
00:56:44,601 --> 00:56:48,708
I had to. I had a big move on.
Spurs were making money from us.

869
00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:52,651
I had an opportunity in playing abroad.

870
00:56:52,709 --> 00:56:55,121
And that's all I knew, football,

871
00:56:55,212 --> 00:57:00,161
I mean, two and two comes to five.
No, that was all I knew, football.

872
00:57:04,521 --> 00:57:08,128
When you're in a room' when you're
working on the machines and all that,

873
00:57:08,225 --> 00:57:11,399
and you're seeing the lads out in the field
kicking the ball about and having fun,

874
00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:15,739
it destroys you a little bit
and sometimes it felt a bit lonely.

875
00:57:15,799 --> 00:57:17,039
It wasn't too good.

876
00:57:21,238 --> 00:57:23,809
Just me and the physio, you know?
Constantly training.

877
00:57:23,974 --> 00:57:26,818
Because when you're injured, you have
to train twice as hard as other players

878
00:57:26,877 --> 00:57:28,322
to get back to match fitness.

879
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:42,761
It was on the Friday and
Terry Venables said,

880
00:57:42,826 --> 00:57:47,036
“Pam, you can join in with the team now,
on Monday.“ And I was so excited.

881
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,007
I went up to Newcastle to celebrate
with the family.

882
00:57:49,066 --> 00:57:50,977
I'm training on Monday with the team.

883
00:57:51,034 --> 00:57:55,278
We're in a nightclub when a guy
past us deliberately and nudged us.

884
00:57:55,372 --> 00:57:57,045
And he went' "Are you Paul Gascoigne?“
I went, "Yeah,"

885
00:57:57,107 --> 00:58:00,020
and he banged us right in the chin
and l fell on my kneecap.

886
00:58:02,045 --> 00:58:05,925
I went to the hospital and I said,
"There's something wrong with my knee."

887
00:58:06,016 --> 00:58:09,361
You know, when you press your kneecap?
I pressed my kneecap in, it wasn't there.

888
00:58:09,453 --> 00:58:10,693
I had no kneecap.

889
00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:18,701
I had to sit on the settee for three
months, just with my leg solid straight.

890
00:58:18,762 --> 00:58:24,041
If I had any chance of making it again.
So I had to wait another six months

891
00:58:35,645 --> 00:58:37,283
Gazza. Gazza, welcome.

892
00:58:40,550 --> 00:58:43,121
I've never seen anything like that.
It was crazy.

893
00:58:54,965 --> 00:58:57,775
Nineteen bodyguards, either side of us.
They couldn't stop them back

894
00:58:57,834 --> 00:59:01,247
and they were throwing scarves at you,
trying to squash you.

895
00:59:01,304 --> 00:59:03,113
It was really scary.

896
00:59:06,043 --> 00:59:10,617
They're obsessed with football, full stop.
Ll is one football country, that.

897
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,523
It's incredible.

898
00:59:12,616 --> 00:59:16,154
It was the highest paid
transfer made in Italy

899
00:59:16,253 --> 00:59:18,255
and they made a massive thing of it.

900
00:59:31,201 --> 00:59:34,614
Once you're idolized by the fans,
it's non-stop.

901
00:59:34,671 --> 00:59:38,380
Back in England you'd get maybe
20 or 30 watching training.

902
00:59:38,442 --> 00:59:41,446
In Italy, they surrounded the pitch.
Surrounded.

903
00:59:41,511 --> 00:59:44,253
You couldn't do anything about it.
And if you did,

904
00:59:44,314 --> 00:59:47,227
if the team played bad,
they would shake the fence. Go off it.

905
00:59:47,284 --> 00:59:50,163
They'd really go off it.
And some of the players I could see,

906
00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:53,132
they all had good wages
but they all had little banger cars.

907
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:55,500
And I'm like,
“Why you got little cars like that?"

908
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,971
Because I realised when you played bad,
you'd drive past them

909
00:59:58,028 --> 01:00:00,304
and they'd smash, and bang,
and kick your car and everything.

910
01:00:00,831 --> 01:00:02,868
Yeah' it's like that. It's intense,

911
01:00:23,186 --> 01:00:25,598
The players put the panics up us.
They're going, "Oh, shit, Paul,

912
01:00:25,689 --> 01:00:28,101
"if I lose this, I won't be able
to go out for weeks."

913
01:00:28,158 --> 01:00:29,535
That's what it was like.

914
01:00:29,593 --> 01:00:33,040
Come to the kick-off and it was like,
then I got nervous.

915
01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:36,441
It was the first time really, in a game,
when I got nervous. "G01 to win this game."

916
01:00:43,006 --> 01:00:46,283
And then, obviously, the game kicked off
and we're getting beat one-nil.

917
01:00:46,376 --> 01:00:49,152
Then we got, obviously, the free kick.

918
01:00:49,246 --> 01:00:51,317
And I went over to take the free kick
and Beppe Signori says,

919
01:00:51,448 --> 01:00:54,657
"No, you get in the box." I went, "No, I
don't score many goals with my head."

920
01:00:54,718 --> 01:00:57,665
I said, "You get in the box." And he went,
"Well, I'm only fucking five foot."

921
01:00:57,721 --> 01:00:59,792
So l was like, "Okay, I'll go in the box."

922
01:00:59,890 --> 01:01:02,302
And by the time I got in the box,
he was ready to take it.

923
01:01:14,671 --> 01:01:18,915
It was incredible. It was like, wow.
You think you just won the war.

924
01:01:20,277 --> 01:01:24,123
I could have lived on that goal for a
few years over there. It was brilliant.

925
01:01:24,214 --> 01:01:28,321
I scored the first goal in a Roma derby,
105,000 people there.

926
01:01:28,385 --> 01:01:32,265
It was a phenomenal feeling.
Really was, it was incredible.

927
01:01:33,256 --> 01:01:36,135
- Gazza!
- I love you. You are my God.

928
01:01:36,193 --> 01:01:37,729
- You are my God.
- Thank you.

929
01:01:37,794 --> 01:01:41,003
- You are my God'

930
01:01:41,064 --> 01:01:43,044
"You are my God."

931
01:01:46,803 --> 01:01:49,181
I played against Maradona once in Seville.

932
01:01:49,973 --> 01:01:53,443
And I turned up for the game. I went, "Diego.

933
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:55,956
I said, "I can't even really play,
but I'm a bit drunk."

934
01:01:56,046 --> 01:01:57,286
He went, "Gazza, so am I."

935
01:01:57,347 --> 01:01:59,691
It was funny as fuck.

936
01:01:59,749 --> 01:02:02,127
We started the game and I got the ball
and I'd beat five players

937
01:02:02,185 --> 01:02:03,596
and smashed it into the bottom corner.

938
01:02:12,162 --> 01:02:14,608
I always remember afterwards, I went,
"Do the press conference, please,

939
01:02:14,664 --> 01:02:17,167
"I'm in trouble."
And he went down, "So am L."

940
01:02:17,234 --> 01:02:20,044
And I think we both got fined
about 40,000 each.

941
01:02:28,111 --> 01:02:32,082
In Italy' we trained twice a day.
It was phenomenal. Sc hot.

942
01:02:32,148 --> 01:02:34,958
Their warm-up was like
our training session in England.

943
01:02:35,051 --> 01:02:38,260
For instance, if you get beat one-nil,

944
01:02:38,321 --> 01:02:42,497
the president would come in and say,
"It was crap today.

945
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,540
"I'm sorry, but you won't be
going home tonight after the game.

946
01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:48,132
“You'll be getting straight on the bus
and shooting off for three days.“

947
01:02:48,231 --> 01:02:50,837
And he'd take you and he'd have
a training camp and run you.

948
01:02:52,435 --> 01:02:54,608
We played this little five-a-side game

949
01:02:54,671 --> 01:02:57,481
and I let the guy go past us and he scored.

950
01:02:57,574 --> 01:02:59,713
And Dino Zoff went mad on
a couple of players and I went, "Hold on.

951
01:02:59,809 --> 01:03:02,756
"Are we playing serious here?"
I said, "You want to play serious?"

952
01:03:02,846 --> 01:03:04,223
I went, "Okay, then

953
01:03:04,281 --> 01:03:07,023
And Nesta, he was a young kid
and the ball come

954
01:03:07,083 --> 01:03:10,064
and I went for a crunching tackle
and I missed and I hit his calf.

955
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:14,125
My leg was on the ground and when
he picked up my calf to have a look at it,

956
01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:17,171
the calf and my foot and my ankle
stayed on the ground

957
01:03:17,227 --> 01:03:19,002
and my calf came forward about an inch.

958
01:03:21,931 --> 01:03:24,844
<i>The worst thing is,
they didn't have any stretcher.</i>

959
01:03:24,934 --> 01:03:27,073
So they had to get four guys carrying us.

960
01:03:27,170 --> 01:03:29,480
So when one was walking forwards,
the other one was waiting,

961
01:03:29,572 --> 01:03:31,574
so my leg just felt like it was pulling.

962
01:03:33,643 --> 01:03:34,713
I was out for a year.

963
01:03:37,814 --> 01:03:40,852
I don't think there's any question
that the injuries that Gazza sustained

964
01:03:40,917 --> 01:03:45,297
impacted his life both on the pitch
and off the pitch.

965
01:03:45,355 --> 01:03:49,098
And the more time you spend injured,
the more time there is to get

966
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:53,301
depressed about matters
and perhaps to turn to drink or drugs

967
01:03:53,363 --> 01:03:56,674
or whatever it is that does it for you
in those circumstances.

968
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,402
Especially his personality,

969
01:03:59,469 --> 01:04:02,382
with his affection for the game
and his love of playing,

970
01:04:02,439 --> 01:04:05,215
I think it had a real
negative effect on him.

971
01:04:07,811 --> 01:04:10,451
So I missed about
two years, really, in playing out there,

972
01:04:10,513 --> 01:04:13,858
so I never got the chance to really,
before I moved on to Rangers,

973
01:04:13,917 --> 01:04:16,989
lo really show the fans
what I really could do, you know?

974
01:04:40,377 --> 01:04:43,756
There's only one Paul Gascoigne.

975
01:04:43,847 --> 01:04:48,728
One Paul Gascoigne.
There's only one Paul Gascoigne.

976
01:04:49,753 --> 01:04:53,530
That time at Rangers was phenomenal.
Really, really unbelievable.

977
01:05:17,113 --> 01:05:20,060
Because I had the press saying,
"Ah, he won't do it up here.

978
01:05:20,116 --> 01:05:23,996
"He won't achieve anything up here.
He wouldn't this and that."

979
01:05:35,965 --> 01:05:38,741
Unfortunately for the press,
we won the league, won the cup,

980
01:05:38,802 --> 01:05:41,646
won the other cup.
So I didn't do too bad that year.

981
01:05:56,186 --> 01:05:58,132
- The Celtics crap...
- Rangers are the best.

982
01:05:58,188 --> 01:06:00,896
Rangers are the crappiest.

983
01:06:01,324 --> 01:06:05,602
It's more hatred up there, its horrific. You
got the Protestants against the Catholics.

984
01:06:05,695 --> 01:06:07,732
I've never witnessed anything like that.

985
01:06:08,231 --> 01:06:13,738
The first match we had was, like,
a friendly against Steaua Bucharest

986
01:06:13,803 --> 01:06:17,012
and I just remember the fans singing,
doing The <i>Sash,</i>

987
01:06:17,106 --> 01:06:19,086
and one of the players said to us,

988
01:06:19,175 --> 01:06:22,088
"Oh, this is The Sash,
this what it sort of means."

989
01:06:22,145 --> 01:06:23,351
I didn't really take any notice

990
01:06:23,446 --> 01:06:26,086
and I just remember scoring
and I just thought it was a thing to the...

991
01:06:27,016 --> 01:06:28,859
The fans.

992
01:06:34,657 --> 01:06:36,694
And then the next day
when I pick up the paper,

993
01:06:36,759 --> 01:06:41,401
and the front page, "Gazza does The Sash,"
and then when I read what it was all about,

994
01:06:41,464 --> 01:06:42,807
it was like, "Oh, my God."

995
01:06:45,602 --> 01:06:48,276
The Protestants are allowed
to walk down this Catholic mad

996
01:06:48,371 --> 01:06:50,510
and it's been going on for years
and there always seems to be

997
01:06:50,607 --> 01:06:52,609
people killed every year doing it.

998
01:06:53,176 --> 01:06:55,850
And there's always riots
and bombs and everything

999
01:06:55,912 --> 01:06:58,290
and I never really took
any notice of anything.

1000
01:07:03,553 --> 01:07:06,693
And then I was just opening the mail
and I looked at it and it went,

1001
01:07:06,756 --> 01:07:10,898
"Hi, my name's such and such,
I'm from the IRA

1002
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,201
"and I'm gonna kill you." Yeah.

1003
01:07:16,366 --> 01:07:20,178
It had his name, his address,
his Two mobile numbers.

1004
01:07:20,236 --> 01:07:22,182
And l went, "Well, this guy is serious."

1005
01:07:22,238 --> 01:07:26,380
So I showed Walter Smith and he went,
"Oof, better get the police."

1006
01:07:27,644 --> 01:07:29,817
So two police come, undercover,

1007
01:07:29,879 --> 01:07:32,257
and they went, “Give us a look at that.
We'll go and see him for you. “

1008
01:07:32,315 --> 01:07:34,556
And they flew over.
S0 I'm waiting for their return.

1009
01:07:34,651 --> 01:07:37,359
I'm shitting a brick I'm going,
“Fucking hell, what am I gonna do?"

1010
01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:41,626
I waited three days
and then they come to my house.

1011
01:07:41,724 --> 01:07:45,365
And they went, "Right, we've seen the guy.
He is serious. He is gonna kill you."

1012
01:07:45,428 --> 01:07:47,999
Fucking hell. So I went, "What
are you gonna do about it?"

1013
01:07:48,064 --> 01:07:51,671
He went, “Well, we can't do anything
until he actually flies over

1014
01:07:51,768 --> 01:07:54,214
"and we're not gonna sit and wait
at the airport, Paul,

1015
01:07:54,270 --> 01:07:57,217
"because it might take months.“
So I'm like, "Oof."

1016
01:07:57,273 --> 01:08:00,584
And he went, "Here's a thing."
And it was like a little round thing,

1017
01:08:00,643 --> 01:08:03,021
about that big and I went, "Well,
what's that?" He says, “Open."

1018
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,753
Pulled it like that, and he went,
“That's to look under your car for bombs."

1019
01:08:05,848 --> 01:08:08,658
So I'm like, "Shit, “ and then he went,
"Can you ring up your family

1020
01:08:08,885 --> 01:08:10,694
"and tell them all to board the house up."

1021
01:08:11,454 --> 01:08:13,195
Fucking board the windows up and all,

1022
01:08:13,289 --> 01:08:15,360
in case they shoot through
the windows and all that.

1023
01:08:19,395 --> 01:08:22,205
For the first four or
five games, I panicked.

1024
01:08:22,365 --> 01:08:24,367
You just wonder if someone's in the crowd.

1025
01:08:25,668 --> 01:08:28,979
You know, he can be anywhere.
He doesn't have to be on a football pitch.

1026
01:08:29,038 --> 01:08:31,075
He can be hanging outside your house.

1027
01:08:33,309 --> 01:08:35,414
It lasted for six months.

1028
01:08:36,212 --> 01:08:38,624
And then eventually
I got the letter from this guy

1029
01:08:38,681 --> 01:08:40,854
and he went, "Right,

1030
01:08:40,917 --> 01:08:45,764
"you haven't done it for a while. If you
honestly do that again, I will kill you."

1031
01:08:45,855 --> 01:08:47,664
And then it was okay.
Now I could relax.

1032
01:09:02,805 --> 01:09:06,048
England are assured
of a really tough draw already.

1033
01:09:06,109 --> 01:09:08,885
Now, would this be England
in with Scotland?

1034
01:09:09,112 --> 01:09:11,854
It is. England against Scotland.

1035
01:09:13,149 --> 01:09:15,186
Scotland is not an international team.

1036
01:09:15,284 --> 01:09:18,697
Scotland. It's a mix of sheep shaggers.

1037
01:09:18,755 --> 01:09:21,759
Scotland have got a better
international record.

1038
01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:23,804
We've qualified for five World Cups.

1039
01:09:23,926 --> 01:09:27,635
All right? That's what we've done.
And what have you done?

1040
01:09:27,764 --> 01:09:30,176
You've only played five...
You've only played five games.

1041
01:09:36,172 --> 01:09:39,813
- No! Not my pants.

1042
01:09:39,876 --> 01:09:43,255
The flak I took off of players three months
prior to the tournament was horrendous.

1043
01:09:43,312 --> 01:09:45,758
"We're gonna whop you one.
Stick it right up you."

1044
01:09:45,848 --> 01:09:48,522
I was getting that every single day.
And I'm saying, "Oh, we'll see."

1045
01:09:48,584 --> 01:09:51,690
Then I says, "You've gotta remember
I know how seven of youse play."

1046
01:10:01,097 --> 01:10:03,577
We had a little bit of a break,
the season finished with a break

1047
01:10:03,633 --> 01:10:05,135
before the championships.

1048
01:10:05,201 --> 01:10:07,203
We went to Hong Kong.

1049
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:09,876
It was just like... I think
ii was like bonding.

1050
01:10:09,972 --> 01:10:14,216
We did a little bit of training.
It was a bit relaxing for a few days.

1051
01:10:14,277 --> 01:10:17,121
There was my birthday as well,
so it was like, okay.

1052
01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:19,750
And then Terry Venables says,
"Look, you go out for the night.

1053
01:10:21,017 --> 01:10:24,590
"Make sure you're back before 12:00."
And then we went out.

1054
01:10:31,928 --> 01:10:34,772
We went to this club.
It was like a theme bar thing.

1055
01:10:35,465 --> 01:10:39,003
And just looked over to see
what everyone was doing.

1056
01:10:39,135 --> 01:10:40,580
And it was like a dentist chair thing.

1057
01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:43,877
And you sat on it and then the guy
come behind you, a couple of guys,

1058
01:10:43,973 --> 01:10:46,886
and he pressed the pedal and it went back.

1059
01:10:46,976 --> 01:10:51,322
And obviously, if you open your mouth,
they pour cocktails down it.

1060
01:10:52,682 --> 01:10:55,856
I give it a go. I didn't
get any fillings done.

1061
01:10:55,918 --> 01:10:59,388
But I got a few cocktails down my neck
and then Sol went,

1062
01:10:59,489 --> 01:11:01,594
and Teddy Sheringham went,
Steve McManaman, everyone.

1063
01:11:01,691 --> 01:11:03,762
There were about six who
had a go, you know.

1064
01:11:03,826 --> 01:11:07,000
The press got a hold of it. Someone had took
a photo on their mobile phone,

1065
01:11:07,296 --> 01:11:09,003
and then obviously sold the photo.

1066
01:11:09,832 --> 01:11:12,836
That was unbelievable what the press wrote,
for one night out.

1067
01:11:12,935 --> 01:11:14,744
And I get hammered for it.

1068
01:11:15,404 --> 01:11:17,179
The headlines was like,
"Kick him out of the tournament,"

1069
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,516
you know, "He's not right. Not ready."

1070
01:11:19,609 --> 01:11:23,682
Well, I just had a full season winning
medals and trophies at Glasgow Rangers.

1071
01:11:23,746 --> 01:11:26,886
All I had to do was just wait
till I start playing football again.

1072
01:11:27,250 --> 01:11:29,594
Back on the football pitch.
Where I felt safe.

1073
01:11:38,127 --> 01:11:43,736
Was in the Euro. At Wembley.
England against Scotland.

1074
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:53,913
And I took my wife to the game.
Which, normally, we don't do often.

1075
01:11:54,010 --> 01:11:56,684
My wife was pregnant of our first child

1076
01:11:56,746 --> 01:11:59,920
and she was pregnant
of something like six months.

1077
01:12:00,650 --> 01:12:03,130
And, um, and.“

1078
01:12:04,554 --> 01:12:07,296
She was so upset with me because...

1079
01:12:07,356 --> 01:12:10,997
Because I made her walk so much

1080
01:12:11,093 --> 01:12:12,766
to get into Wembley.

1081
01:12:15,131 --> 01:12:18,806
But I think I couldn't have a...

1082
01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,975
A better game of football.

1083
01:12:32,949 --> 01:12:34,951
And Paul, in that match, was magnificent,

1084
01:12:35,318 --> 01:12:38,856
and he scored one of the goals
that belongs to...

1085
01:12:38,921 --> 01:12:42,368
To his fantastic history.

1086
01:12:46,028 --> 01:12:48,668
Forward to Paul Gascoigne,
who made a brilliant run.

1087
01:12:48,764 --> 01:12:50,641
And that's superb!

1088
01:12:50,733 --> 01:12:52,212
Oh, what a goal!

1089
01:12:53,970 --> 01:12:57,918
I still think to this day it's the most
iconic England goal of all time.

1090
01:13:02,411 --> 01:13:06,655
I think his vision, his creativity,
the composure, the skill.

1091
01:13:12,588 --> 01:13:15,228
Finishing it the way he did and then
the celebration as well,

1092
01:13:15,324 --> 01:13:19,033
I think it's all rolled
into a fantastic goal.

1093
01:13:22,999 --> 01:13:27,141
Before the game, I said to the guys,
I went, "Listen, whoever scores,

1094
01:13:27,203 --> 01:13:29,877
"get on your back and pretend
you're doing the dentist chair.

1095
01:13:29,972 --> 01:13:32,612
"Someone get the Lucozade bottles
and squeeze it in you."

1096
01:13:32,675 --> 01:13:35,656
You know, just to wind up the press,
have a go back at them and that.

1097
01:13:39,615 --> 01:13:42,687
It was ironic that I scored it.
So it was perfect.

1098
01:13:56,933 --> 01:14:00,847
I think it was a case of Paul
just pmving them wrong, which was a doddle.

1099
01:14:05,007 --> 01:14:07,510
It was just unfortunate
that it was Lucozade and not gin.

1100
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:10,454
Because I would have played better then.

1101
01:14:49,051 --> 01:14:51,998
Who said to me that I never
had a laugh when I was drinking?

1102
01:14:53,589 --> 01:14:56,399
I've had great times when I've been
drinking with the guys.

1103
01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:59,029
Having a game of dominos and pool
and stuff like that.

1104
01:14:59,128 --> 01:15:02,200
It was when sometimes I sit alone
and I have a drink,

1105
01:15:02,264 --> 01:15:04,870
and then, that was when
I can be dark and depressing.

1106
01:15:08,637 --> 01:15:13,017
I just had bad little blips
where I'm not Paul any more.

1107
01:15:13,075 --> 01:15:16,079
I'm not Gazza. I'm not Paul Gascoigne.
I'm just, like...

1108
01:15:16,145 --> 01:15:18,056
I'm just alone.

1109
01:15:19,915 --> 01:15:21,553
Which I sometimes don't like.

1110
01:15:25,955 --> 01:15:28,492
I have been close to death twice,
I mus! admit.

1111
01:15:29,225 --> 01:15:33,765
But I managed to pull through
and it's an illness I have and...

1112
01:15:33,829 --> 01:15:35,638
I've probably got it for
the rest of my life.

1113
01:15:38,234 --> 01:15:40,771
It's whether I accept it or not.

1114
01:15:40,836 --> 01:15:44,511
Sometimes I find it hard
and sometimes I find it really easy.

1115
01:15:44,607 --> 01:15:46,780
I know how to stay sober
and I know how to relapse.

1116
01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:49,280
I'm good at both, really.

1117
01:15:58,187 --> 01:16:00,997
Good evening.
The News of the World phone hacking scandal

1118
01:16:01,090 --> 01:16:04,333
started as one bad apple,
a rogue journalist or maybe two,

1119
01:16:04,393 --> 01:16:07,966
who'd taken their supposed
investigations a little too far.

1120
01:16:09,131 --> 01:16:10,940
Today, the dam broke.

1121
01:16:14,370 --> 01:16:19,115
A few years ago and something
happened with my phone a lot.

1122
01:16:20,209 --> 01:16:22,849
I remember calling my dad up
and we'll get cut off.

1123
01:16:22,912 --> 01:16:24,949
And my dad says
there's something wrong with his phone.

1124
01:16:25,047 --> 01:16:27,653
"Well, there's something up," and I
said, "I wonder if I'm getting tapped."

1125
01:16:32,488 --> 01:16:35,298
Then I remember speaking to my mum once,
and it come out in the papers.

1126
01:16:35,357 --> 01:16:36,927
And so I went to my mum saying,

1127
01:16:36,992 --> 01:16:39,097
"What the fuck are you doing?
Why are you speaking to the papers?

1128
01:16:39,161 --> 01:16:42,335
"Mum, you're the only one I've told,
I've not talked to anybody."

1129
01:16:42,398 --> 01:16:45,140
And she got upset and she went,
"I haven't.” I says, "You have."

1130
01:16:45,201 --> 01:16:49,047
I says, "Mum you are the only I've just said
it to.” I didn't speak to her for a week.

1131
01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:53,851
And then I spoke to my dad
and then that come out in the papers.

1132
01:16:53,909 --> 01:16:56,321
So I went off...
Well, I didn't go off with my dad.

1133
01:16:56,412 --> 01:16:57,823
I just never went off on him.

1134
01:16:58,013 --> 01:17:01,426
I just went, "Dad, have you spoke to the
papers? Are you selling a story on us?"

1135
01:17:02,051 --> 01:17:04,759
And it was embarrassing for me to do that
and then I started drinking.

1136
01:17:04,854 --> 01:17:08,700
Drinking too much.
And then, I started getting paranoid.

1137
01:17:11,427 --> 01:17:13,634
I didn't speak to my
family for a few months.

1138
01:17:14,530 --> 01:17:17,636
I didn't speak to anybody.
I just started drinking.

1139
01:17:19,034 --> 01:17:21,446
And that's the time when I took coke,

1140
01:17:21,537 --> 01:17:24,381
and this was about 11 years ago
and I was doing that.

1141
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,582
And then I went to the spy shop
and I bought gadgets.

1142
01:17:27,676 --> 01:17:28,916
A lot of money's worth.

1143
01:17:29,011 --> 01:17:31,617
So I kept on ringing my family
and then I started speaking to the family

1144
01:17:31,714 --> 01:17:33,159
and I says, "My phone is getting hacked."

1145
01:17:33,249 --> 01:17:34,751
"Someones listening to
my conversations,"

1146
01:17:34,850 --> 01:17:37,660
and my family Went, “There's something
wrong with you. You're paranoid."

1147
01:17:41,056 --> 01:17:43,161
What I started doing was texting myself.

1148
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,970
So I'd text myself and say,
"Listen, you C-U-N-T.

1149
01:17:49,064 --> 01:17:51,271
"I know what you're doing, you bastard.

1150
01:17:51,367 --> 01:17:53,074
"I'm gonna get the police on you."

1151
01:17:53,169 --> 01:17:55,615
And then all of a sudden
I'd make a call and it'd be free.

1152
01:17:55,671 --> 01:17:58,709
And then a couple of weeks later
it would start again.

1153
01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:02,717
I stayed indoors. Went to a hotel.
Got out of the house because

1154
01:18:02,811 --> 01:18:04,882
I thought my house phone
was getting hacked. I went into a hotel.

1155
01:18:06,615 --> 01:18:10,062
I started drinking in the hotel
for five weeks or six weeks.

1156
01:18:11,153 --> 01:18:14,498
My family come to me then. They seen
the way I was, the state I was in.

1157
01:18:14,557 --> 01:18:16,798
They wouldn't come. They were saying,
"You drink too much"

1158
01:18:16,926 --> 01:18:19,429
And the family weren't answering
the fucking door to us.

1159
01:18:19,528 --> 01:18:22,372
They were shutting the curtains,
in case I turned up.

1160
01:18:26,569 --> 01:18:30,574
Then I got sectioned, my sister sectioned
us. "Hes crazy. The guy's went crazy."

1161
01:18:39,615 --> 01:18:42,528
And, to be fair, I think she saved my life.

1162
01:18:43,919 --> 01:18:47,594
And then I rang Scotland Yard police.
I went, "This is my number.

1163
01:18:47,690 --> 01:18:51,399
"Listen to every phone call I make
for the next six month."

1164
01:18:51,493 --> 01:18:53,097
And then bang, got 'em.

1165
01:18:53,162 --> 01:18:56,769
You know, to get found that I was right,
it was a great feeling.

1166
01:18:56,832 --> 01:18:58,607
You know, it was unbelievable

1167
01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:02,843
I don't think I deserved to go through
that. And nobody does. Nobody.

1168
01:19:02,905 --> 01:19:06,375
I mean, look at the damage it did
to Princess Diana. Where is she now?

1169
01:19:06,442 --> 01:19:09,616
I didn't want the damages.
I didn't want a payment from them.

1170
01:19:09,678 --> 01:19:15,128
I just wanted to go to court and tell the
judge exactly how much they've damaged me.

1171
01:19:32,868 --> 01:19:38,181
There's no question that Gazza is one of
the most-loved people in our country.

1172
01:19:39,642 --> 01:19:42,350
Yes, he's made his mistakes,
but who doesn't?

1173
01:19:46,649 --> 01:19:49,186
I think what made him so special

1174
01:19:49,285 --> 01:19:52,198
was the lack of fear in his game.

1175
01:19:53,389 --> 01:19:56,802
That he would try anything,
he would never be scared

1176
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,837
that something would go wrong.

1177
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,070
And probably more than anything else,
the love of showing off

1178
01:20:08,170 --> 01:20:11,447
the abilities that he had
and I think that's what lifts him apart.

1179
01:20:15,511 --> 01:20:17,821
In terms of overall, all-round player,

1180
01:20:17,913 --> 01:20:22,020
then I think none of them
can compare to Paul Gascoigne.

1181
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:28,099
I trained with him a few times
when I was young and playing for Everton

1182
01:20:28,157 --> 01:20:30,330
and that was a great honour for me.

1183
01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:34,933
You could see the talent was incredible,

1184
01:20:34,997 --> 01:20:37,068
and it was great to watch up close

1185
01:20:37,166 --> 01:20:40,773
and try and learn from the greatest player
that England have had.

1186
01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:48,788
There was the one time at the...
He come in the dressing room

1187
01:20:48,844 --> 01:20:51,324
when we were in there, the youth team,

1188
01:20:51,413 --> 01:20:56,192
and he asked if any of the players
were going out later on that night.

1189
01:20:56,285 --> 01:21:00,097
So I was the only one who said I was.

1190
01:21:00,155 --> 01:21:03,796
So he gave me £40 to go out.

1191
01:21:06,128 --> 01:21:08,540
Again, it shows his character. What he is.

1192
01:21:08,597 --> 01:21:12,477
And I don't think there's any other player
in the Everton dressing room at the time

1193
01:21:12,568 --> 01:21:16,573
who would've come in and even
spoke to us as a group of young players.

1194
01:21:18,841 --> 01:21:20,821
I'll have to give him that £40 back.

1195
01:21:30,919 --> 01:21:34,560
He was what he was as a player.
He is what he is as a man.

1196
01:21:35,758 --> 01:21:37,499
200 miles per hour,

1197
01:21:38,694 --> 01:21:42,107
and when you go so fast, it's dangerous.

1198
01:21:42,431 --> 01:21:45,412
Obviously, his career could be even better

1199
01:21:45,467 --> 01:21:47,879
if he was supported in a different way.

1200
01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:50,450
The clubs, they are much more ready

1201
01:21:50,506 --> 01:21:53,487
to support players and to bring
players in the right direction.

1202
01:21:53,609 --> 01:21:57,853
But, in the end of the day,
I like always to think

1203
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,357
that he enjoyed

1204
01:22:02,117 --> 01:22:04,927
every moment of his career.

1205
01:22:04,987 --> 01:22:08,400
So, I don't know,
if it was better to be even a better player

1206
01:22:08,490 --> 01:22:12,336
but don't enjoy so much
or to be what he was as a player

1207
01:22:12,394 --> 01:22:16,399
but enjoy career as much as you do.

1208
01:22:23,272 --> 01:22:25,411
I loved the buzz of going out
and hearing the roar

1209
01:22:25,474 --> 01:22:27,579
and they're singing your name, you know?

1210
01:22:27,643 --> 01:22:29,520
Give them a goal in the top comer

1211
01:22:30,112 --> 01:22:33,559
and you get the lads jumping around you,
and they're buzzing and shaking your hand

1212
01:22:33,682 --> 01:22:37,755
and It's just one big fairy tale
which eventually comes to an end.

1213
01:22:45,994 --> 01:22:49,441
Me and my life, I would
probably like to be remembered

1214
01:22:50,265 --> 01:22:54,941
for being the Paul Gascoigne
that people have met throughout my life.

1215
01:22:55,003 --> 01:22:57,643
I'd like to think the people around us,
I'd made them proud,

1216
01:22:57,706 --> 01:23:01,813
made myself proud, and everybody else
that was involved with my life, proud.

1217
01:23:01,877 --> 01:23:03,686
My mum and dad, especially.

1218
01:23:06,615 --> 01:23:07,616
Yes.

1219
01:23:13,288 --> 01:23:16,428
- Thank you.
- Cheers.

1219
01:23:17,305 --> 01:23:23,292
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